In this episode of the TruthSeekah Podcast TruthSeekah speaks with Carlos Martinez about prophesying with power and channeling the heart of God.
Carlos Martinez is a minister based out of San Diego California with a passion to equip the body of Christ to walk in their prophetic destiny. Carlos travels to churches and home meetings across the nation training people to hear the voice of God through their own unique prophetic giftings.
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Prophesying With Power | Carlos Martinez YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNfX_9ZBAmI Transcript source: YouTube captions truth-seeker and/or its affiliates are not responsible for any strange phenomena that may occur during or after listening to this podcast which may include the following heightened senses of awareness psychic abilities UFO sightings alien contact time loss out-of-body experiences ringing in the ears ESP lucid dreaming increasing chronicity astral projection telepathy stronger intuition levitation miraculous healings and all remote viewing please be advised - a simple decision what you and all things spiritual hey what's going on ladies and gentlemen I'm truth-seeker this is the truth seeker podcast excited and delighted to be with you guys again today got another exciting episode lined up for you we're gonna be talking about prophesying not just prophesy but prophesying with power prophesying with fire good stuff we're gonna be talking about the breath and creating and we're gonna be digging into that a little bit with my friend here Carlos Martinez within the next few minutes but I want to say a huge thank you again to everybody who is supporting my work and making this show possible via patreon shoutouts all my patreon supporters you know who you are as people who's been with me for a couple years now people who have just come on and all over the spectrum I'm gonna say a huge thank you for believing in my work and partnering with me in this endeavor in this ministry and I thank you for seeing the vision and hopping on board if you'd like to support head on over the patreon.com backslash truth seeker there's a link in all the descriptions there you get access to my entire discography of music it's over 200 songs you get access to my meditations interactive guided meditations our Thursday night school of the Mystics and a bunch of other cool stuff that we're bringing to the table so make sure you go over there check that stuff out we'll try to make it worthwhile continuing to add stuff over there I'm gonna be walking with some more meditations that are gonna be uploaded as well patreon.com backslash truth seeker and I just want to give a quick thank you to some of the latest patrons within the last week or so so shout out to Shaun someone signed up under the name of Sean thank you brother for coming on and Smiths Thank You Anne and Jessica younger thank you guys for believing in division and coming on to support patreon.com backslash true Sica less than a week ago I've just released my book if you guys are watching on video it's probably backward but I will say that I'm just I'm impressed with the book I'm impressed with the how beautiful it is with the artwork man the guy who did the artwork just knocked it out the park man so my book is entitled spirit realm angels demon spirits and the sovereignty of God link is in the description as well you can go get a copy on my website I will be doing autographed copies now that I was able to get those in I didn't think it was something that I was gonna be able to do but we do have autographed copies now I'll be able to ship them out and sign them for you I released it on Amazon as the aggregator to sell it within 24 hours the book immediately went to the hot new release on Amazon and they sponsored it and yeah it went to the top of the category we got number one in Christian angel in demonology so we were the number one book and Christian angelology and demonology within 24 hours of the release it shot up there in Christian spiritual warfare and spiritualism so a lot of people been checking this book out and I want to say a huge thank you to everybody who is supported and who's purchased a copy of the book you guys are awesome I just I've tried to keep it hush-hush for the most part I've been talking about it a little bit on the podcast but I just tried to just up and release it and now I've been working very hard on this book so pays off man it's a it's a beautiful relic to have and I'll cover so much information in the book if you look at the table of contents I mean it is a very eclectic with there's so much that I'm touching on I wanted to kind of go in on everything having to deal with spirituality that I knew about spirituality and the spirit realm different ways that we are in contact with angels or even demons or ghosts and things like that and coming from a biblical perspective kind of painting that picture of some even obscure verses in the Bible that people don't even know exist so kind of re-examining some of these things when it comes to spirits angels and how they operate and the sovereignty of God of this whole ecosystem and how God has kind of created it sovereign - it kind of set it and forget it it like these entities these spirits they have a job to do they have messages to deliver the good ones and the bad ones so understanding the sovereignty of God in that whole ecosystem you find yourself moving from victim to victor and you don't feel like everything is against you you have some say-so in the matter was interacting with the spirit realm so make sure y'all check out the book it's at my website truth seeker calm I'm gonna go ahead and jump into today's conversation with my guest I've had him on the show before it was a really good episode we talked about hearing the voice of God today we're gonna be talking about prophesying with power my good friend Carlos Martinez Carlos what's up my brother hey brother all right man blessed to see you man in your book man I can't wait to purchase it I know it's gonna be fired man I just congratulate you on that release man and I thank you so much for allowing I'll bless me to come on true secret and so it's been an honor bro thank you so much I've been working with Eric Derek for the for the past years and and man he's a blessing so definitely want to get into Jerry's mind cuz he is amazing the boy doesn't fire on himself come on bro Thank You Man right yeah well you you don't said you wanted the homies man you know what I'm saying and so I appreciate what you do and what you bring to the table and your fervency and your obedience to the father's heart man with the call that he's given you and whether how how that shapes out how that plays out you know it might seem unorthodox man but it really is answering the call that he's given you talking about prophesy with fire I want to get into that there's a whole I guess it's in it's something that's that that's really like the heartbeat of your ministry right now you guys are doing all of these I don't know if you call them services or pop up places and stuff where you're just going at it and you have different teachers and worship leaders come in and so most like see I know that you do do a lot of stuff at the churches and stuff but I've been seeing you like really thriving in home meetings and going from house to house meeting and it's usually when you go live and do it it's packed out like there's usually a packed house of people hungry for God in HUD the home meetings man is that what you're doing just going house to house meeting like they did in the scriptures you know you know I am brother I am and actually yeah you know I'm going house a house man and and and it's amazing because the gathering that comes they just they just they fill up the house man they packed up and so it's exciting to see people come in from different places or churches and and so you know problem with fire activation and training is actually the title of what I do because I've seen people activate in the end of in the prophetic gifting and I like to go house of house and see people that are hungry because they're it's the the gift of prophecy is such a powerful blessing and it's a compelling presentation of God's kingdom that you know it's sad to see that the church is you know how to swayed away from this this power for gift and some of the reasons is because a lack of training by teaching or even prophetic mentorship so God has called me the eyes to travel all over the United States and do these in churches and revivalism and our East Coast West Coast North South Texas North Mintz all these I used to travel and this season I just felt like madness the guy's telling them you know it's time to start digging in in Southern California which is out here in San Diego and so I started digging in I just got soaked a god I'll give me the assignment and so I've been going house to house and the house has been packed and it's amazing seeing people coming not only from man brother I've had non-believers atheists come into the trainings and prophesy I got so many testimonies and it's incredible seeing this because you seen God activating and they're prophesying with fire because that's where prophecy comes from it comes from the center of your heart the center of your soul the center of your spirit you're born again and that fire it just comes in and you see them activate um I got lots of testimonies but yes that's what we're doing I'm going house to house I'm trying the house is getting private we got different worship nights different worship leaders Tiffany does different oil that's just coming in and just activating people so and it's crazy because I think our first night we had like 42 people we ran out of chairs when we launched in August when I launched in August and just ran our church but it's exciting I'm seeing God activating I'm seeing God people activate prophesy for the first time and yeah we're just gathering in houses back-to-back and next year's gonna be even more bigger more beautiful and more God that's what's up man I got a whole I got a whole chapter or part in my book when it comes to the spiritual giftings and how we operate in them and you know their their importance in our life and if it was important for jesus to use the spiritual abilities and spiritual giftings of moving in the prophetic hearing the voice of god hearing god's heart being able to discern spirits there's so much that kind of comes with that territory right and and it's like you said this in the church realm there's a lot of people who think that that died with the apostles or that died with the disciples you know what I'm saying and so but as far as for the occult and for the dark side they're there they're moving in signs and wonders they're moving in miracles and communicating with spirits but for the child of God for those who are trying to do it righteously it's dead it doesn't exist anymore that couldn't be any further from the truth and I think that when it comes to prophesying and in spiritual gifts to deny people that is to deny them a part of Jesus man yeah yeah it's it's so true I mean if us believers only knew what we had inside we got inside of us as we call it the Holy Spirit once weak once we get activated in the Holy Spirit we believe and we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior and we hear the gospel of our salvation over infusers 130 and talks about that it talks about the gospel of your salvation how you hear truth and you've been sealed today of redemption so that Holy Spirit of promise is living in you and inside that Holy Spirit we've got what we call gifts and so the eternal gifts and so one of the gifts is prophesied which is the evidence of God it's so amazing how you can just tell people about their past present and future whatever God wants to tell you about it you know and you don't even know the person so that that is the evidence of God because us as believers have the evidence of the eternal spirit called the Holy Ghost come on yeah so we got that and so we have the beautiful gifts of a bunch of gifts that get some heat and give some miracles but yet we have to get the promised yeah and so that's that's amazing how that get works yeah and it's um it's you know it was used by Jesus he was able to flow in the prophetic and prophesy one of the things I point out in the book is the part of the the woman at the well so you know when the woman comes to the well and she's there and she sees Jesus and she's going to get some water and she says something to him and gets his attention and he she kind of lies to him about her husband or whatever he said no in fact you've had you know seven husbands or whatever the case is and she's like you know who told you you're not from here you don't know me from Adam you know and uh he he blew her mind he won her over because he knew secrets of her heart he could because if we're connected to God God knows everything about everything and about everyone like so if we're connected to the Father's heart he speaks to us about people and it's really moving in that is as simple as okay father what would you say to them and and God would say well I know them I know this about them there's people who tap into the prophetic they're able to get phone numbers addresses names of relatives all of this kind of stuff because they're they've trained themselves to be able to hear the voice of God that speaks through many different facets with our body with our mind and using our imagination and whispering to us God's communicating with us about things in his heart we don't even know it we think it's our imagination so that with the situation with the woman at the well it blew her mind she says that you must be a prophet you must be the Messiah truly I'm in the presence of the Messiah she walks away and tells everybody since proclaiming the gospel and she says come see a man who had has told me everything that I've ever done and she goes I'm sure that the conversation went a little bit deeper because she didn't say come come come see a man who told me about my husband he says she said come see a man who told me everything that I had ever done and everybody starts coming he saw his prophesying and healing everybody who was there as they came with childlike faith in awe and wonder moving into prophetic and there's just so many times throughout the scripture where Jesus would perform a miracle or he would hear a word from the father and he would translate it in in doing that it would spark some type of revival where everyone would get healed where demons would be cast out of people because of one act of faith and moving in the prophetic it's amazing that how about how the gift of prophecy works always talks about to pursue love but desire spiritual gifts and one of the gives you customized get the prophecy and and in it's men it's meant to in first Corinthians in first Corinthians 14:3 it talks about to get the prophecy of strength in comforting and edifying so you and your edifying your edifying the body of Christ your edifying and edification is really important because when someone is down and out if they're going through a dry season it and then you all of a sudden get a good prophetic word and they come up and you just God just places on your heart to going tell this person and they're going through a season and they can't see what God is doing and then God chooses you as a believer to go and tell this person something which you know not nothing about and then you go and you let them know what God is doing in their season and this just comes as a breakthrough are you son you that word is delivered that message is delivered and so that is the voice and that voice when it brings breakthrough in that person's life because that's what at us and the voice that God uses is the voice of revival and so that is also explained in Jonah when Jonah went into the I gave him a message to go give to go give to the king and Jonah Jonah said I'm running from God so but all of a sudden he you know John we know the story of Jonah where he gets a rebellion to fail for three days etc but when Jonah repents and says okay god I'm done him I'll go tell him Jonah goes and he tells the king and the King writes a decree and tells the whole city and they said that the city is so big that it takes three days of walking so you gotta have three days three four days to walk the city the whole entire city but that the whole city came in repentance and so that's amazing how God can use someone's voice to bring revival not only to the saint but to the city come on yeah so don't get me man as good as so many there's so many pictures in in those stories man and and just to what cuz you know just ain't moving forward like he got mad that the people were pissed he wanted God's judgment to come against the city but they're like naw man we listening we want to obey God too and he got mad that they that they were doing it that's a really really interesting story you know and if you notice that the King put on sackcloth because what Jonah told them was real who can only know what the king was doing except God yeah oh no and so that being said then now the whole city came to repentance you know he wrote the decree but also at the same time there was some edification and repentance and there was a whole revival put in that community yeah so praise God for that yeah man the you know the scripture you're talking about which says desire spiritual gifts there was a translation of the scriptures I don't know if it was the NIV or which one it was but one of the version says to zealously or earnestly lust after the spiritual gifts to like man to desire it more than anything like I want one want these and so people would say like who's it for well maybe I can't move in a prophetic I've come to find out that the Bible says in first Corinthians 14 31 you may all prophesy like everyone can do it we all can do it and I think that if people are trying to find their gift or which you know how the Spirit operates with them and how they're able to hear and sense in the Spirit if they want to do it just that notion that they're intrigued just the notion that they want to look into it says that hey this is for you right yes yeah totally it is it is for everybody it is in Scripture and that's why it's important for for us to have some training also to back that scripture up too because you want to become healthy if you got a good trainer out there that that's wolf season you know and you are desiring to get the promise you just continue to pray in the fasten that's good to anoint you in that realm you know the prophetic realm is huge and so it's a powerful blessing but at the same time you know I would encourage you to get under someone who is season and has accuracy because you know we've had some you know I you know been doing these trainings for really long many years 11 years 12 years you know and and and so I see that look like I first started earlier that the gift of prophecy the powerful blessing but some of the churches have swayed away from that powerful blessing and so that being said almost because of the lack of teaching and training you know they don't teach about to get the prophecy and how important it is you know how talked about how the gift of prophecy is a it's a it's foundational to the church in in first Corinthians 12 28 he talks about how it's really foundational Ephesians 4:11 12 says how Christ gave the the church the fivefold the apostle prophet and his teachers for the equipping yeah and so we need to be equipped against the spiritual warfare that Satan have because you're right brother you were talking about how we as as people who are into the demonic realm they tap into those spirits and so if we're tapping if those people are tapping into the spirits and how much powerful more is tapping into God's prophetic for sure for sure man you know I talked to people from all spectrums man you know that and I talked to a lot of mediums and Chandler's people claimed that they talked to the dead and things like that I mean you know I just want to have a conversation with them pick their brain how does it work but I tell you I do know that our bodies and our minds are designed in such a way where we are able to pick up on energies whether you're talking to past loved ones or dead relatives or familiars demonic spirits or angelic spirits you can go above and beyond that you can you can directly channel the father's heart man the creator of the universe not some lesser entity that he created you can go straight to the one that holds all of this stuff together like he filled space and time and he wants to communicate with us I don't care about Uncle Charlie and what he want has to say in messages he wants to communicate I want to know what the father knows and he knows uncle Charlie he knows all that stuff so father asked the father because if you go straight to the father's heart man you go straight through Christ you ain't gotta worry about getting demonically possessed and oppress and opening up the door to unclean spirits that are tricksters and poltergeists trying to trick you and telling you that they're a friend of the family and there's some demon that's been with the family lineage for hundreds of years and entertaining and stuff there's a right way and there's a wrong way to do it and and you guys need to know that and and practicing and sitting under the right teaching and the right people who are doing it the right way is key like you said finding a teacher finding an instructor a safe place where you can practice the prophetic practice here in God's voice practice sharing the messages and if if it if I'm not against you know angels I'll and and and different types of messengers but it comes make sure it's coming through the vein of the Father's heart if if you go straight to the father and he has something and he wants to show you or tell you and it involves an angel or a spirit or whatever the the Bible is very it opens up to a lot of this kind of stuff that we may call a new age and stuff like that but make sure it just comes through the father man because he's gonna make sure that you're okay you're not getting you're not gonna get in over your head because you see a lot of people who have done some of these practices and stuff in the demonic realms and they've opened up doors that they can't close you know do working with spirits that are a lot older than them so again there's a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it finding people who love the father who's who's genuine genuine uh motivation is love you can tell that and I'm even reading in the comment section some of the people shout out to the homie Thor he's like he says even talking about you he says he says true think of this guy you interview and has a very humble spirit a beautiful spirit he doesn't know you from Adam but even the fact that he can pick that up watching this on his phone or the computer that's even tapping into the Prophet nobody knows you we just come on but he's able to tell you have a humble spirit and in who you are so you got to get under people who are not arrogant who are not using the gifts to their advantage or to Lord their knowledge over people when the Scriptures is key when it says that the Spirit of the Prophet is subject unto the Prophet you have these prophetic abilities and these encounters in the spirit and you go talk to a pastor or a teacher who who doesn't believe in it they're gonna shoot you down in a heart in a second and they're gonna call it demonic because they don't understand what you're talking about they've never been woken up in the middle of the night with a spirit at the edge of their bed communicating messages they don't know what that is it's demonic to them but it's all like this these experiences all throughout the scriptures but they don't even have a frame of reference so it is very much key what Carlos is doing and opening up the doors to to be open about your right and and and to share it and to teach people and train train people this is what we do on Thursday nights School of the Mystics we break down into groups and and again like you're saying to see somebody step into this for the first time in prophesy or get a word that touches them you know or receive a prayer and there's many different ways for us to tap in and to receive the word of the Lord and then to prophesy it which would be to declare it to communicate it speaking as the Oracles of God and and when you prophesied the Word of God and prophesy with power things happen when you know you change situations that the vibe the vibration of the room the atmosphere changes around you and to add that you know you were talking about out and and to talk about how we can get under somebody who sees it you know that it's very important you know get that guidance because the scripture and in first time in 1920 it talked about how Samuel with was leading a group of prophets or the story about the the whole story there in that chapter was about King I was sending this man out to go home for Dave and so when he went to go hung out for David his his soldiers ended up encountering Samuel and a group of process and the Bible tells us that samuel was leading and that word leading means to manage and means to direct and so when samuel was directing and managing a group of prophets and they were prophesying they were anointed by the Holy Spirit they had the end I called it the jar everyone has her own jar and it's a jar that will never finished when they will never lose that jar of oil the anointing and so the Bible tells us in 1920 that the Spirit of God came on and those peoples all those soldiers and they begin to prophesy so I use the scripture in my training because what happens when these men encounter the anointing of the Holy Spirit the prophetic realm or what happens if these guys they end up becoming activating and so that's why what we do out here is in southern San Diego that the training that I do to prop sign with fire activation and training and so when you around God's presence right and so you become activated when it comes to God's presence and the prophetic realm and so we have evidence here that Souls men were activated and they began to prophesy and so that's such a beautiful scripture because you see God's presence being and these people weren't inside a building these people were outside the building and so wherever you go you carry the anointing of God's presence and so to parallel that to another scripture that I had in 1st Corinthians 10 it talked about the distribution of gifts and so it's very important to have a mentor or some someone who was seasoned in the prophetic to mentor you and to walk with you so you can become healthy and so we see Samuel managing a group Samuel was given a mantle too and he's raising up baby Mantle's who are going to become warriors for the kingdom in the prophetic realm but I'm gonna quote the scripture real quick in 1st Corinthians 12:10 it says it's it says he gives one person the power and he talked about Paul talks about here about the Holy Ghost he says he gives one person the power to perform miracles and another the ability to prophesy but watch this he gives someone else the ability to discern whether a message is from the Spirit of God or from another spirit and so that's what you were talking about earlier about how people can tap into different spiritual realms it's Betty especially if they're demonic but what's important here and also and one of these what I point out in the scripture is that somebody is discerning the message so when you have a healthy mentor or someone who's going to met you in the prophetic is very important so I want to encourage you believers out there to get under someone who's seasoned because when you're delivering a message someone else is discerning that message and they're seeing if it's from the Spirit of God or from another spirit come on it's good man um shoot gone back to Samuel well I mean there's a couple things here speaking about prophesy right when it when the anointing came upon them they began to prophesy and then when we read in the New Testament when someone the Holy Spirit came upon someone they began to speak with other tongues and they begin to prophesy as well you know what I'm saying they begin to declare the Oracles of God and and and there's different ways to do that but I was something when the Spirit came they immediately begin to prophesy no first Samuel 16 there's a couple of things I have marked here in this chapter but this was a good one but it says and it's kind of all of this ties in to prophecy again they this was the school of the prophets if you will that they had and it said that it says 16-7 but the Lord said unto Samuel look not on his countenance or on the height of his stature because I have refused him now on the outside it may look good they may look like they got it all together but it says for the Lord seeth not as man sees for man looketh on the outward appearance but the Lord looks at the heart the Lord sees the heart and so God communicates with his sons and daughters he communicates the heart what's going on within the hearts of men when the things that you're hiding the things that you you think that nobody else knows God knows and so he'll communicate it with us so that we won't be deceived there's people out there who have a form of godliness but denies our there of the outward appearance is awesome they've got it all together they say all the right things they wear the right clothing they just seem like they got it all together in it they may have stages they may have audiences but their hearts are far from them as the scripture says and in some of these people who are around Samuel and they were around Saul for a period of time but then they ended up going with Samuel right so going and this is one thing that stuck out too many years ago as well First Samuel 10 26 and it says and Saul went home to Gibeah I guess that's how you say it and there went with him a band of men whose hearts God had touched and that's like that's who I want around me man I want a band of men a few good men whose hearts have been touched by God man he's just just seeing the prophetic and what they built there and it's it's a beautiful a beautiful sign of what what we need to do as well they had a school like they taught it they had curriculum one thing that was always noted - about the school of the prophets in the scriptures was a lot of times you see seen them they always had instruments with them they knew the power of music they knew the power of worship they knew the power of song and dance and praise and adoration and that was something that's very close to the heart of the father - with the prophets it was understanding the power of music I mean I know when you do your intensives and you and y'all do our services y'all really get it in with with the music - right oh yeah oh yeah it's powerful man we've been blessed man I mean getting different encountering different people to come in and just need worship like there's just so hard we could set the atmosphere because you know it was one so when he was you know distress and God had God had put - the spirit of the stress on him now who did the first person he called he called Davey said bring it bring David come and pay some music Fleming and so David brought is there and then he just let him into worship because why because it's powerful and when you when you feel with the Holy Spirit as believer when you feel what the Holy Spirit worship just come to become so different it just becomes you know what and sauce pecan this real quick you know how when when when you're out there and you're just out in the world and you have no clue about God you know 10 15 20 years ago you would list we were listening to rap music bumping the rock and all this other stuff and then somebody would put on Bart's trip we'd be like turning it off you know we change the channel but now that you know we've been we've come to a part where God has came into our lives and he made his life evident that a Israel in our lives now worship becomes so different it becomes so spontaneous become so beautiful and because that divine leer that divine sound into that it brings in that divine presence and so it is important that when we do the prophetic trainings we have different musicians to come in this past week on Thursday we had a violinist come in and she came and she strung the violin and it's just so beautiful you know along with the acoustic and the base and the Cajon it was just so amazing to have worship come align to line up the page the person and the believer like I said who tie been in the dry season yeah you know and then they come into this to an a setting where worship is so strong that that distress just falls right off of it you know all their frustrations and anger or or their finances whatever they're dealing with that week or my boss but they come into a setting and it's important that worship sets the atmosphere and then we go into track activating and training and prophecy so that just comes a lie God lines it up and brings a non-believer the atheist or someone who got a bad week and then they get poured into what the prophecy yeah it's powerful dude going back again to the music for me that that story of David playing the harp for Saul and when it's when he did he says the evil spirit left him any time he would play that that beautiful music the stringed instrument dealing with vibration and knowing the right chords to play and then one whose heart had been touched by the father right he was anointed he was a psalmist right yet there was power behind when he played so seeing that and then for me when I came out of really dark witchcraft and occultism I was possessed by all kind of demons dude I would just I do ritual and try to open up my mind open up my life too to these entities to come through and they did like all at once and I was in a really messed-up place and hearing voices in my head and couldn't turn it off and there was no off and on switch and it really scared me and it took me a long time even after I gave my heart back to the Lord of Justice walking it out and they didn't play fair and they would didn't want to let me go you know so it was it was a long hard road to get there and there would be times where I would have like panic attacks and stuff and even like going to I remember just being like going out to eat with my wife and stuff and we would be out of town and eating a knife at a nice restaurant and then I would just get overwhelmed by all the talking like all everyone all the voices from the people in the restaurant I could like hear them all at one time and I couldn't focus on my wife and I'm just like freaking out on the inside and I have to just leave the table I'm saying I'm sorry I need you to box or something get it to go I have to go sit in the car and put on worship music and just start lavishing my love upon the Father and then in turn he does it back to me he lavishes his love back to me and I'm just in this this place going back to King David hiding up hiding in the shadow of the Almighty as the scripture says going into that place of safety that cave it was just in a place of prayer and it's in a place of brokenness in worship and adoration with the Father and there was a lot of times going through that process where I would just get get weird headed you know what I'm saying the demons they didn't want to let me go and I'd have to like I have to draw away and I have to tap in and pray I have to get with the father and then his he would send us peace the Holy Spirit would come and calm my spirit and comfort me then one of the names of the Holy Spirit is the comforter why because we need to be comforted we're his children and so he sends the Holy Spirit to comfort us so being able to to know when to do that you know in the power of music and it's the things were entertaining with with our worship or with our idle time you mentioned the scripture that in Corinthians and I think was Ephesians we're like prophecy and their spiritual abilities and giftings and stuff are for the betterment of God's people are for correction reproof but it says that Jesus is the spirit of prophecy right this is a statement pretty much from Martin here and my buddy flying penguins he says and I want to get your take on this he says prophecy should build up we must filter the word through identity in Christ and love he says angry prophets speak speak from another spirit or through their own brokenness now what about that what do you know about because I've dealt with it and I've probably done it in the past well you you get a word from God are you you're able to pick up on something but it's it's trends you don't translate it right like it's translated out of your own things you already know you know in your own understanding and it's maybe some people try to tear people down maybe they get a prophetic word or they get they're able to discern that someone is in sin and then I've had people have weird prophetic dreams about me being I guess demon-possessed or something and they went and told everybody but me like they told all the friends and the churches and I had the Lord showed me Derek's got a demon and they told everyone but me when we do pick up and God gives us words or we're able to pick up on spirits it's through the heart of an intercessor so that we can go to war so that we could touch heaven to see that person delivered I don't know if that lady just had you know pizza before bed eight to man she had a weird dream and she already has these preconceived notions about me and who I am and stuff like that so some things that she already believed to be true it doesn't didn't mean it was true I don't think I had any demons in me but she went forth and told everybody then there's a bunch of stuff like that that happens in the prophetic and through fear and through finger-pointing and stuff like that and it's not done out of love it's done out of hey stay away from him and come see what we're doing well at our church type stuff you know have you ever dealt with that have you have you yourself ever dealt with that or have you been around those people who who are like the stern and like everything's evil and everything to correct the strong arm of the Father and bringing forth correction and stuff because you have the people who call themselves era sea hunters as well well I don't know if they call themselves heresy hunters they just a horror they call themselves Watchmen Watchmen of the Lord but they're really heresy hunters and they're just looking for demons false doctrine and everything and you're gonna find it if you're looking for it you're gonna find it everywhere right but yeah what's your take on that man you know again I you know I just my take on that is yeah there's some unhealthy prophet prophetess and believers out there you know wonder believers are you know they get a word of knowledge and and they're always seeking and and trying to figure it out you know trying to figure out how so so didn't save this way right this is a some people receive a vision and and so they try to interpret it themselves and some people you know they don't know how to interpret it so you need to depend on the Holy Spirit for the interpretation just like Peter did in chapter can the Holy Ghost is the one who interpreted the vision and who else interpreted Joseph's dreams it was God so listen let's look at this in a positive way and then we'll touch what's happened to the other way but I asked I say that you guys depend on the Holy Spirit for the interpretation out there also at the same time yeah there is some unhealthy I have encountered my first class I said anybody hear that my first training that I lost the dog except this year after a long sabbatical rest I asked everybody I said hey have you guys encountered any unhealthy crop prophetic healthy profits prophetess or believers that they delivered a word to you and half the class had raised their head including myself and so again the gift of prophecy is for comforting edifying and strengthened right and so the god of the Old Testament which is the New Testament that got a New Testament it's just God sobs you but some people lean on the repentance work you know they go to the children of Israel and tell them to repent because they're serving I was in Babylon I mean these are this guys's atmosphere at this time you know and and so it was just a few that were choosing they were they chose to serve Yahweh back then but yeah there I've encountered those type of prophets in my life you our way and and so that's a shame again I I need it towards getting someone who's seasoned and that's why I always stressed that out get someone who's seasoned to help you walk you in and ask the right questions because sometimes you receive a vision and you don't have you don't know how to ask the Holy Spirit what the vision is yeah sometimes you don't know what to ask or sometimes i am i training someone will receive a word and when they receive a word they go and deliver it but i do what we call a word check you have to check the word three times ask the Lord if the word is from him so if you receive a word and let's say for instance you're at the market you receive a word for somebody or no parking lot over the church yes a parking lot yeah yeah yeah walking up in the bathroom - you just got laboured in - it was a great message about repenting because they said listen add this word check this guys and sisters and brothers I call what we call we're checking is that word for you you know or or what I do is when I receive a word and and I get it for somebody I ask the Lord okay Lord not once not twice but three times and so that's the way I handle word checking it's important to use that tool it's a tool that I'm giving you and and and yeah and it's important to do that because if you don't you don't want to become cuz people gonna look at you like a false prophet they're gonna look at grah God all different and and it becomes unhealthy it becomes you get to the point where in the only healthy but it comes toxic because now you're this guy this person who thinks that God is giving you a message for the person itself that they need to repent member brethren it's to strengthen comfort and edifying mm-hmm so yes I have encountered these unhealthy prophets and then again I do want to steer you to someone who is seasoned and accurate and just come alongside them and just learn so you don't show that we present eight that presentation of who God is because you don't know what people are going through and that's why you know I mean that's why it's important to comfort people yeah what the gift of prophecy so that's why God uses that tool that that mat mat tool but he gives us teachers to give tools out to those who are learning but yes it is it is sad and again that's why churches sway from it because of these type of actions and brother I'm gonna say this real quick at the same time like I said unhealthy profit profit beliefs instead they're unhealthy it's just that they're hungry they're they're hungry for the gifting but again they have the lack of teaching by training yes healthy prophetic mentorship but then on the other side as well you know I wanted to I wanted to kind of touch on this but just kind of ties in because it's the polar opposite the polar opposite from the angry profit or the repentance profit is the the so-called prophets who kind of are like soothsayers they just tell you what you want to hear and they're really good at it and so I've been a part of meetings where like they prophesy over everybody everybody's getting a book everybody's got a book deal everybody's got you know and there's these like they're almost like generic prophecies that they're just kind of supernaturally releasing over people where you're like I don't know like they're being really specific about it the weird thing is not everybody can discern it and some people are just like okay a book okay uh you got you got a you got you got a paycheck coming it's gonna be a surprise paycheck like if you really here and I think you have to hear the heart of the father on on these things before you come on just open your mouth because if you're prophesying falsely you're your false prophet if your prophet I'm falsely there is grace for us to train and to learn right right but um but for the people are just like you got a book deal you got a book deal it was almost like Oprah you got a book you get a book you get a book everybody's getting and people are just like yeah they're just chasing the prophetic and they're hungry for a word you don't know they're seeking so there's that as well and one of the things that would maybe you know make it to where that doesn't happen as much is something that we overlook when it comes to walking in the prophetic and operating it in in like a biblical structure was that they were talking about let somebody be there to judge it let someone judge the prophecies they hold on I don't know I don't know if that's I don't think that's the Lord right if so if you was to say that to someone they'll get offended because you're supposed to be like everything that's firing is from God you know what I'm saying and so if they gave them a word now you got to give them a word now you got to give demo words so you're just like okay fire on all cylinders and but the scripture says have somebody judge it have somebody who's like who's not even like in a position of power maybe in the congregation maybe they're their spiritual they're equipped but they're just they're just like sound mind people who to be able to judge it I hold on dude that's kind of about that I don't know if that's the Lord right into the end to be able to to bring forth correction especially in a place of believers who were who were being taught so that that's kind of one of the things that has been overlooked and I've been around those people who are just spouting off those things and there is a distinction there so here's the decipher between the two because prophesying is simply speaking as an Oracle of the Lord opening up your mouth and declaring and so anything that is in here and is smoking out is a prophecy deed this is a book of prophecies right so there are generic prophecies that are in here that we have the ability if we know the word and it's God's written on our heart we can share those prophet those prophecies what when we're in prayer praying the scriptures even and we declare the scriptures we're declaring the word of God the Oracles of God as a prophetic manner so we know we can declare God's love we can declare the end of a dry season we can there's things that that we as children of the Most High knowing the Oracles of God we can declare in it be okay because it's in the it's in the scripture it's his truth we know God's heart and it's a it's a now word it's not a word that was here 2,000 years ago it's a living word it's for today for us to come out of our dry seasons for us to to walk in newness to walk in health to walk in prosperity we can speak these things out as they are today and moving in faith that's being able to look at a situation or a season or a cycle to be able to speak to the things that are not as though they were to be able to see something maybe in a in a fallen state or a former state and be able to have that vision to see what God wants to do with it to see what this army of dry bones would look like if they were walking around in a strong vibrant army again as they once were now with a valley of dry bones but the scripture says that they prophesied to the dry bones they spoke the word of the Lord and the bones begin to stand up and get flesh on them and they came to life and it's speaking the word of life and he says my words are life so prophesying is speaking through the breath declaring the Oracles of God speaking life back to the dead places going around and seeing dead places and dry places and speaking life giving it water coming in eat and drink so there's that and I think we're safe in that and declaring the Oracles of God but I don't think that's a book deal I don't think that's you know a new husband the guy you with now isn't the right one you know God's got another one coming for you like hold on that's that's the first of all that goes against the word some of the writings right second of all you got to make sure that it's on point you have a lot of people who listen to maybe even podcasts like these so you have to be careful that you don't have eaching ears and that you're just looking for people to tell you what you want to hear because you'll find those people you'll support their work you'll support their ministry you'll buy their books they're all that stuff because they're telling you what you want to hear make sure that it is truth that is the word of truth and you're not just you don't have eaching ears and you're just wanting to hear you're paying somebody to tell you you're paying somebody to tell you what you want to hear people talk about Joel Osteen and all of these they call them false you know those heresy hunters if Joel Osteen Benny Hinn's they're false prophets and and they're taking money from people they're not taking money from anybody those people are willingly giving their money because they're telling them what they want to hear and they resonate with it I don't think that those guys are bad or false prophets I'm not saying that but I'm saying that where your money is what your treasure is there your heart will be also you're gonna naturally support the things that you believe in so I know that's kind of a side side tangent but prophesying the word what do you know about that just being in prayer and there's a bunch man I don't I don't have a lot of examples right now but there's a bunch that you can just declare the Oracles of God it doesn't have to be a divine download as what I'm saying it doesn't have to be all the Lord said you're coming out or the Lord said he's gonna come through no he's already said he's coming through let me minister what that would sound like or what that would look like let me articulate that for you a little bit right amen amen and and yeah let me add this to it too because to what you're saying it's important to have that the gift of prophecy and so I'm gonna go off a little bit here but because the Holy Spirit was telling me but you talk about where you know if we have the Holy Spirit then why are we not acting right so I want to go back - you're saying Lowell ago because the Holy Spirit just laid this on me I might hold out Carlos you need to let them know what's going on here I'm like okay okay I got it so if we have the Holy Spirit because Jesus said in John chapter 14 16 17 he says I will ask the Father to give you a counselor who is the Holy Spirit so if we have the Holy Spirit then why don't we have accuracy right we need to depend on the Holy Spirit and then you talked about the scriptures and the word and that being said over here a praetor first Peter chapter 2021 to talked about above all you must realize that no prophecy in scripture ever came from the prophets own understanding or from human initiative no those prophets were moved by the Holy Spirit and they spoke from God so you're right when we look at the Bible is this week we serve a God of Prophecy he's telling us what's coming and that book but it wasn't by the prophets mouth it was by the movement of the Holy Spirit of God Spirit his divine counsel and spirit and wisdom and knowledge and love is all packed in that book is to tell us so therefore let me back up here back to the training and back to those who are receiving and you think that you're giving something and you think we're check use the tool 1 and number number 1 and number 2 use the break tell God to break the visit down for you you know and but yeah I mean move because it's the Holy Spirit is gonna give the interpretation it's the Holy Spirit's gonna give you the accurate word because the scripture tells us in first Peter 2021 that it was the Holy Spirit that gave us the scriptures so that is I call fire that's called fire love I also say it this way love with fire and so that's my next tide I'll be sending that to you I'm giving a future here so love with fire everybody you know and when you operate out of a place of love and you operate out of a place of fire come on so love with fire everybody you know and yeah so go right ahead brother yeah man you know loving with fire that you know what's a deep revelation for me just the scripture talks about that that love is what fuels our faith to first be able to have faith to tap into these god-given abilities and and and the spirit of discernment and the spirit of prophecy and things like that it's it's all out of love when I went back you know when I was speaking in a lot of charges and stuff I wouldn't tap into the prophetic or anything if my life wasn't lined up like a find if I had any struggles or any unconfessed sin or anything going on I wouldn't touch it at all mainly because I knew that I couldn't receive that I'm a channel for God's heart I'm a channel for the Holy Spirit to speak to and through and if I had stuff going on it would get in the way of my communication with the Father like I could still see things and discern and things like that but to really you know reveal his heart it was it's like an integrity issue like an integrity game that I wanted to make sure that nothing was skewed and it was all just coming from the father's heart so that was just something I would do it I wouldn't tap into the prophetic if I had stuff going on or I wasn't full of faith or I hadn't been you know seeking the father in secret but then I'm out here ministering and stuff like that like I could IFIF would feel like a fake and I just felt like the devotion that the father has called me to to operate in to maintain and to Stewart these giftings comes with a high price like people see this podcast and again we talk about this stuff nonchalantly oh yeah prophetic hearing God's voice yeah yeah but it's like we went through a lot like you had to to walk in the anointing you had to be pressed in order for that anointing to come out and so to carry God's presence you have to go through these testings and trials and the Lord is the one who orchestrates it all he's the author and he's the finisher he uses all types of spirits and demons and hey if you play with you're gonna get burned I'm trying to teach you I don't want you to I wish you would learn it but if you're gonna go do it I got some guys who are gonna meet you there these two spirits are gonna follow you you know and it's God lets it happen Hey choose that or choose me choose life I'm here bro I want you but if you're gonna continue to choose that then these guys are these demons or spirits they're gonna keep showing up these addictions these vices are gonna keep coming back as long as you keep entertaining that stuff seeing how this whole sanctification process works just a hammering process of God being the the Potter and we are the clay and he's shaping us and molding us into the image but he uses all of these spirits to do so it's a beautiful process it's an intricate process and and and receiving the anointing walking with the anointing and carrying it I really man I go back and read the scriptures and we read about the baptism of fire it talks about coming for baptisms and so it's the baptism he's our baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire and we've always been told that like that was maybe two different baptisms like you received the Holy Spirit when you confess Christ and that other people believe it in a second baptism where the fire would come down upon you and you really received that baptism of the Holy Spirit now that's even scriptural there are times where they had the Holy Spirit or there was people who followed Christ and were preaching and proclaiming for months and they had it hadn't even heard of a Holy Spirit and it hadn't had didn't even have it they prayed and they were able to receive it and they had an encounter and they begin to prophesy right when they received it but as I look a little bit deeper this this baptism of fire is up as a baptism of purity and and you're signing up to die you're signing up to carry your cross and it's just as gold that is being purified by fire and all of the impurities come out when you know when know situate your friends are gossiping about you when they book you for a church to come minister and then it's hey are we seeing something on your Facebook we don't we're not we don't want you to come you know you there's this these letdowns and all of these things in I mean I even I was supposed to speak on a Christian show yesterday or day before yesterday and they read some of the stuff in my book and they just said now we're not gonna do it I don't want to do it so you know it's part of its letdown how do you handle the letdown how do you handle the gossip how do you handle the failure how do you handle the trials do you fold or are you a person of integrity and have you learned to carry the anointing can you carry the fire and God is the author and finisher I'm telling that's what my book is about heck that's what the Bible is about yeah he is the author of us going through this inner working spiritual alchemy sanctification process he knows what he's doing and he's looking for people he can trust he's looking for people who were lusting after the spiritual gifts but who he can trust to tell the secrets to Jeremiah 33:3 it would call him to me I want answer you will show you great mighty things that you do not know it cannot find out see there's a problem because people try to get into the occult they get they try to come in through other gates and by other means and they're trying to get into this and the wisdom and knowledge stuff but they're coming they're trying to get it without calling unto him he said come all unto me I just want you to talk to me man I love you I created you I got some things I want to show you you're trying to get to it without me it's Simon the sorcerer it's the way of man it's the left hand hand path versus the right hand path and God man this he gives those gifts freely and the gifts are without repentance people can operate in those abilities and giftings if they're full of sin they can have so much sin going on for me it was an integrity issue I wouldn't touch it I probably could have if I wanted to again I was still receiving stuff but I didn't want to operate in that end that stuff we're having on confessing going on but people do it every day people do it every day man and so I think the name of the game is the the inner working of caring then the anointing the hammering process and receiving the true fire of God not just to shake and feel the fire in your stomach that feels good but what about three days later when they gossiping about you part of a cult now now you diner shake with the Holy Roller knowing him you lose your job you know you lose your friends and stuff you know the right and it's just part of this whole Walkman yeah yeah yeah so true I mean you're you're following I mean while your group ends up becoming smaller you know because now you now you now you're speaking out of purity like I said you know you're speaking out a fire your your heart is being moved by by God's love and so it's important I always look at using the fire as as our own solar system you know in our solar system we got this this planet called the Sun and so on one side the Sun is the one that helps a lot of you know keeps us warm and helps us grow you know and on when when the earth turns you know and it becomes on one side of the earth you got you got the heat the Sun radiating what we call heat and then it comes up on us and we keeps we stay warm so God's always providing that oneness in our life and our bodies and our souls and our spirits but also not only is it providing for us but he's also providing it for nature you know and then and then what you're on the other side of the world the earth you have what they call night and so you got once day and one night and on the other side it's dark it's cold you know and sometimes it's warm in some areas and in the world but at night but you you have to have light and so that's why we have lights you know and so in order for us to see and so I sometimes I I always feel like that's God's presence like anything we do we need to see we need light to see what God is doing and so when we mean when I say this is because when we're going through our seasons that we're going to are our prony season an autumn season our summer season yeah you know we're going to all these seasons and we can't see what God's doing that that's why it's important to have someone who season to pour into our life because that's what God wants us to to lean towards towards people who can pour into us pour some of that oil on us right pour some of that warmth on those God wants to warm us up yeah and so is also at the same time when we do encounter that that angry prophet or that bitter prophet and he is operating from a heart it's because he means well but at the same time there's some unforgiveness that's inside there that we need to have God come in and warm us up we can't survive without the solar we can't survive without the Sun just like we can't survive without God yeah it is that guy who I bro right right our brothers I rather struggle with God in my life they got not involved mm-hmm you know what I'm saying that's that's deep to me you know because God God is God is real man he's evident and so that being said I mean he's warm his love is warm we ever hear in a worship setting you feel that oneness of God just come upon you man I mean you got the brother up there the sister up there just pipe it you know pipe in it and just letting it out and praising God you know and you could feel the annoy just get slapped with some oil wonder up there you know I'm saying and and so that's the warm this man so yeah I mean love has a lot to do with it because our Sun provides the love for us God provides the fire the purity and the love for us so it's important to operate in God's presence and again I want to stress this out one more time if Jesus said I will leave to the Father and send you a comforter the Holy Spirit you know let's let's rely on the Holy Spirit for the next prophetic word out there you know activate yourself get hunger get deeper get stronger get more accurate I know there's some self taught brethren out there you know their self taught they just the relying rely rely cuz they ain't got nobody to pour into them as teaching so if yourself taught I've ran into self taught brethren and sisters out there and their self taught their little rough around the edges I just want to you know robably one of them a little recant they can't figure it out he kind of interpreted this way that way yeah bottom line rely on the Holy Spirit cuz he lives in you and he wants to be accurate yeah man that's a that's a that's a weird one especially with you know the self-taught people or the offended people the offended prophets defended believers who who operate out of offense they may be even deep they may be even have a they carry the anointing but they operate out of offense it's out there always you know thinking of that rejection and stuff and that's something if you don't catch it early man that thing take take root man defense is a strong one that you have to deal with and so sometimes those people their little unorthodoxed I mean to really grow in the prophetic and and to not have a structure and have to go through the wilderness to learn all that stuff yourself right it can be done it's it's not fun you know if it's been teaching you that way that's just that's how you know that's your story but a lot of those people man it's hard for them they're not welcome in churches you know they're too rough around the edges they're always they maybe don't operate out of love it's always that there are the only ones who are right like you get into some weird stuff but their pursuit came out of a good place but they've just been out there by themselves for so long that they don't work well with others you know right and there's those people out there I mean we've we've run into them you know they have you know what churches and or small home gatherings but they just they're just out and he's just out of the box man you know yeah you know what it's crazy because when I first started operating out of out of out of the gift of prophecy when I first started before I well I'm not gonna say it this way I'm gonna say it I'd say differently so when I went up when I encountered to get the prophecy when is when I released witchcraft in my life it's like you had a testimony you were saying earlier about how you were you know serving other spirits and this that yeah my family too I was serving you know witchcraft you know I've come from an indigenous tribe and so you know we're all into that and so and that being said I was operating I remember back then before I was either saved I was operating out of senses all the time but it was and then I would read people with a car reading and I was reading all the negative in people and so when you know I'm fast forward when I started going to church I start I started I'm like you know I'm started here in the gospel is being laboured in my life the word was being sown in my life and then I got hungry for God I started reading the word and I started discovering to get the prophecy well when that transition from the witchcraft when it transitioned it started transitioning little by little but and then I was getting again I was getting negative stuff well what happened was I went to some inner healing and I repented and I did some renouncing of witchcraft in my life and when I renounced that all the negative became more edifying it just transitioned from negativity to positive and that positive is what is described in 1st Corinthians 12 it was edifying the bottom now so some of us can that's my testimony but some of us you know out there that have encountered the witchcraft in our family's life and you're wondering why you know this is important when you're wondering why you you you sensing things in the church but it's always negative maybe we have little renounce and we gotta do you know in our own bodies and our own minds because of what our family did yeah and me I was a practicing I was a practicing of a Hispanic indigenous tribe witchcraft person my dad did it my auntie did it and his auntie's did it his parents did it and then I started practicing I think I was like maybe about a year and a half maybe two years in practicing but still that's enough you know and then I start teaching my daughters but all that being said all that negative spiritual stuff started engaging into my prophetic and so the only way it be transitions from negative to positive is renouncing witchcraft in my life and saying dear Jesus I renounce the spirit of which crash and so I started leaning towards in that and when I I could feel things breaking out from often like the power of God just came upon me and then it became and then after so many so many repeating of what was going on or the practices I started I heard the first encounter with God I heard a voice and that voice told me that he loved me and that was God's place and then I seen a vision right after that and I seen myself on a swing and when I was six years old being pushed on the swing and I had my eyes closed as I was renounced I see myself on the swing and behind me now was swinging me was a man in a white cloak and I said who is you and then I asked who is this and he said I'm Jesus I love you so renouncing from the negative to the positive ended up becoming what we call now problem with fire activation and training so the hunger builds up to that and so all this being said I'm feel the Holy Spirit is telling me hey just tell the audience that if there is someone out there operating in this you can renounce and just come to Jesus and renounce the things that are in your family that are hanging onto you and if you they are the angry prophet you are the better prophet if you are prophesy from a place of bitterness remember if you have been in your heart that you got no room for love so I want to encourage you to just ask Jesus to remove that bitterness I show you how to move that business and just often we can seat you how to operate from a place of love brother man you know what I'm getting some weird weird revelation here um and I don't know how I had to look into it but speaking about this bitterness it was almost when Jesus was being crucified by you know the people he was on the cross and they tried to give him the bitter water there was a concoction that they they made and it was bitter they tried to make him drink of the of bitterness and if he would have drank it it would have made him it would kind of numbed him yeah from you know all the pain in the bruising and everything he was going through on the cross and his bones breaking and being beat by his own people the bitterness the bitter water symbolizing bitterness numbs you and you have a right now you have a right to be offended you know and Jesus had all the right to be upset with Peter Peter bro you thought you had my back you denied me okay you're done cut you off I can't trust you right no I got right Jesus had all the reason to walk in the fence to become bitter and and he didn't man and he didn't as really interest I've never heard that that you know the the cup of the bitter water that he they tried to make him drink and he wouldn't drink and how that represents bitterness and how it would have made him numb and how bitterness makes us numb and it gives us a right it'll it'll numb your feelings it'll it'll numb the feeling of the Holy Spirit to renounce it until you get rid of it I think this is a good place to end man let's let's end out in a prayer for anybody and I think there's people listening who don't even know it there's some people who know it you deal with it every day and you see it whatever happened it's unforgiveness and bitterness and you have a right you have it but you have to give up your right to be right it's become something familiar it's become something good you got to give up what seems to be good to receive that which is great from the Father so let's pray for those people man who are dealing with with bitterness and again I believe that there's people listening they don't even know it and as we pray they're gonna feel it lifts off of them let's step out and practice our prophetic ability for us as the ones who are gonna minister the healing to the people and for the ones listening maybe you feel like it's you I want you to prophetically even if you don't know it if none of this stuff is coming up to your mind if you don't know what we're talking about just say this prayer just say father I give up the bitterness I ask you to take this from me take the bitterness and take the offense that's the prayer I'm gonna let you lead then I'm out finish up the prayer as well brother so let's just tap in you know what I've actually got I think I've got some let's hear some prayer music that we can play I love this this music so this is put on this music man and just for those people and I think this is something just to show you the power of the prophetic that even though you don't know yourself that well God knows everything about you and there's some he knows the deep hidden chambers of our hearts man he wants to come in he wants to do surgery and that's what the Holy Spirit does so let's let him do it man let's go ahead and let's do a prayer okay God thank you for your mercy father just your turn the mercies your love and your grace kind thank you so much for just the heart everything you give us every day father past present and future and and we can't live without your father so thank you again for your tender mercies your love and your grace Lord I just want to lift up right now anybody father I want to lift up anybody right now listening father that they're in a place of bitterness and not exception they're in a place of not being accepting you know I'm getting the word brother can I share yeah go ahead yeah okay so I'm getting the word that that somebody's dealing with the with a family issues and so they're not being accepted by their family and and and and so they're just somebody out there listening and not being accepted by their family right now and and they feel they feel like there's no return like they feel drowned and depression and because they're not having to be accepted when the Lord wants you to just repeat after me he says dear Jesus I know you died on the cross from me I want to accept you as my Lord and Savior and my god dear Holy Spirit come into my life right now transform me and break the oppression of bitterness and depression and suicide off my life news right now in Jesus name I now accept the prophetic realm God that you are bringing and that you have we let me become the next prophet of my community and to my family and father restored though it has been broken between the family and my enemy I could feel something lifted off some body right now and he says restore what has been broken divided between what the enemy has done to divide me and my family and and and bring in restoration of love of connection and unity so dear Jesus I serve you from my heart my my my soul and thank you Jesus for anointing me and filling me with the grace of your love and the power and the fire of the Holy Spirit in Jesus name Amen I believe deaf they're family you're speaking of as well may even be a church family it may be a fellowship of some friends that God is restoring that as well and then for some it may be dealing with the immediate related family so save that if that's you father thank you Lord for your grace God for your mercy and kindness guy that you freely show to your sons and daughters father God we were nothing without you we thank you for allowing us to be here allowing us to talk about you and our experiences and finally I said with two or three are gathered there I am in the midst other so we know that you here and we know that you've been working on people's hearts this whole time God so whoever this is for if it's just for that one person no matter where they are whether they're driving a vehicle the riding in the backseat they're sitting at home wherever they are God you know the inner workings of the of their heart Jesus the one who knows everything about about all of us you know how many hairs we have on our head you know yes yes I even saw you formed us in our mother's womb you knew who we were and you knew that we would be here you knew that we'd be talking about this you knew that we'd be listening yes and you knew that we'd be dealing with bitterness and you knew that you would come through and send forth the Holy Ghost to remove it right now just give it up bitterness offense right now in Jesus and leave God I just think it for your healing I thinking for your Holy Spirit that comes to make all things new you can move it as far as the East is from the West and make it just as though it has never happened just as though it's never happened has she gone in Jesus mighty name and they see the spirit of peace right now peace peace peace and Jesus mighty name God we thank you thank you for your glory Lord simply contingent upon your love for them just because you love them God that you'll be willing to move heaven and earth to speak to them right now where they are doing that heart surgery right now getting it out and deep rooted bitterness god I pray that it comes up with tears all the way yes even as an offering God let it flow break it all up right now destroy it the scripture says that the anointing breaks the yoke of bondage when offense offense is a yoke of bondage a spirit of heaviness we rebuke it right now in Jesus on earth peace peace peace in Jesus name Lord we honor you Lord we thank you for everything blessed of God give him peace God Jesus name Amen and amen finally man brother man I could be here all day praying right to do it man I just keep good excuses man I see we get so busy it's like mud this this is an excuse for us even just to tap in you know right and just to let him know how good he is man you know yeah bless the Lord glory glory glory glory fire more fire God hallelujah bless you I move far more far more come on old Eagles right now more bring it more more more more MORE give up more that'll be the presence of a little bigger presence more now Jesus name increased increase it right now more just increase increase increase minimize minimize what's in the mind increase what's in the water yes increase what's in the heart father we sever everytime father in the name of Jesus it's just like if I had spoke earlier about them repenting from witchcraft father like the book of Acts were they all all the witches came to burn their Western because of your power and presence so we counsel the assignment of every book that has been on people's lives right now we just break that assignment off right now in Jesus name what power and presence of the Holy Spirit right now and we call for activation in tons of his gifts and healing and miracles that you're gonna touch the audience right now in Jesus name and you're gonna assign that the miracles and the healings and prophecies and tongues and everything that the Spirit distributes and that Paul talks about in first Corinthians father how the spirit distributes wisdoms and even word of knowledge guy and so we bestowed that we are we ask the Holy Ghost right now to come and assignment and activate every here and every atheist right now that is listening and says man I don't know if there's a guy but you know I know there's a higher power right now Holy Ghost ask right now that you would activate their heart or mind and and release them from the doubt that they're going through right now in Jesus mighty name your main man down in the drought in Jesus name come on dry seasons man put me right about it with just some rain send the Rhine Lord that's right well I think you good and give up my offense - it's not a one-time thing people every day I lay it at his feet man right yeah I was offended this week man oh I said I preached on their BIOS I preached on in Sunday and I said man you know what regardless of mine what was the one was brought to me and I got offended I still forgive him you know cuz it was out of proportion you know what was happening but you know love conquers all man and so I just got a love on the body you know just love on or man yeah man they don't do they don't they don't see it you know the way you see it they all right been through the testing in the trial you know they're just kind of just judging from the outside they don't you know the scripture says Father forgive them for they know not what they do can't hold it against them you should you have the right to but trust me you don't want to do it it's not worth it right it's not worth it for you it's not worth it for them release them forgive them and send them on their way peace of God so that it doesn't hinder you on your journey because guys gotten so much stuff he wants to give us so much that he wants to show us in reveal to us but he's not gonna let us operate in it out of a bitterness out of anger offense and hurt he's has to he has like to send forth the healing the Lord spoke to my heart some years ago and said heal the healers heal the healers what do what do what we're doing this is healing just simply a man scene releasing the things that are holding you back there's people are trying to ascend they're trying to go to new levels with God but they can't because they're weighed down because of the cares of the world because the deceitfulness of riches because of the offense they get offended if we look at the parable of the seed that fell among the different grounds and some of it fell upon rocks and some of it fell upon the ground and begin to take root and but then I didn't get enough water some of it came up and and they were choked out by the other weeds and the other things that choked them out and that represents the cares of the world and these are the cares of the world you know caring about the things that are just temporary the things that don't really matter that we've essentially created a mountain out of a molehill trying to take the plank out of someone's eye when we have a log within our own just giving it all to God as a sacrifice man lay it on the altar he answers with fire I just look at stuff God send you Fire Lord is this acceptable okay you take it he sends us fireman and and I can't do Christianity I can't do religion I can't do spirituality without the fire of God all of it burns into vain vanity all of it turns into vexation of spirit it is about a fellowship with God the Living Word of God who knows where we are in each each and every one of us whatever how peculiar or different that situation is man he knows and he brought you there for a reason and maybe some things that he wants to teach you if it's just teaching you how to lay it down that's a lesson in and of itself I want to teach you how to lay it down I'm gonna give you this stuff just to see if you'll give it back he's done it with dreams and visions and callings and he's giving me callings and put these things upon my heart and I'm okay thank you God is like I want him back what you just gave him to me you told me I was gonna know I want him back I don't want to yeah I've changed my mind and in our heart were like hold on how you want to give us something to take it back and then I there was a season in my life I went about almost three years of just fighting with God and what He has called me to and going in the dry season and and uh and I would get in his presence and I was being worship and I would feel that I could feel when the Holy Ghost is near and it would hit a brick wall and he will turn like I would feel it just about to be raptured allies spirit and it would just leave because I knew I had unconfessed sin in my life and there was some things that he was asking of me and I said no I'm not willing to go there and it was callings it was dreams but when he led me to a place of brokenness and when I was finally like you know what Lord hear this I know I got to lay it down soon as I laid it down he hit it with this fire he purified it and gave it right back come on so the whole time I thought he was trying to take something away from me he just gave me a vision only that to lord it over me and take it take it away said no I just need to fix it I mean it's messed up the way you have it right now it's not complete and it's just in the same story of Abraham and Isaac you know Abraham God's like how you know I love I love these these offerings that you're giving me in these cows and burnt offerings and rams and grain offerings but what your son Abraham's like why let me sacrifice my son there yeah I want your son I don't know about that God you gave me my son this is um I was you gave I'm - over see him to make sure that nothing bad happens to him I've been cultivating this thing for his whole life and in this relationship you only give him - yeah lay him on the altar if you don't if you love me okay goes up to the altar and finally brings them to the top of the mountain and lays them on the altar and he's about to sacrifice his son unto God in the last second before he comes through to kill him this is a picture story people before he sacrifices his own son God provides an offering there was a ram caught in the thicket and he said well what sacrifice the RAM give me the RAM instead I don't want your son it just wants to see if you love the thing more than you love him do you love your bitterness more than you love his presence do you love your offense more than you love the fire do you are you comfortable in that in order to go where God's calling you you gotta learn to get uncomfortable when you go through change it's gonna be uncomfortable and that's why people just stay in seasons and they stay stuck in mindsets for years is because they're not willing to make the changes that they need to make and it's stuck in mindsets for 20 30 40 years and they take it to their grave and they never fulfill their calling they never fulfill their destiny because of offense and because of hurt because they have not trusted it to the Lord he just wants to see if you'll give it to him his work his ways are higher his thoughts are so much better just give it to him whatever it is it's different for all of us and all we can do is just be open and honest and hope that you would be able to relate these things within your own life and within your own heart because God knows what he's doing man so I just encourage you guys with that man that's my story I'm an open book literally just wrote a book and put all this stuff in there I go into all this stuff in the book it's the sanctification process of the hammering process of learning to pass those tests if we want to ascend if we want to get to the places that God is calling us to we gotta let go of some stuff we gotta get rid of it might be people in our lives maybe mindset mostly it's fear we gotta get rid of fear we gotta get rid of ungodly beliefs putting words in God's mouth and thinking it's him he's never said such thing hold on you think I don't like what makes you think that I would say that well I knew a guy well my pastor said no I'm not like that at all and it's just deep journey of exploration man and I dare you to do it I dare you to move man I dare you to trust God at His Word and just do it you know take you people Oh your mind man he'll blow your mind the mind is blown every day of do not even worthy I don't deserve it right but I think I think that it's because I've been found faithful with it I think that he's continuing to bless me you know I've had all these experiences and encounters and I continue to have more you know for just his presence and him working with me and working on me and using me and opening doors like I don't feel like I deserve any of it a blessed family blessing finances I don't deserve any of it man but it's because he's found me faithful you know he's given me the desires of my heart and he wants to he desires to do that like he wants to do it for all of us that's not I'm not like special he's just looking for people he can trust you don't to give you all of this stuff and show you how in the inner workings and in like you you hang yourself with it you know what I'm saying you got too much you don't know how to handle power and authority you don't know how to handle gossip and and blogs in and back by you know how to handle it it kill you but you got to die in order to live take up your cross and follow him he says he who is looking to find his life must lose it got to lose your life man you have to die to him we die and be reborn through the spirit and that's a daily process honestly doing it daily I die daily man that's what it's about man dude I appreciate you coming on hanging out let people know where they can check out your work man I know you're real active on social media what's the best links and things like that where people can check out your work and what you're doing right now I'm just gonna you can connect with me on rising Saints ministries off Facebook I don't have an IG or anything like that but we are expanding the marketing next year um I didn't speaking that look hello earlier but you can hit 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man blessings over you and the family and and I'll be hitting you up soon amen thank you bro all right brother you know what that piece trees I write Carlos Martinez ladies and gentlemen good friend man I do a lot of his graphic artists Flyers for his intensives and a lot of his ministry graphics and stuff so we've built a relationship over the last couple years and he's a good brother believe in what he's doing and especially the home meeting aspect like the churches is cool right I like you know operating in churches but there's something about the home meeting I was I got saved at a home gathering I got born again and actually the prophetic has a big lot to do with it and I don't know if many of you guys know my my story but I've shared it a couple times I was my mom sort of dating this guy and we moved in with with him and his family and his son was in his late 20s and he was a Christian he was always going to church and prayer meetings and something he would always invite me to go to church with him and I never wanted to go and I was into I was into some dog stuff even then you know but I was just I was still young I think I was 13 he's inviting me to go to all of these church services and I'm trying to go to church bro that's okay I rather you know play video games or whatever the case is he'd always inviting I wouldn't go but then he was inviting me to go to these prayer meetings and I didn't want to go to no prayer means if I didn't want to go to church I definitely don't wanna go to a prayer meeting but it was one particular one where he said that a prophet would be there so he said that and a prophet was gonna be at this prayer meeting and I'm 13 year old me I didn't know what it was what a prophet was I said what's a prophet he said well a prophet is like a Christian psychic is what he told me and that caught my interest I said Christian psyche as I sure how come that I had man for sure so I went and and went there to go see this prophet and write someone who moves in a prophetic and you know and it really wasn't the prophet who won me over man it was this God's heart you know I remember going there with my cousin and they were all worshipping God they put on some worship music and it really blew my mind because these people they're probably like 15 20 people in this little apartment and they all had their eyes closed they all had their hands raised and they just look like they were somewhere else you know they're sitting in this apartment they're just they're sinking in there some of them are crying and I'm like man I was it was really weird cuz me and my cousin were just sitting there like watch it all this happened and then uh but I felt like a transference they're like I wanted what they had I knew that they had something that I didn't have and one of the guys brother Barry he just came over and sat by me on the couch and he said hey brother do you want to ask Jesus to forgive you of your sins do you want Jesus to forgive you of your sins and to answer that question honestly yeah I don't want him to hold my sins against me I mean I would be silly for someone to say no I'm I'm good in my you know no even if I'm if I wasn't planning on changing or anything like that like you know a lot of people in the street a lot of thugs and people in the Mafia cartel like they're really religious people they pray you know what I'm saying they ask God to forgive them every night they go to bed even though they know they've done some of the most heinous stuff on the planet so when he asked me if God if I want God to forgive me of my sins I'm like totally I've done some stuff to stuff that only God knows and and those are the things that are scary man because again man looks at the outward appearance but God looks at the heart like I've done stuff man that man I'm dead I'm ashamed of you know what I'm saying that maybe nobody else knows about even as a kid you know so anyway I asked him he asked me that I said yes so he prayed with me and I asked Jesus to come into my heart forgive me of my sins cleanse me from all unrighteousness acknowledging the fact that he died on the cross for my sins so I prayed that prayer and immediately I just begin to cry and weep and my body just started shaking and I started to burn with like this fervent heat and it just engulfed my whole body and I was just in tears and I felt like all the bad all the wrong that I had ever done was immediately burnt up by this heat this fire of God the baptism of the Holy Spirit upon confession upon acknowledging Christ the Holy Spirit immediately came into my life and changed me that was in 1998 that I gave my life to Christ and it was one of the most beautiful experiences of my life another beautiful experience kind of going back to the conversation was when he was talking about renouncing some things getting rid of some things and so there was so much that happened in my life of confessing Christ as my savior there's so much stuff that fell off but even after a few years there was I got deeper into witchcraft and had to come back that's when I went out there and got real crazy and going schizophrenic and all that kind of stuff dealing with those demons but after that asking Christ to come back you know I want I wanted that relationship that I had a couple years before the Lord comes back into my life and I just repent and I get rid of everything that I had that wasn't that didn't bring him glory right in my life so I got rid of all that stuff but there was an inner working there was some forgiveness that had to be done there was some you know family lineage that needed to be cleansed of things that I had no idea about and it was some people who were in - they called it at the time it was Christian prophetic prayer counseling but I think now it's more along lines of what's known as soso or deliverance ministry as you people call it but it was just this long list of going through maybe lies that you've believed and there was this weird once know it it's like remember there were questions like has the inner said has the devil ever told you you had cancer has the devil level devil ever told you you had AIDS and he had the devil ever told you you were gay you know all these weird questions like but just for you it brings it up it's like it's not stuff you think about all the time right beside you kind of Sir Charlie Huff had these weird thoughts that maybe I had cancer or maybe this or in it and then just going over your your family lineage you know your background you know from a Native American culture and stuff so a lot of it was denouncing that and in denouncing like the stuff that's happened to you the childhood traumas the childhood wounds and stuff that we have you know molestation comes into play abandonment not having a father in your life a mother in your life rejection you know what I'm saying and all of that stuff comes into play we don't even know it so I was identifying that stuff and then releasing it and very much so like the vision that Carlos had was the people who walk me through it was to kind of go back to those situations and to see Jesus coming into it to like relive it in your mind play it out but didn't see Jesus coming into it and saying what would he say to this situation where would Jesus because he was there where is he and I was just able as I was able to see Jesus in all of those situations I immediately got healing from that as I renounced it and I believed and I wanted it so those were like the two like really big in impactful moments in my life the first was just coming to Christ but then there was so much more that just got released of when I got rid of all of this other baggage that I quite frankly didn't even know I was there there's a lot of churches and a lot of ministry who just stately laugh at this stuff Todd white who was somebody that I respect and in Christian ministry he laughs at this stuff they scoff at inner healing and deliverance ministry and he's went through it he's went through it in his own life and they laugh at it it's powerful there were things that I would that I was doing that was stemmed from some of this deep deep rooted hurt that I needed to identify and let go and because I didn't know it was there and I would go into fits of rage my wife would tell me stuff that I didn't like and I would punch a hole in the wall and man just remember just grabbing the steering wheel and trying to wreck us off the road as a Christian man like as a believer bought with the blood filled with the Holy Ghost you know but there was some inner things that I had to get rid of and half healing for and that inner deliverance ministry really helped me all of that stuff ended man so man that that's my story if you guys haven't heard and I mean there's so much more there's there's there's a lot of other milestones in my life that bring about other things but those are like the two early ones in coming into a relationship with Christ that really changed my life so man this was a good episode I've been reading out comments and people are in tears and just man it's awesome the Holy Ghost man he knows what he's doing let him do it he's the best one he could do it better than we can my book again plug in the book the link is in the description I'm doing autographed copies now so the link is on in the description I'll just go to my website true seeker com I will autograph it and ship it out to you it's a beautiful book there's a lot of like it's eclectic there's a lot of pictures for those of you who like pictures it's got some pictures of angels and exorcisms and demons and all kinds of stuff so check it out man you can check out the some of it on the with the table of contents is on on the website too so you can just do an overview did an interview with Alfred Lambeau Mont Weber yesterday from XO politics TV that was a really good interview we pretty much went through each chapter and I gave him an overview of each chapter so there's like 16 chapters or 16 parts in it and I just gave them an overview of each one so it's quite extensive and I'll share that out on my website when that that interview is released as well so make sure y'all check that out so with that I'm gonna say peace of Shalom and thank you guys for hanging out with me thank you guys for all the love and all of the support it means the world man I just want to be a good steward with what God has entrusted me with and you know I think that I'm doing a decent job at that you know what I'm saying so thank you guys for believing in the work and partnering with me in ministry I really do believe that you guys share in the fruits of this like the fruits of this labor like this book like not just the book the podcast like if there if I didn't have the support like I have it now and how many people who who actually you know I'm saying come come through and believe in the work this wouldn't be here I give this this episode what we experienced we encountered today it wouldn't happen without the support and there's people who support on many different levels there's people who go above and beyond there's people who just signed up for $1 a month and if we have a thousand people giving $1 a month it that adds up man every little bit helps and I think you guys share in the harvest you may not have the book but trust me the book would not be here there is no way like at all as much time and effort I told myself right at the end like I had been writing it for about a year and I told myself I was like let me just devote it because I had it I had a week come up where there was I didn't have any podcast lined up so I didn't have any podcast lined up so like you know what I'm gonna take this week and I'm gonna devote the rest of this understand Tyre week to this book now obviously here and there I had a couple designs and things like that that I had to work on for people and probably call us was one of them making some flyers for you but you know I did some other stuff too but that that week was devoted to getting the book finished and out I gave myself a week that we turned into two months of work of trying to finish this thing up getting it in the right format finding the pictures like there's just so much work so again it wouldn't be here without your help its support and prayers and encouragement and friendship everything we are co-creators man you guys collaborated on this effort with me it wouldn't be here without your help you need to know that and I thank you and I'm grateful that you believed in the vision and and I believe that every soul that it touched every person that it sets free that you got sharing a part of that I really do thank you guys from the bottom of my heart got some more shows lined up got some more podcasts I think we've got another show lined up today actually with Brock Weaver who's a UFC fighter he's about to get into the UFC actually was about to fight his debut fight on TV on the UFC but he got hurt and he's right down the road from me he's local so we got a local guy and he's uh he is a Jesus Freak but he's a warrior fighter so I'm like you know I'm gonna get him on here so hopefully we'll be doing that probably in two hours I think we're lined up for two o'clock so make sure y'all hang around for that if you're listening on the podcast app it'll be available in a couple days let's see so we got that and then Thursday night we talked about this I've been trying to set this up but Thursday night after the school of the Mystics if you want to join us for school of the Mystics and engage in the prophetic make sure you you get access to that by becoming a patron at any level you'll get an inbox invite and all that kind of stuff Thursday night 7:00 p.m. Central but after the school of the Mystics I'll be interviewing seventh brother seven seven deuce from hog mob ministry so we got that set set up for Thursday night after the school of the Mystics so it's going to be good Kris garner says you know I'm all about MMA yea dude he's he's bad man check him out Brock Weaver he's a Choctaw Indian tatted up long hair braids he's really cool dude and he's a warrior man so it's cool we got a guy locally literally right on the road he's gonna do the podcast today and we have somebody that we can be rooting for in it and he's pretty bad man check him out Brock Weaver he'll be on here in a little while just go through these comments right quick they says thank you I appreciate your work and the help was invaluable for sure Christy says i'm mobbin I know you're such a fan of hog mobs so I wanted to make sure I let you know that okay so yeah man thank you guys man I know I'm just trying to catch up with all these comedies there's no way I've been watching most of them though so y'all y'all yeah thank you guys with that i'ma say peace of Shalom we will do it again go pick up the book peace peace that does it for this episode folks to hear more 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