Mysteries of the Kingdom, Angelic Tongues and Interpretations | Freedom Joy

Mysteries of the Kingdom , Angelic Tongues and Interpretations | Freedom Joy
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Miss freedom joy my friend welcome to
the true seeker podcast how are you I'm
doing well
senior interview with Gill on Kingdom
talks Gill and Berlin and they were like
true seeker you got to have her on your
podcast you guys would really get it in
you guys would have a blast sauce like
you know what I watched the interview
and said yeah let's do it man anybody
who was kind of out there on the fringe
like on the cutting edge for
spirituality and then you love the Lord
as well
so what can go wrong man we're gonna
talk about spirituality the the the road
to awakening which is something that's
happening all across the globe so I
guess it's a good starting place to
start just let the people know who you
are and what you bring to the table and
we'll start there
well like I said I'm freedom let's see I
am I've grown up in the church but I
didn't actually start even exploring the
spiritual realm until probably about
four years ago I didn't know anything I
didn't have any relationship with God I
you know I was very I grew up very head
knowledge I guess you know I knew all
the right things to say I knew all the
Bible answers and all that stuff but I
wasn't living a life either that
reflected Jesus I didn't really know
what that looked like
so about four years ago I had gone
through almost five now I had gone
through a divorce I kind of had hit rock
bottom and I ended up through through my
family getting hooked up with this
deliverance ministry and they had prayed
for me and all I knew was I found some
kind of truth I knew that something
shifted when they prayed for me and I'd
never felt that before I'd never felt
anything before that I that I recognized
had knowledge the whole time it was just
like yes I believe in I go to church in
well that's what I thought
now looking back I know I was tormented
like crazy I felt a whole lot but it
wasn't good you know and so I had no
recognition no words no no understanding
of anything I was just kind of being
thrown all my life but that was the
first time I had felt something shift
something moved I don't know how to
explain it I just knew this is truth
there's truth here and I'm gonna do
anything I can to find more of that so I
did I just started
run it I knew it was Jesus but I knew it
was deeper than I had ever known and so
I just started praying I didn't even
know how to really pray other than the
stuff that I had heard but I just
started it was a true desire that woke
up in my heart to just know more and to
know truth and God is awesomely faithful
and he just he was you know you're up
for the journey let's go no I did I
everything moves so fast I started just
running after him in any way that I
could I would pray constantly I would
worship I would listen to music I would
read the Bible whatever I didn't know
what to do and within the year though I
ended up going out to California and I
went to Bethel school of supernatural
discipleship which is a sister school to
the well-known ministry school in
Redding and met up with a whole bunch of
other people in the same Road that just
were super hungry for more in anyway and
I spent three years out there and I've
been back here about a year now so it's
been a crazy wild ride they got deeper
with the whole deliverance thing huh
yeah yeah so I mean like up up until
that point like like like what what
happened there like was that like the
baptism of the Holy Spirit was a evil
spirits that subsided and generational
curses like what actually happened
because for me there was like two
notable moments in my life one was when
I gave my life to Christ right and it
was so much freedom that came and maybe
the joy came later that the joy came
whenever I went through deliverance
ministry myself and there was so much
other things that just like the layers
of the onion just got rid of so much
more and it was like foundational for me
to go through that so what was it for
you like going through the deliverance
ministry was it like heard and triggers
what would all got dealt with going
through that well
I'll kind of lead up to that um I had
dealt with you know I was diagnosed with
bipolar disorder
and I had dealt with a lot of even
visions and everything and I would see
spiritual things in the physical realm
never good
very scary terrifying ever since I was a
teenager ever since I could really
remember and just constant torment I
didn't know anything other than
depression I didn't know depression
anxiety just this constant turmoil on
the inside and and then you know with
all the life events that happen and then
right after that divorce it was just
like it was a slam to the bottom and you
know I was suicidal I was you were
experiencing all this depression but you
know that doesn't matter
it depends on what you're aligning with
and what you're allowing - what you're
agreeing with you know and a lot of it
just comes out of ignorance we don't
know that we're agreeing we just are
kind of tossed by everything that's
thrown at us instead of standing up and
realizing we actually have authority
over it so when I went I was actually on
the road and I hadn't my mom and I are
very close her and I had had kind of an
argument and I had been just trying so
hard to be a better person I just wanted
to be a nice person that everybody liked
because everybody hated being around me
and and I asked her I'm just like mom
you know do you think I'm a positive
person and she said honey you want me to
be honest with you Lord Jesus you're not
and that sent me just like I can't even
describe the emotions like it was just
the ultimate hopelessness but it's what
I needed in that moment I didn't talk to
her for two days I was literally on the
road to work and I was fighting I was
terrified at this point because I was
fighting not to drive off the road it
was like those things had caved in so
much all the thoughts
there I knew I didn't want to die but it
was almost overpowering yeah and she had
been calling me and calling me and
finally I described the phone and
answered because I knew was my only
lifeline and and she said that you know
her old pastoral mentor did a different
kind of prayer than I was used to and
she said I really feel like this is what
you need and and I knew that that was my
only chance it was either that or I was
dead so we went that night and it was
all of the above you know we
he had me renounce a lot of things that
I had agreed with and I didn't even know
I had agreed with him I'm like I've
never done any but I just didn't
understand the term now I didn't
understand what was happening to me so
I'm like anything and I just started
renouncing I just wanted freedom I just
wanted to be free and I figured it was a
shot in the dark and and then he he did
a lot of Prayer and breaking off and
generational stuff and all kinds of
things and all I remember is afterward I
was so uncalled for I didn't know what
that was and it was almost scary and
uncomfortable but it was like the voices
are gone it's so quiet in here
it was just night and day difference
even my countenance changed my skin
color changed yeah you just look
different get there something about you
it's a glow it's my aura my face was
brighter my eyes look different that's
awesome because like when we was going
through like deliverance ministry there
was a couple that we're really close
with an older couple and they were I
think one of the guys who discipled me
went through it he had breakthrough his
sister went through it had breakthrough
so me and my wife before we got married
went through it
because they were gonna marry us but
they were like we want you to go through
this first and kind of know what you're
getting into and make sure you're not
bringing all of this stuff into the
marriage like all kind of stuff like
that so we went through the deliverance
ministry and it was powerful you know
and it really meant a lot and still does
mean a lot to me to this day and we
would go to churches and stuff and like
that our home Church particularly one
guy got up there I don't if they caught
wind
I think they caught wind that we were
going to like another ministry that get
to get ministered and ministered to so
they like addressed it from the pulpit
it was like once you come to the cross
all of that stuff is dead that enemy has
no he can't touch you and all you know
there's all this stuff and he's like
some people who are trying to go through
ministry and go through the litany he
had the whole church laughing at
deliverance ministry you don't believe
in Jesus and it was just it was
humiliating you know and it's been
several times like that pastors to get
wind and then they mention it from the
pulpit and it's like man something so
precious to us you know that really
changed us man and they would just laugh
at it but I mean you've just a prime
example it's not like the cross is like
the beginning right and it's everything
it flows through the door the cross
right the gate as the Scriptures would
call it but it doesn't just accepting
Jesus it doesn't mean everything's okay
right like like you're not he's like I'm
gonna walk through it with you now it's
not like everything's okay it's gonna be
okay and I've got you you're not gonna
have to it's not that you're not gonna
face any troubles or hardships or storms
just like look I'm gonna be with you now
that you're going through this stuff and
you can always count on me so I can mean
your story mine and so many more people
just that the power of deliverance
ministry finding joy you know all of
that kind of stuff I would go into fits
of rage like somebody would say
something or I wouldn't get my way and I
would act like a baby and I would go
into like a little baby slow temper
tantrums I would do in the descriptions
call it a fifth fit of rage and it's a
fruit of the flesh and would you get to
deal with that these little triggers and
things that would just make you mad or
what
and you just react any type of way and
it's not according to the the fruit of
the Holy Spirit and you got to deal with
that stuff man so have you I don't know
like I know it doesn't mean anything but
it's have it was there any backlash or
whatever from like all you don't need
that or anything I mean anything like
that in fact the pastor that we went to
was muscled out of his own church years
before you know he had been pastor there
for decades and they just didn't want
anything to do with where he was going
in that you know they dealt with it and
you know the congregation the elder
bored and everything they were like okay
we're willing to go this far but as soon
as he started pushing further and going
deeper and just running into what scared
them
he was muscled out of his own church so
and a lot of that church body was also
our church Mackey so yeah there's I find
that even in the church I'm at right now
I can't even talk about half of what I
went through then much less where I am
now it is really hard to find people who
are on the you find very spiritual
people who don't have a relationship
with God at all and there's gold in that
there is truth in that but the truth is
missing yeah and then you have people
who have you know I see the cross as
you're standing at a door and you have
the truth in front of you walk through
it and find it now yeah you know the
cross is simply access to the whole
kingdom but most people stand at the
door and never walk in yeah yeah it's
not it's because they need deliverance
you know in it but it doesn't have to be
you know cry and scream and snot-nose
that did you go through that like is
that kind I didn't seen it and I think
that you're right I think that you know
there's definitely easy some of it's
easy you know and just but some of it is
carpet it's not and everything you know
sometimes that's the healing though too
you know I have gone through so Zoe's
and in her healings that word that look
like that yeah but it was more
everything in me coming out
you know wounds being healed in the
cleansing happening and it's messy but
that's and that's a whole different type
of I guess deliverance that's more of
that's more of not what's pressing but
what's been inside and held you know
yeah strongholds you know I mean that's
what these demons are demonic
strongholds that have told you ungodly
beliefs about yourself that you believe
I'm worthless I'm stupid I'll always be
broke I'll never find a good man you
know what I'm saying like all of these
weird things that you just agree with or
even like it turns into prejudices all
you know all these people are that I you
know just whatever like all black people
are gonna rob me are all white people
are racist you know what I'm saying
these different beliefs that you receive
in a in that but they're ungodly they're
not true but to you it becomes true so
even though it's a lie
so casting off demons right these
thought forms and imaginations can be as
practical as us having this conversation
and correcting some doctrinal beliefs or
some lies that you've been told and so
just being intentional with the
conversation that happens you know and
there's scriptural backing and examples
where that's happened and in testimonies
we get like crazy right people's like
man never knew that and man so much
freedom just do a conversation with
someone I mean but then again there's
that deep inner stuff that you go
through as well so there's different
levels to it but um for me it's like as
far as like the New Age of spiritual
community just people who aren't like
well we are in Christ or whatever they
don't really have that foundation but
they still have the fruit because they
are walking in a level of love that's
supernatural and in and of itself like
Jesus right so when I like talking about
Christ and talking about or even saying
God because I go on a lot of new-age
shows or spiritual shows where they're
not really I'm considered religious or
whatever the case is but I like to still
keep some of the terminology because it
triggers them like and it triggers them
because maybe their uncle was a pastor
and they rejected them or their parents
were they grew up in church and now the
mention of Jesus reminds them of
you know not being accepted or whatever
just having this bad view of God or
Christ because of someone else you know
so it's it's dealing with those triggers
like why D why when I say God do you get
mad why would you rather me say universe
like I think God is all of that but why
is there why don't why do you cringe
when I say God or why do you trans when
I say Jesus I'm so going to that point
of pain even for those people you know
what I'm saying and wanting to know why
they can't do that and so through what I
do on the podcast and my music has been
something that was able to bridge the
gap for a lot of people who are Church
her and they've abandoned Christ they're
still spiritual but they didn't been
abandoned Christ because of Christ they
did it because of their church or their
parents or whoever man you know what I'm
saying so it's just like bringing that
like the scripture says that we have the
Ministry of reconciliation reconciling
you back to the father look he loves you
his thoughts are continually upon you to
bless you to prosper you he wants to
hang out with you so embodying that and
in the deliverance as well just from
those ungodly beliefs you know and that
in there's levels to it though you know
it gets deeper and deeper and deeper as
you know yeah and that's that's one
thing I didn't understand I'm like oh
good I'm free I'm done no you're free to
now go run and conquer these things
because you know and I was actually just
talking with my my mom again about this
I said the funny thing is everything
that I and I'm and I'm gonna say this as
well
I'm not bipolar I found that everything
I was experiencing was actually feeling
the spiritual and feeling what other
people are going through
it's a spiritual gift but so I told her
I said you know I actually I didn't stop
feeling those things I didn't get rid of
bipolar it actually enhanced it I feel
those things stronger now than I ever
did before the difference is I can see
what it is and I have an understanding I
have a grid so those things don't go
away
we just gain understanding and we learn
what to fight and how to fight
yeah that's why I wanted to ask you
shout out to Christie thank you for the
nation my friend Christie folks um
so being able to see like seeing all of
this stuff in the spirit realm and guess
as you were a kid and you know younger
and you started seeing a lot of it was
dark demonic stuff you know now that
you're on this side of deliverance right
not even the cross you were probably
still having that those weird encounters
with demons and dark weird thoughts as a
Christian right but on this side of
deliverance even like being able to see
in the spirit how was that changed are
you still seeing demons and you just
know how to interact with them now you
know what they are or are you seeing in
the spirit but it's lofty things like
angels and nature spirits or anything of
like higher vibrational entities like
are you still able to see but now you
can see clearer now you when I say a
clairvoyant you see with clear vision
you know well I saw a lot in the
physical when I I think the last time I
saw anything spiritual in the physical
realm you know because there's different
ways of seeing I see in the spirit a lot
but I feel like and I know that fear
shut down that gate of being able to see
a lot of that spiritual stuff actually
in this realm where it doesn't look like
there's any difference whatsoever and it
used to be only demonic that's all I
ever saw in the physical realm to be
honest I haven't seen anything else in
the physical realm but I've seen in the
spirit ever since the deliverance I've
been able to engage that and it is
getting stronger it is opening up I
think we every child I really believe
can see but at some point the fear Gate
shuts it down you know they're scared at
some point a night terror or they see
something that or a parents say it is
real any any number of things and and it
gets shut down very easily so I'm kind
of in a journey to open that back up but
I do see a lot of things in the spirit
the crazy thing is I don't see the
darkness I feel it I sense it but I
don't see it very often yeah
if at all I
see a lot of angelic I see a lot of
heavenly creatures which by the way can
be confused but they're very much odd
spirit you know um drag and looking
things and whatnot but I see a lot of
that stuff but it's all it's all God
because I'm so focused on keeping my
eyes on him that the darkness can't get
in that line a bit yeah man it's like
what's like so I was into like dark
witchcraft like trying to make covenants
with demons and cut myself and drinking
blood like we did all types of
wickedness and I would do all of these
rituals because I wanted to tap in
because I had an encounter where
something crossed over into the physical
realm an entity manifests it physically
it wasn't in the spirit I didn't see it
or just sense it spiritually this Joker
popped into this reality it looked like
an 8-foot tall camel we stole something
from a witch and he put a hex on us and
he ran past us knocked us to the ground
me and my cousin both freaked out you
know you would think that it was like
okay stay away from that and it stuffs
dangerous but for me I was like no this
stuff is real and I can get good like
he's gotten good and I can some of these
entities myself you know so I ended up
getting into some really deep dark
witchcraft and going I end up going
schizophrenic yeah as a teenager I was
15 16 years old I couldn't look nobody
in the eyes hearing voices speak to me
and just my health started to
deteriorate started there was like a
spirit of hypochondria like every
disease I heard I thought I had it like
it was an overwhelming sensation brain
tumor brain cancer testicular cancer
like anything I heard on the television
I thought I had it and it was just
overwhelming you're gonna die and just
like it was demonic you know and and I
needed to call out for help call it out
for Christ because I had been a
Christian a few years before God saved
me came back into my life filled me with
the Holy Spirit and that was back in
2000 so from in so there was spiritual
warfare still coming out of that
darkness I want to live
I want to love but it's a long hard road
out of hell like there's some things you
have to go through that that still want
to hang on and but going through
deliverance totally helped right so much
that fell off at the cross but that
deliverance would really seal the deal
for me and so when we do engage the
demonic like I sense them and see them
and things like that and it's usually
pulling them off of people to helping
other people go through stuff or if I
unconfessed sin in my life or there's
things that I like idolatry the Lord
says stay away from and I'm like nope I
want it more you know there's like this
weird realms of darkness that you kind
of lurk in and you got to confess it and
get out of it as fast as possible like
idolatry or anything like that and so
but on this side of all of that I've
only encountered like beautiful things
like and it's like you know Christians
are like looking for like demons behind
every corner which I believe they're
they're out there right but for me like
meditation traveling in the spirit are
you gonna get you're gonna get possessed
don't don't don't meditate you're gonna
get possessed you hear all these weird
things but like whatever you this is
this is just how it works for me like
whatever whatever level that you're
vibrating at in the spirit realm you're
gonna encounter those beings when you're
deep in prayer when you're meditating
when you're doing whatever like those
are the type of entities that are around
you your time of vibrational frequencies
and things like that if you're for me I
was robbing people I was in gang
activity I was smoking and drinking and
doing all types of wickedness and when I
tapped into the spirit realm they said
hello I reached them they reached back
now I'm trying my best to do good deeds
and have alms and spending time with the
Lord when I tap in it's beautiful
beautiful encounters I don't have to
worry about getting possessed he's a
good father he you know I know these
truths and he's these ungodly beliefs
can't tap into my psyche because I've
been there like I've been to the point
of the breaking point of schizophrenia
and those demons I know what they're
like so when I tap in now it's all
beautiful lofty things like you're
saying even though they may not come as
a beautiful woman with
wings and white pink or alike they may
look like a serpent they may look like a
squid you know what I'm saying it can so
to think that it's gonna be like we've
perceived it in that realm I wish they
did this scary it's a fearful a fearful
thing I mean look at the four living
beings and a different they scared
people what you like they scare people
man I'm telling you and uh just anything
supernatural outside of the box this is
weird and scary right so uh what about
for you so like you don't really is that
kind of your story - I feel like it's
just like a universal almost you know
like you don't do bad stuff you don't
have to worry about getting possessed or
those demons messing with you
there's still spiritual warfare though
right yeah absolutely and I think that
kind of goes with what you know what I
was gonna talk about actually um you
know a while ago I was just like I'm you
know why did I keep doing this thing and
that thing whatever and I don't want to
do this as a sign of my heart to do this
but it's just you know habits or things
that you gravitate toward or whatever
and any some I'm so not concerned with
what you do but while you're doing it so
he said let's let's shift your focus
you're trying to not do bad things and
you're trying to do good things and
you're trying to do this and do that he
goes I don't care about what you do I
care about what's in your heart search
my heart and so probably for the last
year every time I sit on the first thing
I do is I just I'm like God I don't care
if I experience anything I don't care if
I see anything I just want to align more
with your heart no we not one and I want
to come into more revelation and reality
of that and I found that you know it
seems so basic but love but when we
actually learn to align our frequency
with the frequency of love because the
frequency of love is God and we are one
with God things shift
that's what manifests the difference and
you
don't end up doing the things that you
don't want to do in the first place it's
it's it's a deeper aligning than
correcting actions I guess integrity
you can try to not steal something but
how about you correct the thing inside
of you that wants to steal it in the
first place align that with the father
aligned our hearts with integrity
actually brings forth reward it's not
just a I think I think I know for me and
I'm sure I'm not the only person but
it's more like keep yourself under wraps
and it's a discipline thing but it's
really not it's recognizing the reward
of the things we're aligning with the
reward of integrity is promotion and
it's big of true generosity it's not
about giving a homeless man a hundred
bucks on the street you can do that out
of greed you can do that out of I want
to look good but if you're doing it from
the standpoint of I want to bless you
now let me sit and have a conversation
with you too because I want to hear your
heart that is a heart of generosity and
it will never go unrewarded
so aligning our hearts with the actual
standard of God and in the father's
heart begins to open up and unlock all
these doors in our lives and they will
manifest and the things that we want to
experience the cool spiritual encounters
the you know I I've had multiple
encounters especially in worship I mean
I met Enoch in the spirit I lots of
angels and and it's always been in
worship when I'm just God I just want to
know your heart that's it
hours of diving and I just want to know
your heart and I want your heart and I
want ours to be one and that is it and
these things just start to unlock so
that's good so you essentially seek seek
to seek the father and you get the
experiences versus seeking the
experiences for for just to be wooed I
want to talk about that things will be
added yep exactly there's so much more
week if we can go into and I want to ask
you to we're gonna take a quick
two-minute break and on the other side I
want to talk to you about meeting Enoch
I want to talk to you about
with some of these other weird entities
you've encountered look like so we'll
take a quick two-minute break and we'll
be right back guys
so the encountering Jesus the hem of His
garment meditation man if you guys are
familiar with the story in the Bible
with the woman with the issue of blood
you're pretty much coming at it from her
perspective so you translate it back to
ancient Jerusalem 2000 years ago and
you're walking through the streets
now there's ambience we have voice
actors and all of these things that
you're encountering people walking
through the streets and as you're moving
through the crowded streets there's
things on the left and on the right
they're trying to get your attention
there's vendors trying to sell you
things there's groups of ladies that you
meet who are trying to pull you off the
road they're trying to gossip about you
you see all of this stuff going on but
you see Jesus straight ahead and you're
just trying to focus on Jesus with all
of these different distractions that are
coming and the different distractions
that I put in there was something that
God translated to me that people were
dealing with and some of it was stuff
that I have conquered in my own life
that I was able just to kind of start
rolling with it when the Lord told me to
go there but it's dealing with gossip
it's dealing with slander backbiting
inconsistency and getting pulled off the
path so as you're going through the
meditation you're being ministered to
for some of these areas in your life
that we've all struggled with so again
you're pushing further you see Jesus
ahead of you just know that all you got
to do is get close to him everybody's
fighting for his attention and you just
know you just got to get close enough
just to say hello just close to enough
if he can see me I've just got to touch
him
and so you go in and I don't want to
give it away but you go in and you
encounter the love of Christ you
encounter Jesus he ministers to you and
it's just this beautiful encounter that
you have and it's about 16 minutes but
as you have this encounter I've also
created these meditations so that you
can just kind of keep going as you go in
you're already deep into the trance
State you can kind of keep going with
the encounter so the music continues to
go for an hour
so this testimonies about people who are
going in and they're encountering Jesus
they're encountering God they're
encountering angels and really just
getting downloads from the father's
heart for their self so I urge you to
check it out the encountering Jesus the
hem of His garment meditation and I
guarantee that you'll be blessed from
checking it out
a man you heard the man
Trucy good comm check out the new
meditations that I just came out with
god bless your life
Enoch counter we hear a lot about this
and and uh I've never encountered a
saint right or one who is caught like a
person I don't think I've ever
encountered a person in the spirit was
it of a vision or was it really him how
does that work so I'll have visions
which are more like thoughts and screens
and it's kind of like if you imagine
something and then this was an actual
encounter where like my eyes were open
and I could see him in the spirit but
wasn't fully in the physical it's almost
like an in-between type seeing I don't
know how to describe it really so I
actually I don't even know how I knew
well I know how I knew who he was but
like I had never seen it before I just
knew it was ina and um I had been
worshiping for about two hours just on
my own in a little I was in the prayer
room at at our church and I just had my
own phone music going and I was laid out
for a while I don't know there was just
a lot happening but all of a sudden that
i sat up I was on my knees and um and I
looked ahead and I felt this this wave
come in the room and it was a man and he
knelt down in front of me and he said
I'm anak and he put his hand on I was
like because it was so real I knew it
wasn't in the physical I knew it was
from the heavens but he was right in
front of me and he put his hand on my
heart but it went into my heart and with
like deeper and he said I impart to you
all my knowledge and when he said
knowledge I knew that it was more than
more than head it was being knowledge
like the knowledge of his being and what
he walked in yeah um things that he
discovered through relationship and
that's when a lot of actually a lot of
this passion to know the father's heart
came it started just igniting and I
started realizing you know the focus has
to be that Enoch gained what he gained
and lived the way he lived and never
died because he walked so closely with
the father he walked so closely with God
they were one and in reality we are one
but we don't always we don't live like
we're one yet with the father and so I
guess you know my priorities after that
just it was like thoughts started to
change immediately
revelations started coming and it was a
crazy shift I mean I felt it in the
moment but even hours after and the next
day and the next day was like
perspectives just started to shift and
change and it's crazy
body when he touched you'd like was
there electricity was there screaming
you know what I'm saying cuz no it was
just just like peaceful in there knowing
or it was I felt it but you know how if
you do you ever get like just waves of
holy spirit through your whole body and
it kind of like almost weakens you for a
second that's what it felt like but it
was localized it was localized right
where his hand was it was like a mild
push back but then it shot through and
and it tripped me out it happened so
fast but it tripped me out cuz what I
thought he was just putting his hand on
my heart but that went in but it was it
was like all of a sudden I could see in
the spirit how deep my heart was and it
was infinite and he went all like she
was way past where my body would have
been and wow it was it was a really cool
life-changing experience it's
interesting like you know we know
Christianity or the religion of Christ
and the disciples and prophets right
comes from the east
it was a spiritual practice I believe
one of the top spiritual practices I
think we have a one-up on everybody it's
beautiful right
and there's a lot of things in the Bible
the spirit travel we're talking about
divine healing speaking with angels
downloads like dreams and visions and
interpretations about where to go who to
talk to who to go into business with
like all just crazy stuff that was going
on in the Bible um and it comes from the
east right and so an Eastern thought
Eastern philosophy a lot of the Eastern
religions that they kind of practice
this stuff mostly like we would say
Hinduism or something like that maybe
even Buddhism Eastern thought was that
your ancestors or your teachers even
ancestors maybe more of the like Native
American terminology but your teachers
right the person who taught you your
your teacher your your your guru
whatever who trained you up spiritually
that disciples you that mentored you
when they pass they believe that they
continue to teach you from beyond the
grave you know and so we hear people
like you and a lot of other people were
being more vocal about this who are
having encounters with saints even some
people talk about prophets that raised
them up even who who lived 15 years ago
you know and who have just passed who
are visiting people and these are
Christians are coming up saying yes he
visited me and he imparted knowledge to
me and told me what to do and like in
there being more vocal about it even
though it seems kind of fringy and only
because it's in westernized religious
christianity and what it's become it
started out as a spiritual practice in
the east and it's turned into a religion
in the West right and it looks very
strange the closer we get read the Bible
and get to true Christianity of a
spiritual practice and stuff you know
our view of God gets a lot bigger I
think from like you maybe where you saw
it he said you had it all figured out
it's about you know head knowledge and
knowing how to quote scripture or
whatever but now it's just like I know
nothing I know a lot but I know nothing
at the same time I'm still learning you
know and then we look at Jesus which is
a beautiful example right
the Mount of Transfiguration I feel like
it's a like if we had a camera and we
got to follow Jesus to where he goes
when he prays Jesus would go into a
mountain or on top of a mountain
who does that when they pray Buddhist
monks and Hindus they'll go into you
know in Tibet on top of the mountains
and help fast and pray or they'll go
literally go inside the ground right and
inside of a mountain and they'll
meditate for hours Jesus was doing that
and so we get a picture of what he was
doing while he prayed for hours not just
Lord I pray for the disciples I pray you
just work on their hearts God and just
bring him to a closer and like he would
I'm sure that was happening he's doing
some intercession but when we got to see
we literally got to see an amount of
Transfiguration Jesus's body transform
he appeared in all white linen to begin
to glow and then Enoch and Elijah knows
Moses and Elijah right most Moses and
Elijah appeared to him and started
speaking to him and then the disciples
seen it it was like they were freaked
out so like that's really like one
example I feel like he was always doing
that I felt like I feel like that wasn't
normal for him and he's bidding the
disciples look come away and pray with
me man I got some things I want to even
Tony said look I got some things I want
to show you but y'all aren't ready for
it yet and now you're coming into this
deeper revelation even you and me and so
many other people and you like man I
don't even know who I could talk to
about this they don't think I'm crazy
when I tell them there's squid entities
that appear and you know but they're
good guys and they just exist and they
have a job to do and you know what I'm
saying and some of the deeper realms of
the kingdom which have been revealed to
the sons and daughters just like
transcending what we've been told over
the years but it's biblical like all of
the stuff is in the scriptures they
encountered it so have you um was this a
one-time encounter with Enoch some
people like they have meetings they
continually go back or or whether
they're intentional now say hey Lord can
I meet with him again does he have some
more to show me or is there another
saint that comes where do you go from
there is it a one-time experience or is
this
you practice so I would love to get for
it to be more than a long time I have a
lot of questions but I also know God
knows the answers to the questions too
so I'm patient
that was the only time I met him I'm
hoping for more I'd also like to meet
Paul for sure and I'd love to meet with
more of the Saints and I really do think
that that's important I think that
there's been this there's been this
stigma in the Christian realm that even
talking with angels is like angel
worship or talking with the Saints you
don't do that but I don't understand why
not you know me talking to you is not
worshiping you and the angels are here
to help us and the Saints are our family
it's no different than talking to them
when they were in this realm they're
just not in this realm primarily anymore
so once I broke that kind of fear off
and mentality and started you know God
started recalibrating that even I
haven't met with any others well-known
Saints but after that my grandmother
died
and I saw her and spoke to her my cousin
died last December and she and I were so
close and God let me see her and talk
with her again only once but they
they're still part of our family
you know and we need to we talk with
other people like you and I are right
now about what we know we want to gain
things you want to gain experiences and
and just hear other perspectives so why
wouldn't we do that with the ones that
walk with Jesus yeah so I haven't had
like the encounters with the Saints but
I've had encounters with all types of
other entities right and light beings
and stars and moving stars and ascending
and traveling back and forth from heaven
to earth and had some beautiful
encounters with that and I've it wasn't
that like I got in summoned them like I
wanted to have it I wanted to go deeper
and just learn it's but it all came
through the Father God if they're out
there if they travel back and forth
if they're not too busy can I see one
right and then I was like you fasting in
prayer and I really wanted to know but
he's like okay son you want to know let
me show you let me blow your mind
Jeremiah 33:3 you callin to me ask i
will show you great and mighty things
that you do not know and cannot find out
and i believe that their secrets of the
scriptures obviously is something most
of the stuff is lost this does not it's
coming back right with this next stage
or whatever a lot of stuffs coming back
and then more is added but there's like
I believe there's things in in the in
the spirit that people have never
encountered before or maybe they've
encountered just been too much
persecution even talked about it you
know what I'm saying that God has not
shown anyone that he's willing to show
the sons and daughters if you ask
he's like itching he wants to hang out
he's like a friend man you know he's not
just like this supreme deity that's not
personable like he does like he's not so
far away that he can't hear you or or
his hands not not long enough that he
can't reach down and and and you know
not just help us but fellowship with us
you know and so coming out of that like
I've had an angelic encounters but I've
also had a lot of deep encounters with
Jesus right so I haven't had with the
Saints but Jesus have shown up and come
you know just change the room you know
and all kind of things like that and
it's so weird like if we talk about like
the Apostle Paul he takes trips trips
and stuff back and forth to heaven and
he comes back and he says look like I've
seen things that it's not permissible
for men to speak about I don't think
that it wasn't permissible I think that
you sounds silly trying to explain it
especially because you know let's just
be let's just be real like there's no
it's not matter up there like it doesn't
like we it doesn't look like us a lot of
people have visions and see things and
they see a man and look at clothes and
white and like there's energy is
vibration it's it's advanced complex
geometric patterns
yeah and you if you start coming at me
like okay what would you see what it'd
look like would it sound like tones but
the tones those telepathic tones that
gave me information about the past I was
like what the hell I get so nervous cuz
there aren't words to describe that it's
a different there needs to be new words
yeah we do a bad job and I think that's
what Paul was referring to I was think
is that he can't or it's not permissible
like I can't tell you you just have to
figure it like it's like you have to
experience it and especially now we're
talking about like the doctrinal stuff
and like proof to me scripturally okay
we can but still you're not you're gonna
you already have a preconceived notion
about what that means because of your
upbringing or because of your prejudice
or whatever you have to encounter this
you have yeah but in its and you can
we're not special we're not privy to
information that you want if you want it
it's here for you that's the testimony
God is not a respecter of persons so
people who want to like they don't they
don't believe it until they've
experienced it but that's good I think
that's good I think there's a sense of
like you know I'm saying optimism there
and like you know people give like you
know I'm saying doubting Thomas a bad
rap I love I loved he wanted to see it
he said hold on our Savior was just
crucified and he told y'all that many
would come in his name saying that they
were him and the first guy who showed up
y'all saying it's him
I wanna I'm not gonna believe that it's
him until I see the holes in his hands
y'all show me I'm just gonna follow any
dude who look like him and you know talk
like him because you know he's told us
many would come and he wanted to see the
holes and he's like I want to see for
myself and that's a beautiful prayer God
showed me don't say true seekers show me
don't say freedom show me God show me go
up under the stars go into meditation
Lord whatever you have for me not what
you got for them what do you have for me
that you haven't shown anybody right
show me
our stories can build testimony they can
build faith for a testimony but these
are our testimonies these are our our
journey and you know I would hope that
nobody goes out and said I want exactly
what they have I mean people have time
traveled and teleported and yes I want
to experience those things I'm like the
realm has been opened up that it's a
reality I want that but I want it in my
journey I want it in timing I wanted it
through relationship and God you know
when that's available
I fully believe it but experience
transforms and you can't you know I grew
up my whole life like I set up two up to
five years ago believing but belief
didn't do anything for me until I
experienced so I think like you said I
think experience it is it's a cracks
open the door to the reality your faith
gives gives way to a belief or your
belief gives way to faith that you
believe in the unseen right that's faith
believing in things you can't see in and
uh so you have faith in God but now when
you go through the dark night and you
have these encounters and God shows up
you got I say you quit believing in God
you can't you quit quit having faith in
God now I know him I know God
let's not know if ands or buts like I
know the creator of the universe he's my
friend he loves me
he's got me I'm here for a reason my
steps are ordered by him the steps of
the righteous are ordered by the Lord
everywhere I've been through everywhere
that I'm gonna go good bad ugly with
terminology to explain it does it matter
I'll follow him I follow his voice in
the midst of the wilderness and so to
trust that and say okay god I'm open
like you know whatever you have for me
he'll give you a level of discernment
and opening that up man it's uh it's
it's next level for a lot of people but
there's a freedom and a peace that comes
with that you know I don't think there's
any limits really you know because it
was going back to what you were saying
you were saying that it wasn't what
you're doing it's how or why you're
doing it right I have a lot of people
who good friends who I would love
validation from people who have
grew me up in the Lord right and
discipled me early on they don't like
what I'm doing you know I'm promoting
this year you have New Agers on your
show and spirituality and you're not you
know they don't like it but it's not
this isn't what God's called them to do
this is what he's called me to do and I
know I know who I am
and and the depths of that we want
validation but you know we're validated
by the Father so having those encounters
and stuff man it really changes
everything and it's the intention behind
it they might not be able to see the
intention Jesus went out whenever he
went to the cross he says Father forgive
them for they know not what they do and
then Paul kind of echoes that and says
look there's people who are doing things
and the most high is not going to judge
them according to his righteousness
because they don't even know what
they're doing they don't even know so
there's that they're doing it they may
be doing the wrong thing but for the
right reason like their intentions are
good like they're trying their best
Reiner heart is so intention is the key
to all of this stuff it unlocks it like
your intention like what do you want to
accomplish do you want to have a crazy
encounter for the sake of an encounter I
think you can I think there's many
different ways that you can facilitate
that but having that encounter it
changes who you are you know I'm saying
in for your intentions behind it and and
you can feel that right we're talking
about vibrational frequencies you can
feel intentions on people why they're
doing it I mean I hate it I mean it's
hard for me to even like a lot of
pastors that I can't I know I know why
like I can know their intention like
they're saying they say in a good sermon
but I was like man I know the
terminology manages there's so much to
it you know you can yep yeah then that's
kind of what I was saying like even even
some of the best-looking people the good
doers you know we can be doing a lot of
good things that are that appear good
with an ugly heart and then there's a
lot of people that look really scary to
the
to the church people who do things that
are they look worldly but what's the
intention you know where is that place
coming from it's just because they
haven't seen it before you know what I'm
saying and they're not called to that
and you know that's what it that's what
it comes down to you know let me ask you
about this so you're a worship leader at
your charge right yeah what is so you
know we talked about vibrational
frequencies and complex geometry I
mentioned color healing and lights and
things like that set of an aesthetic for
for all of that because it's the same
thing what what happens during worship
you know there's a lot just music in
itself is powerful but what about like
singing over people prophetically do you
you practice that like what are what
it's like for people who like I don't
really like Christian music is this
cheesy and corny like what's the for you
why do you do it like what happens
spiritually when you listen to worship
music or or sing over people and lead
people that worship so there's a lot of
different elements right now worship
leading at my church is very I mean I've
been in a place personally where I can
tap in deeper but the congregation is
just not there in fact our church
doesn't even operate in prophesying and
all that stuff which has been very
difficult to be where I'm at and then
the realm the circle that I'm in and
then lead in in this way but it's what
I'm called to right now and so with that
element I mean I see a lot of things to
be honest when I when I lead right now I
see a lot of warfare in the spirit and
there's a lot of breaking there's a lot
of kicking open doors and then waiting
for the dust to settle till the next
time because it does create an uproar
personally in my worship though when
it's just me and God nobody else there's
a lot of a lot of difference and I and I
do sing over people I love to sing over
people usually just melodies not
necessarily words but there
melodies that you know I always usually
seen this free experience I don't have
any prepared songs or anything like that
I love singing in tongues
there's just I've I've experienced a lot
of healings I actually had kind of
recorded something on my phone I usually
when I'm worshiping I'll just hit record
on my phone I'll let it go and clip it
later and I had layered one with three
different harmonies because I I just
there was something really powerful and
in one point of worship and it was just
singing in tongues and I had listened to
it over and over and over and I'm like
there is a harmony to this different
frequencies something else will be
released so I sang a harmony in the same
same tongue same everything and then
toward the end I laid it in a third one
and I've actually I put it out on
Facebook but I sent it to a few friends
too and three people said the pain in my
back left my friend had been having
shoulder and arm problems and she was
looking at going in for surgery
immediately healed and she hasn't had
problems since so I experienced a lot of
healings when I sing over people but
usually when it's in person I see a lot
of inner healing emotional healing but I
love using that's actually one of my
favorite ways of deliverance it is a
form of deliverance
well yeah it's happenin to worship and
uh just awesome you say they're just
like healing during during worship and
there's fullness of joy right the Bible
says that the Lord inhabits the praises
of his people so if you want God to show
up to start talking about him and just
start singing - all right Oh sing to the
people you know you can sing over the
people but like look let's lavish the
love on the father he's gonna show up
and he'll create an atmosphere for us to
minister for us to move the woody and so
you said you see warfare I know that's
hard that's tricky we had a hip-hop
group it was it was it was a hip-hop
worship project called until Shiloh
comes we got a couple songs recorded but
um very much so prophetic and I would do
the hip-hop and sing and my buddy would
play the guitar and sing as well and we
would go into places and they would want
to
I just listen don't look at us this
isn't a concert you guys have to tap in
and if you want it it's here for you but
don't if you're looking at for a show
you've come to the wrong place but um so
that but so when people would engage
that with you and say okay let me just
happen let me just close my eyes and let
them sing over me and where we would go
in the spirit they would have their
lives change and encounter a deeper
realm of God's glory and so but for that
we would go to places like he want like
he it was funny but he was working for a
call center my buddy and they had like
it like everybody graduated their class
to go out on the floor right you had
went to a class together to work at this
call center and they had did like a
talent show and they had pizza and stuff
and it's like hey man let's come up here
and let's do some music like so we went
to his the graduation of his call center
class he's like alright so we kind of we
just were sitting in these chairs and
they're all wearing suits it's a yeah
you got a you have to dress nice though
you can't do it's like huh man and we
kind of just tell them look this is what
we do we just love Jesus and we're just
gonna sing if you close your eyes and
just tap in and it's hard cuz you're
like these people don't know what we're
doing and it really hot we have to set
the mood we have to change the
atmosphere but we were able to go in and
then we close our eyes and I rap with my
eyes closed and we worship with Oscars
and open our eyes and just people are
just weeping man you know and they're
just like man that was just so beautiful
and it just reminds them nope you know
it just does different things for
different people right might remind
somebody who's kind of far from God
where they used to be or maybe someone
who's never encountered the presence of
Jesus which show up there in the midst
of that right and but it's hard when you
got like people are just like let's see
what they're gonna you know is the hold
on go in that needs help you know it can
make it hard but uh yeah worships
powerful man and singing over people
singing in tongues here's a here's an
idea have you ever tried to interpret
some of those lyrics as easy as
breaking them down in syllables tongues
are usually in these different syllables
right very similar to Hebrew but you can
well I've been writing down some of the
things that I would repeat those you
know things you know they'll just come
up I'll write them down and then type
them in on Google Translate and their
messages that come through like
literally in a language that's spoken on
the earth have you ever tried that
that's a very interesting you know I've
asked for translation because I notice
even in a lot of the songs that I've had
read that I I've just captured on my
phone and and I hear when I speak in
tongues
so there's certain words or certain
phrases that I say often
mm-hm and I've asked for translation but
I never thought to type it into Google
mostly probably because I don't know to
spell it but you know you can play it do
you do have to play around with it yeah
syllables especially if you don't know
what language it is you know and how
long know but mine was a Filipino it
came back Filipino like every time I do
it it's like the same language and it's
really interesting because like like I'm
getting the names of angels I'm a
message for Humanity and it's always
something beautiful for Humanity we're
here to help we're here to serve I want
to meet with you it was one that there
was one that was like I desire candle
light like that was a you know some like
in personal sessions with people that I
would go in I'd get into trance state
and start speaking in tongues and I
would just write those syllables down
and say give me a moment and I go to my
translate it's like I'm going through
this with you apparently there's a an
angel by the name of this that that
wants you to light candles like it's um
it's interesting stuff right we're just
engaging it by the spirit but see a lot
of times we may not have the
interpretation of like a message or in
English even but we know when there's a
feeling that we feel as a vibrational
there's a there's an intention whether
it's warfare whether it's praise whether
it's a declaration and we
have the words to say so we start
speaking in tongues and it just kind of
like pushes that vibration out into the
atmosphere we feel this overwhelming
sense of love and we just release it and
you just let it go let it flow and it
just comes out of your spirit into the
people with that sound and frequency and
vibration rolling off your tongue and
creating it in their atmosphere so what
had like the deep the realms and things
that we tap into I've never read a book
on that you know what I'm saying I don't
know it's uncharted territory territory
for me we talk about it that's New Age
get it out of here you know I'm sure I'm
sure that you know there was tongues and
interpretations in the scriptures and
they had people on not on staff but they
had a community of people who were like
really good hey this guy can he
everything you speak he knows what
you're saying let's get him in that
utilize him this is the pastor this
guy's an apostle he's really good at
facilitating this person this person has
the Ministry of helps and is good at
setting stuff up and just having
everybody doing what they're good at
doing this person can sense Nieman's
let's get him here and everybody flowing
and that's like the church the body of
Christ moving in their spiritual
giftings and abilities to really see the
hand of God moving and I think the
churches that are embracing that they're
feeling far between a sentence maybe
growing a little bit more but they're
flourishing man I really do believe that
that's where the the early church was
founded upon the spiritual giftings and
the prophetic and things you know early
church is only the very very base and
beginning of where we're gonna go yeah I
love I feel like English words are when
we're trying cuz we're always trying to
formulate from our brain then you know I
think even if we're speaking in tongues
we may not be saying much but it's not
from our brain it's straight from the
spirit and I found that now when I sing
when I worship that way I literally I go
into an experience I dive into the
father's heart and I go into an
experience and I see what's happening
and I just opened my mouth and let it go
I'm not listening to the melody
I'm not formulating words I'm not
listening to the tongues that are being
spoken which is why I like to capture it
and record it
because when I play it back I'm like
whoa I didn't know that was happening
but it's releasing this experience or
releasing this concept if you know God
wants to heal or if you know God just
wants to touch somebody and you sing
over them you know I just dive into his
heart for that person and a lot of times
I'll just see visions and I'll sing the
visions or I'll sing the waves that are
coming from you know the waves of light
that are coming from his heart and and
that's hard to describe too but I think
you would understand singing light or
playing the notes of light or seeing
sound for that matter yeah so there's a
lot of people who are like and even
Christian now who are like embracing
tones and frequencies like there's
different tones that create a
vibrational frequency when you look at
this when you look at the cymatics of
the geometry that it forms when that
note or resonance is played it's a
pleasant geometric pattern and it makes
you because you and it can change the
shape of water where your body is like
70% water so when you heal those when
you hear those tones creating that
pleasant geometry it's doing that in
your body you can feel it so well it's
like meditation tones it's just owns on
a piano that's what I like
you hear like soft synth and it just
immediately oh man I feel better just
just from you holding that note and
people who were intentional just like
we're able to do it with the words and
and singing and speaking or wrapping in
my case just words the vibrational
frequencies people able to do it with
the piano right there pushing those
notes out of somebody prophetic I know
psalmist who they start playing the
piano or playing the guitar I went and
seen a group the other day Shane and
Shane I love them and their music means
the world to me and as soon as they
start playing the guitar I started
weeping as we're just weeping yeah they
know what this intentional and just like
man you know and there's people that
know the power of music and what they
bring to the table man being intentional
with the music and I think that
increases it the more we can partner
with it which is why I do want to have
understanding of it but the
understanding only comes through
experiencing
so opening up to any experience that God
has for us you know music is more than a
sound like you said and we are made of
more than just matter we are made of
light we are made of vibrations we are
made of frequencies so when those
frequencies hit and match encounter and
you know and they'll affect each one of
us differently because we are in our own
unique frequencies so it's really cool
to see how what will align one person in
one direction will completely heal
somebody and you know yeah that's
amazing
I'll do it now so I'm creating these
meditations and stuff and so I've got to
the point where like I'll write the
meditation to the music so I want to
hear the music and I can just picture
okay that's the tone that's the
frequency that it carries and then this
is just kind of like a something that
just helps you tap in the trance state
fast because of that tone and then when
Jesus comes into the picture when I do
those meditations then we're gonna step
up an octave and we're gonna do a
different note and I don't know
exactly let the sacred geometry that
goes for each tone I mean there's charts
and things that you can look at but you
can feel it right so you oh something's
there that's good so that's tied to like
binaural beats and things like that well
yeah so like the binaural beats those
things that just because that's just the
rhythm and we know that the rhythm of
the drum puts us under hypnosis when we
hear that drum those drums playing well
it's easier to tap in and go into the
translation so the binary o beats are
gonna going to be that but the tones and
frequencies are gonna be like whether
you're listening to 432 whatever
frequency that is it can pull you into
that trance and whether it's you need
healing for a certain like area you know
relationship you know
chakras like all like the different
areas in your body where you need
healing you need peace you want you play
that tone and you can feel it so just
like if we play if we put on some music
by let's say the secular band stained
right now and he starts playing those
those sad Tunes and he starts singing
about how he loves and hates life that's
gonna spirits like behind that like that
stuff creates that stuff and you talk
with all these weird entities
they ride on music and sound and
vibration so take back my airwaves so
for one of those to be true the other
has to be true as well in everything
forth to be a universal law the opposite
has to be true as well if there could be
music that puts you in a bad mood and we
know we have our go to music like we
whether it's worship music Bethel we
mentioned Bethel like that's my go-to
stuff I put on Bethel NACO medicine for
the people like put that on every saddle
is transforming and like I'm putting
that on and just tapping in and in
people and it's a blessing and a
pleasure but like people get to put on
my music and do that like they put on my
music and they go to that place you know
and it's so it's so awesome to be able
to kind of pay that forward you know and
it's beautiful but that's the power
we don't even even touch the surface of
sound vibration we I mean we could put
out books and books and teachings and
lectures and still not even scratch the
surface of it yeah so true yeah and if
you notice - there's so many genres that
have been just dominated by one
spiritual side yeah and unfortunately
that also gives the people who are into
it a negative connotation because they
are engulfed in all of that you know I
like stuff with a much harder edge like
what give me some bands okay well
they're a little bit older than now but
I love disturbed has always been one of
my favorite bands my goodness have you
heard the song I think I don't know if
it the song the light by disturb yes and
that's the thing like I've gotten to see
his journey from beginning and then you
listen to his music now and I'm like
there's something happening with this
play in the last two albums there's
something shifting something and I
remember worshiping yeah to disturb well
on repeat for five hours I was painting
and it was when I first went out to
school and I was afraid to listen that
music again but I'm like I miss it and
you put it on and let me speak to
sing to it on repeat and I was just
jamming out and I started crying like
God started showing me things about
David Draiman and what he carries and he
it carries this this tremendous beacon
of hope and then you start to look back
through his music and suicide prevention
and things like that despair depression
all of these things that he's faced
about but he's constantly fighting he's
so when I don't know I feel like there's
multiple spirits always working it's
just what we tap into and that switched
my whole perspective even on his older
music or on their older music and I get
such a different feel now when I listen
to them when we're before I was just
relating with the negativity because
that's how I felt
yeah man and we're just scratching the
surface but again disturbed its own
delight I remember the first time I
heard it I was reading and for some
reason some of the songs help me to read
the lyrics and and sing it and the light
man is let me just I'm not gonna play
the song because we'll get flagged on
YouTube but I'm gonna read some of the
lyrics so when you reading it is one
thing but then when you're you're
singing it you're professing it you're
proclaiming it man I'm just gonna I'm
gonna read some of this just because
it's good he says like an unsung melody
the truth is waiting there for you to
find it it's not a blight but a remedy a
clear reminder of how it began deep
inside your memory turned away as you
struggle to find it you heard the call
as you walked away right I mean come on
like a voice of calm within the silence
who is that who spoke to you who was the
calm voice within the silence right a
voice have come from within the silence
and for what seemed an eternity says
you're waiting hoping it would call out
again it's like I miss those beautiful
encounters I've had with the Lord man
and like you're in these seasons where
you like man I don't even feel like that
same person anymore sometimes you know
it says you heard the shadow reckoning
then you fear then your fears seem
to keep you blinded you held your guard
as you walked away but then it goes into
the course it says when you think all is
forsaken listen to me now
all is not forsaken you need never feel
broken again sometimes darkness can show
you the light man and our relationship
with the darkness right when we're going
through it hate you God deliver my soul
but then you know once we're out of it
and we instant hindsight we look back on
the darkness and we talk about the
contrast like you don't know how
marvelous that light is unless you've
been into the depths of the blackest
deepest darkness you don't know that
there is a contrast there if you just
everything's beautiful everything's good
everything is awesome like you don't
know what you don't you're not thankful
for it so you go through those those
trials and tribulations and so like my
relationship even with the darkness and
with demons or whatever the case is or
being a victim I'm a victim and I thank
God that I went through those dark
nights it's made me become the person
who I am today and it's lit a fire
within my heart for the broken and for
the marginalized and people who are just
overlooked you know what I'm saying and
it's natural I don't have to fake it
like it's literally there for people who
are going through that and there is hope
like that's the testimony you can come
out of it I came out of it and man my
relationship with the darkness and the
demons and all that because it's it's
all God like he did it he allowed it but
you know there's debate there well God
didn't do it he just allowed it well
same thing you know the in but the
relationship of not being a victim
anymore but like you know what the
things that the enemy meant for my
destruction God's gonna in turn use that
for my good and he's gonna use that as a
stepping stone into my destiny and I
needed to go through that to produce
this character with them and where I had
character defects and character flaws
and I took everything for granted and I
didn't care and i gossiped and I backed
by you know how to get over gossiping
and backbiting having hole
congregations of churches gossip and
backbiting out you do you tell my being
empathic and you can feel it oh no no I
wouldn't wish that on anybody so going
through that stuff you naturally learn
the Lord is a good way of teaching us
he's the perfecter of our faith to get
it get us where we need to be because if
things that he wants to reward us with
in different levels he wants to bring us
to and things he wants to show us but we
wouldn't we wouldn't be faithful with it
we would we'd mess it up you know people
are just begging to be in ministry and
begging to find that spouse you got
character deflect defects you don't need
to bring that into a relationship you
know you got and he needs to deal with
it first let him do it you know and then
when he does it it's gonna be beautiful
and you don't have to worry about that
stuff man and so I'm thankful for this
all part of the journey devil didn't
write my story you know what I'm saying
author of nothing he pervert stinks you
know what I'm saying God is the author
and perfecter and finisher of my faith
and he's got he's got this figured out
you know he knows what's good for us
yeah well on the flip side of that too
is within relationship he does allow to
co-create our journey he allows us to
make decisions but it only comes again
through the relationship and like you
said you you know talking about people
wanting to find a spouse or wanting to
get this or wanting to get ahead in that
there our focus isn't on the Lord and
he's not gonna give us something that he
knows will destroy us in the end
yeah because if those are the things
that were most hungry for then it will
destroy us what is what are some of the
other bands that uh you like or
ministered to you well Evanescence
Killswitch engaged but I get into a lot
of EDM as well and one of my passions
this actually combine the two more of
the grunge rock and the electronic which
I think both both areas have been pretty
dominated secular narcissistic cannibal
what was that narcissistic cannibal it
was the corn corn
record they were they they had Skrillex
on a lot of their stuff Korn and
Skrillex together yeah yeah they did a
EDM metal album together called
narcissistic cannibal EDM and uh there's
a group that uh it's my go to I try not
to overdo it you know but it's a group
called above and beyond and there's some
songs that I listen to that like
immediately put me in the mood or bring
me back to that place as far as like if
I'm stepping out and doing things that
oh my journey my destiny that seems
scary and it's like some of their music
just reminds me look and it's like
little quotes that says look the sky
belongs to no one
you're meant to fly and soar and take
off you know and there's other other
meditation songs that that they bring to
the table such as good for me that
really brings me back to and a heavenly
encounter that I had some years ago and
um so much so well I don't I don't
listen to it because it always brings me
back there and I don't want to like burn
off the newness of it you know but if
you listen to it you just immediately
just go into that place because music is
like a timestamp as well it's like a
time machine and you can hear a song
that you heard when you was a kid that's
why I love a lot of stuff from the 80s
now I don't even care what even 90s like
I don't even care what it was like if my
mom listened to it I remember it brings
me back immediately I'm riding in the
backseat of the car you know with my
brothers and sisters and you know and
it's like man then when times were easy
or as simple right it's that time
machine and music has that and and we we
have that ability as worship leaders and
music song creators to create that
encounter for other people too so that's
beautiful yeah yeah it's crazy because
it does it triggers not only the memory
but the feeling and you you literally
are on every level back there
any Christian metal banished I haven't
gotten in to crush any Christian metal
recently I know my brother is he's
really into and he just suggested some
new bands the ones that I listened to
before I didn't really is it was way
more like scream oh and I like I like
more more I just like the grungy sound
oh yeah I recently put on some some old
under oath at Norma Jean like songs that
I have forgotten about like the screamo
stuff and it's like yeah I don't listen
too much over there but I can't I can't
do it for a long period of time no we
don't do it too much
my wife she don't list to it at all
anymore it's just mostly like Jack
Johnson and Trevor Hall and NACO like
they're really soft music you know but
we used to we were big in the metal
scene here and playing in bands and
stuff like that back in the day but man
I listen I'm an eclectic as well and
everything from like really heavy orders
you know to like just a beautiful soft
angelic acoustic stuff you know I love
ambient music in fact when I create
music I like to do more of the ambient
the flowy the no-no beats really mostly
because I haven't really had capability
for that even piano playing and I played
the cello it's all very melodic it's all
yeah I like to go outside of time and
outside of structure with with the music
I create so my vocal stuff is that way
too when I'm just singing by myself no
structured melodies or anything it's
just very all over the place almost
ancient sounding sometimes I love
different modes singing or playing in
different modes other than major minor
mm-hmm just really get grabbing
different sounds that aren't often used
or have been used in a lot of other
realms other than for worship um let's
see here I had a thought but I lost it
but then there's a question here if
anybody has any questions make sure
y'all post them in chat which I too
bring them in but um let's see Charlie
says what is darkness the absence of
light
it could almost be said that the only
darkness can show you the light true I
mean darkness is the natural state of
man like the light is the is the
external force and so we're all people
look at darkness like it's bad you don't
understand like the darkness is the
absence of the light or whatever the
darkness is exist is here it's formless
and void and and and you know triple
states of darkness like looking up
something there's some really deep
revelation about the darkness and it's
not I don't think any of us bad like if
it was a look at those things like
they're bad then you become a victim and
then you know and you but you're not a
victim if you got something out of it
like you learned from it right and you
change your perspective and so I don't
think that there's any any thing that
happens that we're just victims to and
others we especially in the time of
going through it like whatever it is I
mean you don't want to go through it but
it's kind of like has to happen you know
to get us what we need to be and it's
controversial though you know what I'm
saying people God doesn't let bad things
happen and it's only the devil I went I
went to a church last night and and
enjoyed the worship but the the pastor
he or that he was evangelist related to
the pastor and he just went in on this
healing stuff and it was just like God
versus the devil and the devil is you
know only if you don't get healed it's
your fault it's like whoa hold on man
like we've studied the scriptures a
little bit too much to really be making
these absolutes like that like almost
like mocking people in their sickness if
you you didn't want it bad enough you
didn't believe God like hold on dude
like that's demonic for you to really
say that the Bible says that we are the
heel and they're preaching it and people
it's a message of hope because if you
believe it you shall receive it now we
believe that but it was like this
backhanded yet those who don't get
it's because of their lack of faith
that's like my goodness man it was just
hard you know - but everything works
together for our good man and it's um
where do you stand on that and in this
cos it's um I mean you have the Todd
White's you know as I love Todd white
but he's he's won every sickness or
every attack or whatever it's for a
demonic attack you know people die in
that they die with cancer fasting and
praying and believe in God's gonna heal
them and it's like this weird dichotomy
we have in Christianity it's like oh you
didn't have enough faith and there's
people who they won't even be at they
I've seen people who won't let people in
their house who are a lack of faith
because they're sick like they're
believing for a miracle and so like
anybody who's like not a believer they
wouldn't even let him around them cuz
they thought that it would tarnish them
getting their healing it's a really
weird place man you can't is there do
you have anything to add to that or so a
realm where it makes sense because I
really do man believe that God uses all
things and whether it's sickness or he
whether he does it or he allows it he's
you know nothing happens without it what
I have knowing it you know what I'm
saying and I do think we need to grow in
that you know it versus and that's a
victim too um you know my dad died of
cancer he like he didn't have enough
faith and I've heard people say that he
didn't have enough faith to get healed
and you know all kind of things I feel
like it's definitely not that black and
white and I think to try to figure out
why didn't happen or why certain things
happen is just to totally take take a
distracted perspective it's kind of like
anything that gets thrown at you it
doesn't matter where it came from what
are you gonna do with it drug that's
what you can control and I don't yeah I
don't have a solid belief on whether God
causes things or I really don't don't
personally think that he's like okay I'm
gonna hurt you now you know but I think
that our perspectives also determine
things that aren't necessarily
as bad because they heard and God is not
afraid of pain he's not afraid of
himself feeling pain look at Jesus he's
not afraid of us feeling pain we go to
the gym and we purposely inflict pain
for what the sake of growth the sake of
becoming stronger we add resistance we
hurt we're sore the next day but we
realize that there's a game to it and
just because we can see that we can see
the the beginning to end in that area
then we turn around and we go god this
hurts it's bad why are you doing this to
me it's such a it's such a two year old
perspective in my in my opinion I'm I'm
sorry if that's offensive but it really
is it's just a baby approach to okay
well let's go further yeah this hurts
but okay that aside where can I go from
here how can this grow me what can I
build with it you know that is that's a
wealthy mentality when it comes to
living it's what can I produce in the in
the moment I'm in with the situation I'm
given no matter how crappy it feels what
good can come from it and to be
constantly partnering with that from
beginning to end yeah we're gonna feel
the pain and it's really important to
feel that stuff release it but like you
said not sitting it as a victim all this
is holding me down and and well this
happened to me so I'm like this no this
happened to me and this is what I did
with it should always be the palette
yeah yeah yeah again what what the enemy
is cost for your harm the Lord uses for
your good and you know letting your
setbacks be your slingshot slingshot you
and propose you into your destiny like
you gotta have resistance like I mean in
everything again weight training like
you said like you gotta put some weight
on there you're trying to trying to get
big muscles and get stronger you have to
have resistance and and resistance is
working something within you to make you
better be able to carry more burdens and
maybe carry other people's burdens who
aren't able to do it I mean even in
Christ Elma you know said my yoke is
easy and my burden is light like carry
my burden you're carrying burdens right
and so you know going through that count
at all joy you know the Scriptures have
rejoiced when
things happen because it's working
something beautiful within you that's
something I'm sort of just seeing God
like in seasons right I would really
feel like there's these seasons and
stuff and you're kind of looting to this
a little bit like tests and things and
trials that we go through that we have
to respond in love right we have to
respond like Jesus and so we keep
getting these unexpected bills in the
mail that we have to pay and we don't
have the money we freak out and we doubt
God or whatever the case is right but
when we respond in love and do you like
go to the next level so you don't freak
out like um and I could say that with my
podcast or whatever there's you know
times that I've had things happen to me
friends betray me going gossip videos
about me and just crazy weird stuff that
in the past I would have retaliated and
I even questioned if I should do it I
have a big enough platform and I can
destroy you like I thought about it but
it's like I had to confide in a couple
friends say confess it look man I'm
saying having these thoughts man I want
to go in and say no you're gonna destroy
everything you're building don't even
give them the cold shoulder just don't
even address it you know stay you stayed
doing what you're supposed to don't let
them people get you off is like okay I
passed the test I responded in love I
prayed for them Lord bless them bless
their ministry bless their family of
Buster health bring them through
whatever they're going through but don't
stoop down to their level and so these
different things in your life and laws
are okay I can trust you yeah it's a
universal law God says that if I can
trust you with the weave you'll be
faithful with these little things I'll
give you some more he's looking God's
looking what can I trust you with I
can't trust you can't hold water you
tell everybody sometimes I look at my
encounters there's a look man I opened
up the veil of eternity and showed you
what it looks like and here you go tell
it everybody I wanted to show you some
stuff and now you're telling everybody
you putting it in your music like I was
checked on that actually on angelic
encounter and they was like oh that's
you you know one that's been talking
about traveling to heaven and opening
portals and going on your mystical
journeys that's you okay we've got some
things we want to show you make sure you
want to throw your pearls before swine
you know it
a really come to Jesus moment you know
and it was beautiful though but it was
like I want to make sure we got the
right person and you know but if we but
you know I don't think so when it comes
to knowledge and and experiences and
stuff like that I want to put it out
there not to to Lord something over
anybody like I said this is anybody can
have these experiences right if that's
what you want if you want to know that
it's real God wants you wants to show
you but you can you know we talked about
him so that it builds people's faith
like what's possible for us God can do
for you and you know and that's it like
I did a podcast and I was like how many
how many angelic encounters do you need
before you start doing what you're
called to do like how many and count how
many baptisms of the Holy Spirit how
many angels do you need to show up
before you believe God and take a
medicine oh you had one like I feel like
cuz there's people who don't know any of
this stuff they we walk in a group of
people who this is like a lifestyle
right it's everything some so far out
you know but there's people who they've
never they've never felt that just a
little small things the joy of sitting
in worship and feeling that warmth come
come all over your body and close you
with a garment of praise that feels
lighter than the garment of heaviness
that you had on like they just something
as spiritual and supernatural as that
they've never even experienced it and
countered it but we've privy to so much
I kind of feel like a spoiled kid at
times right yes I want to be faithful
what you've already given me like I
don't want anymore
I do want more but I'm not gonna like
let me find a way to articulate the
meaning of what this even represents
here on the earth and how it's gonna
bring restoration and healing to people
whatever that means let me find ways to
articulate it versus the sake of an
encounter just for an encounter like
what does that mean okay these angels
are traveling back and forth from heaven
earth I've seen them I've encountered
them
now what you
to blow your mind yeah I definitely blew
my mind but what does that mean for the
little kid you know what I'm saying if
we can't explain our spirituality and
these experiences to just average
laypeople then it's just like you'll
find people who are just like so
spiritually minded that they're no
earthly good I know we've heard that
term that Todd white does say we're
supposed to be so spiritually minded
that were earthly incredible and I
believe that I believe that our
spirituality should be practical but
again going back to finish the point I'm
sorry but sharing these encounters and
sharing these experiences so with the
elite in different levels of Freemasonry
and secret societies and the mystery
schools like they were like they kind of
they keep the secrets and mysteries to
themselves and you had to go I don't
know if it was for good reason like you
had to go through initiation but we are
initiated into God's mystery school
right we all are and and there's
different we talk about these levels and
testings and are you faithful or not
okay I gave you $50 and you blew it
if God can't trust you with 50 he's not
gonna trust you with 5000 if I can't
trust you with a back healing I'm not
gonna trust you with the healing
ministry I can't trust you not to gossip
with seven friends I'm not gonna trust
you to gossip with a podcast reaching
7,000 you know what I'm saying so we are
we're in this realm of initiation you
know and the angels are here they're
helping us in crisis over this whole
thing the oldest order of Melchizedek
the order of the Elohim and it's deep we
don't even know it but we get to
interact with it when we go through in
the dream state and in the spirit and
things like that we're able to see
things that are happening but I don't
feel like it should be lorded over
people or like it's only for these
people because it's for everyone who
soever like Kinning experiences in
encounter but I think that they do that
to protect the knowledge like to protect
like it can destroy us like the Book of
Eli or whatever the movie like whoever
has the knowledge of what's really in
this
book and you have you understand
universal law
really you understand Dominion and
there's people even Christian people who
are using it for bad right they have the
gifts to the spirit they can prophesy
they can't any know how to change the
atmosphere they know what words to say
they know what hand signs to do when
take an offering they learn this stuff
right and he lorded over people so what
do you feel about that like just stowing
you know oh yeah I've seen an alien
I had a UFO come down like the light
being come on over my house and speak to
me like we just own this stuff out there
like it's nonchalant but this stuff is
really precious unto God you know and
it's he's let us carry the anointing in
these encounters and what do you feel do
you ever feel like maybe I shouldn't
have told anybody but I I do feel like
there's a difference in and again it
goes back to where are you operating
from you know we're operating from the
father's heart and that's what we're
seeking he is going to lead us in as
we're ready if that's the number one
that's what we're seeking the thing is
we can seek the other things and we can
still find them because they've been
made available to us so there are a lot
of people who are into Freemasonry and
witchcraft and New Age and all that and
they're discovering truths a lot of
their spiritual truths they're it's kind
of like discovering science it's there
for us to discover but then if we don't
have our hearts aligned with the values
of the Lord we will inevitably become
careless with that we'll start to as we
grow in more knowledge and power within
the Spirit it goes to our heads the
pride Wells up the the control happens
you know and it comes from a not so
happy place a very dark place and and I
think too that might be a lot of reasons
why a lot of that's hidden too it's a
control thing yeah and but they also do
recognize that there's power within it
however when we're one with God and
we're operating from the pure form
there's no power that can match that and
that's honestly I believe in their heart
of hearts what they're searching for is
that's all they found I think it did and
again I really do feel like you know we
are like it's a it's a testing game and
how are you gonna respond and if you
want more you have to be faithful with
what's been given to you I mean there's
so many parables the parables of the
sower I mean don't get don't let money
rule your heart don't do it for the
wrong intentions don't lie to the holy
spirit there's like a bunch of different
guidelines to like moving up the
rankings in the spirit and being walking
on your destiny and you have to get that
stuff out because if not you're gonna be
self sabotaging you know you're gonna
undo everything that you're you're
building like what if like there's just
so much but God he knows what he's doing
you know of us going through what we
call the inner sanctification process
what's really cool is I think like
listen to some teachings on the Kabbalah
and things like that and it really like
magnifies this inner working of God
doing this stuff within your heart and
they have grids and maps and I mean all
of this does so so and the inner
deliverance the inner healing it's all
kind of taken and mapped out from very
similar places because it's universal
like it's it works the deliverance and
going back and finding healing healing
comes to the broken places first and it
changes everything if somebody wanted to
find out about your work your music what
you bring to the table do you have a
website or any thing where people can
follow your work Twitter Facebook all
that kind of stuff I just have the
facebook right now and actually most of
what I have on there is my art it's
under kingdom creations Kingdom and then
creations with a K and you can find me
on there otherwise freedom joy I mean
message me I'm I love to talk to people
so but yeah right now I'm just on
Facebook
okay freedom joy on Facebook that's how
I found you and then you had the kingdom
creations as what it's called right so
you draw you have a drawing I listen to
a story though of a painting I said
drawing
a painting that you did with until you
talked about it with Gil in them and you
said you drew you started painting this
abstracts toughening you the Lord said
flip it over and when you did it was a
like angelic woman or something like
that right was a story behind that well
that's what happened I am I've always
been very detailed and precise with my
paintings almost to a fault and I really
wanted to just tap into something freer
I've done that with my music where I
just let go and I don't even listen to
the sound in the moment I don't you know
kind of talk about that earlier but I
hadn't gotten that way with art it was
always very I see a vision I'm gonna
figure out how to translate here and I'm
and I would just go in detail every
single detail and I'd spend hours on
just just you know an inch section even
toward the end but this was I just
really wanted to gain more freedom and
paint from a deeper place other than my
head so I just grabbed a canvas it was
like it was about 1 a.m. and I just felt
inspired I grabbed a canvas I grabbed
all kinds of colors that I normally
don't use I grabbed brushes that make me
uncomfortable
I didn't I like a fan brush I had always
wanted to use one but I didn't really
know the techniques and I was meaning to
look it up but just figured I'd grab
grab stuff that I was really
uncomfortable with so I couldn't control
it
and I just started laying paint on
little strokes big strokes different
brushes switching colors and I was
switching strokes I don't know it just
looked like a big abstract piece to me
and I'm like but I started to just kind
of break 3 free and because there were
no lines to follow there was no design
in mind I just started to really tap
internally into the emotion into what I
was feeling what I was seeing on a
deeper level and just letting that come
sorry my battery's oh shoot my battery's
dying and just letting that come through
however it would and at one point yeah
then Holy Spirit said uh turn it over
and I was like okay as I flipped it over
and there was a distinct outline of a
woman's face in the middle so I just
kind of worked around that and and let
it alone I mean everything in me wanted
to go and detail it up and just really
control it but I didn't I didn't want to
ruin it like that so yeah that was the
first experience with just completely
freely painting and I've done a few
others since which turned out really
cool are there a lot of paintings of
angels that's something that you
frequent I actually have I have a
painting it's not an angel per se but it
is a heavenly creature it looks almost
like a bird but all of that is on my
facebook Islam and the stories are
behind it oh wow yeah yeah make sure you
go over there and check that out support
it one thing that's really interesting
to to note a little like a lot of the
prophetic circles Bethel definitely does
this but then I look at see I look at I
just I pulled a the terminology off of
it the blinder so I look at Bethlem
stuff and so they do a lot of painting
are in dancing Wow
someone like doing worship right so you
have someone painting and then I look at
like what's the name of that church is
the chapel of sacred mirrors with Alex
gray and Kazem they have that made it a
church in this is a spiritual more
new-age right but they do very similar
they'll have artists playing and doing
music and sound healing but there's
people painting and it's like very
similar people doing the same thing then
I'll see like people doing spiritual
circles where we get into prayer will
have a seat and somebody being a sitting
in the seat and everybody would lay
hands and speak affirmations and bless
them and hear what the Lord is saying
prophetically for them or whatever and
we release that and then there's
spiritual circles - would they do the
same thing somebody sits in the seat and
they just started speaking prophetically
over there
and it's like man once you pull the
religious terminology off of a man it's
really love speaking at the end of the
day and we're like so much more we have
more in common than we think or we've
been told anyway with with a lot of
these groups and people you know and at
the end of the day love wins man so it's
really cool just to see God invading
people wherever they are and you don't
have to be a certain person or people
group or part of a church for you have
that relationship you know you can have
that watching this podcast listening you
know God just are you just focus on the
father man wherever you are and it's so
cool just to see the lines being blurred
so how much what's your percentage
what's my but I think I think we're good
I'm at 14 at the moment we're plugged in
we'll finish this last time so for me
when I begin to go deeper in my
Awakening and spirituality and
encounters and stuff that Dogma begin to
take a backseat you know that you're
talking about and having it all figured
out always being right like I was really
big on evangelism and preaching against
sin and preaching against wrong doctrine
or preaching against if you didn't
believe what I believed which I thought
was the truth then I wanted to convert
you you know what I'm saying in that
began my message but as I get closer to
I believe the heart of God man getting
deeper in my closer to the Father that
stuff takes a backseat you know and I'm
more at peace with who I am and I don't
have to be right and I don't have to win
the conversation I don't have to argue
with you I don't have to convince you to
believe my encounters so that I feel
validated anymore which in the past I
needed you to believe that speaking in
tongues was evidence of the baptism of
the Holy Spirit or whatever the whatever
you know if you sin you lose your
salvation this weird doctrinal things
that we kind of fought for and if I got
you to believe in it didn't validate it
what
what I believed right because you
believed in it and they're not only you
but a lot more people and the more
people you can convince or get with a
denomination that believes that it kind
of gives you that pat on the back that
hey there's something it's in my belief
I don't have that anymore like we've
seen some really interesting things in
the spirit that we we would sound like
fools trying to explain even though we
do it anyway because it's fun so is that
something that happened for you like as
you begin to get closer to God you've
the dogma falls off and and being able
to like saying hey this is god that's
God and now you can just kind of see God
in everything is that let through nature
through secular music you know what I'm
saying I mean that's dog money you can't
listen to gum it's probably some people
might have turned off when you would say
we're listening to disturbed and feeling
the Holy Spirit and things like that you
know do you you move in more in love
these days now that you're having this
Awakening and going deeper absolutely
and I think I think it surprises me how
much still falls off though I think it's
a constant thing how much we we don't
realize that we're still judging or
still hanging on to in those especially
when you grow up in the church you grow
up with it's so ingrained in you the
rules not the scripture per se but the
the interpretations of the scriptures
and whatnot but the more I dive into the
heart of love the more I realize all of
that is completely opposite of of love
so yeah for sure I see a lot of that
falling off I I actually hate I will not
argue
Todd Nix you know I'll have conversation
like this where even if you and I
disagreed you know there's a mutual
respect of wow I never thought of it
that way or I don't know if I see it
that way but that's really cool you know
I am NOT interested in arguing a point I
it just there's you can't you know I've
discovered that almost everything I
believed
besides Jesus's the way it was debunked
anyway by God so I'm going what makes me
think that this whole tear apart of my
mentality isn't gonna happen again and
you could be right or you know maybe
people are just saying things
that we're just misunderstanding
we're misunderstanding through our own
filters so I don't think we ever have a
right anymore to really judge what
people believe that's their journey
that's where they're at and you know our
our only position is to love yep yes
that's how that's how they know that we
truly are his disciples is by our love
not by our doctrine not by our beliefs
or how many people we win or convert or
how sound we are scripturally and you
know it's just about our love you know
that I love you know I don't even have I
don't judge people by that by the Bible
anymore like as far as like now I do
judge them by the Bible but that's I
judge them by their fruit I don't judge
them like if a man comes up and he's a
pastor you do not get a free pass just
because you're a Christian or you come
up with holding the Bible in your hand
and you know I follow the Word of God
well your actions are gonna show me what
you follow and what you believe you know
I'm gonna know you by your fruit so when
I started doing that just judging people
according to their fruit versus of
judging them according to their belief
system or doctrine or whatever there's a
lot more freedom came in there too and
so it let me like I would want to hang
around like spiritual maybe Hindus or
just spiritual people like I'd rather
hang out with them more than a carnal
Christian you know what I'm saying of
like racist
big backbiting gossiping Christians I'm
like I got to get away from you people
I would rather hang out with a spiritual
Jew you know what I'm saying then these
other people and you begin to see them
whole I think these people have a piece
of God I think they have a piece of
Jesus that he's Jesus's love made
manifest in a person like if love became
a person and walked in and flesh it
that's who Jesus is on the earth and he
had different you know Commandments and
and instructions for us to do and these
people like verses and Romans wanted to
these people by nature are doing the
very things written of in the law
they're keeping the law and they don't
even know about your law you don't even
know about your Christian
and your worship services they don't
know none of that but they're by nature
because they've they know that there's
something greater that put them here
like they they are interacting with that
and they have the fruit that produces
that I rather hang out with those people
and I started judging people off of that
versus off of how many scriptures they
knew or how close enough they believed
or whatever there's a lot more freedom
entered in my life as well absolutely we
have a lot more in common like because
in church we've been told to like see
what because we're a peculiar people you
would not like the world stay away from
the world and we're different like man
we're just like these people that 10
dude is just like me you know he was at
a point in his life where he hit rock
bottom and he needed God and just so
happened when he called the local
religious leaders it was these people
you know and it just so happened me I
called a church you know but you you see
man I'm just this person is seeking
truth we're getting there's a similar
fruit there's a relationship there and
and I started just kind of naturally
getting there but then like I saw listen
to this interview with Billy Graham like
the greatest evangelist of our day
winning hundreds of thousands if not
millions of people to Christ you know at
these big Crusades over the years and at
the end of his life he was saying like
we're not gonna see that he doesn't
believe that we're gonna see this
revival where everybody's gonna just
come storming the churches again and you
know we're not gonna see this great
endtime revival but he said that God has
a people for his namesake across the
whole world that are a part of the body
of Christ and then he said this he said
these people may have not even have
heard the name of Jesus but they have
said within themselves that they are
sinners in need of a savior they need
something outside of them they are
desiring a relationship with their
Creator that's calling them and they may
he said they may be in it may be Muslims
they may be Hindus yeah it may have not
heard of the name of Jesus but he said
they're part of the body of Christ now
many people have called him a heretic
since then
but it's like man there's a lot more
people who were just moving like love is
the key like Jesus is love if you don't
have love you don't have Jesus no matter
what you claim you know yep well that's
that's just it you know God searching
for God is a position of the heart and
you don't have to have the right
terminology I think as a church we've
we've said you have to stay a certain
prayer you have to say the right words
and but I know many people and myself
included when I was younger that I've
said those words and had no clue until
my heart was crying out yeah yeah you
know and I think we're it'd be really
sad to think that it has to be in a
certain cookie cutter prayer or phrase
for everything to change God God sees
way deeper than that he knows who's
searching and it's within and outside of
the body yeah there are the terms terms
out there as far as like you know
somebody being a Universalist but then I
found out there was a there's Christian
Universalist you know that God is gonna
reconcile all things unto himself and
everyone so there's a new term that her
a Christian Universalist so little bit
different than being a Universalist
maybe because Christ is the one who died
for the sins of mankind you know and
he's gonna reconcile all things unto
himself so I kind of tended to lean more
towards that and so this whole salvation
thing is something that Jesus did and it
I don't think the ball is in our court
as far as like God leaving it up to you
or up to me for another where another
person will spend eternity like what if
we're having a bad day what if you
having a bad day what if you just don't
feel like it
what if you just what if you're
prejudiced and you just don't what if
you don't like gay people what if you
don't like black people and then God's
like relying on you to get them into
heaven but you don't you know what I'm
saying that's like hold on God so the
king of the universe has given me the
power that if I don't tell them they're
going to hell forever
and ever and ever it's like hold on man
Love Wins bro if we really know the
depths of who love is and what love is
man love paid the price and the Bible
says that while we were yet sinners
Christ died for the ungodly I believe
that man is a lot more people who are
being open and more vocal about that and
these days you know yeah I think that
our traditional view of salvation and
what that looks like and after death and
after life whatever you want to call it
I honestly don't have a solid set of
beliefs on it I'm more in discovery mode
when it comes to that I I don't believe
that there isn't the hell but I don't
think it is at all what we think it is
for the purpose that we think it is or
you know I don't think it looks anything
like we've we've thought it to look I
think that you can live totally in hell
on earth you know just like we can live
in heaven on earth so I I really believe
that it has everything to do with what
our heart aligns with and what we choose
on a daily basis and it doesn't have to
look a certain way
God knows those intentions God knows
those and those those decisions that he
knows exactly where we're at in our
questioning and all of us have questions
we don't have the right to to judge
somebody else's questions go well you
know what yeah yeah when you know a
completely other area I'm going like
this I I don't know exactly what it
looks like after or how that's gonna be
reconciled I'm with you I really believe
that this earth isn't going anywhere
yeah I believe that it's going to
transform you know I and God is he's
already reconciled everything to himself
is just beginning to manifest now he's
raising up who we were created to be and
that also goes with the perspectives of
immortality I don't believe that we're
designed to die I Jesus didn't he died
destroyed death resurrected and never
died again Enoch never died Elijah never
died Moses still has his body and I
really feel like these were the
prototypes for what Jesus set into
motion and it's it's where we choose to
align and agree with it what's
interesting to to note on that like they
tried to kill even like by his
like a lot of the disciples they just
couldn't kill him John so they put him
on an island they boil him in oil
forever
yeah so there were some people who have
attained that and I got a good friend of
mine John hooks Illuminati Congo who is
just he's a Hindu I'd say he's a Hindu
he leans more towards that way he's just
a spiritual dude really cool guy and
he's a big one that uh immortality thing
and I know Justin Abraham is getting
really big listening to his stuff and
very interesting to say the least
I um I was gonna do a status update I
had this thing came to me though they
you know you get this revelation you
wanna do a status update I'll do it but
I did and I just I left it as a comment
on somebody who had something very
similar to say shout out to Adams
Starseed Bay good friend of mine
but you saw about hell I was like if
criminai was saying like if Christians
would stop worrying about people going
to hell and start worrying about the
people who are already in hell then
maybe we'll change the world like
worried about people going to heaven I
don't think I don't think it's that
that's our concern like going to heaven
when we die
that's that death is inevitable but
we're supposed to be living in heaven
here and there's people who are already
in this state of hell I mean even you
know in in the Old Testament the view of
Hell was a was a consciousness of being
separated from God and you know David
saying lord save my soul from from Hell
take me out of this place of torment
that I'm in now you know and I think
that's that's our calling as believers
in it to proclaim the gospel of what not
what Jesus will do but what he's already
done for all of humanity and letting
them know that there's a peace and
there's a forgiveness and there's
restoration in all things and there is
deliverance and it will change your life
right okay well we have to do this again
friend I'd love to have you back on and
I'm sure we can just keep going for
hours and hours and I appreciate you
hanging out with me so everyone make
sure y'all go follow her on Facebook
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check out her paintings do you have
anything for sale do you sell paintings
and stuff like that or
I do sell my work unfortunately a lot of
the stuff that's on there is already
long sold a lot of it I sell as I'm
doing it you know people will see it I
have done some Commission stuff too but
I don't do that often I know a lot of
people ask what about the music is there
any recordings and you worship YouTube
sessions what about the music we want to
hear I have a couple things on there
just again just things that I have
recorded straight onto my phone I'm
working on the whole recording thing but
you can get a taste for just some of
what that raw we're shipping in fact the
one that I told you about the healing
one is on that kingdom creations page as
well with the story behind it so awesome
yeah so we'll have to definitely check
that out so again thank you for coming
on we'll do it again sometime soon my
friend thanks so much yeah I have a go
on it's a freedom joy
ladies and gentlemen freedom joy good
show good episode really loved the
conversation I love being able to be
vocal about my faith and still talk
about the depths of spirituality and
angels and aliens contact with the
Pelagians fly through the blue sky with
the avians
human or being shiny and radiant winged
ETS watching over Homo sapiens you know
I love talking about all that stuff
with people who get it you know what I'm
saying and they love Jesus right that's
a plus it's always a plus versus hating
Jesus or not believing in Jesus or
whatever cases hey a lot of different
people man everybody comes from
different walks of life and different
backgrounds but um again you know and I
said I've said it a few times it is like
knots like when I meditate and pray like
I haven't really like withstood devils
and demons and stuff like that or have
gotten possessed or whatever we still I
want to just let people know we still
deal with spiritual warfare and there
are certain things that when you can
entertain in your life and things that
you can do that attract spirits it
doesn't mean you're possessed but it
you're attracting whether it's darker
negative entities
or whether it's beautiful angelic beings
right in there both there you know
choose this day who you will serve like
every day you have to you know choose
what you speak in life or death out of
your tongue off of your tongue and you
know create that atmosphere so man I
just the other night man I had I don't
know what was going on I mean I had I
ate a bunch of food and we were just
like with the bed stuff I had a couple
not a couple had a margarita and so I
had some alcohol and then just playing
video games most of the day that day and
I'm with the bad man and I literally had
nightmares all night like all night
every time I closed my eyes I was in
another nightmare and it was bad it was
uh it was like demonic every straight
demonic and I would wake up and I go
pray and I come back and lay it go to
bed and I'd be right back in that
nightmare and then and I'd come out of
that nightmare and go to another one
literally all night just nightmare night
it was the it was just bad man you know
so there's still spiritual warfare man
and the things that we do attract those
thoughts and the things that you know a
lot of people just believe that your
dreams are just trashed from the stuff
you deal with that day and Laney dolphin
who I had on my show to expert in dream
symbolism was talking about how like
your dreams and things are stuff that
you're dealing with that week it's not
like seven years from now or dreaming
about the past like the people and
places and things that you're dealing
with or have something to do or maybe
the characters at least show up and it
has something to do with what you're
dealing with within that week like a
week spam but I remember just just like
in their warfare just not wanting to
sleep man like I was felt like I was in
a place of Hell trying to go to sleep
just demonic thoughts and so that was
that night and then the next night the
next day we went and I was looking
forward to this was you know she went to
the Shane and Shane concert will do
again their psalmist and then they
performed the Psalms album went there
as soon as they started playing I was
just looking so much so much forward to
it and this presence of God just came
and I was just ready to lay that stuff
down and in music is a great way to do
it laid it down you know and just felt
the presence of God come in real strong
and just invade that building and I just
began to weep man and just let the
presence of God wash over me and just
that connection for like two hours it
was hard to hold back tears just because
the presence of God was so strong in
that place and I had a and I went home
that night and I read the scriptures
before bed right got back into the
scriptures and started reading in the
Psalms and just let him speaking it out
loud and what letting it wash over me
wash over my mind ever knew my mind by
the reading of the word and I'm telling
you man I had did the night sleep was
totally different from the night before
having sleep terrors and scared to go to
sleep and all that
the next night just I was so much in the
joy of the Lord in the presence of God
when I went to sleep and I remember just
the joy of the Lord something happened
in my dream something beautiful and I
was laughing in my dream I laughed so
loud that it audibly came out and I woke
up so you have one night you're scared
to go to sleep because of the dreams and
torments are so scary and then the next
night go to sleep and you wake up
laughing and the joy of the Lord choose
this day whom you will serve and the
things that the eyes and the ears are
the window to the soul and Jobe said and
actually I think I read that scripture
that night I think it was Psalm 100 101
Psalm 101:3 I believe it is Psalm 101:3
says I said Joe medicine Psalms I was
setting a wicked thing before my eyes I
hate the work of them that turn aside it
shall not cleave to me I will not set in
a wicked thing before my eyes that's
like man and in another scripture job
goes in
talking about he's made a covenant with
his eyes as well and how powerful that
is you know your eyes and ears being
gates and windows to the soul so be
careful what you entertain and the
things that you let let in none of us
are exempt you know none of us have like
a sin deter we're at that plane where we
don't have to deal with spiritual
warfare we don't have to continually
practice these things I found myself a
lot of times because I talk about this
stuff a lot I'm putting out content that
I need to continue creating encounter or
continually seeking the Lord for myself
versus teaching people how to do it
that's why I like when we do the school
of the Mystics or the Sunday seer class
I love it or if I do a private session
with somebody I love it because it's an
excuse for me to tap in as well it
tapped into the trance state with the
father and just get into his presence
for myself I'm learning new things I'm
having things fall off of me when I'm in
the presence of God whether we're
listening to worship music or whether
we're ministering to one another there's
work and inner transformation that's
happening to us as well so it's so
beautiful man and I just encourage you
you know if you're dealing with that
stuff man pray over yourself and make
sure you're entertaining yourself or
feeding yourself spiritually with
beautiful things so yeah I just wanted
to make sure I'll let y'all know about
that and um you know it was powerful
again September the 14th for those of
you who want to get involved we're going
to be doing an event at the scent mobile
center for spiritual living here in
Mobile Alabama I'm gonna put on an event
I don't know who all it's gonna be there
as far as like speaking it might be just
me I don't know what we're gonna get
together for a time of prayer and
fellowship and I'll be doing a teaching
there so if you that sounds like
something you want to do you want to
meet we may do a concert don't know all
the details but we're gonna start
working some of that stuff out but I'm
just putting it out there so you can put
it on your calendars September the 14th
encounter mobile it's gonna be good so
make sure you put that down get all the
details when that comes out and yeah
it's gonna be fun so with that that's
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