Kevin Moore joins TruthSeekah in this episode of The TruthSeekah Podcast as they take a candid looking into channelling spirits, spirituality and answer the question: What Is Channelling?
In October 2008 while at university Kevin Moore started his own online talk show, The Kevin Moore Show. Kevin continues to interview philosophers, paranormal researchers, life coaches, and spiritual teachers. In January 2015 Kevin opened himself up to his own intuitive abilities through channeling. Afterwards, he was drawn to provide a platform that would allow others to access their greatest potential with some of the best spiritual advisor’s. In 2019 Kevin formed the platform Channeling.com. A place for the best international psychic readings and channelers across the world, many of whom were met on his journey while filming his first docuseries They Call Us Channelers.
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Channelling Spirits: Is Channelling Real? - Kevin Moore - TruthSeekah Podcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syl6ieZHmjs Transcript source: YouTube captions truth seeker and or its affiliates are not responsible for any strange phenomena that may occur during or after listening to this podcast which may include the following heightened senses of awareness psychic abilities ufo sightings alien contact time loss out of body experiences ringing in the ears esp lucid dreaming increase synchronicities astral projection telepathy stronger intuition levitation miraculous healings and or remote viewing please be advised to listen at your own discussion won't you come come and take me won't you come come and take everything is ungodly dorks dark side streaming live at truthfika.com she's not a christian give it up your portal to the paranormal esoteric and all things spiritual and now your host truth seeker yo what is up ladies and gentlemen i'm your host true seeker this is the truth 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was doing the introduction there how we met and i think it was it was through your music i think i found you through your music man i really loved the music that you was doing and i think i think i approached it that way but it's a long time ago do you know what i mean yeah for sure for sure yeah i know that's one of the things like music kind of just i feel like it's got a mind of its own i don't even really promote it that much i just created put it out there and then organically it shares and people fall in love with it but the other stuff is podcasts and books and those things you kind of gotta like hey come check this out but the music just kind of does its own thing man so it kind of set it on autopilot for the most part cause i don't even talk about it a lot unless people ask me about it yeah wow right well honestly i mean you know congrats on the podcast and everything you're doing man it's impressive what you've done it really is yeah i just want to say that likewise you know everything you're doing and stepping the bar up and always doing your research and traveling and been paying attention to what you got going on for a while now too and man kudos to everything you have with with the moore show so yeah yeah i've been doing that now for do you know actually is it 10 years i don't know man it's it's a few years now yeah it's a few years now man yeah how many episodes in are you yeah you know i'm just actually relabeling all my episodes because i'm starting my own podcast i'm just turning all the audio over to podcast i think i think it's like oh i thought it was about 900 but it it's around that figure it's it's somewhere around there goodness maybe a bit less or maybe only only a fraction more if it is at your peak how many how many interviews were you doing at your peak like a week um probably about four or five five probably five and and i've kind of tamed it down to three right now because even that's a lot i don't know how many do you do a week how many of you man i was doing two and um trying to do three again and and that's too much yeah you know when you've got the editing in there and you know you're um ah just just did just the everything you know doing the interview editing the interview uploading the interview and tagging it which it shouldn't take too long but it does you know i mean you want to get that all right putting it into the podcast form which you do and everything maybe then you know cutting it down for like shorts or whatever you know like tick-tock or you know twitter facebook it takes time when you're a one-man band don't it it's it's hard man man i uh i've been looking for a team for a long time and i know we all have and i just reached out to my first uh like i would say i would say full-time but part-time employee somebody that i can duplicate myself and say hey this is how i do it i need you to do it and as soon as i i scheduled that and met with her like a huge burden immediately lift it so i can create and i don't have to do technical jogging you know which i've trained myself to do and i know you have to yeah i'm you know good on you for doing that man good yeah i mean yeah i think you get to that point where you have to i mean i'm way past that point do you know what i mean for sure i'm i'm i'm probably working i'd probably get up um about 6 30 and i go to bed about 2 o'clock in the morning and i've been doing that for nearly a year right now probably more probably more it's too much you just i'm you know you just get burned out and you know i think i got to a point recently where i'm like you know wow man what is my passion is this it yeah i know i don't know if you've ever asked yourself that question anymore for sure yeah well it's cool with what i'm doing and what you're doing too because we get to switch it up you know like we can switch the subject matter up of like true because i'll be honest with you like it doesn't matter you just you name it in there like if i'm talking to a bunch of mediums like back to back to back i get like i'm tired of talking to mediums but if i get a bunch of you know christian mystics or pastors or something i'm tired of talking to these people you know or whoever but when i get to switch it up and like okay today we got this tomorrow we got a student of blavatsky or something i'm like oh yeah let's keep it engaging man and switch it up that helps for sure yeah i don't know if i just got to a point where and i appreciate what you're saying everything you're saying is completely i agree with but just for myself personally you know i think this past year i don't know if i've just got to a point of um i think i'm i'm i'm i think if something's either i'm taking myself out of it or somebody's going to push me out do you know what do you know what i mean and and whether that's a whether i really want to do a podcast that that's completely different to this or you know but still got that spiritual sort of sense in it do you know what i mean i was thinking of doing the news and doing you know a spiritual version of the news i've been thinking of that for a long time um i think um i think when you're going through a lot personally i think it challenges you to sort of really you know um push you you know to really think you know what what is it i should be doing with myself and i think i'm just in that phase of a a lifetime right now so well that's one reason i wanted to have you on um because what you represent and you talk to as many people as i talk to and uh we we've we've learned a lot we've put a lot of pieces of the puzzle together you actually own channeling.com it's a business where people can get readings and and call for uh advice and intuition and those kind of things and uh and you interview channelers and and you've dedicated your life to that and you know i wanted to talk to you about it like what have you learned over the years you know like i've titled i titled this episode is channeling real like i just want to get into it with you like i'm a skeptic and a believer at the same time you know and it's one of those things where we have like beautiful spiritual encounters and things that happen but then we get into the marketing we get into the branding and then we find youtubers who were blowing up and we're like yeah i think they're just making a story up i don't think they even had these encounters when the the last person you talked to you felt is genuine it muddies the water and and and that's when i get the heaviness of like man what am i doing i'm just sitting here talking to crazy people i'm going to be honest with you what am i entertaining these people for man like yeah but then you have a genuine connection with somebody who is really legit and it reels it back in home for you can you speak to any of that at all just over the years of dealing with a lot of real reals fakes charlatans all of this stuff well i think uh you know everyone's on their own journey aren't they and i think if someone's going to fake it i just sort of said to myself nowadays well maybe you know what what's it really do is it teaches anything maybe it teaches us discernment you know maybe if anything good comes from something like that yeah i'm sure we're all on our own journey and you know um yeah how how do i feel about what you've just said there as well well i think yeah there's many people that i've had on that i feel wow you know were they were they being honest were they you know but have they really had this experience and uh you know i think that's where um doing the docu series that i'm just about to work back on which is this this docu series this true crime document meets the sort of secret space program and having done that for some time you know and meeting up a lot of people that weren't genuine just even on that um but but you know that some of that stuff just silly you know what i mean most people will be able to work that stuff out but it makes it makes an interesting uh it should make an interesting docu-series but um yeah i i think sometimes people misuse their power i think they've got a gift and they completely misuse it right um that i've seen i've seen from a personal you know standpoint um but uh yeah i mean i'm sure i've i've had many people people on that were not who they said they were but um i think they sort of disappear in the end um you know maybe some of the the decent ones sort of stick around maybe some of the the decent ones are also some of the quieter ones as well you know without you know the um uh what do they call them like having a uh uh publicist yeah publicist or yeah what's another word for that where they have it like an agent yeah yeah i was a bit wary of that yeah that's like one thing that uh i've been talking about a little bit on here even yesterday was like did a podcast and there's those people who fly under the radar like we get we we have a microphone we have a platform you know there's there's money in this you know there's a lot of different things but that doesn't mean we're not genuine right but my heart goes out with those people who fly under the radar who don't seek a platform you know who aren't like hey let me share my story with you listen they just use their seer gifts and abilities in day-to-day life to encourage people to help people they they're learning and they're not like i need to go on a national radio tour and share this with people like those are the people that you kind of get that you know kudos in my book you know because because i know those people you know yeah yeah i think some of the guests that you've had on i've had on as well and some of these guests they don't always get on the massive massive platforms and some of them are really good you know they're really they really you know from their heart they're trying to do the right thing they really are man um but um yeah i mean i don't know how many i've come across that i mean which ones would i say to myself were really good um that's a difficult one uh maybe because i'm not always the one that's seeking i'm just the one that's trying to do the interviews yeah maybe maybe that's so i mean i've always had good mediums to go see you know if i've needed to speak to someone and that's always been useful from doing the show and um most of them have been you know pretty good um yeah let's talk i want to talk to you about channeling just to get your take on it again with that with somebody who's you've been around it i know you're in in the business of it i know you're an honest individual to to to just say what it is that that's happening obviously something's happening people are tapping into something is it a disembodied spirit is it deeper parts of the psyche is it the scapegoat that that allows them to really speak their truths um as an explorer not as a debunker as someone who's exploring this stuff like what what do you think is happening or is all of that happening when we say someone is channeling right yeah yeah it could be it could be all of it right well i think um for sure um some people you know use the the ability of channeling as an excuse to tap into their higher self and it just goes to show that whatever they're tapping into i call it the higher self but some people might call it the soul i'm sure when we cross over it's called something completely different right maybe there's no words for it to even understand it on this level what it's called right um and they're tapping into that space and i i think most of us can tap into that space where we can you know if we just quiet and we meditate and we just speak to that wiser part of ourselves and just let it come through it definitely has got the answers not that i use it and i should be you know i mean there's me saying that we are we've got this wonderful information inside us but do i employ it right now when i need it no um but i should be so it's a reminder just even saying this to you that i should be doing it right um so there's that aspect of it there's another aspect of it where wow you know something is coming through that seems to be way past someone's higher self and and it's some other um intelligence of something that they're calling it one thing but i think it's something completely different right again i could say oh yeah you know they're chanting this you know what you know a discarded entity or something that's in another realm or parallel universe or some understandable understanding of what it is beyond this reality right um and that's incredible one that happens i think the closest stuff to that i mean i i always think the seth material is quite good as a sort of standard um i yeah i who was i really blown away by when i was on the chat with so far on the channeling docuseries there were a few um but i'm not am i gonna name names uh nothing comes to me right now as it has but there were i think i think i like lee carroll i i like um um uh channels crying i like there's another one there's another one as well another lee as well okay so that's the one who does the uh the um crayon videos okay there's another lee as well and i cannot remember it which is so bad harris energy lee harris that's it thank you and there is um there was a a lady as well that lived uh well she was some part of california um i would have to go back to my notes to find out what these people's names were i'm so sorry but yeah there were a few that really blew my mind oh there was a lady called grace as well that channel this this collective group man that was that interview that really i i feel as well when you're speaking to these people if you're in the right mind of wanting to go beyond what you think you you want or you can understand to really push yourself you know to levels like higher than you would you would do normally of of thinking that that they keep up this conversation with you that that's way beyond what you thought the answers would be like this you know i don't know just some of it blew my mind the idea of these i know we've all heard this but the parallel realities and you know you know um the idea that the the soul is you know constantly shifting to different realities based upon you know its level of i'll use these level of manifestation or level up where it thinks it is and as you you know move towards ideas of what you think you want in this lifetime you're constantly your consciousness is conscious you know constantly shifting and maybe the changes in the realities that you you're going going to are just so slight you wouldn't know the differences right but it's but it's leading up to eventually a reality that that's kind of what you want but maybe better than what you could have uh described for yourself or it's what you need to experience now i always say like if none of this stuff's true what's being said here right now um the one thing i take away from the work that i do or what that i've i've put out there is that if it helps you to become a better version of yourself by becoming more you know loving to yourself loving to others just you know just just a better individual than if it wasn't true and it got you to that place great right because maybe nothing else was going to right yeah um if it takes away your power that's when it's no good you know when i when i've come across channels where that you know it's a sort of power grab you know that you need me you know you can't do it yourself kind of thing that's where i started to sort of move forward yeah yeah yeah i'm the only one we're the only ones who are there's only five of us in the world kind of thing yeah yeah you just i think you've just got to go with you know is this information useful is it making me bringing out the best version of myself is it empowering me is it sticking away from conspiracy theory stuff is it you know all that kind of stuff it just you know is it it's not you know if it's too far out there and it's not based in some sort form of reality well you know maybe that's not so useful because we are in this reality and we you know we're here to try to make the best of it aren't we and um yeah and if it can help you to understand to make you that kind of person and to help you understand why things are the way they are maybe you know that you know we don't everything's there's a reason for everything i guess i mean there's so much you can say isn't there yeah about this subject um so you know we're explorers we're truth seekers right we're we're students of this still you know even to this day you know and uh and to remain in it after all the charlatans and all the attacks and all that you just you remain true because you're a seeker right and many people do um and so with with channeling and again you own channeling.com a service where people can uh can call in and speak to channelers that you have on staff and and things like that what are some of the testimonials that you'll get from from whether it's from the reader or hearing recordings of people who are getting sessions with some of your readers are like is it really helping people do people like walk away in tears and do they have epiphanies and get answers like is it really helping people are you able to hear those testimonies even though you're not the one actually facilitating yeah well i mean right now the website's almost done we're just in a sort of test phase for it you know it should have been launched a long time i mean it's live it's working but i i don't have the readers on there that i really want to have um everything's just you know um people are just helping out being on there right now uh just to just as it's um being uh finished off and built i mean there were so many things that got in the way of getting it up and running but everything you said there i i'd like to be able to you know uh the thing that people are going to get from from from the service when it's finally launched when it officially launches uh which is who i'm hoping it to be very soon man wow i thought it was something that's been it's been funny so hasn't it yeah it's up and running and it's working but they have you know from a new website being built in a pandemic which uh it has only taken just recently to have it um you know have it there working uh this has been so many technical problems in the background that's why you don't see me advertise it anywhere on my show because it's just not um you know it's just not been been worth uh you know publicly you know pushing it out there so uh these things take time and um it was a big investment to be honest with you so far um and it should have yeah look everything everything happens for a reason and i'm just going to say to myself there's a reason why i've not launched it properly yet so um but being yeah that's what liked it's just in beta i guess then right it's totally totally bailey it's been better for ages yeah i know it's like been several years since i figured yeah there's this yeah it's it's yeah yeah you know launching these things is no easy feat man that's why when people do it they've you know it's it's done with a lot of money behind it but um oh you know on top of that man i went through divorce i went you know i you know i've gone through immigration recently that that's all that's killed at least uh uh this year after you know what i mean i only went back back to work recently and um you know there's other things going on in the background right now as well so so it's just been a balancing act but yeah i my main aim for it is obviously to have readers on there that can offer you know quality quality readings and and one thing i don't want on there as well is is you know too many repeat customers we are going to try to have ethics on this where you know you just can't come back straight away to get another reading you've got a you know there's going to be so certain times when you know you you know you've got it you've got to give it a break and stuff um uh yeah well with the feedback though from the channels that people have had readings with um mostly from what i've heard you know when people give me feedback it's it's they've they've had you know great sessions i mean there's been the odd ones that haven't um but um yeah you know i mean yeah oh there's something there's so much i could say about a couple of things on my background for sure you ain't got to go into this what i'm going to do if i say i'm going to get myself in so much bro yeah yeah um i want to get myself in trouble i want to say it but i will one day well you see here's the thing right um uh i met my ex my ex-wife through one of the channels and uh he had completely misused his power and and that's how we met you know one thing led to another many months later and you know we're getting married and stuff and it just turned into a you know into what it was and i i ended up coming over here to the states and you know and and it it turned into a sort of you know domestic body violence relationship in the end and um i guess you know i don't blame anyone and uh i take responsibility for my part as well um and i only wish i wish her the best but i tell you what man uh doing this journey you know i think you're forced to uh confront your demons sometimes when you do your work i don't know how you've ever had any crazy experiences but yeah yeah no i i totally have and we're still learning you know what i'm saying it's like you're not prepared for this there's no tutorial you gotta test the waters nobody's taking you under their wing and say okay this is coming next and try this or don't do that because no no no and i still haven't done nothing about that channel yet and i and i'm i want to but you know i remember you know getting some advice and you know they were like just leave it you know it's just not worth it you know it's not it's not for you to correct anything there that's not your past but you know um and i i i i there was a part of me that you know from that relationship that really wanted to have his day but um you know you just learn in the end that that energy is just not worth it yeah and uh you try i mean everything i've been through i mean i've been through hell recently and i think everything you you learn sometimes and all the things that i've experienced with the work that i've done i wasn't able to use it sometimes in what i went through but saying that i have to say that amazing things happen sometimes and you're like oh my god where did that come from how did that happen how can that be just life that isn't that is incredible you know the synchronicities and stuff and you're like there has to be more man there has to be more i think with all the work that i've done truth i think you know what i keep saying this is someone on my shows i don't know if i'm any wiser sometimes because you know what this it really is this reality ah jesus man it's like when we cross over maybe even then we won't be too understanding of it do you know what i mean maybe it's so it's so amazing it's so incredible it's so huge that really you know what what's important right now is is to get on with this but to know and to explore is helpful because i think you know it does try to make sense of things but when we have to use words like you know i said before like soul or god or this or that you know i you know they're just ours what if it's so different to what we think to what we know it to be you know so much more yeah yeah i mean we're we're all just doing our best to try to explain what's going on i mean that's the beauty of what you know what i call syncretism is bringing everything together and you see these these threads within religion and within um different sacred practices and their name different things but but they're the same you know when it comes to channeling you know i have a i'm a i'm a i call myself a christian mystic you know and the channeling is like even from that of like channeling the holy spirit or catching the holy ghost and this you know sacred uh ancient sound is coming from you or speaking in tongues or light language and you know just finding i i find beauty in those in their similarities and stuff but but again like you know again what what what what is it when we die what is what is on the other side my my biggest thing of what i've learned is like you know all of us are since from adam to whoever from genesis of the revelation from the beginning to end mankind is trying to come to terms with the elephant in the room he said hey it's the grim reaper it's like hey you're limited and some people come to terms with that by not thinking about it and acting like they get to live forever as this person with their family and everything stays the same yeah um religions you know and theories and and and uh maybe even channeling or you know saying mediumship of like listen i've talked to your mother she's okay she's standing right here oh and that brings that person solace or whatever um or if it's religion that you get you're granted into heaven and there's no more fear or worry of death and just that plight and i know as much studying i've done and talking to as much people like i still don't know you think like i have some ideas but to say like okay this is exactly what happens it's like the more questions you have we should be experts by this point but we end up having i think the expert is having more questions you know i think so i mean if there's such things as past life do exist i'm sure that we've had so many and i mean what if what if this life repeats itself how do we know it doesn't i mean what if we do it we've done this so many times like the matrix and but we're doing it in a different way i don't know i mean i'm not i mean that that may not even be look i'm just chucking it out there right yeah i'm just saying what if what if i mean what it does it matter um no but i'm just you know i guess you know it's just there's something more and even with a you know the mediums you know you sometimes you get those readings not sometimes quite often you know you get a reading and they'll say something and you'll be like oh that's a load of you know that's just not going to happen and then it happens and you're like yeah but i don't know if i went out my way to go down down that direction and i do think sometimes that when they tell you certain things are going to happen i think you have the free will to say to yourself at some level i'm going to go down a different path i don't need to go down that path i'm not going to do that well the option is there but um and then some just don't get it right because they don't tune in yeah yeah there's a you know infinite possibilities and when you have a person that presents them for you and tries to help you get on that what i would call a timeline and it's nothing woo-woo about it but it's just like hey what do you want to do with your life you want to marry somebody you want to do this okay well there's practical steps that you probably need to take to do that you need to get out more you need to take care of your health you know there's different that you need to you know you got to do something and uh but yeah but i think that's because you know i i was i'm into it all uh i did i answered the i did the phone lines for a friend of mine psychic um she did psychic readings and they would call in and um i'll take call i'll take the callers and they would ask me for readings and stuff and um what do you feel for me in the future and i mean i could start talking but it's like what do you want what do you want let's get clear on what you want well i i don't know what do you see well i don't start talking what do you want well i would like to do this and okay so this is what we'll do and whether i have a prayer or an activation or send you energy into that thing let's get clear and be able to bring that into your timeline versus like hey tell me about my future okay yeah well you got three kids you know and that kind of thing when it's like let's just get clear and i can i feel like i can move the energy and work with you and help you bring that into your life through manifestation even by practical means you know yeah yeah that's great man i love it absolutely absolutely i agree with everything you're saying there yeah and i don't i mean i don't many know many readers that that would um well not personally that that would that would predict you know like like what you know exactly how it's going to be in the future but they're more it's more about the now for a lot you know um and they just some of them pick up on the energy of the moment now which um yeah obviously can change but uh oh there's just so much to say about the subject isn't there they say you know as you're talking i'm thinking uh yeah what about this and then yeah it's um that's why you gotta do this you gotta write you gotta write notes down jot it down i know because you get four questions at one time and i gotta at least write a word down so i can go back to it yeah yeah and it's just i mean i i think one thing i want to say as well i wanted to say actually was that you know we have the the ability all of us have the ability ourselves and i think yes i know we we we don't believe in that we do or we want someone else to tell us but really all those answers are within man and if you just trusted that inner voice when it comes to you when you you know just to listen to it it's it's there for all of us but it's whether you want to trust it or not yeah but i think a reading or being around a holy man or whatever or somebody who considers himself i think it helps activate at least that it's possible especially if they they you know show you that it is and they're like you know keep you know come to me next week again or whatever the case is you know yeah right yeah no absolutely yeah i think it helps someone once said it to me you know if you can help have someone help you clean your house up for you it's always nice to have that you know or to help you clean it as well uh and i think sometimes that's kind of what it is you know what i mean just um depending what issues that you've got at the at the pres you know at the point where you're seeing someone most times when we're seeing someone you know we're seeing them because we do have an issue we're not seeing them because you know just just just for the the sort of catch up so yeah yeah well um we're coming up on a quick break kevin and uh we're gonna jump to this break it's about three minute break it's a pretty cool um commercial that i put together and uh guys check it out you'll like it we'll be back after this with kevin moore be right back elementals are different elementals are really strange i've seen elementals i've had one-on-one experience with elementals i don't know exactly what they are how i know what the calls are but i have i've had incidents where i have been in the company of elementals they're spirit creatures like fairies and on the ira show very big on talking about the the different fairies and the different magical little creatures leprechauns i have seen gnomes and leprechauns and fairies these are what we call the elementals they they are legitimately life forms but they don't live in the world you do they live in a different kind of world an elemental world but we call them the elementals it's uh it's quite a subject life outside of being a human what is life like in the spirit world and that's what you're talking about in your book i explore these concepts and more in my new book spirit realm angels demons spirits and the sovereignty of god forward by jordan maxwell available now at truthseeker.com hi folks i'm santos bonacci and i am now tuned in to the awakening music is one of the most powerful expressions of truth that we have it is a very powerful consciousness expander and a great medium for transmitting truth check out the work of truthseeker at truthseeker.com for some great and powerful consciousness expanding music and i know they hate it but mother nature described it look within while meditating in silence aloha to you that's what's good thank you truth seeker says what's up what's up true seeker myself we had a deep ass conversation it was a long ass time to buy a smoky one the truth seeker podcast it's the best podcast i mean it really is i've heard of he and his is the best he debunks the prophecy saying i was your president i'm not i'm really not but keep listening and you will learn something cool i'm sure of it like really sure okay then we bartended out to the mall [Applause] you're listening to the truth seek a podcast now back to the show this is it don't get scared now all right ladies and gentlemen we're back with my guest kevin moore of the moore show um ladies and gentlemen post your questions in the uh in the comment section if you have for kevin and i'll ask those here in a minute got a couple different places i want to go with you kevin i guess i'll piggyback off of something we we started a while ago first um you know we talk about death the afterlife what happens one of the things that that keeps me intrigued with this conversation and with with the paranormal really ghost even demons angels anything that pops into this realm magic if you will um those things to me seem to prove the existence of something that's taken place in another realm that exists simultaneously with this one yeah with the afterlife yeah what's your thoughts on that i i think yeah well i put ufology in there as well do you know what i mean absolutely you know i mean is that connected or you know is that from another reality some of it yeah i think this when you look at the near-death experience um recollections from people that have had them some of them are just so touching on that you just you just know there's something there's something there right and um some of them have had incredible um um you know when they come back with information about their family members that they didn't know they had or whatever it might be you know um yeah it's uh truly incredible and especially with the ones in kids as well that's um very fascinating yeah and yeah the the the ufo stuff i mean it was only like last week when my father was saying to me you know we just we were talking over the phone uh because obviously they're back in the uk and um yeah we we all had a ufo experience uh as a family um back in 92. and the the strange thing is none of us can really talk about it and and and really recollect the same sort of um you know experience except some of some of it's there but some of it's not you know what i mean and whatever we saw that whatev i remember what i saw that day out of out of any other experience i've had and that was um understandable i i i it was it was something from the unknown i honestly it was no reference to this thing in the sky sat there hovering and i just don't know it maybe that you know had some interest you know in doing the type of subjects that i'm doing now maybe but um yeah it's uh and there's so many people that have had their own sort of experiences out there you know with that subject and and death as well i mean i think you know death is a subject that it's it's i mean some of us can't talk about but i think there's personally i've always been fascinated by i don't know about yourself the idea of where we where we go to and um i mean i've i've had you know i've seen things as a kid that apparitions of uh you know my uncle that it felt real but you know i can't say whether it wasn't i don't know if you've had any experiences where you you knew you something was there but to try to you know put it into words is really difficult yeah yeah you know you try to rationalize things and uh and encounters and experiences and one of the things that like when other people experience it too like the ufo thing you had your family it would be different if it was just you like i've oh yeah i've seen so much i think i've made contact you know ce5 initiative by myself early on years ago i had so many like it was insane insanity but um i i had a being i stole long story short stole something from a warlock who was an older gentleman and and uh somebody brought it to him it was hidden and they brought it to him and gave it to him and they uh he got with some other older witches got up and they walked to the back of the house and uh i was over there with my cousin it was like we gotta go there's a big party a bunch of people there was like hey we stole from these people and they know it we're in trouble i didn't know they was going to do a witchcraft spell on me i thought they were going to beat us up you know and so we ended up leaving and um going to find somewhere else to stay we were supposed to stay there but i stole from the people and they found out so we're we're gonna go stay with my girlfriend in her tree house and we're hiding in the around the bushes getting ready to run to her tree house but we thought her dad was in the yard the sun's going down we go around to this open field we're getting ready to run and we waited for about 30 45 minutes or something to try to get a clear shot and out of nowhere this entity appeared the best i can describe it as it looked like a eight foot tall camel out of thin air blacker than the darkness of night shadow ran past us and screamed knocked us both down disappeared into thin air and you're talking about somebody who's looking for truth somebody who's into i'm curious for the dark arts i want it to be real and then that happened and a lot of other stuff negative stuff like my health started to go downhill after that i began to be tormented and plagued and stuff by spirits and you think that that would scare you away having an encounter like hey this is nothing to play with but for me it was like that was freaking awesome you know it's like i want to learn how to do it yeah i've had those experiences man for sure wow oh yeah that would have freaked me out man oh i'll be too jumping man yeah that stuff gets me jumpy that stuff just but yeah well what an experience that was good and yeah i i do believe there's power in the in the in the sort of black magic stuff um the curses and stuff i don't know if you give it power it gives it power i mean i don't know but i've heard too many stories of people that have had that type of stuff placed on them by exes and stuff like that not always that the case but that's an extreme case but um or whatever the case was and yeah you know they've had to you know have it removed um and some didn't know they were carrying it with them and stuff so yeah it's uh yeah i i think there's a lot of personal experiences right that you can share publicly but for some people who've never had the experience it'll make no sense it won't resonate and um it's you know maybe they'll listen but unless you've had some experience yourself it's it's difficult to understand that there's you know these things the weird thing is somebody like like me i can keep going i do i do this on the podcast i do it on interviews i can i can so many and and i've interviewed other people who can do too and they're pretty convincing like they're sharing it from a place of of like divine knowing and yeah this really happened um and then you have you know somebody like me 20 30 40 experiences another person same thing 20 and then other people no experiences at all it's so weird how one person can be open to that realm and it just eventually be normal and they see stuff and fairies and ghosts and ufos come on command and whatever like but other people it's like yeah i just i've never seen anything like that you know i think you've got to want to be open i think you've what you've got to want to you know uh have some belief in it to to to maybe see it i guess um i think uh i think we all have the ability to be open but i mean it's whether maybe some of us aren't really you know meant to do that in this lifetime maybe we're supposed to you know have the experience that we're having for yourself and other people around you maybe yeah yeah it was definitely a want for me um i always trace everything back for you know childhood genesis stuff and which was i just wanted to ask you as well like you know you talk about you said maybe i cuz that stuck out maybe that ufo experience had something to do with what you're doing today i i trace i i literally can trace everything back to a sleep terror experience at at four years old that shifted the conversations at you know thirteen-year-old derrick uh troop seeker at sleepovers hey have y'all ever seen this in the middle of the night you know and and it what what what movies i picked when it was time to go rent movies you know and it was always about that going back to something that happened at four years old you know so for you getting into this you said that that the ufo could have something but is there anything well you know i was in l.a in my late 20s and i i thought you know what i'll go get a regression i've been reading this this guy that just passed live progressions dr bruce goldberg and i went to go get a regression session with him and you know at the end of that session i'm i'm waking up and i'm like oh my god i just made that all up he's like yeah they all say that you know in that session i i was abducted and you know i i i in that time with my family and um i i don't know i honestly don't know whether my mind wanted to make that abduction process up or whether it did happen maybe not quite as i remembered it but something happened and um i just don't know what all that was about but and i guess i'm not i'm not going to i mean i could you know get someone to talk about like we all could but i don't know man i just don't know what you know um but i yes i i do believe that we are not alone absolutely not in such a a an unfathomable um size of uh or infinite you know you know universe it's just uh impossible that it's just us so um well that's the way i feel about it yeah for sure and again like whether it's off-world stuff or other dimensions that are popping in and out i mean you know absolutely you know like i know the uh you know the flat earthers which it's a there's a lot a lot of them out there they don't believe that space is real and anything with ufos or demons or anything like that are interdimensional beings that that travel from different realms to come here you know even even ufos and aliens when it comes to that well we're yeah i mean we're we're all at uh different like i want to say evolutions maybe or or we're all at you know different soul levels maybe that's another word for it like what what what we're able to you know think or comprehend or what we're willing to think and comprehend um or how open you know i mean i guess for some people it's scary to be open as well for some things and i guess you know they just get stuck in their own um uh lies some people do as well you know what they think is you know reality maybe and you know it's not yeah yeah because you know some of the stuff can be scary for sure and there's a comfort in in whatever narrative you have and that's one of the weirdest things kevin like you know when i when i talk about people making it up or like am i interviewing crazy people you know those thoughts cross my head i hate to say that out loud but if you know it just does i'm i'm going to be honest but um it's like people are living in different worlds like two people shoulders apart are two different realities trump is still the president right now you know there's so many so much stuff you know aliens are here to to help us or aliens are here to kill us you know there's those are two different you know world views that shape everything you know and then then what's it really come down to it really comes down to well am i living the life that i want to really live am i living in purpose am i happy with my life you know i mean yeah all that's lovely in that and stuff to be you know you know fixed fixated on but i mean what about our own personal journey right where we're at you know some of us don't even think we're entitled to do what we we we should be doing or what we think we want to do and uh i think you know i'm going through that that journey right now you know what is it i really want to do and you know what where do i what do i want to give my time to i i don't want to get you know another 20 years ahead and and only wishing that i you know at 43 you know that i'd not you know made the changes back then to whatever i'm i'm i'm gonna do and um yeah i understand anyone that's going through that that it's a hard process man because you know you you're scared of what other people might think depending what you want to get into right you um yeah that's just um i don't know it's just uh it's difficult it's a difficult place when you're um you know uh when you're going through a big shift so um yeah but uh you know i guess we're supposed to experience what we're experiencing just so that you know it gets us to where we're going to get um so uh yeah i mean that that may be like something complete like i said before in this interview like you know i i think you know we can there's so much we can do about mainstream stuff you know with what we what we've um gathered in you know in in people that we've kind of brushed with and stuff you know with what with our own understanding of what life's about man just imagine injecting some of that stuff into sort of you know the mainstream culture out there i don't know yeah um well it's definitely more mainstream now what you mentioned doing this you know a long time ago i remember i remember being being one of the only ones doing this and and the only one who had cool thumbnails and my all of my podcasts like on youtube like i mean i i don't i don't get much love from the algorithms anymore i get like i'm sometimes i'm lucky if i get 300 views on an amazing episode you know have the mom from et on to talk about aliens have huge name people on but the algorithms are like yeah you know damn your your interview which the early days of youtube 50 60 000 views that was normal for me and then because i was one of the only ones doing it now youtube there's there's 12 year old kids with amazing cameras and podcasts and obs and and it's 70 12 year old kids that are doing the same niche and all of this so it's a lot more crowded and it's different so something that was niche it's not nits anymore this is it it is seeping into mainstream ancient aliens making a lot of this stuff popular in in a lot of the movies and stuff so some stuff where we kind of felt like pioneers on a lot of this i know i totally do i know if you go back far enough you have to as well oh it's just how i felt man everything you're saying is what i've been saying to myself these past few days and way beyond like like how crowded it is right now how difficult it is how you know and i think this is what's been part of my push maybe of like oh my god this is really what i want to do you know um it's been a little bit of a push but i think when you're in purpose i think you do whatever you want to you know you do what you have to do because you love it man you know regardless whether it's making a little bit of money or not you still love doing it and i think i'm on burnout bro i think i am man so um yeah yeah i'm recognizing the signs yeah whatever maybe when i go bro you have to have some space there i'll give you my audience whatever it is man it's a if you need a second wind or you if your heart is somewhere else man i think it's somewhere else if it is i think that's what i'm thinking i think you're in the conversation though to like to follow the signs you know what i'm saying like if you need if you if your heart is saying do this you're around people who champion that who are products of that i'm a product of that of yeah damn being miserable whatever it is that you want to do you get i don't know about these channelers in past lives and seven lives i know i need to be faithful with this life that i have today and i have dreams that i don't that's the thing about death that's creeping i don't want to go to the grave with these dreams and visions and aspirations and never seeing the world and never doing this and never doing that so that's where i'm coming from gotta do it now and i think i think you know uh my dad was diagnosed with uh prostate cancer just uh like i think it was maybe three months ago and i think you know being over here going through immigration not being able to go back because you can't right because you're stuck in the system now you know i i you you've got to wait like however long it's going to be to hear back and everything's so slow now right and it's like oh [Â __Â ] well there we go okay that's how it's that's how it's gonna be is it and um i don't know it's not a slap in the face from life it's just like okay so i've gone through a divorce i'm going through immigration my father's got uh obviously the prostate cancer which i'm i mean i'm i'm hoping that you know everything's gonna you know he's gonna go through the the radiation therapy and everything and you know and he's gonna be able to recover and i'm gonna get to see him right and almost being homeless really i'll be honest with you right and it's like all these things and obviously very isolated i mean totally isolated where i am you know i left my you know my you know that relationship finished on the fifth of uh november last year and i went to a place where you know there aren't that many people and i think um i think we're taking where we need to go sometimes and after this isolating um painful um i could use so many words but i don't want to swear right but but this experience that i've gone through right now and i've still got much more to go right much more to go yeah yeah i say much more at least another six i can't even go get a part-time job right now right because um i'm not allowed to work because obviously once you submit your application you you know you've got to wait to hear back you know you know are they gonna accept the case are they going to you know give you the the the temporary work permit and stuff but that's all in the future right so it's like well it's an interesting experience and it you know it when you go through these dark times uh though if you want to call it a dark night of the soul or major depression when you're fighting that's uh a lot as well uh doing this show right or doing the things i've done or have been doing um that word of of living in purpose just just just screams out and how the short life is and how you know uh it you know it's about this life it's about this moment that's what it's really that this is what's really important right now and if that's out of alignment anywhere then life is going to put you to a situation where you think you've put yourself in and you have but um there are other things going on sometimes that's almost like destiny like you have to go through it yeah that's that's true man and like you know a lot of stuff i i look at you know and you can you can throw anything in there we can throw video games we can throw food in there but a lot of this off-world stuff and and fantasy and stuff like that it's like a lot of it is escapism because we we're creating worlds within worlds because we we don't like the life that that we've created here you know there's a lot of people get lost in that whether it's astral travel or traveling off planet to go meet with the zeta reticuli beings in the dream state now they can't wait to go to sleep because their life sucks but the zeta reticuli they're a celebrity in there or in this other world or or on the internet when i click live hey welcome to the podcast like i'm somebody you know i'm nobody in my day-to-day so there's a lot of escapism when it comes to philosophy religion and theories and stuff like that that help people to escape you mentioned you know i cringe when you mention doing the news for me you may be good for you but i i celebrate what we do is like hey let's take a break from that crap you know i don't want to hear about you know the what's going on anymore i need i need an alternative that's a peaceful beautiful one well that was and that's escapism that's the thing that news was more from the perspective of like you know looking at the news but then looking at the karmic reasons why it's going on look at the spiritual reasons why that's the way it is i don't know if that's going to happen right right you know some days i'm like oh yeah i'd love to do that and then other days like right now i'm like is that really purpose i don't know we'll see yeah we'll see how it feels maybe in a few days yeah i'm with you with creatives though there's so many paths you know so many things you want to do but you can't do them all well i don't know i you know i look at some of these bigger name youtubers right and um you know they've they've got all sorts of bloody past and they've been you know they're up to all sorts yet they're living in their purpose and they don't give two shits about what people think of them um they're doing their thing and and are they thinking about you know is this helpful to people is this content of service you know um i guess it's very difficult maybe i shouldn't even bring that in there but i'm not trying to complicate things that's their journey of course it is right and this is our journey but i'm just saying when when you see people living in purpose it's um yeah i think um it's inspiring i think um you know to to to uh to see what's possible um i don't know where i'm going with that but well i'll say this you've you know obviously if you hang it up and you and your passion's dead right you don't want to be in nothing if your heart's not there anymore and so whether someone says that nature uses shocks to keep your brain away brain brain awake like you there's shocks that happen in reminders or like remind you why you got started in this stuff or whatever but i i i do know that you know you are what you have created is is giving people uh another another narrative that's better than one that's given people hope as well it's giving people i'm grateful for that it's helping so many people and i think there's a ripple effect that does come back to serve you from that man for creating that platform even if it doesn't return monetarily or nobody's there to thank you uh you people want to come on and get their little promo and leave and you never hear from them again and i i do think that the universe does work in such a way to uh when it's time for you to to do that that other thing i do think the energy and the attention will be there for you man yes i do whatever that's going to be um yeah i've got some ideas but uh i'm not on yeah and maybe it will be the continuation of what i'm doing and i'm just being honest about my journey do you know what i mean and if that's helpful to anyone i mean i've had those talks and continue to have them myself you know sure i know i know i know i know where you are and uh but it's cool it's like you know part of about being a a truth seeker or being somebody who who does what we do is like there's no escape man there's no there's no escape from from the pain of life i'll tell you that not hiding anything yeah you're not hiding anything uh we had we had several people that we knew died from covet you know a couple couple weeks ago and then me and my my wife got it we were coaching each other on how to breathe didn't know if we were going to take our last breath last breaths together it was scary as hell dude and and then and then all of our fans or fans and an audience they're like covets not real what do you mean you don't have it it's not real brother just you just got the flu and i'm like [Â __Â ] i can't i can't breathe man like yes i'm asking on the internet like how do you who has got what is what are remedies what do i do take ivermectin no don't take eye from actin to go to the doctor don't go to the doctor like dude and while we were going through that and we knew people dying i'm going to funerals all of this and people saying it's fake in the conspiracy all my all my conspiracy theory friends out there and i'm still doing interviews i'm still interviewing people people are having me on their show i'm crying man wow i'm crying and i'm like you know oh my god and just it's truth it's real you get to see it all i'm not hiding no that's success yeah i'm you too you know it's up to you man yeah yeah yeah well yeah you just you just can't hide it i think sometimes it just comes to the top i think you know um yeah it's there in it you know what i mean you know um it's life that's part of it yeah yeah yeah i mean i mean i'll be honest i mean there's days where i thought you know what i just i [Â __Â ] don't care if i don't wake up i just don't care anymore i just don't care you know if that's gonna be it that's gonna be it i'm [Â __Â ] done do you know what i mean then i think to myself oh come on you know look how worse other people have it do you know what i mean uh i mean others have so much worse i know you know people say well your pain is your pain right but you know there is people with a lot a lot worse um you just think of the people at the concentration camps do you know what i mean imagine how happy they were to get the hell out and what they survived and stuff and i try to remind myself of that but um yeah i think uh yeah so uh yeah that's the therapy session over so thank you very much yeah i mean hiding in our work you know people's like true singing you need a vacation like this my work is my vacation man you know what i'm saying like it is my escape yeah vacation sounds nice bro where would you go i'm getting ready to go to orlando next week oh that sounds cool yeah orlando would do man yeah i got i got a friend of mine they got a they gotta put on a little retreat or whatever so very nice very nice we got some retreats going on man come hang out with us dude november yeah yeah yeah i'll i'll hook uh i'll connect with you afterwards about that definitely fun man for sure get with some real people man for sure and yeah that'd be nice yeah what is that man she said dude i'd love to have you man yeah sure yeah that'd be cool that'd be cool documented or just get away by yourself uh yeah whatever yeah everything's recorded i think uh okay yeah definitely yeah we got time for a couple more questions absolutely go for it man okay um let's see you you spoke to dolores cannon while she was alive right yeah yeah i i had some food with her man well i remember she came to the uk and i mean i met her a number of times but one time when she came to the uk she came to the radio station i was at and you know we did the interview it was all planned and everything and then we went for a meal and i remember you know was in wales having this meal at this you know down by the almost like it's like a seafront kind of place right and uh yeah she was just like you know all those people out there in the in the background don't want to blow your mind i was like yeah you know i'd love to she's like you know i call them some of the background people and some of them are not what you think they are that they're actually you know you would never walk up to some of those people that are out in the distance there you're never going to interact with them you'll never know what i'm saying if it you know if what i'm saying has got any bearing to it but you'll never go see that person that's walking in the background there where you're just like absolutely not unless i choose to run over there now but i don't think i am going to and she's like yeah this is like you know we're almost like living in a matrix kind of thing where you know this reality is nothing what we think it is and this was you know brought from people that she regressed and what was incredible about her is that she never channeled she never regressed anyone but people that she would um regress would would carry on the conversation where another person had left off from another country sometimes oh yeah definitely different people that didn't know each other it's just insane right what all that was well obviously something more and uh she left some breadcrumbs didn't she i guess for other people to follow wow that sounds that sounds like an amazing conversation and and it makes sense to the uh the lovely she was other other people finishing other people's conversations or what you started or in prayer or by yourself you know and then other somebody comes and says the same that's synchronicity it's like listen i heard this i heard this weird term i've never heard before and then i seen a billboard with that term the same thing yeah yeah you know those little things that it only means something to you you know the matrix glitching brother that's what it is man yeah yeah so that that's your thoughts on on on her now what about somebody that i'm and again every time i say this name people tune out and they send me hate mail what are your thoughts on madame blavatsky you know i've never i i don't know enough about her okay i'll be honest i mean i i i obviously understand what background she comes from but i never studied her i had no wish to um many people that i surrounded myself with i worked with that they had been been into her quite a bit actually um yeah you know her story though right as far as like in the end and everything what ended up happening and stuff i can't i i've been told but can i remember in this moment no okay i've probably been told well essentially you know she she was you know a someone who brought a lot of eastern mysticism to to the u.s and she brought forms of seance mediumship and channeling and and um ended up getting with some some people that was like hey we can make a lot of money doing this and doing sessions and group seances but then yeah but i think a lot of it started out in in like a love for philosophy and a love for the arts and and maybe a disdain for christianity but um in the end she ended up getting caught like like uh faking um some of their stuff they had letters that would fall out of trap doors from loved ones and she supposedly got caught in the end as being like a fraud that she just got in over her head or whatever but right as far as her writings and stuff like that i'm i'm really just getting into them last couple months i've always known who she who she was but i never really picked up a book for myself too yeah they're the famous people back in the day and they're like that sort of set this um this this genre up a little bit aren't they in some respects like yeah the kind of thought leaders of it yeah yeah well that that's why i guess i'll go with it for sure because i think we uh i don't think we would be really doing what we're doing without without her you know what i'm saying no definitely not um definitely not so you don't know much about her to give her sorry about that no you're good i wanted to say this too i left a comment on your channel uh i seen the recent interview with uh la marzulli and i thought you handled that interview like a champ l.a lynn marzulli yeah yes you handled that interesting really really good yeah yeah i i like l.a what can i say do you know you know i mean he's he he's passionate about what he does he believes in what he's doing and you know he's never going to stop yeah he can't man he's on watches whatever now do you know what i mean he's he's yeah yeah he's yeah he's in it he's in it for life and um i don't think he'd ever question it too much and i really hope that whatever you know what the journey that he's on that he's he's enjoying it i hope yeah i'm sure he totally is you know all those guys are you know um he's living his best life man i i come from that realm you know in in ufology i got introduced as far as a researcher from the christian perspective which everyone across the board takes his stance these are demons brother you know and these demons made it with mankind and they're called the nephilim and they're traveling spaceships and you know and there's other sides to that story that those guys you know kind of don't really bring to the table but uh you know that it's it's a doom and gloom if it if it's not their perspective you know because at the same time they do have a light at the end of the tunnel which is jesus but anything else your light or maybe these enlightened beings that are here to help us and trying to you know channel us to say hey love one another hey be good almost the same message as jesus if you will you know that's what i should have said at the beginning of this interview actually that a lot of the channel messages do say the same things about you know that we're all one that you know uh to to love ourselves and others is so important that's what we're here to do to love ourselves and to love others and love is one of the key fundamentals what we come here to to learn and uh you know maybe sometimes you know we're learning everything but love because that's what we're meant to maybe experience in some respects but um yeah it's something i'm always learning i don't know about you but you know being kind and everything else i i i yeah i'm i'm trying man yeah yeah it sucks that sometimes we gotta have a uh a guru or or an alien to tell us to do it right hey whatever it takes you know right right if it's a goo if it's a guru if it's jesus telling you that and you read it in the scriptures oh yeah i got to be a good person if it's an alien or if it's a medium who channeled your grandmother hey stop being mean you know it's like okay get the message it's not about the method it's really about the message and i think you know the life experience is there there the teachers as well that same message and you know it's whether we're going to listen or not mm-hmm yeah yeah um thoughts and relationships from this point on with um the the project people project avalon project camelot carrie cassidy i know you i know you were going at her for a while it just feels like yeah it's like can i let bygones be bygones where where are you at with all that stuff absolutely not man no no no no no no that documentary that that docuseries is is is about to go back into production right i should have started it already i've just had so much going on personally with with everything and um it's just caused a massive heap of of of work that i've got to get through which i am right but i'm starting that i'm restarting that docuseries and and yeah we're going deep into project avalon uh simon parks and a number of other people associated with kerry but of course the murder as well i know most people are going to listen to this and think what the hell is this guy on about but it's a donkey serious based on uh true crime where uh kerry cassidy is the um is the supporter her biggest supporter for her work is a guy that's been in prison for 38 years a guy called mark riches go by captain mark richards he's not a captain he never has been that that's just fraud um and uh it's the story of looking into mark his crime partner who's been in another prison for as long and of course kerry cassidy and and uh the conspiracy uh uh uh sort of the movement in general uh that we're surrounded by so yeah just still going in still doing it for sure what did uh what was your relationship or or dealing with um bill ryan what would you see because he's kind of aren't they like distant from each other now they are they are it was anyone that had helped set um project uh camera up in in the past you know we you know we looked into and with bill um you know he's going to be on the docket series as well and um you know whatever we you know whatever we've discovered will be we'll be on there as well good luck with yeah so peace and love so is it is it to expose him as being a part of this stuff or is he a good guy i've been i i've got kicked off their boards they're pretty they could be nasty people man join the club bro i got kicked off their ages ago yeah yeah you know you know what's clever about it it's data collecting they'll get you to a certain boiling point you're using scientology tactics right and then they're like [Â __Â ] there we've got him there it's it's it's in the forever and this there's a screenshot of what this guy's like because i'm effing i'm blind on this board right you know because of just the the stupidity of the whole thing right and um yeah what do i think well i spoke to the art dealer in florida where he owes um over a hundred thousand plus two that he he sold a fake picasso and he never paid it she took it to court and she's trying to get her money back so you know is that in the dark you serious guess so yeah stuff that people don't look into it's something weird miss a lot of these celebrities got some weird shady stuff going on and i don't know like what if they don't i don't care what you do in your past just let's not you know you know you know just be honest about it if someone's like if there's something that's said about you just like you know it's either true it's not true is it you know what i mean and if it is true don't go covering it up with bloody lies where it's you know just digging yourself a bloody further hold you know what i mean so i mean there's things i've done in my past but i'm not proud of but they're there you know yeah um it muddies the water up you know and these people are so-called gatekeepers to a lot of this stuff you know and uh i think what really i mean look am i gonna put that stuff out on bill in regards to um i think my camera is my camera gone off there no i can still see you okay i think in regards to bill will i will i or not put that in that i don't know um um but but um i think all i want to put in there is you know well that they gave they gave their platform didn't they to some really unreasonable people there was one guy called bill brock brader who's just been on the us most wanted show with john walsh and uh he's a runaway pedophile right now that claimed to be an insider area 51 but um you know he wasn't so yeah anyway he wasn't well no he well he wasn't an insider but he was definitely a wanted man yeah so yeah so yeah it should be an interesting document something good oh my goodness yeah we need it we such a time like this for sure um man so where can people find out what you got going on so you're still doing stuff right now you ain't you ain't nothing in the towel yet man you're still doing no no the towel has not got trucked in yet man no no no i'm i'm i'm continuing with the channeling docu-series because i've got to do that so that's continuing um so that's on my youtube channel but there's also a website for that called they call us channels which is just being updated but it's not yet but it is um and um what else am i doing yeah just doing the kevin moore show keeping that going so that's happening for now and whatever it's going to form into whatever i'm going to do you know i'll i'll i'll make a mention of it at some point but you know maybe it's maybe it's just something you know a slight few tweaks i i don't i don't know yet i don't know dude take a just grab the steering wheel hard left and go left like i i would i would like 20 questions with these people like just make it fun switch it out that's what i want i i don't want the seriousness anymore i i'd love to be you know spoken about with them i want them in what i would like with would have to be them in person to be more of a laid-back conversation a couple drinks in them yeah they would have decided they would they would have to sign a lot of contracts though because they'd leave him like hey we gotta we gotta pull that interview we gotta we can't have we can't air it because i let out too much i i told my true feelings on corey good you know yeah i have been yeah that'd be great i have been um um thinking about going to vegas and actually having an uh uh an in-person podcast there because i thought well vegas is easy to get to is it a place i'd call home no but as as a place where people can come in and travel to yes and i'm i'm considering a lot of things yeah but this format i think the way it is yeah i i want to want to change it definitely so you uh you you started out doing in-person interviews for the most part for the longest right uh yeah i did it and then you you went to like a webcast uh when when did you do that was that during covet or before or no before yeah about about 2000 and um 2010 oh wow okay 2009 2010 yeah yeah no sorry no sorry sorry sorry 2 000 and and 12 13 maybe 13 sorry okay yeah 12 or 13 yeah okay yeah so you've been doing the webcast i i've i've i've mainly seen your in-person interviews with people yeah yeah yeah yeah i've been doing the work yeah in person yeah yeah the webcast stuff yeah and there's nothing wrong with that type of content i mean it works i mean it does but it's not as special it's different when you're in the same room with somebody i think there's something different about the energy man yeah absolutely yeah i've only done a couple calvin parker from the ufo case in pascagoula mississippi oh wow he's he's 30 minutes from me and so i reached out for an interview i was like you know what we're just gonna come to you man there's not too many people where i'm at and so yeah it was cool to actually be able to go there and set up the microphone i'll have to check that out man that's that'll be amazing i'll check that out i didn't know you did that right yeah it was fun for sure yeah but uh but yeah they can go to your youtube they can go to your website all this cool stuff yes yes absolutely they can yeah so just yeah just go to the i'm sure the links are below just just type in the kevin moore show you'll find it and all the they call us channel series are on there as well so yeah yeah awesome well kevin appreciate you coming on brother and uh like i said if you need anything dude just hit me up appreciate it you got my email you got my skype and um yeah i'd love to have you at the at the retreat if you would just want to get away man you know and that's all the record i some brothers and uh we do some spiritual stuff but it's not you can you can let your hair down kind of thing too so i'm open-minded bro don't worry about that whether it's religious it's nothing too crazy man no it's not crazy at all we're gonna do some cow ceremony and shamanic snuff and just walk through the woods together and decompress and just be around you know like-minded people and in the flesh like we were saying in the flesh yeah yeah absolutely i thank you for the invite ma'am yes sir thanks for coming on kevin enjoyed it brother and i'm i'm down to do it again whenever you are brother let me know all right shalom we'll talk soon kevin moore ladies and gentlemen uh i hope you guys enjoyed this conversation i hope that uh you found it intriguing i asked them a bunch of questions you know those are the people i want to talk to but again at the end of the day how how many answers do they have like i said at the very beginning like at this point i'm i have more questions you know you thought you had it all figured out in 2012 we all had it all figured out 2015 yeah couldn't tell me nothing i'm writing music about meeting the angels and how to pull them in portals and how to eat a mushroom and go find them in a stargate you know at this point it's like man we you know the the journey of the seeker is one of contemplation it is never one of i've arrived and it's over and i am the go-to guru and when people arrive at that at that place be wary one thing that jordan maxwell always says is a quote he used to always start his lectures off with and he would say never trust the person who claims to have the truth but always trust the person that's seeking it if a person is genuinely seeking the answers listen they're gonna have questions they're gonna they're gonna ask the hard questions they're gonna roll ideas they're gonna call bs truth doesn't need anyone to fight for it it's gonna stand up for itself and it's gonna it's gonna stand at the end of the day it's gonna stand the test of time no matter what it is and it doesn't need it doesn't change at the hand of scrutiny i'll tell you that it will it will last so whatever truth that you're standing for whatever truth that uh has got you this far i'm sure it's going to be the same truth that carries you even further and i think that those ideas are simple i think that it is the small things of love peace joy understanding the fruits of the spirit you know self-control what can i do to give me more self-control what can i do to give me more love make me more loving make me more compassion compassionate because you know this world has a way of having your body and your spirit your mind deteriorate where you just have nothing left so how you're not caring you have no empathy but how do you shape yourself how do you move and remain and hang on to that part of the true human that you are or the true light being that you are that has those things and not give heed to the animalistic nature that's within going through stress and trial and tribulation and heartache and lies and betrayal listen it takes a toll on your body it takes a toll on your mind um so that's for me is why spirituality is important that's why spiritual practice is important to me for grounding for breath work for contemplation for prayer for reading for camaraderie you know all of those things kind of those that's it helps me ground it helps me maintain helps me decompress what is it that helps you double down on those things double down on the things that you enjoy and do more of it get more of it in your life and then share it with others whether it's on a podcast whether it's with a friend that's what it's about um again with there's so many modalities there's so many stories there's so many books so many as kevin said there's so many um publicists and agents and those guys so many but there's only one truth find that truth spend time with that truth breathe in that truth and let that truth transform and radiate through your life find out what it is share it it's tangible it's real it needs not your opinion it needs not your approval it keeps no records of wrong it's kind it's patient find out what that is get into it let it permeate everything that you do man it's going to sustain you it's going to help you get through this and a lot of stuff just this life has had some wild stuff to throw at us but uh but you're more than a conqueror you are more than a conqueror greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world greater is that which is in you than that which is out there in them your enemies your trolls your haters your boss listen greater is that which is in you the love the christ the light all of that channel that speak from that whereas it reside right there in the heart space and it's connected to your stomach your soul your gut channel it what is channeling that's channeling i wanna do this but i'm gonna do that how do you do it while i channel that side of me there's two sides within me there's a there's a ravenous wolf and there's a galactic palladian a light being let me channel that one until unless it's time for the wolf to come out and you channel the persona you channel what you need at that moment you become that with your channel you become what you want to be a preacher channel the preacher he's in you he's in there somewhere you want to be a rapper channel the rapper you want to be a podcaster channel of the podcaster gonna be a construction worker channel hey i channeled a construction worker for eight hours faked it till i made it it wasn't in my purpose didn't like it but i channeled it and did it electrician's helper 8 to 10 hours a day truck driver channeled that for 10 years became that but what is it truly deep down that who you are channel that let that come out let that speak introduce yourself let your next move be your best move moving forward if god be for you who can be against you make a way where there's no way with that i want to say peace and shalom hope you guys enjoyed this conversation i i really appreciate kevin i i you know i i honor him and uh and everything he's brought to the table i encourage him to seek and find his truth he got a lot coming at him he's been through a lot and he's like he said he's going through a lot sin prayer sending good vibes and energy to that brother he needs it um just like we all do so with that being said go check out his podcast he's really good at what he does he really is go check him out podcast his show whatever you want to call it his facebook youtube all that stuff with them say peace of shalom thank you all for hanging out if you've not yet subscribed make sure you click that subscribe button also if you're listening on the podcasting apps make sure you click that subscribe button i'm sure there's one on there somewhere right spotify i heart radio apple podcast wherever you're listening there's a subscribe button look for it click it and probably next to it it's probably a share button too click the share button i see it i can see it when you share the videos i see other people re-share retweet and that's cool man thank y'all for that i appreciate it it means a lot a little goes a long way we ain't stopping this is what i do i found my purpose and um am i done by no means is it in no we're going to keep going just getting this information out if you got a new medium on how i can get this information out listen let's talk about it how can we do it i got books meditations podcasts rap music like so much more like we do sessions we do so much we do retreats what are some other ways i'm in my purpose i'm in my truth find yours do whatever you got to do to make it happen and i guarantee you that once you fix your eyes on it you gotta get clear on it once you do that the universe which is all creation will join with you to help you accomplish it stop working against god god's trying to get you in your purpose get in it stop fighting against the creator tap in tune in get in the flow and let go what are you waiting for you got my permission peace guys we'll do it again shalom shalom well that does it for this episode folks to hear more episodes of the truth zika podcast head over to truthseeker.com and if you're wanting to support the show and get rewards go to our patreon page at patreon.com forward slash truth seeker


