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into today's episode today my friend
joins me and this is someone who uh
after I interviewed him the first time
the next week he's like we need to do
another have me back on let's do another
talk it was so good what's up uh my
friend Devon what is going on what's you
doing I'm happy to be back we had such a
first good talk man and kind of hit it
off after our you know Cross
polonization of of each other shows I
mean you had me on your show and uh I
was on yours and they were both good
talks but um when you were on my and I
just want to preface this everybody who
has not heard our first episode uh that
we did together you got to go back and
hear it for sure cuz we're not going to
get we're not going to go into all of
that but you got to go back and listen
because that was an an eyeopener episode
for me it was one of the most um you
know what I'm saying memorable episodes
one of the most controversial episodes I
mean so much
stuff uh happened on our first talk and
it was a talk that I needed to have and
it was interesting because me and you
talked just uh last week I believe it
was week before and you were saying you
went back and watched it and you just
seen how like inquisitive that I was in
the conversation and just really wanted
to know and those are the the best
episodes anyway what would you I mean
what what do you bring out of that last
episode cuz I mean I do want to recap a
little bit about where I am now we
talked about that but for you that our
first talk
man incredible I think the feedback was
really amazing for one um I did not
expect a lot of people to really
resonate with the dialogue that you and
I were having especially as it pertained
to the Bible as it pertain to sexuality
and spirituality and the metaphysics
behind a lot of that stuff and it just
really amazed me that uh a lot of people
were really receptive and then just in
terms of you you know in my community we
call the het
glit folk and so to just see a very
organic um as you said curiosity and a
willingness to kind of sit your
privilege down and to actually just
approach this from a place of learning
was something that was really refreshing
because often times especially when
there's a lot of spiritual and religious
intersections PE heterosexual people can
sometimes approach those conversations
with a almost
um with an arrogance and with a lot of
uh preconceived notions and so to just
sit before somebody who had genuine
questions who really wanted to
understand organically I mean it was I
mean I could feel the energy from that
receptivity just through the stream yeah
and I think it was just amazing
representation because
I we could go further by really just uh
seeking understanding instead of um our
biases and our judgment
and Etc so I mean it was just a really I
got so many DMS on Facebook on Instagram
from your followers who was just like
dude I don't know what I don't know what
asteroid tale you came down on but you
turned me out with the things you were
saying and it was just very interesting
because we've been in church our whole
lives and it was just interesting how
just some very simple things within a
text kind of just you know have it's Mr
buyee tremendously and still I mean
that's the whole thing I mean we you
know we always hear the the you know the
saying that every time you read the
scriptures no matter where you are in
life you're going to get something
different out of them and that's for
good reason you live and you learn and
Concepts and culture and all of this
stuff that you're learning and so when
you venture out and you begin to study
other things and then you go back to
those same script you're like oh wow I
thought I knew I had no idea and that
should humble you that should humble you
because again if you approach it with an
arrogance or one who has it all figured
out or one who is well trained um you
you're going to miss out on a lot and so
I've even shared our conversation with
other people um and good friends of mine
again down here in the South or whatever
and they approach it with that arrogance
and they don't want to listen and they
already know what the case is and you
know with with with um sexuality and
stuff like that and being open and
they're not at all so I and so now I
sense I sense the spirit that I was in
before right you know thinking you knew
it all and you know want to this is a
box this is a box this is the box and
we've got it all figured out so for me
um it was a really good conversation uh
just quick things that I pulled out of
it one of the biggest things is that
there was a difference and I know you
spoke on it and Larry Reid was in the
comments but he said there was a
difference between um a spirit of
perversion in someone's sexual
orientation and you have a lot of people
who were delivered through prayer and
through fasting and things like that
from this uh sexual uh promiscuity or
sexual perversion weird sexual things
that they're into because of something
some trauma that happened there's a
difference that for people who come out
of the womb just already attracted to
the same sex and so we in the church
we've like to we push all those together
we push it all it's all the same thing
and so to find out that that was that it
was a difference and once I got clear on
that there was things in the scriptures
that even recently that that talk has
kind of helped me in my studies of just
going back to like same sex attraction
in the scriptures and stuff that's
really just been Revelation like really
deep and it's so weird because I never
thought that me or my platform or
whatever would be one to like be a voice
or one who stands up for the lgbtq
community but I have been recently and
there's been a lot of people who have
been riding with me for a long time
until we have these these hard talks and
then they're gone and they'll send me
messages I liked you until you brought
this up or until you let these people
sit at your table and I'm like okay now
we see your true colors I don't want you
by me anyway so you got a lot of in
inner work that you need to do and you
got to do the Revelation yourself I did
it I asked the hard questions and we
this is what this show was about really
and uh and I found breakthrough
personally acceptance love inclusion
which is Christ you know what I'm saying
so man Big Ups to you for being open
because even the conversation that we
had I couldn't have had with just
anybody you know what I'm saying and so
for you and me to come together to to
have that talk it set a lot of people
free but it pissed a lot of people off
at the same time but that's just hey let
the chips fall where they may kind of
thing I want to mention that well first
of all like to God be the glory for that
but
secondly uh I I I always tell people you
don't know that you stepped into real
christiandom until the witch hunts begin
when you finally get the witch hunts
when the people are falling away when
the people are challenging your attitude
they're challenging your worldview um
that's when you know that you really
have started walking kind of in that
martyrdom and that Social Justice Reform
that Christ was so consistent in walking
in throughout the scriptures whe
standing up for the poor or the leprosy
or those who are outcasted that this um
advocacy and this inclusion was really
uh something that even 2,000 years ago
was upsetting to the powers then to the
status quo then and so I always tell
Christians and Believers alike when you
start loving you're going to come under
persecution for sure yeah that radical
love radical um love radical generosity
and um man there's just levels to it so
it was really a good conversation again
I'm I'm just you know trying to just go
over a few things that I've picked up
off of that and and what it meant to me
but definitely if you guys have not
heard our first episode go back and
listen to it uh recently uh it was
probably a week or two ago but I had a
couple drinks and I put that that
podcast on and I turned it up and my
wife I don't think my wife had listened
to it all the way and she was just like
blown away and fell in love with you too
wow up wife it was really good really
good I was like man I'm ready for
another talk dude so here it is I
absolutely love it yeah that what I know
like we had spoke one time before and
you was telling me about
um one of your who was dealing with some
things with I think his kid and you had
recommended that conversation to him
like you should check out
y I need to answer my door I need answer
my door really quick all right you're
good you're good go ahead I got this so
all right so uh he's got he's got uh
someone at the door is going to go ahead
and answer that and I'm going to uh
again uh send you guys back to that that
first episode that we did which was
really good um and and and since then
man I and like I said I have not been
one to think that I would be a a hub or
freaking mouthpiece or whatever for the
lgbtq community but I know that I have a
lot of fans who a lot of people in the
audience again who are um you know
transgender even a lot of interesting um
people
um and I wanted I want to approach it
with with delicacy right instead of like
thinking that you have it all figured
out or whatever and I've had a lot of
guests on recently and I don't like you
know book them and know that or try to
look up their sexual preference when
they come on the show but literally like
I've had a lot of really cool um
spiritual people who were into the lgbtq
community who love Jesus with all of
their heart and are are more passionate
about uh the things of God than uh you
you know people who aren't samesex
attracted and so that that's a
revelation like you just you have to
judge the fruit you know what I'm saying
so it's been something that's been
really really hard though cuz again
people send you them nasty messages and
and stuff and and and and withdraw their
patreon support you know or whatever
Jesus wow that's that's nuts they're $1
patreon
support GE what you so funny about that
is I I've even like over the over the
course of uh the past few years and my
mysticism um I've really been asking God
to help me to deal with um my opponents
or to deal with my enemies or to deal
with contrast in a better way and now my
approach to think back to Jesus and he
talks about uh turn the other cheek and
do for those who mistreat you and pray
for those who use you spitefully Etc I
understand now that when
people hate or when people misalign from
that loving vibration that it's this
it's just them struggling to
self-actualize the Christ within
themselves and that when we experience
that push back to approach that push
back with compassion and love because
we're trying to make an appeal to the
Christ Consciousness that dwells within
all living things including those who
persecute us and Hunt us down now
obviously as a man myself with an ego
that is something that I have to
manufacture because it's not natural to
take such a um eego approach take a
l right so it takes a lot of mindfulness
and a lot of presence and a lot of
repetition and discipline but my heart
really goes out the people who are
misaligned from that vibration because
they're missing the entire pot of God
they're missing the entire pot of the V
of the vitality and the health and the
clarity and the peace that just comes
from uh existing within the totality of
that Cosmic Universal love that's
bleeding and protruding through this
universe into the lives of every living
thing and just separating yourself from
that is just a disservice to yourself
separating yourself that wholeness is
just I mean it's a it's a
self-sabotaging thing you know but I
also understand that a lot of people who
behave that way actually haven't had a
really Devine Divine profound experience
of love so they don't even know that
there is anything missing really they
don't they don't even know that they're
pinching themselves off yeah from that
love so yeah just just staying within
that compassion and and just realizing
that even when people love you or hate
you that they really having an
experience of their own perception and
their own Consciousness it's really not
even about you y you when people are out
opposition it's not even about you it's
just a projection of either people's
wholeness people either going to see the
love they see in them in you and praise
you and admire you for it or they're
going to experience parts of themselves
that's the whole and then punish you for
that by unsubscribing by sending those
nasty emails by calling you out of your
name Etc but but yeah just a place of
compassion for the haters haters we love
y'all
too love I don't have any haters all I
have is fans in
denial don't come around shout out to SW
um so yeah man so what with something
that's interesting something about what
you do in your community because you
obviously like your Vibe attracts your
tribe right your story is going to
attract people who with with similar
stories and maybe maybe you know as a
catalyst uh they're not like as
comfortable in their story or In Their
Skin yet and so you have all these
people who are coming out or for me it's
you know a lot of Christians coming out
of the the church and but they they you
know what I'm saying want to maintain
their relationship with Christ but
they're into esoteric things or aliens
or magic mushrooms or whatever it is
that sets them apart from just being a
status quo churchgoing Christian that
you got to pretend that you're not oh I
don't like esoteric stuff no I don't do
much rooms right but you really God has
revealed these things to you so I have a
lot of those in my community uh for you
you have a lot of people um who um have
same seex attraction as well right and
so they need a they I say need a voice
they're they're looking for someone
who's uh comfortable in their skin
somebody who's living in their authentic
self and so that's where you shine in it
you're Unapologetic you know you're uh
um you know everything that you bring to
the table so you have a lot of people in
that community and I say that to say
that if it almost seems like some kind
of a subculture of um I don't even know
what how to word your subculture it's
like I've noticed just a lot of samex
attracted people um and it seems like a
lot of them are even in the church realm
like a lot of people are in church
culture and there's just like
underground movement um is is the
majority of people who who deal with
your content and Larry Reid and a lot of
those kind of people kind of cross pooll
pollinating are they uh are they all
Christian or or come out out of the
church kind of thing cuz it seems like
this huge underground
LGBT uh Church movement that is kind of
like comedic at the same time like
because you're like like you know what
I'm saying easygoing funloving want to
laugh a lot it am I seeing this right
because I'm not in it but I'm just
looking at it from a distance or
whatever is there a movement or
something there what is
that well I think because of the
existence of people like Larry Reid and
other Church bloggers that uh people who
have become AR strange from the from
Orthodox religion have been able to kind
of find a club or a
fraternity um to kind of galvanize in
and so what we now see is that a lot of
people who left the church didn't
necessarily leave God
yeah of religion they left the hypocrisy
of
religion and the culture can can you
still see me yeah okay because I was
getting I just got something feedback on
my the church but they still want to
worship
they sense of interconnectedness and so
people like Larry Reid have been able to
kind of um gonner that audience who
don't see God in the commercial rigid
narrow ways that Orthodox religion does
they're having more mistifying
oh you you're breaking up a little
bit Devon can you hear me conscious TV
are you
there these children with this
internet technical difficulties are real
I can't hear you if you can hear me you
might want to leave and join the room
again the zoom room
um gav on if you can hear me
sir uh oh I have to edit
this on the podcast
episode all right so hopefully we'll
wait for him to come back on but uh yeah
deep talk and it's always when you when
you jump into these deep talks that uh
stuff be happening all right he's
back can you see me yeah yeah okay see
what happens when you start talking
against the kingdom of hell it start
conspiring against you kicking you off
off your Wi-Fi kicking you off your
stream no we've yeah seen that many
times I noticed at first when talking
about like conspiracy stuff years ago on
the phone you'd hear a click and either
something would s start sound like it
was recording you or yeah it would your
phone would hang up or something like
that but um yeah so you have all these
people who are having mystical
experiences in the church and leaving
the church because it doesn't really
cater or Foster to this Awakening that's
that they're having really yeah it
doesn't fit uh the blueprint that
religion has laid it out and one of the
very uh one of the handicapping things
that Orthodox religion does is they're
so literal like they're so literal to
the letter it's so like tightly stripted
like everything about the way you
experience the Divine has to fit within
a language it has to fit within can you
see me again yeah yeah you're good okay
all right yeah it has to fit within this
box
and religion is not humbled enough to
accept that even what it knows about God
is 1% of the knowledge of God on the
100% pie chart of the Divine and so you
have people who are experiencing that
two and three and four and 10 and 20 and
40% more of God and the church doesn't
know what to do with those people um
because it doesn't fit the bubble of of
God and of heaven and of spirit and so
people like you even like you've been
able to be just as much of a Safe Haven
and an alternative to the church just
like Larry re brand has been able to be
because because of you guys people who
don't necessarily participate in church
are able to still come here and
experience
um those dialogues and conversations and
interactions and even about subject
matters that you're never going to hear
preached on Sunday service you're never
going to hear preached uh during Sunday
School in your church have you ever sat
in a sermon about UFOs have you ever sat
in sermons about astral projection have
you ever sattin sermons about the calini
and it connection to the Holy Spirit
have you ever like had sermons where
they connected astrology to a lot of the
symbolisms and the numerology within the
Bible absolutely not but when you go
back to Jesus's Time Mystery Schools
were huge in his day and age I mean one
of the mystical beliefs um within the
spiritual Community about why Jesus was
missing for so long out of the
scriptures from the time he was a child
to the time he became an adult was
because we believed he was in those
mystery schools in those undergrad
metaphysical universities gearing up for
what he would do over the next three
years of his life and so that's totally
missing from the pot and so people like
you get to be a mystery school for those
for this Fringe group of individuals who
once again they've divorced the church
but they never left God and now they
have a home in a Larry Reed they have a
home in a conscious TV they have a home
in a truth seeker and um and it's a
really really really beautiful thing and
I'm hoping that religion will open its
eyes and humble itself and realize
that you know I know that religion is
afraid to break the pattern because
they're so invested in what has been
perpetuated for centuries and centuries
and centuries on in but you're going to
have a people who perish from a lack of
knowledge because of your investment in
the system and not being repentant and
going back and Rec correcting that and
adding more to the dish than what's
being served because it's not serving
it's not
serving does that make sense yeah um
yeah for sure I mean and you know you
have this spiritual experience I mean
most of us I you know who are are most
of us who are in it to win it like you
start this thing from a mystical
experience it doesn't you know maybe
even your surrender to Christ was a
mystical experience I mean that's what
mine was right you just you come into
this place where you cross the threshold
between two realities and you see things
and the Paranormal or whatever something
is like gets your attention that opens
the door for a mystical experience maybe
you even facilitate that experience
yourself maybe it was a negative
experience there's a lot of those people
and so you want to to step into that or
recreate it or go a little bit deeper
and so we get into church thinking that
we can you know facilitate this or or
recreate it or just explore it a little
bit but then we're taught religion then
you know we're we're taught all of this
stuff that really is
counterproductive to uh walking in the
spirit because you're taught rules and
regulations touch not taste not don't do
this don't do that if you do we're we're
you're not we can't play with you
anymore is really the best way to put it
like little kids my mama said I can't
play with you no more you know I like
you but we just can't be friends because
what my mom said it's like dang that's
religion you know and I've experienced
that through religion and I experienced
that as a little kid you know not being
able to play with friends that we had a
lot in common with but um because their
parents didn't like me or whatever we
couldn't be friends anymore and so
that's what we see going on with
religion and but there's a spiritual
awakening at hand as well so you know
it's a catch 22 that's why channels like
mine and yours and other people's are
kind of blowing up man you know what I'm
saying and so there's like more people
watching uh our live streams than going
to many of these churches and so they're
they're having to change absolutely
their approach the interesting thing now
all of the stuff that you mentioned a
while ago about you know you never heard
of Pastor talk about Kundalini or UFOs
or spiritual awaking or astral
projection they're kind of changing with
the times a little bit they're starting
to talk about it but it's all
demonic all all of those things they
believe is Dem UFOs are demonic
Kundalini is demonic leaving your bodies
demonic but the scripture says to be
absent from your body is to be present
with the Lord that's not demonic I'm in
his presence I'm in him I live and move
and have my being there's no way that I
can go to get outside of him so I can't
travel out a lot of stuff and we just
have those hard interesting
thought-provoking conversations that
cause you to think and straight up in
religion the word religion religio Latin
means to bind up or hold fact they going
to think for you it's like a prison you
need to be told what you can and can't
do you need to be told when to go to the
bathroom and you got to ask for
permission you know and so that's like a
a per uh a religious system that binds
and holds you back some people need to
be bound and hold back because they've
just like exhausted their resources man
they've got addicted to drugs and you
know just this life is just too hard
trying to figure it out and so that that
that system works for them
there a lot of people that that system
works for most of us it worked for a
period of time you know what I'm saying
yeah yeah yeah I mean I I always call it
a a training will experience I believe
that religion might can get you started
but it's definitely not where you finish
I know even Apostle Paul comes through
and says that we should Elevate beyond
the elementary teachings of Christ and I
know Christ also talks a lot about
casting your net into the deep into the
depth of God um casting your net not to
the left of the boat but to the right of
the boat um and this is all about um
evolving
from literature and technicality to like
the organic and authenticity of
relationship to Spirit
um if you were adopted
wouldn't be the same experience as being
ra that wouldn't be am I Frozen it's
chopping up a little bit but you're good
now I
think okay CZ you you froz on my end too
I don't know
why I I can hear you now
you can hear me now
okay so you
sure
yeah okay all right so if you were like
adopted and you were just raised up
looking at videos and reading
biographies about your parents that
would be very different from actually
being raised up by your parents um
there's just truths and understandings
that you can't get from uh from an
external uh from our social distancing
and I look at religion like a social
distancing attempt at knowing god versus
spirituality which really brings you
into the heart and directly into the
mind and the beingness and that Oneness
of God which is a totally separate thing
and I know we kind of touched on this in
our last interview but I was uh talking
about the passage in which
Christ uh was going around the campfire
asking the disciples who it is that they
all say that he is and he he got to
Peter and Peter said you're the Son of
God and Christ proceeded to say that uh
only my Father in Heaven could have
revealed that to you and then on this
rock I shall build my church and my
kingdom and that's the rock of divine
revelation the rock of relationship that
that's what Christ's kingdom was was
this church of that was
experiential um that was also Technical
and metaphysical in terms of the science
of the spirit but that there's
definitely this huge um emphasis on
relationship to God and removing all of
the intermediary barriers between you
and God including the law which we live
by truth and Grace because we know that
the letter of the LA kth as Christ says
removing um the Catholic priest we no
longer have to have someone forgive us
on behalf of God that all things have
been done up and done over
concluded and and come to conclusion in
the life and the death and the
resurrection of Christ and so just
having access and being able to go
directly to the father you no longer
have to deal with a familiar unless you
want to you don't have to deal with the
spirit God unless you want to have to
deal with an angel unless you want to
but that all of the walls between you
and the father or you and the mother
whichever your pronounce are for the
Divine it doesn't really matter are
completely dissolved that you and God
are one and the same and I believe that
Christ was literally walking this Earth
to to get people to REM to remember that
you are the divine encapsulated within
this flesh puppet that this is just a
flesh puppet that your ego is just a
flesh puppet to know that there's
something deeper and more enriching
beyond the roles we play uh the Labs we
use the way that we're socialized by the
society in which we live in and Christ
is attempting to get people this shed
this outer layer so that they can see
and perceive the inner substance of
Consciousness and of
spirit and so that's something that
around the world are
continuing is to awaken by putting
deaths go deaths in my I went through a
divorce which definitely was a very
powerful Catalyst for another uh
destruction of my ego self I've also
took IA last year which was a really uh
life defined experience for me um and so
there's many to activate kind of a
temporary destruction of the ego self so
that uh oh he dropped
he dropped death of the ego is what he
was talking
about having that ego death and uh again
a lot of people experience that in
different ways
so I am so upset like I
am like this H whoever's in that in that
other room they using too much internet
they on Netflix and they browsing
Facebook at the same time and they pull
in the internet I'm telling you that it
ask my followers every time I start
going in spirit I could be if if I'm
talking about mess we have a clean show
there's no interruptions no glitches but
every time we start with the
metaphysical stuff is all this technical
crap that happens it's a hot mess but
um even pulling back because I know that
you mentioned like the LGBT experience
Etc and LG Unix have always been a part
of you know indigenous uh spiritual
systems and religious systems often
times they played the role of um
maintaining the herum um being uh
entrusted Messengers to the queen or to
the king um and I think that Christ gave
a a beautiful dissertation that really
encompasses the entirety of the
LGBT spectrum and the spiritual spectrum
because here it is he talked about
people who are simply born that way
people who are that way people who
choose to be that way and there's a a
double dualism to the meaning within all
of those things you get uh the priests
and the nuns who can choose to be Unix
for the sake of the Kingdom people who
just choose to live a life absent and
void of sexuality sexual expression
participating in uh the heterosexual
Paradigm Etc then you get the people who
are born that way uh which is very
different from the people who are made
that way because the people who are made
that way by men
can be the Jewish boys and babies who
underwent the Jewish castration ritual
um also Unix
so you could choose the occupation of
unic which
typically you had to undergo the surgery
of having your testicles removed um also
your family could sell you into this
occupation in exchange for resources for
monetary game like Michael
Jackson wait on what like Michael
Jackson have you heard that Michael
Jackson was a castr that they had his
his uh uh yeah testicles removed so that
he can he would never really hit puberty
he would able to be able to sing at that
higher octave and uh he would never
undergo that voice change they say that
uh they had they had him undergo that
procedure to to um maintain voice he he
became a castr are you I've never heard
of that are you
serious do you believe that it's
believable yeah I mean what people would
do for money you know what I'm saying
and we know what kind of guy that uh uh
their father was you know um seems but
what about Catherine like she was just
deeply devout uh Jehovah Witness you
think she would go for such an extreme
thing to her child I mean a lot of those
guys uh you you know looking at somebody
on the other in a similar situation
Prince like Prince you know he was very
much against homosexuality and stuff and
you a lot of people thought that he was
like really open sexually or or maybe
even samesex attractive with his clothes
and stuff but he was very much against
that kind of stuff so I think we have a
lot of ideas about these people and who
they were but deep down in that core uh
they they were different man so whether
I mean especially coming from like you
know
she she probably had to listen to Joe
though you know what I'm saying even
though she had those deep reserves about
herself she probably has some demons
that uh you know that they have
obviously because that's a messed up
family you know what I'm saying so but
yeah it's interesting interesting to say
the least you know it is it well uh
that's that that's very interesting
castr yeah C cash but you know what's
interesting even in mentioning like
things about um like even the way that
black have been socialized within this
country it's like if if a black man is
different way and he's not this like
King Kong chess beating uh masculine
male then the automatic assumption is
that he must be so often probably by or
gay but something that's very
interesting is that like that like the
European Community is not that like I
like I literally just went into uh a
cell phone repair shop and like this
heterosexual white guy like was
repairing my phone and we was having a
conversation talking to me about his
girlfriend and his kids and he had his
fingernails painted black and I'm just
like it was just so funny that
he European men get to get away with
being more fluid in terms of their
aesthetic in terms of even their
relationship to what they perceive as
masculine and that's not always the same
across the board like I look at the
European community and see a diverse
expression of masculinity whether that's
a punk rock masculinity whether it's the
gothic masculinity whether it's the uh
conservative uh masculinity but that
there's this versatility but within the
black community we don't have that
there's a lot of um toxic masculine
standards due to a lot of the
emasculation of racism and
patriarchy that has happened and so if
like for me I would never be able to get
away with this as a straight man yeah
people would just know that I'm gay I
mean they would just it'll just be like
he he has to unless you was in a
band unless I was in a band a rock band
right it has to be like a real specific
context for that you know but I would
just be able to just be let let me say
this though because you bring that up
about almost like a white and black
issue almost I see it as a American
issue because I bring the same thing to
the table with um the Indian people
people from India I've never seen a
Indian Thug of the toxic masculine uh
male I've never seen that the alpha male
the the warrior like I know they're were
but they're still like a little bit
maybe you could call it you know what
I'm saying eem I don't think it's um
eminate I just think they're not like
overly thuggish chest out you know and
even whether it's having to have big
muscles or working out or being the
gangster or whatever this kind of like
Persona that uh has evolved here you
know out of the ghettos out of the slums
maybe I'm not sure but I've never met an
Indian that was like trying hard to show
how hard he was and I'm sure there's
some Warriors that cut probably cut your
throat you know what I'm saying I'm
pretty sure you don't want to mess with
these guys but as far as like this
external I've never met one at working
at a gas station watching on live
streams I don't know people from India
I've never seen that and it's not just
India it's other places as well even
Native American you had your Warrior
your Hunters you know what I'm saying
but for in India maybe it's just they're
more of a peaceful people very religious
very devout you know in their conception
um I'm not sure but I've noticed even
with the white thing you have people
trying to play this role or whatever or
this Persona of a of what a a gangster
is or what a hardcore man is supposed to
be um interesting thing with that though
if you know this this is from Craig G
Lewis who taught me this but it's deep
uh the word Thug comes from India which
was the thuggies that hung out outside
of temples and they would rob you so
there are people who would you know
gangsters and into deep stuff but as far
as like their their appearance or trying
you know hard to overly do it I'm sure
you have them in the culture obviously
if the word thuggy and you had thugs in
Indian culture you don't see an you know
as many Indian thugs that you see like
in America or whatever does that make
sense yeah it makes sense and you know
like every every culture is going to
have like it's its perception of like
the rebels like like the way we perceive
our Rebels here in American culture the
rebels may show up and and express
themselves very differently over in
India or over in Asia or over in Africa
like but nonetheless there's always been
like the French group of rebels and
badasses and even the warrior classes
within indigenous communities you know
who you know took on a rough and tough
demeanor because they had to engage in
some rough and tough things to protect
their families and their communities and
their T and their turfs um America when
it comes to America because of the issue
of racism um you just have black men who
feel emasculated within a racist country
so they overcompensate for masculinity
and then you have white men who try to
parody that because maybe they were just
raised up around black black people um
so it's more of a superficial outfit
that those white men wear but black men
really believe in this hyper masculinity
because it's the way that that they've
been socialized by a very broken and
divisive um social system that they
exist within so it's the interesting
dynamic between you know with classes
almost classism yeah like the classism
produces
that you know what I'm saying um the
people who have had to struggle who have
had to fight for anything that they have
versus something handed to them on a
silver spoon or something right yeah
yeah not gonna have any any thugs just
you know Rich those rich kid we used to
call them people out you know you had
your little rich kid trying to hang with
the Thugs and hang with the drug dealers
and stuff but you're like you come from
want be cool they want to be cool and
edgy it's just like get out of here hang
out in the trailer park like what you
doing in the trailer part man you from
the suburbs man you know or the
hood your Li the Bieber situation but I
wanted to ask you though uh oh I think
my internet is unstable you're good now
you're good now you're still here okay
it's probably gonna happen though there
probably gonna be some type of a all
right we're here now though ask me what
is it all right we'll cross that bridge
when we get to it but I wanted to ask
you like speaking of like the poor and
mistreatment how have you perceived
what's going on within the country with
Co
the administration do you feel like do
you feel like what's going on is a bit
of karma for America like how have you
perceived the changes that we're going
through because there's a lot of
injustices that are within the soil that
hasn't been properly oh my God no yeah
but I think this is by Design though man
you know I I wish it was I wish it was
Karma I wish it was I don't think it is
you know I do think that you know
whatever uh we think Armageddon or
return of the whoever the Christ or the
Messiah or whatever is coming whatever's
coming is going to judge this place at
some point I do believe in that because
vengeance is mine sayith the Lord the
Bible says woe un the nation that is
that is established upon Bloodshed and
uh that's in habac I believe but um
that's our conception this land was uh
founded on genocide in the blood of the
Native American Indians and on the back
of the
uh you know Africans or or the Jewish
people God's people you know what I'm
saying so the Bible tell you straight up
woe and and the word woe means
destruction upon you if you establish a
a country or a town on Bloodshed so I
believe that um I believe in retribution
I believe that that we we still have
like people with you know Wicked people
ruling you know the Bible says when when
whenever the the wicked rule the people
mourn but when the the righteous rule
the people Rejoice we we don't have
righteous leaders and righteous rulers
and they've you know they've always had
this thing with the Republican Party
thinking that as long as they're in then
everything's good or you know they're
Christian or whatever and that's totally
not the case of what's happening right
now so I think I would I would hope that
this would be Karma you know us going
through God's Judgment of Co you know
but as far as me I guess being a
conspiracy theorist at heart like I I
think this is manufactured to to show
how much power that they have and
all this other stuff that they're
they're doing um with covid and
installing and stuff you know yeah okay
so you think it's manufactured yeah I do
now don't be afraid to get a bit more uh
conspiracy oriented you got to be
careful they'll pull my whole Channel
man we start talking about we gotta use
buzzword yeah YouTube got that bad
Google got that bad oh yeah yeah yeah
for sure wow okay so that my algorithm
then yeah they're doing purges right now
yeah a lot of a lot of channels that are
are are covid conspiracies and stuff
like that they're getting pulled so I
just try not to even I like talking
about it but not in a fear way in a fear
like hey just we're gonna get through it
kind of way you know what I'm saying so
wow that's well okay so how about
alternative Theory all right
cool what do you think about uh the
voting process itself you think that
that's a genuine social system man I
don't fool with that I don't my family
my family does though you know what I'm
saying my wife is she gets on my butt
I've I've watched too many videos bro
I've uh and I'm talking about from not
recent like this is you know I got
albums and stuff on anti-illuminati and
Masonic ties and these people are in
secret societies and they're they're
selected man these people these people
when they when they're little kids they
know that they're going to be the the
president bro like George Bush when he
was a kid he knew he was going to be
president they told him so secret
societies that run this world and stuff
like n the I think the vote is the
illusion of choice and you know that's
just where I am at it because I just
watch too much stuff you know and do
read too much too many books and yeah
that's just where I am I don't have no
you know that it's been proven that
every single American president aside
from one is actually related by blood
yeah yeah even the damn celebrities too
yeah the celebrities yep all
related crazy I tell you one of the
biggest conspiracy theories right now
that some of the people even in the chat
have been like begging me to get in on
there's a couple reasons
why I'm not getting on this conspiracy
theory but they tell you that all of the
big A-list female celebrities are all
men that they're all transgender males I
mean Sandra Bullock Ellen you name it
you go down to a celebrities and they
say most of them still have Adam's Apple
um Adams apples uh Taylor Swift like
they you know Michelle Obama like all of
them because and they go into on the
Christian side of this to say that it's
a mockery to God to like
abandon your uh gender or whatever case
is but that's a big one that a lot of a
lot of people have been reaching out to
me to cover I I don't want to cover it
for a lot of reasons first of all
I try not to uh to judge like that
unless I know I try not to speak on
anything that's the whole thing with
with the gay thing for me now like
unless I know a
th% that you're going to go and burn in
hell for eternity because you are
sexually attracted I'm not F to speak on
it I know Karma we mentioned karma karma
is f to get you like you got to reap
whatever you sow so for me to pronounce
a judgment or the judge I used to do it
I've learned from my mistakes so when it
comes to anything to Jesus said don't
judge nothing before it's appointed time
you know what I'm saying so for me to
cast a judgment and think think that I
know I've been proven wrong too many
times to to go and say yeah you are a
man quit pretending to be a woman only
way I'mma say it you got
to and I want to know
like God I'm I GNA I don't I'm trying to
I can't say what I want to say but uh
you know what I'm saying like I want to
know how you know there's only one way
you know right but it's like it can't
just be a alternative Theory like that
like it gotta work like it got to work
in both directions so it's just like if
if if you're going to claim that all of
those women are transgender women how do
you
explain uh them being young females
growing up like there's videos and
Michelle B when she was a little little
girl yeah yeah like there's photos and
videos and like things that they because
a lot of these high powerered women
didn't get their start in the industry
as adults they've been in this industry
since they've been kids they've been on
the Mickey Mouse clubs they've been
commercials and movies and you know
doing this work since little so you know
it what it really is is not
that it's a
transgender alternative Theory what it
is is like that group of people who like
push that narrative are just the people
who are so afraid of what they don't
understand they're living in this time
where they're seeing the Freaks and the
weirdos come out of the crevices of
society and they've never had to deal
with now they see it in everything and
they over exemplify it yeah yeah like
they they've never had to deal with you
know the issue of gender and sexuality
they never had to sit with these people
learn with these people accept these
people cook with these people and even
rais these people and so now I I I see
those type of alternative thoughts as
like a push back um to resist having
to embrace and even learn what this is
versus like being defensive against it
by saying oh no this is something evil
or something wrong and I see it happen
within the Black American community and
the white American Community like of
course the evangelico weird uh people of
thought create those theories but then
like we have a group in our community
called the hotp community and they also
come up with these really wild like
theories about LGBT people and
LGBT um existence and it's just like
y'all would rather do all that than to
just actually be like could this just be
what it is could this just simp look
this is just a manifestation of reality
because here's the thing that people
don't understand God moves in types and
shadows numers and symbols masculine and
feminine principle are metaphysics these
metaphysics create creation so masculine
and
feminine of course we socialize
masculinity and femininity we assign
gender and colors and activities to
women and G and gender and colors and
activity to men but the truth is there's
no such thing as masculine feminine the
way that we have socialized those things
and I think maybe the indigenous
communities were more were more closer
to a potent understanding of these
things because they understand they
understood masculine feminine not as
even having to do with gender or having
to do with um sexuality but having to do
with a state of consciousness that all
things may it uh all things had this
duality of mask and feminine
and because man is made in the image of
God
in creation
are being able to body both masculinity
and femin and femininity is just a part
of our natural function yeah there just
people who are born who are born more
closer to the spectrum of femininity are
masculinity but because we live in this
binary and this resistant binary you
have systems that say no if you're born
as a boy you need to be born closer to
the masculine binary versus the ENT
binary because of the
way by religion so if we would just
transcend these like very feeble
attempts to box in what is actually
spiritual realities and spiritual
principles systems manifesting as
Society because mankind isn't the only
thing that deals with the duality of
feminine and masculinity we see this
within the animal kingdom we have fish
within the
Pacific Ocean that can actually swap
genders when there's a lack of female
fish within the colony within the school
they can actually yeah transmute
themselves into male fish and then breed
with the female fish to populate the
school when there's a lack of female
fish within the within the school female
fish can transmute into male fish and
populate like these things are not
isolated to human we find the female and
and male principle and even the
transgenderism uh phenomenon within all
of creation as well this is beyond human
beings this transcends just society and
culture so it's it's a really
interesting thing to me yeah those uh
same people who you know find it hard
they you find them too because when it's
brought up the uh you know the gender of
God or God being a mother you know or
even we had just a little little quick
you know sharing articles little dis
conversation and Discord people were
having about you know the Bible talks
about the Queen of Heaven but it was
something that like Pagan or something
that was outside of of of of the Hebrew
culture but you cannot have a King
Without a Queen you cannot have a mom a
dad without a mom so you and so for us
to be you know we got to have this
conversation it doesn't exist you know
to to say that so so these people get
upset when you you say like you start
talking about the feminine aspects or
qualities of God even if it's like
nurtured through the Holy Spirit right
being more of a a feminite motherly
aspect of God which is the father or the
corrector or whatever in the mother's
the nurturer right um you find people
who get uncomfortable with that
conversation too but I would wonder too
if there is such the thing of like a
righteous goddess Queen of Heaven like
the motherly aspect because like I don't
think that it's like demonic or even
even Pagan to to think that because you
can't have one without the other you
know yeah you can have I mean you can't
have one like without the other I mean
even the reference the Queen of Heaven
is a astrological reference to the
Zodiac of Virgo and once again like when
you don't extrapolate like these texts
properly and you don't understand their
Origins and you don't understand like
because Christianity is the youngest of
all of the religious systems paganism is
actually the oldest Spirit well it's
it's one of the oldest spiritual
traditions and Christianity is just kind
of um a diluted reformed and refined
version of a lot of um Pagan mythology
yeah combination it is definitely is a
combination of a bunch for sure yeah I
mean it it's literally birth out of that
even when we were speaking earlier about
a ain't nothing wrong wrong with that
it's okay
right it's nothing wrong with that and
even speaking about occultism like it's
so funny that religion is so held bent
on the occult religion without the
foundation of of the ult the scriptures
and these religious experience were all
mystical and a cultic in nature you got
and then you got human beings who who to
try to create formulas to recreate those
experiences in the lives of other people
they ways life ways of living ways of
doing things to hopefully restimulate
this Divine yeah this Divinity and and
it's just like I don't understand how it
just goes over the head like religion
where do you think you get religion from
it's out of criticism it's out of
occultism I think that a lot of them
even in like the scriptures I think a
lot of them mean well Joseph Smith you
know even if he if he was telling the
truth like I think a lot of them mean
well the Apostle Paul meant well like
the disciples like cuz they had life
Chang I think we meant well you know I
think that your pastor meant well when
he started right but you get into
religion it's just what happens but I
think that they meant well early on to
like let's do this again because that's
when I when I listen the first time I
felt the Holy Spirit and had that Kini
that Holy Ghost Fire in me hey you got
to try this man because I was like that
with any type of experience jumping off
a bridge going swimming like anything
fun hey bro you got to try this so when
you touch the Divine it wouldn't be
anything different that's how we turn
into zealots you got to try this man you
know even a vegan dude I feel so I feel
so much better right now you got to try
this right and so I think that they all
meant well in their conception of having
an Angelic encounter an encounter with
their own Divinity of going within no
matter which religion and where it comes
from they tried their best to recreate
it in other people um and I think it
works for a lot of us you know but at
the same time eventually
those uh we see what happened to the
what happened to the Pharisees is what
happens to every that's a cycle that any
any religious person gets into once you
get stuck and it becomes a a ritual that
becomes formulaic but your spirit isn't
in it no more it's just their form of
godliness but denying the power thereof
as the scripture
says you still with
me
uhoh are Contin you move okay getting
stuck and move it's I'm getting a
notification that the internet is
unstable again so there's about to be a
glitch out not the only thing unstable
now right look but
um no you're right um I know
like so like a lot of my intersections
caused me to deal with a lot of
rejection from the church obviously my
sexuality being one but also like when
certain gifts started manifesting in my
life like astro Projection which
manifested in my Life by way of sleep
paralysis the church had no relationship
like they wanted nothing to do with what
the hell I was talking about like what
like I I even had one Pastor say have
you sought out a therapist I'm
like you're the therapist sir like this
is your lane like what do you mean like
like they had no grip no context for
this and um yeah it was just fascinating
to me
because you
know up on astral projection once I
started having involuntary astral
projection experiences a lot of the
researchers were saying how a lot of our
biases can really um kind of convolute
our spiritual experiences so like you
have a Christian who's more inclined to
see a a orb of light who's communicating
something to it at the end of his
bedside and call it an angel and so this
kind of projection and this kind of
assumption about what you are
experiencing can
actually it can blur a lot of the data
in terms of like what this really is you
know I I have found that the language is
so limiting I remember even reading and
I don't want to put one of your
followers on blast but I know you had a
a guy on here uh recently who was
talking with you about astro Projection
and his experiences he's in chat right
now oh he's in the chat yeah he's
listening like what's his name Cal
melcast
oh it was him and there was a woman in
your comment section who was like
everything in this title is demonic I
think you had like UFOs yeah you seen
that comment I see I was screaming at
that comment and I was thinking to
myself it's so bizarre that I mean but
that just goes to show how limiting the
language we spent we spent four hours
proving that it wasn't demonic like you
know proving that it wasn't demonic but
that's how deep the language is like
that's how personal the the language is
to the people like that they literally
reduce these realities to the labels we
Mortals put on these realities as if
even our language is even um an accurate
portrayal or in or some
precise
um labeling of something that ultimately
is really Beyond human understanding all
together we're talking about psychic and
intuitive experiences
that can't be Boxed In by language and
we shouldn't
be we shouldn't get blocked up and
clogged up because we're
calling Christ Christ Consciousness or
calling Christ uh the Holy Ghost calini
because at end of the day like
look if if you met me in a bar and you
didn't know me and we had a great
conversation and you forgot to get my
name and you went home to your wife and
said I had this really great
conversation with this guy with pink
hair um at the bar we was just really
going back and forth mad cool I don't
know his name whether you know my name
or not your experience is still an
honest
experience you don't need to know my
name it's not necessary that you have my
proper label because it's it's the
experience itself that is really the
meat and the potatoes of the encounter
like what is the encounter communicating
to you I know that we have scriptures
that you shall test and try the spirit
yeah um by the fruit that it's not about
what's being who's who's saying it or
what we perceive as a person but once
again it's just about what is the data
what is your encounter how did that
impact you what was communicated to you
and can that edify you can that edify
you but we get so hellbent on language
and vocabulary and it really blocks just
a more fluid experience of our
spirituality and it's sickening to me
I'm just trying to see how this fits
into the conversation you know just the
the example because the example is
someone else going to you and having a
conversation with you and not liking you
at all you offended them you were dirty
with them you may have cursed them out
you may have been checking out their
wife like they had a bad experience with
you at this same bar right so the same
person up I met him and he's he's a dog
I don't like him at all right but then
again on top of that what else we have
going on here is we have that situation
but then we have seven other people who
look just like you so I go home and tell
you know what I'm saying who were all
different people and I go home and tell
my wife hey I met this guy with pink
hair at the bar and it's like man there
there's seven guys with with pink hair
which one you know which one be be more
specific so that's what the the
religious mind is like trying to get it
pinpointed and take he's are Davon those
guys are not the real Davon you know
what I'm saying so it's kind of mud the
about that though is that the the
encounter with this pink
hair connect you to me as a deity so you
might have experienced a bunch of other
pinkhair guys but you only encountered
one of those and if you focus in your
meditation and your prayer about the way
that encounter with that pink Care
person made you feel that is what the
law of uses to put you back in proximity
to this particular pink hair guy even if
you still don't know his name because
it's more experienc IAL base it's more
experiential Bas I mean we have
religions who have killed each other in
conquered lands over these
literal conversation that we're having
yeah right for the same conversation
we're having people have lost their
lives and they're still doing it like
still doing it yeah socially even in
America it's more social now you know
kill you socially or or like yeah people
want to die or do kill themselves we get
excommunicated from families and all
kind of weird stuff but we got to be
able to have this conversation language
is powerful though and there's a reason
why I choose to use all of the language
language is beautiful um it opens up the
vocabulary to uh to explore uh what is
possible so that's why I use all of
those things because in this in the same
at the same time it's talking about the
same kind of same thing um but um you
know using using that I always tell
people on a one-on-one level you have to
break it down and use their their
language because those people who
automatically think UFOs are demons
Kundalini is a demonic serpent spirit
and you know astral projection is a
demon taking your spirit out your body
like if that's what they believe and
we're using those terms like I did in
the title it's already going to blow
they're they're not even going to listen
but uh so I would talk with those people
or be a little bit more Mindful and and
use different words I would have I could
have I could have rewarded that and used
like the same title and just changed it
for whoever needs to hear it I could
have said what it was about Christ
Consciousness UFOs and Angels or
whatever I could have said yeah we could
have made a Christian title that they
would have loved you know and it would
have spoke their language and we use
Spirit travel I mean I started that
whole conversation off with the the
spirit travel this astral projection
thing and I still have Christian Mystics
who are just even close to that idea
that astral travel and spirit travel are
something different you know and they
have teachings and Doctrine and they're
coming into the occultic and they're
taking stuff from the occult and they're
making their own you know separatism
from it you know and saying why it's not
the same as what Davon does we do it a
little different and it's not the same
thing you know he does it with demons we
do it with Jesus you know just like the
hell are you talking about you know like
the Pharisees did the same thing to
Christ they caught every they caught
everything he did everything but
righteous and miraculous it was his
power had to come from demons his power
has to come from hell what is he doing
it's like
they're the ram of the UN the ram of the
non-physical is the ram of God that's
the that's the natural habitat of God is
the non-physical
plane
so you're never I mean there even
scriptures that say that even say that
if I make my bed in hell Lord you even
are there because all hell is is like
the basement to God's Dimension it's
just like it's all a part of the one
kingdom of heaven and we get into like
this being hyper nuanced and it's just
so absurd and ridiculous like even I got
in like what you were saying about
languages so true because I have
Christians who they can't take the term
astral projection but they can take the
term translated or they can take the
terms caught up in the spirit because
that's a part of the language they come
from and I'm just still like it's going
to be important for you to
transcend language you know like yes we
use it because it's relative it's
relative to the Earth plane it's
relative to the way we communicate it's
relative to the culture perfectly fine
but do not
mistake language for the thing we're
talking about it's only a reference a
very cheap reference as well because
once you experience these things you're
going to know how how much of non
language we're talking about is purely
experiential I mean even when you have a
lot of the alien abduction cases you
have a lot of those people encounter
those beings through the form of
telepathy when you have people who even
astrop project or people who have
near-death experiences and they go into
the light they talk about this intuitive
dialogue with spirit it's not physical
at all it's just a knowingness and a
knowingness and a knowingness and a
knowingness and so we're talking about
language and Words which I mean language
is so language is so fragile that that's
why like every culture has its own
native language like it's not a real
thing it's just our way like we produce
sound and then we give that
sound proximity to learn to communicate
by way of the way we produce breath and
air and so you have African people
producing different sounds than the
Asians and the Americans it's all just
sound and it doesn't even matter because
even the power speaking in tongues
allows you to translate all human
languages because we're talking about
something that's deeply intuitive Y at
it heart and his core um speaking about
how you know Spirit has to experience
spirit and it goes beyond words and the
language I mean the Apostle Paul said it
best and I didn't really get what he was
talking about until I had a hero dose of
psilocybin mushrooms and went to this
place
Apostle Paul talks about leaving his
body going traveling to the third heaven
and not knowing if he took his body with
him but he says when he um came back
that it was he saw things that it was uh
he couldn't explain there was no way on
his best day if he finished if he
devoted the rest of his life to trying
to articulate what he saw he would have
books and he would not he would not be
able to articulate and explain it and so
unless you've been there it's an
experience you have to have been there
and when I when we came back from our uh
psilocybin journey I read that verse and
I'm like I'm like in tears reading it
bro I know what you mean like I'm trying
my best to explain it and I sound like a
fool you know trying to explain this
something that is only meant to be
experienced and that's what the spirit
is for you to experience and so this uh
even Paul talks about even before that
says that some people come with the
wisdom of words and they're really good
with words but he say I come with with
the power in demonstration I'm going to
show you and teach you repeatability how
you can go in and meet with Christ how
you can facilitate an Angelic encounter
and keep this stuff going so they had
dreams and visions and Angels were
coming and going and this was their this
was their culture it was a supernatural
culture it wasn't a religious culture
what we have today we're sadly mistaken
yeah no absolutely I mean it was Apostle
Paul himself who coin the term out of
body he said I knew a man 13 14 years
ago when in the body or out of the body
I do not know and then as you said he
said I went to the third heavens and I
heard and saw things that were unlawful
to speak that as you said there was not
even a context I mean as a Avid Astro
projector myself I've been projecting
since I've been 16 years old I'll be 35
on the 15th of next month I
have my only receipt that I had these
experiences is Visual and and emot
because I can't even begin to like there
were literally colors that I saw that I
can't even describe to you what those
colors look like because there's not
even a reference yeah for those colors
or those sounds like we're talking about
very deep in hyper States Of
Consciousness that are just beyond the
five senses and our and we should humble
ourselves as human beings and realize
that we are infants when it come to
producing systems that speak organically
to these metaphysical systems and we
shouldn't be so arrogant to think that
we're any different because Christ
couldn't do it 2,00 years ago even he
had to use Parables even he had to use
poetry as a way to illustrate convince
the people too
yeah yeah he had to he had to use poetry
and symbolism to communicate uh
metaphysical things he even couldn't do
it I mean there's a old uh statement
within the within the not statement but
there's a attitude within the occult
circles that um a artist is only as
useful as as as his tool as his pin you
know and so if human beings if we're
only operating at less than 8% of our
brain capacity or we are um not as
intelligent we don't have a a vast
system of knowledge to work with Spirit
has to work with what it can work with
because the scriptures also say that God
gives gives un gives a measure of
accordingly yeah that he gives us a
measure according to our capacity so I'm
just not that arrogant as a human being
to just you know get to idolize language
um and as somebody who's been and I am
thankful that I got to be someone who
got to experience because there are so
many people who who have to have faith
in the things that I know as an
experiencer and I'm happy that I was
blessed to be in the experience box
versus having to have faith in these
things which to me is a totally
different
reality but as somebody who has
experience I know that what you're
talking about is only what meets the eye
even your language is not an adequate
description of even your own experience
no matter how much we woo the language
around and we are creative in our
verbiage to describe things and as
beautiful and poetic and enchanting as
words can be
they're still fall very short of the
glory yeah very very of Glory yeah yeah
yeah but I mean that's part of the art
that's part of the articulation and
seeing what humans can produce
especially when it comes out of beauty
right versus coming out of War because
we have the I feel like we have both
Natures inside of us we can do both we
can do some really amazing stuff I mean
just look at which comes from
spirituality which comes from the
Paranormal and the Occult and symbols
and signs and sigils and philos opies
and things like this that we can even in
our music it's coming through and
Tattoos we we want to write make things
up you know and articulate in any way
that we can but we have the ability
within us to do some really vile things
as well so that's the cool thing that we
get to tap into the creative side of our
Humanity which is connected to our
Divinity at the same time and find ways
to articulate it through a podcast
conversation or through a song or
through a painting or through whatever
it is that you're bringing to the table
and um that that's the that's the
beautiful thing about all all of this
stuff of going in or leaving your body
or doing your iasa and things like that
just having these life-changing
experiences is that you can try to bring
that's what a shaman does you're able to
bring something back from that realm and
say hey this is my receipt like you said
it's a song all I have is a song you
know what I'm saying all I have is a
painting all all all I have is a a a
tremendous Freedom that I didn't have
before for um I'm I'm okay in my skin
now the only receipt that I have is I'm
okay being me now after that when I used
to hate myself you know whe whether
that's any type of religious experience
right something that is liberating and
that's what it's about there at least
that's what it's about for me and I
think the majority of the people
listening you know absolutely I was
listening to one of your um to one of
your episodes with a guy you was talking
about UFOs and y'all was talking about
language and how the Bible uses the term
Char of fires but I mean that's once
again a feeble attempt to describe a UFO
to describe something that doesn't have
a framework for the times in which it's
manifesting in and so you have these
prothetic people seeing things seeing
Advanced things seeing into the future
and having to use the limited symbolism
and language of their day to describe
things that will never happen within
their lifetime and so the Bible itself
and the term charot of fire is a prime
example
uh uh great Visionaries and seers
struggling to use what was available to
them to describe what they were
experiencing and so yeah just just being
mindful of that like don't let language
scare you off we have the opposite now
though because we're trying to interpret
this ancient understanding and this
ancient script through western
civilization and
technology yeah you know what I'm saying
it's like and so even when we when we
read it as something you know what I'm
saying relevator we think it's like
technology or something futuristic when
they're explaining something really old
that's lost to us it's lost to us we
don't understand astrology as far as I'm
concerned like the image that you have
behind you looks like the Zodiac it
looks like a wheel within a wheel you
know what I'm saying and so the sun
traveling the Sun going through the the
Zodiac going through the stars with the
eyes and like we we're lost to a lot of
the ancient technology spiritual
technology if you will and we try to
modernize this these ancient text and I
feel like there's a for me there's
always this voice that kind of keeps
pulling me Back To Nature and back to
the ancient path which is through uh the
indigenous ways you know what I'm saying
through plant C ceremonies and through
uh meditation ceremonies or whatever
whatever it is that that helps you
connected to feel more alive and and
feel more in your body and just uh to be
a to be a traveler too you know to be
able to do both not just one or the
other because I'm even reading some of
these comments here some people
listening in the live stream they're
talking about can I uh can I go ahead
nature is taking this course can I take
a quick tinkle break no sure all right
yeah go ahead this what we'll do we'll
go to a quick commercial you have time
to do it and I have time to get some
water ladies and gentlemen we'll be
right back
wow so the throne room meditation man uh
this was just like a new level for me of
creating encounter uh really the process
behind it is going in for myself having
an encounter with the Lord tapping into
the spirit and getting in his presence
and really just petitioning the Father's
Heart and saying God what would you say
to them if I'm bringing these people
with me here if they're doing this
guided meditation and we're going
through this journey we're having fun
we're seeing things we're experiencing
new feelings and emotions and Sensations
what would you say to him so it's
channeling The Father's Heart and
relating it back to the people so man
it's just a beautiful encounter and um I
remember when I wrote the first one um I
was so excited about it and it was just
God speaking to my heart I was able to
Channel The Father's Heart and um I
would read the script to people cuz I
was just so excited while I was working
on it and every time that I would just
read the script the presence of God
would just invade me and I just burst
into tears and I couldn't even read it
I'm just like let me copy and paste it
and send it to you but every time I
listen to it I'm immediately translate
back into the throne room of God and uh
everything's good there that's the place
where everything is okay where in the
Scriptures it says that we are to hide
under the shadow of the almighty this is
the throne room of God this is the place
that we can encounter for ourselves but
this is also a place in which we dwell
so a part of us is always there and we
have access to that now there people who
have never encountered this before in
their life and it's a totally new
experience for them and almost every
time I get a testimony back from someone
they just say how God wrecked their
lives that they didn't know what they
were getting into next thing they know
they're in the presence of God wrapped
up in his glory he's communicating his
love to them and just totally wrecks
their lives so make sure you check out
the throne room guided meditation
visualization that I brought to the
table and make sure you guys go check
out that meditation if you haven't uh
heard it yet I'm very proud of that
piece of work it's a beautiful encounter
and of itself so we're back with Deon um
talking about these experiences man like
what what is the the the difference
between like having this outof body
experience and um like doing your iasa
ceremony cuz you know a lot of us would
tout like being able to get to such
Realms because we're good at Kundalini
yoga and meditation so we can enter
these higher States Of Consciousness and
say you know we don't need that other
stuff because it's a even some people
say it's a hack like you're you're
cheating you know what I'm saying to get
in I feel like it's different Realms
what what would you say of the
difference between being able to
facilitate or being pulled quite
literally because you've had both uh how
that lines up with plant medicine
Journeys what's the similarities and
what's the
differences oh man well night and day I
mean uh you know that's a difficult
question for me to answer because both
both ways of experiencing your
Consciousness can have major
similarities a astrop
projection as lifechanging and lead to
such deep introspection and Revelation
about the nature of reality and your
soul Etc the same way that an iasa
Journey can
so I think the I think the differences
just come down to the approach I know
that um there are scriptures that say
knock on the door and
it shall be open but I think also what's
missing is
um there are different ways to knock on
that door that allow entrance and so
when people say cheating I'm just like
iasa and astral projection is no more
cheating than praying for an experience
or meditating for an experience or going
to church seeking an experience like
these are just once again different ways
of knocking on on the doors of Spirit in
order to have these experiences now for
me yeah astro Projection and remote
viewing and psychic awareness and obes
have literally just kind of been that
for me an experience of coming out of my
body but I also kind of take a different
approach I
don't is kind of misleading because it's
really an inner body experience it's an
inner Consciousness experience you know
right like our physical reality is a
projection of um a Cinematic Universe
within us um but aasa for
me aasa was a baptism for me of like
everything that is toxic and wicked and
Antichrist and selfish and greedy and
you there stick with us guys he's going
deep he'll be
back he'll be
back they watching Netflix in the other
room at his house
there we go okay baptism
of h b stuff being shooking yes it was
like a um it was a baptism of my false
self and that's something that I've
never experienced in an astrop
projection experience and I've had some
really incredible experiences I've met
my grandmother on the other side through
a uh astrop projection EXP experience
I've encountered um a whole colony of of
angels on the other side when it comes
to utilizing astro Projection and remote
viewing but aasa was just a complete
temporary destruction of the false self
and um the bleedout and the Fallout from
that experience made me deeply loving
and deep like it it kind of
radicalized um certain parts of myself
like my compassion like my love and
that's something for me that an astral
projection experience has never done
what astral projection and out of body
experiences did do for me is just
destroy my material worldview like I
like instead of because we were all
raised to believe that we're not our
bodies we were raised to believe that we
have souls we were raised to believe
that we have um a spirit and most people
just believe this they don't have the
luxury of having had that experience of
knowingness so when I had my first few
out of body experience it was a matter
of oh my God I am literally something
other than human I'm also being too I'm
a I'm a being I'm being
human I'm being I'm a being that's being
human like that was a totally shock of
my worldview and and just a culture
shock but my iasa it it it changed my
life because it just exposed me to the
raw organic love of God and being able
to experience love without an ego is
just something of another it's just
beyond anything that I could ever
imagine and it changed the way that I
even came back and experienced my
romantic relationships my friendships
because I hungered and thirsted off of
being able to exist within every
relationship in my life and so such a
vulnerable way like the the the or it's
so orgasmic to be vulnerable to be able
to be present and show up fully without
fear
because love creates perfect trust and
we can't get that when there's fear
abound and there's egotism abound and so
it just created a hunger for a enriching
deepening experience with other human
beings a deeper fellowship with Mother
Earth with the divine feminine um I was
more comfortable as a man with my divine
feminine after my iasa experience um I
mean it was just lifechanging
emotionally and psychologically and I
don't think per se that astrop
projection does that but astral
projection is powerful and life-changing
in a different type of a way but not
necessar I think aasa is more
interpersonal and and I think it's more
transformational um I think obes and
astral projection is more
it's just more about like the abilities
of your soul and um kind of like the
Multiverse and the exploration of other
states of Consciousness which once again
can lead to Transcendence and can lead
to um very deepening experiences
but I if if anybody is struggling with
heartbreak insecurity if you're
struggling within mental health
ego huh the ego right
yeah I you have like it's literally
you're not sick you're not cursed you're
just deeply egotistical and you just
need this experience of yourself without
the ego present and you will work the
rest of your life not allowing that ego
to regenerate itself after you've
experienced the Divine self and um yeah
I mean it's just it's just life changing
yeah I think um you know I'm just kind
of getting a revelation we talked about
it I you know to be absent from the body
is to be present with the Lord I think
to be outside of that ego and so there's
these different things that allow you to
uh almost disembody yourself from the
ego the ego exists for a reason like
it's part of the human experience it's
trying to save you hey don't do that
last time you did that you got in
trouble no I really want to tell people
how I feel remember they made fun of you
last time don't do it okay I'm not going
to do it no shut up like the ego's here
like as a guardian angel almost right in
the in this this
fleshly experience because I don't think
it exists you know outside of it to be
absent from the body absent from the ego
is to be present with God to be able to
be in this Oneness of awe and Bliss and
I am loved without measure and these
different things that you get into
through plant medicines right that that
help you facilitate that experience or
deep breath work or deep levels of
prayer and meditation and chanting and
all of these things that were're able to
experience through the spiritual
practice and we need to be reminded of
that because we get so engulfed in what
we're doing and what we have going on in
our businesses and our friends and our
haters and all that we get stuck in the
ego here we have to remember that we're
Spirit even though we teach on this
stuff like we got to be reminded you
know what I'm saying because you find
yourself teaching on it and not really
doing it and you know you you'll get
burnt out or whatever so um experiencing
that
away from the ego and being able to
identify the voice of the accuser the
Satan if you will is kind of what the
ego is is in the scriptures and get
behind me Satan get behind me ego
because you have in mind not the things
of God but the things of man because I
know for me to step out into my destiny
to do the things that God has put within
me it's going to take me stepping out in
faith and the ego is Peter pulling Jesus
you don't have to do it don't do it
don't do it and he he don't rebuke Peter
he rebuked
the ego the
adversary listen this is what we have to
do to fulfill all righteousness no no no
don't do it and it's the same thing you
deal with when you're stepping out in a
creative Endeavor in a life choice a
life decision to be authentic you're
going to have to deal with the ego that
tells you hey shut up listen your
family's going to make fun of you I'm
I'm training healers right now this is
the course that I've launched and we're
dealing with that hey man people are
going to make fun of you you're going to
go live on Facebook and heal people and
do tarot readings and your old teacher
from second grade is on your friends
list and your grandmother is going to
see you do this oh really you're
stepping out as a Healer so we got to we
got to deal with that straight up
anytime you start a new Endeavor to be
your authentic self you have that
adversary uh that steps up which is the
ego yeah yeah I mean Christ said it best
that man shall not live off bread alone
and that bread was the ego he was
talking about the false self that
if you get if you identify too strongly
if you uh start to misunderstand the
role of your ego and you start to
believe that you are the ego and that's
all that you are then you end up
spiritually clogged and you will s you
will spiritually Decay as a result of um
like this deepen allegiance to the ego
self and so Christ exemplified all
different ways to break
um to temporarily loosen the ego which a
Act of humility and servitude is a total
um disassociation from the ego because
the ego is not selfless the ego is not
giving the ego thinks in a reward-based
way like I will do long as I get
something out of it it's it's it's
transaction and so um he also fasted you
know he was a known faster he would
remove himself from society
and deepen his uh his Consciousness and
his alignment to God and then he will
reintegrate himself and then share that
Alliance self with all the people in his
community and so fasting prayer living a
life of servitude this is why these
practices are um a part of a lot of like
even religious institutions of like a
priesthood and nuns and um even monks
it's all about the servitude because the
servitude is a way to sensitize you to
the egoic itself which does get in the
way of the way that you show up in your
love and the capacity and and and
the the Velocity in which you love is
literally shielded and diluted every
time that the ego is present but I also
like what you said too because a lot of
people have a misunderstanding about
what the ego is it serves two roles
there's a kind of a instinctual element
of the ego self that as you said it
keeps us safe ego is the thing telling
you you're too close to the uh Cliff
back up the EGO is that thing you feel
when you think you have missed your step
and you feel your stomach plummet that's
the ego it's a protective mechanism and
it grounds you to the Earth plane if you
have any type of a habit or ritual in
your life whether it's brushing your
teeth or washing your behind that is
because of the abil that's the function
of the ego to produce habit and that
repetition the issue
is when we get into a low vibrating
State and then our ego is looping low
vibrating Behavior over and over and
over and over again and we don't know
who we are
spiritually that is what can make us
chronically depressed and give us
chronic anxiety because we don't know
how to escape the loop and we think we
are the loop we think we are the thing
that our ego is playing back to us but
it's only playing back to us what we've
inserted into the system or into the
will but you can change that will which
is why there's a science to changing
habits it takes 30 days to acquire a new
habit um I think it takes like 90 days
to create um to turn a habit into kind
of a second nature um so you know like
the ego is a science-based part of self
it's not spiritual it's completely
relative to the Earth plane it's
literally just here
to ground you in whatever it is you
choose to be grounded in and to keep you
safe but the issue with our society
especially especially Western Society is
we don't as much as we call ourselves a
Christian Nation we're not even really a
religious or a spiritual people we are
really a egoic people yeah and so um we
have a lot of people walking around in
their egos and they use
religion they talk religion they talk
spiritual things but they are deeply
egoic and
so just know that the ego it can ground
you in unhealthy practices but you can
change unhealthy practices by
introducing new information new
affirmations um and new thoughts into
the stream and that creates a momentum
that the ego latches on to and
perpetuates it again and again and again
and again so the ego is secular um it
can be healthy it could be I like the
term when you get saved you have the
ability and wherewithal to spiritually
appropriate your ego self because you
can utilize the the ego in a healthy way
you just have to know that you're not
just the ego you have to know that the
ego is is a function it's not you the
mistake is you identifying it as you
that's where all the issues and the
Calamity comes into play at is you think
the ego selfish you if you know that
it's not you and it's just an ability
it's just a function of your human
nature it's just a part of your nature
but it's not you then you're able to
kind of do what thou will with the ego
instead of the ego doing what thou will
with you y um Cal says here in the chat
he says wow that's powerful and seeing
that you mentioned fasting he said
fasting silences the ego very good point
I would say that it doesn't silence the
ego but it it allows you to notice the
voice of that ego because like even on
something like fasting even starting out
like you know that even the moment that
you declare to yourself that I'm fasting
for 3 days or and then a day into it or
a lot of times even instantly you are
you're automatically hungry like your
mind is like hey I'm hungry and then
even the next day like every bag of
chips just a a bag of chips looks like a
full course meal then like a day into it
you know hey you can do it you can eat
these chips you can do what the hell
what is that that's your Earthly nature
the egoic mind trying to pull you out of
something that's for your greater good
no so you can notice that there is this
adversary trying to work against the
will of of what you've put your mind to
do and so it's definitely dents keeps
you tethered but it's good it serves its
purpose I mean we are we are fully human
and fully Divine at the same time so to
think that like anything sensual or
anything a bag of chips is demonic or
something right you know everything
serves its purpose and so to be fully
God and fully man at the same time like
that this is The Human Experience and
and give yourself to the experience you
know um because you won't have I don't
think you'll have it again I think that
we have this weird notion that that I
believe that like we're here trying to
get back to heaven right which and even
the spiritual process leaving our bodies
and aasa and and getting rid of the ego
to be in the presence of God we want you
more even in worship and stuff we want
you God we need to be back home I'm not
from here you know that kind of stuff
cuz it's scary right we want to get back
home but I feel like even when our time
is done we'll be like damn I mean even
at the end of somebody's life they're
like man I wish I was more present in my
kids's life I wish I wouldn't have
worked so much I wish I would have been
here doing that like at on your deathbed
just think that when you pass and you're
like damn I wish I could have been truth
Seeker for three more years I wish I
could have held my wife one more time
cuz it's going to it's going to be up so
to be present here and experience this
and I think the spirituality is how we
balance it and we know our Roots we know
who we are deep within our core and we
are not this meat suit we are something
we are not this crude matter luminous
beings are we and to be and to remember
that that all things are possible and
then the Bible starts to unfold and then
these truths begin to ring down to our
core and we're not just ruled by our
thoughts and our desires and our
shortcoming in our situations and
circumstances yeah no absolutely I
totally no I totally agree with that and
um as you were talking like it's so
funny because when I was like a egoic
Christian like I used to I could not
stand Paul like Apostle Paul like I just
like oh Paul is so narcissistic and
misogynistic and patriarchal and D but
it's interesting now on the other side
of mysticism because apostle Paul is
actually the eart tole of the New
Testament once you really get into like
the science and the understanding of the
ego and the Cardinal and the sin self um
you understand that those were realities
and um things that Paul was talking
about Apostle Paul said it best he
says I have a will to do good but I am
aware of another government within my
members within my house that contrast in
war against that egoic self and um Paul
was talking about the super ego um in
contrast to the Divine self the loving
self the nuclear self and um I know like
the scriptures say iron sharpens iron
and so our egos also they keep us humble
like my ego reminds me to be humble
because I'm I'm not some super saved
person I'm a person that have to make
conscious choices to do good not to
react in the comment section like you
said a while ago huh not to react in the
comment section like you said a while
ago and they just are there things going
on within the comment section no no no
I'm just saying like not to you know to
see where they're coming from and
knowing like some people are trolling
but that's a big one the comment
sections cuz I want to I want to do it
too sometimes and I have done it and you
said cuz I mention that because you said
you've kind of grown from that of like
just cussing anybody out who disagrees
with you or just giving
of you you like to be pushed and and
I'll say this um with that and with that
being humble or or being open or being
soft because again that with the um you
know the thing that people perceive you
know gays just to be fun loving and and
not Gangsta right um when I A A lot of
people thought that I was in in high
school that I was gay uh I was really
big into Marilyn mans and and uh you
know shaved my eyebrows was painted my
fingernails wore rainbow colors wore
lipstick makeup all that stuff and
people would like they try to bully me
like the a lot of jocks and stuff and it
was just something I was just really big
into that culture Die Hard freak marn
mans and stuff and um and I and they
would come and try to push me and
thinking I was gay or I was passive but
I was like I straight like they didn't
know I listened to Master P too and know
and we like I only dress like that at
school right at home I'm just I'm with
the fellas like we gangster like but at
school I like to dress up I like to play
dress up you know what I'm saying that's
just what who I was in high school and
so somebody tried to push me and think
that I was there like watch out [Â __Â ]
or something and pushed me and I took my
butt bag and hit him in the face with it
and ran up on it it was like f to go
down you know what I'm saying so people
think that you're passive because you're
spiritual or and we have to we have to
keep that at B I have to keep that that
that Derek you know what I'm saying that
Masterpiece out of me is there like I
got to keep it at Bay cuz is part of the
egoic nature you know what I'm saying
the humble more even passive there's a
time to speak up there's a time to stand
up for yourself and to stand up for
others but I would say for the most part
it's not in the comment section and
fighting trolls and cussing people out
and letting them pull you outside of
your character or whatever yeah you know
what's interesting about that is I mean
once again I have not transcended my ego
in its entirety but the but what I've
learned through disciplines is I'm not
enslaved by other people's reactions and
that's the point of of the strength I
get to choose when I engage I'm no
longer just being um put into orbit by
my ego because there's um divisiveness
or there's some adversarial Force
present like I'm not in a automatic re
reactionary position that if I do want
to get angry if I do want to respond
it's me making a conscious choice to do
that I'm not going along with that
because I feel that because my
disciplines have taught me to also
observe my emotions rather than always
participate in them and so I now can
yeah I can feel myself wanting to do
something and not in fact do it I can
feel the impulse to have this knee-jerk
reaction to something and still withhold
myself because once again once you've
been through those ego deps you
understand that I'm not what I I'm not
even what I feel I'm not the anger that
I feel I'm not these uh these chemicals
that are bouncing around and exploding
all within my brain that I'm not that
but I'm experiencing that and so we have
to get clear that we can feel and
experience things without identifying
with them I can feel angry and not
express it I can feel Jes you know feel
all those things and not not show up at
it you know the the words says that the
to sin is the act of anger not not the
experience of anger yep yep Jesus said
be angry and sin not yes and and so how
do you know what that that looks like
probably to be anger and have
sinned right you know to get angry and
to get pulled outside your character and
then show regret and show remorse you
know to like hey next time that happens
I don't want to do that and then you
find it and you do it again and then you
do it again then eventually you're like
you know what it happened
and I didn't respond that way for me in
in this Awakening in the research and
stuff like that over the years I thought
I was doing the work of God but anytime
somebody would to you know bring up a
different philosophy or whether it was
Hinduism or Buddhism or Egyptian stuff
or even Catholic or Mormon I would
educate them on why that this was not of
God and so I would train myself to
debate people and all this kind of stuff
and so I remember finding when when I
was going through this Awakening and
trying to transcend that stuff that like
if there would be things that I would
train myself that if you said I knew how
to come at you with the scriptures and
try to like debunk you and prove that
I'm right you're in sin and you need to
repent to try to get you to believe this
way and I I noticed the first time I was
around a young man who was a Catholic
and we hung out with some friends for
the weekend and there was some guy
hanging out with them and he was
Catholic and he would share a couple
things here and there and I noticed how
that I didn't hit him with that kneejerk
I didn't tell him he was wrong I didn't
tell him that they worship Mary I didn't
tell him you know all these things that
I was trained to to pull him out of that
and you know and I and and I caught
myself in that whole weekend I went home
I was like I felt like this tremendous
Victory because I had trained myself to
respond to be reactionary when you say
this I say that when you say this I say
you know what I'm saying so for me um
being in those situations I was
conscious of like man I think I'm making
strides man that I didn't do it I was I
was I was mindful is what is the word to
use you you're mindful of uh of your of
the way that you react and we're not the
best with it we're deceived sometimes
and we we're reacting without even
thinking that we are but I think having
the inner dialogue and that inner
conversation versus doing it by default
and it's just who I am or I can't stop
it the fact you know this stuff and
we're even having these conversations is
huge for a lot of people whether people
who are struggling and they know that
they're struggling listen you're good
because a lot of people don't even know
that they're just okay with who they are
and they don't want to change and
they're not convicted by that inner
voice that's telling you hey man you
need to cut that out you need to stop
that the fact that you have a conscious
is you know your this song and dance
between the higher and lower nature
because you don't know how many people
who are doing that and they don't care
about it they're not it doesn't even
phas them and that's the point of it
that's a social path like really you
know what I'm saying and it gets deep
yeah it is I like what one of your
comments said that the body is a
projection of what your soul believes
what's really powerful about that is
that there's an instance in scriptures
where I think Christ is with his
disciples and he's talking about the
prince of this world and he says um the
prince of this world is Satan and when
he comes for me he will find nothing
in
me Christ lived in a way that made him
vibrationally
incompatible with the ego and with the
principalities of this Dimension because
you can't change your enemies but what
you can do is change the Enemy Within
you see when we respond to people that
response to like if somebody come and
calls me a name I'm responding because
first of because first of all I've
assumed that that I am what you call me
I'm neither I'm neither your hero or
your villain I'm neither of those things
yeah neither you are under the
impression that I'm either a hero or I'm
a villain that's the I'm I'm none of
them but I'm all of them
too right I'm none of them but all
right to somebody else I'm a father you
know what I'm saying yeah to somebody
else I'm a
lover you know I
be the hero of your story I may be the
villain you know but you don't know
those things because like in your
identity you're none of them but that's
the interesting thing is when you become
a symbol for other people you become a
symbol of somebody who's gone astray you
be gone you become a symbol of somebody
who is uh okay in their In Their Skin
you've become a a symbol of of someone
who whatever it is and so um that's the
interesting thing have you found
yourself to be a symbol for people and
it's not even about you anymore it's
about what you represent to them when
you're conscious of that not not to get
egoic with it but just to to like look
at it okay because how can you say I'm a
hero and you say I'm a villain I'm none
of these things yeah right I'm gon be
honest I used
to identify only with the Positive part
of myself and so the admiration meant a
lot to me for sure but I've gone a step
further and I have stopped even I I just
don't identify with either if you love
me you're having your own experience of
that love if you hate me you're having
your own experience of that hate it
literally is not about me it has nothing
to do with me as you just said the ego
is under such subjective observation
that for one person truth seeker can be
a heretic yeah and and and and and and a
Satanist and to another he acted as a
catalyst to introduce me to Christ and
saved my life this man changed my life
this is my dad this is my husband like
so that just goes to show how subjective
the ego is our perception of each other
is and so the fact and so the people who
are like in this fight trying to defend
their reputation what reputation the
only reputation I have is Spirit that's
my reputation whatever you perceive that
as is your business like if you perceive
the way that this Consciousness moves
through this flesh puppet caught a body
in a way that's negative to you that has
everything to do with you same thing
positively so for me um because I know I
have an ego and I know that the ego can
be deeply narcissistic because it is all
about self-preservation the ego is
designed to the the ego is give given to
you because it's invested in self
everything is doing is to preserve self
keep self that's why so many people are
afraid to astral project because they
experienced this perception of death and
losing their mortality and so that fear
of dying that fear of
um
self-destruction they they are
intimidated by that so they don't allow
themselves to come out of their body but
that's the function of the ego to keep
you grounded it doesn't want you
attempting higher States Of
Consciousness or knowing that you are
not a soul it job is to remind you that
you have a body too like you have a
vehicle yes your vehicle pay attention
to this vehicle pay attention to this
driving it's not necessarily evil but
it's just designed to focus upon the
human version of self and
so when you become aware that you have
an ego and you aware that you're not
your ego it's just easy to just not make
other people's opinion about you because
they get to have their own experience of
you like just like we are having our
experiences of the people we perceive as
villains and old and that's just
according to us Christ was a villain
according to the
Pharisees Jesus was a villain according
to the religious church of his day I
mean you know so it's just like there is
no such thing as a reputation there's no
such thing as like defending yourself
like you're just under unfortunately you
just have a misunderstanding about who
you are you're not your ego there's
nothing to defend let them Stone let
them crucify you let them look me and
Larry Reed
you know he's a big church blogger for
those who don't know he and I um joined
forces early late last year and there
there was a very
small unattractive group of people who
decided that they wanted us to be the
bad guys in their story and they talked
and talked and trash and said everything
that they could I was called a
prostitute I was called a escort I was
called things that I'm OB obviously not
and I was framed and narrated in ways
that were really disgusting and
deplorable but I didn't feel the need to
defend myself because if that's what I
am to you as Eminem
says I I am whatever you you say I am
because a man ultimately is what he
think of and only you have the power to
change your thinking I can't change that
for you and I would never spend any of
my time changing your mind about me
because I don't even I'm not even a me
as far as I am concerned yeah for sure
I'm not even me I don't even take me
that seriously to even take what you
think about me seriously it's not real
yeah that's it's an interesting place to
be um and I think everyone is there to
some degree you know being a symbol to
someone it may not be like you know as
po you know polarizing or as big of a
number of people or whatever like in a
public eye but like everybody that you
meet you know there are conversations
that are had about you behind closed
doors that you're not supposed to hear
when you hear those and a lot of times
they're in the comment section on
Facebook they tell you don't don't read
your comments man stay all like
celebrities most of them the Smart Ones
they don't read comments they're you
know you know they'll be all over the
place they get depressed they want to
kill theyel all kind of stuff by reading
them comments and so you know you it's
kind of like let the chips fall where
they may because you represent those
different things I mean I even said that
in uh in my song I am uh I am the pride
before the fall I am the Calm before the
storm I am the hero the villain in all
I'm a devote of manly Hall like just
thinking what I am if I can put it in a
verse I'm the hero I am the villain I'm
all of it I'm everything put together it
just depends on your relationship with
me you know or my what I represent to
you you know and I actually think that
what we're talking about is exactly the
context in which God meant I do both
both good and evil I do both of those
things depends on who you ask what Jesus
said what did Jesus say who Peter who do
you say I am like I am who do the people
say say I am he probably he probably
shouldn't asked that though hey man what
do everybody say about me man they this
folks want to kill you Jesus because you
like damn you know like he probably
shouldn't have said he say hey who do
who do these people say I am well James
thinks that you're a fraud man you know
and so and so think you're this I think
that you're the most beautiful thing
that ever happened to me you know what
I'm saying he said that's it right there
that's what I'm that's what I really am
and you you're able to see that it is
only God that that you are able to see
that so very interesting that even Jesus
wanted to know the opinion and what the
people were saying but he wanted to know
superficially it was really a way for
them to measure themselves like look at
who look at look at your Source in terms
of your perception of me your Source has
been the rumor me
yeah your source of your perception has
been the tabloids it's been the
gossipers
but for Peter Peter was able to see
Christ through that yeah as the image of
God the True Divine stuff and we all
have the ability to do that you know
Hitler as cruel as he was to so many
people had people who loved him he he
had a dog that licked his face and
jumped up and wagged every time he came
through the bunker key though that's the
key yeah because there's a lot of people
even right now they can't see you they
see your
hair they see your sexuality they don't
see
you and that's the thing we're talking
about Jesus taught us to do this to see
through the
Persona my sin you know the woman with
the issue of blood The Prostitute they
seen The Prostitute Jesus seen the woman
a woman who was hurting who needed a
friend
he's seen through that so Jesus the
Bible is teaching us to look through
this stuff to be able to look through it
and I'm big on this the Bible says that
man judges by the outer appearance but
God judges the heart and through Christ
we're supposed to be able to see with
his eyes with his understanding don't
look at them oh they're lepers you
hanging out with the lepers again you're
going to get
leprosy you're G to get leprosy yeah
you're going to spread it to others
don't hang with them Jesus said no this
are people who man they got stories man
these people have seen some things man
these people are beautiful you would
never know that because you could only
see their
leprosy yeah bullsh come on man this is
I'm you talking about the heart of God
you better dive in head first you want
to see levels in glory of Heaven you
want to go talk to angels you got it you
got to deal with this you got to deal
with it and as you do it it unlocks
levels in the heavens and you ain't got
to make nothing up you ain't got to make
nothing up act talking about you
engaging with angels and Aliens you
making that [Â __Â ] up in your head to I'm
talking about the real deal what gets
you a pass in the spirit is your
integrity and and your ability to love
that's the only thing I'm telling you
man it's deep it's deep love is the
highest vibratory state that you can
walk in and in be in and Express in and
live in and dwelling and walking and I
mean it's I mean and literally it's
Universal to all religious systems they
might all they all agree on that one
fundamental principle that the nature of
whatever we're calling God whatever
we're calling the universe is love love
is the highest grade of living it's the
highest grade of functionality there
literally love is such a nuclear uh
psionic force that there are Mystics who
have brought people back to life
just by showering them in unconditional
love and realign the soul and the body
that's how was brought back to life man
yeah you know that's how I was a leper
who was cleansed from my my leprosy I
was The
Prostitute yeah you know what I'm saying
and for you to think that you're outside
of that you're deceiving yourself man
come down off of your horse Paul if you
don't I'mma knock your ass off of it and
Jesus knocked him off of it horse so he
was able to see the light it took him to
be blind in order to see the light
abolutely I'm telling you man it is it's
a marvelous thing to see that light
Caroline come on into the light Caroline
and that's all the haters are the haters
are just
Caroline come on
light that's all it is she got stuck in
the light they got stuck somewhere you
know they just need our coaching they
need us to stay in place man my on my
platform my my mods are much more
intolerant that I am because when the
haters come through I be like don't
don't block them let them I want them to
see if they can because I I'm not gonna
break I let them Stand Here let them
express it let them get it out and
exhausted because they're gonna Bend
because I'm an immovable object when I'm
on my when I'm on my God stuff what
about your guest though what about your
guest like if you have a guest on and
they're going in on the guest that you
like I don't know if they can handle
these trolls you know I get some of that
that's why like you don't see the
comments on of the screen no more cuz
like I remember having like some really
beautiful Christian people on here and
and and literal trolls will come from
twitch that's usually where they come
they they stream snip they all they jump
from stream to stream and they bring
like you know 15 20 people with them and
they go in trying to get you to respond
to them how they like pull you off of
that conversation and start talking
about this but like I've had like some
real cool Christian people on real
conservative and they're like these are
this guy's a pedophile look at them and
they're just going in I'm like oh I got
to get this off damn screen I don't want
them to see that cuz he might not come
back you know I wouldn't come back to a
stream and all you know you're because
they don't know that's not my audience
you know what I'm saying going back to
watch that and seeing that stuff come up
through there so no I agree us we you
know you've reached the level of being
able to do this to be able to you're
desensitized I guess you know no I
totally agree like when it com to my
guest of course I don't allow them you
know like it's all about hospitality and
just making sure that my guests are warm
and supported um but when it's just me
oh let let hell come bring hell on let
them all let the demons out of hell let
them out of the chambers I'm ready baby
and what's so crazy about that though is
me allowing those people to show up in
full expression of their low vibrating
self they Ronde vued with me and rendee
vued with me for weeks for days for
months until some of them eventually
even became supporters yep well that's
the thing about about like checking them
like going masterp on them like you
can't go Master P on them and I've went
Master P on and that means cussing them
out or blocking them or whatever like um
if I do that then it kills whatever
witness I got you know and they gone
yeah um but if I show love to that
individual and they say you know what
man I I was wrong I had to I had to
watch a different episode with you and
then I watched you talk about this and I
it connected things so again like that
longsuffering to be able to win them in
the end cuz I believe that we we can win
them I do I do um unless they're just
trolling you know that's one thing but
somebody who really has a genuine
disagreement listen let's talk come
together let us reason um I believe in
that but you got to be able to stick
around to do it another thing about the
trolls even trolls in the community who
show up what I like they eventually show
their true
colors you know what I'm saying so you
kind of you know want them whatever
polarity it is whether they undy support
or cut your head off and blog about you
because you got those you I try to I'm
trying to find pictures of you before we
did this show and I'm finding nothing
but response videos to you and your
content and all of this kind and there's
a bunch of people who are public I mean
it's what you do you
know comes with
Theory like that's that small group of
people that just are so PR but I but
maybe I'm just a little maniacal like I
love it like I love that I just my being
this torments and torturous
like like that I agitate the forces of
hell that much and it's and I I I've
come to have an
appreciation uh for it I really have and
I also it's matured me honestly because
I realized that being a public figure is
a part of what God just has scoped out
for my life and if I'm sweating if I'm
sweating here and this is just here this
is no magnitude you know OFA or or
Beyonce or bi it's like this is just if
I'm sweating it out here and and I can't
take these Fringe anti-group that
everyone has everyone who is somebody
has their Fringe anti- groups there's no
name you can put into the search engine
of anything and not find uh these
alternate theories about who Oprah is
who Michael is who who Whitney is who
who who whoever is I mean it just comes
with the territory and if you take
yourself seriously yeah you're not going
to make it as somebody who's living Loud
and Out in the world because the reality
is you can't actually Escape that but
hopefully you can find a way to navigate
the reality that that contrast is going
to be that it's inescapable you may be
forced to work with people who think
that way about you you may be forced to
live in a neighborhood with people who
think that way about you you don't
really get to avoid that but you do get
to experience it on your own terms and
in your own way and that doesn't
necessarily have to be a destructive
depressing experience um and I think
once again just bringing it back to the
ego the ego
exercises just fall back and realize
that you're not even you let those
people charge away at whoever they think
that you are are like it's not real they
they not even real you're not real you
all are a figment of each other's
imagination like like the ego is just
we're all figments of each other's so
just let it be I don't I I don't work
against it anymore it's just like you
know I pity I pity I pity those people
because they're disconnected and they're
crying out for help and they're
resistant to the light and they hide
themselves away and they try to bring
what's exposing them
down to their level so that that light
no longer is painful to them because as
long as you a shining Beacon they're
going to be in pain because you're
exposing the low vibratory state that
they're in which is their insecurities
or whatever it is that they feel makes
makes them inferior to you um so they're
of course going to try to reduce you try
to lower you but look just like Christ
says the pr I am very clear that the
prince of this world is Satan and when
he comes for me and he will and he does
he will find nothing in me come away
baby you will be fighting by yourself
you'll be at War by yourself you will be
over there self- imploding you will
never get me to join you ever I will
never join you in that yeah never um
that's good man and I like how you
brought those people up because
obviously like if you can't be trusted
with a few things you're not gonna be
trusted with more like you said those
bigger platforms of the opras or going
on some some kind of bigger platform
like you because because it's it's it's
a form of self-sabotage you haven't been
found you know uh handling your
responsibility righteously because you
mess it up I can't trust you with it I
can't trust you with 300 people uh
watching your videos there's no way I
can trust you with 30,000 or you know
300,000 or whatever so that's a big part
you're going to make the will of God
because you're going to make a god work
about you you're going to make it about
your ego you're going to be caught up in
the you that's not God ain't even if if
it was about you God wouldn't even
probably be using you because God would
think the very same things that them
haters think like it's not even about
you so you lit upon God's work by even
engaging that that attitude like it's
literally so um but you kind of but
there's a couple things I want to
address here because like um first of
all I I make it to bigger levels for
myself of trans
when I think about Joel and his haters
and how many you know is he reading the
comment section does he worry about
everybody talking crap about him and
there's a plethora everybody just like
you said so I put myself even though I
don't have that kind of platform I put
myself in their position and that helps
me not to that helps me not to really go
in on some of the haters and stuff but
you kind of you you still you deal with
a lot of Gossip stuff like that's kind
of the pop culture and gossip you know
getting in the dirt and messing with it
so I mean when you're blogging about
others or or doing shows about others
and covering stuff and giving your
opinion you know people gonna do that
about you too you know so that's kind of
like well the thing about the thing for
me is I make it different for me like I
don't just report the news I use what's
going because I know that the larger
society is looking at those things and
eating from that plate um so I try to I
know that the Bible says to be like as
cunning as wolves but to be as a gentle
as doves and so I realize that often
times the enemy is clever enough to know
that to infiltrate spaces it will
present itself as a sheep so now I've
gotten into the practice of coming in
the costume of a wolf when really I'm a
sheep so I'm going to present cardi B
and talk about Megan the stallionaire
and talk about um whatever but the
conversation we're going to have is
going to be it's going to be something
that you can take take something away as
it Rel your relationship as it relates
to things that maybe go on in your life
and maybe even bring a spiritual or even
like a kind of a therapy session to what
a lot of these celebrities go through so
for me I'm not just a typical secular
blogger in terms of cardi B uh fagina is
exposed and let's talk about what it
looks like and blah blah blah blah blah
like I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about this
happened and then we're going to talk
about our responses why are we making
the situation worse for cardi B I'm
going to talk about maybe um how this
manifestation is a ego def for cardi B
like she constantly is in these
situations where the universe keeps like
blowing her spot and then she keeps
responding thinking that the point of
her spot being blown is to respond when
really the universe is giving you that
iron so that you would just be like you
know
what I'm a celebrity you guys are going
to talk and I can't keep getting up here
defending my reputation I mean we are
sick of cardi be response videos it's
just like girl it's not that serious
you're winning irregardless of what
everyone is saying your platform is huge
your bank account is huge your marriage
your children you you're you're winning
but you are so compartmentalized that
there's a part of you that is also so
deeply disconnected and insecure that
the reason you respond is because a part
of you beliefs that you aren't even
worthy of what you're living and that's
why what those people say stings because
it appeals to the part of you that
doesn't even feel you don't even feel
worthy of all that God has done for you
and so when they say that it makes you
go into the part of you that doubts
yourself too like you know what I don't
deserve this I'm not talented enough for
this and I struggle with my insecurity
as a writer as a rapper and so that's
just and that's what Christ is talking
about when he said the enemy is going to
come in this world but he's not going to
find nothing enemy he's built his
self-esteem up because of God's attitude
about him not man's so when the attitude
of the opposing Force comes baby once
again you you you talking to the air
you're talking to the air that stuff
goes in one ear and goes out the other
it has no substance it has nothing
there's nothing in me that's going to
hold it in inside it's going to move
through me ring that judgment going to
move through me there's none of that is
sub that's not the substance I even pull
my identity from so there's no appeal
there's no attraction to it so it's it's
it literally just falls on a deaf Spirit
yeah I mean um I had to go through that
a couple years ago um went through some
really hard stuff where like some people
who were really close to me and in
Ministry and friendship wise and stuff
like that just like you know it was the
pendulum of like in church out of church
like esoteric oh God I better run back
to Jesus because these it's too deep you
know what I'm saying so you run back to
what's familiar hell we've all done it
I'm in your transition and you coming
out owning who you are it just happens
and you many of you listening to this
are going through that pendulum
experience now it's normal it's okay you
got to get comfortable in who you are
when I was going through that I had some
I had a friend who like went just you
know jump back in church and all that St
and just really renounced me and he went
on like this whole like campaign against
me smear campaign yeah and it was like
going live every night with like all of
our mutual friends and um he was like
telling them secret making up weird
stuff about me he he I knew some stuff
on him and I kind of threatened him with
it because they were like coming at me
it's like hey man like you got me
wanting to do what you doing because
they were doing it in real small segment
and and it freaked them out and he just
went it all in he said yes my wife is
doing this and Truth Seeker is the demon
and Truth Seekers and the kundalini's
got him and he's teaching people and I
don't want to be judged for leading
people astray like I mean he drugged
this out for weeks like this became his
message right and so I'm doing my part
and it really hurt me for sure cuz we
were really close you know and we have a
lot of mutual friends and a lot of you
know a lot of stuff together and um and
then um he just went open like open a
lot of stuff like how how I wouldn't do
music with him and do features with him
and stuff because he didn't sound like a
deep esoteric rapper he just went in
every night and I was like you know what
I ain't watching it man I'm just F to
block it I'm blocking it and anybody
coming to me he ain't got time for that
man I got [Â __Â ] to do you know what I'm
saying I got a podcast to run if I start
like they wanted me to respond they
wanted me to uh to like give it
publicity cuz there was a lot of people
in my community who had no idea who this
guy is and still don't and uh and maybe
I I would have turned them on to him and
his message or hey maybe you are leading
us astray CU a lot of people already
feel that way coming from religion and
we're talking about Kundalini or aliens
hell that's already demonic like we said
from the beginning so I was like and I'm
not F to talk about it I'm not F I'm not
F to do nothing they trying to pull me
out everyday live stream I'm not going
to watch them live stream and I didn't
watch any of them people would tell me
hey man he did another one man and I
have people like you know take away
their patreon support or whatever and or
whatever say hey that's on them like you
going through your own Awakening if you
resonate with me you got to understand
as a leader and as a teacher or just as
an individual that you got people that's
only that's only going to ride with you
for a couple miles man and those miles
might be three years but that fourth
year when you said that you like you
love gay people it's over I'm dealing
with messages right now in my in inbox
as we talk it's
over it's over you got to understand
listen it ain't it ain't
personal ain't nothing personal Junior
see it's all about
respect yeah it ain't it's it ain't
person it ain't about you let become
water my friend let it go it's people
that only going to walk with you three
years until you say you you this until
you start making money from what you
doing until this until they got them
people so God bless them people who have
here since the beginning them day ones
who were still with you man
look I'm here you you my people like but
the scary thing is for me and it just
part of it it's part it messes with you
because you it makes you look at all
those other people the same way damn
what what I'm gonna say to run you off
you know you and I look at people who
I'm just like cuz I'm I'm in it because
I come from you know my dad left and my
I just unstable relationships as a child
so like I'm wanting to keep things the
way they are you know wife child I want
everything to stay the same and I
especially I've met a place where things
are going good so you want it to stay
good right um but such as this this life
as [Â __Â ] changes um so I I look at people
and I'm like man how long are they going
to be here it's sad and I hate it I hate
it hate it D and they true S I love you
work
man [Â __Â ] how
long how long are you are you just next
week are you a three-year dude are you
man oh and I'm just talking about
friendship stuff so those people in your
life that you can be open with and you
can I can tell you anything and I know
you Devon like I can tell you anything
you don't give a damn you like you're a
real individual and I got those people
in my life but I just hate it to like
people who I really admire yeah and even
I'll have this conversation with them
yeah man it' be something you know you
ain't going to like about me eventually
or whatever and not I'm trying to to
make it personal it's just a thing yeah
do you feel that way do you
get I used to but that's AAL reason why
I had to evolve to where I am because I
just couldn't live that way I value
friendships man I you
know I value friendship too but let me
tell you like I mean a lot of people
think that I'm a buck wild person
because I just have this like social
Rebel appearance and I'm kind of like I
talk a lot of crap about societ and
religion and so you know like I so I um
but I'm a deeply sentimental person as
well yeah and one of the things that
well first of
all like what you said about money is
very interesting people will like you
until you start making money yeah there
are parts of your
following that want you doing good but
not better than them yeah and there are
people in your life who want you doing
good but not better than them um
secondly you know I have just come to
appreciate that iron because I think
that we need these anti-g groups against
us also to filter out our tribe members
like I need that anti-group to exist so
that I can see who's silly enough to
bite that Apple who's silly enough to
give in to that because as it relates to
My Tribe that's a closed Circle and I
don't want nobody who is who whose
agenda is completely opposite of My
Tribe even infiltrate in my circle and
sometimes when you start really getting
into cleaning up your circle or you're
moving and you're expanding you're going
to see that the universe is going to
yeah create a censorship in your life
it's going to start censoring or
separating the wheat from the tail and
so people who you thought was really
down for you you're going to watch those
relationships dissolve people who been
supporting you until you expanded in
this way are going to now and that's
fine one of the most and this is look
this why I love Christ because if it
wasn't for this if it wasn't for the
leadership an example of Christ I just
would not have a I wouldn't have like
that truth to Aspire to war but I loved
how
Judas gave up his
for silver and gold yeah few
dollars and Christ told
him to kiss kiss me and get it over
with he his friends rejected him three
four
times men who made promises to have his
back to be r a die for him betrayed him
and you never once saw Christ make what
they did or the expiration of their time
with him about
him it it wasn't about him because as a
human being who has a soul you're moving
through this life experience you have to
realize there are people who are on your
ship but for right now they're on your
and that's fine we don't have to
villainize those people even though they
may villainize us when the expiration
date comes because I understand that
seasons and reasons allow for proximity
and closeness and it's okay when it
doesn't work anymore it's okay when you
have found a reason for you to remove
yourself as you continue to deal with
the mantle on your life and the god you
serve God will Rectify you God will keep
dealing with you because look you going
to be you going to be a repeat offender
anyway you can remove me but you can't
remove the L you can remove the
messenger but you can't remove the
message so you under the impression that
moving me out of the way because I'm
your opponent or because you're jealous
or because you you have some contrasting
idea to me is going to you that you are
avoiding something the universe is just
going to slap just going to give this
message to another messenger and you're
going to be right there rende deing with
the same part of yourself that made you
make those dumb behind decisions last
year or two years ago with somebody who
wasn't even out or against you or
wasn't or who would have always provided
a space for you but we got allow we we
have to allow people to get there I got
to allow you to get there I can't get in
the way of that I can't make your
experience of me about me because I'm
going to also miss where I'm going as a
result so if you find some reason to
jump off God bless you and thank you
thank thank you thank you for everything
up to this point but like I said at this
point I don't distinguish between the
heroes or the villains they all do they
all accomplish the same thing in our
lives so I thank every all of them yeah
yeah yeah thank you to the villains and
thank you to the heroes thank you to
those who love me and thank you to those
who don't because those who don't remind
me of why I need to love me and why I
need to believe in me and why I need to
be in what I'm doing because I can't
trust people to sustain my attitude of
myself I can't trust people to sustain
my confidence to myself because I don't
need my attitude changing when your
attitude of me
change I don't need that so I can't have
no relationship to what you think about
me we can only just genuinely Vibe and
do what we do and when it just stops
working it's fine it's fine and it did
take a lot to get there because I
started off like you of course we all
start there all because we've been
trained to be invested in other people's
opinion about this though because like
don't the thing about the haters though
I got this in one of my songs like
haters will tell you things about
yourself that your friends aren't going
to tell you your Yes Men or whatever
like so what if you got to be mindful
this I know this leads into being
mindful but what if um you know they're
right what if you are all of these
things that they're saying do you have
to I feel like you have to like ask
yourself those things first and see if
they stick you
know what would you
say okay hold on say that last part
again like what like because your
haters would say things to you that
other people ain't ain't going to say to
you you know what I'm saying those
people so what if you really are money
hungry what if you really are all about
the dollar right what if these what if
these things that they're saying is true
you know what I'm saying versus um
they're just mad at me or you know
what's funny about that what's funny
about that is you don't even need
anybody to tell you what's true because
your own priorities tell you what's
true if you can't do if you can't do
nothing and go nowhere and show up and
do nothing without it being about money
you already know who your God is yeah if
you can't even it it takes an outside
source to reveal that sometimes you know
it takes to be like
you know having those failed I feel like
when it's repetitive too like if it's
the same type of people that's coming in
your life to not to be bullheaded to
like I can't be taught to be like damn
maybe I I mean see that's where change
and growth comes in too feel like I feel
like you have to be a little bit
mindful from the things they say not at
all I don't I don't have to receive
anything from a ill-intended messenger
the see you're not supposed to be ha in
me to begin with because then I would
never have to miss the message because I
can't see past your delivery and your
personality you hate me every step of
the way but and then you want me to sift
through and find the stuff that could be
beneficial no if you want what you're
saying to be tooken into
consideration then how about you get up
off the pedestal and get up off of the
vibration of the enemy and present
yourself as someone who has a valuable
input and valuable insight and carry
yourself in a maturity so that when I
look at what you're saying I can
consider that that the source of what's
being communicated is well therefore
there may be a reason for me to hear
this message and take in this
constructive criticism but if haters
think that people are going to sit
through all their nastiness and then the
one time you say something that actually
is true and that could useful that I'm
going to like do the job no if the
message if what you're saying to me
meant as much as you want it to mean to
me you would present it differently then
from the context of being a hater yeah
present that message as a context love
let me tell you something I'm with you
though I'm with you because I'm G tell
you this people don't really listen to
their haters but what they a message
they will take heed to is one carried
by a multitude of people who they
respect and love if if more than one
person I love in my life keep saying the
same thing keep offering the same
criticism I I will bow to that message
yeah I'll bow to that message because
the message is going to get to you but
we don't have to take on abuse and take
on slander and take on those things just
to like whatever because the loving
people in your life but see also we got
to distinguish because there's a
hierarchal system to love you got
immature love immature loving people are
going to be your yes man so so they're
not really useful but you get those
people in your life who are who have a
mature love for you and in the maturity
of that love they're going to
communicate not only what you want to
hear but they have the capacity to
communicate what you need to hear M and
when sit you down and talk to you
they're going to communicate that
message from a place of love some of the
most powerful criticisms of me have come
from people carefully speaking to me
people who love me sitting down with me
creating an intimate atmosphere and
sharing and having some really tough
conversations and that atmosphere
cultivated uh cultivated both of our
ability to have tough conversations but
in a loving way but with out that love
there people not it's like a Donald
Trump a lot of people voting against
Donald Trump haven't even looked at
Donald Trump's policies because they
can't even get past his personality his
personality is so repulsive to some
people his Antics are so ridiculous that
they can't even look at the presidency
itself or the legislation or the
policies because he presents himself his
Persona eclipses whatever good or
whatever it is he may actually be
bringing to the table of America that
could be beneficial and that's why we
should be so mindful about the way we
personify ourselves and we should be
studious as not only students but as
teachers as public figures but also as
support us if we really are looking to
encourage our fellow man like you're not
going to do that from a low vibrating
energy you're going to get back what you
give when somebody shuts the door and
don't want to hear what you got to say
because you're a hater it is what it is
you're a hater I ain't I don't y the way
you entered already like he who knock
got no answer when you a hater when you
a hater you knock knock knock no answer
so I just I mean but I'm with you I
think that for people who are very egist
like for me I can sift through the
hating and look at the criticism because
I'm just there but for the average
person they're not there yet they need
people who love them to tell them the
truth and not people who despise demean
degrade and want to see them off
themselves communicate any valuable
truth to them yeah so it's hard bro um
being a Visionary being a leader um I
feel like I've had those people in my
circle before and I have people in my
circle I feel like they call me out I
feel like they do it in 11 way and we
can agree to disagree too but they still
my people you know what I'm saying shout
out I've got it's only a couple um but I
have those people all you need is a
couple I know right you don't need 70
people right telling you you're messing
up you know um but yeah man it gets uh
it's Lonely at the Top the stress when
success comes you know play your
position regardless of the outcome you
know some little I in there years ago um
man so good though you know just
preparing people you know if you want if
you want platform um if you want if you
want to stand up for your message like
that that gives you a platform right to
have a voice or a message that's a
platform so and to be vocal about it
versus keeping it to yourself all of
this stuff comes and you got to be open
and honest you can't keep it in you got
to learn to laugh you got to learn to
love it comes with the territory um
let's change up let's change it up a
little bit because you mentioned carolan
let's talk about TV a little bit uh
conscious TV right okay so before we get
into that can we take another
waterink too much water I think I got
another commercial man go ahead cuz I'm
drinking this and it's moving through me
you got a minute or two hurry we'll be
right back
Elemental are different are really
strange I've seen
Elementals I've had oneon-one experience
with
Elementals I don't know exactly what
they are all I know is what to call them
but I have
I've had incidents where I have been in
the company of
Elementals they are Spirit creatures
like fairies and the Irish are very big
on talking about the the different
fairies and the different magical Little
Creatures leprechauns I have seen gnomes
and
leprechaun and
fairies these are what we call the
Elementals they they are legitimately
life forms but they don't live in the
world you do they live in a different
kind of world an elemental world but we
call them the
Elementals that's uh it's quite a
subject life outside of being a human
what is life like in the spirit world
and that's what you're talking about in
your
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of it Spirit real so uh yeah I'm G talk
to you about movies man because I've
been wanting like we're getting close to
Halloween and uh like I like to talk
about spooky stuff too right that's not
not all love and light like the spooky
stuff is the contrast of the love and
light you know um just really quick you
probably haven't seen it but did you
watch blind Manor on Netflix
The Haunting of blind man I've never
even heard of blind Manor no uh what
about The Haunting of Hill House did you
hear of that one I've seen a lot of the
hauntings of but not necessarily Hill
House no
okay all that stuff but not yeah these
are these are dope man um it'll mess
with you about like death in the
afterlife and Spirits lingering and
trying to influence you and stuff like
that so there's two there's two uh
seasons of it on Netflix it's really
good we just finished the second one
which is the haunting of blind Manor but
um a lot about spirits and channeling
and mediums and Spirits jumping in
bodies and stuff and really really good
stuff um interesting stuff anyway so ask
you about that like what about horror
movies and stuff where Halloween do you
watch horror movies did you watch horror
movies what do you feel about that man
horror movies are my favorite genre of
movies and and and and Cinema like I
have been I've been addicted to Freddy
Kruger Jason scream like culture guys
the easist since I've been a child my
mama used to be freaked out like what is
wrong with you why are you into all of
this craziness how can you watch this as
a little innocent baby like but you know
I
realized one of the well not only do I
like the adrenaline that comes from
being scared because I like to scare the
crap out of myself but I realized as I
got older that my attraction to horror
to the horror genre is because it was
one of the only genres for a long time
that really dealt with the
Supernatural and I always had an
interest yep and always had you know a
attraction to the Paranormal to the
supernatural so unfortunately you know
the genre I mean the horror genre you
know even though it had to portray the
supernatural as something evil and
wicked and always scary and terrifying
but it was like the only the only faucet
to really you know be able to see what
the supernatural looks like and to see
how things can manifest and what the
spirit world is like so yeah I
absolutely love like Halloween for me is
like all year round there's no such
thing as like the month of October you
always dressing
up yes like I mean what like I live I'm
with you um scariest horror movie scene
like what is one that's like kind of
messed you up or like it just stands out
as like one of the scariest first of all
there's this movie called
martyr and it's like a um I don't know
where it it was produced at and directed
but it's not like in English so the
subtitles are C that my one of my best
friends showed me this movie earlier
this year the trippiest thing I've ever
seen in my entire I mean it's gruesome
for one it's psychological
to and it's just freaky and it actually
was but it was the the message was so
powerful that it
literally it kind of um helped me to
understand some things even about like
the black community and maybe why we're
in the position that we're in within
like World politics and American
politics but check out
martyr is is it a lgbtq
movie huh is it a LGBT uh movie no it's
not LGBT at all cuz the first thing that
comes up is uh martyr movie 2018 martyr
official trailer bgp Indie lgbtq movie
is it it like yeah no no no no and this
it's I don't even think that this like a
recent movie like this yeah I have a
link that I'm gonna um because my best
friend sent me the link in my DMs
because he had to search it on on Google
and um probably there's another one here
from 2008 it looks
like a
horror can you read the description of
that one so I can see if that's it's got
two girls and there's like a dude on the
cross um yeah I think that's it like
does it look like an American movie is
it has like does it have like foreign
language and stuff I don't know I don't
know or does it give you like a
despar uh myen jump yeah they're foreign
they're foreign it's foreign names yeah
it's in French it looks
like looks like it's in French
yeah but that was one of the ones that
That Shook You in a but that was in a
good way bad way just a deep conscious
way it was look every time I was shook
like the whole table was just the whole
house was shook the ceiling the Flor
like it just shook me in scary way it's
look it's terrifying but it's literally
profound like I don't even understand
how they accomplish all of that in a
horror movie like yeah it's profound the
message is so deep but it's also like I
said it's scary it's gruesome
his faces being peeled off his skin
being peeled off I mean it is it is
psychological I mean it is emot it's the
movie is everything like everything but
what I will say one of the dopest horror
movie
scenes is the first nightmare on M
Street when Tina got dragged up that
wall and got dragged across that ceiling
in her sleep and just watching Freddy
like mutilate her but her boyfriend was
only seeing like the physical version of
The Assault so he just saw his
girlfriend like being plasted up against
the like who does that like who gets
dragged up a wall in a mer like I was
just like Wes Craven you are sick like
you are geniusly sick because that was
just so creative also another scene in
that movie that was so trippy in the
first nightmare was when Nancy's
boyfriend got murdered by getting sucked
through
the bed and all that blood that just
it's like you have to be a little
twisted and into some occultic stuff to
get these visuals because like you can't
come up with this what about the one
where they they the one that sticks out
to me that was weird where they uh had
the the woman I believe it was or dude
like like a puppet with their veins
coming out their wrist walking like a
puppet walking off the edge of the
building like that was kind of trippy
yeah like that was dream um I think I
was uh a dream Walker that that Freddy
movie freaked me out like I I love the
Freddy genre like the Freddy genre was
because also a lot of people don't
realize the nightmare on INR series is
birthed out of the concept of lucid
dreaming and astral projection I was
gonna say yeah because you can kill you
in your dreams and then you have to go
in because there was one that was you
got to wake yourself up out of the dream
I learned to do that as a child you know
um the interesting thing is like was one
where they were like we're going to go
and we're going to kill Freddy and they
were getting ready to go to sleep to go
do it so they were like like consciously
going to lucid dream and go into their
dream to fight Freddy U which was
interesting which is like a lucid dream
or you know wanting to to travel in your
dreams or whatever so that was cool yeah
that was Major like what is some of your
favorite I guess horror my f my favorite
is my first one I've got some cool
horror t-shirts man like I collect
horror t-shirts of my favorite I got a
couple Creep Show Creep Show was big you
know what I'm saying that which was the
creature in the Box do you remember that
in the80s where it was uh Stephen King
and George Romero worked together on
that and so there was just one where
they get this box delivered to this um
college and it's this hu it's called the
crate and they got the crate and it's
under they got it well they find it
under the uh stairs and they're like
What's in the crate and they open it up
and it's like it's a Tasmanian devil but
it looks like this monster and dude
sticks his arm in there and it rips his
arm off or whatever oh wow that that was
a crazy one but probably my first one
and I have a I have a t-shirt of this
one is the gate the movie called The
Gate um my dad uh I remember I only have
a few few memories of my dad he
literally gave me a name and gave me
away uh so I have a few memories like
two three years old or whatever um but I
remember sitting in his lap whenever um
the gate came out and I remember
watching this scary movie and it showed
these little minion demons these little
bitty demons came running out and it
scared the piss out of me and I was
remember being a little kid and I just
screamed and put my hands over my eyes
and I remember and this is probably some
traumatic trauma stuff too cuz I
remember it so vague so so so good um I
put my hands over my he grabbed my hands
and pulled them away but I couldn't shut
my eyes and I was looking at these
little demons that just ah
and I remember like that was like a an
entrance almost to like nightmares and
and stuff that happened to me when I was
literally like three years old but to
this day it's so
nostalgic and I'm in love with it you
know what I'm saying like I love the
horror genre as well and the emotions
that comes comes from that stuff so the
gate which is uh Steven dorf and I'm
have to watch that I never seen a gate
oh yeah it's really good really good and
uh you know another movie that gave me
night was like Hellraiser like that that
was a weird one fat one remember the big
fat the big fat monster was weird yeah
like all his minions were so like crazy
and aggressive and monstrous looking I
was like man I'm not going to hell I am
definitely not going to hell Candyman
was another one like something about
this big tall man with this beat Barone
voice with this nasty hook just shoved
where his hand used to be like making
another one and I man Jordan P has been
on it like but I heard that it's been
postponed so they pushed it back
apparently yeah they're also working on
a new Freddy there's a new Freddy that's
in work as well yeah speaking of Jordan
pill one of my favorite movies of all
time is get out just because all of the
emotion that I experienced while
watching it because I'm like I'm sitting
I'm watching it with my daughter in in
the in the theaters and uh there's a
bunch of black folks around me
and I'm like oh [Â __Â ] we watching a movie
about they're kidnapping black folks to
make them be slaves and CU that's what
you think when you watching it you plot
twist but like you because my my
favorite thing in movies is the twist I
love to watch a movie an hour two hours
in and all of a sudden one thing happens
and it undoes everything that you
watched and and they're and they're
doing this a lot more now the first one
was like the secret window where you're
watching this movie then at the end plot
twist oh wow that guy was never really
there that was his imagination you know
and so a lot of this stuff even like you
know saying blind Manor was a lot of
that with ghosts they're interacting
with people that they think are there
but they're stuck in memories that are
because they're dead and they're just
reliving crazy stuff um but no that was
huge for me I I really like that like
Jordan Peele kind of brought horror
movies back like horror movies took a
huge like tumble but like it was but was
even cuz I remember when
um gosh I can't even think of
it um
yes uh get out
and it's on my mind it's on my mind it's
on my mind the second one no um gosh
hold on it's right there it's right
there what's the mo the purge like okay
because I realized what was terrifying
is because they took
like things that could be possible like
and was taking like these things that
were kind of relevant to the culture
like a get out was about like the
subliminal of like racism in America and
then like The Purge was just about like
this corrupted government and just and
those things were especially in the age
of Donald Trump like those things were
like could be real like and it was so I
thought it was so creative for them to
take reality and show us actually how
terrifying
reality what do you call that it's a
social commentary is what it it came out
to be social commentary you thought it
was a horror movie but it was a social
commentary yeah um for me as as a kid
the scariest movies were Alien movies
because of that because that's I thought
that they were real that these aliens
because you watch and even as a kid as a
little kid there there you know you
watch it and it's just based on a true
story
and then you watch Unsolved Mysteries
based on a true story and UFO was cited
over and took seven people like oh damn
like they can really show up and take
you so those for me were the monsters or
the Gremlins or whatever that were most
likely real and going to come get me one
day you know so for me the alien thing
was a huge hurdle to get over now to
where I am in my Awakening because I
have watched all these horror movies and
I thought that they were mon they're
going to come kidnap me and and do
experiments on me and stuff like on uh
Fire in the Sky you know that kind of
stuff so a big part of my even Awakening
is the you know with the alien stuff is
yeah um that I overcame that fear that I
was always scared of and I'm still like
there's still a little bit of it there
honestly but um you know I love those
movies because it made it real but then
again there's other people here in the
chat talking about Chucky Chucky doll
hell I thought Chucky was real Chucky
was funny like Chucky was a
hilarious like villain like first one
the first one he was SC yeah the first
one was like the classic I mean like
when she threatened when she held him up
talk to me you her and he woke up and
called her every name in the book for
her hair I literally was screaming at
that scene like I was hollering like
because I used to think my dogs were
real though man I used my mom my mom
would tell me stories and I kind of
remember a little bit like of uh like
hey you got to get this D like put
making her come get my doll off the bed
and like I swore that it moved and stuff
and all kind of little stuff yeah after
watching I remember when Tails from the
hood had came out and like one of the
episode well one of the like one of the
little stories told was about like a the
voodoo like it was like these voodoo
dolls that came to life and they killed
like this this woman I think in the
house like that freaked me out I used to
think that my toy soldiers were going to
like wake up at night when I was asleep
and just like try
yeah he he took the flag and started
hitting the picture started hitting the
picture like started
bleeding crazy I'm like where does this
come from so it's wow but somebody also
I think it was Kyle uh mentioned the
fourth have you seen the fourth car see
I didn't watch that because it came out
it came out during my Awakening when I
was out summoning and signaling UFOs
under the night sky and that came out
and I was like yeah I don't think I
should watch that because it's going to
scare me and when something shows up I'm
going to be scared so I'm trying to undo
the fear so I had seen the previews and
stuff so which was about around 20
anywhere from like 2010 to 2012 and all
that kind of stuff so I made sure I
stayed away from that because I was
undoing that traum stuff but it's a but
it's sickening that that is a sick
that's a dope dope dope horror movie
like it put owls and stuff like but it
was really aliens like people just have
these memories people's brains couldn't
even take like what they were actually
experiencing so the brain would
compensate by like seeing the ow but the
ow was just a representation of
something that the brain couldn't even
understand and it was hitting away and
all this symbolism but even like the are
you gonna watch the movie like can I
just like goe yeah who knows but go
ahead yeah yeah you can you can SP okay
I was gonna K like it was the first it
was one of the first alien driven think
movies that like the spin on it was so
dope because in the
end they were gods or whatever right
they thought they were gods and then it
kind of like for those who have like
this Theology of like the
Nephilim and all of that and Fallen
Angels it was just so
interesting what my brain started doing
at the idea of like these
extraterrestrial beings being like
descent being like fallen angels and
they're like parading around cultures as
pharaohs and kings and they're being
worshiped also as Gods a lot of times uh
like these serpent these serpent
Bloodlines that a lot of these Egyptian
families are connected through like it's
just it was wild but I thought it was
just so it was such a dope spin on the
alien movie yeah uh the homie um Brandon
uh Higgins posted he says it's perfectly
Splendid it's a quote from uh BL Manor
so I guess he watched it for sure yeah
dude it's good you got to watch the
first one though like dude it's a really
good like it had me look had me tripping
though like I could tell on the podcast
like I was on here cuz talking about
death a lot and like freaking out like
thinking about the after like I'm still
like as much as at peace I am with
whatever comes just like I don't want to
die I'll tell you straight up like I
want this to continue forever and it it
had it it made for some really good post
podcast discussions by myself but even I
would introduce stuff to a certain guest
or whatever and like um the fear of
dying cuz like even the fear of like
What If Heaven is not as fun as Earth
you know what I'm saying like what if
cuz you never going to get to taste
chocolate anymore you're never going to
know what a kiss feels like you're never
going to get to put your feet on the
grass like you know what I'm saying so
it's like press things of Life yeah the
things you take for granted the taste of
chocolate and I remember when that hit
me like a revelation after watching this
stuff and thinking about death and so
these movies and stuff like movies hey
the movies and TV and all of this stuff
dude like that's it's a portal bro to
the spirit world for sure that's how TVs
were made they can introduce stuff to us
that we accept then it becomes second
nature through a movie it's crazy but uh
but I love it let see the the horror
genre is also responsible for a lot of
the fear around the
Supernatural and around Theoden
mysticism the the the horor Gen is
responsible for that let's flip it let's
think of Supernatural movies that
um you know released magic in you that
weren't
scary alien movies cocoon Flight of the
Navigator those were Lord of the Rings
Lord of the Ring dude that's I had just
got saved watching that and I that was
just a download that was yeah that was a
download that was a download well I came
back to the lore like when it came out
so cuz it was like around 2000 2001
something like that um no for me
watching that that was a dialogue with
the Holy Spirit like wow you know that
and Narnia but those movies are written
I think with that in mind you know yeah
I think there's a lot of them that are
though I like the craft too it was like
a balance between like the good use of
power and the like ego use of power but
I was I got my life off the craft I I
was gonna um I was gonna bring that up
because see that that's what got me into
witchcraft like like really deep like I
was always on the fence and studying a
little bit but that's what propelled me
in um and it's not for me I have a
negative connotation with that because I
I went dark like I even though the craft
doesn't really paint it dark it shows
you how it can get dark yeah with uh
what's her name uh baroo faroo or
whatever um like but that opened the
door I know like the character name is
Nancy Nancy I know they been they never
so what that being said there's a remake
of it yeah watch I watched the preview
and it looked pretty good but they'll
never never be another Nancy but you
know why that is well yeah no nobody
played sick and crazy like that actress
like she definitely gave it up in that
role especially in the end when she was
like in the hospital and she like yeah
strapped I was like wow she's playing
the crap out of this role and I love it
um let's see her name was um uh the girl
that played the Fuso BK fuzi a balk and
uh I haven't seen her in too many other
things really it's the thing she's
always nany I don't want to see her and
nothing else
that's po baby yeah it's like when you
start seeing your favorite characters
who play these big roles and then they
try to
like in your mind they're typ casted
like how are we seeing like Queen that's
why they times don't even get a lot of
other work because they they get stuck
in that in that feel they should
accepted though you know what I'm saying
like espe nobody want to end their
career with one big moment like back in
the
80s yeah I you know I think I was um one
of the actors from I think the second or
third Nightmare on M Street he talked
about how that movie pretty much killed
his career Robert England will always be
Freddy you you know and Robert England
of course like will always be Freddy uh
there but you know a lot of these movies
that reference like that was like that
are a part of pop culture and were
sensationalized like a lot of the
reasons why those movies worked like
Dead Presidents bad boys like um set it
off like all these just yeah like Mrs D
fight it it had a lot to do with where
the culture was too we're living in an
age that doesn't have a culture we don't
have a culture America doesn't a America
is just a mess right now so there's no
mood to America anymore it's just chaos
and so the art that does come out is
like it's so independent because it it
it's not able to use the culture as a
catalyst for real like impact and
influence so like these these artistic
people have to go like Jordan Peele had
to really get in the paint and think
about what type of horror movie to
really produce because he knew that you
know there isn't anything that this is
off of the backs of like this artist
gonna have to be just good for itself
but a lot of the stuff that we
referenced that had us feeling good that
really impressed Upon Our Spirits was
because the culture was just different
in the 90s and the 80s like this like
2000 like 2010 to like 2020 is just
there is no culture it's just like a
culturist nation there's just like stuff
being created but there's no soul
there's no Collective Soul To America
it's just everything is just like
platter plastered across the wall and
it's weird and so nothing is sticking
like that it's almost like the Pharisees
again like having that shell but there's
no Spirit In It music You music and it's
empty like the music don't even have the
same meaning like it's just yeah like
like stuff used to have a movement like
I remember when Janet Jackson's Velvet
Rope came out in the 90s like that was a
thing like people lined up outside of
Sam goody and like these CD stores that
we don't anymore like there was
like I don't know it was just yeah I
missed that I I it feels weird Living in
America because nothing feels exciting
no more it's just like but I wonder I
wonder if that's with age though you
know because our because our our parents
would say the same thing about our
culture and our um generation you know
how you know the the music is mumbo
jumbo booty shaking music or whatever
they would call the hip-hop or whatever
we were listening to like their music
was real music organic their movies
their content you know there's always
this change and this this Gap that
exists between the cultures and I have
my daughter turned 16 today happy
birthday NAA um but there's that there's
that generation gap even her music you
know and um and but but I I see what
you're saying but I wonder if they sense
that they don't sense that because they
don't have nothing to weigh against we
do we have the '90s we have going to the
movie stores and rent
we got Nostalgia for days and for days
and for days and I love it I love
Nostalgia that's why I got them horror
movie t-shirts it's for nostalg right
but they don't have nothing to weigh
that against so it's interesting to see
how they view life you know in this
place that we see that's dead of emotion
there's some emotion in it there's some
I everything is here but it just feels
like it has no order it's just like
stuff is just happening but it's not
like it has I don't I don't I don't know
if they feel like that though I know we
feel like that I'm with you because I'm
100% with you I get it I think they feel
like that too because they also have
some classic memories from the 80s and
the 90s like they remember those times
that they know that there's even though
they will find stuff in our generation
that's like y'all Wilding but it's like
even they like have their sentiments
around that coach and they can feel the
emptiness of where we are now like and
even it even feels empty to us like I
feel like this is why your suicide rate
has tripled like why violence has just
like just pouring out into the streets
because we're just at this like soulless
place of just like existing and we're
not really living and we're just moving
through but we don't really know what's
going on and where we're going and where
it's all going and it just feels like
we're all in these little independent
clubs but that we're not just together
like there was a sense of like some type
of unity and and
um I don't know they just seemed like
there was just some type of a collect I
felt like we was a part of a collective
in the 90s and the 80s but between 20 10
and 2020 I just feel like I've been on
my own I feel like I've been in my own
like my music like the music I listen to
means a lot to me but there's like no
movement like the stuff I like like mean
something to me but it's not even even
like new music from those artist you
don't take it serious you don't take it
serious it's not yeah because it's it's
like a new juvenile song is like eh a
new whatever Creed song like it doesn't
matter because it's like been whether
it's been done or I'm like that with a
lot of music anyway though like their
sophomore releases like the first
freshman of sophomore release because
you know they really wanted it like they
had a voice or whatever juvenile you
listen to juvenile now even the way he
sounds what he's writing about
song structure it's different than first
hot boy stuff or his solo stuff like 400
de like listen like he they want them
folks was hungry they wanted to make it
they wanted to leave their mark on the
world and they did through their art but
once they kind
of it changes you know even with those
guys it was a uh it was a progression
because they all wrapped about the
streets I'm from New Orleans right they
wrapped about yeah not having from the
projects you know jumping people robbing
people Bone Thugs even w a lot about
robbing people and stuff think about
that yesterday but once they made it
that that those songs changed to bling
bling I got a million dollar mansion on
my wrist bling bling you know and it
start rapping about money so it went
from something from like the people in
that plight of living in the projects
living in the trailer parks whatever or
even people who fantasized about that
the white demographic that was rich that
fantasized about that kind of life um
but that was big and then it changed
into about rapping about this money and
people couldn't people couldn't uh
identify with that but the music was
still catchy but it changed the
motivation in and stuff you know no
limit did it you know they went from
from ghetto self-made to like wearing
suits and hats and the Gambino family
and rapping about money um and then it
went from now we have money we don't we
there's not a hunger in us to create
beautiful art we just know how to write
a good song now and uh and it's it
becomes formulaic you know you just hit
it it's just like the materialism kept
expounding and then eventually it just
once again we eating off bread alone and
that's why it feels empty and it feels
like something is missing like it
doesn't feel like a a full meal it's not
a full I don't feel like you want it bad
enough you just know how to do
it I've been I've been the biggest like
clapback to like this whole the back I
hate the bag culture the bag I'm like
the bag no it's the family the community
like the people like no I can't live in
this this materialistic world that's ran
by money and fame and clicks and Views
and Hyper visibility it's like it's so
dead and empty and void of anything real
and it's like that's all that this
culture is about right now it's like the
plastic it's like we've become cosmetic
surgery
itself that's a big one like we have a
spiritual cosmetic like we have I'm I'm
against that for some reason I think
it's because I'm just the conservative
part of me like all the cosmetic surgery
and now like the the Next Generation
even the kids like the little kids are
like yeah that's a like it's a it's a
thing like yeah you can just get your
lips bigger you can just get your nose
redone you can get for me I I I don't
know why I think it's just conservative
natural beauty is Big to me um which is
something weird because we see these
little homely like influencers start
blowing up on Instagram and it's people
that you follow and then they get their
whole stuff redone like it it's like
they they they they become plastic
because they can't make emotions anymore
they they get a smile painted on their
face maybe we've talked about this but
um
the two Christian women they were really
Paula White who used who I used to think
was an attractive woman now has a joker
smile and knows all this work done yeah
um then we look at uh Joyce Meyer she's
got a permanent smile you know she's she
looks like the Joker she's had all this
reconstructive surgery done to stay in
the spotlight stay in front of the
camera and not to age gracefully as
someone like you and myself who is hair
exning turning gray like what do you and
and you know I'm thinking like I don't
know if I should let my gr I'm getting
younger I don't know about you I rebuke
those that
Doctrine there's a big I got a bunch of
friends who believe that if if they keep
saying that they won't never
die but be before we jump into that
we'll talk about that but let's with the
look
like because I I like my aesthetic I
like my tattoos I like my jewelry I like
you know what I'm saying I'm concerned
with the outer appearance but I think
that I think that age and and aging
gracefully should be something that we
cuz if not it becomes uh super
narcissistic and we look at people in
the Christian Community the two noted
ones we have Tammy Fay Baker and Jan
Crouch and you seen what they was super
duper Ecentric these were somebody's
Grandma looking like you know I don't
know they were just they look crazy but
maybe that's okay maybe I'm maybe I'm
you know why does that concern me they
want that's how they want to look what
do you what do you think about like
aging gracefully and your grandma
looking like them and stuff like
[Laughter]
that I like what this lady said on Mad
TV it was like a parody of this like uh
girl she was in like the surgeon's
office like she was about to undergo
like some type of facial reconstructive
something and the old woman came in she
was like you already beautiful honey
like Why you wanna like what do you want
to change and she was like oh no cuz
like I could get this bigger
and and then like the young girl was
just like oh my God like what did you
guys do back in your day when like there
was no cosmetic surgery around like how
did you guys how did you guys even exist
she was like well for one God wasn't
making people as ugly then when I was
coming up which I holled and then she
said said you know when we wanted to
feel better about ourselves we went and
helped somebody we went and and and
donated food we volunteered like when we
wanted to feel good about ourselves and
so cosmetic surgery is a very
interesting thing because it's just like
I know why there's an explosion of it
and it's because like we're more of a
technological people we're more on
camera now we're more on t now uh we
living in a selfie age so people are
seeing themselves more and people are
feeling pressure to put themselves out
there to participate in social media
culture and so of course you know seeing
yourself and seeing how you look you
pick away at it you want to be as
photogenic as possible you want to be as
camera ready as possible and so I
understand and I empathize with the
pressure even as an egotistical man
myself who wears hair I dye my hair I
have piercings I have tattoos I am just
into my aesthetic but I'm also I also
live without it it's not an identity
it's literally an outfit like my
aesthetic is literally that I don't give
it any more of a value so the Cosmetic
Surgery like I mean I I'm I'm not gonna
say I'm totally against it because I I
feel like no I'm gonna say I'm totally
against it I just feel like
look like I I was going to try to be
balanced here but I'm just
like it's as I think that you said it
perfectly there is a narciss there is a
a smidget of narcissism that drives us
to Value this puppet this vehicle the
way that we do and I think that we
shouldn't perceive
that and remedy it by cosmetic surgery
but perceive it and realize you know
what I need more of the love of God and
the more the love self in my life I
don't need to go lay down on a surgeon's
table I don't I just need more Community
I just need more love I just need like
more meaningful experiences in my life I
don't this is not about my nose or my or
my buttcks or whatever um but I also do
I I can't be a hypocrite as a man who
has piercings as a man who dyes his hair
as a man who has tattoos obviously like
I am playful with my appearance I do
think that it is possible I
guess it's possible to participate in
cosmetic surgery without getting carried
away but that doesn't really happen a
lot because people go in already so
deeply egotistical that they just become
addicted to it but I I think you can be
healthy and maybe tweak some things and
still have a healthy attitude toward
self but it would be nice to just look I
wish that we lived in a culture where
there was no Beauty standard whatsoever
like I would just love people to just
look crazy like no grooming standards be
clean but you can look wild and Frizzy
and Untamed like you can look like John
the Baptist you can have berries in your
hair like it's fine like I wish that our
only standard was just hygienic but in
terms of like the beauty standards yeah
I think it does take away from our
culture and we have young girls now
coming up in a culture where they think
that where where they see they can be
deeply rewarded by their aesthetic so
they go and get all these unhealthy
surgeries they get these butt lifts and
these injections and they see that they
can make 20,000 off their Instagram page
because they can look this way and you
even have guys who know that they can
probably be you know that they can
probably exploit the community of women
more by just investing in their
aesthetic and just being sexually
attractive and you know it just feeds
into the ego self and I don't know I do
hate it you know I think that the beauty
of old age is that the physical aging is
supposed to be indicative of the inner
maturity and the inner expansion and
we're supposed to be becoming less
materialistic which is why the physical
is starting to degrade and fall away and
meeting that honestly and dealing with
your issues with aging and just
realizing that you know you are just
that there's a materialism that's there
that's causing you to not just Embrace
what's natural you know and at the end
of the day it's really not what you see
that makes you important or amazing it's
what we don't see it's all of the
attributes of your personality and your
character and just being a contributor
to society that we really should if do
if we could live out what Dr King said
will we measure men and women by the
Merit of the
Cara and not by race not by sexuality
not by gender not
by Beauty man everybody would have a
change in that culture and that is the
culture that we need to move toward
because everybody has a shot everybody
has a shot at being accepted and being
loved because when we create these
beauty standards it literally it it's
it's it's isolating somebody on the back
end and it's putting somebody on the
pedestal on the front end somebody's
being left behind whenever we whenever
we socialize people that way
so it's an interesting issue but I would
have to go for a non Beauty stand the
world if I could have it my way just
yeah and if yeah the Instagram Instagram
is is crazy and like I said you know
being in front of the camera all the
time and I mean hell when I talk about
Tammy Fay Baker and and uh Jan Crouch
they were in front of the camera always
seeing themselves and nitpicking like
you said things that they they can
change or whatever and uh same with uh
Paula White and Joyce Meyer you I think
for me I just even feel like even for
them it's I feel like the the Christian
conservative should would be something
that's like you know they're not really
into that and then you find out like
like you know someone I feel like um
what's her name um Joyce Meer would be
like the last person to do that because
you there's like a a piety there is this
meekness and I don't really care the way
I look I'm going to age and this body's
falling apart and it's like no I I be
damned if
I okay so so that we talking about the
look okay and then you said that I'm I'm
I'm getting younger by the day that
thing so I have friends who are into
this Doctrine which I kind of think is I
kind of think it's um that it's um
dangerous a little bit in my in my
understanding uh that that they're going
to live forever in this body that um
that God that Christ came them well they
think they're going to be like Enoch
actually and uh and not have to taste
death and that these are forever and
these meat suits or whatever are going
to continue as long as they believe it
and but the reason I don't I don't and
it's a Christian idea that they're it's
coming into Christianity the mystical
Christians are teaching this like and
it's big we know again I told you I'm
already I fear dying I don't want to die
so it sounds like a good Doctrine yeah
let's believe it but I don't think that
believing it will make it true I feel
like it it CS everybody a failure besid
besides you cuz it's like you're going
to do something your grandmother died
she failed your great-grandmother your
uncle like you all these people died and
even preachers like amazing preachers RI
Zacharias it it it's just notion that
their faith wasn't at the level that
that could maintain their body here on
the physical plane and I I don't think
there's we Ravi Zachariah who just
recently passed away from cancer I don't
think there was there was there's many
you know people understood the word and
had a love and
that dude operating at a high level and
died from cancer so that insinuates even
without saying that he didn't have faith
this is in a Word of Faith movement this
is in a lot of other things like if
you're poor or whatever your faith
doesn't doesn't rise to the occasion so
with the uh Eternal um what they they
have a name for it or whatever but I
don't know I just feel like it's kind of
weird like kind of a little dangerous
just CU you insinuate without saying it
that you're you're going to do something
different than the Patriarchs of the
faith or you don't have to die or
whatever I think it's escapism
honestly yeah well I mean
I I think it's both I think that there's
a reality and uh in understanding that
your core beliefs can literally slow
down the
um of the growth of yourself
that the core beliefs you hold in your
subconscious
self
um they do create the way that your cell
respond to your health which is why uh
prayer and meditation and positive
affirmation kind of can be
scientifically scientifically measured
in terms of its impact and influence
Upon Our mental health and our
physiological
Health but you do get those people who
are like egoic about it and they're like
only wanting to like be different and
they're only wanting to like be the
exception to the rule and that's I don't
pay attention to those people because
like those people always hijack and
co-opt every movement like they doing it
for all the wrong reasons are you okay
over
there
huh I'm sorry are you okay over there
yeah I'm hear something I hear something
outside like some drums outside my
window it's kind of weird
maybe you need to look you might have a
a drum circle a drone of Angel beating
through got a lot I got hey I got I be
having all kind of stuff going outside
the window male lady pulls up starts
beeping the
horn that's funny my God maybe I think
it's somebody in the house with a drum
set speaking of that you want to go
check it out no I'm good I'm good uh I
guess you got to check on me because
like I don't know if You' seen that
footage I just seen it Ron Paul had a
stroke on camera he was on a zoom
meeting and he's in mid conversation and
had a stroke yeah that's the some
interesting footage Ron Paul was just uh
no I it looked like he he he had a
malfunction like a computer malfunction
yeah he was in mid conversation is he
okay I think so I think he's in he's
stable condition or whatever I think
he's better but this was just like a
week or two ago and they had it on like
they were live streaming or whatever and
he's a mid sentence and he starts
stumbling over his words and then he
just like PA starts staring it's pretty
scary actually but
wow man I am so yeah I am so like
nervous about that stuff like strokes
and heart attacks like my uncle
literally my my oldest Uncle he died on
the car porch at my grandmother's house
he was just out there like like he
normally is every day and we came out to
go to our cars and he was just wide eyed
in the dead like he had a um a massive
heart attack and it just came like there
was no sound no no room to fight just
that's the biggest thing that's the
biggest fear I have of death is you
don't know when it's coming you know you
want to dive an old age holding your
wife's hand and I love you and I'll see
you on the other side like it you
literally like step outside hey I'm
going to go check the mail or I'm going
to go to McDonald's and pick up some
something something to eat and you don't
come back like you know what I'm saying
you're like cut off that's why like I
think mindfulness for me in death is
like to always try my best to be in a
moment you know and and be you know uh
make those memories
or cuz once you die you know you don't
want it to be like um I'm glad he's dead
or whatever the case is or he was he was
he was he was nothing to begin with that
way I know right um he was nothing you
know like uh cuz you don't get to plan
it I mean I feel like we should I feel
like in our heads we get to plan it I
don't know why I feel that way but we
don't like literally like you gonna get
a call that you lost who like we you
know how we talked about like uh losing
those friends like the friends are only
going to ride with you so long and then
they got to get off and then you
mentioned you know like at some point
list everybody got to get off at some
everybody got either they go before you
after you or at the same time like that
could be part of that that cult that uh
uh Heaven's Gate cult the UFO C where
they all drank uh the Kool-Aid or
whatever but they were wearing the
Adidas tracksuits or whatever and they
all killed themselves together maybe dud
was so scar scared of
dying yeah I I can I can I can see that
like being so scared of dying that you
want other people to die with you at the
same
time hey bro I'm scared will you do it
with me bro like yeah I can see that
yeah yeah because it's the only
experience that you know for sure you're
G to be completely alone in so yeah yeah
and there are some people who are
terrified of that I remember um well
first I'm not really scared of dying I'm
more so just like hope like I'm more so
concerned about how I'm going to die
like I don't want be painful yeah I I
don't want to do nothing I just want to
go to sleep man I just want to go sleep
you know but see that even is kind of
freaky to me like to transition into the
spirit world from a dream state must be
very bizarre like to not even to just
kind of Slide Away
into that I feel and not have no you
know like you just don't wake up like so
what what what happens if you die in a
dream state like you just I had a fear
of dying while I was high you know used
to smoke I'm you know I want to die high
like I had a fear of dying while I was
high like getting really high on on weed
and like not knowing that you're dead or
I could have did something with my life
you know what I'm saying whatever the
case is like I had I just had this weird
fear that I was going to die when I got
high and I was like I didn't want to die
when I wanted to be my right mind you
know what I'm saying but I think as a
teenager when I was smoking weed every
day I felt like that was my right mind
or
something yeah I feel the same I'm like
God take me when I'm not in the middle
of sex take me when I'm not in the
middle of sinning take me when I'm like
you know I want to go I want to go when
I'm the H like take me when I'm like the
happiest yeah like I like sometimes when
I just like bust out and I'm laughing
hysterically I'm like this could be the
perfect time right now to die like God
if you're gonna take me take me right
now like I would love to die this bolted
up on vibration like take me in my
happiest most crazy out of this world
joyful moment like that would be the
ideal way for me to go I would just if
if I if I could have it my way I would
just love to die in my happiest happiest
happiest State I don't want to die in my
sleep I don't want to die in no crazy
situations accident and your vehicle is
literally shrunk in around you in your
car see that's why like why no no no I
don't want to like even like drowning
drowning or dying in a house fire like
you're just like like have you seen the
footage from the September 11th like
this watching like the jump people jump
out yeah they jump out you start hearing
them they start they start hitting the
uh awnings and stuff yeah I was like
they thought they had a
chance you think
so they definitely didn't have a chance
inside what about the dude what about
the call what about the call where the
dude calls 911 he's like and he's all
Stern hey we can't get out of here we
need help he's on the phone with
somebody and they got it snc with the
time and you hear a rumble he's on the
phone with him he's like I can't see
it's dark in here we need help send
somebody he's being real like mean about
it and all of a sudden you hear a
rumble and the the tower Falls with him
in it he's on the phone with the uh
paramedics and stuff while he's on the
while the tower Falls yeah that's pretty
creepy you hear it Crush
like yeah just scary happy Halloween you
know but you know what's so funny yeah
right this is a perfect show I feel like
I'm so extra I feel like my my my soul
put that in the contract before I
incarnated like like I'm sitting here
saying I don't want to go out in a in a
blaze of glory but that's probably
exactly what I wrote in my contract like
I want to go out in the craziest most
extra type of way like that I could go
out like send me out with bang I you
know what these weird fears I have
another fear I don't want nobody who
ain't I don't want just no regular if if
you get killed like in a stupid way or
like have some somebody murder you who
like wasn't nobody like if somebody
murdered you wouldn't you want it to be
like a like a somebody of of like
renowned or something versus like some
random dude who was nothing his whole
life end
up you know some failure like
yeah who killed him hey just a random
homeless dude like he was in line at
Walmart and got stabbed by a random
homeless guy oh damn really that's crazy
crazy way to go like you want it to have
meaning and purpose you know right I
wna what about like I have this other
weird stigma of like um uh
disintegrating like you know like if you
see if you see road kill that some like
a if a uh a deer got hit by 18 wheeler
there's no there's like it just pretty
much descend there's
nothing the memory of your body is gone
there's no remains for the family to
collect you're you're just for some
reason that idea it seems worse than
you're dead anyway really but for some
reason it feels worse than the family
maybe for the family maybe my heart's
with the family I don't know that's no I
think no no no no no like I think that
what you just spoke to is I think that
that's why a lot of people don't like
the thought of
of being cremated because I think that
we we have like a like our bodies are
personal to us and thinking like we
don't even we can't even imagine like
just it in Ruins or like it just like we
have such a body Consciousness and a
connection to the body that it just
makes us uncomfortable to think about
like disintegration or just like being
burnt up and singed to death like
nothing left no remains like it's almost
like a total um it's like getting your
record expunged like if my body is just
destroyed like the life experience is
just completely it never happened it
never happened it never happened like
everything is a
memory but it but but it freaks me out
too how much we're so connected to the
body that we have funerals I'm like this
is actually weird like I don't want to
like why am I looking at this we like
this person is dead and bombed and
dressed up and stiff and cold and
why are we spending thousands of dollars
for this experience and why like it just
feels so awkward that we I just take a a
corpse this seriously like this throw me
out back like if I die just throw me out
back I'm fine um cataly star seed says
what if you don't feel your physical
death but the dead people can't tell you
LOL almost like uh the six sense like
dude didn't know he was dead they know
they were dead I uh you know sometimes
your mind wanders and I'm like man am I
did I die seven years ago and I'm just
like here with my family thinking
everything's normal like those weird you
know what I'm saying Lucid yeah like you
could already be dead and not know it
like you could be living out this
experience and you already done passed
over seamlessly like you have no there
no lot of demarcation like you just woke
up and just went on with because I imag
like hold on I forgot what the hell I
was G to say
you something came to my mind that I was
thinking
gez but what I will say is like but well
also like the thing about being murdered
like could you imagine and being dying
in such a brutal way that like like the
density is so heavy that you like become
Earthbound like that's how traumatizing
it was to be killed and now your soul is
lodged into the Earth plane because of
the trauma of your death that like maybe
that's why hauntings happen and people
haunt grounds because like that energy
was so thick at the time that you you
know took your last breath that it just
kind of like fossilized you into that
plane maybe until judgment or whatever
the case may be like and it's just weird
that people die in such horrific ways
like that is no way to enter into the
spirit world it's just like being
stabbed and ripped open and it's just
it's nuts yeah I mean the the for for me
the reason why I like the Paranormal I
think is because of the fear of death
because for me paranormal is proof of
the afterlife like Paranormal is
something that remind that lets me know
that something exists from the other
side and think about this what if even
all every paranormal story what if that
was made up what if we really have no
proof because when you look for physical
proof you have stories and I thought I
saw and it looked like I've got some
weird ass stories this why I'm here here
doing this um it's something but but
like even like you wanted to see that it
was in your head you will it to happen
because you're scared of dying and there
really is no afterlife like that's the
biggest fear right to to die and and and
you're just you know you're obsolete you
know you don't even exist you step into
Oblivion and you really are erased and
um you're not conscious of anything um
that's fear um you know what what if
that's true and and and the scary thing
about that for me is what makes me
question a little bit talked about this
a lot uh the Mind Alzheimer's
dementia yeah your family members they
lose it they don't remember you they
don't remember themselves they don't
remember what they just said that's
scary you know and so the hard thing for
me to connect is the other side of
dementia when you die do you just pop
back in oh man
wow I didn't know who I was for seven
years I was just sitting in my own feces
and didn't know my family but I remember
you guys now like for me it's hard for
me to wrap wrap my head around your
Consciousness just comes back to you
yeah you know what I'm saying like I
think it does though but like what's
even more freaky about the way that
Consciousness interacts with the body is
like there's been stories of people
who've been in comas for like 10 15
years and they were Wide Awake the whole
time and they just could not use the
body to communicate they heard every
conversation they saw mom every Tuesday
and Thursday like and they was just
there like how do you how do you H why
why like just why why why why I would
never want to be a Sitting Duck like
that that is crazy the the song by
Metallica One you know that song one is
one of their most popular songs but if
you watch the music video it's about a
guy in war who stepped on a landmine and
uh he doesn't have any arms or legs and
he's like in a coma he can't even talk
but you hear him thinking to himself
he's like God kill me God take me I'm
landmine is taking my sight taking my
speech taking my hearing taking my arms
taking my legs and he's just there and
he can sense what's going on but he
can't interact and communicate so he's
like in a prison you know in his mind
you know what I'm saying it's really
deep thought but it's very similar to
what you just said but you know what
else I thought about that is terrifying
like people who have been like in who
have suffered traumatic brain injury due
to maybe like a motorcycle accident or a
car accident and and I'm like how do you
experience your Consciousness when one
moment you're like go from Clear
Consciousness and now your brain got you
autistic and gy like how like do you
even know like how do you even like it's
just weird I'm just like how does that
work it's a shift in consciousness
and I think a lack of oxygen hell I was
talking about this this scary too like I
ain't trying to talk you out of
afterlife but you know we got these
questions it's it's healthy to ask these
questions that's how you prove what you
know that you know that you know because
I can't talk you out of it and if I can
good but then you talk yourself back
into it um they were talking about so so
David Blaine did an interview with Joe
Rogan but he said something on there he
was talking about how he he's been on
the brink of death a lot like he stays
up for for days on in and um
uh loses oxygen and stays underwater he
says like once you go underwater and you
feel like you're about to die on your
body is you know like shaking and stuff
like you could still go like for a lot
longer like a few more minutes you could
stay underwater like once you get past
that fear stage and your body reacting
like that long as you keep calm you can
stay alive for a lot longer but he says
that like um the body not having proper
oxygen um produces these weird
hallucinations like LSD or mushrooms or
iwaska or something that when you
deprive the brain of oxygen that it
sends you into this beautiful Blissful
like what they described
as uh near-death
experiencers I seen Jesus and my
grandmother was there and like if you
deprive the body of oxygen on the brink
of death that the brain produces this
chemical and let you it releases DMT and
your this DMT that's released through
the brain allows you to see the light
and to step into it like what if all the
near-death experiences were like a
result of the body producing the DMT
when they were almost going to die or
drowning or got ran over by a train I
interview these people yeah like what if
well the thing about it is like I
completely scra that notion ex because
that notion couldn't explain like the
ESP that was demonstrated in their death
experiences and it couldn't explain like
because a Hallucination is not the same
as a cognitive experience a
Hallucination is a very discombobulated
disjointed um chaotic you know
perception but these near death
experiences are the are far from chaotic
like they're so fluid they're theme
oriented people people also have access
to full faculty smell sound sight touch
sensation and then you bring in the ESP
part where people can recall like
conversations happening around them on
the surgery table they can recall that
there's a shoe on top of the roof of the
hospital when they floated through the
ceiling they went to visit mom across
town they could tell her what she was
doing at the time that you know your
body was laid out in the middle of the
highway from this accident like and so
I've seen like a lot of Left Brain
scientists who do not want to accept
metaphysics they've tried their best to
try to describe near-death experiences
in this very
like it's all a physical process but it
like it doesn't work with all of the
components of the near-death
experience
however I think like a lot of a lot of
our greatest fear is just like losing
our Consciousness like like that's the
biggest fear about death is like not
have like not being conscious is
terrifying like I don't want to just
like not exist like I would love to I
just can't imagine not I just can't I
can't imagine not being aware but you
know what if not being aware is a
substitute for going to hell I'll take
not being aware just take me out
completely
like experience I've seen a post this
morning that um people were saying that
this some you know Christians who
believe in hell and stuff they were
saying that um Oblivion would be like
Mercy for the people that are going to
hell you know what I'm saying you not to
exist but I kind of I kind of feel the
other way about your statement though
because of the fear of not existing you
know there's a lot of Christians a lot
of more uh Jehovah's Witness and Mormons
who believe that you step into um
Oblivion that you just don't exist like
you die you're dead and so for the
Christian it is sleeplessness
you the Christian you you receive
everlasting life you get to step into
life on the other side and so for me
it's like I would rather burn in hell
than to not exist because at least I am
aware I'm aware of a pretty bad
situation right now but I'm still aware
versus not existing because I think that
the fear of not existing for me and that
fear of death is stronger than at least
this is some sort of existence I guess I
don't know oh no so you telling me that
you would want to be like wide eyed in H
instead of just being like not there not
exist I think so man but if you ask me
when I'm there when you ask me but if
you ask me when I'm there then I would
say just take
me are you are you a secret state of
masochist there's no way no no no I
don't want to go to hell no I do not
like being tormented or nothing but I'm
saying the fear of not existing that you
just that fear is so
so let me paint like the perfect analogy
would you
rather not be put under for surgery and
be wide awake for the surgery because
that is what it would be like to go to
hell is to be wide awake for the surgery
or would you rather be put under
anesthesia wake up I no I'd rather be
put under for sure okay yeah what if
what like so you would not no that's not
the same thing because I would rather I
would let you uh I let you do surgery on
me without anesthesia then you you get
deleted and you just don't exist anymore
you can do you can do
surgery because that's only
temporal but I do believe I do believe
if there is a hell right if there is the
a place that you pass through I believe
that even that could be a place of uh CU
I I don't believe in help but if there
is that it could be a place that you
pass through that purifies you or or
penalizes you to pay for the things you
did on Earth to learn to get sorted out
in the afterlife did I did you hear me
talk about that weird dream I had about
my uncle no uh he was a you know as a
kid you look up to him but then as you
grow you like hold on this dude is
pretty dark man he's molesting children
he's doing drugs with you he's liver
shot he's acting out of his own pain and
own hurt or whatever um but he did a lot
of bad things U so he died and uh um I
had a dream just this dream um and it
was probably a seven months ago maybe a
little bit longer and uh I talked about
it on here and I was kind of in tears
because I had a dream that he came home
and it was very very lucid and it was
him look just like him that's him so I
had this dream that he comes home and he
tells us he's been in prison for 15
years I've been in prison I'm making
some changes everybody get out of my
house y'all are staying here you ain't
supposed to be living in here get out of
my house the only person who could stay
is Derek everybody leave so he kicked my
sister my brother kicked everybody who
was living in his house while he was in
prison out so he comes home from prison
and I know it's him and he's trying to
get his life together and it just hits
me like he's been dead for 15 years and
in my mind it was a clear I was in
prison 15 years so my mind was like I
just toing with the idea that maybe he
was in
purgatory in this place of holding for
years or needs to get needs help
crossing over and I'm the only spiritual
one in the family who was even open or
willing to do something like this and so
he comes to me in a dream I'm not saying
that this happened don't unfollow me yet
I'm saying that I'm open to it could
have I don't know I've seen movies I've
heard about this kind of stuff but I
talked to a lady she was on a podcast I
teared up talking about it because it
was just so real like a Purgatory he did
15 years because of the sins that he
committed and then he was released to
step into Bliss you know
interesting yeah no what you are talking
about very well could be the case I know
that um um and certain there are certain
metaphysicians who practice something
called Soul retrieval and that and it's
exactly what you're talking about where
they go into the spirit world the astral
plane and they retrieve like the parts
of people that are still like condemned
and shame written or like cuz some
people believe that
like you can have a
compartmentalized Liberation like your
soul can be fragmented and in like
displaced so there are parts of you that
like Ascend and then there are parts of
you that like remain back and there are
people who um practice helping to
retrieve and reconnecting
back Caroline coming to the light like
you parts of you are there parts of you
are not there so just ushering in the
rest of those parts um a movie a dope
dope like sci-fi drama that was that
painted this in such a sickening way
like I literally wish that this level of
um Psychotherapy existed because I would
totally go to school my whole life get
into all type of debt just to be able to
be this type of a therapist have do you
remember the movie called the sale with
Jennifer Lopez yeah a little bit Yeah
came out back in like 1999 what movie is
but I I never really watched it but I
knew it has some weird scenes in it for
sure you need to watch that movie True
see girl like tonight date night between
you and wifey is the sale myter watch it
y'all is it too uh if she's not too how
old is she she's 16
oh yeah she can watch it like this is
this is a dope yeah
like I mean it's it's extra but it talks
about what we're talking about like
she's basically a she's using this
technology that allows her to go into
the consciousness of a man who's in a
coma and he's holding secrets that the
FBI needs so they send Jennifer Lopez in
who is using this experimental
technology to go in and retrieve the
information that the FBI needs and when
she goes in there she experiences like
his light body which is represented to
her as a child as his childhood self and
then she's experiencing like this
demonic
mutated traumatized like um Wicked
idealistic self which is like this like
demonic dude it's it's epic like the
visuals are epic the concept itself is
epic and I'm like this could literally
take americ
psychology to the next level like if we
produced see this is man is supposed to
be producing useful technology like this
I mean people who are struggling with
schizophrenia people who are struggling
with mental illness if this type of
Technology really existed like train
people could go in and realigned people
from the inside out all I
believe Elon Musk you know again the
whole fear of dementia he's will he's
working on he has technology
now what's it called the neurolink that
they could put a neurolink behind your
ear a little chip in your brain that can
reverse Grandma's dementia fix her it
can bring Grandma back from the
dead what CU that's not your grandma
anymore she don't know you she don't
know who she is she her body's there but
that's not her they have the technology
now to bring to to stop dementia to to
fix like to help the body like uh heal
faster all type when you hear when you
hear the what he says that neurolink can
do like sign me up like our technology
can help
us you trying to play God okay Grandma
needs to die it's her time to die let
her die she was meant God wanted her to
have dementia you know what I'm saying
versus like hold on if you she took care
of herself you know what I'm saying I'm
with it I know it sounds scary but
that's where we're headed we're headed
there where we can use technology to ve
us to you know I'm say isue go ahead my
issue with people who believe that is
how can you say that when Jesus's lit
like his literal Ministry was about
healing first like if you had any type
of physical mental malady he healed that
first then you joined the club like
there was no handicap folk in his
ministry there was no like people in
wheelchairs moving around Jerusalem with
Christ like first and foremost you
restored man to his to to his original
idealistic vital self and then he
follows you like so this whole idea that
you know God like honestly people don't
want to hear this probably going to step
on some toes but people who have like
kind of romanticized illness like oh you
know we're meant to have it it's it's
it's unfortunately the side effect of
living in a culture and being a part of
religious and spiritual systems that
can't produce results and so we've now
had to make excus
for though for that lack of result by
saying oh God is using AIDS or using
cancer or you know it's it was a part of
the the soul con like no like we have
lost our mysticism and our power this
knowledge is fading we don't know how to
do this and we won't be honest and say I
know this stuff can be done I want to do
this stuff but I have no idea what the
science of bringing somebody's sight
back is what the science of bringing
somebody's hearing back is what the
science of uh speaking Wellness into uh
a a a poorly vibrating cell is to
restore limbs like and I it makes me
cringe that the church now considers
itself a hospital because all it
actually has now is
patience all it has it's it's it's
patience yeah you're not supposed to be
a hospital boo I don't know if you heard
um um I think it was the the interview I
did with Cal but I talked a little bit
about um like coming to this
understanding of Testament of Solomon
and how Solomon like
understood CU he talked with the demons
and he commanded them to tell him
because he had Authority um but he
understood what demons are were tied to
certain elements like the demon that
gets on you in the middle of the night
sexually is the incubus or the succubus
there was a certain name for a demon
that uh made you blind a certain name
for a demon that made you death and they
and they told you I come to men and make
them deaf I make them dumb I make them
throw themselves in the fire I'm a
suicidal spirit and they had names and
it told them the the planetary alignment
that they aligned up with which was the
Zodiac and and the angel that bound them
and it says if you call upon this angel
in this month then I will be bound
because they have complete authority
over me and so like in The Testament of
Solomon he gives you these this formula
my mind I never did it but as I'm
reading it I'm in the churches where
there's a dude walking around like an L
because his back is bent over hunched
over sideways and you have compassion
they've laid hands on the guy many times
there's people that with cerebal paly
they've laid hands on them nothing
happens they've seen some kind of
Miracles they believing and they want
Miracles but they don't really uh you
know work so my mind you know gets to
wonder and like maybe that's some of the
Forgotten stuff that Jesus knew which
which demon was associated with being
deaf which demon was associated with
being blind and he was able to rebuke
and take authority maybe with the
assistance of the
Angel you know because when they were
talking about casting out demons and
healing
people um he mentioned Solomon and
Solomon knew this wisdom you know so my
mind thinks like do you at least try it
you know what I'm saying like
have you thought of any of
that yeah can I I want to speak to that
and you're gonna slap me because I need
another when Nature Calls 60c break
maybe you can just talk to the while I
run to the rro room all right all right
I'm gonna read somebody's comments
because we have some really cool people
in the comments but go ahead um okay
yeah so I'll be right back you're good
um I see Ally um in the comments saying
um what is she saying that she's walking
around books a million is it books a
million listening to this podcast and
she says that almost the whole staff is
following around her listening to the
podcast because it was so interesting
the stuff that we were talking
on that's
awesome spread the love share the wealth
um yeah man like you know we talk about
the thing things like the things that
you don't really talk about a lot you
know death is something that uh I think
we should be comfortable be be more
comfortable you know cuz acting like if
you don't talk about it then it ain't
going to happen see that's the whole
thing that as long as we don't address
it or we it's an elephant in the room
that we don't address then it won't
happen so death is one of those those
big things or sickness or why do you
have sick people in your church well if
we don't talk about it then it won't be
get brought up you know so we're going
to talk about
it so what was your response to that I'm
back so I just want to be clear I don't
have a bladder a weak bladder okay I'm
just gorging down water because I'm
sitting in front of bright lights that
are dehydrating me
so Nature has to call from time to time
but what's interesting about that is I
think that this is what makes Christ
such a superb Mystic because I think
that one of the things that are very
distinctive about Christ is I
think like let's be honest Christ as a
prophet knew that the mystery schools
would vanish he knew that the knowledge
would not be there in the way that maybe
it did at certain periods in
history so I I believe that what Christ
did because the scripture say that
Christ grew in stature so it means that
he was a learned man even though he was
God
and I think he went into the mystery
schools I think he leared all the
technicalities and then I think he
brought back to us kind of the most
condensed simplistic
version of of of it so
that we could substitute from a lack of
like a whole lot of detailed information
and kind of just bring it into a some
total like what are the essential points
here faith and the actualization of the
God within and I think that the
difference between maybe Solomon and
Christ is that Christ could heal people
purely from a high vibrational
St that Christ that you you can
understand the hierarchy of demons and
mind you too uh demons has has been kind
of mistranslated I know like in the
western religion It's associated with
something negative but demon also was
just a general word as well used to just
a disembodied entities and that can make
up a vast amount of spirits in general
ranging from negative to positive
spirits but I think that a cultist can
use like angels and demons and wild
Spirits I mean as a as a a Christian
Mystic or a Christian witch I
mean I I understand Sciences of
utilizing like certain principalities
even though I personally do not use
certain forces because I just ain't
trying to chance it and risk it like
that but I I think
that I think that love is is a nuclear
force I think this once again it's it's
a pionic energy and I think that you can
VI if you're willing to like
self-actualize love in the fullest
capacity and you walk around in that
aligned state of being it means that
people who are not in a aligned state of
being have no choice but to be aligned
in your align state of being and this
explains why Christ could be a catalyst
for so many people who came into contact
with him he also was such a deeply
devout
Mystic because he also was substituting
for a lot of people's Faith like he knew
he would encounter people who only had a
mustard seed of
Faith but him as a devout Mystic so
devout so
self-actualized he could use that muster
seed of faith and align it with his
perception of you because I don't think
that Christ ever saw
I think when he saw blind people he saw
them in full health when he saw deaf
people he saw them in full health when
he saw like he didn't even acknowledge
discrepancy and injury and malady into
his inner sight he didn't even take it
in and identify with it he was but see I
think that those are the disciplines he
learned in the mystery schools how to
sit in such a vibrational State and
whole division of your inner eye in a
way that is so strong and so con
consistent that you could deny the
actuality of what you were even looking
at and transmuted based upon the way you
looked at it but a lot of us as Mystics
a lot of us as spiritual people a lot of
us in the in the religious community
don't have that level of discipline
which is why there were whole school
systems like the mystics that we're
talking about going back to the
disciples these people and students gave
up their lives they W able to have a job
and a family like these people committed
their days and their hours to learning
how to be the strong in this discipline
and how to uh uh amplify their psychic
uh perception like as in the rest of the
world we don't necessarily have that
luxury we have jobs we have bills we
have families we have children we got
things we got to do nobody has time to
be fasting for 40 days and 40 nights
like nobody has time to be going off to
the side of the mountain for three weeks
nobody has time to do that so I
understand both worlds but I think that
the most mass of Mystics would be the
mystics like Christ who don't need all
the Nuance of spiritual hierarchy it
just comes down to self-actualizing that
image of God that we are in our core and
walking in the entirety of that and if
you come into contact with people while
you're in that high vibrational state
who
believe that you can heal them who
believe because their
faith is what blue them in to your
healing ability which is why faith is
always necessary in healing even when
Christ went to Bethlehem the scriptures
say that he could do no great works
because the people did not believe you
have to on some level or another
acknowledge and Bluetooth yourself in to
what what it is you believe I can do for
you and then in return your faith will
reward you and then it's your faith that
makes you whole not me but the capacity
of your faith is what allows for that to
be so I try to skip I mean I live in a
culture where there's libraries right so
I mean I get to learn about the demons
and the angels and how to utilize these
Powers the scriptures also say that man
is to have command over the Angels you
don't find a lot of Christians who even
utilize um Angels which they have full
authority to and I utilize angels to
retrieve money I've used angels to
retrieve healing I've used angels to
send psychic messages to people when my
partner was in prison we communicated
when he was in he would be in a hole we
communicated through the Angelic
Community I would literally send him
psychic messages through calling upon
Angels he would then find a way to call
me because he intuitively picked up that
I needed to speak to him he would say I
heard you in my head or I dreamed about
you doing a nap or I had this feeling
that compelled me to like call you
before the day was out and we was
constantly using those Messengers to
send messages
but I also don't want to rely so much
upon the usage of spirits I want to just
learn how
to walk in that force of love in that
image of God and then allow that to heal
people accordingly because I think it's
just e it's easier on one end but it's
probably the most difficult too which is
why a lot of occultists rely on a lot of
the spirits to compensate maybe where
they Faith can't take them maybe where
their personal discipline can't take
them it's easier to call upon a familiar
or a low or to perform some ritual and
kind of ride the coat tail of another
deity or some entity but you can bypass
all of that middle ground and really get
to the ability itself and heal other
people from within but you have to
really fully self-actualize that
especially if you're healing some pretty
serious things like disease STDs cancers
or even regenerating the body I mean
Christ completely reformed a man's ear
out of dirt out of the same dirt that
man was created from he resculpted a
soldier's ear and breathed life into it
he completely healed a man's sight but
also utilizing that same dirt and resul
that a man's eyes on his face and gave
him
sight you know but that also was due to
that high vibratory state that Christ
prioritized by separating himself often
going and fasting going and separating
himself so he could perceive the Inner
Man and have a potency in his inner
being that he could walk around with and
I believe that when he got weakened when
he could feel himself losing that
because maybe the people were pulling on
him too much or his own ego was trying
to regenerate itself and reconstruct
itself he would go back into the
Wilderness desensitize the ego
re-calibrate it and then reemerge again
and continue to give
himself to the people in a full away
yeah does that answer the question yeah
yeah yeah I'm with you um but I think
the Journey of how he got there you know
obviously um we talk about the mystery
school and him going in Egypt and
learning and and all of that stuff so um
you know who knows plant medicine you
know what I'm saying
um I don't think medicine uh I don't
think that was his first time doing a
lot of that stuff you know um May
there's so there's so much that we don't
have you know but I think it it helps to
understand the day right it understands
the day to understand that these people
had a school of
prophets they had a school a university
that taught you how to interact with the
supernatural a school of prophets where
people like they were in on it they knew
it they KN understood music and
vibration and healing and chanting like
they understood all of that that's been
forgotten so we got to look to the
mystery schools that we got to look to
you know I think every religion has a
piece of that you know what I'm saying
that they do really well so we look at
you know some forms of Hinduism and
chanting and mantras and um sigils and
all of this stuff that's even like an
African culture that's been forgotten
that is didn't make it a little bit of
it did make it to Christianity Blind
Faith made it to Christianity praise and
worship and music to an extent made it
to Christianity laying on of hands gloss
alelia speaking in tongues made it to
Christianity like a lot communion and
symbolism made it to Christianity
there's a lot of things that didn't make
it that were lost and so the beauty is
to like ReDiscover those things that
they had
to you know teach Christ you know and
and he understood that you had to take
those things into the silence you had to
take those things in the part for a time
and that was big and it still is it
still is to cultivate that power like
you're saying to kind of get realigned
or
recalibrated you know um yeah like we
need all of our doctors like we need
other Root Doctors and the medicine men
who know how the herbs of the world are
created and how interact with the cells
within our body as it relates to the
mucus that produces sick of cell or
produces AIDS or produces tumors like we
have so many metaphysical Specialists
but yeah like um Dr sebbi is a prime
example he proved to the Supreme Court
that he could cure AIDS and and and
factually cured 67 people and they
wanted to kill this man and imprison
this man he had to flee back to Haiti to
escape the American government who
wanted to penalize him and wanted to
also silence him and he's also a part of
the long course of holistic doctors who
ended up dead mysteriously within a year
and a half's worth of time like 24 of
them just died back to back to back to
back to back to back to back to back to
back to
back yep crazy so you know all of these
people make up you know whether it's the
witches whether it's the healers whether
it's they represent the entire body of
Christ like we have people who are
specializing in different areas of
holistic health and of healing and and
of the miraculous and if we could just
expand our repertoire expand
our expand our um
um the word is slipping away from me but
just to expand like our index and just
be a lot more versatile like I believe
that like Christ when Christ spent on
the dirt smeared it around put it across
the man's face that was just Christ
demonstrating that there's a multitude
of ways to achieve the same thing um
there's lots of ways to heal aside from
laying your hands on somebody there's
lots of ways to heal somebody aside from
Simply praying that the realm of the
metaphysics is very diverse and he
exemplified that by some of the ways he
remedied certain issues um even when the
disciples came AC
cross the demon-possessed man and he
said um some spirits come out by prayer
but some come out by prayer and fasting
but the way the reason why he was able
to
discern that that part of the formula
was needed is because he went through
this teaching he was schooled on all of
this inside and out he had a vast he had
access to a vast system but I also think
that Christ did the work of taking all
that all that knowledge in and obviously
because he's
God um refining all of that to a single
point because he knew that communities
would learn of learn of this power but
didn't have access to Mystery Schools
but yet still wanted to be able to gift
them with with being able to manifest
these things so we can do this without
the mystery schools but um there's also
no excuse why Mystery Schools shouldn't
exist
there's no reason why there should not
be mystery schools to be inducted into
there is no reason why we should yeah
you have to be you have to be taught by
people and we're taught through example
and so somebody who is is poor or a
beggar can't teach you what it means to
be rich it might can teach you how to be
content but they can't tell you how to
get wealth and uh speak the Kings and
all this kind of St you know what I'm
saying be or or like pay your rent you
know what I'm saying like they can maybe
living off of a mirac from Miracle to
Miracle to Miracle to Miracle but um you
got to be walking in what you can what
you can release and what you can teach
and so if you're not walking in those
Miracles or those signs and wonders
which the Bible says that these signs
shall follow them that believe like that
was a stipulation that you were going to
be a miracle worker you were going to be
able to set people free through your
conversation yeah that was confirmation
yeah yeah so because because of the
spirit that was activated within you and
and you and you have to cultivate that
you know you have to go you know to the
Wilderness you have to go into the the
prayer closet and so that never left so
man we've done uh 4 hours and 15 minutes
we probably just beat my last longest
episode oh man it's been that long oh
yeah we started at 11 my God yeah hey
Cal I beat your record I know you
thought you had it and so y'all gonna go
together and do a podcast and it's going
to be gotta
bro gotcha
huh I meant to do that yeah I think he
wants to do a podcast with you or just
talk anyway y'all should hook up for
sure oh yeah for sure like I'm because
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it
KY and davan need this well Cy hit me up
yep tra I always enjoy this man this was
a long overdue like you need to have me
back regularly I think I'm one of your
dopest guests and we're aren't we lined
up to do something on yours your uh well
we were but you didn't resed because we
supposed to do it last week because you
had some things come
up let's redo it yeah yeah I was
launching that course and I had so much
going on and I needed to put some time
in on it so I'm I'm good though uh let
me know when you want to do it we'll set
it up go on your
show I mean I'm working around you man
like my schedule is completely open so
like yeah like you just tell me when
where and we can definitely get it done
the people have been asking about you on
my platform too like people really
enjoyed our episode on my platform as
well and I was this was a joy like I
really enjoyed you and um I'm happy that
you had me we talk about a little bit of
everything see the thing see I tell you
one of my we talking about our fears
fear of dying fear of death one of my
fears is that like a lot of times when I
interview people I I exhaust what I want
to talk like my questions but honestly
it is a fear because obviously we sit
down and talk and we go for days we went
four hours right in my head I'm like
damn but I asked you everything I can
think about that's interesting but I
think that one you know topic or one
question like opens up so many more
doors and more questions as long as I
would do it because I get hit by a lot
of people yeah I get hit by a lot of
people they say Hey man can I come back
on your show and I'm like and we just
had a talk I a I don't even know what
we' talk about you know so but I just
got to do it because I've did some of
those shows that go back toback with
different the same person and they end
up being good anyway so I I enjoyed this
talk to say the least so we'll do it
again I was kind of hoping that we was
gonna be able to touch on but but maybe
we can save it for our episode like
touch on the alien thing CU I want to
explore some of those theories around
who these people are and what they doing
so you be ready for that conversation on
on conscious TV I'm bringing it I'm
bringing it all right step out of the
fear step into love and acceptance your
Gods your creator gods are there at the
door that's right I'm here for it man
for sure all right brother we'll do it
again man thanks so much for hanging out
enjoyed it I love you thank you so much
love you brother peace and Shalom
later conscious TV AKA davana gustus
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for a 4H hour ride and we talked about a
little bit of it all like I felt the
spirit you know I felt some I felt some
uh uh you know animosity you know what
I'm saying I felt a little bit of
everything so just like we're mentioned
in those horror movies or those shows or
whatever that that bring out your
emotions like that's the whole thing I
like that movie get out by Jordan Peele
like I went on a roller coaster ride of
emotions I'm laughing I'm crying I'm
socially awkward like there is a comedic
relief when it gets real a lot of
tension like those are the best bringing
that stuff so again with a podcast like
this we talk about so much stuff it's
like listen I want you to laugh I want
you to get mad at me I want you to smile
I want you to cry listen you know people
cry listening to this podcast I was
holding back tears today while I'm
talking I was holding back tears but you
know what I enjoyed it man I hope y'all
did too with that I'm going say peace
and Shalom we'll do it again peace peace
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