In this episode of The TruthSeekah Podcast TruthSeekah is joined by Corn Grillo as they discuss her new book The Angel Experiment.
Corin Grillo is a licensed psychotherapist, author, speaker, healer, teacher, and founder of the Angel Alchemy Academy.
A mind-blowing miracle from the angels saved her life, cured her of life-long depression, and awakened her spiritual gifts.
She now teaches others all over the world how to awaken their spiritual gifts, heal their lives, and discover their true purpose by working with angels and the Divine.
She teaches by bridging others with direct mystical experiences, excessive amounts of laughter, down to earth spiritual wisdom, ritual, and powerful energy medicine that awakens the heart, mind, and soul.
Miracles are real. You are not alone. There is no such thing as coincidence.
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Corin Grillo | The Angel Experiment YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddkCj4VW6xo Transcript source: YouTube captions truth-seeker and/or its affiliates are not responsible for any strange phenomena that may occur during or after listening to this podcast which may include the following heightened senses of awareness psychic abilities UFO sightings alien contact time loss out-of-body experiences ringing in the ear CSP lucid dreaming increasing chronicity astral protection telepathy stronger intuition levitation miraculous healings and on remote viewing please be advised to listen indecision these faintest and when I don't be you're locked into the to succumb to the paranormal esoteric and all things spiritual yo what is up ladies and gentlemen I'm your host true seeker this is the true seeker podcast excited delighted to be with you guys again today for another amazing episode again we cover all things spiritual today we're gonna be talking about working with angels we're gonna be getting into that I just released my book spirit realm angels demons spirits in the sovereignty of God and I don't really deep into the subject of angels and demons and all of that kind of stuff but uh today my guests is gonna go in a little bit deeper and and offer another perspective her book is launched today and it's released and we're gonna be talking about the angel experiment working with your your angels it's gonna be good make sure you guys stay tuned before we do that I'm gonna say a huge thank you to everyone supporting my work via patreon all of the enablers this is a listeners supported show the show doesn't exist without your help so again thank you guys from the bottom of my heart for everybody who believes in my work the vision that God has given me and has partnered with me financially in this endeavor and I'm gonna give a thank you to some of the latest patrons within the last week or so by name shout-out to Sean Thank You Sean for coming on and Smith's Thank You 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I'm speaking with my friend Corrine Grillo Corrine welcome to the podcast how are you thank you so much it's so great to be here heck yeah good to have you yeah so you're in the hotel right now right yes I am I didn't know it was that bad you guys are dealing with some fires and stuff over there and here in California things are a little crazy you know it's fires are popping up there's there's winds here and our electric companies just just decided to shut us down a big wind is coming and you almost have no no warning and so are our electricity shut down like three days so here I am there there were right in between the the electricity is about to get turned turned off again but my Wi-Fi is down now so it's like it's just it's been interesting then they interesting so you trying to launch a book but you have no power I am trying to launch a book communicate with my communities and give them great fakes of crops and I just it's been really challenging but so I'm in a hotel now and I just you know I started lighting up my boards with love and gratitude last night there's like finally I guys got some Wi-Fi but the Wi-Fi here is really bad you paid extra for the premium but it's like dial-up you don't know it feels really yeah so I want to get into your book it's an amazing book I love the subject matter and what you're bringing to the table I have some questions about it but first for people who don't know who you are let's just kind of give like a background of who you are what you bring to the table okay well you know I am my I'm Corinne and I just professionally I do traditionally I'm a licensed psychotherapist a trained psychotherapist that essentially had this really big miracle this angel experience happened that really woke me up it woke up my spiritual gifts and and and I'm telling you just it changed my life radically and slowly but surely over the years Spirit and Angels have guided me to start teaching these principles teaching and talking about angels out loud to to everyone everyone that will listen essentially but it was a real process like it wasn't that sounded kind of graceful it was not freaking graceful at all I struggled and I had angel shame the whole time you know especially as a psychotherapist here really gonna talk about angels right now it's weird but yeah I had to because they were coming into the room with us and like lighting it up and doing some healing work on my clients you know when people are suffering so much and they're crying for years because of what you know whatever trauma that they had and and when the angels would come in and I would start working with them energetically and their their disease or their depression would dissolve it's like okay I got to keep talking about this stuff I'm not gonna hide it anymore yeah that's amazing Wow just yeah and it's funny we talk about that just really openly nonchalantly like you said just talking about it in passing but it was hard to get there right like what were some of the obstacles that you had to overcome like of just knowing how crazy it sounds like outside of the norm and then like embracing it and bodying in and just bringing it to the table yeah no I you know it was I tell you I was like the least likely person to be talking about this stuff but you know I was up against maybe feeling like I was gonna be judged ridiculed by my family by also my colleagues right you know psychotherapists we have a really specific training on what magical thinking is and what what that's indicative up so I knew if I was going to talk about the miracle that happened there there you know it's like maybe there she needs to get a check get hospitalized perhaps a little seroquel a little you know combat [Â __Â ] down kind of thing and so I really it it slowly went from my my sweet little secret and you know I don't know if I mention I don't think I mentioned this but for the very first few decades of my life I suffered with deep depression I wanted to mostly to die that was like my exclusive prayer her ears and and so because I had this radical change you know after the miracle I started being in contact with angels they started healing my heart my mind my life and also started healing other people you know and and so yeah you know you have a choice to make you're either gonna own the truth and and just stand in it or you're gonna run and luckily I did not run and people did actually ridicule and have some judgment okay wait you're you're you know you're a trained professional and you're doing what you're talking about what now and angels like yeah I'm talking about angels because the [Â __Â ] works it's wonderful and and and you know what's so funny now is like those people who were super judgy several years ago are now coming to me going okay I'm with it a hundred percent now I've been on that journey you've been on that journey and I think a lot of the listeners or on that journey right now and they're trying to navigate through that stuff like what do they keep to themselves what did they share openly you know my family's gonna judge me will I get fired if I talk about this kind of stuff openly you know so uh yeah so I think I think I think us being open and honest about it really helps people oh it really does and I didn't I didn't really know the gravity of what I was doing were kind of the threshold that I I didn't realize how important that threshold was when I started claiming it inside of my one-on-one practice too and saying okay there's angels here do you want to hear it you want to hear this angel message you know it's really awkward in the beginning but people do mean need to just work in AI by believing I don't know what's your belief is but that there is an awakening happening and people are coming to life and cracking open and not knowing what to do about it your senses or awakening and they're spilling energy and all of a sudden they can't stand being around certain people that they used to really like you don't know what the what that is so yeah it's so important even with angel shame I still have a little angel shame to be honest it's like okay I'm still talking about angels but it's like you know coming out of the spiritual closet is so important for for us all so that we can find each other we can find each other and find like-minded communities and I love that you you know you have an ongoing community where you can talk about this stuff without hiding yeah well yeah so that's one of the things that we kind of hide behind and it's kind of like a little like a badge of honor or whatever it's like you know I'm saying nobody understands me I'm the only one going through this and we kind of okay it's just me I'm going crazy but it's a no we're taking that excuse away because there's so many people who are experiencing very similar things you know and they're just being open and honest about it and and in doing that we're helping so many people I mean you know the reason I started talking about my experiences is because I was having the same experiences with a bunch of friends but they were too afraid to talk about it because they know that they would you know be looked at as weird or their wife you know I have a friend whose wife as a teacher and he can't let anything get out because it's gonna mess up her career and stuff like that and like Soph felt like you know I'm saying the need to talk about it just because other people weren't talking about it but I've seen almost as a forerunner in my community because I kind of bridge the gap between spirituality and religion of coming out of you don't send a dogmatic rules and regulations touch not taste not sex of Christianity and people are having and awakening across the globe and it is no respecter of persons or religion you know people are in Christianity and angels are contacting them spirits are appearing to them but they don't look like what we've been told that they look like these beautiful men sometimes sometimes they show up as a ghastly figure or a ghost or a mist or something like that and really to explore that stuff and break it down I'm seeing breakthrough in my life and the lives of people in our community as well oh absolutely yeah you know and I'm just saying here to just say like and I just just want to validate what you're saying from what I've been seeing in my camp right that there are people thousands of people all over the world in every corner of the world that are having these experiences sometimes spontaneously like I did and not knowing not having anybody in their local community to do this way right and so like I built I also build spiritual communities online and and it's just been so wonderful to see these people make these powerful bonds and become friends for life and start traveling to other countries with each other it's like this global freaking amazing movement of truth seekers right as opposed to the people that are still just looking at the books right it's crazy it's it's so crazy just to be able to meet these people even online that are in person that we've been building with online when we do our events and stuff like that and it's amazing you know it is it's crazy people are traveling from all over that's when I knew that I was onto something I did an album release which I've always done an album release concert but I did one for like one of my latest big albums and people people drove like from all over like it was like an eighth like the average was like an eight-hour drive to get to where I was for this concert and then you know we had people locally support but it was like all these people from all over I had no idea and like they came from all over the country and I'm like oh wow this podcast and this information is is helping it's it's you helping people you know yeah right connecting and people want to meet that's exactly what happened to me when I had my father you know I started doing this international work but it was mostly online and when I finally had my first event I couldn't believe what happened actually last year here's what happened I found this place in Peru and in Bali and it was like this really kismet way that I found this property right and I was like oh it's Peru I don't know if anybody's gonna want to come to Peru and I'm telling you like people flew from Australia Europe from everywhere and we had like 25 people come and join us in Peru rocking some plant medicine with the shaman in the Sacred Valley and these are angel people right but it's like it's they don't it doesn't matter what you're talking about it's just the spiritual pull to gather is like a group and family and and celebrate each other because often these people are so alone in their communities and in their family and we're walking around and I you know I felt alone in the beginning so it's so such a blessing to see so many people like coming together now yeah that's awesome so I want to talk about that experience as well but let's talk about the first miracle that happened that really kind of pushed you over the edge and showed like kind of kind of showed you how the ant angels were communicating with you that first encounter that you had that you talked about yes okay so yeah that was a that really happened during a very intensely low-low time in my life on the outside I looked like I had my [Â __Â ] together you know I was a psychotherapist helping kids helping kids on the streets gangbangers and helping people you know come back try and get them off the streets essentially as a therapist and and and even though that was happening and I had a kid and a husband and a house and the whole formula of what's supposed to make you happy I was deep suffering I was drinking about a fifth of tequila every two days I was on antidepressants I was taking adderall to kind of pick me up so I could get through the frickin day because I was rocking like 12 hour days back then and and I it was I was just burning the candle at both ends and a friend of mine bought my spot me an angel an angel reading and I didn't know you know it's like okay it speaks for itself an angel reading but it you know at best I'm thinking oh cool a psychic and you know whatever oh and so so I I traveled to go see the woman she you know and she started doing it she starts drop it she started talking about [Â __Â ] and I was like look I don't want to talk like I made a commitment I'm not talking about this the first thing out of her mouth was the angels are saying that dad had it out I'm like damn it so that validated okay there's something real legit about this person and then she'd start doing this energy work and I could feel the I could feel something happening in my body and so by the end I felt like a whole different person almost like I felt this lift of this heaviness that was on me you don't even know how toxic you are until you have it lifted off of you and you're like okay I can like function a little bit so yeah I was like when I left that session she said talk to me angels as if they're real like they're right there with you and I was like all right I'll do that and so I did that and all these synchronicity started happening like you turn on the radio and like a song about an angel Wow I know you know right so it started going on and it was popping off like all day long good morning tonight I was just like hey angels what about this what about that and so one day I was working it was like the day three of all of this like wow this stuff is probably real and as I was driving down the hood and this bird drops down from the sky and landed right in front of my car and so I was really taken aback because I was like in this bliss cloud for three days and then all of sudden here's his bird Carnot's dropping on the ground so I Drive around it and the birds still alive but the wing was broken and the other wing was trying to push itself up but it couldn't so I did what I probably for the first time ever I prayed for another being and I asked the angels to take this bird out of its suffering because I didn't want to get out of the car because I was like you know single woman in the hood not a good idea and I was also going to be late to a client's house so anyways I drove around and I looked in the rearview mirror and I saw the body of this bird start kind of shimmering or shimmying on the ground and as I watched a tiny bird hopped up from the body of that bird and flew away and then another bird hopped up from that bird and flew away and then a third bird that was a little smaller a little wobbly ER hopped up from that big bird and flew away and there was nothing left on the ground so I of course got out of the damn car right because like who cares I'm gonna be late happened and there was nothing left I checked there was no bird left so right before my eyes I saw this bird transform into three birds and fly away and that was the moments where all this madness started where I just couldn't deny the truth of that and it really sent me on this journey trying to understand what happened to me and and I didn't tell people about that miracle girl who we've already talked about why I might not because I didn't feel like being hospitalized but it was really the the healing that happened for and for me in my life after that moment that really proved to me that I wasn't just hallucinating now we're one go ahead pepper once I wasn't just a little yeah yeah right yeah once you start seeing because I think that's a I think people need proof right they're like hold on let me test this stuff you know am I just hearing voices but then when you start acting on them it kind of builds your faith once you step out of the box and say let me just deliver this message and see what happens and they do it and then the person breaks down then the tears or the person has an ailment in their body and you just ask if there's any pain in that area can you pray for them or pull it off of them while however your your your verbage goes and you see people respond to that in a beautiful way then I hold on there's something to this and now I can continue to facilitate it and tap into it right yes I mean you can't you just can't it would be an extreme disservice like if you imagine my position as a psychotherapist we're doing talk therapy okay let's just talk about your problem and we're gonna give you some or give you some great insight and you might feel a little better but you're not going to necessarily be healed and when I started bringing the Angels in and spirited and really using this divine connection to help eradicate that which is not true which is the lie which is that is a use which is whatever and and bring bring out like this business gooey delicious essence that we have I mean I started seeing radical things happening in my practice my practice all of a sudden was like crazy full right I was in a in a a Wellness Center where most people were struggling for a business and all of a sudden people were flying you know literally flying in people from other states like their moms you got to come see this therapist she's not a therapist but yeah I mean it's just like it's been wonderful and now working internationally and seeing how angels you know I was a little concerned like are you gonna work as well if I'm not in the room with people can is this energy work is this work I've been talking to someone in Atlanta where I were on a group call and I'm talking to a hundred people or a thousand but they kept on guiding me to keep going you know just you don't worry we got it we got it and it's been amazing because just the healing and the miracles that continue to happen since that first day it's just like it was a crazy wave of Awesome yeah that that was a big thing for me too it's like I love being in a room with people and I can put my hands on someone to be able to pull and move energy and pray and share blessings and stuff like that but stepping into that next phase was like okay this person is on the other side of the world or in another state and we're just having a zoom call or Skype session and I remember a friend of mine it was actually Kelly Coffey from Kelly in the raw and she was like encouraging me to step out and my consultations and my sessions and stuff she's like I got some pain in my neck let's just see if you can if you can you know say move the energy and I was like okay so we did it you know over over video chat she's like oh my god oh my god and she was like really I moved to tears like it worked it really worked it just kind of encouraged me to step out and try it and then I just started expecting it like in phone calls with people like they'll be on the other side of the world and they're like man I got this stuff going on with my legs and the nerve endings and I can't really move my legs and we'll pray and send a blessing to them and over the phone I begin to tremble and and start crying and feel that energy wherever they are so there's no such thing as space and time now is the this is the only moment that we have and we're all connected to be able to step into those situations like that and knowing it man there's so much power just simply in that but it's about testing and having like following those so that now it's not a theory it's like a deep-rooted knowing that you have when you step into that right right that's the science of it right it's like you just prove it out you just try some weird [Â __Â ] and you just prove it out and and it freakin works and it keeps working oh god I love hearing that about that's what happened to you that's exactly what happened for me it's like okay you feel this urge you're just gonna try and I would actually say to my clients hey you want to try some weird [Â __Â ] and they'd be like sure let's try it you know so I kind of try that that approach as well and you know I don't know if I mentioned this but you know I now teach I mostly I don't do a lot of one-on-one anymore I now teach other people how to do this how to work with angels and how to heal oh and that's like created all this other extra global movement of Awesome right because now my students and my students students and my students students students are having are creating miracles with spirit and you're I think the beautiful thing is about that is like knowing like the law of compensation and in the ripple effect like you're sharing in that benefit of bringing light to the earth Bicas like each one reach one and then together will change the world so you you know speaking into that person working with that person and then they raise up seventeen people under them or one person that reaches seventeen Peter it's almost like an MLM like a spiritual MLM that works right and you share the benefits of that like the Karma you know you reap what you've sown and like it's so beautiful just to sit back and think about all the lives that are affected because you answered the call right and you could sit in that in your meditations and even when you're feeling depressed and it tries to come back to hold on I know what I'm doing and it's working I've got the messages to prove it you know it just really sit in that it's so beautiful man yeah oh thank you yeah it's really freaking amazing I had no idea like I said earlier I didn't know the threshold that I was crossing I didn't know the the magnitude of where I was headed just by saying yes to the simple thing like I'm gonna say something about angels in my session one day I'm just kidding I'm gonna own it you know and it's just one thing after another and I just you know I love that you are promoting and and talking to your communities about the importance of them stepping into their power to and and claiming and owning what they know because if you don't do it who will like if not you or me or whoever's listening who else is going to do it and this planet needs us it needs really fun party tricks of awesome and miracles in magic and truth and however it comes and we're all so unique we're all so unique our reaction is so unique and so so yeah wow I just I don't know what you're doing if that's what it's about so how did it start happening for you like when you started working with the Angels did you see them walk into the room do you get just downloads of inspiration and words of wisdom then it's just translated how does it work for you like you know I'm saying inside like what do you see or what do you feel when you when you're in session yeah okay so in the beginning it was a lot of physical manifestations not actually angel appearances but I told you like synchronicities and like they'd start all this weird stuff would happen right manifesting in the real world but in sessions what would happen I'm not like one of those people I'm like walking through the grocery store and I see angels hovering all over everybody like you know it's like I'm on the clock and then I'm off the clock kind of thing but when I'm on the clock and someone's sitting with me what would start happening is I just would feel like this oh I guess it's like electrical like angel angel bumps like you feel this like inspiration and then for me it was like the room would swell with light and so I would kind of see it but mostly just feel like this incredible presence of peace and then I would go okay there's angels here and here's and so I didn't know at the time I didn't know if I could actually invoke them right I wasn't officially invoking back then I was just waiting for them to come and then it's okay we got some angel stuff to do so then from there and then when I'm doing my session sometimes I will see lights in my intuitive eyes but I'm mostly an impact clear sentient or a clear so I just know things and and I can feel them so I could start feeling other people's pain and and things like that and then then I would know okay that's not my pain that's their pain and then we validate it but yeah so mostly that how about you how does it come through for you a little bit of all of it you know it's it's uh yeah it's uh real similar you know and there's uh and I'm still just diving deeper into it you know I I'm in this weird place I don't like like I have names and stuff of angels that have come to me and I tell you the weird thing and I've talked about this a little bit for me and I've done this on my private sessions where people is like we'll go in together we'll tap into the spirit and uh and I'll start like once I get really deep there's a there's a tongue that rises up almost like you know saying glossolalia with the Bible called speaking in tongues it'll come forth but there'll be phrases and things that I'll repeat and I'll just like okay this is this is something that's sticking I'll write it down and then go try to translate it online and it's usually a message I think I need to get to the point where I'm able to like translate the message without going to Google but it's so strange that it plays out a message like I want to meet with you but first burn candles you know it says these weird messages like you know I'm saying I I I desire a day that we meet together that is sanctified aside oh this is crazy there'll be a name and I've had it in my own life and I mean that's one way were the Angels speak and show up in but definitely through synchronicity by being on the right path like yesterday for me I don't know if it's the angels or just spirit God letting that letting me know that I'm on the right path like yesterday I put out a video about Kanye West and it's all about the spirit of narcissism and how it's all like about me and taking him selfies and just how just how he represents our our culture being narcissistic really and and and how it's shaping our brain is stuff like that so I did a I did a video about narcissism being defeated and we're watching a movie a television show yesterday and well first my wife asked me what what I'm saying what is narcissism she didn't know what it was I had to kind of break it down a little bit and then we're watching the movie and the song in the background is playing we're just chillin watches moving and it's a song by Marilyn Manson that came on why these people are in the car and he's singing about narcissism and it's like hold on like I just put this video you asked me about narcissism and this character on this show is listening to a song about narcissism it's crazy just to see how like everything's connected for me it's like okay that video is gonna move forth it's gonna touch people it's gonna help people you did the right thing and just like because it gets weird it gets really weird and you start seeing it everything in conversations and people now I expect it now I just I look forward everywhere and I'm connecting these dots and it's very strange at first but I mean that's just one way like you said you know I'm saying Clara audience Clara sentience feeling knowing knowing some things about people being able to feel it in your body that's a big one whether it's a spiritually discerned or it's physically in your body like you your heart will start hurting around somebody or you'll feel a crink in your neck out of the blue like all of these weird things and it's just like being able to step out and faith and say hey you got it something going on with your neck yeah I was in an accident and I was at the doctor yesterday about my neck I'd say can we pray can we can we you do you want to be healed I believe we can heal that and and see a miracle happen you know what I'm saying and it's like wow let me could let me keep this up let me continue to move forward because it's building my faith and connecting those dots and so that's what it's been for me this is a journey in and around all of it you know yes absolutely I mean it's like the most magical journey of all and for me it's like I can't even believe what my life is right now because it was so stark opposite so dark so dark before the encounter with the angels and and what's so wonderful it's like wow it's like a magical playground now literally and to be able to open other people up to the fact that life can be a magical playground too and actually seeing it happen for them is freaking amazing yeah it is amazing um yeah just stepping into that I want to get into the book but first I'm just trying to build this framework about these angels first and how they interact and I know they're interacting in all these ways we just talked about both of us right many people listening they they may have one or two different ways but we're connecting dots for people now what about the sacred plants ceremony were you able to encounter those same angels in a different capacity that they show up differently was it other angels or entities that came to say hello and and send forth healing how was that experience yeah you know well for me I've been I've been bonded with plant medicines for over ten years so I have been doing plant medicines like ayahuasca San Pedro watch Yuma which is the same thing and mushrooms and you know I I am definitely someone who is interested in the other worlds if you will so but why I do these medicines is not necessarily to just encounter beings but to heal my heart yeah all of them are just incredible heart medicines and so I ever though I've been supposed to be going to Peru for the last two years I've had a trip and had to cancel that it uh I finally got there and what got me there was just bringing twenty five people with me it's like okay I'm on the hook I gotta go but wow this journey I have to tell you about this journey because I feel like it's pertinent to all of us right now it wasn't I mean I definitely saw beings saw beings there's there's this a sacred mountain and when you are have the right kind of formulas and and the right kind of vision you can see beings all over just that mountain it's such a trip so and and so I just want to say that yes there were beings but the contact I made mostly was with Pachamama mother earth and and the power the great power and support that she has for us and you know when you're right in the heart of the sacred Valley where the medicine is actually from okay watching my his from Andrew with Incan Incan shaman who were speaking the original language it was like amplified like crazy okay and so I went on this crazy journey of of essentially let's call it a six-hour purge I was puking and crying for six hours straight and it sounds like torture and hell but it was so important so after I got through my own personal purging Pachamama showed me that now it's time for me to start puking and crying on behalf of the planet and B behalf of the people and what she showed me it's like you know I don't know if you you know did this suck this summer super suck free it was a really hard did you have some really intense stuff I just know a lot of people that went through a lot of tense stuff this year period it was like a lot of changing and a lot of fear and a lot of her what do I do and what do I really connect with what do I really you know all of that stuff so she was she then started having me purged on behalf of the collective and she showed me that right now what we're seeing you know with the with politics and the presidency how does a collective purge even Kanye would be a really yeah coming to God like look I'll lay it down I'm coming back to my roots you know right so it's like the earth is giving us our buckets full of puke so we can see it so we can heal it so we can be healed on the on the deeper level so of course after that day I felt like a whole I was reborn did you take that with you though like that no I'm saying empathy and that's groaning that the earth is groaning for its its children the earth is hurting for the way it's children are have gone astray and are abusing it themselves in and there's an ancient call part of this awakening we're talking my global awakened is an ancient call to return to the earth to put your feet on the earth to return back to the plant medicines like the plant medicines like the the earth is has provided things for us to heal ourselves but we're looking for other ways were coming looking up when when the solution and the medicine is right here right now and we were given this beautiful freakin gift to hear I just uh I just read a comment it was a local pastor here who said he was like getting on two other pastors and other Christians who started out teaching about Jesus but he said now you're teaching about CBD and all of these other ways he's like Jesus is the only healing and is the only thing you need and like like as far as like looking for a divine miracle when we've been given like the things in front of us is like here's the medicine take it no I want to be I'm not I'm not gonna do it I know people who have went to the grave who some would say too early because they would not use any medicine because they were just all gel were just stuck on faith and that God would heal me guess what he took he called you home you know whether it's using wisdom or anything like that but there's this weird religious attitude with CBD or any of the plant medicines I did a chapter in my book about my experience with with uh psilocybin mushrooms and how it just changed my life on two occasions and you know and I have a decent Christian audience and they're like some of them are like no no but it is there's an awakening happening it's like I would be doing you a disservice not to mention it or try to hide it or whatever but the met it just plant medicines it's a medicine it's put here for a reason to help us and to heal us obviously if you abuse any medicine if you go get robitussin or Tylenol and you take too much and you abuse it it's gonna harm your body you're gonna start hallucinating and seeing stuff but even with like micro dosing psilocybin and things like that just the medical studies and research that are being done right now it's phenomenal and if you don't know about if you don't know about it oh gosh I know I'm a huge advocate for also micro dosing as well again psychotherapist right and so I you know and I have microdose to try it as well and I've turned people on to it and it's so life-changing and it's insane for for anyone - at least in entertain these medicines because spirit gave them to us for a reason but I have to tell you okay so during Peru two Mormon couple came okay they live in Salt Lake City like they're illegitimate and it was their first experience shamanic experience right and they're you know they still participate in our angel community and stuff like that but they never had a shamanic experience and let me just say they they left Peru feeling a little differently and as a matter of fact I was just talking to the man he's now taking ten Mormons to sacred Valley to go he's like look there's it's just too good not fun people need to know people that's what you know that's what he's saying people need to know and that was the most powerful experience of his life yeah so now what about this so you know you did not like it something you do daily you don't wake up and take it daily I mean some people would with with micro dosing and but some people would say and I've kind of like I think before I really don't even through podcast and through other people it was calling out to me but before I dove in there was a fear of their because I used to do drugs and used to like entertain demonic lower-level entities right coming from a bad background like yourself right so I was scared to really give my mind or my emotions over to another entity that might trick me and say haha got you for eight hours your mind right so there was a fear there and I just that in the book but I prided myself on being able to reach those aesthetic levels of intoxication on spirit on God without the use of any anything externally like whether it's through Kundalini Yoga through breath work through just deep levels of prayer meditation fasting like these things in our body like we're fearfully and wonderfully made and we can tap into those states right and I say yeah I could do that just by a certain breathing exercises but there's some truth to that but it's it's something totally different right it's a whole nother experience to even pretend that we can like facilitate something like that without the use of those plant teachers right yeah I love that yes yeah I mean like the miracle that happened to me in spirit and angels all of that super cool but there's nothing there's no comparison it's like a whole difference in some thing its own thing of who we are so where's its work because we're part of it it was part of that too just like we're part of the you know the the angel angelic realm and all of that but yeah and I love that you called it a teacher and I think that that's really important for people to understand is that these are not it's not like drugs and like Nancy Reagan it you'd have to really understand and experience it but the the deep compassion coming from these plants and the deep profound teaching I envy the way that ayahuasca teaches I just like whoa how does she do she I mean these plant medicines are so I just can't I just there's I love them as much as I love angels that's all I'm gonna say and everybody knows how much I love angels but they don't [Â __Â ] around they will show you yeah you have to deal with this this stuff that you've been suppressing you know this and so I think we're in a community of people and because of the growing interest in it it just lets you know where the worlds at it's like people are wanting to deal with their stuff like they're wanting to find healing they're wanting to get to the root of it so the plant medicines will help you to do that so for anybody who has like a bad experience with that it's because they're not willing to face the stuff that that they've been suppressing and it's going to make you do you know make you do that but we're in a community of people who are like yeah show me the bad things about myself I want to be a better person I want to bring forth healing to the nation's I want to whatever is blocking me I want it out the way let me deal with it head-on through the grace and power of God to really do that and it's changing people's lives yeah it's it really is and again I just also want to stress the difference between because I you know I used to do a lot of drugs in my early 20s and they were I was doing drugs okay and the one of the distinctions is that when we do the plant medicine we enter into sacred space and often you know because I also take some people on journeys as well you have someone there who's holding the sacred space for you as well who's there guiding you it's not like you're just you know going to Jane's Addiction concert or whatever yeah yeah I mean set in setting is it's totally important I mean we had an encounter like with a bunch of brothers who went in and had this beautiful experience that changed my life and I'm doing what I'm doing today because of that and that was in 2015 2014 2015 and but we hadn't but one of the friends went the following weekend I said that was awesome I want to do it again it takes some other friends at a party where they were listening to all kind of crazy metal rock music they were in a suburban like I'm saying neighborhood and they had the front door wide open so it's like you know and it was just and he was just panicking he locked himself in the bathroom and freaked out for four hours because of the music he was able to feel the intention set and setting his key he was wanting me to do it with him come with us we're gonna do it I was like dude it may take me four months to unpack all of this information that was given to me there's no way I'm just gonna let you know just jump right back into it cuz because I'm setting myself up for failure I think if I do that so I really gave myself over to the process and the things that were shown to me to really unpack and how God and was gonna help me bring this stuff about in the things I needed to get rid of in the connections that I needed to make and it is a so life-changing man that's so beautiful I I hear ya I hear I don't think I'd be doing it could be be I I really have to do I do plant medicine about three times a year and I go into ceremony and I take time out of time no devices no no no and that's where it's like I have my vision quest for what is to come and what I'm doing connect with spirit you know we gettin ready for another one myself I can feel it I know it in this car oh hey yes oh yeah but it's good though I'm not forcing it hey did you call him me you got something to show me I'm willing to listen and you know I can identify obstacles in my life you know I know and really I'll just tell you this I mean cuz you mentioned this in another episode that you did you talk about the poverty mindset and the poverty mentality and that's something that I know that I even though I've kind of gained ground there but I'm I need I need to be taught I need to I need to have it revealed and show to me because they even though I've taken so many steps and so many strides there's still this fear of moving into the next levels of where my my colleagues are and people are trying to bring me with them and I want to go but it's like I don't know if I'm worthy or whatever I can identify it so I know and I'm getting ready to host one so if any you guys are listening who would like to come with me I'm gonna do it it's gonna be a men's only thing and uh women hit up Corrine so I love that to have you on one as well but I'm getting ready myself and I can identify it and say you know I need some help in this area and I can do all the research and that kind of comes with it to the research and knowing that I'm worthy and knowing what money is and stuff like that but uh I can identify it but yeah but if you will just talk about that for a moment the poverty mentality yeah I mean what would you would you like for me to talk about specifically just like how we're worthy for you know you know that worker is a worthy of their wages and what they bring to the table and you know all that kind of stuff but people have this this disassociation when it comes to money and that they don't deserve it in things like that you know right well I feel like even beyond not deserving it you know I was something I'd like to talk to suspense pyrrha chill people heart-centered people people with admission is that you need to stop stop not feeling worthy because there are people out there that need you and people like us need economic power so we could turn the tide and so we have these old beliefs because for a lot of reasons our religion snack is that's a big one our culture smacks us down and you're not holy and you're not close to God unless unless you're you know you've relinquished all of your materials material wealth and believe it or not what I've found over the years is that we do have these unconscious beliefs that we inherited from the religions from our families and even though our mind says yes I want to make money the more you do spiritual work the more a part of you resists it because we have not cleared the deeper part of us that feels like in order to truly love God we have to let that [Â __Â ] go we have to let money go so that's one repair work that's really major for a lot of a lot of us I had to do a lot of that work myself I've never been money focused but when I start stepped up and I owns the fact that look in order for me to have the impact I'd like to have in the world it's gonna come with some cash because I need to fund my dreams and no one else it's gonna fund my dream for me exactly we've always heard it said that if God has given you the vision he will also give you the provision to see it through as well yeah but some people are sitting there like hanging back waiting for provisions to come but they don't realize it's your secret action that creates the wealth and your willingness to move through the walls of terror that comes with the responsibility of earning cash so there's I just had to do the next layer of this work for myself because of what this book and and you know I've kind of let myself gotten bigger than I ever thought was possible but I know there's more and so I to night ceremony with ayahuasca and she just like smacked me around she's like what are you doing quit running from fame quit running from this stuff and she showed me the reason why I at this level was still resisting full-blown awesome awesome awesome crazy awesome was because I was afraid that I would lose my children my time would be taken so far up that I would lose my connection with my children she said you don't have to lose connection with your children what you can do is just say no to the things you don't want to do instead so what do you feel like it is for you I think it's uh I don't know I just I just know I know my community and I kind of know their financial situations you know and I don't want to leave them behind or set a bar that's like unattainable for them you know what I'm saying that that's a big part of it because like we've just what we've created but I know that like stepping into that next area like again we're raising up healers we're raising up shamans we're raising up preachers like we're sending them forth we're encouraging them and money is part of it like you had you there's no way around it again just just living from miracle to miracle and God I can't pay this bill how you gonna pay it up it's paid right and that happens right but I don't think that we're supposed to live from miracle to miracle it becomes a way of life and win there's there's like responsibilities and things like that and bills and really things that that have to be paid paid for and so for me I think part of it is like that and like even when I started doing private sessions I had to get over there was a lot of people's like all you're charging for prayer or you're charging to have let people talk to you and it was only a little bit of money but some of the packages and stuff that I've been working on with some friends they're just like encouraging me and they're like man this is your best stuff you you can't just give it to the birds this is like something that you know it's it's everything so I really want to help people and take them to the next level I know that all of the work that I've done is about that that the spiritual practice and getting to the next level for people but to really I guess take those people under your wing and like okay we're doing it we're not good that's not dairy this is not just what helps I'm gonna help you do it right and just to reach that next level and there's a fear of like you know if who won't come or people fear rejection as well like it's still come even though we've dealt with it it still tries to come back and as testing and stuff like that I have to tell you the truth every time I launch a program I am sure it's going to fail still still and it could be the same program that I've done you know like my angel alchemy Academy that's a six month intuitive healing training and every year I go through this deep depression of how they're all gonna hate me and no one's ever going to do it and you know the thing is every year it gets bigger and bigger it's been successful there's all this social proof but it's still your dragons don't go away it's just up to you whether or not you're gonna move move pasta the gargoyles or not and and say I hear you but I'm not listening to you and you keep going so for you I see the struggle there with the with the finances I mentor a lot of business owners spiritual business owners kind of because it's so important for you to to know that you're already offering so many levels of beautiful beauty likes which is great and so this little creme de la creme thing totally needs to happen and give birth to that because I find you know and if people are going to talk [Â __Â ] whether you're charging $3 or $3,000 okay I used to get that a lot nice to feel guilty like God like and now it's like you're right God's work is free angels are free to everyone fine my time is not free yeah yeah yep 100% yeah there's no way just to respond to all the messages and really give the people I try and I try it like even like when people ask me a question even with the Contin the Kanye thing was like hey what do you think about the Kanye weathers write a comments like you know what let me do a video and just let everybody know right because there was a lot of different people asking this oh if I was just to kind of you message those peoples let me do a video and know that I thought of you when I did the video right this this conversation so yeah those next levels man but I could see it and I know it's there and it's about how to how to get there and walk in it and then once I get there there'll be another level and there'll be another level this is part of it you know but being out being able to identify it versus just being lost in confusion and not really knowing where you are where to go I know where to go but it's just about getting there right that's where I am enough about me let's talk about this book because I believe that the book is something that maybe even be able to help me to get there or other people to get there because it's a would you call it a devotional is that is that a good word for the book or no I like that name for a book I like that name for the book yeah that's not the word that I would use but it's because I don't really have a strong religious back so I it's it's it's a rich wall it's an invocation it's a daily a daily routine a daily ritual I guess right no it really yeah it's it's a it's a very straightforward simple step-by-step method to open up the field of the angels and to to kind of align yourself with their power and open up communication with them so it teaches two simple ways to really open a month we do indications and and each day was channeled you know each day was kind of set for you know the next one the next one next one and it was originally a program that I did I released it internationally and lots of people took it and lots of people had incredible experiences so the angels inspired me to really turn it into book form even though I resisted like I resist everything else but sure saw me I mean I'm saying why is that important as far as like you know dealing with angels to help us discover our divine purpose like why is that why is that important well because so many of us are walking around like we're just these lone little little beasts walking around feeling all hungry and starving and tired and depressed and and we're not alone and I didn't know I didn't know I mean I knew in theory right because you hear about angels and like oh Jesus over there that but I didn't realize that you could bring this stuff into deep harmony with your life and use it in such a practical way so because my life went through incredible healing in the beginning radically like quantum quantum speed of healing even my physical conditions disappeared I had asthma and all this stuff those started like disappearing right away because of that I knew that it you know I just couldn't keep it to myself for too much longer so yeah people need to know that they're not alone and and need to learn practical ways to work with spirit because I feel like you know even though we love we love relate I love all religions especially the mystical arms the mystical brand but they can also sometimes just empower people by by putting the all the the power into the preacher and not the power into themselves and their direct link with spirit in the divine and it's not until I made my direct link where I was officially online in communication that my life began to change so that's really important for me that people realize you know no matter who you are what you're doing you could be having a bunch of sex doing a bunch of drugs nobody hears okay spirit doesn't care only people care about that [Â __Â ] but spirit doesn't care and no matter where we're at we can engage help and start making miracles yeah I think for I always talk about this life for any concept or for one thing to be true I feel like the opposite has to be true as well like for us to be able to entertain angels unaware and make pacts with with beautiful light beings that have our best interest in mind I think on the flip side even unknowingly people have made pacts with beings on the other side that have ill intent right so that's why I think it's important for us to even have this conversation about the beings that are here to assist us and the plants are here to assist us right thinking about maybe there's plants or foods or things the synthetic stuff that's here too you heard us cause us harm so we need to talk about the things that are here to help us and pull us out the rugs right yes and let me just say this because you just alluded to it I didn't know this okay just like I didn't know about angels what I also didn't realize is that we are under siege by dark by the dark and and most of us don't know that most people think that their depression is their own they don't see the little ugly hanging on them feeding off of their misery and torture and suffering I I noticed that when I started doing one-on-one work and it's like holy [Â __Â ] there's something hey you mind if I get that off of you and then all of a sudden they feel better so I think these spiritual practices whatever you got going on that actually works works for you is so important and I feel like that's a huge part of why I feel so much better is because I had a bunch of bunch of crap bleaching on me what about the power of the ritual and sacred space so when it comes to prayer and connecting with my angels and stuff like that you hear a lot of people say they just do it all day throughout the day like we're not on my commute and that's cool I believe that right I do it too but there's something about creating a sacred space and say okay this is the place in which we meet and I'm here I'm not it's not just my subconscious I'm not just driving the car and thinking about you like I'm ready to really dive in in this this place of experience by setting up a sacred space even in their own home what would something like that look like a sacred space yeah I mean it looks like however someone wants it to look but I see a sacred space inside the home as a portal between you and the divine and so some people you know I recommend candles or flowers or sacred objects but think of it as a window between you and God and I know a lot of I think there's a lot of different types traditions that resist have it they call it having an altar and kind of resists bringing that into the house but it's been a life changing for me and for the people that we work with it's like coming home and you know the church and the revival doesn't have to happen on Sundays in another building it can happen every day in your own home yeah yeah I've definitely seen that in my own life that it doesn't happen in the revivals it's an inward thing that kind of it's a it's it's a fire we all have the fire within us but when we Oh Spirit of God or another person can can can fend that flame within you and then it overflows in it and you start little brush fires wherever you go and that's like genuine revival we've totally seen that in our spiritual life as well so what about like what are some of the other ways that we can know that the angels are communicating with this I know you mentioned like through these different synchronicities and stuff but how do we move forward with that again I have it all day through every day and for me it's almost like just the universe or God just putting bread crumbs down so hey you on the right path keep it up I'm just letting you know hey it's connected I know what's going on in your mind like I've got it all figured out for me it's that a lot of people would talk about like once you have a synchronicity to that maybe it's a sign that I need to tap in or I need to kind of draw away because they have something to show you is there any of any of that that kind of goes on or is it just kind of a go-with-the-flow thing yeah I mean it just depends I think people need to learn learn how to what I call the stop drop and roll method gee do you know Smokey the Bear or aspires okay so they used to tell us Millie when I was growing up like stop drop and roll if there's a fire in your house right so the stop drop and roll is like when you have a synchronicity you have something happened you stop right there you drop into your heart and then whatever that guidance is whatever your first feelings or thoughts you know in the beginning it feels like maybe you might be making it up it's just like it could be really subtle but whatever the message is claim it own it and roll with it so that's stop stop drop and roll yeah what about the ringing of the ears have you looked into that at all there's a lot of because we know the power of tones and meditation like we put on these beautiful 528 523 432 there's a lot of different tones and and in keys that heal the body and allow you to tap in the trance state a lot quicker what about the tones in the ears have you ever heard of that where people will hear those tones when they're by themselves and that they can meditate and it's almost like we have that frequency within us that's allowing us to automatically tune our body to that frequency or it's maybe it's a healing healing tone that's being communicated with this as well there's a lot of Renaissance art with like little doves or UFOs or something sending these these little laser beams to people and to communicate with them telepathically and send signals and stuff like that have you looked into that at all no I mean I've had some of those experiences I mean I wouldn't say I circle around that very much but yeah I mean you know frequency in tone and and I think you know that probably specifically happens lots of clairaudience people you know people who are gonna hear the truth but yeah that's fascinating yeah I've done some reform II it was it was really a synchronicity that led me to that information as well watching it in a cartoon where that happened and then hearing about it in a lecture like the next day I was like wow I blew my mind something the Egyptians believed it was like actually seeing it in a David Wilcock 2012 enigma which was huge for me back in 2012 and then watching Pokemon the next day with my daughter laying on the pallet on the floor and this little creature back here I don't know if you can see him his name is Celebi so up in the corner and uh in the cartoon they caught him and he would sing this lotta stone he would vibrate and resonate at this tone and it would go through the forest and they're running from their enemies and he said if we focus on the tone we can time travel and they in the enemies were coming and they were able to time travel and by locate and in the day before David Wilcock in the dock in the documentary just like broke all of that down I was like wow this is crazy never heard of this in my life and then back to back at something so I was like you know what I should I know yeah oh I love I just love the way spirit teaches us right and it's so funny because I'm gonna watch my daughter shows to like whoever's channeling those shows are dialed in got some crazy stuff if we pay attention yeah it's just out there for everybody well so so you said the book officially launches today right yep it's out there awesome where's the best place for people to pick it up people can go to my website Karen Grillo calm and they can it's right right on the front homepage that's probably the best place to get it because if you buy it through if you buy it and put a receipt and you get a bunch of bonuses like manifesting with the Angels workshop and all kinds of other angels stuff so if you want to get started with an angel chiju Oh something else with the book is that I also have twenty it's twenty one day there's a agreed but I also you can also download free audios that will guide you through the transmissions and the meditations as well so so there you have it yeah congratulations on the book and I know it's gonna help a lot of people and it's already making its rounds and so yeah everybody listening make sure you go check it out again you get a bunch of free stuff I seen what you got set up on the website and there's so much free stuff that you get once you just provide the the receipt pretty much that you get all this really cool stuff so think man I really enjoyed this conversation Corinne thank you for everything that you're doing and need to connect with you more I love to you know I really uh I'm saying looking into what you're doing and I work with you a little bit more so appreciate you hanging out with me yeah we need to really connect I mentioned admit like when I mentioned the the ceremony like all of the women in the community said men only oh and so there's a bunch of people who are interested in something like that so maybe we do a dual thing or something yeah and if anybody said you could contact me through my website implant medicine circles and then you know you and I could talk about it sounds good um you have any experience with Amanita no okay so that's the legal the medicine that you can you can actually order in the US but it's a little bit different than psilocybin though so I don't either but it's it's legal to order and I've been doing a lot of research on it but that's something that it you can actually order it on the internet the Amanita muscaria which is the you know the red mushroom with the little white dots the one that's in like Mario and stuff like that what about before you go what about repay have you have any encounters with repay being yeah yes so yeah Rocco a prety Becca I am a huge advocate of tobacco safer tobacco actually next May I'm going to attend a dieta with the plant medic plant with tobacco and yeah I loved I mean I'm all over that stuff yeah well my friend I really enjoyed this we have to do it again thanks so much for hanging out with me thank you all right talk to you later Corrine Grillo ladies and gentlemen thank you Chris garner for putting her link in the chat yeah make sure y'all check out her stuff man really really cool cool person doing the anybody who is doing it in the inner work it I was saying like is this so much that we have in common and uh and there are people you know even the people who aren't doing it it's I think it's our job to to help them to help them facilitate that to bring forth healing and this is so funny a friend of mine I've had him on the show let's see I just shared his status update on my facebook and he said uh let's see I'm gonna get to it talking quote it right Joshua Davis I did an episode with him but he said we are the tree of life our fruit production is for the healing of the nation's in and you know in the scriptures it talks about that the tree of life and that we will be able to eat from it and and be able to sustain ourselves because we partake of the Tree of Life well we are that tree for other people because where people are able to partake of the fruit that we produce godliness righteousness faith love understanding and so years ago like on my spiritual encounter with psilocybin it was it was communicated with me God said heal the healers heal the healers and I was like what does that mean how do I do that do I have to I have to lay my hands on everybody and pray for them one at a time for them to receive the anointing of God like what is that and so I just begin to look into that a little bit deeper and look into my work and look into my music and my private sessions and my podcast and everything that I'm doing and gods like you already are doing it so I was like I'm not gonna become a healer one day one day God's gonna use me as a healer how do I do that it's like wait you're not going to become anything you already are that which you are seeking is already within you to really understand that you you already have those things within you and so therefore you quit looking outside of yourself for these things it's a journey within that we have the ability to commune with God that even Christ man comes and says let the kingdom of heaven is within you hila strips the power away from all those structures that have been built that are Antichrist right all of these churches where you know there's so many people who are leaving the church there's Christians who are leaving the church and this other church will wave their fingers and say you're leaving Christ I don't think that's happening at all I think there's an awakening happening happening and people are leaving these church buildings not because they're leaving Christ no they are following Jesus Jesus has left the building and they're following Christ outside of the four walls of the church and so they're getting upset because that power structure is changing people are finding that look I don't need you I don't need you I can go within and commune with the Father I don't need your rules and regulations I don't need your dogma I don't need your opinions man but that I can pursue God for myself and there's a beauty in that and so for those of you in the church you would you'd better be teaching people how to do that and facilitating that because you're losing your power really quick and it's not that people are leaving Christ people there's there's a foundation that people have found in Jesus and in the church man but they're coming out of dogma they're coming out of all of this weird stuff that you guys have forced on us over the years and we've all knew that it was wrong but we didn't want to say anything because we didn't want to you know get demonized we don't have the fingers pointed at us but when other people start speaking up and talking about their truth and what they're experiencing it's setting the captives free it's setting the captives free so for all of you whatever it is be authentic even if you even if it's a question have an authentic question even if it's a doubt have an authentic doubt it's okay it's okay right you're still loved you know God's grace is still extended to you whether you know it or not you know so to really embody that that's where the power is is to know that God has called us the deep cries out on too deep and man so you guys got to get with the program now there are churches that are definitely do it doing this churches that are a part of a like a four walled structure and things like that so it's not about organized religion is that is the enemy I don't think so because the opposite of that is unorganized religion right so it's about just having a relationship with the Creator through many different ways that the Creator has given us and I think we have to go back to antiquity I think we have to go back to the beginning I think we have to push that reset button I think we have to pray I think we have to meditate I think we have to embrace the trance state much like what was happening in the lives of the people in the early church the people who were involved with divination seeing signs and wonders angels and all of these things in their lives man they were super spiritual and so now we look at the Western churches like a carnal head knowledge it's just a philosophy like it's so funny somebody's like church structures were like demonize philosophy of the East but they've become a philosophy in the West and it's like understanding Christ and regeneration through a head knowledge and through renewing the mind just through reading the Bible no it's about experience man it's a song-and-dance it's the divine romance that we have with the Creator as he or she speaks through everything through the earth you better believe it through the wind you better believe it and you can go in the scripture and find all if you did you if you need scriptural proof it's in there you might have it have to dig a little bit because they're not talking about this on Sunday morning but it's about that song-and-dance man and we're part of that with the animals with the angels with the spirits with the demons as well every single one of them it's all part of the big ecosystem of what we call spirituality and I definitely address that in my new book so make sure you guys check that out I will be sending out copies today so if you guys go and order one I'm gonna be autographing I'm sending them out today so thank you guys like for all the support with that thing it's it's blowing my mind I didn't know if I was gonna do a video on this next portion here that I wanted to talk about or I guess I'll just address it here and then um maybe it can it can be a its own snippet I don't know but I'm gonna I want to talk about this because this is something that we've talked about on the podcast and if you guys have been following I talked just a couple different guests about this it's about the about signs and wonders right the Bible says these signs shall follow them that believe so I know I've talked to Gil with it about this I've talked to a lot of people about different ministers different Christians charlatans if you will staging miracles and I know that Benny Hinn gets accused of that all the time well those people in the wheelchair they were there you know they didn't really get healed they staged those people and you know and all those healings are fake I don't know about that I do know a woman who went to a Benny Hinn crusade and she was friends with my wife and when they were younger and she had like some stuff going on with her legs and she was healed as at a Benny Hinn crusade when she was younger but we talked about lying signs and wonders and these people who are like staging miracles or putting a plant in the audience and i know peter Popoff was a big one he's a minister he's still out there now but back in the day he was caught you know when you will come to his crusade you would fill out a prayer card if you need prayer let us know your name and address and you know we want to put you on our mailing list and let us know what's ailing you what do you need prayer for and people would say I need prayer for my hear my vision my hearing whatever it is and so he would pray for people and so this guy he got exposed because he had an earpiece in his ear a year monitor and his wife was backstage reading the cards and he would act like they were prophetic words and he would say I feel like there's a Sarah here a Sarah who has a bad back in the Lord ascending healing Sarah lives at this address and he would give the addresses and it would make you think that that God was translating it so we'd build the faith of this woman we were like oh my god God's touching my body he really knows my name and they would create this these false lying signs and wonders to get people to donate to get people to give and and to and it would move the rest of the crowd in a in a in a level of expectation well if God's can do it for that person then they can do it for me and then the supernatural is flowing but and I believe in that but this guy was getting there translating their reading prayer cards and stuff to people and he was acting like there's signs from heaven there's also like angel there's gold dust there's some people have experienced angel feathers like as if angels were really birds and they have feathers on their wings and stuff I don't know but they're these feathers that people have in and deep levels of prayer and church services and rubies and diamonds and emeralds that would just fall and stuff and all these weird signs and wonders and for them it would like validate that God was here or validate that the angels were here right and so they would use these signs and wonders right some people would make it up I know people like David Hogan who would have like I don't know that he's making it up but he has all of these grandiose stories of raising the dead of Lent praying for limbs and hands that were crippled and mangled in them stretching out and becoming whole he tells us one story that they were picking up a bunch of Indian people and this lady fell off the back of her truck of his truck and broke her arm snapped it in half the bone was sticking out they prayed for it to be healed in Jesus name and the bone snapped back into place and it was a divine creative miracle and sharing that in a service gets to people the level of expectation Rises right so but there's those people who lie and make it up like I want to believe I think we all want to believe but they're people who have been busted making it up and I want to address this video because there's a bunch of these these videos on online and I recently seen this one I want to pray I'm gonna play this for those of you who were listening on the podcast app so I'll try to explain what's happening and now I'll put the try to put the link to the video in the show notes so you can come back and watch it on the video version of the podcast but let's see here so okay so there's the video so that here's this video of this this uh lady oh I couldn't find it okay so here's a video of this lady and she's at a prayer gathering I don't know if they're in Africa where but her arm is deformed again there's a scripture in the Bible where there was a man who had a deformed hand a withered hand and God prayed for him and not one of this disciples of Jesus prayed for him and it's his hand became whole so here's this lady here she's in Africa whatever and there's like this creative miracle that happens check it out she's crying they're worshipping God her arm is the wizard it looks like it's broken or just a form from birth this man's pouring water on it and preyas speaking to the armed threat to be made out shaking or the basis for doing the tremble under the power of God speaking to we may pole I'm trembling and trembling and it looks like he's stretching out me and made straight is withered on [Applause] look at the people look at the crowd look at the bro the proud of you did he even give them for those of you getting excited they're watching American tada the ladies arm is almost all the way straight from being mango [Applause] Daria's ladies and gentlemen people are glorifying God she's trembling she's crying she's been healed [Applause] Laura's got so like if you go they're all just worshipping them or praising Jesus thank you for pavement so if you go to this video on on Facebook there are is five million views getting closer to six million there's so many comments where people are just like excited praise God and like when you watch this it does something because we believe in the supernatural we believe that God heals right and then you see it and it confirms see told you here's that here it is on video we don't just read about it in the Bible like we see it in in on video and the comments were people are just testifying praise God this is a miracle he still heals and there's posting you know scriptures and stuff but then some people are skeptical so when I was seeing the video I was like wow this is amazing showed my wife she's like what's wrong with her arm we just like it's crazy so you know what let me go to the comment section the comments section will always figure this stuff out they'll figure it out they get to the bottom of it the creative miracle we're all testifying glorifying God and so if we come to find out this lady was that another healing crusade with another pastor and it's the same lady look at her with the little arm he's like trying to stretch it out in the spirit he's grabbing it I think he says like give me that arm he's our commanding it listen she's crying again [Applause] doing a show put on the show praying it so this is a little this is not even this is at a nice church maybe it's in Africa as well but this is a really big nice church our arm is withered they're praying he's like he looked like he's commanding it like grabbing it in the spirit and like stretching I know okay I'm gonna fast-forward this to see this will pass yourself again it's the same thing our arm begins to stretch be made whole and now the whole church is going crazy worshipping the Lord because of this creative mercy I want to tell you that giving is gonna be an added all-time high because people are just moved by faith to give and to sew into a miracle service like this so that they you know they may be believing for a miracle within their own life so they want to sew into that so the pastor the pastor eventually hits his knees and just begins to bask in the glory of the Lord because they all just witnessed this creative miracle I wanted to address that man because this stuff happens every day it happens every day lying signs and wonders sucks I'm just reading the comments here people saying that's sick yeah that from that angle it looks fake you know and they have these people who were able to go and and it's it's deception Christie folk says using God for selfish gain it's deception and these people are ok with it so if it would be like the devil's advocate say well maybe maybe they keep healing the woman's arm and it just keeps going back into place and it won't never stay put that was advocate maybe you have to keep praying for her to be hold and every time they pray it stretches out I don't know Astrid says I don't need a video to know that God heals I was saved from a car crash that should have killed killed me by all laws of physics and Christ cast out my demons it's personal but my life is a testimony amen you know I think that's the only sign that we need I think that's the only proof that we need is of that of a life transformed one person who was stuck in in sin or someone whose life was was going downhill and they put their faith and trust in Christ and he pulls you out of that muck that's all that that's all the proof that I need and see a life transformed it's all it's all I need Christie says I feel like I've been deceived man there's so many people again like in other churches and I said it cuz I I knew a guy I seen this years ago when I was you know and into big into the charismatic church and stuff like I had a friend who had cerebral palsy and his legs were kind of withered a little bit they they faced inward and they were really small so he had these crutches that hooked to his arm and he was able to kind of hold himself up with the crutches and barely be able to stand on the the legs a little bit so he was able to kind of move around but he couldn't really move around without the crutches or holding on to objects in the house and we will go to prayer meetings we would go to church events and and and stuff like that and people would single him out because of his his ailment and they begin to know him because of his ailment and they would pray for him to see a miracle and he would throw the crutches down and he would begin to walk now they were like baby steps and he would begin to walk and all the people would glorify God and run around the church like they just seen a creative miracle just like this instance right here that we just watched and I've seen this guy I seen him do it maybe on two occasions and then we went to a prayer meeting and he did at a prayer meeting and he was going on tricking all these people and I don't think that he was doing it to get money to money or anything I think he was doing it for sympathy I think he was doing it to to be able to get the attention he loved the attention but he would always do it and it wasn't that God cannot heal him or maybe God was strengthening his or his legs to walk or whatever the case but he would always do that and he would deceive the people because people would think that he was healed and this was the first time it's happened so eventually I was just like man this is weird you know this is this is weird that we're entertaining this stuff and uh that the expectation in the people's estatic encounter with God they feel like they were just privy to a to a creative miracle it's crazy Chris Chris garner says that's the end justifies the means big money and the Machiavellian Church system yeah they think that the ends a it's okay to lie to you because now you have more faith in God it's it's okay to make up these grandiose stories because like the kind of the you know I'm saying the repercussions are good like yes I been bent the truth a little bit but now you're more you love God more or is it now that now necessarily you love God more you believe God more but it's a you're willing to give more you're willing to trust more you're willing to say that hey God is working with these pastors because when they lay hands on people things happen things change people get healed when they pray for you you know it's really getting to the bottom of this stuff in this this intention you know using using God for their own personal gain or for it for ill intent man that's what I wanted to cover that and it's it's going around the interwebs right now and wanted to do a video so it happens all the time but but I do believe in in miracles and signs and wonders and and this is my thing like you know I cover a lot in the book about that about signs and wonders about lying signs and wonders about people even using their children to its a scapegoat thing and it's an automatic vouch it's automatic credibility that doesn't come from anywhere mmm because it's a god thing it's an angel thing I didn't say it God said it don't don't be mad at me be mad at God and people people use it all the time people do it it's a form of escapism but again this that that that credibility to believe someone I mean there's people who claim to a channel all of these entities and rah and people claim the channel Michael Jackson and all of these kind of things you know what I'm saying it's like it ain't me I'm nobody I'm nothing but Michael Jackson is someone let's hear what he has to say I talked about that again with the kid thing I go into there was books written about a kid who died and went to heaven and came back with a vision they sold books there were movies about it there was another kid who died in this other people start following suit you know they get a good publicist behind him they get some money and they're able to market it and then some of these kids come forth later and say look I it didn't happen my parents made me lie about it the story of Marjoe Gortner I'll send you down that rabbit trail there's a documentary called Marge oh I know I've talked about it on here showed some people the child preacher his parents trained him and all of this stuff so that they could make a great living traveling the world preaching and and taught him how to move a crowd and taught them how to do this stuff and some of these people man they put their kids in it they live vicarious parents pretty much anyway live vicariously through their kids at some point wanting to raise them up and play football because you didn't play football or you got hurt and you couldn't make it to the big leagues and so you want to you know live vicariously through your kid or put them through dances or put your little babies through like beauty pageants and this is you know weird stuff so parents live vicariously through their children and so they they prey off of the innocence of the week that nobody's gonna question that this child would have all of this information and while with this child make all of this stuff up and follow it through only to find out that the parents coached them through the whole thing and these people who are having dreams and visions and you know seeing as one dude he had he wrote a book called 23 minutes in hell where he had this revelation where God pulled him to hell and while come through the different chambers and gave them enough material to write a book I'm convinced that if you really went to a place like that that you would be a vegetable that when you came back you would you like if that place really existed that you wouldn't even be able to talk about it you know because when the Apostle Paul went to heaven he come back he was dumbfounded he said man not seeing things that it's not pervy for a man to speak about I can try I know I sound foolish and I think that's what we do when we enter some of those heavy heavenly states there's we've seen things and communicated with beings that don't even have a shape or they look like geometric patterns or they you know all of this kind of stuff when we try that we sound silly trying to talk about this the Apostle Paul couldn't but you could in your twenty year the twenty three minutes in hell but how how convenient that once that book went to the bestseller God sucked him into another vision and gave him twenty three minutes in heaven and told the guy went heaven looked liked and showed them all this kind of stuff and then he did another best it had to be a follow up we got the people where we want them capitalized capitalized I questioned it I questioned myself you know what I'm saying like I questioned my experiences in my encounters there's something about having the spiritual supernatural inward encounters I love them though like I've had beautiful they've I've had these one-on-one encounters with God that just changed my life but again when we look at the consciousness and we look at the mind and we we facilitate these encounters because we expect these encounters and part of our consciousness and the law of attraction if you will is that we we've created them we've we've believed them we've wanted them we've desired them and then they these encounters came to us at the beginning I see one of my friends here talk about they would love to have an angelic encounter and people ask me how do I do it first of all expect it get into a place where you're expecting it and then it will come to you make sure that you're you're seeking it make sure you're giving it enough time enough energy make sure you align yourself up with what you think that an angelic encounter or quest deserves or requires whether it's fasting in prayer or psychedelic adventure whatever it is like and then you begin you you facilitate it and you begin the universe the world is set up in such a way where you will find you will see you will encounter whatever it is that you're looking for and it becomes your truth and you do decipher and discern the world through that lens of what you've been studying of what you've been led to believe no matter how true it is it's your truth it's your true there's people who go around and they believe in a literal hell and they think that everybody who is is dying without the gospel or everyone who dies without giving their life to Christ through the right denomination mind you not just a general Christ because they say there's different Jesus's but through their denomination they walk around and literally look at people with compassion like they're dying and going to hell and that they're gonna burn for eternity everyone you have a conversation with them about the football game and they're just they're just in compassion for you because you're gonna die and burn in eternal torments and everyone that they look at is dying even Christians they'll look at them aside with it they're involved in the wrong denomination and if you don't get out of that and you're gonna die and burn forever like these this is the consciousness and the lens that they view life through they expected it's their worldview so your expectation brings about your manifestation whatever you believe whatever you're looking for you're gonna find it if you're looking for the beauty in all things if you're looking for love and all things if you're looking for truth in all things you're gonna find it if you looking for deception if you're looking for demons if you looking for heresies if you're looking for people who disagree with you they're out there they're gonna you're gonna find it you know and it's so powerful again I questioned myself because as I look I'm looking and if this journey I'm looking like did I did I imagine this stuff these these encounters did I create them did I facilitate them were they real were they in my mind Joe Rogan and those guys talk about the release of Dean DMT in the brain which is what is naturally released to the through the third eye pineal gland when you go to sleep that produces put your body in a state of rest and be able to have these dream to dream state to be so vivid and it's talking about like there's a people can just do things that releases natural DMT throughout the brain to have spiritual encounters I mean when we go into the trance State we're releasing DMT through the third eye and we're facilitating the trance state that way but the science is showing that that that becomes our reality what would say that it's all just in my mind is the fact that other people are experiencing this with you and those are some of the weird encounters where it wasn't just me where it was me and someone else experienced the same thing was the right amount of DMT released in our brains and we both seen no not at all something's happening whether we summoned it and created it as a Tulpa as we brought it into this reality through the power of our thoughts in the creative mind or expecting it there's that could be all of this again whether the people believe that this is assimilation I definitely believe it's the matrix I definitely believe in synchronicities I definitely believe in a greater intelligence that's watching everything again synchronicity is happening in lines you're saying the stuff that's on the TV right when you say it or release a video and the song comes on the TV that's about your video and just I mean it just pasta this endless endless and it shows how we are all connected but the power of the thought and creative mind I believe it I love it I'm with you I think that everything comes from the now moment of creating it all but I'm really concerned when it they cross over when those encounters cross over like we close our eyes and encounter angels and the spirit and travel to heaven I'm cool I love it but there's something about when an angel steps in and physically manifest or a demon physically manifest all your dreams physically manifest you're able to pull it out of the ethers and I really at the end of the day I think that that is what a true shaman is is one who was able to go into the dream state go into the the you know the mind and be able to pull things out and manifest it into this reality all of us have dreams all of us have visions hopes and desires but who can do the work to manifest it and bring it into the into the reality especially when you're when you're situation says the opposite when the situation says something totally totally different than what you're believing for or you're expecting to work with what we call universal laws the trance State the power of creative thought the power of the imagination to be able to bring it into our reality whether you want to call it the law of attraction like if you believe for that parking spot it shows up eventually if you believe for these things they show up you believe that God is gonna speak to you guess what God speaks to you you believe for angelic encounter guess what you have won in this the way of the pot was that this creative force that we are one with the father of all of creation were made in the image and likeness of that creator and it all came through his mind through the expression of God do we share in that whether people want to say we're little gods were definitely created in the likeness and expression of that creator and we have the ability to create as well now there's time and seasons and planning things and stuff work it has them there's manifestation that happens some people get better at that some people are able to look at the seasons and be able to position themselves in a way to receive even though it doesn't look like it's there look I'm getting ready I can read the signs I know about expectation manifestation and I'm gonna align myself to receive I'm gonna prepare for it almost like Noah like had this vision or this word from God he's gonna send the flood people like it's gonna rain woody Tom but it's gonna rain you're a crazy old man no no no it's gonna rain guys and it's not gonna stop and if you don't prepare for it now you're gonna be you're gonna be messed up so to have that word from God which is that vision that one-on-one encounter that God has given you an impartation of belief whatever it is like you can have the things which God has shown you but you have to prepare for it you have to stay faithful you have to build as people walking about scoffing oh you're building a boat okay never seen one why is that boat look like a square that's a weird boat you know and people are gonna laugh at you people are gonna scoff and mock but you know that God has given your word and given you a sign and you stay faithful until the completion of it and in the end he brings it into people marvel and didn't they wish they would have helped you they tried they wish they would have took part in that Jennifer talks about even believing in the glory again for sure it's it's definitely like the law of attraction law of manifestation works for everything the good and the bad most of see we're just programmed to be by default like the game of Plinko like a game of chance you just dropped the Plinko chipping it just falls wherever it may and you're just there I'm in a job I don't know how I got to this job I don't know how I became a truck driver driving for ten years stuck in this job is this how it ends is this where it ends at this and we're gonna get me a car crash one day and it just ends driving this truck it's my destiny lost am i content with it if it does do I still love God we just by default man with just in these marriages and situations that people just like me Honda hell did I get here it's by default you just you don't build your dream you get hired to help somebody else build their dream that company that you work for that was somebody's vision that they that they worked hard at to bring it to bring it about so it works for everything again go back to the scriptures manifestation we call it a placebo effect I mean there's people who had encountered Jesus the Son of God loved embodied in flesh they encountered him and they heard stories they heard about the miracles and they said look if I could just get close enough if I can touch to him of his garment I'll be healed that was their truth if you and other people came and said look my son just passed away if you say the word I know they'll come back to life okay woman you said your faith has made them them well he didn't say okay because of the power invested in me be healed he didn't do that he said look your faith has done it and it was the woman with the issue of blood said if I touch it her faith he said I've never seen so greater faith he's healed go back home he need something to eat your son is back and he's just showing them and it's their faith it was their placebo because they believed that they received it why oh that's not it he was the son of God and went around healing look he went into the villages of people where they they knew him they said no they nothing special about this guy we know a lot about him we can tell you stories about this guy we grew up with him right and so he would come into villages of people and he couldn't heal anyone because of their doubt and unbelief now it wasn't because of his ability not to it was because of their doubt and unbelief but it was the power of faith and placebo a guy who they said oh we to get him close to Jesus let's just they brought this paraplegic upon it that the top of a house where Jesus was speaking and they tore the roof open and they lowered the guy in we got to get him close enough and he'll be healed God was healed cuz they believed it wasn't just a guy who who was suffering in his body but the other friends who who who joined with him in their face and said Lloyd you know if to a thing if two of two or three touching agree on anything is uh but it shall be given unto them where two or three touch and gather on my name there I am in the midst of them the prophet has no honor in his home country that's for sure we I've tried to do stuff here mobile we can't do nothing but people have us out man this have us out in different states and people never heard of us and they've you know the level of expectation and we can see miracles or people judge you because of your past the placebo effect whatever you believe you shall receive you know the world says that if I if I see it then I believe it showed me and I'll believe it but faith says I believe it so I will receive it because I believe it that's what faith is it's believing in something that you cannot see I mean there's power in that there's power in the placebo there's power in belief or the lack of again you want to have spiritual encounter create it again I go back and look at I'll go back and look at all of the spiritual experiences in my life and it kind of scares me it's like dang I created this I mean I remember going through like home meetings and stuff when I was really tapping into the prophetic and some of it was just getting used to it and how this stuff we it operates but we would pray and we would like before we would go in and we would ask God for a prophetic word god I ask you to speak to our hearts and give us a word for somebody here so just then when we that we're training our mind to expect a word from God for somebody so that so therefore we go in here expecting ok God's gonna speak to us and we're looking around we're ready to receive even though we're learning and there's other stuff going on it's still we've already programmed our mind to receive it and then at the end of the session we have a word for somebody I believe that the Lord wants to you know share communicate this with you and we always have a word we'd always found what we were looking for we would go visit churches and ask for a word for that church God give us a word for this church what would you say to the pastor and we would be downloaded something from the father's heart for the church and we'd share it with the pastor you know our healings believing for healing is believing for deliverance whatever you believe for you shall receive it we would go on faith and not have any gas money to make it to this meeting and we'd pray God we really want to be here we know we're supposed to be here we don't have money please open up a door for us to be able to have gas money to make it to this meeting all the gas money was twenty dollars is all we needed just to get there get our gas and drive back across cross town and we get there and we're nervous we've prayed we're seeking God we're walking out the door we're about to get in our car that has zero gas in there's no way we can make it home we go to walk out the door and someone says hey the Lord told me to give you this twenty dollars what I'm talking about having your faith built say man hold on God really does have this if we trust and believe but first we have to believe first we have to trust a bit go hand-in-hand but they be able to see these divine encounters in these miracles in our lives because we believe them and then so whom much is given much is required and it begins to trust us with more the same faith that it took to get to a $20 home meeting to pay for the gas is the same faith that it takes to believe for twenty thousand dollar car a two hundred thousand dollar home it's the same faith the faith doesn't change it's a gift it's the gift of faith that comes through faith is faith this is believing it I know it seems farther away maybe it takes a little bit more time but it's already there you just have to believe it and there's different obstacles as you believe it again what I've talked about this earlier even with my own faith and rationalizing things and what is this gonna look like and how do I get to it and there's just own levels of obstacles to get there but being able to see that and knowing that it's a thing and knowing and it's death it's an obstacle an obstacle is there for you to overcome it and then be a testimony to others about what God can do for you what God can do for them because he did it through you and God is not a respecter of persons it's not that I'm just using that person I only use them at that level knowing you have to know your calling and know what God has called you to do and then believe for that get that vision whatever it is and that comes through the trance Tate that comes to dreams some of you have to return to the dream that you was given when you was a child that you lost the company took it from you an uncle took it from you your parents a job schooling they stole your dream you got to recapture that dream it's part of the journey no matter where you are there's people man in their 70s and 80 is just now recapturing the dream and stepping into it walking in it and God is not a respecter of persons and so these universal laws these principles they go they go hand in hand and we're seeing them we're believing for them it takes finances I see it in my community Christi folks here says faith is that five hundred dollars your boss gives you when your bank account is in a negative mind-blown your faith isn't in the boss your faith isn't in the money your faith is in the Creator who is the Bible says it's the author and finisher of this whole thing that means this thing is scripted someone is writing your story hey can you uh can you add this is it done yet is it sealed and scrolled in time or are you still creating it can you add this is this possible I like for this and get with the author and finisher of your faith man take you beyond your wildest dreams at this point I've always it's about being in a place of an attitude of gratitude where you're always thankful because as you're thankful and as those feelings and as those blessings come you begin to reciprocate it you begin to you know not think of yourself as special you begin to honor the father and the one who gives the dreams and and you do it some people if they had their dreams right now it would destroy him they want to win the lottery so they can win no like it would destroy you and so you have to go through these testings you have to go through these trials in order to be in a position where you can be a good steward of what God gives you you can't you can't steward $500 you're not going to be able to steward a fifty thousand I'm sorry you can't Stewart it and you have to get to a place where you can be a good steward of that and then God is orchestrating that for you passed the test respond with love respond with with peace respond with grace with to everything respond like Jesus would respond turn the other cheek bless those who curse you pray for those who use you you know what I'm saying like that's how you pass the test I go I go over that a bunch in my book my book is about all of this stuff I tried to not leave any stone unturned in the book I tried to really going on at all in that sanctification process of being refined in the refiners fire being made as that of pure gold and all the impurities come out you got to deal with it the plant medicines help you to deal with it being triggered people characters coming into your life to bring certain things out of you that you thought you were was dealt with long ago anger issues trust issues all of that stuff man is beautiful it's intricate like we have a part in that we share we're not just victims anymore we're victors we share a part in that and it's us at do the spirit of love man and it's so beautiful it's so wonderful you know again I told you know many of you guys know I hung out with a Brian Head Welch from corn like I've looked up to this guy since I was man 11 12 years old listening to their music you know and like I told we did a little cute little Instagram video like I used to draw pictures of him I used to draw pictures of all the members and I think like I remember how to draw them like I would draw them with the dreadlocks and all that kind of stuff and with the braids and I would draw the band when I was 12 years old now I'm hanging out with him now I'm texting him and people are like are you freaking out no not at all but I can look back at my life and say you know what if this was five years ago I totally probably would have been freaking out I probably would have ran those people away and I sigh just had us a bunch of people celebrities it's like look man God is like the places he's able able to bring you the Bible says that Jost sit with the highly and he sits with the lowly man like God is not a respecter of persons like again I have friends who were millionaires their own mansions and private jets and then I have friends who are homeless who were living in abandoned vacant houses if the cops find them they're in trouble and they've been there for years they're squatters and I and they're both invited to my birthday parties that's how it is and you should see it when it comes together the high class and the low class those are very interesting but just to see this this whole thing man of where God is able to take you and I and he'll take you beyond your wildest dreams is what I'm telling you but you got to be able to handle it if I had heads number from corn like you know five years ago 10 years ago I've been texting him non-stop I've been asking him to begging him to do songs with me begging him to come on the podcast like I would would have been I would have messed it up you know but it's it's so crazy man just of different places that God is able to take you that's just an example man he's just a man at the end of the day just like you know all of us puts his pants on one leg at a time super down-to-earth person but you have to you got to come out of that you move by by men and you're moved by renowned and you move by applause you got to get rid of that because there comes a time when that comes and goes and this doesn't always stick around you got to be moved by faith not by opinions not by chairs not by the mighty but again just looking over the scriptures and seeing yourself in those stories and then as you'll be holding a reflection of yourself these articulated and beautifully crafted stories that the author and finisher of your faith has woven your story within that and you're able to see yourself in these these archetypes in the Bible and didn't I look at you know what I'm saying look at all Joseph who's in the dungeon serving you know I'm saying he was trapped but he had greatness inside of him how many of you have ever felt stuck you got greatness inside of you but you're back in groceries you got greatness inside of you but you can't find a job you can't keep a job you got greatness inside of you but you're stuck in a truck working at a dead-end job that's where Joseph was in the scriptures and he's like man he's a it's been given all of these the revelation on how to interpret all of these mysteries and he's you tell him your dream and he knows exactly what it means and he can this breakthrough that comes but he's in a freaking dungeon there's rats down here there's feces there's there's murderers and people who deserve to be down here like rubbing shoulders with these people but in the scripts that he stayed faithful and he was brought from the prison to the palace he was given a moment an opportunity to before become before Pharaoh they were looking for somebody to interpret this dream that was plaguing him nobody can interpret Pharaoh's dreams Joseph says look I know that I can I bet you I can I've been training for this my whole life God has been getting me ready my whole life give me a shot he interpreted Pharaoh's dreams and he made him one of his chief magicians he made him one of his chief the chief counselors because he had the power they said look this is one this guy here he's better than all of y'all and he was doing it under under the hand of Yahweh but he put him over the necromancers he put him over all of their magicians and people who used sorcery and stuff like that but cuz he was able to tap into the father's heart but he was created for that he went from the prison to the palace and it was all by God's construction orchestrating and timing looking at the story of David and Goliath right you know David's just a shepherd boy just a normal guy who's tending sheep is out there by itself how many of you guys have been out there by yourself feel like you're the only one going through this feeling like you're out you're out there on this island by yourself nobody knows what you're going through nobody fieldmouse God blessing everyone around me but not me like I think I'm qualified right you got to get humbled humble yourself before the mighty hand of God and in due time the Lord will exalt you people ain't gonna do it quit tryin to get a retweet quit tryin to get a feature quit trying to get a cosign God is the one who does it the people have no say there's God who does it humble yourself daily make sure you're in that place of just Thanksgiving no matter where you are knowing that probably where you are is even an answer to prayer and you're beginning to complain about the things that you beg God for gratitude thank you I'm here I'm thankful that I'm alive I'm thankful that I have breath I think well that my heart works my hands I can create David was out there and by a self tending his sheep and then sometimes these these predators would come after the Sheep and try to kill him there were wolves and lions and bears and David had been practicing with his little slingshot he's hitting targets and all this practice and developing his skill his talent when nobody could see him and so when these wolves come and the Bears come Dave was able to kill him you killed him because he was gotten so good with to protect his sheep and then when they put out a decree look we got a giant a straightening the city who has faith to help us take out this giant know everybody aired the death of that giant and now you have Giants in your life to it maybe bills they maybe finances they maybe dreams that are it maybe an enemy that is standing in the promised land that's taunting you you never get here mmm because you got to get through the giant first you can have the land but you got to get through me first you'll a nobody wants to fight you're arguing I guess I can't fight you either but notice that look I've been training me God's been training you to be able to take the Giants to be able to take the land so Dave is confident killed a bear them kill the wolf then killed lions look I'm taking giant there's nothing I can overcome this I got this so he takes out the Giant and God and he becomes king and he becomes you know the one the ones who were persecuting him and the ones who were coming against them the scripture says God will make your enemies your footstool people who talking about you gossip and making fun of you like they're gonna be apologizing to you God will make them apologize to you I had it I've had those people blow up and just straight all types of speak every manner of evil against me and then the next day or two weeks from now or two months from now or a year from now the Holy Spirit convicts them and makes them repent and come unto you because they did something they spoke evil against you scripture says touch not mine anointed do my prophets no harm to know that you are called you enough you are anointed by God and you have to carry that anointing and that everything is gonna line up for your good even though it doesn't look like it even though it looks like you're stuck in a pasture all by yourself just waiting years years years even if it looks like you're in the bottom of a prison it's people who listen to this in prison and God is setting the captives free man he put you in a position you got to be grateful this there's natural empathy that is imparted to you in these places that don't come from the mountaintop now they allow you to sustain yourself into to know truth into no universal law and to who God is and gods character that you learn through going through the trials and through the testing that you and never give you'll never get it but you go through that stuff and you get it it's imparted onto you make your enemies your footstool man when he courage somebody I know I'm talking to somebody I know it I know it I don't question it I don't don't doubt it I have faith and I know and guess what because I have faith and I know I know that the Word of God does not come back void and I know it goes out and it heals people and it pulls them out of situations and it pulls them out of disaster and it gives them hope I know it I've seen it I'm seeing it I'm seeing people come out of those dead-end jobs and pursue something greater I'm seeing people step into their their life's calling by listening to words of encouragement speak in life so there's no there's no question not do it even if it's just for the one so I want you to do it I want you to pay it forward I want you to raise up people under you I want you to start a podcast I want you to share what God has given you what helps you do it man you're speaking to your spirit these words are life it's truth at the end of the day I'm just sharing what works for me if it didn't work I wouldn't share I'm gonna share what didn't work but look it's so that you can learn what works and what doesn't work it's for you I can't do the work for you though I can't do it for you it's there God is not a respecter of person so we all have the same 24 hours in a day now what you do with that that time is up to you you have again I always talk about we have smartphones and we have the ability to man you could do a you can make a channel about again crazy stuff ways to cook eggs whatever your passion is they like put you're passing like if you're if your passion is cooking like ways to cook ramen noodles you can make a YouTube channel that just specializes in that and eventually if you stay consistent with it you can put ads on there may be those that revenue gets eventually gets enough to to pay your light bill there's your light bill maybe there's t-shirts that you maybe there's ramen noodle t-shirts that you create because your channel is about how to cook ramen noodles maybe you got t-shirts maybe you got you know maybe you're doing one-on-one sessions with people like really showing that maybe you're doing seminars maybe people having you to come speak like the possibilities are in this is what I'm telling you and if God has given you the vision he will provide the provision now you have to seek it out you have to stay consistent you can't show it once a week what happens if you go to work and you just show up once a week on the job this guy only comes on Mondays rest of the week he just does what he wants to do look you got to show up you got to run the race you have to like the parable of the talents God has given us all these talents what are you doing with it you haven't did you bury it and hit it I hit it deep in my hearts and no one would steal it we didn't cultivate it I gave it to you to cultivate cultivate plan it share it I'm telling you the more you give the more you receive it's the law of compensation look it up don't take my word for it there's many people before me this is I didn't make none of this up I didn't make none of it up I'm stepping into the flow man and you need to as well step into the flow let God fight your enemies for you he'll do it I got a whole book on it flex what he does you know man and I feel like man instead the world would be a better place just for you for you to step into you're at least your world right your world would be better to step into tibia to wake up and do what you love for a living I used to feel like we all deserve that you don't deserve it you deserve what you work for you deserve I'm not gonna get into that but you don't you think that God wants us all to be happy and God wants us all to live our best life now it's available you can live your best life now but you got to work you got to show up you got all the principles I think you've been things you've been learning you got to put them into place other Nets theories it's for those who work for is for the early bird gets the worm you got to show up you got to ask the father you got to put it out there their principles that are that apply to everyone not just preachers not just prophets not just Christians everyone is that Frederic I think says so this is Frederic I'm gonna make sure that every moment is sacred yeah Frederic sending your book out today every moment is sacred and if you know that that I mean Eckhart Tolle is a millionaire by teaching people that every moment is sacred teaching them how to how to manifest and how to tap into the now moment it's the only moment that you ever have are you talking about when you're tapping in whether it's by the use of plant medicine or deep levels of meditation you're gonna you're going to receive the download of information that now is the only moment that you have don't waste it time is precious you don't get much the only thing that the that you can't get back is time and it's precious and it's powerful seed time and harvest put put a seed in the ground I felt like seeds or different things for different people for those of you who want to start a podcast well eventually you're gonna have to have a logo maybe that logo was the seed hire somebody to do your logo put that seed in the ground maybe in 24 hours maybe in three days the seed comes back that's a quick one you got a new logo Wow cool logo it looks good maybe you want to start a podcast maybe you put something in the ground maybe maybe buying a microphone well I don't money for it maybe you know I don't know maybe a credit card maybe invest in yourself you know what I'm saying put that seed in the ground so much in it comes to fruition be not deceive whatsoever a man soweth that he will also reap if you don't put nothing in the ground quit coming over here with your hand out you didn't put nothing in the ground nothing's gonna come up you're expected but description says the harvest is plentiful but the laborers are few you got a laborer you get a toil um I love glorying with other friends I love I mean the Bible talks about that just about like when we have friends around or we have accolades and things in our life we could I want to have people with me I want to have my people with me but you got to put in on this you got to help I'm not doing all the work you so you can ride my coattail now freely I have been given freely out will receive I didn't have to pay for any of this stuff but to to manifest it and to invest in yourself that's a whole nother story there's people out there who know how to do this stuff you need to get with them I'm freely sharing this this information and you can figure it out you can check out my book you can I mean there's just so many people watching endless YouTube videos or podcast I'll tell you what when I wanted to start a podcast I quit listen in the spiritual podcast guess what I started listening to podcast about podcasting I started listening to podcast about podcasting that teach you how to podcast what pitfalls who to use for your hosting who do what microphones work what quality should I save my files and I begin to be infatuated and really get to the bottom of it and I fell in love with the art and how it works and they're good and the bad and the pros and the cons you know I'm doing this you know even you learn little things and you get better and you add it to your arsenal there's people who I don't have to reinvent the podcasting wheel there's people who are doing a great job with it and you can hire those people you could do sessions with those people you can buy courses from those people in packages I'm getting ready to put together just an entire package to show you guys everything I do on the podcasting in I get messages from all these people even people I interview big-name people etcetera so you gotta look your aesthetic looks beautiful how do you do it I've helped countless people with their aesthetic and it's like I'm getting ready to put it in the package look if you want to do it yourself it can be done here's what I did this is how I do it you can get the package or you can hire me to do it for you you need a logo hire me to do it you need a website hire me to do it whatever you need but you got to invest in yourself neither again you don't have to reinvent the wheel find somebody who is doing what you want to do and learn with them you show me your friends I'll show you your future find those people who are already doing it it's crazy it's that simple it's hard work yeah see you Tom harvests some of it you know something some plants to grow and in different temperatures and different altitudes some plants grow at night you know vegetables it's different but make sure you got you make sure you got your garden man go back to the garden Martin go back to the garden cultivate the land that's what Jesus says he's in your garden go back there man cultivate it there's some weeds you got to pull up look if you and Jesus told you that like you don't pull those weeds out that Rose isn't gonna last that rose is gonna get choked out if you don't water this one this one starts do you have to water it make sure you got your stuff lined out in rows see you Tom and harvest it will always be here it'll always be here moving in excellence going above and beyond seeing people who are doing it and you're not I mean it's not just about emulating everything that everyone's doing but find out what they're doing man and say hey I'm gonna do that I want that microphone I want that lighting what's that lighting Trucy can use this where's that at is that available the light behind him I like the light what is it like there's people doing it man watch other people see what they're doing it like uh uh and it's straight up like I used to download Joe Rogan's episodes on the mp3 from his podcast and I seen that they were all tagged libsyn dot-com what is Lipson Lipson is a podcasting host and it's it's kind of pricey you have to pay for your storage but see in order for Joe Rogan's using it if it's good enough for Joe Rogan and he's wanted like that he's the best and biggest podcasts are out there maybe I shouldn't well people are telling me to use all these other programs no I'm gonna use what he's using this microphone just a mic Joe Rogan uses yeah it's kind of expensive like you gotta invest in yourself and so just researching this stuff how are they doing it and how can I make it my own how could I put my spin on it how can I put my my touch on it my creativity you know just learning this stuff like how does your brain work what are you looking at it's there for you ain't nobody gonna do it for you nobody's gonna do the work for you now you can hire people to do things to teach you again but as far as your dream nobody's gonna be passionate about your dream like you are there be foolish of you to think that ah I always think that and its fullest I wish I had three other people that would just like me and it's motivated me but you know you're motivated for a reason you need to get people who are in your life who can do other things that you can't do even though I'll do a course on how to do podcasting it's still Chinese for somebody they don't know what I'm talking about so but they have money that they would invest they look I don't know how to do a logo I don't I don't have no idea what Lipstein is I don't know what these things that let me pay you to set it up for me and then show me how to maintain it or I will pay you to maintain it I'll pay you to upload my episodes I will pay you to do my artwork I will pay you to do this I'm telling you man your passion I'll uh I still even though it's work I still love doing it like I love helping people I love creating images even though it's a lot of work if you go back to my website let me just show you guys right here I'm gonna go to my website right quick Trucy go calm if you go to my labs website consistency is key it's about being consistent it's about showing up and eventually you got a library but it starts with one start it with one podcast episode archiving it putting it out promoting it two three four five six seven I've just surpassed I think two hundred and fifty episodes it's a lot of work it's not easy if it was easy everyone would do it it's not easy at all if it was easy everyone would do it but I'm gonna show you this right here so this is my website I'm gonna show this on the screen and just explain what it is for people it's a lot of work editing the episodes I download the episodes and compress the audio and edit it a little bit and really it's you know try to give good content and even and this is something that I do that not everybody has to do or maybe even should do but if you look here I do all of the artwork for every episode and it uh it's a lot of work it takes sometimes it may take me an hour just to design one of these images right here but I love it I love it I just love creating something and using their image and cutting them out like I know how to do that everybody doesn't know how to do it but I do it and they add up check this I'm just gonna scroll I'm just scrolling here I've made all of these images consistency consistency and assists I'm just gonna keep scrolling consistency I don't feel like it consistency these are these are podcast episodes many of these or 300 word articles that I've even put with the episodes I've kind of gotten slack on that lately but many of these earlier ones I definitely put a whole blog post look at these they just keep coming they won't stop I've made each one of these images a lot of work but guess what now I got a library now I got a library with all these podcast episodes meditations let me start out with one let me try look guided meditations a whole new level of creativity a whole new way to make income to fund the vision and to have fun while doing it these are fun to make they're helping people it's like what it's consistency keep showing up don't stop showing up that's the difference between The Tortoise and the hare right the rabbit versus the turtle rabbit right off the line just beat some gets almost to the end I said I'm gonna go to sleep it will take a break the turtle is way behind me he's very slow but guess what turtles just keep walking keep moving keep moving don't give up I don't feel like it I'm gonna keep going I'm in it for the long haul I ain't going nowhere where y'all going I'm in it for the long haul yeah you're gonna have things and stuff that come against you and all kind of stuff like that but look I'm just in it and you see everybody else way ahead of you man they're really good at it but you know what I'm still in it it ain't my time but it's my turn and I'm gonna keep moving forward and at the end the turdus the tortoise turtle beats the hair gets to the end of the race because the the rabbit fell asleep and it's able to just a move pass and beat him because he was sleeping on his dream he was sleeping on the race consistency is key once I found that out that was one of my biggest downfalls its consistency just showing up when I wanted to show up being so creative that I wanted to have my hand in like 17 different pots like I wanted to be in a band I wanted to rap I wanted to have a podcast I wanted to do a Christian rap website I wanted to do it inspirational I want to I have my hands there's so many different things but so none of them were fruitful until you can find that one or two things and just become consistent with it and at the end of the day it pays off and people people don't see that though they just see this they see the episode they see the interview they don't know about the hard work that goes in on the back end the scripture says that if you seek Him in private he will reward you openly they don't know about what goes on in the private they don't know about the fasting and the seeking and the praying and the travail and the questions in the doubt they don't know about that all they can see is the finished product but they don't know what went into it not just for me but for you guys as well dealing with the opinions of men and all of that kind of stuff but I'm telling you hard work pays off I don't feel like it all the time there's many times like I'm trying to wipe the sleep out of my eyes trying to have conversations with people and it's like I can't get woke up or what I need to go exercise or I need some more coffee or whatever like I'd do it anyway I tap in and then once you know would be some of the best interviews I've done or like my guest doesn't show on me that's a great excuse not to do an interview up guest:it or podcasts guests didn't show up guess no podcast today and people in the community black man go ahead go live man just do it just go live push the button what are you I'm scared what do you want me to talk about I have nothing nothing prepared I don't know what to talk about then I go I end up going for two hours two and a half hours by myself talk being creating some of my best content that just kind of organically flows and then coming out asking and answering questions from the chat and having this dialoguing with you guys and it's like the best content ever if you know just because I showed up I didn't want to some of y'all convinced me to do it anyway we encourage one another show up I tell you a little bit of encouragement goes a long way pay it forward I hope that this encouraged you to pursue your dreams to believe God for the things unseen to believe for the unbelievable because it's if you believe it you will receive it whatever it is we're new your mind that's the whole thing about Christ consciousness is renewing your mind so that you have the mind of Christ that you're looking at things that you're viewing life through the lens of the renewed mind we knew by the Spirit of Christ where all things are pure while all things are beautiful tell me you man it's a battle it's a struggle it's a spiritual war it's good there's bad there's demons there's angels they're spirits this ghost there's all kind of stuff going on trying to make sense of it all but you can do it if I can you can there's levels man we understand together not going anywhere shout-out to you guys for hanging out with me for this long we've done a two and a half hour episode and I enjoyed it and enjoy it enjoy the talk enjoy the different perspectives and everything that people bring to the table and I want to know man like what is helping these people like what does it look like how can it help us right how can it hurt us is there any warnings so it's there man man shout out to you Renee Renee says I've seen my brother in tears of gratitude for you showing up I've cried with them I've been on here in tears of gratitude I've you know when I think about it I can I'm like an actor I can make myself cry on cue they say go to like actors have to go to a point of pain or something to cry like if I start thinking about the goodness of God and the blessings in his hand in my life I just begin I have to stop talking my voice will crack you guys have seen me when there's video clips I'm a grown man who cries and I when it's been a long time since I cried I need to be broken and stay in that so thank you guys for hanging out with me thank you guys for believing in me flying penguins Martin says he's encouraged amen you receive it brother you called me yesterday and encouraged me so I'm returning the favorite brother paying it forward and then there's a lot of other people listening so it's just that ripple effect so appreciate you guys yeah thank you I salute inform others purchased a book I'm gonna get these out here in a little while I got a sign a handful of copies get them in the mail if you want to support my work you can purchase the book that helps but I'll show up on patreon the patrons the the best way to support and different stuff that's there to everybody who signs up at certain levels you get different things all my meditations were even available at the $25 level dollar level on there if you want to get those school of the Mystics all that cool stuff check it out patreon.com slash truth seeker link is in the description man I mean I'm encouraged by you guys the fruit of my labor I don't even have to like take claim on it you don't even have to tell me I know you know I can see I can see God's hand moving I got see people moving I see people walking in the Destiny I see them expecting miracles I see them receiving miracles of financial breakthrough as a miracle for many people right jobs you know just super super naturally walking into jobs Christy folks like so many people my John Thomas Jesse Thomas like supernaturally Andrew him Josh supernaturally walking into jobs because God just lines it up ahead of you he he's the author and finisher he wrote it he scripted it into the story you just walk in it you're in the flow you're in the flow so thank you guys love y'all we would do it again peace peace hello that does it for this episode folks to hear more episodes of the truth seeker podcast head over to Jessica calm and if you're wanting to support the show and get rewards go to our patreon page at patreon.com forward slash truth seeker


