Astral Projection, Aliens, UFOs and Christ Consciousness | Cal Melkez | TruthSeekah Podcast
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what's up bro welcome to the podcast man
how are you hey I'm doing good how's it
going guys happy to be here uh lots of
weird going on with this podcast and I
like lot of weird people involved with
this podcast man yeah man
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bro perfect this ain't what I thought it
was man I didn't know y'all was going to
be talking about this I know y was this
crazy man yeah man um so we we're going
to talk about this stuff and we'll talk
about you know I just made the little
joke the astral projection Spirit travel
thing which is this is an interesting
like thing in the Christian mystical uh
movement which is a growing movement and
I'm I'm kind of kind of in that movement
I guess to some extent um so we'll talk
about that but first introduce yourself
let people know who you are what you
bring to the table your YouTube channel
all that good stuff let them let them
know who you are man what's start there
sweet uh so basically uh like you said
my name is C MZ I have had a lot of
experience with spirituality and the
fact that I had to do a lot of it myself
and I just had to uh basically just put
my nose in the book and just figure
things out uh I started my spiritual
walk with Christianity and I I do hold a
lot of Christian values and beliefs and
actually it's helped me to uh kind of
learn and grow in my spiritual walk as
far as healing as far as the prophetic
and uh visions and seeing entities and
and uh spirit travel if you will so nice
yeah and my YouTube channel is camel kez
I talk about opening chakras third eye
connecting to God and the Divine Healing
your inner self and things like that
that's what's up yeah that's something
that we have in common man you know
starting in uh the church like you know
I don't I guess I've left the church I
haven't left Christ you know what I'm
saying like that's the big that's the
only thing that keeps me connected the
majority of Christianity not all of it
there's some cool mystical stuff right
it depends on what church you go to
there's some deep truths of of of people
who know who they are and their identity
of of of being a child of God to being
loved of God like that goes a long way
you know and that's something that we
need to impart to people you know what
I'm saying no matter what stream we're
involved in so there's a lot of good
that they're doing but a lot of the
crazy negative stuff the bad stuff the
the witchcraft that's in it as far as
like the manipulation and manipulating
people and lessons and control and stuff
like that I totally reject a lot of that
stuff and and we're not alone it's a
growing movement it's a growing number
of people my you know my video that I
just put out um uh what does the Bible
say about the third eye that video's
like blown up as far as like my reach is
concerned cuz people are hungry for this
stuff like they're looking for because
like they they know deep down that in
their DNA that listen this stuff is is
in the scriptures I just need to point
it out I know that when I hear this
stuff or watch a documentary it
resonates to my core but the pastor says
yeah stay away from that stuff there is
an Awakening happening man you know what
I'm saying globally and my my thing is
like to let Christians know who are
waking up to these deeper truths The
ancestral call and so much that's going
on just not to like abandon your
relationship with Christ that kind of
thing yeah and there's this constant
idea that it's or the other like uh
Christ is he was a mystical person uh
everywhere I look he just the things he
did and the way he thought and
interacted with the environment is just
he's just a supernatural person and he's
not calling us to live in a church I
mean that's that's actually exactly what
he was against was this dogmatic you
know routine No Love No Connection um
and it's actually pretty sad it's why
I've like you said I've moved away from
the church as well still love Christ
still love God it's just the people in
the church the the regiment and the
structure and it's just you tend not to
be able to get out of that box and
experience you know you tell someone in
the church you know I actually rejected
yesterday they're like oh my God Satan
like get out of here you know you know
the spirit travel and the they're just
closed-minded lots of close-minded
people you just got possessed by a demon
congratulations cut that stuff out man
yeah but um again like that's the thing
too again you know the spirit travel
thing um I changed the name of one of my
meditations for the Christian people you
know what I'm saying because like I I
have a I have a astral projection astral
travel um meditation that just allows
you to start from the root chakra move
your awareness to light each chakra up
spin them get to the top of the the
crown and move out like it's beautiful
I've actually done that one it's we call
it I know we call it Spirit travel
astral travel the church don't want
nothing to do with it but the Christian
mystical movement if I just changed the
title yeah that's it they love Spirit
travel yeah it's so weird cuz and and
and there's people teaching let's talk
about this do there people say there's a
difference between astral travel and
spirit travel big noted noted uh like
Christian ministers or even mystical
ministers they said there's a difference
they're like and this is what they say
like the as the astral travel you you
get stuck in the astral realm with the
demons and the disembodied spirits but
Spirit travel you go directly to heaven
and Christians are the only ones who can
go directly to heaven and I'm like
script says spirit and bride say come
like you know like if you will like you
you have access there no you know
because of Christ not because of your
who you know what what anything you've
done that gives you permission to go to
heaven like that's crazy what would you
say to that the astral travel Spirit
travel that kind of thing oh it I
haven't personally dealt with anyone
who's been like kind of prom that idea I
don't really understand uh the dichotomy
they're trying to build
up but my my thing when it comes to that
is uh astral projection as far as I look
at it because I like to have like a
scientific approach to it you're
projecting your Consciousness and and
you're you're moving your Consciousness
into a different realm of reality you
can call it the astral realm Spirit
realm whatever you want there are
different levels to it of course but um
like for instance it comes to right now
where uh I think it was Paul who said
that he left his body and went to the
second or third heaven and he wasn't
sure which one but he knew he had left
the body he was like whether I'm in the
body or out of the body I knew I was I
was going to that place so it happens it
definitely happens and I'm just happy
we've moved from a place of oh that
doesn't happen at all like no spiritual
things whatsoever to some things are
happening like some people are
teleporting it's in the Bible some
people are as projecting like third eye
like you said is in the
uh but if you're as projecting man
you're I mean you're doing it it's not
something separate intention maybe but
let's talk a little bit about that cuz I
think I think I've let some people down
when I talk cuz I talk about astral
travel um astral projection a lot um but
it's different for me um I think
people think cuz when I describe it I do
talk about traveling like as being like
cognitive like leaving my body you know
what I'm saying but for me I don't think
I've I've never like looked at my body
meditating or sleeping and been able to
you know travel around like that and I
think that a lot of people believe
believe that that's what it is um for me
the the scripture says to be absent from
the body is to be present with the Lord
that's deep um and so when when I when I
go in like a lot of lot of slippery
stuff lot of weird stuff going on and
I'm not consciously like flying around
my house I have to admit that but when I
go in it's really I can't explain to you
exactly where I'm at what I'm like who
it is but I'm receiving messages I feel
like I'm communing with my higher self
there's a lot of slippery info um with
it but um I'm being led by the Holy
Spirit right this this light that that
kind of pulls me into this this uh
deeper Trans State and um but as far as
like being cognitive of looking at my
body and stuff I've never done that is
that what you mean by astral projection
is it leaving your body and being able
to travel your city and stuff like that
there so from my experience there are
several types of projection in that
you're projecting to different places so
I'll give I'll give them that like we
were just talking about you know it's a
spirit realm astral realm sort of thing
but where it gets kind of lost is what
you're describing being able to look at
your body fly around the neighborhood
that's what some people uh in the
community call A a real time projection
you're projecting into this current 3D
reality like there's a filter between it
you know and you're projecting right
around that filter so you can kind of
see what's going on what you're
describing is you're projecting right up
there like you're you're you're
bypassing all of the middle ground
you're going straight to the spirit
realm if you want to say that uh you're
going straight to the throne room I saw
that meditation you had as well um you
know where you want to go lots of people
that astr project they get stuck in this
area just floating around like I don't
know what to do you know so yeah you
just know interesting especially like
somebody telling you you're not allowed
to go there so like consciously that
would that would hinder you because I
mean because everything's dealing with
Consciousness and your belief and your
faith and what what what you can believe
you can receive so if you're if you're
told that you can't go there and you
have to be in the middle ground or
whatever that's an interesting notion
that why people haven't experienced
those deep levels but people have though
like people who aren't
or people who have no grid for a lot of
this stuff and so um it's it's beautiful
like it's uh I I love it you know it's
different different levels different
Realms of it you know being Guided by
the Holy Spirit to just be on that
Journey like you know that like me for
so when I go in I'm just like all right
Lord whatever you want to show me I'm
ready for it like I'm open for it all
I'm open for like like the Elohim the
Angels ancestors like whatever it is I'm
open if it's just me and you like I you
I want to hang out with you Holy Spirit
you know that kind of thing but but
going in with that allows I feel like me
to open up to be approached by the other
beings and and not be scared you know
and not be have this type of prejudice
or racism or or whatever that kind of
thing is that we have towards entities
that look strange or something you know
and they they do look
strange scary yeah I think a lot of
people like you said they get stuck in
that middle that sort of buffer zone if
you want call it that uh just because
especially uh Christian brothers and
sisters they get stuck in that middle
Zone because they're told it's bad yeah
so when they do project they're just
stuck there yeah and they'll often times
manifest these negative entities and
these negative experiences because they
think it's a bad thing yep and it's you
know it it holds a lot of people back
I've noticed yeah and uh like you said
just going into the experience and
saying like Okay this is like this is
open to you God whatever you want to do
holy Spirit just take me there I'm open
that's the way to do it that's the like
a lot of people say hey I can't
reproduce this experience like I I've
been trying over and over again to see
this Angel and you know contact you know
so and so and just like you got to cut
that out because you're limiting what
God wants to do like you're taking away
from the focus you know yeah yeah you've
already got it in your head you know
where you're going what you're doing
your your stuff like that like there's a
there's another like even with that it's
huge I'm not really into it they you
know they have this courtroom
legislation and like they go into the
spirit and like do battles and kill
demons and some people try to convert
demons over to Christ in the spirit
world a lot of crazy crazy weird weird
stuff imagination like activated for me
there's a difference there there's a
difference with like going into the the
dream world and seeing yourself doing
that versus like really doing it um yeah
strange yeah when it comes to AST
projection people there's something
floating around called bilocation these
days where it's it's basically like an
enhanced imagination you're imagining
these things I've been in lots of groups
before where I see people talking like
yeah you know I'm fighting this thing
right now a dragon that approached me
and I wrote this back to the yeah I'm
like what did you actually though like
because when I have experiences I don't
know about other people but they're
pretty engulfing like I'm actually out
of body in a different sort of Dimension
like all sort of crazy stuff man all
sort of crazy stuff there a lot of um
you know a lot of people talk about like
tapping into the acostic when you're
doing it like you know what I'm saying
this this this record that of of of
everything really right of all
information and um whether it's your
higher self is what like your communion
with your higher self you know the
scripture says that we're seated with
Christ in Heavenly places like there's a
version of us out I mean this is
definitely you know what what the Greeks
believed you know that um um that we're
almost like these avatars if you will
that are being watched or controlled by
our higher self and we and I feel like
we have access to go back to ourselves
or back to Christ or or whatever it is
that we're we're accessing um sounds a
lot like the uh The Book of Life uh that
the Bible talks about you know you that
there's this book that has all the
records of everything that you've you've
done and just everything and very
similar to the akashic records that
people are able to access you know yeah
every written history everything that's
going to happen yeah definitely Lamb's
Book of Life for sure MH uhhuh yeah I
never thought about it like that yeah
the mindblowing has started already I'm
I'm I'm Marrying the to man I'm taking
it back Christian mysticism you have to
man you have to I like that term too
Christian mysticism I'm gonna have to
Christian Mystic I like it because I I
mean you know I say a lot of times like
my uh like pretty much all my mystical
experiences are to go deeper and deeper
into the heart of Christ man which is
the Heart of Love Like Love I don't want
nothing I don't want to go deeper into
the heart of of hatred maybe that's what
I get to do on the earth like as a human
right but uh you know so when I with my
spirituality I'm going into love I need
that love you know and that we're always
connected so for me um going in love is
like hey meet your guardian angel hey
meet your ancestor right cuz for me you
know going in through the Holy Spirit
again with that prayer at the beginning
it's like come whatever made that that
elimin all the fear you're not going to
get possessed you're not going to get
parasites whatever you know crazy stuff
by astral traveling because you didn't
cover yourself you're Pro protected by
the white light of the Holy Spirit he
got you he's he's not going to let any
harm come now thy dwelling that's just
how it works that's every everything I
tell people when it comes to meditation
or any sort of practice whether you're
trying to manifest something you're
praying I always say to start with
protection it's like you know uh this is
a and holy spot this is this is a sacred
Place only beings with my highest good
in mind can come to this place and you
know you just mentioned like being
seated in higher places with Christ I've
been mulling over this idea in my head
the past several days of Jesus being a a
symbol as well for the heart chakra uh
and I don't know how people sit with
this but the heart chakra is the it's
the gateway to the higher chakras most
people live in the lower chakras you
know they live in the root the naval and
the solar plexes there I travel through
them all I'm gonna be 100% honest I'm in
all of and people get stuck man they
they get stuck and you know they get
stuck in Anger competition lust and
greed they get stuck in these places
sexual desires yeah exactly and it
prevents you from getting up to the
higher chakras and then out into a more
mystical experience and Christ was the
Gateway he was the bridge between two
worlds he said no man come unto the
father but through me and you can't
reach the higher chakras you can't reach
infinite intelligence and divine
communication until you go through the
heart chakra so it's just another way
that Jesus is like symbolic of all
things is very encompassing yeah he he
was the example of of how to live from
the heart you know and so being able to
live from the heart allows you free
access to go you know to speak your
truth to uh to have an illuminated mind
and and creativity and then to access
the higher Realms and and to be okay
versus being stuck or living in in any
other other Realms we've been doing a
lot of beautiful meditations of with the
heart and with Christ and allowing to
take his light and bring it into our
hearts to to go deeper into his heart
like these different meditations have
been really beautiful um hence the
Sacred Heart of Christ right the the
Catholic symbol that you see it's when
every time you see Jesus tou the heart
yeah he's the heart is on fire he's
burning with a passion his heart is
illuminated and uh and there's literally
a fire inside of you and uh and his his
fire was illuminated so that's the whole
thing there's a lot of stuff that you
know how to how to do that you know and
for me all of that comes through
scripturally walking in the spirit if
you walk in the spirit you will not
fulfill the lust of the flesh heart down
walking in the spirit access to the the
the higher realms for sure take care of
everything yeah you got to have that
discernment like uh you know you set
your mark and and that's one of the
things I like about when it comes to the
meditations and things you're not
getting pulled astray or blown and
tossed or anything like that because you
have your eye on the goal it's like all
right holy spirit take me here like holy
spirit do what you want to do like you
relinquish control to him and you
surrender the experience I mean that's
really
yeah but but it it opens you up to so
much some people would say it's so
limited because we want to get beyond
that we've heard that you know they do
that in some Churches you know so want
to go beyond that we want to connect
with the octans the pans like I'm for
that
but go through love go through the Holy
Spirit that's the vehicle the scripture
tells you straight up that that your
that love fuels your faith in order for
your faith to take you to these higher
levels love has to be the gasoline that
you put in the vehicle so if you're
going through love on the behalf of love
as an ambassador of love all things are
possible to them that believe um so that
that doesn't limit you it opens you up
to everything it's so man I've had so
many mystical and beautiful experiences
the only fear is anytime that I try to
do it outside of that you know outside
of Love or outside of of being called or
I'm in this territory and I'm not
supposed to be here you know that's a
thing too and and and that should be a
fear right make sure that you're you're
you're right where you're supposed to be
you know and so um if you're if you're
walking in the spirit you're definitely
right where you're supposed to be you're
in the what we call the perfect will of
God versus the permissible will of God
you know I see that's very good yeah for
you 's let's talk about your your church
upbringing a little bit man because you
you had some mystical experiences in
church I listened to um one of your your
videos on your YouTube channel again
everybody go subscribe to his channel
CAL c a l m l k EZ Cal melcast on
YouTube um but you you talk about
meeting this Mentor um which changed
your life you got to see like the almost
like the Bible or mysticism in action in
a person and I have a very similar story
so if you don't mind man share share a
little bit about that story how you met
this dude and what like you know he set
your heart on fire man for what was
possible and for the you know the
mysteries of God and stuff like that so
with the Christian mysticism um I became
a Christian from a Buddhist background
so I was meditating all the time and you
know I was trying to discover you know
the truth I was trying to figure out how
to enter those spiritual Realms I was
trying to really you know get my footing
in the door and I was running into
issues I was running into negative
entities because I didn't know anything
about protection um I didn't have that
you know Holy Spirit you know the Light
of Christ be here you know uh angels to
protect me the you know Legions whatever
I didn't know any of that so I would go
into these experiences and I would see
demonic entities or I would see negative
beings and they would attack me in my
dreams and I was like okay I need to
figure out what's going on here and
Jesus was the next thing that came to
mind uh and so I started to dive into
the Bible and and do research um and the
first thing I noticed was that there
were these people in the book of Acts
that had these amazing abilities they
were in tune with God and they were
making effective change in the world and
I was like all right Jesus you know
let's get me to a church that does that
like I want to meet people that do that
I want to learn that and I got to a
church that was reformed I love reformed
people I love them but they're they're
not as in touch with that mysticism that
uh you know that power of the holy
spirit so much and so I I ran around in
this church for a little while not
really getting the nourishment I wanted
and eventually uh you know I said God I
need a mentor I need somebody who will
teach me these things and lo and behold
from a Pentecostal Church actually uh
this guy comes to the to my church and
he's like yeah you know I just came here
because God wanted me to to meet someone
in particular and fortunately it was me
so you know um but yeah he he met me and
the first time we met he prayed for me
to get rid of all the demonic spirits
and to cleanse things and and one of the
first crazy things was that he was
pointing on these spiritual topics and
these issues in my life that I hadn't
told anyone and I was a teenager at the
time so when I say I didn't tell anyone
I didn't tell anyone um and so I was
having these issues with like uh uh
demonic possession like things in my
house you know I was suicid and he was
touching on those things and he was like
Lord help him with this Lord help with
that and when the prayer was over I was
like yo does does God talk to you when
you pray is that is that a thing and he
was like you know what in a church like
this I like to keep that on the DL and
uh from there I was like you're going to
be my best friend like we're we're
linking up for sure um from there uh the
preceding night I had three consecutive
dreams about him in three different days
and they were all about him teaching me
something so
imagine how crazy of a story it is to go
back to this guy the next day like hey
uh you know I've been dreaming about
you you know no nonsense but I just have
I've had these dreams about you man like
you're teaching me something you know
you're supposed to Mentor me and uh he's
like perfect I was waiting for God to
confirm that uh you were the person I
was supposed to Mentor so let's let's do
this thing and thus
started like the Anakin and Obi-Wan
story where you know the Padawan and
he's the Jedi Knight Jedi Master sort of
thing and uh crazy crazy dude super
spiritual super mystical uh and he could
read minds man like uh he in the Bible I
believe it's called the perception of
thoughts uh Jesus perceived the
Pharisees thoughts I remember it was the
first time I saw it in scripture and uh
there were many times where I was
thinking very self-loathing thoughts
about myself in his presence and he
would stop everything he was doing and
he'd be like hey you got to stop that
just out of the blue was like oh oh my
God you know just like he he would stop
me and you know correct my thinking and
things like that so he opened me up to
the real mystical you know crazy weird
angels and projection and all that weird
stuff that's what's up and so you he
started teaching you some of this stuff
and and working with you oneon-one
absolutely and and the main thing that
he was teaching me was connecting to the
Holy Spirit and uh and and reaching the
heart of Christ it was get alone get in
your your quiet place I think we had
this same teacher dude what's his
name I would be amazed his name was
Dominic I'd be I'd be amazed I know
right that' be so crazy if it was the
blue man I know Dominic yeah I'd hit him
up be like what's what's this you know
yeah but a lot of it was just getting in
your quiet place yeah and reaching out
to God and saying hey I want an
experience with you I want to go deeper
into the heart of Christ like lead me
there and a lot of crazy stuff now do
you do you still um do you still do that
is that still your go-to like as far as
like intimacy or getting alone with God
and making sure you're doing your
devotions and just like drawing away so
that you know you're you're being taught
by the Holy Spirit through whatever
means I see taught by the Holy Spirit
you may see send an angel to speak on
his behalf like that's what God did
throughout the entire Bible an angel
shows up the Lord says this a person
shows up a donkey shows up the Lord says
this a demon shows up the Lord said this
like literally you need a message yeah
yeah so is that still big in your life
the quiet time to being drawn away
because it's huge for me for sure
absolutely that's like I I set aside
time every day for that maybe multiple
times a day cuz I need it like I need
that that refreshment that nourishment
because when I go out into the world
I have a lot of serendipitous
synchronous sort of encounters with
people and I'm usually pouring out on
them or I'll usually uh I'll get a
prophetic word for them like uh you know
the Lord's going to be doing this for
you and I see you doing this and you
know your ministry is opening up you
know I'll meet people and I pour out on
them and when you're pouring out love on
people you have to be refilled yourself
you need that time to yourself um and
that that's my go-to I get alone I like
to light candles because I'm a I'm a
wizard I just like to be weird uh I
light candles just to you know I light
an incent just to kind of condition my
mind like this is sacred time you know
this is my time uh yeah and I go deep
man that's what's up um the dudes who
who led me to the Lord um there was one
guy uh led me to the Lord he told me uh
asked me to come to a prayer meet and
they told me a prophet was going to be
there didn't know what didn't know what
a prophet was he said it was a Christian
psychic so I was like okay let's do it
so ended up going to this prayer meeting
and I gave my life to the Lord and got
filled with the Holy Spirit just upon
asking him to forgive me man it was
insane but that was in
1998 and um so yeah they uh they didn't
play man so I was I was mentored by the
guy who led me to the Lord and then the
guy I was living with which was my uh my
mom's boyfriend's son who was in Bible
College he was older but he was like a
big brother dude but they would teach me
man and we'd always go to prayer
meetings and churches and we' we'd find
pockets of people people praying like we
had our own prayer group like every
Wednesday like we we tried to go as much
as we could just these little home
groups that would we'd see people get
filled with the Holy Spirit and people's
lives be changed and it was addictive it
was beautiful it's just found that we
had this uh connection to this euphoric
Bliss Without End you know what I'm
saying and so like we want to tap into
it as much as we C could and get other
people in it too and we'd find out on
the other side of town at these other
churches there's these other group of
people who were on fire and they're
doing the same thing and then we'd go
hang out with them at a prayer meeting
and like oh wow it's just all these
hippie hippies what a lot of hippie
Christians for sure people with
dreadlocks and I remember they were
making hemp necklaces cross necklaces
hey man the lord loves you man you know
just really cool stuff and so I was a
part of that movement and one thing that
allowed them that I noticed that I took
away that allowed him to pray with power
like the dude who led me to the Lord
when he put his hand on you to pray
stuff happened like he was able to read
he knew he knew how to play Pray very
similar to the guy you're talking about
and one thing that I noticed is that
they unequivocally like would draw away
and they would they say hey I got to go
and they would go for two hours 3 hours
it wasn't no 10-minute devotion like
they would turn their lights on off
light candles put on worship music and
just lay in their room on their floor
and they get in scripture and they just
commune with the Lord and when they came
out of that that room you could feel it
and so when they went to prayer meetings
or they went to church services or we
traveled or we're shooting basketball
and somebody sprains their ankle and it
swells up hey they pray and it would go
down like these dudes were walking in
this level of sensitivity and anointing
that came
from how often and how much they drew
away to cultivate that fire and passion
with God and uh and I I try to practice
that as much like as much as I can and
know that it is a call to the secret
place and see how Jesus did it you know
and beckoned his disciples to do it and
U and that's where mystical experience
happens man for your own and then what
starts in your in your prayer time your
closet by yourself right God answers it
in your daytoday through the
synchronicities through like everything
that you got going on like God continues
it it's not all there and it's it's over
it starts there
and then as you go into the day you're
seeing Billboards you're seeing people
who are you know God lighting these
people up and sending them in your life
and opening doors that you have no idea
and uh that's the the the whole mystical
beautiful thing about it and but yeah
seeing those people who drew away man
you know what I'm saying and that's what
I definitely took away from from those
experiences with those guys and I
continue to do it myself it's a big part
of it I get drained I there's times
where I won't you know and I'll try to
do it my on my own and I get good at it
or whatever but I always get burnt out
and I have to come back and hit hit my
face and just lay there on the floor
with you know worship music or
meditation music and just doing my own
devotional to to release to ground and
to get back even more connected or
whatever let God pour on you because
you're pouring out on people all the
time exactly you know I think there's
something really important about the
fact that we never got to see Jesus's
alone time
you know I feel like if we saw it if the
Bible gave a depiction of okay he went
up on the mountain and this is exactly
what he did uh we get the Garden of
Gethsemane and how he like prays there
but we don't get like his worship time
we don't get his like connection with
the Lord when he's up on the
mountaintops I feel like if we did
everything we would do would be
segmented it would be perfectly lined up
it has to be this for five minutes then
it has to be this for 10 minutes and
then we you know we would never actually
get the point and I feel like the point
is like do what you have to do because
he's looking for real worshippers who
Worship in spirit and in truth like he's
looking for people who actually are
trying to reach him and trying to
connect to him um and I I think I think
we do get a camera one really awesome
awesome time somebody follows him with
the camera like when he went to pray uh
was it Peter Peter James and John was it
um the Mount of transfiguration yeah
yeah and what happened what happened
when when they went in it's okay we're
going to we're going to follow what
happened he was meeting with you know we
you know the the saints that came before
him he's meeting with his teachers in
the
spirit re not you know what I'm saying
uh reincarnated but um it's like an
ancestral teaching I mean this comes
from the East you you mentioned Star
Wars I remember knowing that in the
Bible and when the Lord connected it in
my mind was watching Star Wars was at
the end of one of them whenever OB um
was it um Qui-Gon Jin died and he at the
very end Obi-Wan is walking with Yoda
off into the sunset he's like come with
me I got some things I want to show you
I want to teach you how to commune with
your uh teacher he said oh he said
Qui-Gon and I was like boom and right
when he said that cuz I'm watching this
movie the whole time and the Lord's like
I'm Jesus is Qui-Gon Qui-Gon Jen and I'm
and and you're Obi-Wan like literally as
I'm watching it the Lord's talking to me
and at the very end he dies he's like
I'm going to teach you how to commune
with them and it's like boom clicks the
Revelation and then how Jesus was
meeting with them through meditation and
prayer his clothes changed and he turned
white and they got to see him they heard
voices like he's communing with being
taught from Beyond the Grave this is
normal in eastern mysticism all the
other Eastern and uh even the Native
American traditions all believe that
their ancestors and their teachers
continued to teach them from behind the
grave absolutely yeah that's that uh
ascended Master uh sort of belief system
yeah where you can communicate with
these uh these people who have gone on
you know yeah yeah that's even in
Christianity that's the thing is not
that far outside of the scriptures you
know it it clearly happens like the
amount of transfiguration is just one of
The Crazy Ones because you know they see
Jesus and like oh my gosh you know they
they see the you know the glory that he
has and it you know they kind of
they're afraid of it uh it says jesus'
Ministry was just I don't know it's just
just really really cool stuff to think
about one of my favorite verses is uh
John 14:12 where Jesus says uh if you
believe in me you'll do the things I am
doing and greater and you know I take
that verse to certain people at certain
churches I'm like he said this though
and they're like nah n that's not that's
not what that meant that's that's
something else and it's like Jesus
wanted us to be like him that was the
whole Point like he he wanted us to be
like children of God he wanted us to
have that connection and that's the
prayer he says in John 17 where he's
like you know I want them to be one as
we are one and uh that's that's the
whole thing like we're we're supposed to
reconnect to God he's the bridge yeah so
I think that's the only Ministry we got
like all of this far out esoteric stuff
is to let you know how close you are
with the Creator on every level and and
and it goes deeper and deeper and deeper
into your Consciousness into your
thoughts into your breath into
everything man and so that's the
mystical experience and so that's that's
the object of my faith and um it's it's
you know it's a GameChanger and so Paul
talks about having the ministry of
reconciliation right like and and I love
the Forgiveness of Christ and I I talk
just been on my mind because I go back
and forth of like whether I'm really
preaching really strong or focusing on
on other things that are a little bit
Outsider or mystical but um the you know
the message of Christ and the message of
the cross for me um is the most mystical
experience is the most it rocks me to my
core every time I hear it if it's put in
the right P perspective in the right
person it shakes me to my bones and it
did years ago and it continues to do it
like when I hear about the love of God
and how much he loves me and how what he
did to to purchase me and to to make our
relationship straight and to you know
what I'm saying to call me as a son and
as I'm loved and man that message
continues to rock me to my core and um
and I've never there there are no
mystical no esoteric like teachings that
that that I have that relationship with
I think they're more on a um an
intellectual uh level but it it kind of
goes down it cuts to the spirit too but
for some reason that message man it
always always rocks me so that's not to
say that you know that we don't look
into the other messages or we don't look
into cuz you you'll find people who say
we just we're only going to preach Jesus
you know what I'm saying Paul said whato
was me if I preached not the gospel like
I need to let you know that you're
reconciled like God loves you like you
have access to his heart like you don't
have to do
anything and and I run with some
Christians like well you got to you have
to do something you have to repent
knowing how much you're loved is the
only way that the only thing that allows
you to turn from whatever is killing you
that's what repentance is turn from the
things that are killing you whatever you
know um manner of of of love you have
allows you to do that if you can repent
without the love and forgiveness of God
then you don't need it you don't need
the gospel you're good you know but just
knowing that what that does to my soul
man continues every day to this day I'll
hear a great representation and I'll
weep and it'll it'll to my core man I
love I love I love it so as far as
mystical we're talking about talking to
aliens we're talking about eating magic
mushrooms we're talking about doing
shamanic stuff and rape we're talking
about all kinds of stuff but the message
of that cross dude still is my
Foundation that cuts me to the core it
has to be the foundation dude like uh
like Paul said it's uh it's like if I
preach not the gospel you know it's like
I it has to be you have to start from
that because you have to be transformed
by the renewing of your mind you know
like you have to know like there is no
in wall like you know the curtain was
torn like there is open unfettered
access to the kingdom you know I feel it
now remember I said I feel it preach it
man come on I feel it now you know and
that's the main thing is a lot of people
and I say this on my channel a lot is a
lot of people feel like they don't have
that connection and they have to find
answers here and there but like I I tell
people all the time is like you have
that connection uh you know accept that
help accept that uh assistance and and
make that connection go out and and uh
basically just let it happen at the end
of the day uh it's already done and when
you have this idea that you know there's
some additional work that you have to do
to make it happen you're moving yourself
right back into righteousness and then
you're becoming that you know that
self-righteousness and it doesn't work
yeah takes a long time for us to really
grasp that I mean we've heard it
preached and you know um that you know
Faith would you know uh uh you know
Salvation is a free gift and it were
justified by faith and jusi just because
you believe it like if you don't believe
it then it's not real for you you know
and so um there's just these different
different parameters and and stuff that
people put on it but we made it harder
and harder harder but it takes a lot of
referencing and standing at different um
points or you know what I'm saying
standpoints of looking at the same thing
and say okay what if I do this will he
still love me yeah well if I did do this
and some you have to do those things you
have to like you know turn your back or
feel less than and then you find out
that that love has never left you and
then he's he's straight when he says you
know when scripture says that I would
never leave you nor forsake you never no
matter what you do well I did this I
don't give a damn I'm G help you through
it that's the only thing he doesn't make
everything better but he makes it to
where you don't have to go through it by
yourself to know that God and the angels
and all cre
are with you and they're rooting for you
and you can access that and just knowing
that and your you know that that that
whole level of Consciousness man changes
everything brother you know one of the
main things that and I I totally agree
with that point uh one of the main
things that really confused me uh when I
was early on in my Christian walk was uh
the fact that you'd pray for some people
and they would get healed and then they
would lose their healing and and that
was something because I like I felt like
I had the the gift of healing and I'd go
out and I'd pray for people I was an
evangelist for sure um and and there'd
be some people that come back like yeah
you know my back's hurting again or yeah
you know this problem is resurfaced and
the reason for that is I feel like I
feel like the reason for that it kind of
correlates with what you just said was
that like becoming a Christian or or
following that path and and seeking
Christ it doesn't make everything better
instantly because you're still in that
environment and you still need to be
renewed in your thinking and most of the
time that we're sick or we're having
these issues is because mentally we're
in this place where we think we deserve
those things like we give Satan uh more
room than he's supposed to have because
we believe he has that space we believe
he's more powerful for sure for sure uh
you know he he's seeking who he may
devour sort of thing and you live in a
certain place where constantly you
believe you deserve this and this is
supposed to happen to you even if I sin
then I deserve this because I'm I sined
or I'm a sinner then I'm I have to be I
mean there's so many things we're going
to be that's what my program is designed
to do to help people work through that
stuff you know what you deserve because
you know but then the whole Satan thing
like I'm with it like for there to be
like you know positive you have to have
a negative for there to be light you
have to have a dark because you don't
know how beautiful that Marvelous Light
is until you've been into the depths of
other Darkness but all is God here oh
Israel the Lord is one God is in it all
guess who Satan answers to Guess Who the
demons answer to and and guess who they
can't touch you unless somebody gives
them permission the creator of this
whole existence the author and finisher
of your life you know what I'm saying
and so once you know that these beings
answer to some something and then you
know your that you answer to to him as
well and you have free access to him
like it changes things up so All Is God
When you see the demons when you see the
darkness all is God man um and they
exist they they have a a job you know
like they have a job to do they're
created beings and like people trying to
like try like again some of the the
people in my circles they'll try to you
know get the demons saved they're try to
get the demons to become Angels or to
like restore them to their Glory because
they're Fallen Ang like weird stuff you
know and
um he got a job to do man like that even
has a job and it's the job is like if
you s like you open yourself up to
things right like if you're if you're
lying to people if you're stealing there
are certain spirits who you know once
you steal they do get they get access to
you but the moment that that you repent
the moment that your mind is renewed in
an instant could be like you get better
at this because you might go six months
with this you know demon buffeting you
just sitting here punching you in your
ribs for 6 months uh he's trying to tell
you rep repent and the little guy go
away he's trying to just show you like
you know what you've opened yourself up
to they they exist for a reason I mean
there's some that even don't though
let's put it that way like you can't
just pray and rebuke every every entity
or every person or every situation and
it goes away because you'll never learn
like in order for you to go through a
season and for a situation listen angels
are loosed and things are shifted to
bring you and guide you through those uh
situations absolutely abolutely yeah
yeah that that makes me think of the
story of Saul and how uh the Lord sent a
you know an evil spirit to him to to
torment him and David play his Lear you
know yeah and Paul with the thorn in his
side yeah yeah it's like the same story
dude it really is and they have the same
name like Paul's name was Saul that's so
like you know what I'm saying the
correlation there absolutely of of it
goes back to you said it again Satan
sent out a demon no it said the Lord
sent it right and then so there's this
weird there's this weird um you know
notion in in a majority of Christianity
dualism is that some would even say
agnostic tradition they say that that
was a different God in the old test like
I've heard that you know so they have to
make up that because they can't see God
all loving allowing a demon access to
your body or whatever but the thing is
you allowed it I'm saying you oh yeah
yeah and that was the whole thing uh
yeah cuz Saul was he was just doing
awful things well he was Pride his pride
and his arrogance I mean the same thing
with Paul because Paul his pride and his
arrogance and how you know beloved he
was and how better than other people he
was getting prideful and the scripture
says Pride cometh before a fall guess
what a fall is in order for you to fall
it's usually a spirit an entity a demon
has to trip you up to make you fall so
this because of his pride and arrogance
to Humble him it was sent a a you know a
messenger of Satan is what it says but
they they serve a purpose they are the
accuser of the bre the Brethren they're
here they have a job to do the thing you
need to understand is that God and Satan
are not at War and that's all you got to
understand once you understand God and
the demons and those who oppose him
there is none that can stand to him
Satan doesn't think that he's going to
overthrow God this is weird battle and
that's crazy people think they're going
to overthrow God you know it's not Satan
but once you understand that I think it
helps you to move from the victim
mentality too so I mean you've already
won like that's the the message is like
we've won we're just reclaiming
territory from the enemy at this point
uh you're reclaiming your life your
neighborhood the the people around you
uh with that message of you know it's
already been taken care of like it's
it's already over with you're already uh
saved now uh like that that way is made
for you you know um and it's just a it's
an interesting concept yeah you know and
it
does there is a tendency for people to
think or I guess it was a different God
or you know there is something strange
going on why God would send a like an
evil spirit it's a and so you know uh
the way I look at that is uh you know
there there has to be like you said that
yin and yang but there has to be you
have to be able to see that that element
like there there are cups of Wrath that
are held up you know there you know
there are vessels of Wrath and vessels
of love the Bible talks about all that
so you have to be fine with creation
coming from nothing the the absence the
substance the things that are underneath
you know you have to be to be ready to
to take that and I feel like that's a
like a bigger meal almost because you're
fed on milk when you're just starting
out but the bigger thing is God has his
hand in everything he's pervading you
know yeah it's you know it's part of
that dualism I'll tell you this when you
were speaking about healing a while ago
and people not getting healed and coming
back one of the things that that really
helped me early on and I say mysticism
but just my my my walk was like getting
into the Testament of Solomon because
when it talks about uh when when Jesus
is casting out demons and the Pharisees
come and say hey he only cast out demons
is because you know he's doing it by the
name of the prince of demons be elub
he's inting with be abub it's like hold
on who is be abub and Church they tell
you beab is Satan beab is the prince of
demons he's a prince over demons right
bunch of demons under him um Church they
tell you it's Satan beab is not Satan
but then Jesus replies listen don't you
know the scriptures like you have one
that is greater than Solomon standing
here in front of you and uh and so that
notion of what is this deal with Solomon
in demons because with casting out of
demons or these lower level entities
parasites whatever you want to call them
uh unclean spirits um he mentioned
Solomon and and a lot of people know the
story of Solomon but it's not really in
the scriptures the way that we know it
we know it because it comes from The
Testament of Solomon which was an early
Apocrypha book that talks about what
what happened and and what book mentions
you know what I'm saying um beab be alub
is The Testament of Solomon it's only
mentioned once in the scriptures The
Testament of Solomon talks about it so I
went I read that book and so it changed
the perspective on a lot of stuff for me
and uh casting out demons and different
angels that are being loosed to help you
cast out demons and stuff and I tell you
this with healing in church and we pray
in Jesus name if some people get healed
and some people don't you know we send
that energy some people receive it some
hits a wall like what what's going on
one thing that opened me up to study and
it planted a seat early on was Solomon
and um there was this weird notion of
that there was certain Demons by name
that were attributed to certain ailments
um yeah I even thought about it
yesterday and I remember this in church
I would see people walking p in church
with with a crooked back like there was
a man yesterday literally my heart went
out to
him I guess not enough cuz I didn't pray
for him or step out but his his back was
an L he was in he was an L like he's
leaning straight forward like like he's
crouched over he's walking across the
the Walmart parking lot and I remember
people praying for people that had those
types of ailments and stuff at church
and nothing happening and you want to
see them straighten their back out you
know in their spine align with the word
of God and sin healing and stuff and I
would wonder like why wouldn't some of
those people get healed I'm reading
Solomon Solomon will give you the name
of the demon that is associated with men
who have crooked backs like there's a
certain demon and he's he's bound under
a certain astrological sign and there's
a certain angel that you can work with
to bind him so in my head I'm like whoa
hold on let's like what if I studied and
knew this and when it came time to pray
I could name that demon Azeroth I bind
you and I asked for Michael to come in
and you know my mind just working cuz
you know what I'm saying I'm like I
believe Jesus knew this stuff man
Solomon knew it the disciples knew it
it's all in the ancient writings you
know and so my mind started working then
there's other you know spirits of um you
know making people deaf like deaf and
dumb Spirits they have certain names
they're not just a Rand random Spirit uh
it talks about the incubus and the
succubus the spirits that get on men and
women in the middle of the night and
arouse them sexually like they have
names and there's ways to bind them and
to get freedom from them and stuff
so it just opens up my mind to what is
possible what if we like can we try it
do you tell people can you tell your
pastor you're doing this they're going
to get rid of you you can't tell them
hey I've been studying The Testament of
Solomon I tried to talk
to my elders about this at the church
one of them was into it he's like yeah
but then he was like oh we can't put too
much stock in it cuz just Jesus brother
you know that kind of thing but yeah
have you have you looked into that
notion at all and just that idea man
like what if you don't you the thing is
you never know unless you try never know
unless you try that's one of the things
my mentor taught me uh early on was that
uh if you start getting messed with by a
certain entity because sleep paralysis
was a big issue and you know I'd wake up
wrestling things and I'd wake up seeing
things in my room so it was a it was a
really big issue uh he said one of the
first things you could do is call on the
Archangel Michael uh you know you can
you can call on the legions of angels
and you know that they could come down
and War in the spirit for you um and
that was one of the first things he told
me when it came to Healing people he
always told me to address the the demon
itself you're not just praying healing
for the person there there are times
where you could pray that the demon be
gone or that the demon uh be rebuked uh
that it would stop and release that
person from what's going on uh certain
names we didn't touch on too much but
the concept of like interceding so that
you're cutting what work the enemy has
in someone's life definitely came up for
sure uh but personally with the names I
I haven't I haven't experiment with it
I'm very curious about it though curious
now I haven't I haven't really I mean
now now there there's been times and I'm
sure you've been here too in Deliverance
Ministry and working with angels that
you'll intuitively get the name of that
demon sometimes when you're casting a
demon out of somebody or or that Spirit
they'll tell you their name like the
person will say my name is a zazil or
something you know what I'm saying yeah
definitely that happens but other times
in prayer as you're listening when
you're doing that working when I say
prayer this is our energy work we bring
this into all of our sessions this just
how your mind works prophetically
as you're listening the biggest part of
communion with the Lord is being able to
listen stop talking stop thinking and
listen and so sometimes when you're
doing that work you hear you hear a name
you'll see a vision of you doing
something like there's it it it'll
unlock things that just seem weird I
even think that that's what Jesus did
when he he's praying for these people
then he spits in the ground and makes M
makes mud and he's like Act of Faith I
can see I can see it's it was his faith
that allowed him I believe that's what
happened I don't think there was
anything magical about it spit or
whatever um but when you're praying for
people sometimes you'll get a name the
name is this the name is that they've
done this so BEC even though we don't
know the name through research
intuitively prophetically the name is
given to us and say I bind that Spirit
of this that you know whatever and I
release it you're free to go that kind
of thing um AB I'm going to touch on
this too because there's somebody in
chat here here Jesus saves Ministry is
wanting to know about um you know God
sending an evil spirit or whatever I
guess he didn't doesn't believe that or
he took uh took notion when I said that
but yeah when you read that the
scripture um this is exactly what what
my book's about guys it's really the
sovereignty of God to show you how God
uses all things the Lord said I'm the
Lord thy God I create good and evil
light and darkness I the Lord God do all
of these things not some of these things
I do all of these things and so yeah
when you read U I think it's in in
Samuel and in Kings is another time but
it actually says when you go back and
read that scripture about that Spirit
coming upon
Saul and when David played the harp he
played the liar and and then the spirit
would leave we're talking about healing
frequency we're talking about frequency
music there you get a lot of stuff in
that but it actually says an evil spirit
sent from the Lord Y and it says it over
and over it doesn't say an evil spirit
sent from Satan it says an evil spirit
sent from the Lord and then we see I the
Lord God do all of these things the Lord
did it God did it and so I know that
messes with our Theology and so I give
you in my book I give you a whole bunch
of examples where this happens another
one is in um Judges 9:23 and it says uh
then God sent an evil spirit between AMC
and the men of sheam and the men of
sheam dwelt treacherously with AMC I
give you a bunch of these scenarios we
go back to Paul you know where God
allowed the the spirit to to to to
torment him or to Buffet him um and he
asked God to to get rid of it and God
said no why I send it to you why am I
going to get rid of it you know so I
know it challenges our theology but when
you really want to see this stuff and be
able to operate in it to to the fullness
and start seeing results with it you got
to know the rules to the game we're
playing a game and we don't know the
rules to it we know some of it we know
how to like you know stay in but the
more you know universal law how Spirits
work how Spirits operate you start
learning all of these different things
and I guarantee you you'll find a lot of
victory in these areas that you were
suffering in you'll start seeing Freedom
you start operating in faith to levels
Beyond of releasing Angels working with
angels you have to understand and have a
grid for all of this stuff to be able to
take it to the next level that's what
all of our work does for me I'm sure for
you too KY like my podcast my book my
music is all to build your faith and to
take you to these deeper levels of
understanding where the supernatural
becomes natural to you and and and
understanding these things is huge God
is everything he is the all like he is
in all and through all there's nothing
that exists there's nowhere you can go
to get away from him he is in every atom
every molecule every Angel every demon
every smile of a baby every kiss between
lovers like God is in it all and
Everything Is Beautiful the good the bad
the Downs the up my Humanity my Divinity
it's all God and you got to be able to
see him in all of it and so that's what
this stuff is to do is to train you to
be able to do that and uh and you'll
find Victory man you'll start operating
in levels that you didn't even know were
accessible to you so I wanted to drop
that on you really quick go back and
read the scripture um if you have a
strong
concordance and the research that I did
you can do just type in evil spirit um
you can go to the strongest concordance
I I use es sword I've been using that
but you just type in evil spirit and it
will bring up every verse that says evil
spirit and you start finding all of
these weird obscure scriptures that you
just read over years ago that says that
God is sending these evil spirits on
people God is sending hurricanes God is
sending
tornadoes so then then where did you go
it's up to you the ball is in your court
do you abandon your faith and say God is
this Yahweh is this Tyrant of the Old
Testament it's a different God than the
New Testament there's a lot of people
who take that I don't take that stance
God is in all good evil Bad Ugly up down
left right ABAB start God is in all of
it so that's my rant bro what would you
say to that man God in all through all
the Lord is one one of my favorite
verses pertaining to that is the story
of Joseph when he sold into slavery by
his brothers and how that whole story
comes full circle to you know Joseph you
know having the power of pharaoh
basically and saving you know uh you
know his his family from the uh from the
famine and everything like that and how
God takes this this seemingly terrible
thing and the in these terrible events
that happened and they turned him around
and uh like he had his hand all on that
some people would say why would God
allow Joseph to be sold into slavery by
his brothers in the first place it's
it's it's a plan it's all it's all going
full circle and when you trust
exactly if it didn't happen they
wouldn't they wouldn't have survived you
know so you know that's your story you
know yeah that's your story all the bad
that and all the stuff that was the
scripture says God will use the things
that the enemy meant for your harm for
your good so you have to be in this
place where the enemy means you harm
like because the enemy sees value in you
but God uses that stuff you know your
test becomes your testimony you got to
have you got to go through something man
like and the scripture also tells us
that that's how character is formed you
know I hear this on The Joe Rogan
podcast a lot but they talk about people
their friends who are like in in in
comedy and they all have crazy stories
they were beat by their parents their
parents were alcoholics they you know
just they they didn't have life handed
to them on a silver spoon and what it
does for that individual they're a
little bit different they're different
than the friends who you know were were
born and just had everything handed to
them and they didn't have to work for
anything you having to go through stuff
man it makes you who you are that's how
characters develop you have to go
through something and for one thing it
birs a natural empathy you have a
natural passion I know people who have
come out of abused relationships where
they were beat by their their boyfriends
or their husbands guess what they have
now they don't have to act like they
care about Abused Women guess what they
do they go and they start a home for
abused and battered women because why
they've been abused and battered it's a
natural empathy for everything that you
go through I know I mean you just the
possibilities are are endless I come out
of the occult I come out of like really
deep crazy dark witchcraft hey I'm here
for you guys I didn't leave you God had
to pull me out and clean me up and get
right thinking and get me where I can
you know walk in the middle of these
spirits but I'm here for you man I'm
come back I ain't left you just like
Joseph let me pull you out let me clean
you up let me let me put a crown on your
head kiss your cheek and then then you
can deliver your family then you can go
back and save the people who tried to
kill your ass exactly as deep they tried
to kill you and it's the story of Jesus
it's your story the same people that you
that tried to kill you are going to be
the same people that need you man you
got to get it you got to get it in man
goes always how it goes it starts with
love too you have to have that one of
the things like you said empathy it just
it creates inside of you that intrinsic
love just that like this person like I
should treat them like I treat myself
like I want the best for them and uh
it's one of the two Commandments Jesus
gave is love others as you love yourself
it's just the main thing it's like you'd
want someone to help you you'd want
someone to come and and support you you
have to do that in next JS like you have
to have that uh you have to have that
download of love before you want do that
that's huge I mean you know we're
talking about you know working with
coaches or working with a mentor like
you have to actually go through it you
have to learn you have to partner with
with somebody to be able to to operate
in in that level I'm always like even on
a on a natural level like people who I
find that support my work and they reach
out and they whether it's Financial
whether it's patrons like it's you know
I'm trying to be a respector of persons
but like I noticed that and so if I got
somebody in my community who um you know
if they put out a book but then they've
been supporting me and they've been in
my corner they've been sharing in my
interviews like guess what I'm F to buy
their book maybe maybe I won't even read
it I'll be the first one to buy maybe
they put out a t-shirt design I'm going
to buy it like I'm going to support
that's just natural and that's unspoken
that's on a you know what I'm saying a
regular
level a very fleshly worldly level but
on the spiritual level like what you're
doing what you put in what you help
you're asking for help Jesus talks about
this in the Beatitudes and and and other
places like when you ask for pray for
for for help like how many people have
you you helped find somebody who who
needs help and help them like find
somebody who is mourning and mourn with
them right find somebody who needs a
friend and be a friend why because there
will be a time where you're going to
need a friend and you're going to look
around and you going to say you don't
have nobody I'm all by myself I ain't
got no friends you you were you weren't
a friend to anyone who needed you in in
their time of need your friends came to
you in their time of need and you turned
your back on them because you wasn't it
was too negative you didn't want to hear
it right so when you go through this
Calamity the same measure is going to be
given unto you so make sure Jesus says
when you have you know given a uh a cup
of water you know to a prophet you
receive a prophet's reward anybody who's
helped he said he said man why y'all
didn't come visit me in prison why y'all
didn't feed me when I was hungry like
when when was you locked up he said man
everything you've done unto the least of
these you've done unto me God sees all
that in the Bible that's called your
arms that Your Arms Reach up to heaven I
see what you've been doing man I'm going
to use you nobody nobody else has seen
what you've been doing you haven't been
getting accolades you haven't been
getting patted on the back like nobody
really cares about what you're doing but
I see it I know that you were laying on
your face in that room crying for hours
asking me to show show you my glory
nobody else knows that you know I know
these things and I reward you openly all
of this stuff comes into so whatever you
want to happen make sure you're you're
doing it if like the coach thing for me
um again find somebody who's already
doing it partner with them you know
because I feel I feel like it allows you
to step up to their level um spiritually
but even like on a even with that on a
physical level just understanding how
things work and how do they operate and
how do they do certain things and so
it's spiritual but it's practical at the
same
time that's how I operate and I know
that's how that's how it is in the
spirit it's called The Law of
compensation you can only take out what
you've put in you didn't put in on this
man you going to show up and reap the
rewards and you didn't put nothing you
didn't put it in on it you didn't put in
on this man
man hey that's how it works man you got
to put in on just show up with your
hands out everybody showing showing up
with the hands out and there's some some
stuff you can get the scripture says
even the dogs eat
crumbs that fall from the master's table
you can get crumbs but you supposed to
be getting a lot you supposed to be
sitting at the
table with the master not eating crumbs
under the table that's what every every
area of your life
man it's like it it takes work like you
do have to you know you says salvation
is free but you know uh you have to bear
fruit you know and and that bear fruit
it has to come from that place of love
it has to come from that like within you
you know uh from the renewing of your
person and and it takes work you have to
be you know what what you were saying
was actually was actually like
connecting with me you know I was
feeling that it's like you've been on
your face like you spent hour after hour
in the prayer room and in your secret
place you've been crying out for this
you've been helping the orphan and the
Widow like I see that you know there
there was one song that man it it broke
me man first time I heard it it was um
How He Loves
Us that was a good one yeah it's a
Crowder I heard that first
but this one uh was like do you know the
way you move me was the name of the song
and in the song is like I I've seen
every time you like you've chosen me
over this like I I've seen when you
picked me over your friends and and when
you took the Lonely Road of love like I
saw that like you don't know the way you
move me when you choose me over all the
worldly things and that song just broke
me because like I was in a place where
like I didn't have a lot of friends like
there was there was not really much
going on and I was reaching out here and
there but I wasn't seeing results and
then that song came in tears just on the
floor whole time you know just just good
time but uh like it takes that time you
have to get alone in order to make in
order to make those changes I love it um
guys everybody listening we we we've
we've we've been going deep this is
really deep this is the threshold that
you have to pass through for those
mystical experiences because it's about
getting your heart right getting your
mind right Renewing Your Mind renewing
your heart um everything stems from that
so this is a threshold that we passed
through and now I want to shift the
conversation now that you've passed
through this threshold now that you've
you've you know we've given you these
seeds and we've watered the seeds that's
already within your heart about how to
tap into mystical experience how to get
into this stuff some people dropped off
they quit watching you know it's too
much too much Jesus talk too much heart
talk now I want to talk about some of
the beings some of the Angels some of
the things that you've encountered on
the other side cuz I feel like all of
that groundwork allows us to understand
who we are in that realm so that we can
operate and access we talking about UFOs
aliens that's my cup of tea I want to
know if you got any experiences so let's
talk about that a little bit man um as
far as you know these angels that you've
been talking about um contacting or
maybe they contact you do you go to them
do they come to you let's talk about
angel etiquette and some of your
experiences bro it's it's a strange
dealing sometimes uh the first time I
encountered an angel I I believe it was
definitely like an opene Vision like it
was actually there uh I woke up after a
dream of like a friend uh they needed
help or something like that and like the
message was you need to help this friend
uh so I woke up after that dream I think
it was probably 3:00 or 4 in the morning
and I was sleeping on the couch at this
point uh of where I was living and you
know I woke up and I heard somebody
talking in my living room I don't know
if you've seen this video on my channel
but it's pretty pretty frightening uh
you know I woke up sitting on the couch
and I was on my back and I'm hearing
this talking on the other side of the
room and it's saying get this it's
saying we are temples for the Living God
we must be holy as he is Holy and he's
just saying this over and over and over
again and I look crazy man in the corner
just saying who is this guy exactly now
I look over and he's pacing on the other
side of the room back and forth and I
only see it because it's sparkling it's
shimmering like imagine if the Invisible
Man had glitter dumped on him like I'm
seeing his features everything sparkling
and shiny and I look over I'm like oh my
God like what what the hell's going on
right now and as I notice it it stops
talking and it looks over at me you know
I see it like sparkle and everything
it's like turning super it's so surreal
it looks over at me and it says you are
son and right when it says that like it
teleports from the other side of the
room right next to me as I'm laying on
the couch and it says son and it drops
its hands on me and I feel the craziest
vibrations like energy
I don't are they ready for this story I
don't know I'm ready come on I got
questions let's go uh it it lays its
hand on me and I feel this crazy it's
like it's like electricity it's like
being being on a roller coaster all of a
sudden just you know crazy energy and it
says you will run to heaven after it
says that like I lift up off of the
couch I don't tell many people this
because right when you this is
physically this isn't I I woke up from
the dream and I was about to get up and
I heard this thing and you're totally
Lucid I [Â __Â ] bricks man I didn't
know was going on and I start to
levitate off the couch and I'm moving
toward the ceiling and as I start moving
toward the ceiling I'm screaming I'm
belting like glass break belting like I
I don't know what's going on and you
know as I start moving toward the
ceiling I kind of stay up there for a
second and I just hover with this energy
and I come right back down onto the
couch and I sit
there till the morning I sit there until
the sun comes up just petrified and
right then I realized like in the Bible
where Angels would show up to people and
give them messages they fall over dead
yeah it's it's terrifying sometimes but
they show up
um it's a it was it was a crazy it was a
crazy instance but I knew from that that
I was like all right I need to get more
serious like I need to dedicate more
time to getting in the quiet place
figuring out what I need to do and you
know helping people I had been wanting
that experience for forever basically
yeah so and is that is that when was
that like a precipice like a be a
beginning point for like your astral
travels to become more potent or to to
go deeper into that or was you already
kind of doing that and trying to get to
heaven through this way and there's like
more that you have access to now how
does that I believe at the time I was I
was praying a lot for Angelic Encounter
of course and uh uh visitation and
things like that also like getting toen
I just wanted that closeness I wanted
the experience um and I was spending a
lot of time in the in like my secret
place and uh just prayer and worshiping
and this experience like you said it was
the precipice to me going out and
spending more time uh getting active in
the in uh my community and church and
things like that I was just it was like
the wakeup call like hey take this
seriously because you're getting what
you're asking for yeah you were still in
church at that time oh yeah definitely
definitely yeah I just feel like it was
the like again I'm going to you know
you're going to run to heaven and now
like again you're what you're doing is
like you know your your astral
projection stuff and teaching people how
to run to Heaven how to get alone to go
within to get without to leave your body
is not literally like getting out of
your body but it's going within and I
feel like cuz you know the Kingdom of
Heaven is within so as you're going
within and you're exploring these
different Realms I feel like even that
kind of experience like that would would
open you up to some of these more things
that you're teaching now and teaching
others how to do as well it's awesome
yeah and it it's one of those things
where I didn't make the Angels show up I
didn't facilitate any of those things I
think it was just an openness and I you
did though like because you wanted it
you know what I'm saying like it's been
a long time and then you were just
chilling you literally sleeping you wake
up and it was there this thing that
you've been believing for you know maybe
even having dreams about that's
something too like a lot of prophets and
Sears and stuff you have dreams about
these Miracles and you had dreams about
the dude who was supposed to teach you
and take you deeper and then it happens
and stuff so a lot of a lot of times you
wake up from these dreams and you're
healing people you're flying you're
leaving your body doing all of these
exploits then you wake up and then it's
either like an a man or like I want this
kind of thing and it was it's cool to
see that experience to see where you are
now of kind of like you know it was
almost something that that was unlocked
for you through that Angelic experience
now let me ask you this because this is
something big and obviously it's the
same thing we got to we talking about
these angels and demons an angel is a
messenger that's all it means and
whether it's an elemental messenger
whether it's your ancestor who shows up
as a messenger whether it's Jesus who
shows up and gives you a message like a
demon demons carry messages too right so
when we talking about it was this an
angel or was this you know an apostle or
or something like that because you you
probably hear about as we're talking
about you know some of these Saints from
Beyond the Grave meeting with Jesus like
other people are talking about having
these experiences where Moses and Elijah
and Enoch are appearing to them um even
you know old ministers old preachers you
know from like the early days are are
showing up to them in spirit form and
and teaching them and you said it look
like a like like an older man like do
you think that this could have been you
know Moses Enoch Elijah something like
that do you think it was just a energy
Apparition of that embodiment of energy
like could have been so many things
right yeah definitely a lot it just uh
the most important thing for me
concerning that experience was the
message like obviously it was it was
cool having this thing happen and you
know feeling this energy and like moving
up and levitating and things but the
most important thing was we are temples
for the Living God like we have to stay
holy like you're a son you're going to
run to Heaven things like that because
that's what stuck with me the most like
uh going back to those things when I
feel like I'm lost it's like no no I had
this experience like I know this is the
way things are actually
going man it's deep
um the beautiful thing is that it
unlocks something in you and it carries
a message that's big people need to
understand that um I like to talk about
I had this experience that I read about
I don't know which came first I don't
know if I read it first and then it
happened or it happened then I read it I
think it was that way around I think I I
don't remember though but Job chapter 4
um job talks about waking up in the
middle of the night when deep sleep
falleth on men sounds similar to what
you did wake up when deep sleep falleth
on man he said he said I seen a a a
vision there was something that appeared
in the in the hallway in the doorway and
it says that I could not tell the shape
or the form thereof because it was
changing um but he said it was like a
what he's explaining looks like a gas or
a smoke or something that's just like
moving and so he sees it and he say when
he see when he locks eyes on it all the
hairs on his body stood on ends he got
chills it freaked him out his bones
begin to shake with fear there's that
fear when you see an angel or just you
wake up and you rubbing sleep out of
your eyes and there something moving in
the doorway it's scary no matter who you
are um and it said that it communicated
with him that it said that uh who is uh
man in in the likeness of God or
whatever pretty much saying that you
were mortal and you only have so many
years maybe the it was a message that
shook him to his core and then it
vanished and disappeared job talks about
this job chapter 4 um I had an
experience like that um snap years ago I
um when when all of this stuff was new
watching a lot of documentaries reading
a lot of esoteric books and all that and
still in church I begin to like post
stuff on social media and challenge some
of my Christian friends and and I
remember exactly what it was I remember
posting something about amen raah you
know and every we we pray in the name of
Amon Jesus is known as the amen the
first the last the amen amen raah the
son God right um and then every religion
When you pray we end our pray prayers in
the name of the son of God am in raah
and I remember like kind of putting that
out there on social media and I had a
lot of precious Christian friends who
weren't into this kind of stuff and
scared a lot of people and when I posted
it I felt he shouldn't do that don't put
that out there you're going to confuse a
lot of people you know you're going to
scare a lot of people you need to take
it down and I didn't I felt the Holy
Spirit tell me that and U I didn't take
it down and then even that night getting
ready for bed I did I knew I was like
should I take it down no I left it up
and like scaring people you know maybe
killing my relationship with some
Christian friends as they see it oh he's
on one he's on some weird stuff you know
am and ra that's who Jesus really is or
whatever they thought anyway I go to
sleep I wake up in the middle of the
night you know I don't know what time it
was 3: in the morning something like
that I wake up and I look and there's a
light in my room was there's a light
like from the bathroom and it's the room
is dimly lit and I look up and I see a
shadow there's a shadow from something a
dresser and then it start the shadow
starts to move and it it like was like a
smoke it's just a smoke the shadow turns
into a smoke and just starts moving on
my roof and I look up and I'm laying in
bed like what the hell and
immediately the thought came to me take
that crap off the internet right now oh
God I woke up I jumped out of my bed and
um I ran first I ran to my to be honest
I ran to my daughter's room check on her
we got spirits in the house let me check
on my daughter she was little M check on
her and then I go immediately to
Facebook and I just remove that post and
uh again just these little like I I feel
like we get those downloads a lot of
times synchronicity ities and stuff and
those Spirits are around you just don't
always get to see them you get downloads
you get winds and bursts of inspiration
from the Angelic and but I just happened
to see it it was there I could have not
even seen it it scared me it shook me to
my core like now read job job chapter 4
this is biblical they did this in the
Bible they were doing this me Spirit
showing up and giving you telepathic
messages all of the angels and these
things they don't have to speak to you
ver
they speak telepathically with
vibrations sounds resonances thought
forms to able to send you these thoughts
telepathically so man those experiences
change you man and and they birth
something within you that that more is
possible that maybe I can engage and
maybe I'm not supposed to obviously I
didn't really try to go deeper into that
experience like to reproduce it but
there's been other stuff that you're
like it it opens up something in your
mind in your psyche in your conscious
that more is available that maybe I can
I don't know about repeat it or have
other encounters or whatever but um I've
been real tactful about
spitefully not you know making fun of
Christians or those who weren't as
learned as I am and stuff and from that
moment on I've definitely you know had
had my reservations about lording
knowledge over people or making fun of
people who
were ill informed or whatever you know
definitely yeah yeah I definitely get
that and I feel like when you're reading
something or you hear a story The
testimony like do it again God that sort
of thing it's like when you hear
someone's story about something it like
it transfers an energy for you to have
the experience that's a testimony yeah
you know and like there was an instance
I believe I read in scripture I think it
was Isaiah where uh you know he's
hearing the voice call his name and he's
like yes hello and he thinks it's okay
yeah yeah he thinks he thinks somebody
else is calling me he said did you call
me he like no no I didn't call you but
if it happens again it's the Lord say
Here I Am Lord like what do you want and
so I read that and then shortly after I
had an experience I woke up and I heard
uh I heard someone call my name yep
gentle but like loud and affirmative
like I yeah yeah like
cow and then I remember that verse I was
like oh uh it's like Here I Am Lord what
do you what do you what do you want from
your servant yeah and U and he says will
you live for me and you know I was like
yes and then that was the end of it it's
like you get these experiences when
you're open and when you read a story
like you get that energy from it you
know that's that's what stories I think
are good for and why I share so many
experiences on my channel is that when I
do it fills people with inspiration it's
like oh if this happens to this normal
guy because I am just a normal guy like
I'm not like doing anything crazy uh it
can happen to them you know they can
have an experience as well that's
something we've and that's 100% uh God
is not a respect of persons what um a
testimony builds faith of what is
possible for you is possible for me and
that's what a real testimony should do
you know God's Saving Grace uh mystical
experience healing love restoration like
that's what it's about right so any
anytime that we we share those stories
they should be they should excite the
person now what about and judging by
some of these comments here at Le say
some of them one of them we talk about
this a lot on here because we we
definitely bump shoulders with people
who even in the Christian Movement and
mystical movement alike people who lie
and make it up make it up as they go and
I think a lot of them
justify uh that because they're building
faith just like you said like um if even
though I didn't experience it I can I
can make this story up
it it's similar to a bib biblical story
I'm just kind of putting myself in even
my little story right m kind of
thrusting yourself in a biblical story
uh there's people who make stories up of
grandio healings and Angel feathers and
Goldust whatever and it does build your
faith and on wonder I've heard about
actually Kirby Kirby
Delano big big Christian Mystic guy real
big right now in uh Sri Lanka but he
talked about learning under a guy and
watching videos of these uh Angel
feathers and and the gems that would
appear I don't know if you remember this
Christian Movement that these gemstones
would appear and diamonds and rupes and
emeralds would appear and fall out of
heaven and stuff and and he said he
followed a guy and he was learning under
him and his and watching his videos it
built his faith up to a super high
expectation level to where he manifested
that and started receiving that he
started having crazy Miracles and
feathers and gold dust and gems appear
here come to find out the guy was lying
that the guy the guy who he was learning
from was manufacturing all this stuff
and made it up
to build faith in people or to sell
books or whatever but Kirby on the other
hand says listen the guy was total farce
but I it increased my faith and I did
experience what he was talking about so
there's people who would talk about
these Angel encounters or whatever to
sell a book or to whatever what what do
you think about that have you I mean
they're in the New Age movement they're
in the Christian Movement they're in the
spiritual movement all of them you know
you know I naturally hold a healthy
skepticism of a lot of things when it
comes to matters of money
especially with all the churches I've
gone to and I've met some uh prophets
and prophetesses and and uh they talk
about these experiences they've had uh
some of them have been on TV shows and
you know all this you know big books
like you're talking s absolutely Sid
Roth It's Supernatural I used to watch
that all the time um and and you'd get
these big Grand stories and I've met
some of these people because I'm like
let me see if this guy is legit yeah and
uh some of them uh and I don't I'm not
going to say any names obviously but
some of them I come away thinking yeah
because like when it's a matter of money
yeah like I've been blessed by not
having money throughout a majority of my
Christian walk because when it comes to
someone lying to me it's like I don't
have any money to give you so you don't
have any reason to lie to me you're not
getting anything out of me uh but if you
trust that discernment and Trust that
the spirit within you is going to know
uh what's going on you should be fine
but in some cases like you like you were
saying uh it builds your faith just to
hear the story anyway yeah and I try to
hold
myself uh because I have been told
adamantly by the spirit that I have to
hold myself to honesty yeah to to the
High um like I I can't embellish a story
I can't twist a story uh I can't say
that I've experienced something I
haven't it has to be authentic because
it has to reach the right people and if
I offend people which I will uh you know
they weren't the right people to hear it
I feel like you got that term for me
that healthy skepticism because that
that's my thing yeah I've been talking
about that a lot like oh yeah that the
healthy SK skepticism is is huge for me
it is I really resonate with that with
you know what I'm saying doubting Thomas
how the church has always downplayed him
because he doubted God or he didn't
believe it he wanted a sign listen Jesus
died he said there's going to be come
people coming pretending to be me be
careful when I go other people are going
to come and say I'm Christ and I'm don't
listen to him Jesus goes away he dies
whatever and Jesus comes back and
everybody's like here's Jesus he's like
hold on man he told us like he told us
people are going to be trying to trick
us man he's like I'm not going to
believe until I stick my fingers in the
holes in his hands I want to see where
they crucified our Lord he wanted proof
that's did Jesus come through the wall
yeah
like he
he that's healthy skepticism I mean and
it opens you up to more experiences in a
way the healthy skepticism not
skepticism of everything without reason
but like that hey this could be false
show me if it's real like yeah it opens
you up it really does um I remember like
praying in some prayer groups years ago
and I would see the Lord start to use me
and when I prayed and stuff like that
and I would pray under my breath as I'm
laying hands on people because I'm
trying to train myself I'm trying to
figure out what's going on you know and
uh I'm like okay Lord nothing fake
nothing made up nothing fake nothing I
don't want people falling out and just
you know for the because we've seen too
much of this I come from the charismatic
stuff so I'm like okay Lord nothing fake
and that's still my prayer nothing fake
nothing made up nothing fake and and
when I would pray that and I it'd be
like a mantra and nobody can hear it
it's under my breath and in my head but
I would lay hands on people and folks
would shoot back and and just stuff
would fall off of them like they be
going through stuff and and people be
start crying and stuff and it was like
oh wow and I would hear them talk
amongst themselves oh you got let Tru
seica pray for you got to let Derek pray
for you and these little things and I'm
like wow and it's not me it's in spite
of me it's who you know God is but it's
about letting yourself be a clear vessel
for the energy to flow to and through
and so with nothing fake and cuz I done
been in circles where they trying to
push you down and all kind of oh yeah
they faking it and stuff and I don't
want none of that you know damn that so
yeah the healthy skepticism man allows
you to open up for real deep
lifechanging profound experiences again
with the astral travel or going to
heaven or seeing Angels like you can
imagine an angel and talk to it or
whatever and then go tell people that it
talked to you it talked back like a lot
of weird stuff like that but there's a
difference when a real being
appears you know shows up you know it
there's a difference there and I think
that you can position yourself to have
more of those encounters if there's that
healthy skepticism it's good that you
don't believe cuz everybody's being you
know deceived by all these charlatans
out here you know so for you wanting to
know and wanting proof God knows your
faith you know he knows what you're
going through he knows what it takes and
you know he'll he'll move Heaven and
Earth to show you who he is you know
definitely
definitely um Christy says awesome
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speaking of merchandise I got a new
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be uh I'm excited about this t-shirt but
so yeah man so let's let's move a little
bit into another thing that took me a
little bit deeper a lot a bit deeper
let's say that was getting into aliens
or UFOs I was hoping you were going to
talk about that our wavelength man big
for me man right on dude I'm going to
work on another t-shirt you know I'm big
into summoning then we call it at least
that's what it was called summoning UFOs
or contacting UFOs or whatever so teach
me man I've had some experiences but
like you know I've been into the whole
like UFO alien Community for a long long
long time but uh yeah I was hoping we
would do some yeah so what's your what's
your experiences with uh uh you know
Christians tell you they're demons be
careful they're trying all the time
anything anything not understood is is
demonic in in some Christian circles
unfortunately um I always thought like
you hear these stories in the Bible that
some of the uh Angels or some of the U
like the the wheels bisecting wheels
that you know Ezekiel Saw some of these
things are are aliens and things like
that so I would always about these
stories and uh just doing research on
like Roswell and uh just recently
probably about uh a year ago now I saw
that documentary with h Bob Lazar in it
and I was like oh man this is this is
good stuff you know just that idea that
uh there are beings out there that uh
have higher intelligence and that they
can reach us from wherever they are is
just phenomenal and so I've always been
curious about that and the idea that
aliens could possibly be a dimensional
phenomena as well I always used to toss
that idea around that uh that whole Alex
Jones ditional
rapist well exactly for all of our flat
earther friends listening that's that's
what they are you know aliens are um
interdimensional beings that they can't
live off world or because there is no
space this is our reality this is as far
as you can go um so they all cuz when I
talk about my UFO experiences and stuff
they all they shoot it down a lot
because they're like they is is no space
you idiot there's no outer
space it's flat hey shoot you believe
what you want to believe man I uh shoot
I don't know one one of the things that
interests me is like the abduction
stories that people have I haven't had
one of those personally but I've talked
to a few people that have and U it's
just really interesting stuff it's just
one of the main things is just like what
are they trying to figure out or like do
our souls have something to do with it
do we have some energy that they want
some life force that they can gain um
you know I've heard about people AST
projecting to Alpha centuri and these
other star systems and seeing aliens
there and aliens in the core of our
planet just a whole bunch of stuff so
it's got me all over the place I'm big
into that I mean I I I cover all that in
my book I tried to cover everything so I
definitely cover the UF tell I may have
to get this book man sounds you can get
the audio book for free um listen to me
read it to you you know so um I got to
hold it in my hands man I got to it's
definitely a relic for sure I love I'm
so proud of it pictures and all that
good stuff that's awesome man
congratulations thank thank you st dude
the uh the abduction thing like here
here's the deal I feel like cuz I
started off studying in the Christian
realm and and unequivocally again every
they're they're demons every single one
of them they're Fallen Angels here to
abduct you to kidnap you listen that was
my fear as a kid like I was cuz aliens
could be like monsters that are real
they're going to show up in your room
kidnap you and do I watched Fire in the
Sky you know those alien abduction
movies as a kid that programmed my mind
so when it came to me studying as a
Christian again they were saying that
they're all demonic kind of opened up to
some of the different um uh other uh
schools of thought when it comes to that
and and found some really interesting
stuff and started to research outside of
Christendom cuz I felt like the
Christians had like uh they had like
they were biased they had an agenda you
know to P that they were all and so I
started listening to Steven Greer and
James gilland and just listening
everything so as far as abductions are
concerned I will say this that um a lot
of people are mixing up demonic
encounters and calling them UFO
encounters they're calling them aliens
they're waking up with beings in their
room uhhuh and they're being attacked or
whatever and they're saying that they're
aliens from everything that I've
experienced there is an order to the
universe to the the heaven you got to
understand what Heavens are the heavens
are the heavens is the sky it's outter
space the Fallen Angels were kicked out
of heaven they fell they were kicked out
of heaven and they can't come back
because they left their first estate
they can't repent and go back to Heaven
they were kicked out you got to
understand that heaven is disguise and
so they were kicked out they don't get
to drive space ships and fly around the
heavens your Sky they're kicked out the
fallen angels are down here with us
they're they're they're in our
government they're running High systems
of of of Education pharmaceutical
Industries like the demons are down here
they're not abducting you and taking you
on ships and putting you know all kind
of things in your body um that's a good
way to look at it so I think that a lot
of um a lot of what people are calling
UFO abductions are demonic encounters
that they're saying we're aliens there
is a there there is a a code of ethics
there is a Evolution and and that's why
we aren't really welcome that's why we
aren't welcomed Among the Stars right
now because we have both Natures within
us like they they are the Angelic they
are of of of of the higher order there
is no you know uh you know what I'm
saying stealing and killing like you
have to you have to evolve spiritually
and to a level where you're operating
out of love that's why you're seeing a
lot of people who when they have these
encounters with these so-called aliens
or Angels whatever you want to call them
their Messengers they're talking about
unlocking psychic abilities they're
talking about becoming more intuitive
more uh you know becoming more of an
empath and and things like that uh
telepathic communication uh because
they're unlocking those things within
you of you having that encounter where
people used to say that they had
abduction scenarios these were big in
the70s ' 80s and 990s you don't hear
that term anymore at all you may hear
what some people here and there but for
the most part of like the majority
people are saying that they're
contactees and that they're experiencers
and that they've had these encounters
that have moved them not to fear not to
be scared of it's going to happen again
but unto love to to teach them to become
more more loving teach them to become
more inclusive more um all of these
things that are happening from a UFO EXP
experience an Alien Encounter whether
it's seeing a ship whether it's you know
whatever you know summoning a ship
there's so many different ways so um I'm
pretty big on that against the evil
alien agenda kind of thing I really
don't believe in that I believe in evil
demons and you know and and other
disembodied entities and you know
Spirits energies that are lingering in
your home and stuff that you're
encountering this kind of stuff and
people are saying it's it's aliens I'm
sorry if you can hear barking my dog is
my little dog does it every now and then
and you're good though yeah he's he's
losing his mind but I I think that's a
that's a good point you make is that the
the evil entities of demons are down
here uh that's where most people
encounter them you know the prince of
the power of the air sort of thing you
know he's he's here um and with with
aliens like again it's a topic I I
absolutely love talking about and and
you keep bringing up summoning them like
I I I like this idea I haven't heard of
that well yeah okay so you talked about
you talked about watching the the
documentaries
watch the C5 documentary that Steven
Greer did I got write C5 and there's a
couple of them like that and uh so on
our on our Retreats we go out and I try
to plan these Retreats as close to the
new moon as I can one reason is because
starting things on the new moon or close
to the new moon is a good thing to uh to
start something fresh to to reset and to
start over um but for another is to go
out stargazing that you know the the
stars are bright you can see more stars
when the moon is a new moon and so we we
do the C5 context we go out we do uh
deep deep meditation and and we connect
with the Angelic entities and uh we go
through Christ right that kind of thing
and then we go out and we pray we set
the intention we project our thoughts
out there to say hello and come whatever
may you know we've had some really
really cool experiences under the stars
that changed my life dude like it
started off by myself and it was
watching a video that birthed something
in me I'll tell you the video Pro look
up Prophet Yahweh UFO Prophet man your
your life all this Prophet Yahweh UFO
that that video rocked me um because he
was because I was a Christian and he
goes out and uh I think it's ABC NBC
News whatever they caught wind of this
guy and uh they went and did a a report
of Investigation on him and so he says
yes I can make UFOs appear on my command
I can summon you UFO so they're like
let's go do a it was like close to
Halloween or something they did a report
on them paranormal segment of the news
and they go out there to his name is
Prophet Yahweh Prophet Yahweh should be
the one on the news channel um and
everybody make sure you watch this video
I've played it on here several times I
talk about it in my book but he goes out
and the news crew is there with him and
he says I can make Angels UFOs
appear by using he says the the the HEB
Hebrew version of the Old Testament I'm
like oh wow Hebrew I I'm studying Hebrew
at the time I'm studying you know the
Stow back stuff and uh ancient ways and
he goes out and he words he goes puts
his hands in the air and says Yahweh I
ask you to give us a sighting so that
these people will know that I'm not
crazy ask you to give us a sighting and
send one of your angels and then this
little you know white Speck appeared and
they got it on camera and it was like
this or or something that was it was
during the day they got in on camera and
everybody who was there were like they
were their minds were blown there's hey
something happened like this guy did
this something appeared and then so they
called the Naval Air Station they called
the the the um um the airport to make
sure that there was nothing in the air
and they reported nothing
so and then they they say there it is
and he'd see it he' say hallelujah
hallelujah yahe thank you Yahweh and he
had a whole bunch of these videos and
then I finding other people able to do
this and then there's whole movements of
people who go out and do this so I said
hey let me try it let me try it so go
out and the job that I was working at
the time made it to where I could be out
there really early like I I went to work
at like 2:00 in the morning and so if I
hurried up and loaded my truck and I had
an easy day I can get out by 3:00 so and
I can drive a good hour to find a good
spot and be where I want to be by 4: in
the morning so I'm at a rest area by
myself or an empty parking lot or a
field that I made sure I got to and
every day I would expect and I would
pray for a sighing and do I seen things
that blew my mind 100% um stars stars
that are parked up up there for like an
hour and then move when the sun comes up
you think it's a star but then it moves
and it goes into another star like so
many many many things that blew my mind
that like took me deeper so every day
like I'm at I'm at work we're trying to
load our trucks and everybody's hanging
out they're like hey you leaving out too
early I was like hey I gotta I gotta go
man I I want to hurry up and get back
today but I'm trying get to these places
before the sun comes up because I want
to get there early um what's his name um
Muhammad Ali has a quote where he says
that he used to go on these early
morning jogs before the sun comes up he
says he used to see them playing tag
between the Stars he'd see UFOs playing
tag I seen that really yeah there's
these man so with that that unlocked so
much in me and I found this website
called Bible ufo.com it was from Patrick
cook who's not no longer with us every
Bible reference that could be a UFO
ancient UFO experiences just so you know
I the site's down I've tried to rebuild
it Bible ufo. net just about to look it
up no Bible ufo. net it was.com I
rebuilt it I paid somebody to rebuil it
so I tried to salvage all of his info
cuz is no longer with us in his sight
labs this man is doing work for the
nation Yeah man so I mean it changed my
life dude you know even as a Christian
and and so there's all these ancient and
historical UFO exciting from like dude
there was times in like Jerusalem and
stuff where like there's reported that
there was this ships all in the sky and
everybody thought it was Armageddon
because all of these UFOs showed up like
there's all of the and stuff is in the
paper there was there's times in
Jerusalem there was a sword there was a
sword a black sword and like a saucer
thing come down and and they have like
historical writings on all of this stuff
and then we look at the ancient art of
Jesus on the cross and you see these
little men driving
spaceships in the in the background the
Mona Lisa and all these pictures of the
baby Jesus and that point is the people
on the background pointing up at this
and this is Renaissance art they didn't
they didn't have technology
man so that all I get I love this
stuffff it lit a fire within me and I'm
trying to tell you these stories to
light a fire in you and I want you to go
out and make your own connection and and
do your thing man so for sure that's
that's where I'm at man that's that's
crazy well I know what I'll be doing in
the mornings now I got to go out there
after I you know do some research and go
out there I'm all about the experience
man there's something to encounter and
then it's in the physical that's the
difference too so we don't have to close
our eyes and go within maybe you start
there right you going to start with the
meditation you're going to start with
the AST astral projection you're going
to send the intention you're going to do
the inner work but then you open your
eyes and okay where are you where are
you come say Hello send send the you
know when you read the scriptures the
the Chariots of Fire um there's a story
in um um Kings I think it is or judges
where um uh Elijah and the young man
they were being tracked by this Army and
they went to sleep and woke up and the
Army had encircled them all the way
around them the Young man freaks up
Elijah man what we're going to die he's
like tripping quit tripping because
those who there are more that are for us
than those who are against us it says he
prayed for the young man's sight he
prayed for the young man and when he did
he was able to see Chariots of Fire all
the way around them en circled more than
them so he prayed for them for the eyes
of his understanding to see what was
already there he was able to see it so
for me with that in my mind in faith I
go out allow me to see the Chariots of
Fire you know that's what you know what
I'm saying the maraba that's what the
word means if if you didn't know that I
did not if you go back yeah if you go
back to the the Hebrew you can look it
up if you look up Chariot which just
means a vehicle right that's all it
meant a vehicle of fire we think of
horsedrawn Chariots but it just means a
a a mode of
transportation um but the Hebrew word is
meraba which is a vehicle and what we
believe is a vehicle of light you know
so you have the Star of David is the mar
is spinning really fast and turns into
light and some believe that you can turn
your body into a vehicle of light and
and bilocate and think that Jesus did
this and there's some um some stuff in
Egypt as well that talks about the seats
of light or the wheels of light
meditation of spinning your chakras tur
your body into light and so that's kind
of what I've did with the the meditation
there but exactly I'm excited for you to
go out man this this reminds me of uh
the story of Ezekiel one of his visions
of God where he sees like God in the sky
I think it's the same one where he sees
like the wheels bisecting wheels that
sort of thing and he describes uh God as
uh like fire like a like a metallic with
fire inside and with the strong
concordance they also say energy yeah
and so with the Chariots of Fire being a
vehicle of light you could say like
energy and so it kind of makes me wonder
what it actually look like because first
thing in your mind you're like oh it was
a chariot you know with the horses but
it's possible exactly you know it's
possible that he was seeing uh
definitely he was seeing uh UFOs or
something like that uh I love those
little uh you know synchronicities and
things yeah I mean even when you you
look up the term seraphim in the Bible
it means the fiery serpant the fiery
ones the burning ones they're made out
of fire and and when if you read Enoch
there's a lot of people going back to
Enoch now Enoch says that the Angels
when they
travel they have you know they they're
not matter that they're that they travel
by the speed of light and they're
they're fire in the in the heavenlies
they look like fire when they travel but
it says that they have the ability to
come to Earth and take upon the
appearance of men so here's e here's you
know um Enoch talking about these angels
that he saw in the vision that were fire
the seraphim are fiery beings and then
in Psalm it says the Lord maketh his
ministering Spirits his angels as a
flame of fire y um and then it's that
same scripture is repeated in Hebrews so
it's these angels these beings that are
made of fire but they're able to take
shape God is a consuming fire like you
said and God is light you know and so uh
when we're talking about light language
and and and the light and healing and
sending light you know that we have a
light within us we have we have that
piece of that fire in us we have that
Divinity as well um gets really deep but
indeed it does it should open you up for
those experiences I believe that's
that's uh definitely I'm excited I'm
excited
you know I love hearing about new
stories and new experiences because when
I do it's just like oh man yeah you know
time to have some fun I'm going to
experience some of this uh makes me
wonder about the uh Book of Enoch I hear
about it you know uh here and there but
you know where's a good place to find it
and I I feel like it's about Enoch's
experience with angels and demons but
I'm I'm just not too versed well you got
um for me and this is just me some
people like the whole thing I think I
like the first 17 chapters and they're
short so the first 17 chapters it it
eventually gets into destruction and
coming judgments and stuff like that
which is cool too if you want to keep
reading into that but the when you're
studying the spirit world and how Angels
and Demons operate like you have to go
to Enoch the Bible gives so many
references to the Book of Enoch you know
in Jude it talks about a prophecy
mentioned in in Enoch that is only in
Enoch and you can you can read that as
well so um yeah it talks about how these
angels operate it talks about Fallen
Angels um uh but yeah if you want to
understand spirit world for for sure
it's a good one to to to get into um I'm
putting it on the list surprised I
haven't read it all this time this is
one of those things that you hear about
but that that's something that um it's
like a Gateway for a lot of people they
read Enoch and it gets them into Solomon
right the test them as Solomon but be
careful though even with Enoch and
Solomon I don't really I don't vouch
for the the Grim Wars or the um the keys
of Enoch or the Keys of Solomon which it
gets into like a lot of crazy Angel
magic and I don't think that that's more
like a cult sort of stuff so yeah be
careful with those but when you get into
The Testament of Solomon and then you
get into the Book of Enoch those are
100% fine to to read without having to
worry about getting possessed or opening
up any portals to the nether worlds or
something portals to the dark dimension
yeah but no they are portals for sure
and uh you get to see them again like
there's a difference again with like
seeing it within your mind's eye or or
even seeing something that's not really
there to where like oh my God there's a
fiery thing being and and there may not
even be like here's the thing too is
that a lot of people believe that the um
the Elohim or the the U not uh the
cherubim are actually living entities
that they're you would think that there
are ships but they're alive and these
are actual entities that are fire beings
traveling and I and and not just a fire
look for fire for sure but I've seen so
many different um like stuff that looks
like uh uh stingrays flying in the night
sky like uh there's orbs that you can
see that are clear that look like blimps
there's like a whole bunch of crazy
stuff and they communicate
telepathically so as you're saying hello
you may get some of that that knowledge
of Love or creativity is imparted I mean
what do you think when you see something
like that like for me God all of my
music and everything I'm doing is comes
from these few uh super natural
experiences that changed my life they
imparted something and they continued to
it I asked for it like the last time cuz
it's been a while this was like 2012
2013 2014 but when we go out as a group
now I'm like hey I want to see you I
haven't been a while I need some I need
some inspiration man please let me see
say hello you know and some of them I I
know by name that kind of thing but um
um I've seen so much dude I've seen a
fleet during the day a fleet fet of them
dude it was like 70 or so 70 yeah in the
in in the daytime we started seeing them
in the day cuz it's easier to see them
at night right CU if it's a bright light
moving yeah know you're like oh yeah so
uh during the day we started seeing them
too um some of the cigar shaped ships
they talk about it like a cigar like
seen those and um I was listening cuz
you talking about building the
expectancy one day I was working and I
was just listening to UFOs stuff all day
while I'm driving and um I probably work
a 12- hour day but I'm coming home and
I'm in the home stretch I'm literally
like 20 minutes away from my house and
I'm going over this big bridge and I'm
I'm always looking up while I'm driving
cuz I'm like asking for a sighing and
I've seen this stuff while I'm driving
my truck I'm going over this bridge and
literally out of nowhere out of the blue
up in the blue sky these little black
lines appeared these straight black they
like bars and they were like 70 of them
in the sky I'm like what the heck and
I'm driving and I'm like looking at the
road and looking up and like what the
heck and all a sudden they spin and so
they went and they spent like this and
they showed they all did them did it
together and they were white orbs of
light really bright and then they went
back to black bars they didn't move they
weren't doing this they were all like
this and then they spent and it's like
they showed their glory and then they
cloaked they showed their glory and then
they cloaked and I'm driving like what
the heck man and then they just faded
away and I'm like what the heck when you
see that like what does that do for you
you know what I'm saying like for me I
could listen you hear I got albums you
know and books and podcast change your
life man definitely it's like you can't
go back to business as usual after an
experience like that it wasn't a dream
it wasn't I didn't imagine it you know I
mean I would hope not driving n man fall
asleep on the like you it enough and it
shows itself to
you that's something else have you ever
tried like filming any of these things
I've heard of people like trying to film
them some people do yeah some people do
um I want a pair of night vision goggles
to take out because a lot of people
that's what they say they use yeah a lot
of people use the Generation 3 night
vision goggles and they put a camera up
to it and like they're seeing fleets of
UFOs like traveling outside of our
atmosphere like in formation that looks
like something that you would see
fighter jets fly in you're like outside
of our there's so much stuff you can see
um with that um I tried to film it one
time one of the most beautiful
experiences I had I like I kind of
panicked or whatever cuz it was like oh
wow this is happening and I tried to run
in my truck and get my cell phone but
trying to film a star on my cell phone
it just no way that it would whatever
yeah I tried to do it on my cell phone
and it kind of pulled me out of the
experience that I was trying to capture
it which was an interesting thing too um
yeah
they don't my apologies I've even heard
that they don't uh like some of these
things don't want to be seen like the I
was uh researching some stuff about skin
walker Ranch and how you know uh you
know investigative teams have gone out
with cameras to see these things and
things will still happen but they'll
happen off camera like right off camera
or you know like they don't want to be
seen you know yeah um James gillin with
eetti ranch EC TI I've had him on the
show a couple times I found his work
early on too right after Prophet Yahweh
and stuff but they they have a lot of
really interesting stuff
filmed um and they they do it like he's
in uh Trout Lake Washington at Mount
Adams and and they believe which is
interesting uh there's stuff coming in
and out of um um the mountain there
there's like portals and stuff that
opens up inside the mountain and these
big balls of light come out and fly
around and go back in and um so much
crazy stuff they've seen yeah they've
seen a lot of crazy stuff and then like
beckon is like the whole Mountain thing
but that's where Jesus was you know
whenever he uh you know encountered you
know Moses on the mountain like
encountering aliens he would meditate on
top of the mountains I mean when you
look at Eastern tradition they go inside
of a mountain or cave or on top of one
you know the top of the Himalayas and
stuff and so interesting stuff with
energy these energy points uh with with
mountains and and you know so much stuff
man you think that has anything to do
with like pyramids cuz I mean like the
mountain has that pyramid shape that
natural organic shape I don't know that
pyramids have that uh you know they like
give off a certain energy and things
like that so yeah yeah pyramid energy
for sure I mean what with the pyramids
were the Pyramids of Giza I believe it
is um are in direct alignment with Orion
right or Bel and one thing I like
about I know right one one of the things
that I like right now about out is that
um in the next couple months as well
Orion will be directly above us we'll be
able to see Sirius and Orion directly
above us and so when you're meditating
and you're praying I believe Orion is is
literally where Heaven is there's like
the inside of the hsee head Orion Nebula
there are stars that are being born and
coming out of it like stuff so um Ellen
G Ellen G white who is a like a prophet
woman from the um seventh day of Venice
wrote about how these Visions she had
about the New Jerusalem coming out of or
the Orion and when you do research on
Orion Horsehead nebula uh really
interesting U stuff there so it's one
thing about meditating now and just
meditating on the stars and trying to
connect and Sirius and Orion it's going
to be right above us you know the next
couple months so really cool I'll
definitely put that on my list that's
that's crazy man so the mountains
things coming out of the mountains it's
it's so interesting because you always
hear like uh the mystics are on the
mountain you know like they're they're
up at the top of the mountain you have
to climb the mountain to get to this
Guru and know the Himalayan Mountain
talking about L was at the top of the
mountain Mount Si a god L that lived at
the top of the M god I didn't even I
wasn't even thinking about that you have
the whole story of Moses going up on uh
was it Mount S I think he went up on 40
days and 40 nights just that whole
experience and this man came down
when he was fasting in the desert too
you know like just going going away
like so my my big thing was like I you
know I was having these encounters by
myself how do I get other people to come
in because the energy is different right
their expectancy is off you know some
people want to talk or drink or hold on
like this has to be you got to like make
this like no you cuz you know people are
going to say it's you were drunk or
you're drinking or you guys are smoking
so like I had all these different people
that would take out with me and um
the energy is really for me it was
different it's uh CU I could go out and
see so much but then like you know if it
it has it has to have some kind of um
repeatability to it you know yeah um so
you hear like a different etiquette of
of things that people would have these
sightings and and different things with
the energy and the expectancy of
everybody they would talk about if one
person's energy was off then it could
throw the whole thing off you know of
you creating this this vortex to see
this to have this ex uh experience um
this invocation if you will of communing
with the Angelic putting those thoughts
out there asking God the Holy Spirit if
they're out there can we see them let us
get ourselves right let us go with them
for me there was still even early on
some of that fear stuff from watching
the abduction videos and you know
hearing all of those crazy stories and
stuff so when a big scripture that
helped me early on was the one where it
says that if you ask your heavenly
father for a fish he will not throw you
a serpent if you ask him for a loaf of
bread he's not going to give you a stone
so here I am under the night sky a
little scared a little what are you
doing man you might you might get
abducted bro what are you doing you know
there's those things and um but I'm like
you know what if I ask to see one of the
messengers one of the Elohim the the ELO
um if I ask to see one he's not going to
going to you know let a demon come
abduct Me you know what I'm saying or
whatever the case is so as far as
building your faith and Renewing Your
Mind to you know your Consciousness that
you know that your conscience will be
cleansed that there will be no doubt so
that's the doubt oh they're going to get
me oh I'm it might not happen like all
of that stuff messes up your energy from
creating that experience for yourself so
knowing who you are knowing that you're
going to see
expectancy I talk with a friend of mine
we were planning a trip to go out and do
a C5 and and go under the the stars and
camp out and uh I talked to my friend
and he wanted to see it and stuff and uh
another guy was with me he had seen him
before and so I'm just building my
friend's faith faith up I'm like hey
you're going to see it bro trust me I
know you ain't never had it you're going
to have it happen and all that we ended
up calling into a radio station together
and we taled talking to this lady the
guest because she was talking about UFOs
and we're like yeah we're doing a trip
and we we'll call you and let you know
what we see and I remember his
expectancy was out the roof he wanted to
see and he believed it and I did too and
so we go out there and uh we camping and
stuff then we're doing some chanting
we're chanting some Ms and we're playing
drums and Bongos and really just getting
that energy just right and um within an
hour that we seen 12 there was this
window of of time where we seen 12
all flying and um it everybody like was
the minds were blown he's seen it you
know wanted it but after that hour we
didn't see anymore and we stayed out
there pretty much all night but but it's
about connecting right it's not you had
the experience and wow and then
connecting with with the guys who were
out there I will say with that
experience something that was really
interesting is that we're camping out we
we open this portal if you will we're
able to see them I don't know what
happened but we seen them um we wake up
the next morning to a
um helicopter hovering just above the
trees right above us and had a bar going
across the front and it's spraying
chemicals on us and he's we make eye
contact with the dude because the doors
open he's laughing and he's spraying
chemicals on it we wake up and we're
like what the hell it's like like hey
and it smells bad and wait hold on yeah
what yeah so you guys went out this camp
just just you two you see this thing in
the sky cuz I'm trying to wrap my head
around this the three of you guys you
see 12 of them and the next day you wake
up you got Uncle Sam legit flying over
you laughing while he's po like spraying
we're looking what are you doing he's
laughing and spraying chemicals on us
there's this big bar yep wow never heard
of so that's
crazy yeah
that's that's nuts what do you what do
you do about something like
that I don't know man it was talking
about having a weird experience you know
that night and then that morning like we
woke up to that you know and we was just
like hey man we had to we were like
trying to get all the tents and
everything and and trying to hurry up
and like you
and our clothes and stuff dude I didn't
know what what he was doing I don't I
don't know like is it a is it a
coincidence that he you know he's
spraying the what are the odds you know
the forest you know and um but the fact
of him laughing and just hovering right
above us in this little opening is just
insane like um what do the odds come on
want to get I don't know I don't know
you tell me you know but you do I will
say this James Gillan and those guys
talk about when they have a lot of UFO
activity you have black helicopters show
up black helicopters will show up um to
see what what people are doing um H I
have I have I I was I was given this
download um years ago when I was driving
through the hills of Georgia and um or
the country of Georgia driving out in
the country open field Hills and so um
I'm driving and again I'm looking you
know all day while I'm driving because
once this is brand new that you
couldn't I'm I'm eating dinner with
family and I'm looking up you know what
I'm saying like that's how real it was
for me
um so I'm driving through Georgia and uh
I look and I see this Jet and as soon as
I see the jet it's flying I got the
download that said he's coming to scare
us away those Jets come out here to to
scare UFOs out of the
sky and so when I did I looked at the
jet then I looked over in across the sky
directly where the jet was heading was
during the day this orb in the sky and I
looked at it I was like oh wow you're
right it was going flying across right
to it and it allowed me to see it and it
just blinked and went
away wow so it's like it told me this is
what's happening these jets are trying
to fly over here to us to intimidate us
to make it where people can't see us or
whatever it flew over there then it
cloaked and went away so I'm like oh wow
really really interesting because the
thought the telepathic thought came to
me while I seen the Jet and then I
looked over and was headed towards the
UFO or the Chariots ifo identified
flying object yeah yeah they got these
new words for them like aerial anomaly
and stuff like this yeah yeah you know
it makes me think about the um that uh
Stargate program that they were doing in
the I think it was a CIA or something
like that I it's like the remote viewing
thing and how they would say that they
were seeing aliens as well too it's like
oh yeah we see all this stuff we know
aliens are what we see them yeah this
just it's nuts man uh I haven't had too
much experience with remote viewing or
anything like that but in like
respect to aliens and things like that
you said that they have like this
ability to transfer to people like these
psychic abilities and things like that
do you have any experience with that um
I tell you who does who she's wrote a
couple books on it I had her on my
podcast but um my God now there's
another name drop here we go I know I'm
dropping all these name now I can't
think of her name somebody give me her
name y'all come on I'm tripping my guest
you guys are supposed to do this my chat
will usually help me the little old lady
um who God I had her on Mary Rodwell hey
Mary Rodwell she's big into this but
yeah she's big into it so I talked to
her a lot about and she she literally
she works with uh people who were um who
were having this stuff happen and even
um as a doctor uh you know and um but
yeah check her out I'll say that it ties
in like ET as well remember the movie ET
to where like Elliot and ET were
connected and he would have all he would
be able to know what was going through
and when ET was drunk he got drunk you
know you're connected with these I'm to
watch that
mov um yeah he ended up connecting with
ET and so when ET was about to die and
uh Elliott's in in the hospital fixing
the dieet like everything that ET went
through because they were connected uh
he started going through but um yeah a
lot of people you just naturally and for
me I think it's like again the like the
creativity and inspiration that is
imparted after having a sighting or an
Angelic experience what that it unlocks
within your DNA of what is possible and
that heaven is real and God is closer
and the angels are closer than just the
place that we go when we die literally
they're traveling back and forth from
Heaven to Earth and so for me I think
that having that encounter and seeing
those things like organically unlock
things within your your DNA about what
is real and you start looking for it and
you start seeing it and then trying to
reproduce it so I think naturally it it
um opens up those doors to the psychic
abilities and stuff as well you start
looking into that stuff telekinesis and
because that's how they communicate
telepathically you know what I'm saying
so you start right yeah can I
communicate can I send the thought back
to them like will they hear me when I
talk or do I just need to be nonverbal
you
know yeah I think I think it would work
both ways I'd hear you when you talk and
and uh especially like telepathically
and like if you look into just like
neurology and how the brain works like
thoughts are frequencies like our brain
works at a wavelength that we can alter
through meditation and um like thoughts
are sent like through that wavelength
and so it's it's really interesting just
to think about uh because a lot of
people say like there's a lot of science
behind aliens and you know the Bob Lazar
documentary he talks about like uh
Element 115 and um you know this this
gravity propelled like UFO and things
like that so it's just it's an
interesting dichotomy you know I'd like
to I'd like to sit down with an
alien and figure out you know how
exactly they do what they do and what
what exactly is going on yeah um I wrote
about it in my book too but James Gill
and one of his big stories that kind of
rocked me he um was at home meditating
and he would he would make contact UM
through through meditation and so he's
he's communing with these beings through
meditation right um he can tell you who
they were or whatever but he's having
this experience and then his sister
comes home
and she runs in the house and get takes
him out of the meditation James James
what come look outside there's UFO right
above our house so he's in meditation
communing with these beings that are
hovering above the house in a
UFO and then she she's like come on she
comes out she like what are you doing in
here she like I know it's like ah you
know just just hanging with the guys you
know just chat yeah so little stories
like that again they build your faith
and I've it's a allowed me to experience
that stuff you know of wanting to see it
I've had them come over my house and
I've had so many you know um experiences
Susie here in chat says same with me
UFOs uh blink and went away two times uh
it says they they blink and and allow
you to see them and then they go away I
know that's the weird thing because it's
like as soon as you see it then it's
gone but it but it stays there enough to
allow you to see it or to get you to
look over and then it's gone gone so
that's um really interesting a buddy of
mine he he sees them a lot and um they
they kind of work off of that they all
low him to see them and they go away and
you see a lot of stuff out there you
know you're looking for one thing and
the longer you stay you start seeing
other stuff you know yeah there's so
much out there and that's a big part of
like um um space force that whole thing
oh gosh Trum space force is now a branch
of the military they police yeah so that
should tell you something um definitely
yeah but I I'll tell you this the bad
guys aren't out there the bad guys are
here man for sure those those people
running our country politics aside
they're not good people man they Feed Us
fake food they spray us with gases and
chemicals in the middle of the morning
you know like as far as like the good
guys the good guys are out there they've
been here the whole time they've been
here since the beginning since we were
prehistoric man since since we were
unevolved they've had technology and
they've been here watching our Evolution
and our process and and all of that so
um they are the they are the Angels of
the Bible they are the Angels and and
all of these other uh texts that have
very similar stories they've been here
so they're not trying to kill you
they're not a threat you know our
government is a threat our you know
these these people oil is a threat you
know what I'm saying there's a lot of
things that that we have access to that
our government is keeping us away from
and so when it comes to who is good and
who is evil I I I make sure I talk about
in my music as much as I can like only
good things come from above like Jesus
said focus on the things that are above
the things down here are temporary but
the things up there are Eternal like
that you're literally as you're
stargazing you're literally gazing into
Heavens you're gazing into the heavens
so you would say aliens
are uh Angelic messagers is like that's
the translation my yeah my my study my
experiences for sure um they're not bad
you know um I think we're at war with
them um because you know we're bad like
you know there's a part of us that are
that that's demonic even you know it's a
fallen nature that we have and some
people have totally given over to that
Fallen side of of of their Humanity um
we have to choose every day what side
that we want to feed that we want to
walk in the spirit and be good and and
do good and things like that we have to
tell ourselves not to not to do bad and
stuff so there are people the elite
somebody Susie says that have chosen the
path of Darkness secret societies and
orders and have made uh packs with
ancient gods you know Fallen deities and
all of these things that that is not
good stuff they are still we're getting
dark they offer blood sacrifice you know
what I'm saying there's a lot of stuff
that they get into that is deep and dark
and demonic and is real and the people
that we're getting to pick and vote from
right now I think are involved in this
stuff and they always have been skull
and bones all of these sacred orders and
you know being birthed into that I'm not
going to get too too much into that
because I don't want to get dark but the
angels are out there gets dark man yeah
the angels are out there for sure and
and they will say hello they'll they'll
say hello for sure definitely glad you
put me out of that I'll be doing that
for sure take some time it's just like
when you get activated to a new type of
thinking it's like you didn't know it
was possible it's like the the 4minute
mile in the Olympics nobody knew it was
possible till somebody did it and then
all the other Runners did it it's it's
one of those things it's like this is
possible and then you're like H it is
and then you start to experience it
yourself you just open yourself up to it
you know so that's that's some
interesting stuff I've also heard this
uh concept about aliens having created
like the ancient human like you know way
back you know they're the reason why we
broke off from you know monkeys and
things I'm not a a believer that idea
but it's just something that like you
talking about like a slave race or
whatever yeah like that idea like they
like they created us to you know mind
gold from the earth and you know because
it Powers their ships something yeah
like all this other stuff I I tell you
what I believe that the truth is right
it's somewhere in the middle um not that
we're created as a slave race um but I
but I will say the elite at the top of
the food chain we we're a slave race to
them like they're different than us they
are not the same as us that their minds
don't work the same um they we are
different you know people talk get into
the dark stuff if that's where you
headed adrenal Chrome and all that stuff
like those people are different than us
we're not the same they may look like us
but they're not us 100% and uh when you
get into the Scriptures it talks about
how um the seed of the woman would be at
War and he put emity between the seed of
the serpent so there's this serpent seed
right um so there are the bad there are
bad guys there literally are people who
do not have your greatest intentions in
mind their entities and their people who
are in contract with those entities
let's say that um but as far as the slav
race thing and and and and throwing the
dart somewhere in the middle I do
believe in Zachariah sit and talking
about how we are created by the gods the
gods being the the Elohim the L um that
when God created man he sent his Elohim
servant Angels down here to seea us and
to guard Over the Garden you know the
angels that and and and have us here so
he created us but he sent the Elohim
down here to do that so in zachari sit
and all that stuff when you read it it
says and he's a big proponent I'm going
to have a guy on the show recently they
just reached out to me wrote a whole
book on this but uh Jordan Maxwell is
big on this too but um it talks about in
the beginning the uh the gods created
mankind cuz when you read that when you
read that scripture there the the word
is Elohim anytime you put he on
something IEM is it's plural if you have
the seraphim that's an order of angels
you would have one sarap right you would
have um the cherubim the rfim the
malakim these are all different orders
of angels and so when it comes down to
the gods or the word that we have there
translated back to Hebrew it's the it's
Elohim the Elohim the ELO or the L were
the Creator beings or these Angelic
entities that are are watching over us
now they have God Yahweh the Lord of all
of creation that they answer to and
they're in tune with they are they work
directly with him and so that's who the
people who serve the light most
Christians Christianity right it is the
US of the Bible you know the story right
you know most of this stuff so they're
the gods so when you again reading uh
that that God created Man In His Image
it says the gods and it say and also
says it's a conversation because it says
let us make man in our image who is the
US that's what you need to find out the
big thing is who is the US Christians we
will'll explain that well that's easy
Father Son and Holy Spirit right they
were talking triun God y they were
saying let us make man but that's not it
cuz you you actually see the us because
they came down in Genesis 19
they came down and it says the Lord
communed and actually ate and SED with
Abraham and so there's always this us
the tower Babel let us confuse their
language is that Jesus and the Holy
Spirit and God no this is the the L the
Elohim and so the truth is a little bit
there in the middle I'd say research the
anunaki research sitchin research the
the the counterpart to that which is um
um Dr Michael Heiser who has a website
sitching is wrong.com but he's really
big on the Divine counsel of the Elohim
being these gods or these beings that
were over different parts of the earth
that God ordained to be there but then
he feels like some of them be became
corrupted and started doing bad things
with Humanity forcing people to worship
them that's where you get Baal that's
where you get Azeroth and these other
gods out of the Old Testament that were
like Destroyer like demonic gods of the
other nations
so uh but the Divine Council of the
Elohim they believe to be these this
order of angels um so I believe the
truth to be right in the middle of of a
little bit of all of it you know of that
they seated us here but they are working
directly with God not the Demonic um
type of you know slave race if anything
those are our leaders man and in the end
when when all everything happens
whatever battle of Armageddon or this
transference of power the gods come back
M they come back to judge the wicked to
sever the wicked from among the
righteous and they're going to deal
treacherously with these people who have
been doing wickedness in the earth and
uh and they're they are a different
being like they're not even like us man
at by by any means and they're in
entertainment they're
in at all the high high levels so all of
that stuff the gods the ELO the Elohim
communicating with them asking to see
them like they're there but they answer
to the Supreme Spirit of Yahweh which is
in everything right we we call it Yahweh
right he his name is I am which is a I
am that I am yeah and which means I'm
everything and anything that you need me
to be you know if you can believe it I
am that you know it is everything it is
that war it is in all of this stuff he
created it it it exists because he
allows it so it's such a freeing concept
like I am it's like I'll meet you where
you're at like I you know I can be
whatever you need me to be that's that's
great and and you know it kind of
illustrates the hierarchy of uh like the
Angelic realm and that's something that
you don't really get a lot of in like a
traditional Christian Circle it's just
it is just the Elohim would be described
as Father Son and Holy Ghost and uh you
know so you'd miss out on like the the L
and things like that yeah and this is
like a lot of the this is the first time
hearing of a lot of this so I've got a
lot of research to do supplementary to
this but uh it made it real for me man
because I I have some I have some
Christian friends and they get in they
watch agent aliens and they hear this
stuff and it it trips them up oh man
we're created by aliens Jesus wasn't
real you know and all this kind of stuff
I'm like no that is always what they go
to yeah it makes more real that I can go
out and say hey where you at man I need
you I need to see you where you at here
we are not everybody can do that I say
not everybody can do I think if you give
yourself enough time it may take you
four months it may take you four weeks
it may you may immediately you may see I
don't know I don't think that I'm
special I don't think that you know
whatever I think any it is repeatable
for anybody you just got to give
yourself enough time and and if you want
it bad enough you'll get it you'll see
it you'll experience those things if you
don't you'll go upon you go go living
life as as as usual as normal the
interesting thing for me is a slap in
the face because it's been there the
whole time and all you had to do was
look up yeah all of this
all you had to do was look up but we've
been so focused on looking around us
we've been so Earthly minded so self
absorbed that creativity the imagination
the heavens being something that's real
because most people think that heaven is
somewhere you go when you die yeah you
know Heaven is not like a literal Place
past the Stars you know just changing
your thinking to that just opens up a
whole new thing oh it's a place that I
can get to it's something real yeah how
do I get there then we go to your
channel astral travel astral projection
Spirit travel then we we get into uh we
get into moving the the spirit and you
know allowing the holy spirit to guide
you and things like that that's that's
interesting like you so often the
doctrine is Heaven is after this life
you know everything comes after you you
have fun after this life uh he like no
you can you can enjoy the things of the
spirit now in this life and that comes
with the aliens that comes with the uh
the understanding and the wisdom and the
mystical
experiences well they'll tell you not to
look in look into this stuff ah you just
you look into that or Christians can't
look into that I'm like you want to bet
there are people who like trust me my
going back and forth in the church is
like you can't talk about this you can't
do a podcast you can't you know all this
kind of stuff but um I'm like you want
to bet I'm really I'm I'm genuinely into
this stuff and you and people Christians
or the world needs to hear I say a
Christian voice
like what the hell is a Christian you
know what I'm saying I follow I follow
Christ I follow love you know I'm a
devote of the Lord Jesus Christ
like you're going to find new age uh
teachings on this you're going to find
people who hate God you're going to find
their teachings on Aliens like come on
like who should we talk listen to but I
guess they do have that but in Christian
them it is all anti it is be careful be
scared stay away from those things but
um we're here to change the game man and
show them that all those things that
you're into are in you for a reason God
is drawing you to it God was drawing me
to research all this stuff research
crystals and I'm drawn to crystals I can
hold crystals and I can feel energy oh
snap hold two different crystals in my
hand and feel a different type of energy
we're the same person man what are you
talking about and the church is like no
yeah that's demonic that's demonic what
are you talking about yeah so um God put
those things in you for a reason it's in
your DNA your ancestor operated and even
the the ancestors that you're grafted
into maybe even the hebraic roots and
that those traditions of the faith that
you received as a Christian they were
into that stuff too but they're telling
you stay away from it look the the
Israelites had crystals and gems and
emeralds they had one that represented
each tribe there were a different color
there were topaz they're all different
things and when you put these you can
have a crystal grid we got cryst I got a
crystal grid behind me wife didn't the
high priest wear on crystal grid on
their on their breastplate that allowed
them to change their vibrational
frequency to become in tune to speak to
God change their vibrational frequency
and people say well that's what they
needed because they didn't have Jesus
like we're not supposed to deal with
that like yeah whatever I don't know
like this there's there there's always a
reason to stay dumb and blinded man them
dude man I get into it all bro they had
they had two rocks you know about the
irum and the th thumin they had these
two rocks that the high priest carried
in their bag and it was a means of
divination that if they Came Upon A
matter and and and they didn't know what
to do they would ask God and God
wouldn't part the clouds he wouldn't
tell them in their Spirit like they
reached in a bag and they pulled out one
of these two rocks and it was either yes
or no should we go south or north I'm
really I really want to go north but I'm
feeling South North boom we're going
north guys it is the will of the Lord
they believed it more than anything it
was a righteous thing that the div
divination is the Divine speaking to
Mankind and their forms and their things
that they would have jewels so much
don't even talk about Divination in most
churches man
they'll they'll fire right there man and
that's what they did that's what they
did as as recent in the Bible is acts
they cast lots to see who would go out
on the you know before they had the Holy
Spirit brother
no no this is after this is after they
were casting lights in the book of Acts
you know this is after the Holy Spirit
and so they they still did these things
but if you bring divination up in a
normal Church they'll they'll kick you
out of there man they'll run you out
with pitchforks yeah but like that's a
way to get in contact with your guardian
angels with you know your higher self
it's like I don't know what to do now
you know I usually use uh pendulums and
you know it's like you know what do I do
here you know you know some stuff like
that it's just just they they narrow
their their focus you know I want to
make my own I want to Brand my own but I
have a a deck of tarot cards they're
called the tarot of the most high
they're like I guess the close the
closest you can get to a Christian Tarot
deck I have friends of mine who who
practiced this and we done some shows
with them and uh they go out into the
psychic fairs and they give prophetic
readings and they're seeing lives
changed man they're just saying yes to
the call you know and they're taking
these Technologies back but um these
have scriptures on them and um and
although although they have the the
tarot uh uh suits or whatever they'll
call it at the bottom yeah they also
have uh like different words at the top
righteousness on this one
communication um they have different
words and so I remember ordering these
and not being trained in Tarot but I am
trained in a prophetic I am trained at
listening right and so this is how these
work is off of your intuition even the
the cards like knowing how to read the
card but knowing how to deliver that
message that etiquette of how put two
and two together remember doing um uh I
was a answering the phone A friend of
mine had a uh a psychic show that she
did on Wednesday nights and she hired me
to uh answer the phone lines but they
would always like me to come on and pray
for people like somebody would say hey
would you like tra to pray for you and
she' give them a py read and i' come on
father I ask you to bless them Lord open
up and I I get things for people I give
them words and stuff and so I use these
cards and I didn't tell them cuz I know
like a lot of people would on a doing a
reading they pull the card we got this
card and what this means for you is that
you're going to step into this and now
you have it with this one you know
that's how they would do it I I got this
deck and I wanted to try it for the
first time so we're taking these calls
and I'm just like I'm praying I'm in the
spirit right while I'm taking the calls
and I'm pulling cards they're they're
calling like um saying something like um
you know I I'm in a a going through a
divorce with my husband been and he
never told me what it was and and you
may be able to feel it in your spirit
but I pull a card in it may say like
infidelity boom and the card was exactly
what they were going through or or it be
somebody else who is calling like yeah
I'm trying to um and I would pray and
minister to that it wasn't just sayy we
identified it I would Minister to it
that's how I would pray other people
would call in and be like um uh you know
I'm going through some things with with
my daughter my daughter our relationship
isn't isn't that well and I'm just
needing some help I'm needing some
advice and I would pull a card and the
card would say
restoration and I would say okay that's
it to dealing with this situation you
need we're going to speak restoration
God I bless him with restoration father
I thank you that you are the restorer of
all things father Spirit of restoration
just to move upon them and I would just
like intuitively work with the
Divination you know and uh but but being
able to interpret it and and talk to the
Lord through it because that's what it
was created to do and so that you know I
first did that for the first time and
then the next day I posted online I was
like cuz I still was like kind of had a
lot of Christian friends or whatever I
was like yeah man I just use my you made
a lot of people mad yeah they're like
you can't do that I was like listen let
me get the scriptures together because
I'm doing trust me I sought the Lord on
this let me give you the scriptures on
it cuz I got all the scriptures on how
every they all use divination and
casting lots and all that but it's just
above above their heads you know it's
just Doctrine man yeah people get caught
up in Doctrine they can't go anywhere
past it you know have an experience and
someone told me uh a long time ago I
can't remember who may have been a
pastor from somewhere but he was like uh
when it comes to mysticism and
spirituality everything that Satan or
the devil has or these evil entities
have that they're using it was
originally like something of light
they've just Twisted it and changed it
so it's like we have access to like
these Technologies like you're saying
these techniques Were Meant For Us to
use in the first place y you know but
now we've gotten to a place where we
don't use them so we're at a
disadvantage because we think they're
inherently evil but it's a tool it's a
tool depending on how you use it yeah
that's all they are they're all tool
prayer is a tool all right you know you
use it the right way you can pray to
Demons good or bad you can pray to beab
ask beab to show you who he is and speak
to you at night like you can pray to him
he used to pray to Satan like that's a
tool that's prayer is not good or bad
it's neutral just like divination
fasting t is like you can I mean a lot
of people even in the churches are using
these tools for bad reason they're using
it for filthy lcer self selfish gain
they don't care about the people their
heart's not in it anymore they just know
how to do it preaching is a tool they
use preaching into your own demise they
know how to get a a a donation out of
you you know what I'm saying they know
how to make you give like you know I was
I that was just clip somebody shared
this preacher he was like talking about
the book of Acts and when a mighty
rushing wind came when they were all in
the same building and he was saying that
the uh the uh the measure of that that
came through was dependent upon the size
of that building and he was like we need
a bigger building I was like this dude's
getting ready to take an
offering get out of
here H they'll twist anything man and
that's one of the things I'm not a big
fan of like the mega churches though I
realize a big church needs a big amount
of money obviously but like some of
these dudes are are just uh Crooks man
they're cruxs you just got to be honest
man you can't don't be tricking people
like listen yeah it takes a lot of money
if y'all like what we got going on
listen we need you to give like support
us but I'm not about to make every
message about giving money come on now
we got better things to talk about they
really mess up when they talk about how
you know you're going to be cursed if
you don't give that you owe God this and
if you don't give it Oho man you better
be careful like cuz God's going to take
it from you that was the teaching we
were under and uh and they they they
knew how to say it without saying it
they could teach it without but some of
them come out and straight up say it
like they'll come out hey God's going to
take it from you you know I had my car
broke down and I had this happen and
that happened it was God I owed God cuz
we were struggling back terrible
teaching man man we were struggling dude
and every bad thing that we happened in
our lives guess guess what it was
because of what we said cuz we didn't
pay our tithes we owed God and so we had
like we get paid but we only had enough
money to pay our bill and get groceries
and then we'd say man we owe God $100
like we'll pay it next week we'll pay it
next week next week came and it was so
we owe God like
$600 we were taking we we wanted to pay
it we believed that this was a Godly
thing and we owed it but we couldn't pay
it so every time like we started like
bringing like attracting bad things in
our lives like our washing machine broke
car broke down doors are slammed in your
face it's like oh this is God rewarding
me cuz I owe them come on man that's
demonic that's witchcraft bro straight
up
that's that's a terrible teaching it's
because it gets you locked up in like
this God is a tyrant like I can't go to
him now like you know I have no access
to him right like he's pissed that I
haven't paid him his money he's a my
boss man is he's com to collect yeah
send the boy after me to get his money
come on now that's a terrible way to
live break your legs yes I'm breaking
your kneecaps for this money man it's a
terrible way to yeah man it's a that's a
big one it's a big
one hate that a huge one for a lot of
people yeah that's that's one of the
things that's why I said before it's
like I was blessed not to have a lot of
money so it's like oh you know I'll give
what money I have because it's not much
it's it doesn't matter in this case you
know you you want you want my few bucks
here you go man you have it hey God to
deal with you on that few dollars though
cuz I really believe that like if he can
trust you with that few dollars he'll
he'll make it more you know and uh for
me my biggest prophetic learning of
hearing his voice and saying no was with
$4 he told me to do something with the
four like the $4 that I had or whatever
but I had plans for that $4 I was going
to go get McDonald's after we left and
we're standing in line at uh at Walmart
behind this little old lady and she
literally had a banana and like three or
four canned goods and I we were going to
buy what we had and then the change
would be just enough to get get me a
hamburger and a little value meal and um
so standing in line and the Lord said
you need to pay for her her groceries
and I'm like only got $4 how I'mma pay
for her groceries and and get my burger
huh what and like I'm I'm I'm
rationalizing no I'm not going to do
that and I'm putting it out of my head
and pay for her you need to pay for her
groceries this little old lady and um I
kept like going back and forth like no
no I'm not doing it and finally she ran
they rang up her groceries and they told
her how much it was I think it was $4
and um and she said oh I I don't have
enough let me me I need to put this back
and she started taking canned goods
putting them back that she couldn't buy
and we're behind her in line and and I
sat there like oh my God like God has
told me this and now she can't afford it
I let her get her one canned good and
her banana and walk out the door and I
paid for mine and I walked out with my
head down and I told the people I with
me I said y'all I feel like I feel like
crap said why I said the Lord told me to
pay for that lady's you know it's $4
dude $4
and but it means a lot yeah there's a
trust issue you know obedience is better
than sacrifice man you know and um but
yeah the guilt that I felt which was
what we call grieving the Holy Spirit
right the guilt that I felt I was like I
don't never want to feel this again
because I beg God to use me use me Lord
Use Me Lord he's like all right let's
see what you do with this yeah
okay you don't you don't come through
would you want me to give you if I can't
trust you with $4 I can't trust you with
4,000 yeah if he could trust you with
the with the small things you know if
you can if you can prove that you can
handle these small matters he'll give
you more Y and uh yeah when it comes to
that like money was always an issue for
me when it came to spirituality but I
knew it was a matter of trust yeah and
uh trust that he would provide and I've
had plenty of times where I've needed an
exact amount of money and uh I've just
that money is just falling into my lab
or like a certain situation is open to
me uh it's like I feel like God wants me
to go on this trip and you know help
these people out do this missionary
thing but I don't have the money for it
like I don't have the means and the
means would fall into my lap without me
asking for it from like someone in the
world you know I pray for it and there
it is uh and it's like that trust should
let you know you have the abundance you
need now you can shower that abundance
on somebody else I got you now get
somebody else you know that sort of
thing it's the same thing dude it's the
same level of Faith to operate at that
$4 level or hey I need my light bill
paid which is 100 bucks to hey I'm going
to trust you with this guy until like
for us especially coming from a poverty
background and scarcity and lack and
those kind of things you have to you
have to start little because you don't
believe you don't even think you're
worthy of that $100 light bill being
paid you know or or whatever the case is
because you haven't tithed or you're not
you know you are a filthy cner whatever
it is that you believe um so you got to
work through those things but I found
that it's the same faith that it takes
to do the the little things the little
exploits um to do the big stuff too cuz
God needs people like doing big things
man and the more that he can trust you
with the more he'll give you like you
got to allow those finances to come to
you but you got to let it go through you
God has no problem bringing money and
wealth to you he has a problem of
getting it out of your hands and
allowing you to to to bless people let
it come to you and through you keep it
moving you need to put that on a shirt
yeah I didn't write it but uh I
definitely am teaching it for sure
because it's
true I get money to you I just can't get
it through you man I can't get it out of
you come on now you because you never
had it and now that you got it you're
like I can't lose it it's like oh man I
can't let this go exactly that that fear
of loss scar you're working in that
mindset and it just you know you're not
thinking on things above you're thinking
on the temporal things and and it messes
you up all together we start doing
stupid stuff with listen I'm telling you
my this year my money is my idea with
money has changed like selfworth and
what is money and like you know doing
like above and beyond tipping like
tipping our waitresses like crazy
amounts of money and just you know
making like
money it just
comes like I don't I've been without
money now I have money and like you know
is my relationship has changed with it
and and you it's a conscious thing again
at there's not enough to go around you
got to hold on to it why did you give
her that much money cuz you're going to
need that you gave her too much you know
it's like what shut up you know for you
to be able to operate listen there's
more coming God's going to bless it and
give me more so I can give give more out
you know and as long as I'm giving out
and I'm a good Steward with this money
don't be stupid with it you know but but
step out man dude God is into radical
giving dude for sure he he he gave us
the most radical precious thing ever his
son and so you know for God so loved the
world that he gave and so he loves to
see us give and bless people and go
above and beyond just like he did and
there is no scarcity he owns a cattle on
a thousand hills he's going to give you
above and beyond pressed down shaking
together and running over God will bring
give it to you the scripture says he's
given us the ability to gain
wealth I used to hate those scriptures I
used to rebuke and preach against
prosperity and preach against money and
Jesus was poor and a hippie and poor
righteous teacher and that was my life
trying to figure out how I'mma pay this
$100 light
bill you know um just going on faith
everywhere faith in $5 everywhere and so
you know there's level man there's
levels dude for sure and it's all in in
here it's in your Consciousness in your
relationship with God and with money and
with people you know yeah that I feel
like that's definitely an Awakening that
the body of Christ needs and just like
on an individual level is this idea that
like wealth isn't a bad thing it's just
how you use it and you know uh the Bible
says that you can't serve God and money
it's like money cannot be your God you
know but but it's important you have to
have it and changing your mindset from
one of lack and absence to a mindset of
like I can have this and like you know
filling your mind with positive things
this whole year for me has been a
reconditioning of my mind to say you
know fill your thoughts with positive
things I heard this amazing quote uh the
mind is like a field and you know a
field is blank you know it doesn't care
what you plant in it it's going to
produce what you plant in it you can
plant Nightshade in that field and you
can plant a flower in that field and
both of them will grow abundantly but
you have to choose what you plant and
it's the same thing about the kingdom is
like you have to plant those seeds like
you have to put forth your work because
in Harvest time you're going to get what
planet and you know when you change your
thinking to something more coherent
something more uh balanced and like with
the Light of Christ in mind like your
life reflects that in finance in health
in
relationships you know Jesus said I come
to give you life and life more
abundantly and I think that's in every
area like there's things that you have
to say no to because you don't have the
finances there's trips that you want to
take your family on that you just can't
afford and you and in your mind you'll
never be able to afford there's things
that you have to say no to there's
places that you cannot travel to and
experience this beautiful Earth that God
has given you and you can't because you
don't have the money and in your mind
you'll never have the money because the
bills are just too much I just my my
mortgage is too high oh my God I want to
like these weird reasons in your head
but money is nothing like it's only your
relationship with money and your
relationship with those Vacations or
allowing your family to see those things
like it it there's so much that goes
into it but um it's knowing that God
like God wants to you know show you
things show you the world man like you
want to go see what Italy looks like
then you should be able to go to that
even this conversation for a lot of
those people who are already there and
who have never had to work through that
it's funny to them but people who come
from poverty and come from lack and not
having nothing that's a big deal to be
able to take a trip to the beach for the
weekend with your family or take your
family to the mountains or to the Grand
Canyon can't afford that my my family
didn't do that we got lucky if we got a
a little cheap hotel room and folks
sleeping on the floor and got to go to
the beach like Flags man yeah that was
it you know God is you know we cuz we
have that relationship with God like we
have with our family you know that's
just what we pick up like if your F if
your parents were always getting on to
you and when you got in trouble you had
to hide from them like I remember like I
I feared my mom getting wh whipping all
the time like I got beat like if I got
in trouble I had to hide it from
her that comes from Adam you you know
what I'm saying but I mean it comes into
your relationship with God it's like
when I sin or when I'm in trouble I got
to try to hide it from God I hope he
don't see it or hope you don't find out
or whatever it's like hold on I got to
the scriptures teach me to bring
everything to him bring my concerns
bring my hopes bring my dreams my
Endeavors it tells me to Delight myself
in him so to get rid of that stuff of
God is this wrathful God or or is mad at
you or whatever that's not the gospel
Man At All gospel all who come man yeah
that you honestly have to to shift that
image and that's a lot of reason why I
feel like people don't pray and they
don't worship as often as they should or
get that alone time it's because they
think God is a tyrant yeah you know he
like he he he doesn't care about what's
going on with me he's too far away like
he's not as close as my skin like the
scripture says like you know he doesn't
know the numbers of the hairs on my head
you know stuff like that and it reminds
me of um this uh sermon Jam I used to
listen to I don't know if you know about
them sermon jams oh yeah I love them
from back in the day Paul Washer was in
a bunch of them back PA washer that was
the guy crying on the sermon Jam yeah
Paul Washer for sure them seron J but
they're good though man they're good
they carry the message and they got the
music and it's it's just inspiring
um uh what's his name I forget the guy's
name but there was one about like the
throne room and I think it was called
come up here the sermon jam and it was
talking about how there's this open
invitation from Heaven I think it was
Revelations 4 it was talking about and
how like that like the door to Heaven is
open and God is saying come up here you
know like have this experience like come
and know who I am because once you get
in contact with me and and you know you
you get in contact with this love and
this abundance it's going to reflect out
of you and you're going to pour it out
on everyone and um it's just awesome
sermon jams like that but you have to re
you have to recondition your mind to who
he is uh so much of our thinking today
is Jaded and twisted and we we really
don't know first off who we are let
alone who God is yeah and that's why I
like I like the scriptures man for me my
relationship it is universal law and it
goes well beyond that you know but and
and there's other materials that explain
it you know in in depth but like the
blessings of God and things like that
and uh who God says we are we're loved
we're righteous we're more than
conquerors you know um I started you
know started doing my my my guided
meditations and the ones that there are
some that are like really produced like
I'm taking you on a journey we're go the
throne room going to heaven and
you're meeting angels and I hired voice
actors to be the angels to come and say
you know talk to you or whatever and
it's really in depth and it was really
powerful for me to write I'm crying
writing most of this stuff and just in
this in this encounter and those are
awesome so then I started doing some
other ones that are just like scripture
uh uh meditations where just I'm just
reading scripture like I wrote all these
scriptures about healing and then
there's another where I I wrote all
these scriptures about finances and
about being blessed and in my mind I
like yeah those aren't going to be as
powerful as um you know this uh taking
you on this encounter as kids and people
that you're meeting and sound effects
and but um I'm I'm working on it and I'm
reading these scriptures and I'm
collecting the scriptures that I want
and I go to read them and I just feel as
I'm reading it I'm like oh my God I'm
just reading it's almost as powerful as
what I've already done like I'm having
an encounter just reading these
scriptures and knowing that as I'm
reading them that other people are going
to listen to to this and and get their
minds renewed and and step into you know
get those the stinking thinking out and
and um and I put those out and it's
beautiful I'm crying reading the
scriptures man you know recording that
and I'm looking and some of a lot of
them are free on on YouTube and stuff
and like uh 60,000 views and people like
I listen to this every morning people I
don't even know you know they found me
through Christian meditation or whatever
I don't and they listen to it every
morning and they said it's Ally changed
their life and it's like wow it's just
the power of the word the Bible says
faith comes by hearing and hearing by
the word of God the truth who you are
you're loved you're more than a
conqueror you're you're are righteous
you're are called God is for you not
against you like there's something about
those affirmations and we can do those
affirmations and we do that in our
speech we we don't have to even quote
the scripture we we do this in dialogue
with one another and building people up
and counseling and all of that kind of
stuff so it's just been a magical
experience man
definitely it it starts with Reinventing
yourself you have to you have to change
your image our image is yeah especially
for me I know personally my image was
terrible you know I felt like I deserve
the things that were happening to me and
I didn't know uh and I didn't feel that
like Assurance that yeah he's like I've
been everything's been cleaned like you
know God sees everything as forgiven
because of what Jesus did it's like it's
it's that clear like I'm good like I can
I can change like I can make things
better you know uh and it it changes
everything you have to start there it
has to be it has to start from within
before it before it comes out before it
emanates that's why I say I can't give
you if I don't possess it I can't give
it to you you know I can hope for you or
whatever but or pray for you or believe
for you that's one thing but I feel like
the things that we have we can freely
give as you freely receive you can
freely give it to people um and also
taking people on Journeys with these
Heavenly Journeys and meditation and
astral Realms and places in heaven that
you've gone to before you know how to
get back to so now you can take people
with you um you know the stargazing and
and seeing Angels or whatever the UFO
stuff like I can take people with me now
because I've been there now I have a map
on how to get back so um walking in an
abundance yeah everything everything
that you're walking in again hiring a
coach getting with a person whether
you're hiring or you just find someone
who's free whatever it is like getting
with somebody who's doing it find some
some who's doing what you want to do and
get with them learn from them whatever
you can here a little there a little you
know even if it's just listening to
their their stuff but getting in their
grits man being able to ask questions
and I mean that's why I do this podcast
you know cuz I was going through that
Awakening and having those crazy
experiences I couldn't go to people in
church I had to call in the podcast
shows hey man when you meditate man does
this happen what does this mean you know
and it's like it sucks that that that's
how it has to happen like man that's one
of the that's one of the main reasons I
made my YouTube channel is because like
before my mentor I didn't have anything
like I didn't know how to do this or
that and when I found him that's I was
like okay that's what this means this is
what happens when I meditate and I'm
seeing a different place and I'm just
suddenly there like this is what all of
that means and I was like I know that
there's a community of people who could
get and benefit from this information
yeah and so I just tell stories and you
know you know meditations and things
like that because people are hungry and
they don't get it in the church yeah I
feel like that's the amaz main reason
why a lot of people leave the church uh
not not Christ not God but they leave
the church body um and I've I've
definitely uh that was one of the main
reasons why I left is because I wasn't
getting that you know I was missing that
um that nourishment you know that
spiritual nourishment yeah yeah now what
is your what is your relationship like
with um the um the guy who who discipled
you and um taught you and everything are
do you also have a good relationship is
he out of your life have you gone off
the deep end cuz that that's my story
like my you know the people who I really
looked up to they like a lot of the men
in my life my dad these people who led
me to the Lord theyve they left they
like you know I don't know this thought
maybe that I I was too out there or I
got into other things that were
different than them and so they just
kind of like disowned me or whatever
same story dude they they they disowned
me so what about your relationship with
your your Elder and stuff cuz my guy
they probably even
I had a I had a beautiful encounter
recently where I linked back up with
this one the guy who discipled me and we
went to a big Christian Conference and
it was like Ryan Hart bony or like all
these everybody all the Todd White
everybody was there and I don't really
go to that stuff anymore but I went and
um there was this kid this dude looking
at me he wasn't a kid he was like early
20s but he was staring at me and I
looked at him I was like kind of he kind
of looks familiar
and um but I said I don't I don't know
that that's not who I think it is and so
I'm chilling out we're standing outside
and the guy comes up to me says hey
you're you're TR Seeker ain't you I said
yeah man he's like oh dude I can't oh my
God it's like I listen to your podcast
non-stop man I love what you're doing
and man and I didn't so it's weird
meeting people for me because I don't
know if they resonate or they're going
to rebuke me or whatever they who they
think I am but he was like man I really
love what you're doing it's changed my
life and he just start like giving me
these accolades stuff and the dude who
was kind of like he don't really
resonate with what I'm doing and he was
with me so he was able to hear this
total stranger come up and hear the
fruits of my Ministry and and what I'm
doing and stuff so for me it was like I
was like yeah this the dude who
discipled me man so he was able to to be
there and stuff and it was just a kind
of a magical moment for me and so like I
told you so aha God's got me kind of
thing um but for you man like what was
your relationship with your your Eld and
the guy who trained you up that's that's
an awesome experience thank you for
telling me that like it's it's it's very
inspiring for me uh my mentor we are
still we're still close not nearly as
close I mean he got married and you know
he's living somewhere else but we stay
in contact uh but I I totally get what
you're saying where people leave and you
know they they kind of back away from
you disown you he didn't necessarily
disown me but we had our fallings out or
falling outs you know um and and I feel
like it's a matter of outgrowing that
person I don't mean that negatively I
just mean they've learned a certain
thing and they've capped themselves off
in one way or another and you're
continuing to learn so they're going to
pull you down from learning that and
I've left churches for that you know
I've left people for that but with my
mentor uh it was just a matter of him
not you know being acquainted with the
tools and you know divination would be
like uhuh nah like it's one of those
things where he'd be like no no hush
that down crystals n meditation be
careful with that you know he's just not
as open about those things but at the
same time he has these experiences so we
were still able to connect that's why
we're still we're still on the same page
yeah you know what I think one thing
that's that's kind of I say good about
it the Lord uses all things again for
his you know for his glory and for your
good but it allows you to learn directly
from him you know so it's like hey I
know you this guy can only take you so
far I need you to come directly to me so
the prayer time and the going with him
cuz cuz you want it but you don't have
nobody you're looking for people you
gladly learn under people you gladly sit
under somebody who's willing to to teach
you who has a right Spirit right motives
and who's going to help cultivate it but
the things God wants to show you
nobody's going to resonate with that
stuff um even if they show you Grace
they still really can't help you they
can be there for you as a friend as a
brother but they really can't help you
so um you know we God has a way of using
that for for our good and teaching us
himself to learn directly of him cuz you
have to come to that that thing
eventually like where you're learning
directly from him anyway because only
because man can only take you so far and
then if we read in first John the Bible
says that that the spirit of God the
Holy Spirit teaches you all things and
you need not that any man teach
you it's the holy spirit that that that
is your teacher now he uses men he uses
everything um and that's you have to
train your ear to be able to see that
and know that but it if if it's a
concept that you're supposed to grasp
the holy spirit's got to Reve it to you
you're not going to get it I can't force
you to it I can't make you see it my way
you have to be you know the the stars
have to align you have to have been gone
through a certain thing in your life a
season to even know what what I'm
talking about you know what I'm saying
so that's the spirit that that lines all
that stuff up anyway um let's talk about
yoga man so see people in chat talking
about yoga I love yoga do you you do
yoga right now when I can when my you
know I I love it you know it brings me
into alignment and president in the
moment my body thanks me this I did a
little bit of Kundalini Yoga yesterday
that's my favorite definitely blending
the spirituality and the body movements
and we do that on our Retreats and stuff
just little little things that you can
do that are beautiful energy things
energy to flow through your body through
the breathing connecting with God and
the Holy Spirit through the breath um so
for me I love yoga some people are
saying and it's a Christian thing um
that that some of the poses were in the
shape of like demon Gods somebody said
demon Gods um you're letting demons into
your your body and things like that um
what have you heard I know you've heard
that but uh yeah especially with talini
yeah especially Calene like the serpent
Spirit like you're being possessed and
you know it'll keep you away from
something that I feel like is just
raising your energy vibration and you
know allowing energy to flow up your
chakras uh and I've actually been
practicing a uh cundalini meditation
recently uh where it's just like you're
flexing certain parts of your body and
you know breathing in and just allowing
that the energy to flow up to your crown
chakra uh and it's it's powerful
meditation like I've gotten quite a lot
from it uh but with anything you got to
start with uh that like admission of
your intentions it's like you know Holy
Spirit take me here it's like what do
you want to show me with this experience
you know you have to keep it um you got
to keep it focused you know really with
anything I've noticed uh it's like using
a Ouiji board for instance I don't think
there's anything wrong with that it's
just another form of divination it's
just what you intend to do with it and
if you don't have a clear intention
anything will talk to you if you don't
set boundaries anything will take
advantage of you and it's the same way
with yoga cundalini or any of these
other practices they're tools and if you
just you know if you just Willy nearly
run into them and you don't have a guide
or counselor like the Holy Spirit you'll
be led astray exactly so even yesterday
there's like there there's beautiful
Hindu mantras man I say Sanskrit mantras
um that that are deep you know we we
talk about um Namaste but talking about
Nam Nam sat
Nam sat n and I when I did the the Kini
yoga yesterday that's one of the the
mantras and way you kind of greet one
another with satnam or you start your
with satnam satnam is I am standing and
walking in my
Truth for the Christian what is that
satnam what is satam who is the truth
yeah Christ truth is a person a a Christ
of Love Of Honor at Oneness with all
beings the more you hold that magnifying
glass up to it the deeper and deeper it
gets satam I'm standing and walking in
my truth that's a beautiful
Mantra of that that we teach people and
um that are awesome and and they you
speak it out you speak that you're
declaring it it's a declaration come on
prophesying even if you're not satam I
declare that I'm going to stand in my
truth as of now I'm tired of being
pushed around I'm tired of uh my
identity changing depending on who I'm
around or who I'm learning from I need
to be in my truth and who you say I am s
now like it ain't just words man it gets
deep so um there's so much to it and um
the first time I did Kundalini yoga or
yoga they do some different Om namash
Shiva you know some some of the
different mantras and stuff that they
would say do sun salutation and mhm
stuff like that bring the energy in and
so like I'm my focus is Christ my focus
is the all the the one God behind even
if that was a god like even most Hindus
believe this like all of those so-called
Gods they're that's an emanation of the
one true God behind that what is Jesus
an emanation of the one true God what is
allegory in the Bible the teachings and
stories and characters of the Old
Testament there are allegories and in
emanations of the one so that's really
what they believe so um I did a lot of
that Kundalini Yoga early on and those
Pro as you're breathing in I'm I feel
the Holy Spirit doing this like come on
this is powerful in my body in my body's
thinking me so yeah um it's awesome
dancing in the spirit you know oh yeah
that's a good one a lot of stuff man
we're taking it back I'm trying to I'm
trying to thrust you don't be afraid of
anything man um cuz I see some people
coming in late they're asking about yoga
asking about raiki reiki's energy
healing U being able to push and pull
energy um you know blessing in it being
able to see it you know now there's
different schools of thoughts and
understanding that would teach you other
things but in general knowing how to uh
use energy and how to feel it how to
build your own energy and walk in
Integrity a lot of things that come
along with it you're able to feel push
and pull just a quick exercise really
quick you want to feel your energy take
your left hand hold it up
take your right index finger and your
pointy finger just hold them out and
hold it about two inches away from your
hand move it in a circle and see if you
can feel
it it's harder to feel it on the other
because you push with your right it's
the positive the left is the negative
polarity so you're able to push with the
right and you can feel it see how far
back you can go and direct that energy
sometimes you can feel it on back a
little way you can feel it on your hand
this is you you're able to feel the
energy your aric field as they call it
Peter's Shadow healed that's his aric
field touched them they got close to
him charged so energetically
charged that's one stuff raiki is cool
stuff it's uh I use a lot of raiki just
for I do a lot of energy work just to
keep my chakras open and just moving
energy throughout my body yeah raiki is
just uh just understanding energy just
uh just understanding your own energy
most of and there's an interesting
practice at least with the raiki that
I'm learning uh because I'm under a
master now and um they're teaching me
something called choay okay and it's
just like a universal frequency it's
just like divine presence of God it's
just like the energy of the Holy Spirit
but that's the way they say it and you
just let this energy in through your
crown chakra and then you direct it out
and it's supposed to be the raiki
frequency so it's a really cool stuff
it's just a lot of it is just vernacular
you know y 100%
different uh religions will say
different things but they mean the same
thing yeah you know it's the same
experience yep 100% And we don't like
that because you know we feel like we
have a a corner on the market it's not
astral projection brother that's demonic
it's Spirit
travel it's like come on
dude the same thing man so I would talk
about Chi somebody somebody mentions Chi
pranama Kundalini Holy Spirit takon in
Egypt like it's called many different
tachon that sounds very cool tachon
energy um the force in Star Wars listen
the same it's all the yeah it's the same
thing no it's not it's different keep
beling that blasphemy yeah you got to
step into it man I'm telling you it'll
blow it changes everything because it it
it what it does is like we feel like in
Christian like God only deals with
certain people or God only loves certain
people or God you know when you read the
the prophecy in The Book of Joel where
God said I will pour out my spirit on
All Flesh he did that man he did yes and
he's doing it but on All Flesh not just
Christians not just church folks on All
Flesh and they have worked with that
energy that Spirit they have come to
cultivate it different ways some of it's
weird might not agree with all of it um
I'd say in the church is the very lack
of it's a shame dude we're learning but
uh lack of a lot you
know yeah dude we've done a three hour
and 12 Minute Podcast bro oh yeah time
flies man we can still keep going man
it's deep dude I don't know what my
longest one is but
uh well let's make this the one man
probably four hour no close to four man
I've enjoyed I really resonate with what
you got going on man your your channel
what you're talking about like um it's
going to blow up man your channel is
gonna blow up everybody I I did post
teaching me a lot man in chat y'all make
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really good stuff man and you guys can
hear if you can't hear his heart uh and
who he is and where he's at in this
discussion then you're deaf and you have
no discernment but man I really
appreciate your spirit and and what
you're bringing to the table and I
resonate with your story and um and and
know that you mean well and you're you
do you're you're one of us man you're a
good guy one of the weird dudes man
let's go one of the weird those I told
you you'll fit right in yeah you did you
did and thank you so much it honestly
means the world to me just it just one
of these things that's ingrained in me
and I feel like God definitely did this
for a reason it's just I love Community
uh you know my YouTube Channel's really
small I had maybe 20 or 30 people and
it's just that tight-knit Community I
love that I just love talking to them
and um that's the main thing for me just
sharing life experience in a community
of people it means a whole lot man yeah
it does bro um just to know that you're
not alone and I mean just that by itself
how much power it t you know gives
people to know that they're not alone
cuz you feel alone I always tie it back
to the scriptures where Jesus um prayed
for Peter you say hey Peter be careful
man Satan has desired to sift you as
wheat but I prayed for you like I want
he's trying to get you out by yourself
man to let you give up and you're the
only one going through this and you're
the only one and and I find people who
are like I got people like who who are
booking uh sessions with me or booking
uh uh tickets to come on our Retreat and
they're like I love listening to you
tell your stories about your UFO
sightings and working with the angels
because it sounds exactly like mine and
they're like you know they they're
experiencing it too but nobody's
vocalizing it the way that they've
experienced it or whatever you know so
um it's has been awesome thank thanks to
everybody that just subscribed I
appreciate it yeah and if you didn't do
it now do it just
anti-vegan uh anybody have any questions
while we just got a few minutes left for
Cal or myself let me know did we not
give any opinion on anything we've
covered almost everything n it's still a
lot really I told you we was going to
talk about a lot we did so y'all let us
know if you have any more questions um I
know you've had more encounters with
beings and angels and stuff right yeah
yeah definitely
I've had a few encounters and I've been
for whatever reason I feel like uh like
I should talk about one in particular
there was a
uh um it was a negative entity I feel
like there's a an issue with like
discernment for some reason uh or that's
something that you guys have are talking
about a lot on your channel lately is
discernment and uh you'll know when it's
a positive or A negative entity like
you'll just feel it like I mean yes when
an angel shows up it's going to scare
the [Â __Â ] out of you because like whoa
what's going on but it's not like I'm
fearing for my life I'm terrified you
know uh uh back at one of the apartments
I lived in uh I'll say it was haunted or
it was just like all sorts of people
living there so all sorts of entities
were having their free reign up the
place so you know there was one night
where one morning actually I just woken
up and uh you know my wife was right
right in bed next to me and I had my
bedroom door open I always thought it
was a terrible idea sleep with that
thing closed man um but my my bedroom
like you could see out into the kitchen
and you know I was just getting out of
bed I threw the cover over me I was
about to get out of bed and I saw this
um this
Shadow like this standing Shadow it
looked like it was just like suspended
and uh like a person walking by and it
looked like it was like static it was
shaking you know like a shadow uh I saw
this thing move and instantly I felt
like this disgusting dark energy from it
not at all like the angel I saw it was
just like dark presence and it filled me
like I felt the presence of the holy
spirit in that and it was like negating
the presence of this thing uh you know
fighting against that do I think it was
a demon I'm not I'm not exactly sure but
I think it was like a low vibrational
entity for sure uh just just something
negative it's just they feed off of our
energy you know uh it's like things like
that like you know the difference if
it's something negative yeah you can
feel it in the room you know a lot of
times it'll suck suck all the energy out
of the room you know they're like a a
psychic vampire they just feed on energy
and and positivity
um and you can feel it you know you can
be around somebody kids can feel it
babies they my daughter I remember um
they're the best she would like just be
a good judge of character as when she
was a little kid like we we'd have
friends and they would invite other
friends with they bring other people
with them and and and some people she'
just be real standoffish and real scared
versus somebody else brand new you know
talking to him and being there close to
him and all that stuff thank you de um
so yeah being able to to to see that the
energy and you know working off a
discernment too you know I think it's
all in the in the same vein discernment
and um what did you say because you said
perception perceive the thoughts being
able to perceive the thoughts and I
think that's go perception of thoughts
yeah perception of thought goes hand in
hand with discernment of spirits I think
too yeah they're in a in a a spirit is a
mind frame as well it'll get upon you
and become a mind frame a thought the
way you see the world the way you view
people and it it can even be um um an
ambition you know and you can you can
that's crazy meeting pastors and you can
tell their ambition like oh God this
dude is uh this dude's this dude's not
good bro you know what I'm saying like
definitely Prosperity movement you know
and it's so weird for me to vocalize a
lot of the prosperity stuff that we
spoke about for so years and now here I
am believing God for finances and money
and stuff when I because I met them dude
who like were real bad with it and they
were like master manipulators and stuff
and you can feel it on them you know so
um we've been in I've been into a lot of
churches you know doing I did gospel rap
for so so many years and we'd go and
just minister at so many different types
of churches and come to my house Church
come to my uncle's Church come to this
church and you know all kinds of just
weird theologies and people you know but
it's you meet some Beautiful People Too
some of the most Meek awesome people who
just simple God-fearing love God and so
awesome so you get you get the you know
Spectrum you can't be afraid like the
entities right those entities are on
that
Spectrum yeah yeah yeah definitely just
low and high vibrational entities for
sure uh like you can't be afraid to
intermingle with people you know Jesus
was with the you know the tax collectors
the thieves and the drunkards you know
you know you got to be able to to go and
and be around people you know um but
that's that's an interesting thing
especially with the house churches I
like that I've always liked the idea of
house churches I've I've always liked
the idea of tight-knit groups crying out
for the presence of God I mean you look
at acts church and you know you know
when the Holy Spirit descends on the on
the disciples up in the uh up in the
upper room and such man it's just I like
that like you get a certain number of
people together who are all on the same
wavelength they all have the same thing
in mind all have the same
expectation and you know just like with
the UFOs like you're you're calling
you're summoning this thing to you it's
like you get like two or more gathered
there I am also it's like you get that
instance where know you get these people
together and you're calling down fire
from heaven and it just just blows up
the place you know I love that yeah man
and you see a lot of that happening a
lot of Home churches a lot of um house
churches and storefront churches little
ones popping off and stuff people
stepping out believe that God has giving
them a vision maybe their theology
differs so they can't they don't have a
voice in this church so they kind of got
to start their own and U I lost I lost
respect for
a few bigname preachers that I really
loved Jensen Franklin I love Jensen
Franklin I lost a lot of respect for him
Todd White love Todd White lost respect
Damon Thompson same thing because
they've all said these same this similar
thing that I heard together it was a
synchronicity like within the same week
I ke I heard all three of these talk
about this but they talked
about people and you know what they're
doing because they're cornering the
market they're really targeting people
who starts their own church they were
talking about people starting house
churches and they were stting about
talking about people who uh who Branch
off from the church and start their own
small Church they all use the same
phrasing and they called people who do
that start those little home churches or
sto storefront they call them storefront
Abominations you get offended and want
to go off and start your own store FR an
Abomination and you want God to bless it
and it started off off of off fence and
they would like I was like Wow cuz I got
born again at a home meeting like I was
at somebody's home I didn't get born
again in your church like I got I've
always thrived and like I like church
but home meetings is where it's at cuz
you you don't get no cool points for
being there you're there because you're
hungry for a move of God or you want
something deeper and so that's without
you don't get no cool points dressing up
in Sunday's best and coming with your
family and going out to eat after
because it's your routine as good good
Christian people no like you know so I
lost a lot of respect when I heard all
three of those guys say that you know
it's disappointing I you know I've I've
changed my view on a lot of I call them
Christian Superstars you know you
everyone holds them up on a really high
pedestal and you know I've got to see
the man of God I've got to see the woman
of God I got to get my prayer from them
and there is Merit to the laying on of
hands and the impartation of gifts I I
sincerely believe that but um like the
experience happens in the quiet place
like my mentor he he's got a lot of
gifts a lot of weird things happen to
him and when I first met him and we
first started our mentoring
relationship um he prayed over me
impartation of the gifts and things that
that he had just like you would see an
apostle do for somebody else yeah and um
I didn't experience really any of those
at first and he would always say I see
the gift in you you have it you have to
cultivate it yes you know it's like he's
planted the seed of that gift inside me
now I have to take it to the choir place
and say Lord how do you want to express
this what do I do with this and I feel
like that's not something you get with a
lot of the Christian superstars it's
just this ccept of I need this person I
need this thing and uh I'm not saying
I've lost a lot of faith in all of them
it's just some of them like you said uh
it's just like it I've I've changed my
thinking on them a lot the interesting
thing when you talked about your Mentor
um and because I listen to your story
and you was one thing you said was that
he was kind of flying under the radar a
little bit he don't wasn't really
flaunted or you know because a lot of um
what you find is in a lot of churches
when you have a member or somebody else
who kind of becomes that I say celebrity
you go to them for prayer yeah you don't
go to the pastor for prayer prayer
Pastor lost his fire years ago but this
other guy who's seeking the Lord for
hours a day who's walking in the
anointing who is signs and wonders who's
seeing Angels when this guy prays stuff
happens and when you're in a church and
that
happens that dude a lot of churches that
dude gets a Target on his back because
when it's time for laying on hands in
prayer and even wisdom and hey can you
be my
mentor hold on what is he teaching you
hold on no we don't believe that you
know what I'm saying so that person gets
a Target on their back and I've seen
that with many young men and women in
the faith who who just have a fervent
fervency for God and they're stepping
out doing all of these things and people
are going to them they they get shut
down really quick and that burns their
fire out because you're like you think
that the that the pastors would rejoice
and stuff over this that you know and
some people claim that they do but in my
opinion I've seen it where you know
these people get a Target on their backs
you know yeah yeah and yeah he was under
the radar for that exact reason because
he's dealt with uh like he had told me
before he like yeah I've dealt with
churches I've dealt with leadership
talking about the things that I can do
it's like oh that's not that's not of
God you shouldn't be able to hear
people's thoughts like that you
shouldn't be able to leave your body
like all that stuff is that's crazy you
shouldn't be able to do that uh God
wouldn't give you those abilities you
need to figure yourself out and um yeah
that was it was a big problem so he just
learned to keep things to himself and
the funny thing is he would tell me
don't tell anyone this stuff just I'm
this is just for you and I and God don't
tell anybody these these things I tell
you and over the years I find certain
people who just are perfect to hear it
like they're craving that sort of stuff
I'm like I gotta tell this person I'm
sorry I got to tell you know uh it's
just like when you hear a cool story you
have to tell it you know just depends on
the people you tell it to rece don't
give your pearls to pigs you know things
like that yeah for sure and I I learned
that out you know and I think that was
one of the things that kind of first
drew the wedge in between me and and the
dude who was discipling me was the fact
that I had I had these dreams and I and
it were from the Lord and I brought it
to him he's like no that's not the Lord
I like what do you what I mean it was
totally God like he told me Lord
wouldn't do that he doesn't talk like
that he doesn't speak like that oh God
okay and it really is shot me down and a
lot a lot of people go through that a
lot of people have this vision and this
grandio thing that God's going to do and
NOP no God wouldn't do that I say what
that's why I have a lyric in my song
comes from the Bible but um I say Spirit
of the prophets subject to the prophets
chill with mystical gnostics elevating
our conscience like the spirit of the
Prophet is subject unto the prophet you
got to find a prophet you can't be going
to no Pastor no evangelist talking about
being showing up in your room car
delivering messages in the middle of
night they have they don't have a grid
yeah but you found this guy who had a
grid for these things that you were
interested in and that's why the Bible
says again Spirit of the Prophet they
had you know they had a school in the
Old Testament the school of the prophets
that Samuel and those guys were there
were School of the prophets they were
seers they taught each other they
cultivated the gift on how to see that
yeah I know right she turned probably
turned into the mystery schools honestly
the school of the Prophet turned into
the mystery schools you know um but yeah
they so they they cultivated it and
taught people you know techniques and
how to do it the pastor have no idea
what the hell you're talking about yeah
you're crazy we're ask you not to come
back don't tell nobody you ever heard
that okay just don't tell nobody don't
repeat that you know what I'm say I say
Pastor I heard this voice and it was
telling me to do this it was loud and
booming just keep it to yourself that's
that's great God bless God but don't
tell nobody
they're not ready for that in here
they're not they're not about that uh
that gets me into like the Revival stuff
you know I was I was real big in the
revivals I I guess I still am just not
as big what state you're in I'm in uh
Illinois actually okay like 30 minutes
from
Chicago we did the Brownsville Revival
that was huge for me Brownsville cuz
that was that was in 98 so that was you
know I had just got born again and oh
you guys went to that and had a blast my
God yeah it was crazy
yeah got ruined early on you know
meeting these dudes who were like
cultivating their prayer life and
walking in power then we're going to
Brownsville Revival and seeing so many
crazy things that just really impacted
me early on in my faith it set the bar
so high so going to these churches where
the bar was down here and mediocrity and
no Spirit it was like no yikes no no way
can't do it you can't go back man you
experien this you experien a particular
thing you just can't go back and man
there there have been times where I I'll
be at these churches during like
revivals or things like that and um it
never used to be like this like there
was a point where i' I'd be a Christian
and I'd be worshiping and and nothing
would happen I wouldn't feel anything I
wouldn't feel like I was connecting to
anything but uh you know over time I
would worship and it's just like people
call it liquid love I I don't you know I
I describe it as like electricity just
like this like waves of electricity and
static you know
um and I would just be able to just kind
of rest in that and just just like these
waves of continual energy and I was like
this is great you know this I feel like
if I were to touch someone who was sick
with this energy running through me like
they would be healed in Jesus name like
I feel like the the things are possible
when you're in the presence you know
when you have that uh happening to you
so it's it's just really cool you get
these uh revivals going on and uh the
only unfortunate thing is that they end
uh
in these particular ways but you usually
get something out of them you usually
get like you know seeds of people or
groups or movements come out of them uh
that change the the ecosystem of the uh
Body of Christ yeah yeah um man we' seen
seen so much with that stuff again like
I feel like Isaiah you ruined me Lord
I'm ruined you know I'm broken you broke
me you know what I'm saying I can't
function in regular Church culture you
know and speak Christian e and all that
stuff cuz I've just seen so much you
know and um so now you got to learn how
to put a cap on it and you know hide
your Halo you know what I'm saying tuck
your Halo within your cloak you know
what I'm saying your hood um just to be
normal tuck your Halo yeah that's a go
that's a that's a verse right there man
tuck your head no I've heard that in uh
that's what some of the uh they say
people used to do that some of the the
Angels they would hide their they would
wear the cloaks to hide their Halos yeah
people would meet yep
blowing my mind over here man
Brownsville I tell the story I remember
dude in the fire you know and um that
was their big thing fire fire fire that
kind of thing people out the by H kind
of stuff and um Benny hen oh my gosh
yeah hey Benny H super deep dude I'm
telling you like if you get in I love
Ben like I just read his book I don't
know if you've read this but you have to
read this book it's uh it's one of his
like one of his main ones I think good
morning Holy
Spirit yep that's the one oh yeah no for
sure I read that and it was three of
them oh my gosh man I would read that
and like the presence it'd be like I
right now that's what he did he he
literally spent 14 hours a day with the
Lord just in the presence and that
that's like that's what makes you a
Mystic like that's why you have the
experience it's because you're with
divinity like you're getting that
connection those are awesome books man
awesome B is crazy yeah he knows some
deep stuff I think he knows some stuff
about he yeah he te he years ago he was
teaching Enoch on on TBN he was blowing
their minds and it was Paul Crouch Paul
Crouch has passed away now but he's
teaching about the angels and stuff and
he goes into Enoch and stuff and they're
like Benny I've been I've been saved for
63 years and I've never heard this
information you know and Benny's like
yeah yeah you can't talk about this
stuff he was yeah he was kind of being
careful with it but at the time I was
like oh yeah Benny knows there was a
connection Benny knows Benny got it bro
he knows UF I'm talking about UFOs and
everything I know he knows he's with it
I'm pretty sure yeah Ben talking about
and how they travel and stuff I was like
oh Benny hen is with the with it been ho
man but anyway we're chasing this dude
right let me so we're at Brownsville and
yes it's time to go there's people
laying on the floor there's people
everywhere laid out in the glory just
shaking crying all over the building
thousands of people there um but the
pastors are leaving it's 1 1: in the
morning and the pastors are leaving so
we see one of the guest speakers and
he's going out the side door going down
the hallway and all these teenagers like
there he is and everybody starts chasing
him in the hallway get him and they run
up to him and they grab were grabbing
his jacket they're like pray for me pray
for me because they didn't get prayers
thousands of people there you got to
pray for 3,000 people 5,000 people he
turns around he's like fire fire fire
fire touching the kids and they all
shoot back and they hit the wall and
fall out and he turns around and starts
running he starts running again and the
kids are grabbing him and they're
grabbing his jacket and he's like no
pray for me he's f i was one of the kids
dude I'm chasing hey hey hey wait hey
come back he hit me with it boom I hit I
hit the wall and fell out and just laid
there for a few minutes and got up
crying and snot nose and everything and
so dude the level of man it came out of
prayer dude like getting away by
yourself to pray right and but then
doing it doing it with with a group a
small group you get those small group of
people it it's different Bible says well
one can set a th a flight two can set
10,000 a flight where two or three are
gathered in my name there I am in the
midst there's something about
cultivating your own prayer life with
God but when you touch and agree with
other people I I was going through some
stuff you know recently and I I just had
a heaviness on me for a day it was a day
everything kind of accumulated and I
just I was had a bad day I was confused
with my work confused with family stuff
going on and I just felt it I was I was
in a bad spot I tried to pray through it
really couldn't buddy of mine called me
he's like hey man uh I need you to pray
with me I got some stuff going on I said
you know what let's pray together let's
do it and we just begin to pray together
dude and it broke and I just had some
tears with them man you know and you
know but it took him saying yes and call
me and let me sound silly tra might not
want to pray or whatever but he wanted
to pray with me man you know good friend
of mine been been through the trenches
been through all this he knows all this
stuff too but just him to to be in this
place where he was wanting to say yes
and pray and it I felt it break man you
know immediately everything was okay you
know it changed my perspective and just
get it getting it off of me you know get
that crap off of you quit carrying it
take his Yol take his burden it's light
it's easy lay it down immediately shift
your focus you still have to work things
out right you're not a uh you're not
just like acting like you know these
things don't exist anymore but you have
a focus you have a better focus
on these things and it's usually God's
like I got you man I got you bro it
ain't fixed you know but I got you it's
going to work out in the wash you're
going to be okay you know that kind of
thing and so it takes prayer and
shifting focus and touching and and
agree agreeing with other people I love
tapping in with other people who are
especially people who believe like you
you know most of the
time we're raising people up to where we
are let's just be honest you know
there's a lot of people who Haven an
experience so we this is what we do you
know we're guides but when you you find
those people me and you when we pray
together when we tap in like it's
different you know like you can go
higher man when everybody's there it
builds the it shifts the level of faith
and what is possible and it's huge for
sure it's powerful stuff you you can
really you can really change an
atmosphere uh with the right people uh
in a small group just praying worshiping
and calling Down Heaven uh it really
makes a big difference like uh I I feel
like uh what was that time it was like
me and my mentor we we went on a mission
trip and
uh uh it's it's funny because we were in
St Louis we were teaching like inner
city kids you know we were like helping
out with that whole thing and um we
stayed in this refurbished or
rehabilitated like Catholic girls home
and we stayed in dorms it was like a
whole group of us like a big group of
maybe 20 of us going out and teaching
kids and like helping the neighborhood
and stuff and um he and I stayed in the
same the same dorm and he had this idea
it's like we need a place to worship we
need a place like a a secret place so
that we could like pray worship and like
do all that stuff so we took one of the
rooms uh repurpose that room that was
like a like a just like a chill out room
and we like set candles up in there like
you know set it up put incense in there
we just had it like that's the worship
space and over time we had probably uh I
think it was like five or six people in
there and we we were all holding hands
right you know in a circle we were
praying um some of us were praying in
tongues and things like that and uh and
you know my mentor like leans over to me
he's like he's like yeah yeah it's like
we're about to get like this huge
download of energy right now and you
know because he just got these messages
like the Lord would just tell him stuff
and I'm like okay yeah you know I still
hadn't felt too much at this point I was
like yeah that's fine he's like yeah
Jesus says he's going to get us I was
like what's this about G to get yeah
like what's this about and next thing
you know is just like I get hit and it
feels like lightning and it shoots me
back into the wall and I like slam down
into this chair and I'm sitting there
like reverberating like what the hell is
going on here and from that moment like
my like feeling and sensitivity to
energy was like like a hundred times
it's just like like I can feel the
energy I can conduct it it's like from
that moment yeah just like crazy stuff
so when when people talk about um like
falling down at services and the holy
rollers and stuff like that
um healthy skepticism like you said like
I you know I don't I don't trust
everything right off Dr just fall the
courtesy Dr you know feel good about you
know he been praying for me for a
while let me fall down so we can go to
the next person but um it's like
sometimes it's real sometimes it happens
like I've been hit before like just me
by myself like hanging out in the
sanctuary where no one else is there I I
just get hit by this it just feels like
weight just a wave of weight it's like
now you're on the ground like all right
this is happening yeah you know it's
it's a real thing it happens um man I'm
reading the comments here and um reading
U anti-vegan says a couple different
things it's really interesting says uh
why am I on the verge of tears uh
reading this e uh it's definitely H
hitting me hard right now um talking
about God and and God's character and
stuff and being and one thing that he
did say Ethan was talking about how
Jesus doesn't save with a s Jesus saves
no he doesn't saves he's saved saved
that's that was interesting he's saved
he's done it once and for all for
everyone all of mankind for all of
eternity I believe that 100% And that's
the gospel so it's so beautiful so man
um that's beautiful for sure let's do
this Mak again I just said like like I'm
thinking about like what would happen if
we prayed together we can lift our our
level of Faith up you know and there is
even a difference of doing it
corporately here if we did it now versus
hey let's get on a call together just me
and you let's hang out or whatever right
there's a different level right the
atmosphere is different but if you don't
mind man just for a few moments here
while like everyone's right we the
knowledge and the light and the
information's gone forth the gospel's
been preached like all the good news God
loves you he's for for you that's the
gospel we definitely shared that let's
let's pray for those people man who who
are going through some stuff and I say
pray and I know that you're your
vernacular don't feel like you have to
do it do it the way you do it if you
want to send energy if you want to do a
raiki shift that energy whatever you do
do it cool excellent absolutely we'll
start that Great's do that so I've got
some
um some music coming in maybe you can
hear oh my man's got the music he's
ready come on man good stuff I can trust
this guy yes so anybody who who wants
some prayer man we want to pray for you
we want to send you some beautiful
energy um what we're walking in those
things cuz like as we're talking about
this stuff you feel a shift in your
spirit there is that expectation that's
released and birthed within you and you
want it it's for you you can have it
anything that we said it's for you you
want to see it manifest it you want to
you want to see the Angels you want to
feel his glory you want that fire to to
move upon you whatever it is the
promises of God are yes and amen and the
simply fact that you want to show up and
you want to say yes it's for you so
we'll bless you with that and right now
just anybody who's going through a rough
time mentally even um in your identity
struggling in who you are we just
release that right now we just send
forth blessings peace upon you right now
from the top of your heads to the SES of
your feet that you're
loved with an everlasting love that God
would never leave you he would never
forsake you and that he would never lead
you to a place where you were just
feeling overwhelmed and you're having to
carry your burdens yourself so right now
we just remove those burdens off of your
shoulders right now release with ease
and Grace that you would take God's
burden the burden of Christ which is
easy in its light right now to be
removed releasing those burdens you
might even feel your shoulders becoming
uh lighter you feel like there's a
weight being released right
now peace and love to be released peace
peace
peace take a deep breath in 3 2 1
breathe
in love of God peace of God
release seeing it happen speaking to the
things that are not as though they are
release release
release more Glory more love more peace
to be
sensitive and to be confident in who you
are I bless you we send it right now
amen and amen just sit in that for a
moment
guys yeah I'm just feeling uh if if I
can
uh just Lord I just ask for a release of
abundance right now abundance in finance
uh mentally physically I just ask for
that release of abundance in Jesus name
right now Lord I just ask for a uh
impartation of anything that I have that
you want anyone listening or watching to
experience or have themselves Lord I
just release that right now that uh that
abundance that that uh spiritual
abundance that mystical abundance Lord
it is possible Lord I ask for a a
clicking or a rechanged and a shifting
of the mind so that they can have the
mind of Christ Lord no longer focused on
the temporal things of the Earth but
focused on the Heavenly Divine things so
Lord I ask for an opening of the
Heavenly realm right now Lord that you
would call them up Lord to experience
Lord that they would be prophets Lord
that they would be teachers Lord and I
ask that you would send them back out so
that they can pour out your love and
abundance on the world so I just ask for
more I I feel like there's a there's
like a a boundary of disbelief and doubt
uh I don't know who it is specifically
but they're they're struggling
specifically with doubt they're reading
the scripture every day they're they're
trying to see what this is all about
Lord uh so I just ask for uh Revelation
to come to them that the comfort the
holy spirit will come and teach them and
guide them into all truth in Jesus
name Hallelujah bless Yahweh bless
Yahweh amen I think that um I don't know
if you read the chat but Dave is saying
that his uh his wife is is tripping on
his spiritual path and he could use
prayer so I think that even that uh the
doubting I think could have been uh for
his wife but we we'll definitely pray
for your situation Dave love you man God
has got great things in store for you um
your your your your best days are ahead
of you uh more memories that are going
to be able to come but God I thank you
that right now you just shift some
things around in Dave's situation so
that his wife and his family be able to
see the fruits of his labor that his
spirituality would not be in word but in
deed and that many would see and and and
and and hear
The Works that he's doing cuzz they
they' they've heard about it but let him
see it God let them see how he's able to
be in peace in times of of turmoil and
TR trouble everyone else is is panicking
he's staying in a perfect peace about
him I thank you that you've blessed him
with that let that be a testimony and
that it works no matter how weird no
matter how far out woo woo it is it
works I I pray that his family be able
to see that Jesus name we thank you Lord
for everything that you're doing Jesus
you are the spirit of love you are the
spirit of Grace the spirit of unity just
to pour out more and more into his life
and everyone listening who just needs
more of that love more of that Grace
just to release it upon them right now
Winds of Heaven just move move move now
more greater increase greater increase
more fire the gospel in their lives Lord
there it is thank you thank you thank
you release of possibility God
amen it's just as simple as that the
scripture says you have not because you
ask not and all you got to do is
ask you're asking it shall be given unto
you the peace the finances the blessings
the
serenity the coping mechanism the
self-control
to be an overcomer to not serve any
other Master to not be controlled or
lorded by any substance by any idea or
doctrine that's a limiting belief to
release
that to step into the fullness of who
you are and who God has called you to be
I know it seems like it's so far away
but trust me it's closer than you think
the big thing about it is that you're
not becoming it's not something outside
of you that you're going to become it's
not a someone not this Persona or mantle
that you're you're becoming but you
already are those things so God I thank
you that you're
allowing them to birth that outside of
them to that that person that Spirit man
that's within them the Visions are
within them and not outside of them they
already are those things so I thank you
for uh watering the
seed that you would give it increase
that it can grow that they would grow
into the mature Sons and Daughters of
who you called them to be right now
peace peace peace and just removing
any negative ideas or thoughts or
entities that want to hang around these
parasitical energies that want to lie
and they want to hiss in the ear we just
silence the voice of the accuser right
now peace peace peace peace peace right
now release thank you thank you thank
you sever ties right now you you've into
agreement with these belief systems and
right now we just sever them right now
and they got to go they just going to
float away
Gone Gone freed you know that you're
loved you know who you are stand in that
walk in that right
now
yeah yeah we speak that freedom
Lord yes more energy more love more
grace
want I ask for open unfettered
access to abundance to Kingdom lifestyle
Lord yeah just to break that break that
thought pattern that it's not for me
that I won't have it or it'll never
happen for me Lord I ask that you would
release that Assurance of the Gospel
Assurance of Faith Lord that you are
there and that all they have to do is
ask and that you'll do it for them
that thank you for
that well I ask for
peace peace for conflicted and chaotic
Minds it's difficult to meditate it's
difficult for them to sit and focus so
Lord I ask that their minds would be
peaceful like a
stream Lord calm Waters in their mind
father
Lord I ask for favor for Angelic
visitation as
well because it's fun and it it brings
messages that we need and it raises us
up to a different hierarchy in
this in this relationship we have with
you where we know more and we can do
more so I just ask for more encounter
with the Angelic
more exposure to the Unseen realm there
seers right now in the in the chat in
the audience listening Lord right now I
just ask that you would unveil their
eyes father that you would allow them to
see let the scales drop from their eyes
now and just open up the centers for
intuition and sight into the Unseen
amen amen thank you for Activation Lord
bringing them to a new level New
Heights what was once deemed impossible
or what was once looked at as fantasy
God you've making it a reality
Lord making it a reality the dreams that
used to taunt them
seems so far Out Of Reach stepping into
that right
now stepping into it all everything's
there there is no need there is no
wanting there is no striving there's a
simple rest to let all things come to
and through you your
peace again the Assurance as well that
you're loved and nothing you can do to
change
that go deeper read some of the comments
here uh Shirley says the fire says her
whole body is
burning whole body is burning I feel it
too it's awesome so this what I want you
to do why while you guys are here if you
want a little bit more of it again all
of this is about uh living in the heart
living in that heart space becoming
Christ for somebody else you're the only
Bible that some people will ever read
you know you are the manifestation of
the Sons and Daughters of God what I
want you to do is just hold your hands
out to receive just in front of you hold
them out to
receive and just allow that love that's
tangible it's here it's in your oric
field there is love there's peace we
feel it we receive it and just pull it
into your heart space pull that love of
God deeper into your heart pull it in
with both hands upon your heart father I
ask you to
allow us to live from the heart space
yes Lord to respond from the heart space
to speak from the heart
space and to Dream from the the heart
space be in the light as you are in the
light right now
so ask you to do heart surgery right now
for some people that you bind up the
Brokenhearted heal their wounds right
now those who are lonely those who feel
marginalized Jesus name God touch them
right
now thank you that you are a restorer
you are a god of rest
restoration peace peace peace amen and
amen
excellent amen uh everybody take a deep
breath in 321 breathe in through the
nostrils peace of God release thank you
Lord for your your your life your energy
we're here we can still claim ourselves
you're there's still possibility for you
for you you're going to see Great and
Mighty things happen in your life man
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got a lot to talk about you got a lot to
teach me man this UFO stuff I'm got I'll
trade you man you got to teach me some
stuff indeed hows oh and the that my
last name melz is a short name of uh mzc
there you go it's something I came up
with nice nice well my last name sea is
short of Seeker you know truth
Seeker hey bro I really enjoyed it again
so you got your YouTube channel what
about a website social media those kind
of things what are you active on uh I am
active mostly on YouTube do have an
Instagram goes by the same name and a
Twitter that goes by the same name c Moz
uh but my website if you guys wanted to
check that out I've got some information
on there uh for more info on me it's
just C moz.com try to keep it simple hey
sobody teaching that I'm teaching that
in my course branding um I'm interested
in this eight-week program you got in am
I gonna have to come out to where you're
living for this no no it's an online
we're doing it um starts October the
18th and so it'll be eight weeks um
every Sunday night for eight weeks and
so it's um it's teaching people
everything literally like how to uh
first we're going to be focusing on
inner healing the first you know uh four
weeks and uh getting that vision for for
yourself who you are what you want to do
what what this will even look like and
to really to to train healers to be able
to um start their own healing business
to their own coaching business uh Dave
has signed up he's in in a chat there
and he's wanting to focus on breath work
and teaching people breath work and how
to do sessions and how to even start a
podcast like we're really going through
everything so I'm excited it's the best
that I have it's it's pretty much me
mapping out everything that got me here
everything I've I've done that that
worked and teaching it and you
know you know it's uh it's everything
it's the best I got so anyway two years
in a making of me working on this
program and so I've learned so much and
excited to do it but yeah if you want
info go to true
um so yeah thanks for hanging out dude
and uh we'll talk soon bro add me follow
me whatever it is reach out to me man
let's talk absolutely my friend all
right brother many blessings dude we'll
do it again yes sir all right peace
peace ladies and gentlemen Cal melaz man
really really good brother man uh this
may be the longest episode you know if I
talk for four more minutes we've gone
for 4 hours let me do it we got to hit
the 4 Hour mark I don't know probably
the longest I'm really excited about um
stuff that we got going on again the um
uh what I got going on I mentioned to
tell you guys this a while back that I
was going to there's a story in this
book here um the ways of the Lonely ones
by uh Manley P hall and
um there's a story about the face of
Christ there's a lot of good stories
these are stories that uh Manley Pall
wrote and there's some really
interesting stuff he's one of the the
greatest Mystics of our day and really
someone who taught the history of
mysticism and the history of world
religions and spirituality and what they
all believed um so he taught that so
this is a collection of his his stories
but this story about the face of Christ
and it's really about being able to see
God be able to see Christ in everything
it's about a person who has an encounter
walking through the Wilderness in nature
with the Christ and the Christ appeared
to him
and now he's plagued by that that Vision
by that image everywhere that he goes he
sees the face of Christ he's looks into
the waters and the the ripples of the
reflection uh show the face of Christ
he's looking into the trees and the tree
barks he sees that face of Jesus of the
Christ everything he looks at he sees it
and uh it's very reminiscent and um I'm
familiar with that so I remember reading
that and it really spoke to me so I'm
going to read that um on the the podcast
or on this on the channel and I'll put
out an an an image or a video um of this
so be looking forward to that because
it's really good but I want to do a
giveaway man because I got two copies of
this and I just want to give one away
the ways of the Lonely ones by Manley P
hall what should I do what can I do for
a uh um a raffle or like a giveaway some
I can give you a copy of copy to what
should I do I got I got two minutes to
hit four hours and I'm thinking of a way
should I just pick a random name can I
um um well I don't know what to do I
need to think of something like on the
spot that I can do a
giveaway and I'm reading the chat so
y'all give me some uh who wants it
anyway you know pick a number I don't
know I guess a number would be good
let's do that
um do a number a
number I don't know pick a number one
through 10 you know they have those they
have these programs um that will
actually like pick people randomly for
you
so let's
see goodness goodness goodness let me go
to my YouTube here I don't know I don't
know I'm just killing time at this point
just trying to think of things to do to
give it away
um let's see click my
video okay so like this
video um
you guys are just already guess I didn't
say I was going to do the number thing
and everybody's guessing numbers
goodness let me think of a quiz man a
quiz answer a quiz a quiz a quiz um my
goodness my goodness I don't know y'all
this is silly this is not a good um
podcast dead Air Time Of Me
scrambling
um 3 the chat's going crazy right now
awkward for sure uh Dead Silence
um man how do I I don't even know what
to do you want me to guess a
number somebody uh type the who knows my
wife's name type my wife's name the way
it's spelled first person to guess my
wife's name or who knows my wife's name
and the way it's spelled which is which
is weird I'm reading the chat that
person going to get the book what is TRS
is white name you can Google it you can
look it up there's different ways um you
can find it so I'm watching the
chat the first person to type my wife's
name gets the book we're watching we're
watching you can Google it if you need
to because it is it comes up in Google
um so I'll look at that for the next
minute or two Claymore got it you got it
Claymore you wanted it you got it
Claymore got it guys already given away
Aaron a r i n spelled it right now tell
me how did you get that did you know it
did you Google it really quick how did
you how did you how did you know it
Claymore but you got it Claymore got it
um somebody said spirit wolf that's her
tag tag name somebody says missa Melanie
someone said
Melanie uh um I Googled it n nice hey
there you go Google I I said you could
cuz it does come up it's kind of weird
what is tra's wife name in the episode
comes up that we uh did together send me
your info email me at truth7 yahoo.com
look in the description get my email
send me an email and I'll put this book
in the mail for you and uh anything else
I can find cool to send you as well
maybe a CD or some stickers or something
hit me up man send me your information
I'll get that out to you um I want to
let you guys know I've got a new t-shirt
that I'm about to release probably today
um it's going to be a limited uh uh
quantity but um really excited about
this t-shirt looks really cool and um
I've been working with the artist for a
couple days now on it and it come it's
amazing so go to truth.com and um
hopefully it'll be there in a couple
hours so after you hear this just check
back later and and get it it's going to
be limited quantity I think I'm going to
do 100 uh of them and see how fast they
go so with that being said Peace and
Shalom love you guys we'll do it again
love y'all peace
peace your so much higher than mine
so much higher than mine so much deeper
than mine so much deeper than M well
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