Spiritual Awakening, Poetry and Psychedelics | Sean Seid | TruthSeekah Podcast

Spiritual Awakening, Poetry and Psychedelics | Sean Seid | TruthSeekah Podcast
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is my friend sean side sean welcome
to the true secret podcast my friend how
are you
hey y'all it's an honor to be joining
you um
feeling very well today it's been a long
day beautiful day
and um we're really grateful for the
opportunity to
sit down and have a conversation with
you about the real the raw the authentic
and maybe some of this poetry
yes sir so so where are you at right now
i'm in my front yard pensacola florida
looks like the sun's maybe got about
another 10 minutes before it goes behind
that tree line
nice nice so um we met a couple weeks
ago my wife surprised me
and uh told me to get in the car and we
wound up in pensacola which is an
hour away from mobile alabama where
where i reside
and uh we ended up at the pacific cava
bar
in pensacola florida and just so
happened there was a
open mic night and a bunch of poetry and
people were sharing and you got up there
and read
an excerpt from your book and some of
your poetry and i loved it
i was blown away and i was like man i'd
love to get you on the podcast
and pick your brain about some of this
deep beautiful
poetic uh stuff that that you're sharing
on there man so
so here we are man do do you go to the
uh the cava bar regularly or was you
just visiting the the open mic
how does that work for you um no i'm
definitely a regular there i started
going
probably a few months ago um i was
looking for a place to do my german
homework you know
um wanted to get out of the house more
often and i ride a bike everywhere i
don't have a vehicle at this time other
than my bike and my legs so
i had to be somewhere nearby and somehow
or another i got turned on to pacific
cava and they treated me like family
from day one like
it feels a little bit like cheers when
you walk in there like people really
care about you they want to get to know
your name
yeah they're open to having
conversations they're open to playing
chess
like um you know it's just like a really
welcoming environment so i started going
there probably two or three
times a week nice nice we uh so we went
that one time and it would just so
happen to be
open mic and uh went this past friday as
well
met some friends who were in pensacola
so i went over there and they wanted to
know they wanted to hang out somewhere i
was like let's go to the cava bar
so we went there and and had the uh the
cava and the uh the
kratom tea which is amazing which do you
prefer
personally i drink cava every now and
then uh but i'm more of a cappuccino man
myself
if i'm if i haven't exceeded my caffeine
limit for the day i like a warm brew
nice pleasure for sure are you gonna be
at the uh open mic
the next one coming up more than likely
god willing
i'll probably see you there man for sure
for sure it would be good
so uh do you have a a verse do you have
a poem that you want to open up with
something sure something deep something
spiritual i'm sure they all
are but uh i i loved what i heard so i'm
sure the audience will enjoy it
i'm gonna find the most superficial poem
i can about
uh we'll see i like to just kind of open
at random and see what comes out
there you go
and what's the name of your book go
ahead and drop that real quick oh yeah
maybe i can show you it might be
backwards i don't really know how camera
technology works these days
but it is called the love inside spelled
i-n-s-e-i-d because i'm on a mission to
help people learn how to pronounce my
last name
and i love puns i love games and so
that was my little joke to the book but
the idea is about finding the love
inside of yourself
um you know because so often we get on
missions to try to find
what we're craving and what we're
looking for outside of ourselves and
if you're at the point on your journey
where you recognize that that's
inevitably a dead end
then you start to turn inward and so
this is a book of uh
poetry for any soul who is feeling into
that journey
ready to undergo that journey or perhaps
has been on that path for a long time
so um yeah here's a poem this one's
called beyond your body
and i apologize if you get to hear
some leaf blowing and some ambulances in
the background maybe it'll
add a nice ambient texture to the poetry
beyond your body
beyond your body waxing and waning in
time
i love you beyond your gifts
your actions your capacity for greatness
i love you beyond anything you could
ever
offer me anything i think i might like
from you
any roles you could help me fulfill
i just love you
and no matter how this plays out
or how long we know or have known each
other no matter what difficulties may
arise or how the wheel of karma may turn
i made my home in love and i won't be
moved
but i hear the mystic whisper there is
nowhere to stand
fine then i'll dance in love
i'll just keep dancing around like an
all night cake walk
i'll dance in rollerblades during the
couple's skate whether or not you'll
hold my sweaty hand
i'll glide from sincere recognition to
honest admission
yep i still love you here
and here and way over here
and no even if i'm tussling and
struggling and even when my human heart
may flicker
under the wrestling grip of my mortal
mind
i will always prevail with love
for you for this for all
forever p.s
i sincerely hope in the intermission
between lives
we can meet up at the after party sip
some cosmic punch
and laugh about how strange it all was
to live and to love on planet earth
beautiful yeah i remember you shared
that one and that's the one i was like
man that is so deep
some of those things that you shared and
that what what whose perspective is that
man
because i i obviously i can you know it
could be your perspective and
heart for humanity but i just feel like
it's a a collective or
something even bigger than you you know
what i'm saying
that cosmic i love you if you will you
know exactly
you know i feel like um the i and the
you
are are constantly shifting in this
poetry
and um i think it's
it's the the aspect of our self that
remembers or recognizes
itself even in the other
even whomever you may be looking at or
whatever you may be experiencing you
recognize
that everything is just a reflection of
yourself from that state of the
observer and that observer to me
embodies the
the unconditional love that is
untouchable untaintable untarnished
by whatever we may go through in our
human lives
i like it like it went so
when did you experience that when did
you come into that knowing
of this at something outside of your
i'll say outside it was it could because
you you
prefaced at the beginning going within
to experience
everything without is what i say go
within to get out kind of thing like
when did you experience that
um you know people call a spiritual
awakening or or what you where you
are looking for is already within you
that's that's a huge shift absolutely
um i'm sure that there are a bunch of
different ways to answer that question
but
the one that comes to mind in this
moment is that
um i feel like i was part of a wave of
the 2012ers
something really magical was in the air
2012 in my opinion
a combination of a lot of millennials
kind of like um
getting out of high school and coming
into
our adult life and kind of realizing
that the american dream as it was
taught to us from from a young age was
really not viable um
and those veils were starting to fall
apart um
there was also of course the the the
mystic story of
perhaps the end of the world or at least
to create transition
with the end of the mayan calendar
looming in the air
and then for me if i can be extremely
honest
that was my first experience with
psychedelics that year
and the first time that i broke through
i had the sense of the interconnection
of things i had
i had an experience that was too large
for words but
the word that i was able to keep coming
back to was love
and um you know a lot like one of my
favorite teachers rahm das
psychedelics created a doorway for me
but
i feel like what i've come to as i've
gotten a little bit
deeper a lot a little bit further down
my own path
it's the recognition that um
that psychedelics may be a key that can
help unlock that door but that doesn't
mean that you need to stay there
fiddling with that key that there
is always an opportunity to come
into the experience of love and
and seeking peak experiences might
become an attachment
in and of itself that continues to
perpetuate an illusion of separation
from that but from that experience i
started to discover
meditation i also felt like i was having
a
mental breakdown mental breakthrough
like a complete
uh dissolution of who i thought i was
and what i thought reality was about
uh which can be a very confusing space
to be in
um and so i i turned on to meditation i
turned on to
practices that could help me find a
sense of grounding and a sense of center
uh essentially while i was being
kind of washed away a little bit of a
death and a rebirth and a renewal
through that
wow what what was the medicine
mushrooms psilocybin or philosophy
yep golden teachers by any chance or
probably
yeah yeah i'm man similar man it shifted
me so much
and um found out that what i was looking
for was already within me and
stop looking outside of yourself you're
not becoming you already are
it's already in all the things that you
want all of the dreams and visions that
you're looking outside or looking at
other people
who are better at you at those things
know everything that i've given you
everything that you need is already
within
yeah and uh approaching your life or or
a life review from a non-biased
why it is biased it's so loving it's
like a loving
standpoint but but a stern one at that
you know
and i've heard that encounter and it
changed me did you did you write about
that in the book or is everything kind
of inspired
about that a little bit like because i'm
sure that that echoes through
many things that that you're you're
working on
i don't i don't know that um that
psychedelics or mushrooms made a
discreet appearance but i can definitely
say that
um my experiences with psychedelics
reconnected me to myself in such a way
that i realized that poetry
is like my natural state of being it's
like it's how i relate to language
and it helps me reconnect with with that
authentic and that poetic voice inside
of myself and so
a lot of my a lot of my trips were just
me talking to myself and
and reintegrating that poetic lens in
that poetic language
and so i don't know that necessarily
i was influenced so much as i was
reminded of who i was through
through those experiences that's good
now you said the
you know many of your experiences and
then you kind of alluded
kind of prefaced it we're like hey this
isn't this isn't a party drug
like don't get addicted this is a tool
it will serve you like this you know um
did you did you get you didn't get
caught up where you was always trying to
do it every weekend or that kind of
thing
because i know it can easily happen but
did you
like what was your experience with that
mine was kind of like
i mean i talk about it a lot it's been a
huge impact but
like you know just a few times it's
something i'm not doing every weekend
there's no way it's like it takes six
months to unpack
like what i encountered you know so to
go back next weekend would be a
disservice kind of thing what
did you get addicted to psychedelics and
like things like that or
i wouldn't say i wouldn't say i ever
reached that level but i did see that
and a lot of people around me and i
think i was i was immediately wary of
that
and um i fell in with a really group
cool group of people
who were who were already on to the idea
that plants can be medicine
and that they have their own uh they
have their own spirit
and so through that vein i was
introduced
to the idea of creating an intentional
and a ceremonial setting
yeah um i was introduced to
wachuma um what's uh
what's the standard name or the american
name for wachuma it's uh san pedro
right the cactus and then
uh through through that river you know
they had actually my friends had come
from an ayahuasca center and i've been
hearing a little bit about ayahuasca it
wasn't
so openly known at that time it was just
sort of like
breaking the radar for a number of
people a couple of documentaries had
just come out
and i i immediately decided since the
experiences that i had that i wasn't
going to
cling to an idea that ayahuasca was
going to
um in some way enlighten me or
or save me or anything to that regard
but
i stayed open to the idea that if she
called to me that she would have
something to teach me
and sure enough i ended up getting
called to volunteer at a center in costa
rica
for four or five months
and sure enough that experience was
incredibly deep
a lot to unpack i imagine i'm still
unpacking and
will continue on to unpack for the rest
of my life some of the things that were
uncovered
in that season yeah and then uh finally
last year
um a friend and i in our community at
large we were able to
bring in a native american chief to host
a traditional tp
peyote ceremony um and once again that
was
a very profound experience um and i
appreciate it
yeah right outside of it milton so
this wasn't chris rushing by any chance
was it
no okay i've got some friend i got a
friend who's
who's talking about st uh he's
affiliated with the native american
church
and uh of inner light it's actually
called the ocular nueva
uh church of inner light out of warrior
alabama i think it is
and uh they were talking about having a
hub in pensacola so i didn't know if
that was
with them or not so no
different group but um so much of these
plant medicines you know they
they often remind you if you're open to
hearing it it's the same message that
everything that you need
is inside of you but in my own path they
they have come along like allies and
like guides that
reconnect me to the primordial they open
um a clear channel to be able to
sit with your ancestors in a very open
and a very honest way
and so you know drawing back to the
original question
i have a lot of respect for plant
medicine i have a lot of respect for
people
who devote a lot of their paths to to
treating it well and helping people
find it who are called to it um and i
just know that i personally
feel that it should be for myself
very reserved for very very ceremonial
very intentional settings
um if at all at this point for sure i'm
with you 100
uh even with what i do there's a there's
a
you know i do spiritual and esoteric
hip-hop and i put a lot of my
experiences within my music and
and there's other people who do that but
but they uh
they almost like brag and boast and like
do it in a party atmosphere
and every weekend and i'm like hey and
people are like i listen to you
and i listen to those guys like you guys
are so similar i said hold on like i
hope you
understand that this is something very
special to me this is something very
sacred
that every six months once a year
every three year like come on like we
have you have to honor it so i don't
want to be
wrapped into you know uh you know
americanizing or
making something seem so nonchalant and
honestly to tell you the truth when i
when i was on my
my uh my psilocybin journey or with
golden teachers
like i was checked because i've got all
of this stuff in my music about us
leaving your body and traveling
stargates and communicating with et's
and
angels and all i got far out stuff you
know and even
on the psilocybin journey i was checked
it's like okay you're the one
talking about this stuff nonchalantly
you talking about traveling stargates
and how to open up portals in the mind
to
you're talking about this okay we want
to let you know how severe this is
and if and to make sure that you know
what you're doing and you want to
keep moving forward so it was like this
real sovereign
check that i got from the golden
teachers if you will
and uh but it's very special you know
and it's not to be taken
not to be entered into lightly any of
them you know
that uh things become a crutch or or it
loses its sacredness you know because
you it's something that you do
every day or all the time you know just
like
i'm even reminded i want to start
working with like tobacco
right you know a lot of native american
shamans use
tobacco and and and for for cleansing
and
even communing with the spirit behind
tobacco working with it as an ally like
you said
but you if you talk to somebody who's
you know smoked
for 20 years or you smoke cigarettes
like they kind of
that's like you know they don't really
see how that could be sacred or
something right because it's something
that they do
all the time so the cool thing is
working with the plants and just being
open to learning those allies we
really have a a lot a lot of allies that
we can work with
i mean i was kind of just introduced to
um
to uh cacao and cacao ceremonies have
you tried cacao which is like straight
chocolate have you done that in
ceremonial
all right i forgot i left that off my
list um cacao is
so beautiful yeah um it's just has a
really
heart-expanding heartwarming way of
bringing people together and
yeah and bringing people into a state of
being more comfortable
to be kind of honest and on the surface
or rather not necessarily on the surface
but you know right there like in direct
contact with the moment
yeah cacao's been amazing we we do uh
we we do some some retreats and uh we we
use cacao when we do our breath work and
meditation and
it opens you up man to live from the
heart man it's so good
so good but cacao and i mean i'm sure we
could just name
so many i mean essential oils and stuff
like there's so many essential oils and
frankincense and
just just our allies man in in the plant
kingdom and and to get familiar and to
heal that relationship
that has been abused and many people are
abusing and and heal our
relationship with the elements with the
water
with fire you know and coming back and
saying hey hey
just showing up and we just got this
little easy practice hey my name is
derek
like i just want to say hello and that
kind of thing
you know and just introduce myself you
know to the elements and
and rekindle that that relationship and
i think that if if we do that then we
wouldn't see as many
tsunamis and and
and and hurricanes and that thing i
think that just like a child that throws
a
temper tantrum because they because they
want attention
you know i think that our friends and
our family in in that
and those the elements you know are
wanting to say hello
absolutely um that actually reminds me
of a poem you mind if i read this one
let's go
yeah cool this one's called fire i am
you
fire i fear you
but fire i am you
teach me of my power and how to respect
the
insatiable nature of your capacity
show me how to warm hands in winter
and how to soften even the hardest of
beans in the deepest of pots
show me how to be a light to read by
how to be a flame to dance and see by
how to burn steady and true show me what
you
can really do what i can really do
when i run unrestrained uncontrolled and
uncontained
that i may truly understand what it is
to be out of balance
that i then may remember humility and
reverence of the elements
i thought i could control
show me how i can safely hold you in my
body
and in my home how to keep you fed
that my life force may directly reflect
your spiraling flames
how to hold the boundaries of the circle
safe sacred and contained
show me how to burn away that which no
longer serves
to watch for new life in the ashes
to respect the needs of the forest
to grieve these losses of untold lives
and understand how i may once again come
to live
in harmony with your spirit
i apologize for the ways i abused you
to light the furnaces of my industry
to push my agenda upon our mother nature
thank you for teaching me once again
the painful and necessary lesson of
respect
thank you for sitting with me through so
many cold moons
and occasionally leaving me in the dark
nights of
my soul thank you fire
for showing me once again how to live
how to die and where to go
beautiful rekindling that relationship
just saying hey
that's good yeah rekindling
amazing good stuff dude i love it man
um it's breakthrough you know we start
seeing
the divine and all everything you know
most most time it starts off with people
you see the divine in people you see the
god in people you see
a reflection of yourself and another
person and then for some people
it is the plant kingdom it is gay sun
gazing
you know it is you know uh meditation
and seeing the divine in
in all things is where where it starts
to
you know get a little bit deeper the
journey um
takes a shift we begin to honor all
people as we honor ourselves and we
honor whatever god it is that you follow
like in everything right and
i can see it in this situation i can see
it in the circumstance i see it in that
flower
i see it in that negative part of my
life i'm thankful for it
you know in everything and all things
give thanks
you know and uh
you know it's that whole namaste you
know
you're out of me god you know
and it sounds to me like you've gotten
to that beautifully ironic part of the
path where you start to see it where
you're not seeing it
you recognize the divine in the part
of yourself and the part of your life
where you're having a really difficult
time
acknowledging it well yeah i mean you
know we go through these
dark nights of the soul and we'll give
anything to get get out of it
like some people don't make it out you
know what i'm saying like
i feel like i scarcely made it out of
the ones that i went through
and i'm so i'm happy and so i'm never
gonna never do that again but now i sit
in this place of gratitude with the
creator and say
thank you uh yeah for bringing me out
but for allowing me to go through it you
know because it's
made me the person that i have that i am
today uh the empathy that i have for
people
is real it's not fake i don't have to
act like i care about you
i don't have to act like i'm into these
things or whatever like i really have a
genuinely
empathy for the things that i believe in
because i've been through it you know
and uh so i'm thankful that it's made me
the person that i am today
and uh and i honor that people call it
their demons i've made peace with my
demons and i'm thankful for them
you know and uh but but like i said when
you're going through it it's another
story
but now though when we go through those
trials and stuff we can even
because you learn from what what you go
through or you grow through what
you grow through what you go through so
now there's growth there so when i
acknowledge a feeling
or um a season in my life that is
you know um hard you know i know that it
that it takes hardships to
you know to uh to get that that that
beautiful wine out of the wine press you
know
that we got to be pressed that there's
something beautiful coming out of us
that's
deep down within us that has to come out
and it's through adversity and it's
through
those hard times that it comes out so i
would never be ashamed of anything
um you know i where i wear it proudly
and i'm thankful
that i'm here you know and you know
there's gratitude
that i mean you're talking about like
you know a lot of the different
plant ceremonies that almost feel like a
near-death experience you know they're
almost
people talk about having a near-death
experience and they come back and
they're just
changed they saw the light they saw
jesus they saw god they saw whatever it
changed them
they leave their jobs and they start
doing you know what they were put here
to do
and uh and essentially plant ceremonies
like near-death experiences man you a
bad trip i thought i was gonna die
you know there's all kinds of ways that
that happens but
you come back with gratitude man i'm
thankful every every breath
every heartbeat on this side of eternity
while we're here let me let me be let me
be uh let me be a good steward of the
time
that i have before we meet in the
intermission in between
yeah yeah
good steward of your time that's huge
let me ask you though because i do have
a question just for my own
uh um the the ceremonies right so i
haven't you know had a chance to to say
hello to peyote but
uh we have the ability to i have friends
who who have their own
land and things like that and we're
talking about setting it up and all i
have to do is say yes and
we'll do one it's a little i'm a little
nervous though as far as
the intensity you know versus so what
was the intensity
how would you rate between let's just
say psilocybin ayahuasca and
uh peyote as far as like oh i'm never
coming back or i'm not feeling good like
because i've heard different things you
know i've watched different movies and
then i hear different stories and and i
feel like they
you know it's not as scary as i've seen
on tv
wow yeah uh i mean i can only speak for
the two ceremonies in the one weekend
where i was there and i imagine that um
everybody's experienced all of these
different ways of holding this container
are going to produce different results
the medicine person or whoever is
facilitating um and whoever they may be
being
aided by that's going to influence the
results the people
in the container in the tp that's going
to influence it and even then
you know from one person to the person
sitting next to them i'm sure that the
experiences are radically different
i can say for myself one of the
analogies that i had coming out of it
was that um
didn't make me do anything
didn't make me see anything didn't make
me go anywhere at all
but showed me the path
up the mountain and it was a climb
essentially and said you could climb as
high as you want
but it's of your own will it's of your
own volition and i was really thankful
for chief bomani
delbert black fox who was
holding the anchor that
the medicine was about prayer and
the beautiful thing about peyote is that
it had
this very strange effect on me of of
making my mind
wander making it very difficult to
listen to what he was saying or the
music that was being sung or to focus on
the fire
which required a constant
returning of my effort to focus
to come back to the moment and to come
back to my prayers
and i believe that that challenge that
the the medicine was presenting to me of
of kind of being a little bit wavy or a
little bit distracting
was providing the grit was providing the
friction was providing the resistance
by which i could feel
my own strength in the developing of my
own strength to
to return to my intention to return to
my prayer to return to the moment
and then to bring that of course into my
everyday life to integrate
that remembrance because i really feel
like
so much of the past is
about um being in a very distracting
world
being surrounded by i feel now in our
modern culture and with modern
technology
more distractions than have ever existed
before
and i think that that means that this is
a very potent time
because all of those distractions um
provide you leverage to focus to
re-center to come back to your prayers
and intentions yes
that's good man um yeah i remember just
that you know as a kid
living in the country just being out in
the woods playing or just sitting around
not
not having to really be have your mind
focused or distracted by anything you're
just in the moment
you know this this uh you know childhood
the nostalgia of childhood and
and um what is it um
you know not um innocence
being innocent and uh and now we're just
so distracted like you said so
finding things that remind us of that
for me it's a lot of like old music not
any anything nine
eighties and nineties reminds me of my
childhood instantly becomes a time
machine
to bring me back you know a little bit
of peace of my times were easier but
riding my bike now today like i love i
jump on my bike and i'm i'm
i'm 11 again you know 10. riding through
the neighborhood right now i jump on my
bike and we go and the wind's hitting me
and i'm
i'm a little kid again i'm trying to go
off a little jump even now like if i
fall i'm gonna get hurt but it's still
like
it's worth it you know and so i think
that um
you know plant medicines and not just
plant medicines i mean
we're just talking about mindfulness
meditation you know
those practices that that bring us to
ourselves because it's almost like
we're trying to um distract ourselves
with
with uh entertainment and and gadgets
and facebook and we're our minds are
changing
you know we're not our minds aren't the
same anymore like when we were children
and
the children coming up now their minds
aren't like ours because there's way
more distractions and way more
troubles that present themselves to to
the average
child and so to fight for that innocence
or to return to that innocence is
something that i think that
again not only the plant spirits and
plant medicine but
just you know the creator if you will
because it's the same messages that you
get to be now be in the present being
the moment uh you know eckhart tolle's a
millionaire off of teaching people the
power
of just be sitting in the moment and
focusing on that
and it's so special and so so needed
and i think you i think your poetry does
that
this reminds us that we're human you
know and just to be in your body
because we're doing things to to leave
our body you know
and i have to i even have to check you
know even the spiritual movement to
leave our bodies let's
go astral travel let's remove you and
leave our bodies listen like just don't
get caught up in escapism
let's be passionate be 100 human and 100
divine at the same time you know um
there's a song by tool uh um lateralis
that really goes into
like detail at the end of that song
about i can weep like a widow
i can bathe in the the fountain i can
touch the beauty
and of my own divinity and still
be human and have my fear on the ground
which is so important
absolutely absolutely yeah you know
there i have a couple stories for that
real short uh one and i don't know if
this is factual but i love it as an
anecdote
is that the man who invented float tanks
was experimenting with getting in his
float tanks for long hours on ketamine
and was having these incredible astral
travels
and was regularly visiting a council of
interdimensional beings that were much
further ascended than himself he felt
and so he felt a little bit like a child
at their table and they would
allow him to be there and not really
not really acknowledge him so much but
he had done that a number of times and
he was sitting there at their counsel
and then they turned to him
and they say you know it's cool that you
want to come here
and listen to this but you're a human
and you're meant to be on earth that's
where your curriculum is
that's where you're meant to be learning
and the
the second story you know ties in very
well to what you were just saying
um i was very into uh lucid dreaming
very early in my journey i still love
dreamwork
and um it seems to be an uh a gateway
drug to discover a little bit about
astral projection and so i was
interested uh
of the validity of that and it of my
capacity
to astral travel through lucid dreaming
because uh during the lucid dream you're
aware that your body is already
relaxed and that it's a little bit
easier for some people to travel at that
point
and my first big experience with astral
traveling i felt like i was out of body
and i was walking around and i
immediately started to
interact with the being that um did not
feel of good intent
and i turned and my
body was laying on the ground like
lifeless
and um and i couldn't get back into it
immediately and the fear that that
invoked in me
of course i did end up waking up or at
least theoretically i did
uh i came back into my body and i
realized you know that that
is an incredibly dangerous thing to
leave your body unattended in that way
and furthermore i realized that there's
really no point
you know we didn't incarnate to escape
these bodies
i feel i feel that we incarnated to come
and be
in this experience and yeah it's really
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some of the time but i think that that's
exactly what we came for
and you know i've i've had to learn in
my own spiritual journey to
um to not judge the way that other
people are treating their journey
and to do my best to provide what i feel
is
is wisdom or insightful at least as it's
appeared to me
without um being judgmental of what
people are doing with their particular
journeys and what they're
what they're interested in or what
they're drawn to but i can say for
myself that
i i agree with you wholeheartedly that
the place to be
is right here and right now with our
feet on the earth you know
who knows winner if we even get this
opportunity again
yeah singular soul and then of course on
a collective level like
we are everything right so not only are
we the
whole universe but we are this earth and
everything on it
and so what a beautiful experience to
get to see yourself from this one of a
kind
unique vantage point of this particular
incarnation
yeah do whatever you can to be in the
moment to slow it down
you know our perception of time that's
moving and
and aging you know and uh to be present
and and to be um thankful for this
experience again like
you say like you know the afterlife
there's so many questions of uh you know
what happens if we
even if you get to come back you know
it's like i feel like that's a cop-out
in a sense because like yeah i just get
we get to come back and do it again it's
like
i don't want to come back and do it
again ask somebody else like i like me
i love my family my wife my daughter
my mother like i love these people i
don't want to come back into another
family and forget about those guys
and for some reason people if like the
woke people they're like yeah
they feel like they're gonna remember
this life when they come back as an
infant
somewhere else and relearn everything as
like you're not gonna remember
those people so just to be present man
you know and to
to to love and to to share and be a
human
um because the analogy is very strange
as far as escapism goes because
you know we we want to in this reality
let's just say we want to
leave our bodies we want to go to heaven
we want to travel
to other universes and and those things
and it becomes addicting
and there's comes movements i know
people do it every night you know and
it's
something they look forward to and it's
fun it's comforting um
but let's just say that when you when
you do cross over to the other side and
you are
in heaven or you're in a holding place
or wherever you are i feel like it's
going to be the same thing it's like
it's almost like the grass is greener
the grass is always greener because when
you're in heaven you want to incarnate
you want to be human again
you want a body so you want to come back
so hold on when you had a body
all you wanted to do was come back up
here and now
now you're up here and now all you want
to do is go back
you know so it's like be present and
enjoy it you know this this place is
is definitely multi-dimensional but um
but yeah
don't escape the human part you know
there's a lot of movements that
that i'm affiliated with that uh they
demonize the flesh they demonize the
body they demonize the earth
um as something that is is broken that
is something that is uh
it needs fixing or or um
you know it's you know just experience
it for what it is and and to hold on to
it
put your feet on the ground keep your
head in the clouds though
because i feel like we get downloads
from those places though you know to
to to bring back here you know as far as
wherever they come from whether they're
it's a akashic
knowledge that's sure universal wisdom
the book of life as it would
some would call it and we're getting
downloads and inspirations from it and
we can inspire
and we can change like do you feel that
some of your uh
your work is that that way like it was
written through you
you know obviously you need to you need
to take take
credit for like you know this beautiful
stuff you brought to the table but i
know
sometimes you just i know you are
because you're like me you're blown away
like what the heck
who wrote this you know i don't know if
you can read that
you could let me know if it's not in
focus or if it's backwards or something
like that through
i was very through exactly you know i
feel like i got to be a collaborator
in this but um you know you know one of
my one of my favorite prayers to spirit
is
you know feel free to speak to me and
through me you know
allow your wisdom to come to me and
through me you know
with what time i have here uh i would
like to
i would like to sing truth into this
world i would like what i have to say
to be meaningful to come from that place
of
wisdom and and unconditional love and
that that divine
remembrance and that beauty and i feel
like
you know and intention
is so beautiful in that way whatever you
keep coming back to whatever you
keep focusing on will come true
for you i believe it does and so you
know i believe that poetry in particular
is a lot like jazz you know we have
uh you might be musically gifted and you
might have all of this
uh conceptualization of music theory and
understanding of notes and melodies and
harmonies
but when you get up for a live jazz
performance you know you're in the
moment you're raw
and all of that immense material that is
inside of you is being synthesized by
the creative spirit if you will and so
that
to the degree that you can jazz well is
i believe
a reflection of your willingness to
surrender
and so i believe that i'm on a path of
learning how to do that allowing
what comes through me to be uh as pure
as possible
have you seen the movie soul the picture
yes
it's interesting that they were he was a
jazz musician right
learning to gel into to
to uh feel that rhythm and play it and
and see where it takes you
you know right and for him you know to
be able to come back to just playing
like you were saying to
get out of the idea that he had to be or
become somebody
but to be able to come back to just the
the spirit of enjoying the moment for
what it is and being able to be fully in
it
you know and for him he was so focused
on
having like one particular mission right
one particular purpose
and i love that the inspiration that the
spark for him was
just the remembrance uh of being
in in the entirety of your life you know
really tasting the pizza and feeling the
rain
yeah it's funny to say that um because i
throw this out there just because it was
an
epiphany to me of like just death i tell
you what
there was there was a show that i talk
about death all the time on this podcast
i talk to people who
you know channel and ghosts and
just so much stuff but there was i
watched um hill house
on netflix oh it was really good but
pretty much about a haunted house and it
goes into the story of the ghost and
you know how it's haunted and what they
really were and
the messages they had and it's pretty
deep but it had a
it was a really deep episode but it had
me like
a series and just had me thinking about
death a lot it was a lot of
you know your time is limited and it had
me just you know going into that
in that this revelation it was like
chocolate you know
chocolate like you know where again
you're here be a human because there's
no chocolate up there
there's no chocolate where you're going
people like how do you know
it's whatever i want it to be it's like
i i'm pretty sure it's not like this
i'm pretty sure there's no grass i'm
pretty sure there's no dogs like
you know it's it's ether man you know
what i'm saying like it's
it's thought it's vibration it's we're
slowed down and maybe you can create a
universe maybe there is a place like
this maybe you get to come back i don't
know
but what if there isn't like what did
the small
things the taste of chocolate you know
and that was just
something that like because you take it
for just the small things that you take
it's just a meditation you take the
small things for granted the taste of
pizza
like you know don't take it for granted
like
it's one of those things where like when
you become so used to something until
you don't have it no more and then you
miss it oh man
you know when we were kids we you know
we played football outside or
we played hide and go seek like had all
these people like
you know you just reminiscing about the
things that you don't have anymore and
like
you know i don't know i'm going with it
but
it is a meditation you know and it and
for that i'm just thinking of like
you know how do we do that now
how do we play hide and go seek you know
now and relive that
that the beauty that seems to be gone
you know
yeah it's funny that you bring that up
because um
i focused for about six months on
producing this book and i
thought a lot about what might happen or
what i would like to do
you know after it came out and i
recently
decided to leave the security of my day
job and transition into
um more openness for like my particular
my authentic
offerings my ability to do my dharma
and one thing that i love to do is teach
i have a background as a
yoga teacher and a meditation teacher
but i found that teaching those
practices over and over
for me got very stagnant because i
wanted to see people
playing and so i've actually been
developing workshops
around how do we weave mindfulness with
playfulness because mindfulness can be
beautiful but it can also be dry
and it can forget that childlike spirit
of
of not being so serious and being able
to to joke and to be curious and
to play characters to play um
you know even with your emotions and
even with your body and with your voice
to dance
to sing to bring all of these things
together um
and i think that's exactly what you're
coming to you know it's like the idea
that
being present in your life and being
able to be playful or being able to be
like a child again
it's just like christ said you know if
you want to enter the gates of heaven
you have to be like a child again
yep that's that innocence man the return
to innocence and like and also what you
said that your dharma like
kept recapturing your dream that thing
that was taken away from you what you
love to do
as a child go out and do it like you
know
no who makes makes the rules you know of
what you got to do and how to earn an
income and
i mean i'm in it now you know i'm about
four years in it
i was 33 you know um when i when i was
launched into this full
time i've been working on it my whole
life ever since i was a little kid i've
been dreaming of
getting to wake up and talk to cool
people for a living you know what i'm
saying to be able to make
make make my living and pay my bills and
versus having to go do something that i
hated every job i had i hate it
every job and i've done it i've done a
lot of stuff i was there because i had
to be there and i was daydreaming about
this making music talking to people
making art helping people
like you said helping people facilitate
experience encounter
meditation yoga breath work like let's
keep going you know there's so much that
we have to play with and
like to recapture that i'm big on that i
don't want to beat people up with it
you know because some people love
changing oil you know what i'm saying
some people yeah but you got to find out
what it is that
that's your heartbeat you know that what
you love to do some people love
serving people and hosting at
restaurants and stuff
me every job i had i hated i did not
want to be at any of them and i was 33
years old
you know and just like hey this is
running away from me i'm
gonna go to the grave and you know this
is gonna be a pipe dream something that
you're getting too old and stuff like
that before it really opened up for me
and i was 33 when i when i launched and
doing music
graphic art and just anything i love
doing all of it it's creating
full time and uh so there's definitely
hope
the world is different like you said
that american dream that we've been sold
and how you have to do it or
you know what you need and got to have
good insurance and you know
all that kind of stuff like you know
so much changing
and rightfully so it is changing
don't need college you can go to college
but you you can play video games on the
internet and make
more than both of your parents combined
you know
that's the beauty of it the reality you
we're in a place where you get to create
it
so coming from the mindfulness coming
from the yoga coming from the
plant ceremonies that's how you get a
game plan
would you say that yeah did you get a
game
it seems to be different for for
different people but
um you know my life systematically like
one layer after another taught me how to
die and taught me how to be reborn and
every time i was reborn
i would come in with with a refound
sense of clarity
about what i'm here to do um and really
who i
am you know because i feel like we focus
so much on doing in the western world
it's a very masculine thing
it's a very active it's a very um
it's a very like uh objective for like
the
um the person being the object of
descendants like we're constantly trying
to frame
who we are in relation to the verbs that
we're doing and even when you ask
somebody like you know when you want to
get to know them so much uh
so much of the time people will ask well
what do you do you know they're trying
to get an idea of who you are and
what you do yeah but i think that that's
you know it's counterintuitive it's like
the more that you discover who you are
the more that what you do can just
become a natural reflection of that
and uh you know i feel like we all have
journeys in that there are phases
there's progress and
it could be very easy to get into this
idea that you have to rush
through that you have to figure things
out very quickly but the
the story that i ascribe to is one of
like a blessed assurance it's one of a
deep faith
that we are all getting to where we are
going
and we are all on a perfect journey
perfectly timed
every mistake is perfect uh in in
illuminating and
and showing us who we really are and and
tearing off the layers
of things that we had surrounded
ourselves with
for a sense of identity or poor sense of
social security
because being who you are especially in
this world can at times
require a lot of courage and um and be
very difficult
but it seems to me like you get to a
point where
the alternative is far too painful
and you start leaning into being
yourself no matter how challenging it
may be
because it's it's the only honest thing
that you can even do anymore
yeah yet as always like you hear that
story or
you see it in movies that person that's
like the parents want them to go to
college and they want you to go to law
school and
the parents have these the parents kind
of kind of chose your life or whatever
like yeah you're going to be like your
dad are you going to do this and that
night
and then when they finally do
you know follow their heart and their
parents get mad at them for like
following their heart because it's like
a gamble
kind of thing but like if it works
you're fulfilled man
you know like that's worth the gamble
fulfillment is worth the gamble
to get to wake up every day and love
everything your friends
you know your job your co-workers
wherever your whatever you're doing man
to be in that
situation that money there's no price
that you can put on that
and we've seen it in so many movies and
all that you know
i don't know if i remember the quote
perfectly but it's a nietzsche quote
maybe i can get you close enough
to be able to look it up for anybody out
there who's interested in it
but essentially the idea that i retained
was something along the lines of um
you know going against the tribe or
going against the grain
um can be at times
challenging and at times terrifying
but no price is too high to pay for the
privilege of owning yourself
that's deep
do you own you or does somebody else own
you you know
and we've all been there so part of it
man um
you got another uh poem you can
read for us before we end out absolutely
it looks like i got
three percent left on my battery so i
think we're having
i think we're timing this just perfectly
uh the poem in the back of the book
seems to be fitting
it's called one last blessing
may your table always be full
of good food and great people
may you always find you have what you
need to begin weaving
a dream and discover as you reach for
the yarn at hand
it comes attached to what's needed next
may your feet relearn to open their
ears and remember the ongoing song
of the mother earth may you find
the courage to feel it all
all caps and discover even as the world
tears you apart
so she mends you anew with gold in the
seams
and feathers around your edges
may you rediscover the wellspring of
love
deep within the old growth forest of
your heart
may you carefully track trail after
trail
to that clean running water
that no matter where you may get lost
in your own mind you can always
find another way home
may you weave a life you no longer need
to escape from
may you ensure no songs in your soul go
unsung may you find pleasure
in your authentic service
may your laughter ring clear and true
and no matter where you may go in this
world
may you discover the universe is always
showing
another reflection of you
and if i may i'll speak to you first in
german and then in english
mughadi strasse deer and gagan island
muged their vind
immer and dynam rookenstein zona vorm
may the road rise to meet you may the
wind be always at your back
may the sun shine warm upon your face
and the rains fall soft upon your fields
and until we meet again may god hold you
in the peace of her hand
amen and amen brother beautiful
beautiful beautiful stuff man
i love it i know there was a little
extra emphasis on
may you weave a life that you no longer
need to escape from
so good man so good bro let people know
where they can go to to check out your
work man you got a lot of stuff that
you're bringing to the table
your book if people want to get a copy
um those who are listening on the
podcast they can't see it but can you
hold it up because the book actually
looks really good
and there you have pictures and stuff in
it too right some photography
stuff i've got one percent left on my uh
shot i think i still hear you where's
your
all website okay i will tell you guys
this since
his phone is dead we're gonna go to his
uh um let's see
his instagram is
let's see two participants it says
you're still here sean let me know if
you are
look inside on instagram
but look i-n-s-e-i-d
on instagram you can go and follow his
work there
and check out his links and all of his
stuff as well uh his book just came out
good brother i hope you guys enjoyed
this episode enjoy this talk i
definitely did
and um very good stuff so make sure
y'all check his work out i hate that
we had to lose him there at three
percent i said
let him give us links first so um
let me pull back up the chat here
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david what up man i see you bro uh
christy
um hoary sheet show what up man
shout out to you guys good episode
inspiration man poetry should i i feel
like i should leave out with a with a
poem with a song
song lyric uh from a song you know what
let me
let me do that let me let me lead out
with uh
a song man let me
let me read some lyrics to a song
and on top of that preferably
a new song let's see what i got here
and i'm gonna let's see which one i want
to do
oh here's one okay
no that sucks i can't read that one
let's see
i i got this one here we go wait
we'll do this one
all right so here's one of my new songs
that i'm gonna read in poetry format and
hope that you guys enjoy and this will
be on the new album
white magic song is called as above so
below
let me be a channel a portal of higher
energy
connect within this manner i begin to
raise my frequency
as i align my chakras vision like
nostradamus
spiraled the fibonacci carried the
ancient knowledge
om shanti alignment wheels of light are
shining
seeking in the finding beauty within the
diamond
arriving arise we stand on the back of
giants
to serie and blavatsky maxwell and
banachi
payamas to the body of light illuminati
mckenna was a bridge to the realms of
psilocybin
man is a little world a microcosm inside
the great universe
the fibonacci rainbow hue within the
spectrum luminescence be thy guide
many colors and perspectives direct like
well often blind
born again within the essence of fire
that dwells inside
a fractal that shines global brain
divine mind yeah
connected to the one sun rays one god
saul am on hot lately
a circle in the sky gives life from
beyond
shamayi israel adonai at god
as above so below as within so without
on earth as in heaven of love no doubt
that which has been will always return
again
as we look within we ascend redemption
peace namaste guys that is uh above
as above so below it's gonna be on the
new album white magic
still looking for a feature i sent it
out to a couple people we'll see what
happens
um probably watchmen probably gonna get
on that but it's gonna be on on the new
album
and it'll be on patreon very soon make
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don't have any questions
any questions anybody who's watching
people have questions all the time
um they inbox me and i really i really
uh
reply with one liners hey that's so cool
praise god hey i'm praying for you
you're like i don't
i don't i try not to text too much i
just don't i'd rather do a video i'd
rather address it on here
or i'd rather just talk to you uh in a
video chat so if anybody has any
questions while we're still here
uh let me know before i jump off you got
me for a few more minutes ladies and
gentlemen
before i jump off of here and i'm gonna
jump off i'm gonna stand up on the seat
and jump out
so some more lyrics somewhat let's see
uh between listening to you and son of
saturn this is from david fenton
that's why i need to get on the dang
track son of saturn
uh between listening to you and son of
saturn i've been able to speak
on my profoundly amazing experiences as
a young man
i rise above the lower mantle mentality
awesome bro uh he's good people man
son of saturn's good people need to have
him on there for sure
um so
hory uh see this hoary seat show says uh
do you have any content on exorcism true
sega um i'll probably
be doing more there's there's um
there's stuff in my book about it so i
wrote about exorcisms and like how to
rid yourself of negative entities and
energy
um and a lot of a lot of my stuff is
letting you know how
demons work and operate so that you can
kind of do a self exorcism
so that you can clean or close any doors
that you've opened to any negative or
lower level
energies that we will call demons um
there's some new stuff that i'm writing
as well that talks about spiritual
warfare that goes on in the mind
when whenever you step in to another
person's art field when you get close to
somebody like that exchange of energy
that happens and how there's like this
spiritual warfare or this fight for
dominance
within that area of stepping that
person's arc field or the torus field
and uh and what happens within a
millisecond when you step into that
auric field and
and the greater energy and and those
kind of things and i'm talking about
that so a lot of people
you know suffer from uh you know being
empathic and
and feeling uh beat up by those spirits
that other people are entertaining
so i'm definitely gonna be going into
more info on that
i have a lot of knowledge a lot of um
a lot of um interest in in exorcisms
i've been through them i've done
many of them there's many ways that that
they can be done
um they can you know you can be done
as you would do them like a catholic
ceremony it could be
it could be done in an instant you know
it can be done in an instant of stepping
into
uh right understanding right
knowledge and write doctrine if you will
about who the creator says you are which
is that of love
of truth and of peace so
in an instant you can silence the voice
of any accuser as you
know who you are and so identity plays a
big part because if you don't know who
you are
people and people are it's not about
people the bible says
our warfare is not against flesh and
blood but of powers and principalities
in the heavenly realm
so people are are influenced by spirits
so spirits
begin to tell you who you are so if you
don't know who you are
spirits can tell you who who you are and
what i mean by that
as a follower and devotee of the lord
jesus christ
of who who he says i am who i who am i
in his his mind and his who who does he
say that i am
so that's what i mean about identity
know
who you are in christ because your
identity
in jesus is different than your identity
in adam
where adam messed up and brought a curse
upon your life
christ came to reverse that curse and to
give you
life christ actually became a curse so
that you can be blessed
and so we got to know that and uh if you
you believe it
you receive it it becomes your truth it
becomes your reality and nobody can
change that i'm big on it i'm writing a
lot of stuff on it right now
i've been working on a devotional that
goes through
going through your identity of who you
are in christ and in the etheric realms
as well in the spirit realm too
so you got to know who you are and if
you don't they can tell you who you are
so that's huge and who is they your boss
to tell you who you are your parents can
tell you who you are
you just become a chameleon and you
adapt to the environment and we don't
need to be like that stand for
something or you'll fall for anything so
i'm going to be going into a lot more
detail on on my views and my
my experiences with uh casting out
demons and and if you need any help with
that if you feel that you may be
oppressed or or demonized if you will by
by
lower level energies or haunted or
however you want to put it a lot of
terminology
there get with me message me we do our
thursday night
groups and i'd love to have you on or if
you want to schedule a one-on-one we
could do some stuff too so
anybody out there who's struggling and
and needs to talk to somebody there's
there's a lot of people there for you so
people are going through a lot um
exorcisms are getting
getting popular right now uh people are
dealing with a lot of oppression
a lot of um you know just through with
with uh
you know the state of the world right
now and the confusion and the chaos and
families that are turning against each
other
the scriptures even talk about that that
i will turn father against mother and
mother
uh uh uh father against son and mother
against daughter and
and this chaos within the household and
we're in that time right now
we're in the time where your your your
family members don't want you to hug
them or be close to them right now if
you haven't
um you know you know what i'm saying i'm
not going to say it but you know
we're in that time it's happening for
sure yeah there's certain people we
can't hug
i'm not going to say any names but it is
what it is um
turning households against each other
you're not welcome here until you get
that
sheesh you know i'm not saying that but
we've been told that
um but yeah it's hard and with that
being rejected the rejection that comes
with it for that the uh
feeling like uh like you've done
something wrong or
strongholds so you know we say well
how's that demons it's a stronghold
they get access to you from weaknesses
in your mind
a broken mind uh someone who who don't
who don't know who they are
you know because therefore you allow a
family member again to tell you who you
are
and there's something outside of your
identity in
christ in the messiah and that which is
beautiful
in that which is lovely in that which is
made whole anything
outside of that really is a lie know who
you are
experience it know it down deep to your
core and once you know it nobody can
take it from you
it is a piece that comes with it that
nobody can give you and if they didn't
give it to you they can't take it away
either
so growing that fellowship and that grow
deeper in your relationship with christ
relationship with the holy spirit that's
my only advice
and that's what i hope to do and bring
you inspirational stories and other
people's
uh testimonies about how they're making
it through
right now and uh and it's beautiful
stuff with that i'ma say peace and
shalom man thank you guys for hanging
out in the chat
make sure you sign up on patreon to get
your name in that in that album
and uh it means a lot thank you guys for
believing in the work
and uh we'll do it again thursday thanks
so much tomorrow
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