Pharmakeia | Witchcraft, Drugs, Demons and Sorcery | Enfluentz
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welcome to the true seeker podcast bro
how are you I'm well man finding dandy
that's right
likewise we've been talking about this
for a while haven't you wanna sharing
your story and you're promoting your new
album man which you just worked really
hard on and you know I had some hand in
that trying to help you get it promoted
and stuff and so I said yeah we're gonna
do it but time flies bro much right I
think it's been like four months that's
right especially when you're busy man
yeah so much going on man and so many
things you know so if you don't book it
you don't book it you don't do it it
just gets pushed back so I was like look
let's do it spur the moment we went uh
this past weekend to vortex Springs with
the fam and you came with us man we had
a blaster there's so much fun beautiful
so dude I want to get into your story
just some of the deep weird stuff you
know my I think the audience here likes
weird stories and I know you got a bunch
of them you've got some some horror
stories and we also got it you know it
has a happy ending it's the story of
redemption and things like that so I
want to talk about both sides of that um
for those of you don't know there's some
of the stuff that we have together like
what how many songs do we have together
man I know we have on my end we have on
the seer no no no on the colors album we
have on a hot - sacred heart space and
which is a beautiful song we have
praised and then we've not done - on
your projects ones unreleasable yeah you
know the one that we did walk alone man
I was that was very good I got a lot of
feedback on that a lot of people enjoyed
that one as well
alone yeah so if you got review
I know we have a lot that the Lord has
for us in store for the future like this
like this show we're doing for instance
that's gonna be great man I'm looking
forward to that it's gonna be definitely
gonna be great yeah so some of some of
these stories you're going to talk about
today they're kind of like sprinkled
throughout the album as well right like
I don't know would you call your your
new project is that a Christian rap
album I know you're a Christian right
but would you necessarily call it a
Christian rap problem because you're
talking about all of this spiritual
warfare and things like that we're going
to talk about today right I would I
would say I would say they're not
necessarily Christian album more or less
than an inspirational motivational
hip-hop album that's based on the
foundations or principles of God you see
what I'm saying it's quite easy to call
it something of like like say this is a
Christian album and there's a whole
group of people I'm trying to reach them
they don't even believe God that are
struggling in these in these areas right
that just by that word alone will be
they'll reject it you know never would I
deny that I'm alone you know Jesus
Christ my Lord and Savior
no to the death and didn't be on but at
the same time there's a certain approach
I believe that we have to take we as
artists in music whenever we're trying
to um when we have a certain goal in
mind you see what I'm saying
and my goal is in my music is to inspire
and uplift people that have been in
struggles and in many years of addiction
many years of prison many years of you
know just abuse and things like like
spiritual mental abuse you see what I'm
saying and I try to touch on a lot of
them subjects on on my album while at
the same time giving glory to the one
that set me free from the many years of
trials and tribulations one of the
deeper tracks I mean there's I mean all
of them are deep I don't think there's
any just fun playful tracks most of them
were just deep heartfelt testimony type
stuff coming out of the struggle but now
where you are now but one of the main
ones on there is kind of what we titled
this episode which is in title 4 Makia
and it's talking about cooking dope it's
talking about running through the woods
on staying up for five days like crazy
stuff and I really
I really want to get into it and go down
those paths because on the show
especially a lot lately we have a lot of
Christians on here and we've been
talking about the glory realm and been
getting caught up with God and ecstasy
and aesthetic encounters with God in the
euphoria of the presence of God watching
over you and traveling to heaven and
having beautiful dreams from God but
there's an there's a an opposite end of
that spectrum as well where you having
dreams from Satan himself right and and
and you're you're just you know in in in
a realm that's you're interacting with
demons and you're entertaining them and
you're letting them in your aura talked
a little bit about your song pharmakeia
and we'll just dive into it at first
that was great well there's so many ways
I could approach any of what you just
mentioned but I would say with the song
for Makhija
I tried to hit the highlights of what
you said earlier like the horror stories
I tried to hit the highlights and that
um you know when I started off when I
started off doing you know music it was
it was crazy because I was actually in
my Miss B something you see what I'm
saying I never did tried to promote it
or anything like that but I would
literally I would I would write music
and I would go through things and you
know and I knew that one day maybe I
would I would pursue that but until that
time methamphetamin had me it had a grip
on me and it had had a grip on me since
I was 13 years old you see what I'm
saying um started off great loved every
bit of it I mean you know for memories
and it seemed like everything was gonna
go good when you're a kid you don't
really see going forward you know what
I'm saying
but um what ended up happening was they
worked like with this song here is um
you know I said I wake up with this dope
I go to sleep with this dope I'm cooking
every other day it's just the way that I
cope it's become a way that I started to
cope with how I lived life it become
something that if I didn't have I was it
normal you see what I'm saying which is
a scary place to be because that's such
a strong drug that whenever you me
whenever you um whenever you get trapped
into that you know where that's the only
thing that makes you feel normal when
you get trapped into that youth that
you've hereby stepped off into a
spiritual battle you see what I mean in
that song
it's literally hitting on all the topics
of how the same way you would fast for
God and he would pray you know his face
is the same way I was doing like you say
for the opposite but I would stay up for
days at a time and I would inject this
drug into my blood vein and in our
ginger and you would bodies on that
would allow me to you see what I'm
saying and it caused a pattern of me not
only being corrupted myself but being
the corrupt door you see what I'm saying
and then that song touches a lot about
that as well and how you know how it had
its grip on me and how I would literally
see the spiritual warfare you see what I
mean literally see the spiritual warfare
and you got study to where you know
people call it I would say I would say
people call it shadow people you know
that's pretty popular we know in the
drug game or whatever you see you're
tripping you're seeing shadow people but
uh I never really believed that even
even in my mess always was a man of
faith in my heart you know even though I
ran from it but uh I literally would
dance with these demons and I would see
these demons people call him shadow
people but I would see them and they
would talk in and they would talk to me
and it was crazy because the way that
they talked to me was like they would
lie and it would make me feel like it
was me talking to me you see what I'm
saying like they're motivating me to do
this oh man that's just you singing that
they put a disguise you know like a wild
know your spirit or something right
directly right and then with this
disguise they would lead me to do things
to wear my conscience in it when I had
what I thought of I've done it for so
long that it didn't even matter you see
what I'm saying it no longer even
mattered what whether it was me or
whether it was you know I was being like
demon-possessed but I can assure you
this that any time that you spiral down
that path and that you you stay you do
this poison and you inject it and matter
of fact you cook it that's another book
we'll touch on that but whenever you're
cooking this drug yeah
um you know you're mixing you're mixing
potions man you're mixing you're mixing
chemicals that are and I believe this
without my heart that when you inject
these chemicals you're mixing your
you're injecting them demons you are
you know the demons will infiltrate your
body when you do that you know it's just
a drug it's just that no you know the
enemy wants us to believe that I believe
with all my heart he literally wants us
to believe that but and then he'll come
into disguise of drugs or whatever you
know but in my case it was it was the
meth and there was there were so many
times like in that song that even
mentioned you know I said I was scared
to look at my own reflection because
when I looked at my own reflection I
didn't see me I've seen whatever had
whatever possessed me me when I looked
it wasn't me but once again get hot
enough all that doesn't matter you know
what I mean because I'm good it's just
it's just the drugs I'll get right one
day but really it's a slow decay you
know well yeah but that songs like it's
it's literally for anybody that's been
through that road and that's experience
that uh that I'm not gonna say just myth
as a whole because I did a lot of stuff
but you've experienced dabbling with all
that then you cannot see you can see
that you know it's there's way more to
it than just drugs it's a spiritual
warfare we fight it's not just drugs and
that's what that song is touching over
yeah overall yeah it's not it's not just
meth meth is a big one heroin addiction
opiate addiction suboxone trying to come
off of hard dope like there's so many
there's so many man it will kill you
like it will turn you into I have family
members who they're they're not them
it's like The Walking Dead you know what
I'm saying
right that are on it right now and to
make you do stupid stuff right stuff you
would never do so the name of the song
is pharmakeia and that's what we've
titled this episode we know what that is
for people who don't know what that word
is pharmakeia
touch a little bit on on what it means I
know it breaks down to the Greek that
it's the word for sorcery is where we
get the word sorcery but the word
pharmakeia breaks down from the the it
is the Greek word from our English word
or Latin translation pharmacy drug and
pharmaceutical companies are practicing
in a form of witchcraft and sorcery when
they are cooking
up and breaking down molecules creating
new substances that are getting people
addicted and all of this kind of stuff
so what word where does that go for you
as far as like the whole pharmacy side
of it and to being sorcery in witchcraft
like you said literally it's injecting
yourself with demons opening up portals
to the other side you know those type of
things yeah well with me whenever I I
learned to uh when I learned to cook
when I learned to manufacture it you
know I learned it several different ways
but in that process and it was a slip
now it was a long time before I ever had
this revelation in my head what I was
actually doing what was going on but um
I literally and I can say this with all
my heart literally seen the pattern for
me to wear when I would cook the drug I
would I would do it I would get hot felt
good I would give people the drug you
see what I'm saying
but the more that I did that the more
that I continued to to mix these potions
it became something like an agenda had
on my mind with what I was gonna do I'm
going to mix these potions I'm gonna I'm
gonna create the substance in order to
brainwash these people to give me money
in order to brainwash these people to
give me sex in order you see what I'm
saying I'm just being a man just being
honest and and that's what and that's
what it ended up being and I knew that
if I can mix up this chemical
I can literally brainwash this person if
they're willing to do bishhh about
whatever I wanted them to do and that
become more of an addiction than just
doing the drug you see what I mean
because you feel like you have this
sense of power you know you still you
feel like you have this sense of you
know like yes you just can't be touched
because you're making something nobody
else you know have or are this is
different than everybody else's you know
and um and for me
when I had the revelation and I set back
and I said wow what I'm doing is really
no different than once your everyday
scientists do in the lab and in
justified as it's gonna cure something
or help something but their agenda is
money they're gonna get the money from
it it's gonna be something great we
might even get a few side effects off of
this particular thing
we can create something good for them
side effects and when I had that
revelation and then I started seeing the
symbolism with it you know behind the
symbolism behind uh you know for me kill
me behind you know the pharmacies
disassemble itself you know you know the
symbol and in in its in it's so crazy
because that is literally the same thing
I was doing you know that's the
literally the same thing I was doing I
was in you know in a state of where if I
could get this this and that and I could
combine it into one thing not only well
I feel good you see what I'm saying but
I'll also make everybody else do
whatever I want you because they think
they're feeling good but it's really a
slow decay in a slow destruction you see
what I'm saying so when you like I said
you we're talking about you know walking
with the Lord fasting and praying and
getting close to the Father eventually
you know so close you can see his face
you know when he's around you start
attracting and angels around you and
things you know you can see your angels
if you're doing a good thing but on you
know for that to be true then the
opposite has to be true as well if
you're doing dirt if you're lying
stealing cheating you know messing over
people you're gonna attract those type
of entities around you as well
and then just having them around you is
one thing but when you're on that that
stuff but were you you were using it
like cooking it and using it or using
other stuff as well right yes and so you
you could see into the spirit realm what
were some of the things cuz we talked
about it even just the other day just
like you being in the woods and you'd
wake up and think that you were in
another city on some random persons
porch like what was some of the weird
things that you've been around
personally and then you've seen as well
I know you got a without throwing
anybody under the bus I would have saw
though the weird and I've heard of I've
heard of just crazy far-out stuff people
like picking their scabs and pulling
their eyelashes out you know what I'm
saying just on meth and on heroin and
stuff dude and trying to get the lithium
out of their pores scratching their
pores to smoke it and
would smoke it my granny I don't want
though granny under the bus walk granny
she's dead a little dope you know what
I'm saying
and so granny uh she had this lady
living with her and and she let her
smoke right once she her roommate and
crack rock and then after she'd smoke
all the rocks she would uh be on the
ground looking for thinking that she
might have dropped the piece I don't
know that's a that's a common thing
thinking that they dropped one so she
was picking up kitty litter smoking it
putting the kitty litter in the crack
pipe and smoking it thinking it was a
piece of crack and another guy I'm not
gonna say his name really close to me he
would go to the local drug dealers house
and they had bought crack and they go
home smoked it they bought some more and
it would steal stuff and bring it to the
guy and just all night just go get crack
smoked it and then break in somebody's
house take stuff bring it to the crack
dealer get some more eventually the dude
said they was just going get little
pieces of soap and there was selling
them soap and they would go back and
smoke like doves little pieces of Duff's
soap because they had just been up for
so long and they were just just feigning
you know what I'm saying and like just
weird stories like that what are some of
the stuff you've heard that this kind of
stuff as many people do and that's if
that's not demonic in nature I don't
know what is alright so what you just
said you hit on every subject of my life
pretty much at an earlier stage before
the meth ever took place me and the
closest I'm not gonna say nobody's name
but the closest woman in my life really
but deception of my wife we went through
that and and we did the exact same thing
he was talking about literally we would
stay up and we would we would do the
drug together and we would go out out we
would either steal we would we would get
it however we could you see what I mean
but to me in doing and do while I was
doing all that to me that was just a
precursor of something way more that was
that I had in store for me and like I
say so there's so many different story I
can tell you but I'm gonna tell you some
of the craziest things that I've ever
seen and one particular was it's the
same thing that I was telling you at a
at the springs this past weekend we were
um me and me and my uncle were actually
out and he was living in a place called
the few niak Springs Florida all right
he lived in Florida he was cooking his
drugs I lived over here and Alabama in
Mobile I was cooking my drugs he come
over here to visit for Hurricane Katrina
it was Hurricane Katrina he came over
here to visit and when he came he uh he
had you know he had a little bit of
drugs or whatever and uh so once he
finished up once he finished up once the
hurricane came or whatever and we done
up all his dope also to mom says you can
tell him so but no so I'm gonna pick up
right where I left off so um so he comes
over here in does Hurricane Katrina in
him and I on we do we do up all his
dough we do it up you know and you know
we're high my tolerance and I was
probably age twenty nineteen been doing
it already at that time not about eight
years already at that time you know been
doing it a long time it was a slow
process but when we finished that he
wanted to go back to Florida once the
hurricane passed the moon we went back I
thought that town we had been up for a
few days and um Albert sitting in the
car with with my uncle well we was
consuming you know this was eight knit
we was actually eating the dope right
let me tell you man you wouldn't when
you burned up I didn't shoot back then
this is before I ever got into shooter
who's my ego shooter I'm just gonna eat
it I had one too many of them up I've
led to one too many of those of those
demons I would say injure me at a time
but anyways they came in to me and uh I
started feeling like I don't know uh
probably like something like an ecstasy
pill maybe but I started getting these
illusions like LSD and I started getting
so far out there that Gregg was no
longer my uncle he was an enemy yeah he
was he was an enemy heard about Allah
a lot of people having that it was an
enemy right and so he was with his
girlfriend and they was sitting in a
little hammock and I remember just I
remember running up to him and I tackled
through him and I jumped over the
hammock where his girls at and then I
stood back like this and I was like I
really felt like I was fixing to get in
some real like war zone type thing I
mean this is like serious I know it's it
sounds funny but it's true even
beerhouse knew exactly but I was in the
few niak Springs Florida in the middle
of the woods if you're familiar with the
few act there's some deep woods out
there and he just so happened to have a
spot right in the deepest spot but I
remember running off in the woods hi I
said I got to get away I got to get away
and the further I ran in the woods
the deeper then I got caught up into my
own mind
you see what I'm saying the deeper that
I got caught up into where wait a minute
what where am I really at right now oh
no wait a minute I didn't even know why
I met then I started just telling myself
I was at certain places and I would be
there so I said I must be back home
across the street in the neighborhood
why I used to live right
so I remember this I remember going up
to people's houses like it would I would
go and it would be like a little house
in the woods and I run up and I'd knock
on the window knock on the door
luckily nobody came out in shock nobody
even came out but they came out I would
take off in the woods because I said oh
I thought it was and then it got so bad
man to where when I looked up there was
hell like I literally felt like I was it
fighting like a war you see what I'm
saying like maybe the Vietnam one
because it was gunfire
I seen a friend of mine that's no longer
alive was running up to me along with
another buddy of mine and they were
coming to help me nobody was there but
they were there you see what I'm saying
the sleep deprivation that took over to
the point to where I was so in like
distant like I guess it would be us form
a psychosis major or yeah you know or
something like that but it literally
took me to a place to where I was I was
lost in this in this place and if you
knew I didn't know where I was and that
whole night went on I was running
through cow fields I was running through
bushes
I was getting cut up with thorns man I
had blood all over me cut up and and
that went on for the rest of
night from what from all I can remember
but when I woke up the next morning the
little sleep I got brought me back to my
normal meet well a little bit of my
normal me enough to realize why was that
but um this lady Cobb remember getting
woke up to the police and it was shaking
on me they're like son he's like he's
like what are you doing on his lady's
porch and she's like baby just give him
a sandwich don't take him to jail he
said he needs something I said yes ma'am
I do I saw give him some milk and look
I'm sitting here thinking in my head I'm
thinking like okay well first of all
where am I at again because when you've
been up for days at a time that's the
first thing you ask yourself will you
wake up is like what all happened this
past seven eight days okay cool but then
I realized I said wow I'm in Florida I
said and I was like no I was underage at
that time I remember because they had to
call somebody and he come pick me up now
remember that I was like 17 I think I
was 17 and um anyways that they they
felt something they took me back to the
they took me back to the headquarters
right and you know then a family can
pick me up well my grandfather come pick
me up
um and and that was just that was just
worn that's just one of the things that
happened to me that was that's the one
of the only times in my head that I have
ever been so far out of my mind that
thought my own people that I loved and
recognized weren't even the same people
no more you know what he see what I mean
there weren't even the same people and
uh and my thing is this after that all
that did was was just make it to where I
was even deeper in the game because now
month now my tolerant I've been seeing
it all I felt I got an all this stuff
and done everything I mean he couldn't
get no crazier than that well the next
or 12 years then went on like that you
see but um there was a time there was
times when I would I wouldn't be cooking
these drugs there I would be I would
manufacture we would get we would get on
people together you know we would get
people together and they would up we
would all sit around and we get high and
we would all like just do random just
crazy things you know and we would do
stuff that normal people wouldn't do
while they're on it you
but there was specific times whenever I
would be I'd been up for days and we
would be there's a city there's a second
process to the to the dope I'm not gonna
not get into detail about all that but
it's where you actually turn the drug
and the liquid into a powder form and
you to consume it because you know he
can't drink you know ether they ain't
gonna do no good at Kate probably but
once you went you turn it over to
consumable form then then that's
whenever you can do it but I remember
the time that I was uh I was I was I was
smoking the dope off when we were
sitting there not as I was I was I was
smoking the dope off my cousin was with
me man it was a weird vibe in that house
man and I believe those weird vibes I
believe when you've been up for days at
a time you you heighten your sense of
awareness in a way you you you can you
can literally you can almost feel that
somebody's gonna come pulling up to your
driveway like ten minutes before they
come I've done it I've grown at me and I
could never argue that point nobody and
then convinced me otherwise because I've
literally done it literally thought
things right on up you see what I mean
well we was we were smoking dope off man
and uh and this is just something that
was pretty cool but though that's in
there cuz this was very cool and what
I'm telling you is is as real as this
podcast is right now here we're not
talking we are we were smoking the dope
off and been up for days man yeah but as
we was in the middle of it I heard a
loud thought boom I'm like man what is
that
no and I look and I see no a book and
fell off of the a book and fell off of
the um the dresser man and even to this
day I get chills thinking about it but I
went up to the I went over there and I
look just to pick it up and put it back
on the thing right in the meting finish
what I was doing when I got over there
it was a book on interdimensional demons
in spiritual warfare I believe is how
that was pronounced it was something
interdimensional in sins in spiritual
warfare here you see what I'm saying
and that was very very odd because it
all I can't be kind of like wow this
like I'm fighting things I would always
run from myself I used to have I said in
the song and for make' I said
always running from my shadow cuz I
thought it was a ghost literally I would
be walking in my house and then I would
speed up and I would go hide I get in a
room and I just felt like something was
on something was like right on my back
you know was always watching me you know
so the more that I did the dope and the
more that I stayed up the more that it
became like just like an everyday thing
and it no longer was fun when I started
off doing it it was fun we had a great
time I thought and it was a slow decay
it was it was a process of me literally
getting into to where I was um I was no
longer me and I was fighting against me
in these demons you know in the
spiritual war these entities these
things that were trying to take me out
but I was working with them in order to
do that you see what I mean
and um and it was it was constantly was
like that I would I would do it then we
would stay up then it was repeat the
process do it stay up experience some
crazy things and then repeat the process
and uh and it just became it became a
pattern man and it was it was it was a
sick thing man but I really thought I
was gonna die doing it I guess you could
say I really thought that it was that
was gonna take me but I was willing for
that to happen and I didn't really mind
because of the fact that you know I felt
like I was what I was meant to do I felt
like that's what I was meant to do that
my life would just amount it today no
but also at the same time in my heart of
hearts knew that if something was coming
against me at this rate of speed and
something that's coming against me this
significant that there's got to be
something more that I'm called to do
yeah something's trying to take you out
for a reason
that's opposition for a reason look man
we're gonna go to a quick commercial
break I'm gonna play these quick
commercials and one of the commercials
is our event that's coming up I'll play
that we'll talk about it on the other
side I've got some more weird drug
stories that I've heard about and
experienced myself I want to hear from
you we also got some questions from the
chat if anybody has any questions let us
know and I'll try to translate them over
to Justin but we're gonna take this
quick commercial break we'll be right
back
so the encountering Jesus the hem of His
garment meditation man if you guys are
familiar with the story in the Bible
with the woman with the issue of blood
you're pretty much coming at it from her
perspective so you translate it back to
ancient Jerusalem 2000 years ago and
you're walking through the streets
now there's ambience we have voice
actors and all of these things that
you're encountering people walking
through the streets and as you're moving
through the crowded streets there's
things on the left and on the right
they're trying to get your attention
there's vendors trying to sell you
things there's groups of ladies that you
meet who are trying to pull you off the
road they're trying to gossip about you
you see all of this stuff going on but
you see Jesus straight ahead and you're
just trying to focus on Jesus with all
of these different distractions that are
coming and the different distractions
that I put in there was something that
God translated to me that people were
dealing with and some of it was stuff
that I have conquered in my own life
that I was able to just to kind of start
rolling with it when the Lord told me to
go there but it's dealing with gossip
it's dealing with slander
backbiting inconsistency and getting
pulled off the path so as you're going
through the meditation you're being
ministered to for some of these areas in
your life that we've all struggled with
so again you're pushing further you see
Jesus ahead of you and you just know
that all you got to do is get close to
him everybody's fighting for his
attention and you just know you just got
to get close enough just to say hello
just close enough if he can see me I
just got to touch him
and so you go in and I don't want to
give it away but you go in and you
encounter the love of Christ you
encounter Jesus he ministers to you and
it's just this beautiful encounter that
you have and it's about 16 minutes but
as you have this encounter I've also
created these meditations so that you
can just kind of keep going as you go in
you're already deep into the trance
State you can kind of keep going with
the encounter so the music continues to
go for an hour so this testimony is
about people who are going in and
they're encountering Jesus they're
encountering God they're encountering
angels and really just getting downloads
from the father's heart for their self
so I urge you to check it out the
encountering Jesus the hem of His
garment meditation and I guarantee that
you'll be blessed from checking it out
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for the event oh let's talk about the
event for just a moment really need to
talk about it at the end because the I
mean the person who's playing the piano
there is Justin Caldwell so influenced
so he's gonna be at the event with me
we're gonna be doing some music together
some some of our songs also he's going
to be leading instrumental worship so in
a time of prayer and meditation justin
prophetically plays the piano
spontaneously and and the glory of God
shows up and so if you just tap into the
presence so that was him playing over
that I'm excited for the event man do
you want to say anything about that
before we jump back into the stories man
it's gonna be great it's actually
listening to that particular piece and
that particular piece is it's got a lot
of meaning because it's something I
learned that particular piece while in
the middle of my darkest you see what
I'm saying so it's got a lot of meaning
how that's been brought to the light in
that particular piece that was done in
the dark has brought a lot of people you
know helped a lot of people you know
feel the presence but yeah it's gonna be
great floor to UM you know to just to
play a man and administrate ministering
through the music it's gonna be good I
guarantee that if you're at that place
and and if you're at that place and
you're ready to receive something you're
gonna receive it I promise you while
there's no even there's not a doubt if
you're in there and you're watching
right now I promise you're gonna receive
something you do not want to miss this
yeah it's gonna be good definitely you
are found what you're looking for we
talk about it all the time you find what
you're looking for if you're looking for
evil if you're looking for the
wrongdoing everybody's doing if you're
nitpicking people and tearing them apart
you're gonna find it if you're looking
for whatever you look look for you fine
and so this is an event where all of us
er
for the most part as far as I know it
versus the people who don't know yet
they're gonna get to find out but we're
looking for an encounter with God man
we're looking just to love on God share
our stories to get into some deep
teaching about how how good he is and
how deep and complex we are and how we
receive his love so I'm looking for that
your
looking for them and there's people are
gonna be traveling from all over looking
for that so when we come together
looking for that there he is in the
midst of us so it's gonna be good man
I'm excited about it and yeah so Christ
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Christie folks thank you my friend
she just left the comment she says this
is one of my favorite podcasts right
right here only because it is so similar
to my experiences I'm almost having
flashbacks right now so thankful I made
it through the lessons learned a lot of
people don't make it out you know what
I'm saying and somebody said you're
lucky to have made it out and then says
no you're blessed to have made it out
but she wants to know did you ever have
any near-death experiences where you
almost died maybe physically or maybe on
drugs like what you may have taken too
much and have done the mullet lose
control of your body like have you ever
had in any of those have been around
people who were overdosing or whatever
just done stupid stuff walking into the
interstate while they're on dope like
all that I think all of that's kind of a
form of near-death experience and it all
has happened but what about you men you
know I've literally had so many things
that in my head that you bet it takes
them kind of questions to really make me
remember things because there's so many
of them you see what I'm saying but yeah
with me personally I did overdose one
time I was I was home I was doing hold
on I was shooting Matt been up on meth
and I tried to bring myself down to
sleep by shooting came forward a lot of
and I live I had died very few people
know about that the person I was with at
the time they uh they um they tried to
revive me I mean it was a slow process
they didn't want to call the police
because they were scared that something
was gonna happen to them and I was out
for like a day and a half but my heart
was still beating I was cold a little I
know that's how I had overdosed I mean
that's simply what it was I'd overdosed
but I I guess I never let go I just
remember waking up and I've never been
that
nauseous in my life up this I was so
nauseous you know and I was sick but um
that's the closest I think that I've
ever came to death by overdose but by
certain events that's happened now we're
drug inspired like maybe flipping the
car and wrecking and running from the
police and stuff like that I mean that's
very acid that's a very deep don't know
if you want to talk about that when
that's pretty big it's good now don't
get me wrong yeah if you feel like it's
worth sharing man I mean I know like
you're saying like you know and we you
know we're gonna I wanna I want to make
sure that we do this though cuz like
we're gonna talk about some of these
stories and some of our personal
experiences that old man is dead like
this person died in that stuff right
we're on the other side that was BC this
is AD this is after the death and of
that person in the death burial and
resurrection of Christ after the gospel
so even when we're talking about the
stuff I don't want it to seem like we're
glorifying it but you need to know how
real it is you need to know that
everything is in just love and light
like as we're just in our puffy and our
heads are in the clouds there's people
who are really still going through this
and sometimes when you're in the glory
when you're on this side of the Cross
that person gets further and further
away and years have passed and you
almost forget about the struggle you
forget what it's like to be half-demon
speaking to you in the middle of the
night you forget about that person going
through that stuff and it becomes about
your family your career like this side
and you just like man something we have
to be reminded man of that just so that
we have that compassion there so want to
just keep that in mind because you could
because there's some times and we're
gonna we're gonna pray at the end I want
to make sure that we pray for anybody
who's going through this stuff but
sometimes when you talk about it you
feel those spirits that kind of lurk up
and kind of laugh and you feel like
maybe they're still there or you feel
dirty after even talking about and you
begin to remember your own sin and
that's not the person that you are
anymore but we want to make sure that we
pray after this because this is this is
spiritual warfare
it really is this is where the rubber
meets the road and we're talking about
this stuff and they you know spirit
spirits want to exist on this side of
reality and so they like it when we talk
about them they've kind of feel like
it's maybe honoring them or yeah I tell
them what I did you know what I'm saying
but we're gonna tell you what he did so
hang on anticipate that because the
stories get even better on the other
side of the cross so let's go just a
little bit deeper on on some of those
experiences near-death experiences and
things like that that that you've had on
pharmakeia sorcery witchcraft and these
type of drugs right okay so um I've got
one that resonates with me it wasn't my
near-death experience that was one of
the closest ones I've ever had like I
say besides the UM you know they were
running from the flow and flipping the
car but this one here really stuck out
and it came to me during the commercial
this was a very significant time this
was like almost the crossroads in the
pivot point of of my life went with the
spiritual thing so I was in a place
called wings of life it's a Christian
rehabilitation drug treatment center in
itself it's a very I mean you know
shout-out to the wings of life of what
they do and how they if no they're they
allow you know that place to for God to
work on people there it's a great place
but when I got out of prison I decided
I'd go there they tried to get the
certificate so when I had these other
charges they would probably not just pop
back up on me if they did I'd have the
certificate but this is cool so while I
was in the wings of life man I had
somebody that's uh I know very well they
came to me and I said man look I need
you to bring me some dope man and he's
like man I can't do that man I can't do
that I'm like well I said I wish you
could he's like nah I can't
and so uh it ended up happening is I
never did get it but a buddy of mine
that was in there he R he was getting he
was bringing it in right and so he was
injecting drugs was injecting us saying
on proper we was actually injecting dope
in this rehab and this in this Christian
rehabilitation center correct so it has
what they're I mean what we're doing it
became like a habit and I would be
scared to stay up more than two days
because things in a place like that
really start getting weird you know what
I'm saying you really start questioning
about
about ghosts or demons and oddly with us
I can really see him do we have to be in
a certain state of mind to see them are
they trying to kill us and take us out
you know but while I was in this place
the guy we was doing the Joe's together
with staying up and they would have
service downstairs and I would be up for
so long and I'd be on this on the
substance main and in if this is so this
is so crazy now I want y'all to follow
me now so I would go down to these
services man and the conviction was so
heavy when my spirit well I'm sitting in
a spirit-filled you know body of people
that are thirsty for Christ that are
crying out and hear me and a couple
other guys that are you know the darkest
things in that place at the time who's
fighting these demons man and I allowed
me to see a spiritual battle of
spiritual warfare man
well they got so deep as the months went
on we were doing it we was staying up we
we thought we was beaten in in you know
we thought we was literally getting over
all this people and we're gonna graduate
you know we'll get back out to the
streets well while we was in there man
pastor Chris which is I love that man
the man of God and I've mentioned his
name and it's if you know pastor Chris I
mean that's a man of God from him he's
he's I've known him for a long time and
I've enough and he's touched on things
that you'd have to know God in order to
touch on you know whenever you're
talking to me because because he the way
you resonated with it he would come up
and had these services now and all this
is what resonated with me rather he
would have these services and they would
be on what is done in the darkness will
come to life not knowing so I'm sitting
there in as he's teaching this like it's
a sign it's definitely a sign as he's
teaching this I would be in my in the
Word of God and I wouldn't be sitting
there how in this chunk and I would be
getting revelation from the Old
Testament from the new I would be
getting this weird like howl drew and I
know this way out of my mind yet still
getting these revelations you see what
I'm saying I was still being like was
getting things for Bill to me but um
after the service I remember one morning
off it was the next morning a service
that happened pastored had come running
up
and he uh he said Justin I had a dream
about you and about Busby he's no longer
with us God bless his soul but he said
that uh he said Justin I seen you as a
prophetic dream you said Justin I see
you sitting on at the end of this
hallway at this desk at this table and
then he said but I seen a scene busking
with us I've seen him with you but I
think it was a door it was dark where he
was that it was a dark like the hall it
was dark you see what I'm saying and at
the end you couldn't really see him but
you he was steady walking down that path
and he see he said he said I don't know
what it is Justin he said but I do not
tell people things like this unless I
feel it in my spirit now this man nobody
knew what we were doing in there we had
it what God did obviously but no body no
human know what we was doing because we
had we was covering ourselves enough for
that you know at least we knew that much
but uh fast forward a little bit man and
I ended up having to leave out of there
man I got this just I got chased out of
there myself I couldn't handle the
conviction of being in a Holy Spirit
field place and being the most you know
demonic thing in there at the time but
um a month later the guy that was moves
in there with and we was doing the drugs
with ended up getting shot and getting
killed in a drug deal um you know and it
was so crazy because the first thing
that I thought about was that dream that
he came up and told us about now know
what I'm saying I mean this is as real
as we are standing here you know it hit
me so hard that there's certain things
in life that happened to you near-death
experiences seeing people dying going
and driving down the road and seeing a
car wreck and you know sometimes you had
these things like these thoughts like
wow and you makes you think about life a
little bit deeper yeah literally that
was one of those things that you know
you can't deny God at that point you
really can you can but you're just lying
to yourself because the signs are there
and I know that I was able to do all
that dirt and all the drugs in that
rehab and see the spiritual warfare and
see all the things happen and you know
it was it was this leading up to me
being given my life up a hundred percent
you know what I'm saying given my life
these were the things that led up to
that because it was
so many nuggets that I remembered like
like God was like literally in my
darkest allowing me to see these things
and I will say this too now this
distance makes it's just only right
because when the podcast but your album
was Massoud awakened the fire I believe
it was was out you know I was listening
to it man and it resonated with me very
very strongly and at that time Brandon
had an amp an album out Bernie Sanders
had an album out as well and those I
would listen to him Enrique like
literally I'd be up all night laying on
my bed like this everybody else is
asleep lights out and I just be
listening this music man and I just I
was just like fighting you know in my in
my in my spirit man was fighting but all
this music was ministering to me the
services I would go to would Minister to
me they were talking about the very
things that I was fighting with nobody
knew what we was doing I would walk down
you know just in the aisle and I'd get
this weird feeling it I had to get away
from it you know because it was whatever
I was feeling was like or something good
and I didn't want that you know but all
this happened in there was like leading
up to me you know just throwing it up
and surrendered you know right where I
just I couldn't do it no more I mean it
was it was it was wild it was definitely
crazy to see him to die like that it
really opened my eyes up because how can
you come to me with a dream that you're
telling me that you had and it fit the
description so perfect especially now as
I see that you know I finally came over
into this side of life you know my life
is that white hallway now it's not that
dark one but for him to have pinpointed
that you know I mean spot on it was it
was just it was amazing man and that was
really an eye-opener for me especially
they know now and as I look back at it
you know yeah that's do you man
got in and even there's some weird
things that happen in those realms in
and it's almost like gods reaching out
to you in there because because of his
love because of his grace talk about
like I remember years ago we were
smoking pot and drinking as teenagers
what flipping through the television and
smoking a joint and put it on this
channel and it was like a creek it was a
Christian
channel we didn't know it when they were
playing like Christian metal and the
song was going off in a sound like corn
or Manson or something pretty cool and
then it went to the next segment and
it's dude there's a car do come running
and jumping across the hood of the car
say hey hey you there yeah you with that
joint yeah I'm talking to you man I want
to let you know that God loves you he's
got a plan for your life man put that
joint down I'm like what it's just like
God knows what he's doing mantis to line
it up for me to see that at that time
they're just like man I mean there's
just little things man warned you hey
yeah I'm praying for you hey this that
you know so as far as like the
near-death experiences and stuff like
all right so it could be weird and in
those other realms because there's no
such thing as space and time right and
you can feel that and it feels weird so
I heard a story of a friend of mine told
me and it really it led one of my
buddies back to God and they were having
a party at his house and all of these
peace no big parties and it was a bunch
up in there and only a handful of them
probably six guys all took LSD right at
this huge party next thing you know
about an hour later everybody's gone
except for the people who had done the
acid and and they start panicking like
hey man I feel funny man and they try to
like one of them just kind of throws the
thought out there and says hey man I
think we're dead you know I think we I
think we died I think that stuff was
poisoned that's how they get you in your
head cuz you're already on that stuff
and they say I think it was poisoned and
everybody just watched panic and
thinking of the worst-case scenario
right they one of them gets on the phone
and tries to call family members and
friends and nobody will answer and it's
just ringing and ringing ringing they
turned the TV on and they turned it to
TBN the Christian Channel and there's a
guy on there preaching Hellfire that
you're gonna die burn in hell for
eternity and then they were freaking out
thinking that they had died in a sense
it was in this place that felt weird
they thought that they were in
the purgatory they were waiting to be
judged and go to hell for eternity
because there was everything just felt
weird and a buddy of mine one of the
guys who discipled me he was in the
backroom just with the Bible screaming
at God no God no and they're like
panicking freaking out and it's like
that thing that led him back to God man
you know he's like I don't want that to
happen but a lot of people feel that
they've died or they have taken too much
of these drugs and it but then again a
lot of people don't come back they get
what we call burnout they get burnout
one thing it burns out is your emotions
like being able to process emotions and
you get so much dopamine you get so much
serotonin release that you don't even
know it's like the instant it's like the
the rats pushing the cocaine button to
just get that instant dopamine or
whatever just to feel good instantly and
there's things in life that we're
supposed to work at to feel good we're
supposed to complete we're supposed to
put in a hard day's work so that we can
sleep good at night because we've been
working hard all day you know what I'm
saying versus taking these pills to go
to sleep or whatever the case is I mean
there's so many different work arounds
that we as humans have created but they
have all these negative side effects
these drugs right that have the negative
side effects because you didn't work for
that
so these pleasure sensors in the brain
and in the body and the euphoria they're
there for a reason like and they are
utilized we're fearfully and wonderfully
made and we're supposed to be able to
tap into them certain type of ways but
it's not an instant gratification let's
not take this ecstasy
you're gonna immediately love everybody
and everybody's gonna love you you're
gonna have all this energy no because
the next day you're gonna pay for you've
depleted yourself of all of the
serotonin you know what I'm saying all
of the dopamine so the next day you feel
hungover you feel empty because you've
you've like exhausted all of your
resources to be happy the night before
and literally man I've heard so many
stories of people doing that and yeah
that's not the way it's supposed to be
done there's another story I want to
share really quick this interested me of
a friend of mine he's the old hippie man
he got born again
I think in the 70s and part of the Jesus
Movement and stuff right while the
hippies got born-again 60s and 70s all
the hippies got born again and started
going to church but then the pastors
were like forcing them to cut their hair
because they come in there with long
beards and long hair and barefoot and
they look looking like Jesus in the past
were like tell them they got to cut
their hair and they got a talk different
than all this kind of stuff but there
was like a huge revival it's called the
Jesus Movement and a buddy of mine got
born again and during that time but he
told me a story that he was at his house
and he had done a bunch of acid so he's
going through his house thinking he's
got this leprechaun chasing him through
the house with a knife he runs to his
bedroom shuts the door and the things
trying to get in it's literally hitting
his door and up under it six the knife
up under the door so it's slashing back
and forth trying to cut him you know
he'd done a bunch of acid he's freaking
out so it runs to the closet gets his
shotgun and comes up to the door he's
getting ready to open the door to shoot
the Leprechaun with a shotgun he reaches
up there and opens the door and it's his
dad trying to get in he was so stoned
out on that sitting on the stuff man he
almost like shot his dad I've heard a
bunch of stories I've had some crazy
experiences man and of dealing with
people who were on dope you know and
trying to you know crack heads they're
trying to make you smoke crack and I've
seen them beg my brother come on bro
give me just a little piece man yeah my
brother used to sell give me just a
little piece hurt her come on man just a
little piece you know it's like Jesus
you know we said you know there's this
crazy man but anyway yeah feeling like
you're in purgatory and dying I mean
there's just so many weird realms that
that you're in but you you ended up
catching some charges and stuff man
right I don't know if it was stealing or
they caught you cooking or something
talked about and you were facing some
you've done some time pretty much sir
it's time right talk about a little bit
about some of the charges that you
caught man you were facing some time and
you were facing a lot more time you've
done some time talk a little bit about
that man yeah man that's cool man I
could definitely if they come up with
some stuff on that one because uh
overall my time probably I've done six
six in the latter part of six years I
probably done almost seven years total
and um you know my first charge
well I got my first charge when I was 12
years old I got a charge for shooting
into an occupied dwelling and that was
my first that was this like you know the
preliminary to a bunch of stuff that's
that's yet to happen but I ended up up
my first serious charge was uh
trafficking in hydrous ammonia in
manufacturing an illegal substance when
I was 16 years old I caught that charge
went to Strickland went to a boot camp
for it that did about a year near now
when I say six plus years that's the
time I did in prison that's nothing to
do with juveniles but while I'm in there
man um you know when you're in places
like that you're just exchanging secrets
and things you know you can learn to do
to make it better and to do this that
and the other but we ended up us when I
ended up getting out like I say on the
on the possession of anhydrous ammonia
in the trafficking and I got out when I
was 16 and I stayed out for a good bit
of time and then I let me see which then
I ended up catching a another possession
of illegal substance with intent to
distribute now that one landed me into
prison for a year and that's in the
dates to get the dates get fuzzy because
it was it didn't happen all kind of like
almost back to back but I ended up doing
that time you know you know it's like I
never really wanted to change when I
went in I just wanted to you know to
just go in and then it be what it is and
let me get back out go back to it but um
then I ended up this last time this is
what I'm gonna go I'm gonna tell you
this is crazy I mean so there's there's
times all of my charges have been Class
A felonies either trafficking which I
never did get charged with the
trafficking because they never could
find the evidence on it but my charges
have stemmed from like position of
precursor Kim
possession of hydrous ammonia and it's
been a pattern forming since I was 16
with that with the drill with getting in
trouble for that but um I remember it uh
so this last time I'm gonna I'm gonna
I'm gonna tell a story because it's it's
it's intense so we was at my dad's house
it's over in Simms Alabama we was into
his house and uh I was stay in there and
a gas came pulling up a young guy it was
two young guys it was it was all young
we're still you know kind of are but
there's like man I need you to uh I need
you to cook this don't form I need you
to bust this batch for me man I'm like
okay oh I said well what so avoid doing
here man I don't know dude he's like oh
man he solid man his name was stumped
and I remember to this day I said yes
don't lose pretty solid you know never
judge a book by it's cover
so we go out and uh I had got to this
point in my life where I could cook the
dope man you could take me to the
Walmart bathroom and I can come out with
a sack of dhoti not even exaggerating
you hear me not even exaggerating
um but have you done that have you went
and got the supplies in Walmart and
brought it to the bathroom and maybe
I've never done that I've gotten I've
stole every single thing you know think
you know no longer like this disclaimer
but I literally have stole everything
inside of Walmart walked right behind
the woods and cooked it in less than an
hour and walked out with a sack you know
now I wasn't cooking on a major scale I
wasn't doing I was a user you don't
saying I wasn't trying to be king and I
knew that I loved Rush
I loved less like I said it was it was
just sorcery I would love to cook the
dough get this person high get what I
wanted I would get give don't for a
place to sleep
give note for money give no for sex it's
like I said but I got literally gotten
it down to where I could do that in such
a quick time so but what ended up
happening is we ride out down the road
all right you're familiar with you're
familiar with the sins they I know a lot
of people won't be but the sins Alabama
area there's a road called Wolf Road now
my dad lived back there off of Caldwell
Road it's a family owned land but uh we
ride off you know we get all the stuff
and then we're in the car and I'm mixing
it up and I'm getting all together and
pouring this that and the other and uh
now I'm excited man I'm like yeah we
should get high man I've been
not for a minute and as we going us I
did the second part turn it into powder
and we're going back to the house to do
it I had to dope in my hand this just
keep this amount had the doping the same
grit well nobody gonna get it I did the
first shot then I decided what happened
after that
that's just it was just a weird pattern
that I was stuck in my waist with um so
we're on the way back to the house right
and we pull in and uh and this is the
charge that got me where I did the most
of my time right here but anyways we're
pulling in and my dad looked down a long
dirt road like there's woods on both
sides of cemetery which had a lot of
crazy experiences down this road right
but as we're pulling up to the house you
do there's cops
the sheriff's you know sheriff's
everywhere I said turn this excuse my
French turn this and so be around you
know what I mean now and he turns around
but when he turns around cops look back
and they all point this way okay
so kind of a dumb move would have been
smart with you just to pull on in and
then to sit down you know doing air walk
in the house you know everything would
have been good now I turned around and I
knew as soon as we started running they
were behind us they were behind us and
everyone's coming up on us quick
now we was in the 1996 Thunderbird now
if you know anything about the 96
Edition Thunderbirds they hotel they get
up and they go you know well we was up
moves on a high-speed chase at this
point we're going down the road and
we're I mean we're flying down the road
man
I thought we was going 95 miles an hour
in a 45 you know easily well as we kept
on going we kept on going and up we hit
the curve now there's a um you might be
familiar with uh with uh 98 they call it
bloody 98 right there you know well it
runs into a thing called mccrary's when
we was hit was going so fast we couldn't
stop that was not an option we literally
ran the red light turns right and then
we was headed towards MGM school you may
know a marriage in Montgomery was headed
towards marriage AIDS and asked what was
going down that road I'll never forget
it to this day
in the end of a newspaper article they
said that they were weaving erratically
in and out of traffic and it was too
threatening they had to call the pursuit
off what ended up happening is they laid
the spikes out there there's a police
station right
behind this school they like the spikes
out it's like you'd see on TV or
something and he gonna do driving like
like like Jeff Gordon he's driving that
car you know what I'm sayin it the dude
in the backs crying he's crying I'm like
dude I said what I said I do gonna tell
everything if you just go and I said you
know I said you need to Chuck Courthouse
custom care notes and I looked over him
he's like what do you want me to do I
say just keep driving man we went around
the spots we kept going and there's a
road called Seibert right there it's
like maybe not even a quarter of a mile
past the precinct okay by then they had
done put the helicopters in the air now
literally now this is just like
something you would see on a movie you
know these are the things that you know
I know God has a purpose for me because
I'm still alive you see well you talk
about near-death experience this is what
I was this is how this is interacting
with that question I said turn right on
Seibert now we were going 90 miles an
hour you don't turn right going over you
know 15 20 miles an hour he turned right
in the car flip when it flipped I
literally mean it flipped like maybe
three flips and then it landed right
into a police trailer those little bitty
like hitch almost you hitch onto the
back of a truck and you carry horses in
we say man I got literally like here's
your dashboard like let me see which way
you're looking right so here's your
dashboard my legs and all my body I was
in the passenger seat got jammed up
underneath in my face slapped off of the
off of the air bags air bag it came out
but the plastic is what hit me I'll
never forget it and my nose I just
thought water coming down my nose man I
was stuck in the bottom of this car
no never left the hand it was still in
my hand I never let it go and I remember
breaking free I got up out of it and I
took off running in these woods now and
I'm running I ran so far so fast so
quick that all I remember looking back
and I hear birds tweeting you know you
can just it was it was crazy and I
looked on my pockets I made sure I
didn't have nothing on me Hadassah
boxing strip funny you said that earlier
Hadassah Fox you strip on me and I had
the dope in my hand well as I was
running the road is parallel to the
I was running in you see what I'm saying
so I'm back here in these woods no I'm
back here in these woods and the cops
are going sure sure and I've run it up
this way they're going to the scene of
accident they got him yeah they got him
well the guy in the back had ran to I
guess he got spooked and ducked off in
the bushes he ended up getting got but
um I looked across I got a kind of when
I tell the story I gotta kind of get
like like physical with it I look across
the street and uh there's a track team
running you know MGM after school track
team they're little I got you know
praise little man anyway all over you I
told you this story before but I had um
I was in a wife-beater I only have one
sleeve a tattoo as it was justly I had
now mostly protects him know how who be
forgiven right here yeah I should have
had it
Unforgiven at the time but it was
forgiven right and then I um took off
across the stree I made sure the cops I
mean I looked it was really just a risky
thing because I took off across that
Street with my eyes closed basically and
then when I got into my literally
blended right on in with them and I'm
running with the track team or we're
running we're doing you know what I mean
and I'm like who to do I said not look
like I'm even in school you know I'm
saying and we're running and I looked
over at this person and um I'm like I
said think I'm like oh and if look at me
like I'm like oh boy they gonna get me
busted or get me like that you know so I
can't run I hit the corner I went inside
the school bully smooth foolish moon you
go inside the school but I did there was
a sweet little old janitor lady I'll
never forget it I said ma'am I'm
bleeding out my own thorns that thought
cut up cuz I was going through wood like
this Ram bombs I'm not getting do these
bushes you know you know the lace yeah
baby are you okay I said yes ma'am I
don't fill out a tear sprayed myself up
I need to get up and call mama come pick
me up I need go I ain't worried about
practice come up with some excuse right
about the time I got her phone nobody
would answer naturally nobody was
answered I looked over in the cops
pulling into school soon so I said I I'm
screw oh I'm screwed at this one but
keep in mind that dope that I had in my
hand let me let me rewind I ended up
putting that into a old dead tree stump
before I crossed that road to get over
there with the track team you see what
I'm saying go like I can't get caught
no possessions nine-tenths of the law
always knew that in my in my mind you
know what I mean but um so they
literally take me uh I mean I go out and
I remember walking to the bleachers and
I sat down I'll never forget it to this
day man I remember filling a gun here a
gun on my side right here one on my neck
and then the guys like pushing my head
down and they threw me back and I mean I
was a little cocky back then you know I
liked the time I wasn't I didn't care
especially I knew I was in trouble
I wouldn't they said what's your name I
said my name's Bob I mean we went
through it you know literally just I was
just giving them hard time so they take
me back to the scene of the accident
okay and uh and while while I'm sitting
there I'm in the cop car I'm looking
back know they ended up charging uh it
was it was just free cursor at the mall
at that time it was just a precursor
charge they got charged with but um as I
look back where the police had the scene
and all blocked off and stuff a call was
coming and wrecked into a cop car and
almost hit a woman in her kid okay all
this has happened at once I said man I
started looking for the clouds to just
start dropping out of the sky because it
was so weird you know it's like how does
that happen
wow this is happening huh it was just
weird but anyways so um I ended up going
to jail for that man I sit in there for
a long time and I was facing some some
some pretty heavy time for that right if
I already got in trouble well all I had
was the precursor charges when we went
to court a week later they had up my
charges to trafficking and manufacture
okay so that's a serious charge I don't
know how much they catch you with to do
there was nothing they didn't catch
nobody with nothing let me tell you what
happened so the guy that's sitting in
the back seat crying that I said he's
gonna tell everything that Joker stood
beside me in the courtroom while the
other guy that was driving turned
state's turn did the whole nine yards
flip the script on us he took them back
he cooperated on a leash on him
everything he told him everything he
told my color underwear we had all know
he was crazy
but anyways he goes back to the scene of
the accident well I'll do all my dope
trash away yeah in the woods he takes
him back down that dirt road my private
little dirt road he takes him back down
a thing and he shows him everything and
so when we're sitting at court
like fast-forward now when I got Nicole
I mean of course it's it's a normal
thing for people to go to jelly get
holier-than-thou and to read your word
and the next thing the house religion
Reverend Caldwell Reverend you know
that's just how it is your Reverend it
you like it learn yet jump to the church
yeah exactly all that yeah you feel like
in your head I'm gonna do good I've been
clean for the three days now no hope
saying yeah
hey but I really I literally got close
really my relationship with God was
getting I'm not gonna say fine-tune but
it was getting it was getting uh I was
kind of getting the surface the
foundations were laying even though I
was yet to be fully surrendered the
foundations were getting late and uh I
remember going to court man this is this
is the icing on the cake man I remember
going to court tried hard that morning
man it's like seems like whenever you're
in a position like that your prayers
just have so much more substance cuz
you're truly crying out from a heart
you're not just you know what I'm saying
a lot of people I believe when they when
they pray that it's it's the difference
and really calling out and in singles
tournament there's levels to it amen to
that that's perfect but we're standing
in court and there's buddy across the
way I've got the one lawyer that
everybody says you don't want to have to
come up man you know look I set him up
for the kill so as I'm sitting here the
cop is uh you know him and another dude
I'm looking at that dude like I never
thought about being the violet really
much in my life but I really like felt
like like violence in my heart that day
you know what I mean I really do not
toll on everybody
yeah yeah I really because it was more
so that I myself that I allowed myself
to trust because the first thing I said
is what's all new doing here I should
have went with that but anyways so the
judge says uh no the lawyer at my lawyer
asked the the staccato this is so good
he says so so he says so you telling me
he says why did you see my client
he said when we found him at the school
look there he had rain in the woods he
says okay okay so will you find my
client do you find what you find on my
client he said uh well I mean he didn't
have not known even must you got rid of
or something
okay okay okay he's like uh all right
well how many people seem that my client
run from the car and there must be at
least one person seen the client but he
said uh well we the driver you know the
one I was standing now he's like that I
mean he who said he was with him the
whole way he said your honor
so you mean they're telling me you can
go to Mississippi you can pick up the
normal Joe Blow you can bring him back
to the scene of the accident and say he
cooked a boat he said it makes no sense
you know and I'm sitting there like wow
I'm blown away like like wow this really
does make sister they didn't catch me
with nothing and then in the judge
looked at him and said well did you find
anything on my client and he uh did you
find anything on mr. Caldwell whatever
no are they and my other buddy no we
never we never did finding that he said
why are we standing here he said this
don't make sense he said look I'm gonna
keep the possession charge on you until
you go to court and you can get that
third out once you go to court I'll you
can cop out today and go home and they
ended up charged an old buddy with the
stuff they found cuz he took them to it
hey they always say in the game you
never snitch because you don't know how
it's gonna unfold you just don't do it I
know I'm not in the game I'm not you
know with that whole like odd no buts no
I've never did yeah no I did my time
because I didn't but that's not what I'm
gonna get no I'm getting at is that it
was so crazy how that painted that
lawyer had probably dude total and
everybody was telling on himself because
they didn't never caught on with nothing
Wow - a precursor charge okay and
research the charge was still was
something you know I mean it was crazy I
mean but I had to get out that day I was
tired of being in there MUPs hungry I
was tired of being there so I copped out
to the precursor charge and I get back
out and uh you know I start I went even
harder but anyways I ended up uh they
ended up running in my house overall
that was the last charge that I got
whenever they swarmed the house and girl
I was with had TechSmith on me because I
was cheating on her with this other girl
that was there it's this point how that
dope the sick twisted dope game goes and
they swarm the house they laid everybody
down I took the round as fast forward in
this fort I took the rap for everything
he's asking about the charges and all
and how that I've played it part of my
and this is the last time everybody
never will got
yeah but he uh literally they swarm the
house I took this they wrote a statement
on me
I wrote a statement on myself but so my
dad didn't go to jail nobody went to
jail no Greg didn't go to jail none of
them went to jail right and uh they
ended up taking what I didn't realize is
I'm a hot [Â __Â ] will offender and at
that particular time there was a hot
[Â __Â ] rule offender law that says that
the only thing you will be eligible for
would be a life sentence if you have
three or more Class A felonies dude I
was rocking in Class A felony I had a
lot of you know like I was getting like
it didn't matter ended up I ended up
facing a life sentence on that and in
doing a lot of time while waiting to go
to court for that that sin that that had
never came out of grand jury to this day
it's sin sin grand jury almost seven
years now since and in grand jury
waiting yeah I mean be you know that it
would come out but it's not going to
because I know God I know I know we
covered that if I mean I just feel like
a comforting my spirit but um the lady
that arrested me she said that she said
maybe one day you'll get it right she
slammed the door this is where it gets
good because I want to tell you these
nuggets I will tell you the whole stuck
I don't want to drag it out yeah buddy
good so fast-forward i'ma marry my wife
I'm living I got a life and you know
just been redeemed full full of life now
and I'm going to give my uh my testimony
man this is probably five years past all
that crap you know well there's a little
yeah something like that somewhere
around tell me but past fourth you do
that I'm giving my testimony at a church
that Pastor Brian had got it was
actually his pastor well not one of his
first pastor before yeah you know I give
my testimony man you know my way out
me and Lauren give her testimonies we're
walking out I feel this lady's hand on
my arm and I look back and she said son
you know who I am and I looked and it
was the exact same arresting officer
that that arrested that uh that threw me
in jail had took me to jail and it was
so crazy because the night before you
maybe for me with the house of horrors
we wouldn't learn and I was helping with
that to walk through and you know
explaining real-life horrors no no and a
lady come up to me and she said just and
she said and I never met this lady she
said Justin
than you've been praying for and your
heart is fixing to come true it's fixing
this fixing to show itself to you and
you were gonna have a piece about it a
comfort about it and I'm thinking you
know we're gonna have this out we was
just buying this house now my here we're
gonna get the house as it's locked and
loaded you know my main simple-minded
then the next day that happens so not
only is like a peace of mind then I'm
sitting you're wondering like if that
ever came out of grand jury that's the
arresting officer she sees my life you
know how my life has changed do you see
what I'm saying and in it would uh it
would literally impact me in a head way
because she's the one that's got a press
to charges he knows and she's the one
that's gotta you know put it up against
me but she had a tear
she had a tear in her eye that day man
in yeah there's just so many man like so
but that was the last charge you ever
got now if you had all that up I was
facing the life sentence still in face
no life sentence it's only about the
grace of God that I'm still here and I'm
free you know what I mean but that's a
run through with my charges man I mean
it just got worse worse worse and worse
you know till I finally gave it up you
know man it just that's just high
everything comes full circle man and
like the whole arresting officer being
there when you're sharing your testimony
at some random church thing so if
anything ever came of it she she knows
that you like you've been rehabilitated
you don't I'm saying you've done your
time you're good so just out that weight
being lifted off of you man I know man
this how grateful you all of that
because that was something that was kind
of like a dark shadow that just it was
always there I keep going we're waiting
on you like those demons you know what
I'm saying and it's been taken care of
by the blood of Christ man so do that so
awesome but um yeah but um talk a little
bit about just how just that of you
having that realization was there like a
was there come to Jesus moment or was it
just something slowly but surely just
like just start doing better start
reading the Bible more or was there like
a one time thing where you felt the
light come in and cleanse you and
forgive you or how did that that happen
as far as your conversion to being a
follower of Christ my favorite questions
so far I mean yet
this is that this is the main thing that
I love to justify to I went back to
wings of life the same place I had all
them spiritual battles bothered by you
know pastor had mercy on me and allowed
me to come back for the seventh time Wow
never graduated that program for the
seventh time in took ten five other
rehabs in that one seven times he
allowed me to come back and when I
decided I was gonna go back I said well
I just want to get the streets off my
back I'm gonna get me some food get me
and maybe another good drug dealer or
something or you know for some weed or
just whatever I can get my hands on why
you in here click up and go back out
well God had another plan for me I had
to be willing to accept it it was wild
so I I faked a kidney stone I went to
the hospital one night I was about three
weeks there and while I was there I was
they would give me the lattes give me
just everything I was just trying to get
you know I was just playing the system
playing the game and I was sitting there
and I was playing it you know I mean
it's just just how addicts do you know
and as I'm playing the system they're
coming there I'm like oh I mean I'm
playing at all fine even hurt you know
what I mean they coming here hold up sir
they shooting with the Lada and you know
this that and the other but uh I
remember leaving that night walking back
and they had just had a service in that
to this day I swear I wish that I could
just remember these ladies names that
were there it was sister Linda his
sister a jack it was it was two sisters
and it was on stage now it wins the life
nine o'clock is whenever it's quiet time
nine o'clock quiet time everybody goes
up in the stairs they got 30 more
minutes taking us lights out everybody's
asleep you got to get up at 4:30 more so
that's the coolest man I'm walking in
right whoever's over the over the
sanctuary that night allows me they
unlock the door let me in I got my
little bad my little ibuprofen 800 not
walking by as I'm walking by the stage I
looked over and I said man I'm just
gonna get prayed over I said I'm just
gonna pray over he's proud of my liver
let's just pray over my liver my organs
you know what I'm saying let's ask God
to do you know to heal him because I
know I've been beating him up pretty
free you know really it was like you
know what so I went up there for a
prayer of physical healing right I was I
was definitely definitely like not
expecting what was fixing to happen so
if I go up there and and I remember I
said I just need prayer these ladies
they laid hands on me man one on this
side one left side my brother agent he
was right here and then another another
fellow now all new er he's behind me and
they laid hands on me man and I just
remember I started shaking it was the
weirdest thing I started shaking like I
couldn't move my hand was just I was
like wow I just really kind of wanted to
quit touching me because something weird
was happening slowly starting to happen
and then I just started slowly like this
I just started crying you know I'm
saying it they're like I was I was
shedding tears I was weakened and then I
was like what's going on man then I felt
on my knees man and when I fell to my
knees I've never felt that kind of
conviction is the only whacking I've
never felt the conviction that had so
much love involved with it
it was like so intertwined because I'm
sitting there and I'm laying there and
I'm like lifting up and I'm bawling dude
I mean like tears or dripped
I was like it looked like I mean it was
just dreaming I mean I'm just holding up
and I'm like God and I said I said God
kill me or make me know you and I said
it loud I said it lau didn't even cut
our leader yeah that was it oh man it
was crazy to this day I'll never forget
it and I bawled and I cried me and I was
laying there know this crew they don't
got like oh we didn't realize this was
happening oh man I was at a point in my
life man where I was calling out to God
with a sincere heart man and uh and I
felt the presence of God man and I
didn't know all I did was say kill me or
make me know you but that is that that
was the exact same words as if you say
God coming to my life and saved me it's
the same thing man because since that
day it was a transformation but let me
see what God revealed to me during that
he gave me a revelation he said that
everybody in life whether it's sin
whether it's doing wrong that they form
they form this amount of junk in their
life this junk code or whatever this
stuff that you know that they establish
everybody's levels of it is different
what they do different you know some
people would look at
you know more tense than others you know
what I'm saying but everybody's got this
sinning he said with that now this is
God's revelation to me man I'm this once
any God gave me he said that with
everybody's level of junk there's a
level of love that's made to fit or to
wash out that junk but all he told me
the reason I gave you your portion was
because you were ready to receive it
because you had an open heart he said
I'm not gonna give what I don't think
I'll ever experience that to that extent
again but he allowed me to experience
that because I was at a point to where I
would use it I would take it and I would
run with it you see what I'm saying I'm
not gonna say yes Lord say no okay cool
no something happened to me that I was
wounding to and I said and when he did
that man that night I remember leaving
going up and I was waking people up me I
said man dude I said look serious man
this God thing that they're trying to
tell us man I mean I was leaving I'm a
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mom I shed a tear just now thinking
about it and I was at my buddy's like oh
that's good man discussing no bro I'm
serious man I said you think you don't
understand the significance of this man
God is me he loves you man he's like go
to sleep I'm like God I just wanted
everybody but nobody was it was made for
it was just for me at that particular
time because I was calling out you see
what I'm saying
and everybody's times different but I
believe that God's not gonna just give
you all of you know he I don't believe
that God can allow you to experience
something so precious unless you're
gonna do something with it
he knows your heart in your mind if
you're calling out just just for looks
or just for good you know you're just
halfway doing it you know you have to be
bearable boss I mean skew my from
balls-to-the-wall man calling out for
God it's like like meeting like just
hungry and and it changed my life I went
in the bathroom that night and I've read
the book of Joshua man for Bobby two
hours sit on the commode I mean I what
likes using the bathroom but I was
sitting there because the only place I
could turn lights on to read it man and
since then man like my life has been
different you know after I've literally
changed I never looked back I mean I was
taking uh I was taking like these
prescription pills while I was there I
gave them up I slowly started learning
about fasting you know and about about
getting closer to God there's times I
wouldn't drink nothing but just
like healthy teas you know what I mean
and how to like my old diffusers and
stuff like I would try to keep things
just real peering and like positive in
my area my little my little area that I
had but God slowly revealed to me things
Fanny and he gave me a beautiful wife
that I love it's not just my wife is my
best friend he gave her to me now
the big reason why I'm still doing good
to this day you know what I'm saying no
God allowed everything you know you've
heard said that every man needs you know
there's a good woman for him and that's
gonna complete him it comes to complete
him you see what I'm saying you know
when I found her though he was so he was
too prophetic you know I mean it was the
whole way I found her but so all that
happened and life hasn't been the same
it hasn't been perfect but man I had to
look back I ain't with that to do and
nobody went back to none of that stuff I
mean I was over six years now in sales
2013 September September 14th September
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that's what it was man dude that's
awesome
like everybody's in it just in I'm
saying different different places in
their walk with God you know everybody's
in different places with them but you
know some people it's hitting home for
others it's you know they've never heard
of this before right I wanna I wanna
pray man's like I said we want to pray
for anyone anybody who's struggling it
again we talked about essentially
demonic possession opening up gates and
portals to the demonic realm oh right
I just taped that up early opening up
gates and portals to demonic realms
right through through many different
ways particularly in your case in many
other cases pharmakeia doing
pharmaceutical drugs mixing them
together now this isn't an attack on
plant medicines that's a whole nother
podcast and we've covered that on many
occasions and there's some people in
chat but mixing LSD
mixing crack cocaine methamphetamines
oxy cotton like all of this stuff like
mixing it up to create something that's
pharmakeia sorcerer's well we get the
word for sorcery which is witchcraft
right
anybody who's opening up any of those
portals through that maybe they're still
lingering maybe you're doing better but
there's just still feeling like
something's lingering you never had
those doors shut maybe it's through
other means maybe there's other things
that you've did maybe there's television
shows that you've watched or movies that
just keeps playing over in your head I
don't know what it is everybody's
different right but for anybody who
needs that door shut the one reason I
love Jesus right there's many reasons
but one reason I love Jesus is the fact
that first of all he's the head of all
principality and powers and all of these
spirits every single one of them must
bow a knee to King Jesus at the mention
of his name he is that first and the
last is the Alpha and the Omega he is
the beginning he is the end he is the
Amun he is the final say so all of these
spirits must bow so if you've open
opened up any doors they can be shut in
the book of Revelation it says that he
opens and closes doors that no man can
open or close and guess what if you've
opened up doors or portals or whatever
the cases of you've made contracts with
spirits even unaware Jesus has the power
to close them and all we got to do is
ask him all we got to do is ask them so
brother by faith if you coul pray for
those who have opened up doors to the
demonic realms and who are being plagued
even if they don't even know it because
it becomes second nature like you were
talking about they speak in third person
oh yeah we're hungry it's a demon
speaking you know what I'm saying it's
like oh yeah I'm I want this craving I
want to look at this pornography right
whatever the case is you start feeling
like it's you but it's a spirit within
you trying to coach you on things to do
things to look at contracts to make it
gets deep we can break it down man but I
do believe in the power of prayer bro so
if you will man I'm asking you to pray
and then I'll finish it up with a prayer
absolutely well father father God we
love you and we thank you first of all
we just thank you right now for this
opportunity to come together going and
just share and right now I just pray
that whoever or whatever anybody is
going through out there right now father
God that you come and you give them a
piece there portion of love father god
that's going to eradicate that thought
that's gonna eradicate that king is
gonna gravitate that hurt father god I
know what you've done for me and I know
you can do it for them father and right
now I also pray Lord that you give them
a heart that's ready to receive what you
have for them father god father so easy
to deny you in to justify you know that
you're not there for us or not but God I
know you are thorn and I just thank you
for what you've done already and what
you're gonna do in their lives father
and I just pray if it's anything on them
whether it's drugs whether it's
pornography father God whether they
struggle you know with whatever gambling
whatever it is whether they're just
fighting their own demons like that was
similar like just hard drugs we just ask
you right now father Lord that you just
come and you clicked in Chains off of
them Lord and you give them you give
them a peace Lord the peace we ship this
surpasses all understanding father God
that peace that's gonna help them to
realize what they gotta do Lord and give
them strong will father God to help them
break through those thoughts Lord
whenever they enemy tries to cushion to
try to do the wrong thing father God we
just love you Lord we thank you yes yes
man god I thank you Lord that you'll
break every chain God every chain of
bondage every chain of addiction
whoever's listen no matter what it is
whether they know whether they can
pinpoint where the point of entry was or
those who don't even know God whatever's
ailing them god whatever they have going
on in their body in their mind their
psyche father I speak peace in Jesus
name God peace God to close every door
every gate of entry right now in Jesus
name father got filled them with your
peace fill them with your love God Lord
I believe that light and darkness cannot
dwell within the same vessel God so we
just send forth your light father God
reckon solemn back to you through the
cross father what you've done
you provided a way for us to be saved
you provided a way for us to be set free
from any unrighteousness no matter what
it is God we bless you and we thank you
for so right now we speak to the enemy
we shut the mouth of the accuser any
voices any voices of condemnation tell
them that they've done too much to move
forward that they can they can't move
any move forward because they've done
too much right now we bind the enemy in
Jesus name thank you that we serve the
Prince of Peace so right now we just
loose your peace we thank you for a guy
it is our inheritance to the sons and
daughters of the Most High we bless them
in Jesus mighty name amen and amen
man enjoyed it my brother
um so people want to follow you on on
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this is you have a whole album about
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and just you know if you want to be a
part of something man that that's I
believe that we work together in this
thing man trying to try to you know work
together as a soldiers man in this thing
that we're trying to reveal true can
give life in and help spread what we've
experienced so it would help other
people and that's my mission that's what
I love to do with my music it's just do
to inspire people and to help people
I don't push out of not push religion I
don't push I'm not one of those kind of
people I'm just not that guy I'm not the
one for it I've just I love God I know
what he's done for me nobody can ever
tell me that he's not really
because I know him I've seen up nettie I
felt it's good stuff man
well Justin Karl well influence will be
at the event on September 14th at the
Christ consciousness conference it's
gonna be good
tickets are only 25 bucks and we have a
whole night plan for you guys we're
gonna be doing some teaching worship
hip-hop music shoot we're gonna just do
this we're gonna do this was a lot more
people and it's gonna be good shout out
to Christy folks
she says she's excited to meet you and
wifey when she comes she's excited to
meet your mom who's been hanging out
with us in chat Debra I'm excited to see
Christy meet Deborah as well I think
they're gonna click and give it up
really good because there they both love
the Lord with all their heart so it's
gonna be awesome to see those guys
together I'm excited for that event and
everything else the Lord is doing in our
midst man and dude you're a really good
friend I want to thank you publicly for
supporting my ministry you're a patron
you know what I'm saying that really
means the world to me so thank you for
believing in what I'm doing and bringing
to the table and the feeling is mutual
man I want to honor you and everything
that you're doing so thank you so much
man and uh yeah we'll do it again
brother you know definitely well our
brother Shalom peace peace later yeah
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anywhere you consume media check out his
music is really good like I said we're
featured on a couple songs together on
my end as well one of my favorite songs
that I've done on a hot a sacred sacred
heart space that's a really good song
like I really loved it and he's on there
he blessed it with a verse too so check
that out as well when I um I got this in
so I I got a letter in the mail today I
have a P o box and sometimes I get
letters sometimes I get books and
posters and fan art and a bunch of
really cool stuff people bless me with
shower me with gifts and things you know
and
I got a letter today and what's not it's
it came in the mail and into this peel
boxes in the in the description here if
you guys want to check it out but anyway
it was an envelope and this is all that
was in it was an old-school heaven in
hell I know it's probably backward on
your screen heaven in Hell gospel track
and it just goes through and tells you
about what hell is
and what heaven is and what hell is not
and what hell is it's in it's
interesting we've done a couple shows
and where we've talked about Hell and
the closer we get to the love of the
Father that that thing just kind of
disappears of thinking that there's a
God out there who who desires to torment
people or anything like that for
eternity because they didn't believe or
they had a bad representation of the
gospel or who he is
so I really don't believe that that your
eternal salvation is dependent on my
ability to explain what God is or the
gospel or what heaven in hell is I don't
think that at all but I do I do I do
think thank this person who sent this to
me because they really believe in in
their conviction and I always go back to
the video with Penn Jillette who's who's
a staunch atheist kind of attacks the
Bible really goes against it and
somebody handed him a Bible at one of
his uh speakings and how he's in he said
hey he wrote his number in there and
gave his name and said uh if you have
any questions give me a call love to
talk to you and so I really do
appreciate this and in this the same
sentiment that as Penn Jillette says
it's because he said that he doesn't
respect any Christian who doesn't
proselytize I don't respect you if you
believe that there is a place of eternal
not momentarily
but eternal punishment and everyone is
going to hell by default like by default
you go to hell and unless you hear the
gospel but I learn unless you respond to
the gospel a really good representation
your hearts convicted you move with
compassion and you go to church you get
born again if you believe in hell for
all eternity and you don't tell people
you have to be one of the most
cold-hearted individuals who have ever
existed if you really believe in hell
if I believed in hell I'd probably be
stopping traffic there was a point in
time what we did we did open our street
preaching and we believed in it but I
thank you for this trap if you think
that I'm going to hell right for all of
eternity unless I repent and change from
us change my ways
thank you for sending me this in the
mail even though I don't agree with it I
do I am thankful that you believe in it
enough that you care about me enough to
tell me that I'm gonna go there when I
leave Earth so yeah if you believe
someone's going to hell for eternity you
need to be telling people that right you
do I did a video I don't I don't really
don't either there is either the
Christians of today or some of the most
cold-hearted people that exist or they
don't really believe like if I'm if
we're driving off of a cliff and this is
do they using an analogy like this right
you're headed you're driving down the
road but you can't see it right around
that corner there's a cliff and you're
gonna fall off that cliff and there's
just people who are driving straight off
of that cliff and you see it and you
don't run to traffic and hey wait wait
stop stop if you don't do that and you
just let people and you just like
sitting back because you're scared of
what they're gonna think of you whatever
the case is they're just driving off of
the cliff and you're not telling them
that there's a cliff there
then you one of the most cold-hearted
people and I don't think you know most
Christians will tell you that they don't
tell people about Hell because it's not
popular there's afraid of what people
will think about them all of those type
of things so shout out to the people
even though I don't believe it my buddy
Johnny G he's always on me you don't
understand about this hell thing and
whoever sent this there was no name or
return address on here but whoever sent
that thank you for caring about me and
but yeah again I don't believe in it
we've done a lot of different podcasts
and just had that open discussion about
what hell is and again I posted a
comment the other day on a friend of
Mines thread on Facebook and it said if
Christians will stop worrying about
people going to hell and start worrying
about people who are in Hell right now
then they might change the world who
might be able to change people from
where they get him up out of that place
of eternal darkness where they are now
and I talk about people who have passed
on and they're in hell now I'm talking
about people who who was this whole
podcast that we've been talking about
for the last hour and a half however
long we've been on people who were in
Hell people were strung out on dope
people who are addicted people who were
sinners in need of a savior they need a
way out they've never heard of this
gospel never heard about the gospel of
Christ to tell him pull him up out of
the darkness now not when they die but
now man the gospel and what what Jesus
represents and what he'd done is not
something that he will do is something
that he's already done for Humanity for
all of us and if you put your faith and
trust in what he did then you'll be
saved then you will come into
everlasting life here heaven is not
somewhere that you go when you die
heaven is something that is within us
that we can experience now we can just
like just in his story experiencing the
depths of utter darkness and demons
pulling your mind and whispering to you
and lying to you and
the devil around every corner you could
be so full of the love of God so where
that becomes your reality you see the
good in everything you see the good in
everyone you can start speaking in faith
to the things that are not as though
they were because of the the faith and
love that you receive from Christ by
simply putting your faith within it
there's the peace that surpasses all
understanding we found it in Christ we
tried to find it in other things
peace peace of mind rest for your soul
couldn't find it in any other thing if
you found it in other stuff kudos found
it in Christ and I'm gonna let you know
so that's my story I'm sticking to it I
love you guys I believe in the power of
prayer thank you for praying thank you
for partnering with me and believing
what I'm doing bring it to the table
thank you again for everybody who
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you don't want to miss it go check out
all the stuff that we have lined up
we're doing some I'm gonna be doing some
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vibrational frequencies sacred geometry
how it relates to our body we're gonna
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with that I'm gonna say peace of Shalom
thank you guys y'all mean the world to
me
love you all peace peace
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