Rich99 joins TruthSeekah in this episode of The TruthSeekah Podcast as they talk about Rich’s conversion to becoming a follower of Christ. Rich was a drug lord, a womanizer, and a warlock working with voodoo, Santeria, and demons…until Jesus changed his life, and now he raps for Jesus.
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Richard Lorenzo Jr. "DEMONS ARE REAL! A Christians Should Know! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5pnrYf7Byw Transcript source: YouTube captions won't you come come and take with me won't you come come and take me won't you come come and take me away i just wanna be with your source for spiritual and inspirational music teachings and media this show is designed to help you grow in your walk with christ and advance the kingdom of heaven and now your host truth seeker yo what's up ladies and gentlemen this is the true secret podcast i'm true seeker excited and delighted to be with you guys again today for another exciting episode man we cover all things spiritual leave no stone unturned today's going to be a good episode and uh excited for you you guys to be here with us listening live everybody in the live stream live stream chat on youtube facebook periscope no matter where you are man shout out to you and everyone listening on the podcasting apps as well man much love to all of you guys uh before we get started i have to say a huge thank 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available at patreon.com backslash truth seeker the links are in the description um also too this is something cool that i do i'm getting ready to drop a new album and one thing that i do with each album is whoever's supporting whenever we're making that album artwork your name will be embedded in the graphics somewhere usually in the thank you section or i'll find some creative way to put your name in there so at any level of giving when this artwork is created within the next month or so your name will be in that artwork when we do the physical copies and and all that good stuff with the pre-order so that's coming soon guys album is almost done i literally uh got my collabs back uh from the majority of them and just sent out a couple more uh the other day so we're just waiting on a couple songs to be uh completed for that entire project so excited about that man uh now without further ado we're just gonna go ahead and jump into today's conversation guys today my guest is rich 99 christian rapper what's up bro and minister uh i'm sure he wears many hats many titles brother welcome to the podcast man how are you god bless you man i'm good man how you doing brother good good awesome man excited about our talk today uh we have a similar similar background similar testimony we've we've been at different places in our walks before christ bc if you will been to many of the same locations and you talked about some of the stuff that you used to do and we're going to get into some of that and hanging out on bourbon street with the witches and the witchcraft stores and all that kind of stuff and and we're going to talk about all that stuff man so um we have mutual friends uh daniel daniel adams with the supernatural life and who's been a huge blessing to me and he's a good friend and so uh he he linked this together so you know definitely got to give a shout out to him and uh who else is i think i think i see ariana in the chat as well shout out so yeah we're gonna get into your testimony man and we'll just we'll just build dude we we've had some uh beautiful talks already off the air and i was like man see that's the thing too because i know you wanted to kind of feel me out and just see where i was spiritually stuff before you come on but i like to the stuff we already talked about it's like you know we have to revisit it though man so yeah definitely just just give people um i guess a brief bio who you are what you bring to the table uh for those who don't know who you are we'll get started there okay amen so um i come from a city called broward county it's i'm in south florida near miami um i was raised in that area of just around an environment of drugs drug dealing and violence and just um a lot of demonic activity i didn't know that it was demonic i thought it was normal so my surrounding environment pretty much my um what raised me my parents you know come from a poor background from puerto rico didn't really have much they tried their best you know to take care of me and my brother you know they they tried their best man they didn't really have you know jesus too much you know they believed in jesus but they didn't really push it on us my mom was catholic my dad um was christian but just didn't really go to church like you know just just regular you know average american you know americans that come from a different country puerto rico is part of the us but it's still it's like a third world country out there bro so um yeah man we were raised for um we just we tried to get it anyway we could my parents did what they could i got to a certain age where you know i wanted to get it on my own so i started working did anything like i couldn't make money you know was selling you know airheads and candy in school did whatever i could i kept going started you know selling drugs here and there and started robbing a lot um my area it's a big thing to rob you know robbing houses robbing people um just trying to be not just for the money but just to be to fit in because if you didn't do those things you weren't really considered cool you know or are you you didn't fit in with the with the average crowd you know i wanted the girls i wanted the parties i wanted to be part of you know that that whole lifestyle and it just it increased it increased so while i was in high school man i was really good at cheating really good bro really good at cheating on tests like i mean like like different level cheating bro i could see like through my peripherals and i just made sure because my mom i just love my mom so i still love my mom so much i love you mom you're watching and i just wanted to make sure she was happy so even though i did you know i didn't do well um in school i made sure i took care of my tests the way i could but she didn't you know what i'm saying off of girls or whoever i could you know and once i you know finessed my way into a scholarship where i finessed my way into a scholarship and um yeah i went to college bro i went to college i didn't think i was i thought i was going to be straight you know i go straight from broward to or ucf in orlando and i almost failed out the first semester because it was my first time i actually had to study and i didn't know what to do so um i took a lot of adderall that's when i got introduced to adderall and um i actually just decided let me let me try this out you know i barely made it straight seas you know it just declined from there man i just did out of overall kept going i kept drinking i was drinking every day party scene i was i was still i brought that lifestyle to orlando was still selling drugs i was selling a lot of um arizona mid mid grade weed for people that um i know about weed when it was big back then um and i was just and i was moving with these mexicans um this cartel this group of this mexican group that uh came from texas and we were moving a lot of weight man and then they out they got caught up and everything got all messed up and i got i pretty much got scared man um i got into a lot of things from that from high school to that point people get my life getting arrested getting caught going to prison um you know my best friend had a fifty thousand dollar bill for uh something we did that i was part of that i got away with and that really woke me up man it just i was i was living in fear i was smoking a lot of weed and living in fear just straight paranoia always thinking i was gonna get caught and um i just my college just man i did i didn't really care about the grades no more i just was just there just to be there and i just left to new york man i decided one of my boys were going to leave to new york so we left in new york city and we lived in a u-haul for for about a month we put a bed in the back with all our stuff and we literally slept in a u-haul you know at night we would open it up a little bit and we just sleep in the streets and we still going to clubs messing with girls you know trying to get it anywhere we could do and then we were young bro so we couldn't get an apartment finally got an apartment in the hood and crown heights in brooklyn we stayed all them out there for a little bit we got into a little beefy in him and then uh we split up and that was the first time i felt suicidal that was the first time i felt a spirit come on me that's the first time there was something spiritually going on with me and i was dating a girl at the time she's puerto rican and i don't know i believe and i'm not sure but i believe she was you know operating in witchcraft because later on she said that she has her family been doing it and she's been doing it her whole life and um i just went through a lot bro that was the first time i had an experience where i was like what's wrong with me like why am i feeling this oppression when i shouldn't be feeling this oppression i didn't know jesus i had sleep problems so the first time i was sleeping i was actually sleeping next to her and i um and i remember just waking up but i was i couldn't move my prayer feels expanded i could see the entire room and i remember just being freaked out like what's going on and i felt something to the left of me it was a demon i didn't know it was a demon back then but it was something you know evil trying to enter me it was laughing it was getting closer and closer and since i was raised catholic all i knew was you know our father who are in heaven that the you know the lord's prayer i just our father bought our name and i remember a light coming and to this day i don't know if it was jesus or an angel i believe it was an angel but i remember just praying that and something coming just as soon as it came that presence that thing left it had to go and i was i was i couldn't move but the tears were coming down and i remember just the light saying you need to get right you're like you're not living your life right i had the the day before i had robbed the house it was her friend i was like i was living reckless bro drinking every day always on some type of drug popping adderall percocets molly whatever it is to keep up and then a downer at night it was like consistent so and i didn't know what happened bro but that experience woke me up a little bit but i just went right back to it even worse new york city got worse i started bouncing at the clubs i overcame that spirit of suicide and that adderall addiction and um i weaned down on it i would i would take like the point twos and break it down i would take like like a deck of adderall and i would cut it down and like i would i would weigh it out and i would take like point ones i would just take a day just to get off of it and eventually um i did get off of it and um i just in new york city was wild bro drinking all the time i was bouncing in clubs got my security license i had a few people that i knew i was living a terrible lifestyle bro just still robbing bro still i was that was my thing i just was good at robbing i would work i was i could finesse man so i was working at a uh the rockefeller center at a french designer clothing store um called fasten up and i got a job i'm 21 years old bro and i got a job working in the stock room you know robbing thousands and thousands of dollars of clothes every week like i would have a system i have people come on and my boys come from washington heights new york uptown on west side they would come on the subways and we'd writers take it and sell it and wrote anything we could to rob bro taxi you taxis would hop in taxis take a dollar taxi we'd have a whole little plan where i would he would get out he would be acting like he's drunk throwing up and i'd be like okay i'll stop the car and then we'd run like you know what i'm saying like anything we could go into restaurants eating leaving it was just a regular thing we just didn't pay for things i mean i was reckless to the point i'd go by the bar and when the bartender was looking take a bottle and then put it behind my back go to the bathroom and drink it was like it was it was a spirit and i didn't know back then but it was something on me man and um at that point a lot of things happened with my life like i said my best friend who i went up there we got into a beef we left we split up i was depressed bro and i realized that there was something going on in my life that wasn't right um so i decided you know i'm gonna i'm gonna join the military i had been arrested in orlando for uh disorderly intoxication and resisting arrest with on with violence with these at a club when i was drunk but i figured let me try it out so i went to um this recruiting station in florida and the recruiter was like look man i'm gonna try everything i can to get you in you know you're on drugs i'm like i'm smoking weed and drinking and all this stuff he was like you gotta stop and i didn't stop i figured you know i'm not going to get in i took the ass valve i got a pretty good score um and this guy got me in bro barely bro and to this to this day i still believe it was a miracle it was only god bro because um even when i got to boot camp they the people the the admin the people that were processing my paperwork they pulled me to the side and they they asked me how did you get in you're not you weren't supposed to get in because i've been arrested because i had the tattoos i had over 20 speeding tickets from florida i was i was reckless bro my you know i'm saying so i that guy got me in bro i wasn't supposed to get into the military i actually strayed away from him after i passed the asvab he was like yo you got to take this program for the next five months and just come every week and just check in i never checked in never took the little practice test never did anything i actually told him i don't want to join and he kept blowing my phone up he showed up at my house a week before my apartment in the heights a week before i was supposed to step out and just pulled up bro and i lived in the hood and 191st and broadway and you know he pulled up and was like look man you need to go i'm like bro you know you're getting paid for this while you're doing this she's like bro i just know that you i i just know you gotta go bro and he took my apartment that i was living in took the lease he paid he bought my tv for me i mean this man like i never forget that man bro he took care of everything for me and i went to the military and that changed my life bro when i joined the military i didn't know what i was going to do when i got in bro it really i thought it was stopping it didn't so when i got in the military it just it continued but now i had more of a stable income you know like a salary but i still was doing things on the side and that's when i started this i decided hey i'm going to take this drug dealing to a different level now in my head i was like you know i'm in the military it's a good cover-up don't never expect it my boys that i know from my hood they trust me they know who i am i've already got my street credit from when i was back they know i'm not a snitch i've been through situations where i could have snitched when i didn't so i was like and my boys know i'm crazy so let me just let's do it so i started on i went to cali man i took a trip to cali and i went to um my first trip with san diego i got a plug i don't tell people i never told someone this a lot of people this man but i found my first plug listen i found my first plug on craigslist bro my first plug on i was reckless bro i was like i'm gonna i'm gonna this is back in 2015. i was like now i'm gonna you know on craigslist it was it was because craigslist was big back then i found my first plug i was sketched out but i was like let me try it out and bro it would he came through he was a legit plug and i was getting a lot of weight i would that's the first time i tried i used the mail i was like you know i when i read it because all my boys bro it was they were localhood stuff you know they they got they got their weight from the plug so i knew all my boys would wait if i could find i could get the grower if i could get the plug i could just i could cancel out all the plugs and be the one that comes in and distribute i don't got to do nothing so that's what i did man i found him and then it just it wasn't enough so i decided to take a trip to humboldt humboldt california for those i don't know it's the marijuana capital of the um of the us arguably the world um and i went up there it's um it's in the mountains and i just went with um fifty thousand dollars bro and um no plug with my gun and i went straight to the mountains with no service bro if y'all don't if y'all go on netflix look up a a documentary or a series called murder mountain it's on netflix that's pretty much that's where i went this place called elder point i went deep into the mountains bro i just i just asked a bunch of people in cali as time went by after a year or two and i had different plugs like i said off that guy i got another one off my girl i was dating in la and they just weren't cutting it i was making money i plugged up my boys i was making money but i wanted more so i went to the mountains man and when i went to the mountains i i had these asians the asian mafia the wasps the the la os the laos the louisians and um i mean i was terrified bruh but i just went out there with no fear i just took out my money and i remember like people passing me by and the little trucks and they're just like what's like this guy's crazy but one family stopped there was a man and a woman and their kids and they stopped and they brought me to their um their grow operation so i went up to the grow ops and they sat me down in a chair and they asked me they pretty much said i was crazy they're like you're crazy what are you doing i was like man i just i just feel like i had faith bro i was like i'm good i need a plug and that was the first time bro i got i got the real deal plugged and i mean i was getting pounds a week for like 300 bro i was getting pounds for like two three hundred i was getting some like old weed for like like 50 to 100 bucks that was still gas i was able to sell it for fifteen hundred to two thousand dollars a p so i mean do the math um and that's when everything changed bro that's when i flipped that 50 into 150 and it kept going and um a lot of people around me started getting jealous you know because i was because i trust i trusted people too much um and i would tell people i was close to like look man i got a plug bro and i actually was telling people my own brother my own family my prices which i shouldn't have done you know but you know it is what it is i'm trying to clutch you out and i cuz i figured you know that they ain't no one's going to the mountains they ain't got the balls to do it i even told them where i went i was like over like but no one had the balls to do it so i figured i was straight but what they did is they started scheming and plotting on me so they kept moving away i was making money out i had bought properties i had a white and a black benz um c300 i was flexing i got my auction license and kylie at this point i had moved i was living in california i was actually stationed in coronado i got out of the military i got i got out of the military and i was just i was just moving weight man and i was flipping cars literally i had six or seven cars i would i would keep the weight in the car so they went in my house because i was paranoid all the time i had vacuums i had a 500 vacuum sealer shielded seal brand y'all don't know the blacks the black black bags and i knew how to finesse in the mail so i know how to triple vacuum seal it wipe it down with alcohol i knew how to put it in the boxes i knew how i had people that i was that worked for usps in san ysidro close to the border of tijuana i knew how to get it and i was going to tijuana by the way and i had a connect to get uh to get coke and to get mid um and i was actually moving cartridges out there it was crazy bro and i went to i went to medellin with these people that i was messing with and um that's when it all started bro i went to medellin colombia came back and there was something sketchy about medellin with those people um they were they were moving wait for me and a few of them had some grow operations at indoor and in denver i went out to denver to check it out i bought a 30 pack of some gorilla glue and i'll never forget but everything changed after that because they i sent it in the mail from colorado to my people and it went it didn't make it it was over thirty thousand dollars with the products this is where everything starts and there was something uh in me i just knew and it actually was in july bro it's crazy it was on fourth of july and i remember thinking you know it's fourth of july why the package didn't make it's gonna make it two weeks go by three weeks and i was like man there's something off and i'm talking to my people like bro what did like you know i sent it myself but there was something sketchy going on but i could feel it in this i could feel it i just knew because you know my phone was acting funny one of my burner phones i had an iphone i knew it was it was it might have been hacked and the people were asking me like my boys were asking me too many questions they were acting real weird so that's when i was dating a girl at the time i'm a haitian girl and um i was like you look man like i know you told me before you you know your cousin's a voodoo priest i know you don't mess with that but can he figure out who took my package if it's taken by anybody and that's when she was like i don't mess with it i don't do it i've done it but i i can ask him and she calls him and he only speaks krill and that's when he was you know in korea he told her you know you got to come to haiti you got to come to haiti and you guys if you want to find out and um she thought i was going to be like nah you know i'm not going to haiti but that's you know i was i was reckless so that's when i was like let's go let's go to haiti i'll buy the ticket she thought i was crazy bro she was like she didn't want to go and i i convinced her you ended up going that was the first time i'd done anything spiritual i had done lsd in the past and i had a spiritual experience where i talked to trees and talked to rocks and um and actually what had what i saw on lsd actually ended up happening later on it was like a prophetic experience i'll talk about that later it's crazy it was crazy but um when i went to uh haiti that's when everything changed bro um i saw a ritual done in front of me it was a legit uh what they call it before which is a blue priest and i seen like the cards and the the ritual and the spirit entering them and possessing them and they call it an ancestral spirit and um the the the little goat they didn't sacrifice it but they made the goat read the paper they they write me you know they write down some things they did they put like a cross on me with some florida water and burn like you see it burn up they're made to go do what they made the goat read a piece of paper so that he told me the voodoo priest with the spirit and them said write down on a piece of paper what you want so i wrote i want my business to be protected i want to find out who stole my package and that's all i pretty much wrote i didn't i didn't want to kill nobody i didn't want nothing and the goat he told the goat to read it and you should go go up to the paper and start making man man like noises like i brought that even back then when i didn't believe i was like okay you're weird this down like i'm still trying to figure out what the heck they did i don't care i just now in the name of jesus just buying and repeating that type of stuff but i was like man this is crazy and he told me the spirit told me like i'm not gonna tell you but when you get back they're gonna tell them themselves and i was like bro i wasted my money i wasted my time wow i was pissed bro the girl was dating i'm like man you just trying to rob me you're man that's stupid um we went back bro and then things started happening literally people started snatching on themselves bro and there's people closest to me and i'm not going to name any names or people because i still want to bring them to christ but um i mean like like just imagine imagine being on the phone with your boy like yo you know what's up yeah you know i'm still worried you know about that back and then all of a sudden like yeah that's why you know we took it because you know what i'm saying they'll say it and be like and hang up quick i'm like what am i calling that calling back no answer no answer no answer i'm like bro what yeah and it really that's when things started happening i started feeling oppression i was like i need to know the truth of this like if this is real then there must be a god and there must be something that that's real like there must be a you know something spiritual so i started going to mediums the first the first person i went to actually was another uber priest in l.a and he told me like a whole bunch of stuff about my life which is on which was true and then but like he said they always say you got you know money two thousand three thousand i was like i can't pay that bro i'll let me go to the next one i go to this medium he tells you the same yeah right like i'm like bro come up with a cheap one but like they're they you know they tell you you gotta get this this chalice in this tabernacle and we gotta go bury it and we gotta do a ritual over and all this stuff i'm like bro it didn't feel right like why do we gotta do all that why can't you just tell me you know what's going on and like you know just it i didn't feel love you know what i'm saying i felt evil bro like i knew there was something off because they wanted they always wanted this and they didn't the way they would look they would look at me it would always be weird bro like it would be like they look off like it didn't it wasn't like a connection of like i don't know how to explain it it wasn't it was weird bro so that the medium i went to an indian medium um this homosexual indian medium uh he was like bro he was just angry at me bro like as soon as i walked in just angry i had no idea why i even asked him like bro like do you not like me bro he was just like like you know like he was the spirit was telling he said it was his grandma who had or his grandpa who had passed away that on that four years old he had a he had an encounter with and and he was telling me things and things were on point they were some things were a little off but things were on point and i was like man so what's up man like what do i you know he would just be like you know you gotta just keep going and like he didn't want to tell me nothing like really like to like to do it was more like pay more money they want you to keep coming back yeah keep coming back yeah and i was like all right next one so i go to a few sidekicks they tell me some things next one i go to um i go to uh another what was it another voodoo priest there was a mambo as a woman voodoo priest and she tells me some stuff i start going on the psychic hot lines i'm like but i'm desperate i'm trying to because the people who who snitched on themselves bro it hurt me so much i didn't want to believe it so like but then so then i got people in the drug dealing room like all my homeboys they're like they're deading me they're like going ghost on me they're just like acting weird and then i told one of them what i did i went to haiti then you know he starts threat like he starts saying man why'd you have to do that like it was more like a threat like he had to go to his aunt who does voodoo santeria and like it was like bro we could me and my girl at the time could feel the oppression because she ends up getting pregnant with my first child so i'm like bro this girl's pregnant i'm over here trying to figure out the truth and she's going through it she don't want nothing to do with this was like i didn't want to go to haiti in the first place she's all overwhelmed i'm like bro you know i need to figure out the truth with everything like what's going on so we leave cali we go to we move to west palm beach to be closer to family and while we're in west palm beau i'm still going i'm still trying to figure it out at this point i'm studying voodoo i'm studying it very deeply i'm learning more about it and i know more about it than our family bro i knew more about it than most haitians like i was learning it like what it was and then that's when i said i'm going to new orleans so i took a trip to new orleans to new orleans bro and i went out there and i went to like um i actually asked the people around you know i wanted to go to a voodoo priest or santero i wanted to go to the the um the most um legit one and i went to this guy uh this puerto rican guy man he was a huda priest and a santero like he was like a dual you know a warlock and he uh he was bro i'm tired i'll be real though a lot of things he said were on point a lot of things he said but it was just like bro you could see it like it was like it was something off he wanted to do a whole bath and everything and bro it was crazy while i was in that shop beyonce's sister solange yeah walked in bro i'll never forget that and i'm like bro that's beyonce sisters so i'm like my head i'm like what the heck is going on because i'm already feeling depression bro i'm going i'm getting pulled by different things and then like this guy is telling me you need to be a buddha priest that's your destiny like your your ancestral bloodline you are destined to be a a warlock like a voodoo priest so he was they were they were planning a trip to go to haiti and puerto rico to get dual inducted in like i believed this bro and like they were they were telling me a lot of things about my family my bloodline that i was like a little it was some of it was off bro that you could i realized that they would tell you 90 percent of truth like what you might hear but then there'd be this 10 where it would be like man like this just enough information to like to be able to trick you i guess yeah finessey yeah yeah they wanted like and i could feel it like i just knew bro and they were there that's almost like it's interesting because that's like almost the same energy you're operating in in the drug realm and that's how you was able to identify it because you know your friends who would tell you what you needed to hear not the truth they were trying to like like kind of like kite you up a little bit uh with half truths and little pieces of it but not tell you the whole truth kind of like the same energy you was able to you was able to recognize yeah yeah facts wow yeah that is true bro that is true exactly the same so i have all these people around that are operating in that same you know that same 90 like that that tell me what i need to hear but then leave out the truth bro and i felt i was just feeling i was feeling oppression bro like i was like i mean i need i kept now well i'm going through all this i'm praying still tied to higher power higher power i need to know who you are all i kept hearing bro and i'll never forget this keep going keep going keep going that's all i kept hearing keep and i'm like all right next one islam i walked into a muslim mosque i went straight up to the to the head guy and i was like look i need to know like what's up with islam like i want to read the quran um i've been doing um you know this witchcraft stuff you know like food and all that can you help me and bro with the minute i said that they got real standoffish they were like nah we don't do that it's only is i like all this stuff and i was like man like where's the love bruh and they were really really like they were they were um intimidated by it so i was like man this can't be i read the quran i read the kron for the most part and not all of it but i read a lot of it and it never made sense to me because they believed in jesus they believed that he was this messiah that i mean on the side they believed that he was um a prophet who came who walked on water i mean who did all these miracles who literally rose to heaven in the flesh but they don't believe you know that that he that died on the cross was again the third day all that stuff so i was like man i was raised catholic so i was like this is just another false religion just like catholicism like it ain't jesus bro so i kept going and going i started buddhism i had studied some buddhism but there's so many different sex of buddhism that i was like well with it like okay i am god like okay so what's the answer then bro like who's god like okay i'm not i obviously i'm not a god i don't i mean now i know you know you don't say like i'm not god i'm not him i didn't create the earth i didn't create the water the heavens and i don't know what's going on but my life so how am i i was alright this can't be it so i just kept studying bro i kept studying so i just kept going and i was really going in detail about the girl i was dating with was so like soul like just going through it bro press just hurt bruh i had all these bra i had all these chains all right you know the santa beads around me evil eyes i had the braces i had the statues of all of my room i had um i had been praying to these false gods bro i had been doing the baths with the herbs i mean i was deep i was dedicated i mean i was going around my house with sage putting salt in the corners i was um doing all types of stuff bro i was deep into this stuff and um i i met a shaman in a crystal shop so when i met a shaman from brazil in the crystal shop um he pulled me in and we uh it was just so coincidental bro but you know nothing's coincidence and this guy is like a worldwide known shaman from brazil and um i mean he's been to germany all over bruh and um he had a whole like a shot for a week i studied um chakra balancing i was i was um chilling with him and i was actually getting close to him but i was you know after after class i would go eat with him i wanted to know and you know he talked to me about syrian and cherokee spirits and palladium beings palladium beings that was the first time i was actually talking to daniel bosses yesterday people didn't know about the um palladium beings like um where they come from palladius like that that whole belief do you know about that palladium beings how they come from like like they believe they come from a different planet and you channel them and they actually they're they're they're they're their god like their higher power is like he looks just like jesus i forgot the name of um the god man i need to look it up but it looks just like jesus and um i was just learning a lot bro it was a lot of shamanism like i said and i was seeing how people were coming for healing and stuff and it was crazy bro like i actually was like man this is it like i was like man that's gotta be it like you know and i kept hearing keep going keep going and i was watching a youtube video bro i'll never forget this i tried to balance chakras over my my girl who's pregnant the crystal literally falls off and breaks in half on the ground so i'm like okay this this was so super at that point i didn't even know about like what was going on i just thought man that this might be a sign let me go on youtube and i was scrolling through youtube and i saw casting demons out in jesus name this guy named um torben from the the last reformation and he uh and i saw the video and it was actually someone who uh uh rachel who got delivered and came to christ and i was watching the whole documentary and i'm like bro this is crazy you can heal people in jesus name you can cast out demons i was like no freaking way so i went on his map and i found a lady and um she was like a little white lady man and she just called me and she was a bold spiritual warfare man just this deliverance minister bro and she was behind and reviewed on the phone i was feeling stuff that's when i started seeing spirits running literally the spirits running like when i'm like okay this this is crazy i'm feeling peace but i was like i'm not even sure still am i i opened up the bible for the first time i opened up the bible at two o'clock in the afternoon you know i'm sitting by this lake in my neighborhood this guy walks by me and sits down with me for three hours and he's a bible study teacher so i was like that's coincidence the new barber i go to that i get recommended to he's a christian he's preaching the gospel to me without me even asking him anything that same week i'm like okay that's coincidence i go to this liquor store i'm trying to team up with this liquor store to open a wine bar on these indians and i'm in there just doing business with the lady just talking at the front and this guy walks in and just says man you have a light on you bro and he's like i just got born again two weeks ago i just i just feel like i need to talk to you he's like please come to my house it was halloween this guy's a multi-millionaire bro like a multi-millionaire real estate guru invites me with my my girl the time to the house we go there he's like look i was born again bro i just feel like i have to talk to you you need to come to my church and i'm just like that's another coincidence why is this guy pulling why like why is he telling me to come to this church why is he being so nice i thought he was a swinger bro like my girl i was like brother too nice bro this is weird as even his wife was like you know come like just and i'm like cool so we go to this church but i see the barber on the stage playing the music he's there with me in the in um next to me you know you're a barber bar too they don't even know each other that's funny and i'm like bro and it's like two different areas of west palm i'm like bro this is crazy they're playing reckless love i just felt boom i felt the holy spirit i fell to my knees crying bruh and i'm like what is this i was crying profusely i couldn't stop and i felt relief and he's like laying hands on me the pastor there's like 4 500 people comes up to me and everyone just lays hands on me praying for me i'm like bro this is crazy that's why i go by rich 99 because he left the 99 for the one so that that song reckless love so that's why um i promised god i was like i always my testimony my name goes with my testimony so i could always you know let people know what happened so that was the first time i felt the presence of god that's when i was like all right this might be weird i need deliverance that church did not do deliverance so i went to the pastor like you guys cast out demons you know he's like look we don't do that here we're not against it we don't this is a family church you need to you know you need to go find another church yeah bro like am i tripping like i'm still like trying to figure things out so i found that lady went to her like the the lady i was talking about on tour business map we go to um all the way to broward fort lauderdale actually went from we go to her church and she prayed delivered and sold me but i remember spitting up like i was spitting up i was coughing up i felt relief that same day somebody comes from bethel a guest speaker who prays for healing my freaking stomach gets healed my why the girl's like the girl with her back gets healed i'm like okay this is crazy i gotta find a legit deliverance minister and i found this guy from indica ministries pastor mark in fort lauderdale and he's a legit like demon slayer bro like you know he does deliverance he's it's literally a deliverance church that's all they do yeah so i went there um um you know each other he charged for deliverance which i don't think is wrong bro like you know it is like it's he gets free deliverance for group settings but if you want one-on-one you got to play i was like well i want that one-on-one bro because i and i said it was crazy because i was doubting it i mean you're paying all of these you know which is like shaman's like thousands of dollars and this dude wants a hundred bucks just so he can eat it's all the same bro i had no problem with it i was like it's cheap compared to what i was paying but i was like let me go to the group setting first i go with my girl bro he go calls her out and says you have a tattoo of a ganesh on your back and like bro she literally starts bawling she gets up she's pregnant with my child it was true he says your father you can't forgive your father which was true because her father had molested her when she was young so it was like bro and at this point i was so deceived i was like she talked to him i literally thought that she had called them i was so gone bro i was like telling her after i was laughing during her deliverance like this is so fake it's just so hot i was laughing and afterwards your mind was still caught up for sure go home bro now even though you were seeking this stuff were you a christian at that point not yet i still did i still was doubting it bro i was like i can't i can't i can't i felt the presence of god i felt the peace but i was like i need to know for sure so what i um after that that um that group setting when she afterwards when i was going out here like man you lying you called him you had to call him she was so much in peace she was like rich i don't care no more believe what you want to believe i know what happened i believe in jesus and i was like man i gotta get that one-on-one so i go and i get the one-on-one broken but the spirit manifested in and told and like i remember the spirit speaking through me the demon and telling him like i'm gonna take care of him in hell it was a luciferian spirit saying i'm gonna take care of him when he's in hell he's my son and i just remember like feeling the oppression and as soon as he said get out get out in jesus name i started coughing up coughing up it was like uncontrollable when i looked in the garbage can and there was blood bruh and i was like yo like this is crazy i still had some doubt but when i went home that night i slept like a baby bro i never sleep like that in my life i woke up the next day like it's jesus that's when i started getting real so everything in the house i was like we gotta go burn it so we had got everything up all the statues all the bracelets everything we went to the woods burnt all that stuff because you know like in the book of acts how they say all the people they brought all the stuff to the you know the town all the sorcerers and they burned everything up it was a lot of bro it was worth a lot of money bro a lot we brought everything up i had vacuum sealers and some weed left and all this stuff we burnt it all up i was like i'm done bro because the lady and the lady told them told me look you're living in fornication you need to get married you guys need to separate so i was like i'm gonna sleep in separate rooms and the girl was dating she was like what like you're gonna sleep in a separate room seven months pregnant no like and i'm like we gotta do it and i remember just i'm like i gotta do it and that same night that was i got delivered from pornography bro wow and like addiction well like so at the service or when or at home at home yeah after that because you took that step of faith to just that you said yeah we're gonna even sleep in separate beds yeah bro that seemed like she had she had a dream where a spirit came looking like me it was two demons one of them shape-shifted into image of me and tried to have sex with her and i remember her screaming like rich and i came to the room she was shaking like i just saw a spirit it looked like you tried to have sex with me i was like wow all i knew was i rebuked you in jesus name so we just i started screaming it around the room the house the apartment i mean and that night i remember just going to sleep bro and i felt the most overwhelming feeling to watch porn and i was i've been addicted to porn since i was like 12 bro my whole life i was addicted to sex i had traveled the world for all the money i was making and being in the military trial i've been to london barcelona paris i lived in greece for a year i was stationed i lived everywhere but i had all the women i and i was addicted to it bro i was addicted to sex that was the first night i was like nah i'm not doing it and i saw two spirits near my bed these two shadows and i remember shaking and i couldn't i was just like i'm holding it i'm not doing it and i remember feeling the most overwhelming feeling like i hear the voices saying just watch it just watch i was like no i said jesus boom and i knocked out the next morning i woke up delivered bruh delivered no more urges had no more feeling in my stomach like oh i need to watch porn or oh i need to have you know i have sexual cheat like i was i was a woman i was living i had a woman for days i would have i would have five girls at a time one on monday tuesday wednesday i would always have a girl lined up every day bro that was my life since i was young since i was like you know so that's 17 16. so this is the first time i was like yo i'm done and i looked at the woman i was with man i just had to make a decision because at that point i thought her family did voodoo on me i thought she was using me but she wasn't bro she was innocent bro like but i was like i had to make a decision i remember praying to god for jesus and i said god if this is you if i mean if this is real if she's supposed to be for me let me know if i'm supposed to marry her and he just said you have faith in me and i was like yeah then go and i just said god all right well i go to this courthouse if i'm not supposed to marry her let me get into an accident let something happen to where i don't go you know what i'm saying i was just like i just i loved her but i wasn't sure and bro we went on her lunch break i went to the courthouse we got married bro i was in basketball shorts and a t-shirt bro on her lunch break at work we got married bro we broke all those curses we prayed over generational curses that's when we started learning about deliverance we started getting deep into it reading books on it i thought i was obsessed with the word of god i got baptized by that woman of god bro she took us to l.a fitness bro hot tub food i didn't care because the church i was going to bro they were like you got baptized in a hot tub in the pool straight in hot tub but the church i was going to bro like they just they didn't um they didn't they didn't they wanted me to take a course which i'm not a guest but like you know it is like if they want to do that but like they were like you gotta wait coronavirus just hit it once you get a member of the church you're like trying to be a member versus like getting born again kind of thing exactly bro they were like you need to become a member and before you and i was like i need to get married they were like well if you want to get married you need to get baptized that's why i said i'm going to the courthouse knocked it out went to her got baptized did everything we ended up leaving that church and going to a house church part of the last reformation with torment they were filled with the holy ghost they were praying for healing that's why i spoken i actually spoke in tongues before i got born again bro i didn't know what charles was because i remember being in my room one day i was a shot dedicated i was speaking in the language because it felt good but i didn't know what it was but then when i actually received jesus and i learned what tongues was i was like i've been doing this so it was when they were like speaking songs i was like it was easy for me so i started speaking songs but um my wife she my wife hadn't spoken tongues so she eventually she did she got baptized in the holy ghost and um bro i was obsessed with the word bro and i was saved december 1st 2019 bro so i'm newly born again so i was obsessed with the word of god bro i was obsessed i just couldn't stop reading it i realized i watched youtube videos i was like just like i need to learn everything i was every time i had doubt i was like well i doubt this i was like i'm gonna look it up and i was just studying study and study and study i wouldn't sleep um i had my child he was born born healthy bro i remember all the psychics and um medium saying that the you know that he might he might not be born and the girl you're dating might die during the pregnancy and all this stuff he was born healthy she was born healthy bro i mean she had had a healthy delivery um and everything bro and bro we just i just got obsessed with the word she was recovering from the c-section i was taking care of her i was i got out the drug game completely i cut off all of them bro i was like look it is what it is like y'all did i was like y'all did what you did it doesn't matter to me you know what i'm saying like i cut everybody off everyone thought i went crazy because i came to jesus i was on fire posting things on facebook i was i was a little religious back then man because i was you know newly born again i was with that that you know that movement which is you know it it it ain't the operation that i'm really in right now when it comes to the body of christ no different operations and administrations in the body of christ you know they do kickstart a lot of people they they help a lot of people and they teach them healing and deliverance but i was just like i thought that that's what you know forget the building it's not about bring down the buildings they're all really we're all demons like i'm it's the streets like you know i'm saying but i learned a lot bro i learned like how to pray for healing it was natural to me deliverance i learned quick we were casting out demons within four months of being saved like a lot of deliverances bro and yeah bro that's that and i met daniel um uh december last year bro it was a lot of people tried to actually keep me away from him yeah that's what i was going to say i i remember like watching y'all's first interview and there seemed like there was some contention in the past that you guys were kind of getting over was it like you were just coming at all the preachers and buildings in different different ways it was these people man that i was part of did this um they were they're covering and um they're when the man's prophetic and i'm not gonna say the names you know i'm not gonna name anybody but they uh they just wanted me to stay away from danny i never knew why because i actually wanted to go to one of his services like i was like man he looks like a man of god you know he's a man of god he's anointed but you should stay away because you know he's religious because he you know he's wearing these button downs you see it in his videos he's part of a church and i'm like bro what even back then i could hear the holy spirit saying you need to go there's one time where the holy spirit literally told me you need to go and as i'm walking i was in their house this this on this couple and i remember i was my family hold on hold on be careful what you say because he's listening he's in chat be careful i'm joking yo what up daniel hey god bless you man yeah so like i was in their house and i was staying there being my family overnight and um i remember just like i'm gonna go to the service because there's a brother we have named danny junior big you seen him in the videos big big puerto rican dude i always watched the kingdom music shirts he was always always he was always pulling me and like bro come to the church bro you and daniel will get along y'all are similar kong come and i'm like bro i want to meet this dude he seems anointed bro and um he told me you'll come tonight service is saturday and i remember the holy spirit saying go and don't say nothing just go and i walk in i told my wife we gotta go we're not gonna say nothing and as i'm walking by i looked to my right and they were watching his service on the computer and i'm like oh shoot and i go in there and i'm like my dumb stuff i'm going to the service to vote to go see him right now and they're like no no no don't go we're just watching you know he's a man of god and you know this and that but you know just don't go because this and that and they were saying all these things bro and i'm like man i didn't go but event but you know how god works right there's any door he opens no man can shut breath so eventually it just it was inevitable like me and that the my family that couple we ended up having a falling out because they just gossiped a lot about about a lot of people bro and it was just but it was like it was it was demonic it was wrong but you know that that's a man and woman of god god they just stay you know and i pray for them and they they need and i'm pretty sure that they've learned they've learned everyone grows and um but i just said i'm going to church bro so i pulled my whole ministry out of ministry at the time um i said we're all going we pulled up deep bro we were like 15 d we pulled up to this church and we all sat there man i remember feeling the presence of god we went to the altar we felt it i was like bro this is real bro and then junior danny the guy was like look you know daniel's really blunt bro so you know we're gonna go eat dinner you know after the service just know he's blunt don't take offense and you know we chilled with him and he was blunt bro that's when i met isaias um isaiah's was new there too um i met i think ariana was there too i'm not sure and that's when i met all of them bro and daniel wasn't um he's anointed the same as he is now i mean he's no different but he had no following i'm pretty sure you know him back then too i mean he had like less than a thousand people on youtube and he was just like you know he was chilling bro like service with the church wasn't packed it was like maybe 20 20 people max and you bought 15 of them he'll tell you bro they'll tell you like that that's how it was that's how it went and bro like i remember the second time i went i just sat there and i saw a quick vision of the church being packed and then on that i went home and the lord told me he was gonna hit like 97k on youtube i didn't know why i was like i told him and i was like bro i don't know if i'm crazy bruh and at that point he had just started moving a little bit and bro i mean he's almost almost at 90 now i told him 97k by august and this was like in this january bro and it's happening and he you know you you know he's blowing up bro i had dreams but i was living in west palm i had a very vivid dream i thought i was going to dallas texas i have a lot of brothers out there with the christian hip-hop you know like um with the holy ground and you know and all the boys and i was like man we're going to dallas i told my family we're going to die this because that's where everyone's at and i love it out there we had been traveling but i had a vivid dream bro i know daniel was in it and it was oh bro it was so so vivid i don't even have vivid dreams like that and um basically it was god telling me you need to go i was being chased by demons bro straight up i was in a car i was speeding i was like a crackhead and i was being chased by demons there was somebody i knew in the dream okay so i i'll explain the dream we got time that's the dream though right being chased yeah i was being chased by the police by the police bro it was police i was literally being chased by police in the car and i was right i was uh driving away and i was in the form of somebody i know who does a lot of drugs and they're like really rebellious and um i was telling the myself in the dream like slow down they gotta pull over and i was just like nope and i just kept going and i remember just being taken out of the car i was running from the police i took a baby i was a white baby bro never forget this was a white beautiful baby a male baby i took the baby and i put it in this place and i put it somewhere i just knew it was safe it looked like a subway station in new york city i put it somewhere very safe and i knew that i was gonna come back to it later and i kept running and i got boom taken up to heaven bro taken up to heaven and i was looking over the garden of eden and i see like jesus was next to me just speaking i don't remember what he said but my mouth i was it was i was so in all that i was like and i was watching the garden like yo this is crazy and then i went back down and i went back into um being chased by the police i'm running and i just went it transitioned to a scene where i was watching myself running into daniel's church and daniel was holding the door open he was like come in come in with all the other people around them i couldn't see the people but i saw daniel from the back his little man bun the little blonde man bun that he cut off and i just and i ran in bro and um i came out i saw myself come out when i came out i had glasses on a button down i looked on point i had gained weight i wasn't a crackhead no more i looked like i was like healthy you know what i'm saying that and then i woke up and the lord told me you need to go to orlando that's where you're going to move and you're going to be part of his church and um and yeah that's what i did bro and ever since i did that like the ministry i had it was it wasn't ordained by god i had two i had a music ministry but i also had a like a church ministry online kind of like what daniel was doing now but it wasn't organized at all like i was just doing it i was doing bible studies every day and it was good though i still the people that were part of it they still learned deliverance they learned healing but bro me my wife were like overwhelmed it wasn't organized we were babies in the faith we had no accountability we hadn't been like i had no mentor bro because every church i went to i was um i was operating in deliverance and healing and most of the time the pastor would be like they weren't operating in that so they would look at me like you need to sit down like you know like chill out with that so like i didn't have anybody that was anointed i had that gift those gifts so i'm going to dance church i was like what you cast out demons like i was actually skeptical at first like did he just start casting casting out demons because he was humble about it like it was normal but then i figured out like later on or he been doing it you know what i'm saying like for a while so he taught me a lot bro when i went to that church i put down that ministry i picked up the baby for the it was the music ministry that god was showing me he said i never ordained that other ministry it was the music ministry that i ordained and that's when i started doing um taking a serious bro um even with the copyrights and everything i wasn't even taking another i was just making music and putting it out i finished an ep in a week and just dropped it like i was like i don't care like a guy's gonna my thought process was god just take over who you're gonna do it anyways you know what i'm saying but that's not how god is he's gotta order he's gotta order an organization he wants to take things serious so yeah when i went to daniel's church bro i put down the other ministry i started focusing on tsnl um bro we went a hard roll um when he would travel i'll be able to take over the church and and preach um that we were still operating in the power of the holy spirit people are still getting delivered and healed and you know and he when he would come he would work together you know what i'm saying and it was just it was just you could tell it was ordained by god you know what i'm saying it was unquestionable because he had dog he had to pray about it too and sit there and be like yo this kid's only you know a year in some months saved can i trust him yeah you know you know what i'm saying because he has people that have probably been there longer men and women of god but he couldn't even trust them so to trust me it was like he brought his straight holy spirit that he had to be led by the holy spirit for that so like for me it showed me like wow like this man you know he really really does listen to god not to me not to man but to god so you know it helped me with preaching so i learned how to preach in front of a crowd i learned about the church structure i learned about a lot bro and did with deliverance and healing he showed me a whole different level my prophecy like um i was i was prophetic but i wasn't to where i needed to be he helped me with my prophetic um the lord used them for a lot bro a lot and um and then there's a lot of people that you know persecuted me and him like me for being with him and him for being with me you know people like that hate on us because they you know it is what it is and um yeah that's because it ain't us facts bro so that's pretty much where i'm at now and um you know i'm leaving a local hub down here in orlando vandal hub and we're gonna get it popping out here i'm gonna do sunday services in the streets now and uh we're gonna be doing evangelizing in the streets and i know a lot of people are gonna show up we're gonna make it real um trendy and just appealing appealing for people to start coming again and it's the same thing we were doing in the church bro it's going to be in the streets and i guarantee you it's going to expand more than it ever has been and it's going to give him the um opportunity to travel now man because he's apostolic bro he's been doing this for a while he's on well verse in the bible he knows about revivalists and all that stuff you know a lot more than than a lot of us but you know what i'm saying so i just i'm like yeah bro like this is a freaking opportunity from god bro you know what i'm saying like how could i turn this down it's it's it's amazing bro what god does bro i never thought i'd be here bro you know what i'm saying that's awesome dude um man our stories are so similar bro like uh even the little details about like getting bored again and then having sleep in in separate beds and all that and then when you finally do that like a deeper uh deliverance happens even while you sleep and you say yes to that uh because there's reasons to rationalize it well we've been together for years and now we have to sleep in separate beds like that's weird when they tell you that because it's so normal you were together in the world and now you're together in christ and then they're like yeah you guys should probably sleep in separate beds we're living together and i remember having to do that i remember even trying to like go find a different place to live like and i knew i knew my girl was the one for me but i was like calling halfway houses and stuff just like and i was like uh they would say yeah you can only come here if you have a drug addiction i was like well i used to you know try to find reasons go find somewhere to stay it's just so because we were going to get married but you know we wanted to honor the lord and do everything we could for you know that that was uh biblical and righteous and stuff and i remember when just like you said when you finally said yes and i slept on the couch i was sleeping on the couch and i remember i got attacked dude like sleeping on the couch coming out of witchcraft you know all that stuff i'm on the couch i'm a christian and uh i remember sleeping and feeling a spirit stick it this is what it felt like stick its hand in my forehead and grab my brain and when it did i'm just limp doing this like doing the mullet in my in my sleep gasping for breath and finally i remember waking up and just saying i put on the full armor of god the helmet of salvation the blood splatter right and i'm just quoting that and screaming in jesus name and then like being attacked in your sleep man when you finally take that step and they're like okay they're not playing like they're they're doing everything within their arsenal within their bag to not let you go and to try to scare you or get a couple shots in before they have to leave and so yeah not every demon has to come out through in jesus dame come out of him a lot of us like listen i'm done playing games and when you make that decision up and then you do an act of faith that that's partnered with that they they have no no ground you know when jesus talks about the spirits that leave and they they they only come back if they find a house not swept clean say listen i'm i'm doing everything within my understanding to do to live a righteous life and to get rid of every area of of doubt confusion uh any any foot for the for the enemy man and uh we we we uh we did all that stuff dude and then even you're talking about like getting into the house churches and stuff because like that maybe the churches weren't really big into deliverance and listen this is real for me like i just come out of fighting for my life you know and almost not making it out you know and you guys want to tell me like seven keys to financial freedom hold on like i'm trying to see how you you got kids in here whose mom and dad are on meth and crack and you know they need some hope they need to go back with power they need to receive power and go back to their families but you're telling me you know how to live a you know and all that stuff's good but where i was just coming out the gate just like you like we needed we needed to be fathered we need to be taught and discipled by prophet the spirit of the prophet is subject unto the prophet and so we need somebody who understood what we've seen and and it's few and far between you know um it's growing for sure you know people are being open about their stories and stuff but man so many similarities dude in our stories it's awesome like you said the father like the like the someone that could like um that could really mentor you and and and help you i didn't have that until daniel bro so like when you got a church a heart you said a family church you know you big church there's no way they can do it there's no way i gotta i gotta you know i ain't there's people they want a relationship with the pastor but you got you know 300 people or 100 people whatever that all want a relationship with the pastor you know and it's like ordaining other people and hey you know we got a team it's not just one guy we have a team now where we can meet your needs and we can disciple you and you want all want the quote-unquote man of god to to be your favorite you know what i'm saying not only that like like you said like there has to be multiple people men and women of god that are like they have the experience they have the um you know they have the ability to father and to mother man that's it's crazy everyone wants the the one that's famous on youtube like daniel right everyone everyone wants like bro after service bro he has to literally like take like like block him like let's go because everyone's like you know what i'm saying but it's like but there's there's so many other people that like forerunners that we have that like you know what i'm saying you could talk to them they have experience bro yeah yes you gotta call it god ordain the one who you want me to be fathered by that's what i did bro i like god you know because there's a lot of people when i was going through that before i found daniel i was against the church so people would go on facebook and slamming me bro like he doesn't have a spiritual covering did you ever put that in your music did you attack the church in your music too yeah i did bro i did i did it a lot yeah yeah i did this there's actually one song yeah yeah there is there actually is bro and the times are one of my songs i literally talk about that but hey i was gonna take it down but i was like man it's my it's my growth bro it's who i was bro and it's like now i know bro like one of the main people who helped me out with that was brian tebra like brian when i when i met him we did music i was like i was so against the church bro he was just like man you need accountability you need to be discipled you need to you need to find a you know a home church you know he's big on that like local church home church and i was like man i ain't trying to do that he was like come to my discipleship program man pastors from all over come and and it's good bro and i was like nah i can't do that bro i got a family and i was just he was still cool with me and he tried bro he tried to get me on his own calls and stuff like that and i was just so against it bro and i was like i'm doing my own thing i'm gonna i was living in rebellion bro it's like my dream being chased by like barely making it bro like these demons were close to getting bro like that's right even the cops is like you you almost see the cops as a form of like the like the religious pharisees in a sense like law and order we need to make sure you're doing all this stuff the right way and you're like no i'm just doing this how i feel led by the spirit man you know exactly we were traveling bro and we were going we actually were going to churches and helping churches with deliverance like look i'll teach you this we're going to teach you that and probably that but but the people around me that were in my ministry they were idolizing me like it was like they were they were like worse but not jesus you know what i'm saying like when i put down the ministry in a way where i said guys i love you guys so much i'm just gonna you know we can still do bible studies which we don't i don't really do i told them they could still join together and do bible studies they were just like nah some of them went back to the world some of them are like because they were they were just in it for me you know what i'm saying so it's like we got to point people to jesus it's like with daniel like when i want to ask him questions he's always like look you know go to jesus i i believe this but still go to jesus and that's that's how you're supposed to be bro that's why i love daniel man because like you know he's in a he's in a position where it can easily go to his head but he's taking offensive steps not to do it because he's seen it in other ministers and and a lot of people like they they like drink their own kool-aid yeah i am high and mighty i am the anointed man of god yes i need you to refer to me by these titles and i need this and that and you do there's a lot of people that have drank their own kool-aid man and and that's that's why i love you know how how daniel's like you know he's looking for pedestals that people try to put him on just so he can kick him out from under his feet you know what i'm saying and uh and that's you gotta honor that for sure i love the way he's vigilant about not letting anybody idolize him you know because pride comes before fall the the moment that you do that you're going to fall something's going to happen and and you know or the anointing leaves or whatever it is people learn how to there's things that you learn you learn how to cast demons out there's all kinds of things that happen but to truly be anointed and led by the spirit um that you have to guard that and daniel's daniel's regarding that man yeah definitely bro he's like he's not you know we chill with him like me isaac my little brother kevin like he's normal bro like he's not like you know he's not like look at me like you don't know like you know like he's just like chilling bro like he's like he's like a friend you know like a brother just regular bro like he's not he's not like all cocky like like no like you need to do this you know to do that do this you know and follow this and yeah it's different bro yeah we need we need more of that just showing normalcy in the church or in christianity and get in and less of the christian celebrity you know yes bro yes and you can give people people to take out what he's doing as pride because his um his following is growing but it's like that's not pride you know what i'm saying just because a lot of people are seeing it and just getting subscribed it doesn't mean he's prideful you know what i'm saying like you you can't know someone's prideful until you get to know them one-on-one bro like social media is like you can't you can't judge someone on social media all he's doing on the social media is casting out demons and dealing the sick that's all he's doing bro you're not getting to see the regular side of him like and that's the thing too like i've had to deal with that like people think you're more spiritual than you really are and i'll tell you straight up like i'm i'm obviously more spiritual on a podcast or a song or something or a facebook post like you don't get to see the real me when you meet me in person i'm telling jokes i'm trying to make everybody in the whole room laugh i make myself look silly just so you'll laugh laughter is a medicine that is spiritual now let's you know yeah you know and uh so yeah they don't they they put you on this pedestal that's not real and we've seen that with i guess like i would say tbn you know and that kind of culture of like these holy men of god and in the final you see you when you see them as a regular person it kills the magic i thought you were meditating i thought you still sought the lord for four hours every day oh i thought you only meditate and listen i'm a regular person and so we need to celebrate that you know what i'm saying yeah and uh and to let people know that god is not a respecter of persons man for sure that's real bro like people who come in i'm seeing them you know travel from all over and they think oh man once i just touch him i'm gonna my whole life is gonna change and i'm gonna be the holiest of them but it's like he just tells him like repent like you need to repent of your sins man like i can sit here and cast this demon out but you're not repenting you need to forgive and like what i came all the way from california to to to hear what god already told me that i need to forgive dang they said that you know what i'm saying yeah it's like it's that whole this the social media will make it look like oh they're they're jesus but they're not bro they're just they're annoyed by god they have the anointing yes to protect them like you said but yeah bro like even you bro like when we had that conversation on the phone like you're you're normal dog like when i was talking to you i was like man oh people yeah people are scared of me from like like i guess the persona or the people i interview and people they have this preconceived notion you know and they get scared it's like you know they treat they treat me like rude off the red nose man you know you remind me my cousin bro in texas like identical like remind me my cousin he was um he actually came to christ too recently when i did and let me just say this real quick people asking who daniel is uh it's his last name daniel adams with the supernatural life if you type that in on youtube you'll find his channel and all his videos he's a good friend of both of ours so make sure y'all check him out too big small white dude but yeah man um yeah bro like even you when you're talking on the phone like the numbers bro like i was talking today about that like people get real scared about that but you know scary but bro it's real bro like i see the numbers too much one one one one one one more oh yeah synchronicity yeah it's like synchronicity bro it's crazy like and you know god speaks to us through that stuff to let us know you know we're on the right path yeah like sure it was happening it was happening in your life you know when you met your barber you could have had any barber right but you met this guy and then you go to the church and that's just some kind of confirmation like hold on god is moving things around and he set god is setting me up for an encounter man to wreck my life by moving little things around but it definitely gets more intricate and it doesn't stop you know for the for the person who's on that highway of holiness you know what i'm saying walking with the lord i love it bro i love it even the signs like you'll be talking like thinking something i see a billboard that goes i tell my wife like you see that we were just talking and she'll start laughing like my little brother's like bro you always see the signs i'm like bro guys even before i got saved when i was going through all the witchcraft but it's demonic though on that side right you see it but it's like scary it's into the world it's like i'm gonna die like it's weird that synchronicity exists in the demonic as well yes bro it broke big time big time like it's like god that the devil takes what god does and perverts it that's all it is bro people don't people don't understand that like literally that like i was thinking about brian t right i was talking to um my little brother about that like his brother died who right is his twin brother and then he took off right and i was thinking i was talking about that i was talking to the ceo um poncho he was talking about like there's something about when someone gets martyred for the gospel right and i was like wow i was thinking about how they you know on the other side they sacrificed their family members for fame so i was like is there type of like did the devil pervert that like is there something like you know what i'm saying even with that i was like not to say that someone has to die for you to blow up or like you know what i'm saying but like is there some type of respect that god has like you know like a man of god a woman of god in your life that you're close with a brother a family member you know dies against martyr for the gospel and then the god honors that and you know that ministry that he's part of yeah you know what i'm saying like oh yeah for sure for sure there's definitely there's definitely a culture of honor in the spirit you know i i remember and i i remember seeing that we used to be street preachers too right we go downtown 10 10 30 at night to like four in the morning preaching at in front of the clubs and all that and uh i remember this homeless guy people would walk by us and mock us and make fun of us and scoff us and you know whether it's lesbians or drunk people or whatever and this one homeless dude would walk people would be in our face yelling and stuff and in the dude he's kind of big guy but he's hey y'all need to quit messing with the man of god god's on them on on on that man and you know what i'm saying god speaking through that man y'all need to listen and he did that two or three times right this homeless dude and he's looking for alcohol he's looking for dope he's looking for what they just living on the streets and i remember seeing that guy get restored and get into a drug rehab program and get his life restored get his family back and all of these blessings out of nowhere started happening to that guy and i can't relate because the only way i know that guy is from downtown taking up for god's mouthpiece god's prophets in the streets and i was like man god is honoring him because he honored us like is that the only reason no god's love is it it comes without restrictions but i only know him as the homeless guy who was taken up for us the only guy who was doing that and then to see that guy restored and get get back into his right mind dude it was like it was so awesome and it taught me just something spiritually about honor man wow yeah i called the culture of honor and on daniel's course he has that like like that really taught me a lot too bro like how to honor how to honor the man of god how are the movement of god how to honor my wife and honor you know even even you know even be on this podcast honoring you you know what i'm saying like there's something about when you honor like which i think is scriptural like putting your you know loving your brother as you love yourself you know what i'm saying like loving loving others more than yourself that's you know i'm saying loving just loving and loving god like those two things fulfill all the commandments all the laws i mean so like think about that like we love god we love god and we love others we fulfill all the laws that's crazy there's we got a question here um from god's love encountered says can you guys talk about honoring men and women of god and the dangers of dishonoring and disrespecting them so i can i can give a good test go ahead go ahead i got some too go ahead hey man so like i was uh when i um when i was in west palm i prayed and i fasted for three days and i said god you know i'm i'm i need to know where what church i need to go to this after i left that family church so god told me on the second day i was about to go walk my dog my dog and i heard the holy spirit say go to the mailboxes and you're going to meet a man there and he's going to help you i thought i was crazy bro and i never go walk my dog by those mailboxes so i go i meet this man name is malcolm and then the lord said before i talk to him like god said talk to him i passed them bro and i didn't talk to him i was a little scary but then i saw i bet hey man look that's crazy but though the guy's telling me to talk to you this man starts tearing up says yo i really don't we just moved from dallas we're a supernatural ministry you know we're we're a fivefold you know church all this stuff i was like wow so i go to the church powerful church bro i was they were nice bro it was like i knew it was god wanted me to be there but i was stubborn and i was religious and i just was i was i was i left the church because of tithing bro i left the church because i didn't honor them i didn't do it the right way yeah i didn't honor them as a man i was cocky i was like well i'm i'm anointed too i'm anointed i'm like i don't have to listen to you so i was real religious bro and i remember just leaving the church the wrong way because i said tithing is wrong it's not it's a levitical law it's supposed to be i'll give it get offering and all that but i was i was religious dog and i left and that's why i went through all those things and i talked to that man of god two weeks ago and i apologize i repented i called him i prepared and said look bishop i repent he said look i'm gonna tell you something we prayed for you because you're a part of you know you're part of the this revival you're revolutionist and we knew that you know it was just it was just in time either you were gonna go back to the world you were gonna get closer to god and i and because i didn't honor them bro i suffered whatever that guy that asked i suffered for that whole year period i went through trials and tribulations like i mean my finances started getting started getting just chopped down bro um i had the wrong people around me i was getting persecuted i was going through suffering i had got freaking diabetes in the hospital you know what i'm saying like craziness bro and then you trace it back to that to that you think yeah i was praying recently i was praying the lord was so supernatural how it happened but the lord told me to call him and um yeah it was just perfect timing and i felt the release and i was like wow you know what i'm saying i was like you needed yours i put him there for you asked but you didn't honor him yeah at the same time it doesn't mean that they were right about tithing it was just about your the way that you handled that situation you know it wasn't with honor it wasn't the honor you know what i'm saying yeah i remember going i remember going to like a a revival service and and we would it was a whole week at a friend of mine's church and and we'd get different prophecies from the pastor for from the evangelists and they would prophesy over me and my wife but they would prophesy different things and i remember i called the lady out because like we went there like on monday she's like the lord says you guys are gonna have two children you know and this kind of thing and we were like we just just married she's like i see wedding bells yeah we just got married this week and uh the lord says two children we're like oh praise god you know we kind of she prays for us or whatever and then we come back a couple days later and i guess she either didn't remember us or didn't remember the prophecy but then she was like the lord says three children three children and like for me i'm like okay like monday you said two the lord changed his mind ah and everybody's like oh he changed his mind you know and i'm the lord i got i changed not you know what i'm saying and so anyway i kind of left from that like okay this is kind of like some of those psychics or whatever and i remember just like speaking ill about those people and and not honoring them so much so that like uh they were preaching on on the radio and uh and i was just that i was working in a place where i just was sitting in my truck all day at uh at work and um i felt convicted you know for gossiping and talking about him and so lord put it on my heart to call i called him crying and getting it out because they don't know nothing about it but i'm carrying that that uh you know um offense or whatever the case is or or whatever and and it doesn't go back to say god changed his mind and said we're only going to have two or three kids listen we got one kid that's most likely all we're gonna have you know what i'm saying so it has nothing to do with that but uh but yeah it's about honor and when we go to the scriptures there's a couple that stick out you got to be careful because a lot of people will use these these scriptures to uh um to make people to stop people from from calling out bad stuff that they're doing right and so they'll quote these scriptures but you have the one that's uh it says touch not my anointed and do my profits no harm and so people will do that scared to call out fallacies in somebody's doctrine or some of the wrong things that somebody's doing that people like hey i'm not speaking on it because the bible says touch not mine on it that's a man of god you can't speak on him so hold on like if there's like bad stuff going on you know that that doesn't mean that but when somebody comes against you or there's gossip and there's something that's out of order out of line touch not my anointed do my prophets no harm like that's a law and uh and if somebody comes against that the scripture also says that vengeance is mine says the lord so god's going to take care of that you don't what it is is you don't have to plot within your own heart to go and repay these people back with evil i remember i went i went and shot a music video man i paid this dude 300 bucks and we went out we spent all night shooting the video never heard from him again paid him 300 bucks he would wouldn't return my calls wouldn't answer me on facebook i think he lost our footage he wouldn't set it up so it's like you know coming from the street part of that's in you like hold on like i'm gonna get you you're not going to mess me over i'm going to do something i'm thinking of things to do like you know weird like i'll go maybe buy some dislikes on this on all of his music videos and put a thousand dislikes on this you know just these things i'm thinking to do and the lord's like nah man i got you don't worry about that like he crossed you let me get him let me do it because i can do it better than you could ever think of and still in the end bring glory to christ and not ruin my testimony not ruin you know my my uh you know my my uh uh character you know and and so i didn't do anything and i just gave it to god i tried to reach out to him in business but you got to be you know you got to be uh you know you can't cross a man of god man because i would say because i tie that into this my testimony comes into a big part of it is crossing a witch like crossing those warlocks and crossing those people who make who know how to make goats read like when you cross those people you get into some deep stuff they they loose demons on you they got they put spells and hexes on you and they come for you right so listen do not cross a witch on everything do not cross the witch but how much more should you not cross a man of god somebody who's god's hand handles on and he has anointed you know what i'm saying so like really put it on the glass to think that oh yeah you don't cross the witch but it's okay to cross over a christian or somebody that that that god is called so it's even much more than uh you know dangerous to cross the man of god woman of god amen that protection man like it's just like god will allow things to happen take off that take his hand off you for a little bit and allow those demons to hit you bro and things happen yeah i remember i mean i was i was wild when i first came to christ where i was going into these which these these shops bro and like um and just like telling them like you need to repent like you know like these buddha priests i go to these voodoo priests and be like man like you need to repent like i don't want to do because it's called botany because you know the book tane does yeah and then i would just tell them like look man y'all need to repent this is wrong and i was wild bro and i still do it i still go and i what i do now is different bro what i do now is i go and i show love i walk in there and look around just talk to him bro like i talked to the people shopping the workers i talked to a psychic the other day and i just i told my testimony and he told me his and i just said bro like i just pray for you man he was because i was so loving bro like because i didn't come at him like the wrong way like i just prayed and said god just show them truth show them life and just bless them and protect them because bro like wow like there's so many mysteries there's so many different things but like why are we gonna show hate towards each other like you're on the other side and i hate you and you know what i'm saying or you're on this side and i hate you i'm better than you you know what i'm saying like it's all about love bruh love covers a multitude of sins so like even with the drug dealers and i got been to the hoods in dallas bro like i've been we've been to the ghettos we've been to atlanta to um to the real ghetto areas bro and and like just evangelizing and it's like i ain't gonna go to a drug dealer with a gun i say bro you be wrong repent right now nah because you're gonna shoot me in the head yeah so exactly like i thought i thought about running up on that guy that took my money like you know you think about it you're not you know these thoughts man you gotta you know bring every thought under the submission you know of christ and uh i thought about running up on him but like you said you run up on him to fight him and he got a gun or you get shot over 300 come on man you know what i'm saying so when i lost that guy for 30 bands when i lost that pack for 30 000 right i was thinking about a lot of things bro i was thinking about i was actually sitting in front of the voodoo priest um and he said all i had to do was do this ritual like this candle that was actually the first time where i heard of the voice that was telling me to keep going say if you do this i can't help you and that's when i asked the priest i said you believe in jesus and the buddha priest told me that jesus was just a man and got really scared and you're supposed to bring rome to the voodoo priest and they're supposed to take the wrong and drink it with the spirit it's like a it's like honor to the to the spirit he wouldn't the spirit wouldn't drink the ramen it's called it's called baba cool it's a haitian rum wouldn't drink the wrong couldn't look at me in the eyes that was the first time when i asked him who is jesus to you is he god he said no he's just a man i said can you explain he said if i explained i'd have to sit down with you for a whole day we could do this later got real antsy but that was the first time i realized yo there's something off you know what i'm saying and that was like before all that other stuff it was like it was so many different things bro yeah that guy was like stolen throwing throwing throwing weighing just like he knew he knew what was gonna happen since i was young my grandma was a woman a guy bro you know what i'm saying like i didn't even know my grandma casted out demons healed the sick did all these crazy things since i came to christ and my dad told me i didn't even know she prayed over me when i was a baby and marked me bro like i didn't know none of that stuff bro that voodoo priest went actually but my wife's cousin was a hula priest she asked about me one time when we were dating this is before we had a kid or anything and now that she showed me if she was here she would tell you he said he got angry and said what is that on his head what is that on his head and when she said what what do you talk about on his head she just he changes oh never mind what is that hair he looks like a french man like and she was talking he was talking in creole and she when she told me this later on i didn't put two and two together until i realized like i was marked bro that's why like all these different people i went to they didn't like me bro they always saw something on me they didn't like me i went to one sidekick who actually told me like after she asked for two thousand dollars for a chalice and a tabernacle and everything and i i was so wild bro i asked her i was like are you a gypsy are you trying to rob me she was just like you know what just go to god that's what i'm hearing just go to god go to jesus and i'm like for real she's like yeah you know what you just go to god and i'm like dang you know what i'm saying like it's crazy bruh it's crazy man i just i i don't i just know one thing jesus is the truth away and the light no one comes to the father but through him i love him i just want to show love bro thank god i'm out of that religious mindset you know coming to daniel bro like like i said even with you bro like when when i when i was like i'm gonna do i'm gonna do the podcast i got like i told you my wife talked and she was like babe you know you were into that stuff he talks about psyche and stuff like i was like you know it's all good and that's why i i was like man i don't know i thought i was like i don't know if i could do it but then afterwards you know talking to daniel to talk to my wife again i was like bro he's a man of god he's anointed he just talks about the subjects that people don't want to talk about you know what i'm saying like the things like he prayed he knows the scripture like daniel told me tell me know the scripture you know you know you pull out the script you're not just shotgunning you know what i'm saying so like that's what we got to do brothers all come together that's how truths get revealed mysteries get built in different things that's why i'm excited to talk to you more bro about it i think i think the lord is going to honor you for saying yes and and you know that's that part of you that was saying no and you could think of plenty of reasons to to do that and i think the lord is going to honor you and i've seen that because i i did it too you know and uh and i think daniel daniel spoke to you or whatever about it and you mentioned and i didn't even talk to daniel that's the interesting thing it was crazy morning because like we get into this because we understand how religion works you know we we understand how we like to preach to the choir you know like like uh you know we we're in a realm of people who ain't gonna challenge us or we can only be seen around uh christians who believe exactly like we we believe um we don't and people because people will call you out and say okay you're promoting true seeker like you're not promoting me like i'm pr you know uh like because of that yeah but but they think that you being seen with me makes you believe everything that we believe you know or even or even me and daniel or you and damn anybody you think just because you you do a song song with them because i remember early on like just when i was still in in the cr in the christian church realm doing music and stuff i had we were deep and i i had i did everybody's artwork i recorded everybody i booked all of our shows we were we were deep right and i was like 15 deep with gospel rappers man and um i remember when people got on different theology kicks me i've always been charismatic the things of the spirit casting out demons all that and and i had some friends who kind of got into the paul washer and the reformed theology and it was more literalist and how the gifts were done away with and all that and it got to a point where they didn't want to be seen on stage with us anymore and they wouldn't do songs with us and eventually didn't want to be our friends because we had theological differences uh in the scriptures and i remember what that did to me man how i felt i was so offended and hurt you know that we're you know can't be seen these people don't want to be seen with us because we believe something a little bit different you know and um it can easily it that religious mindset comes in quickly uh to only want to be seen with people who believe like you who look like you um you know we have to we have to be aware of that for sure that's what i've called this point bro there's different operations and different administrations all in the same body as scripture but jesus is ahead there's bro there's once we know that we don't know and that all we need to know is jesus bro like that's when everything gets thrown out and that love comes in bro you know what i'm saying like i mean you're you're winning souls bro you're winning souls for the kingdom of god bro just like i'm winning like it's all different i have brothers right now that literally like um they're coming at me for that same thing because they don't believe that demons they don't believe that uh people call that demons are that prevalent they actually have told me like like yo they they think they think daniel's a joke that's what they said like these are people i used to do ministry with this these are people that i went to their home and cast the demons out of the grace of god cast the demons out of their whole family their whole family is free you know what i'm saying and like they just like it's just like the honorable they don't honor bro and it's you know and i still love on them bro but it's like it's crazy it's huge like i said like coming coming out of that lifestyle what happens is the the lord pulls you out of that cleans you up anoint you and sends you back into that you know the same realm now he expands it too it's not just those people but look what he did to joseph and his brothers right he's he cleans joseph up he annoys joseph separates them only to send them back to win as brothers and so you got a passion for that i remember do going to churches and and i got this stuff was in my music and and and we speak on it every chance i got i tell my testimony but i remember churches and friends were like hey man i don't and these were huge family churches like you said bam we call them family churches uh what they're actually called secret sensitive churches um where they're just looking for numbers um and they were like hey man i don't think anybody here has demons man so just let's not really speak on demons here i think our youth is good and like the church told me that and then i remember going to like the halfway house is the christian halfway houses uh teen challenge where you got people just coming off a dope people still strung out people baby christians and all this and i would tell my testimony and the majority of them would be like oh man the eyes will get real big demons and all this kind of stuff and how real and how linked it is to to drug addiction and uh and but maybe one or two people who wasn't feeling it or whatever they went back and like would tell on me and they were like hey man uh if you can don't don't speak on demons man let's just keep it simple i was like that's the he's like these people need to graduate to the next level because they're baby christians before you can talk about demons i'm like these people are strung out on dope like it is demonic influence and and strongholds and that was 90 of jesus's ministry was to teach on the spirit world and how demons get access to our lives and stuff and so you know i remember you know receiving that backlash talking about demons and the supernatural and stuff as well early on and we couldn't speak in churches and then they wanted to pick my songs and any song that had to deal with spiritual warfare or like going too deep on stuff and like yeah i caught a lot of that stuff too yeah bro like we were in teen challenge the other day and daniel like i think it was like two weeks ago bro and we saw like bro it was crazy deliverance out of the dudes are hungry man for sure but you have this control those police officers who are like wait we want to teach them about it or you know they're not ready yet yeah they want 101 man that's crazy bro that's crazy i mean being new like making music and you know i know like the shows are going to start coming a lot more now i know that the lord's revealed to me that that's going to happen but you just said like people are going to be like don't talk about deliverance don't talk about these things but bro all my songs talk about demons bro i'm going to be real like all my songs i've had people tell me talk about demons too much i'm like bro that's our enemy that's our enemy what do you mean like we need to expose the enemy like he's there regardless if you talk about them or not there's gonna be demons regardless if you talk about them or not it's not like if a man comes and puts a gun to your head and says i'm gonna shoot you just because you say i don't believe you're there doesn't mean you ain't there bro he's there he's gonna shoot you so why not expose the enemy so people can start learning about okay what is what do i have demons let me pray let me ask god let me let me let me seek deliverance because i can't stop watching foreign or because i can't stop getting angry and beating my wife let me let me let me let me let me just try to get help because people are stuck in that mindset bro like you could be a christian once you're christian you don't have demons that is crazy we started going through deliverance ministry where it's like you know your background and your ancestral line and and it was like this long questionnaire that we filled out and and uh it was a christian counseling but they it was for deliverance and they just went through everything has the devil ever told you you ever had cancer have you been did you used to smoke cigarettes like they covered everything and then they would pray over it prophetically for about a week and and see what the lord would say and then you'd sit down in a session with them and uh and we had it was a home group that was doing this but it was a it was so powerful man and it changed my life like it was one of the like my just general conversion and coming to face was huge but this was like next level like i needed to let go of a lot of things even though i was a christian uh that that was hurting me you know fits of rage and punching holes in walls when my my girl said things i didn't like i'm a christian i'm born again remember even being a christian she'd say something i didn't like i grabbed the steering wheel try to run it off the road just weird stuff you know little anger fits of anger man which is a fruit of the flesh you know and so i went through that deliverance session and it was life-changing it changed my life and then so people caught wind about it it was getting big and one of our pastors at our family church knew that we were going to home meetings and knew that this was a big thing they would call it out from the pulpit and check you some people say that you need deliverance you need a secondary thing all you need is the cross at the cross it's all over just once you come into christ all of that stuff is gone that's not man listen there's so much stuff that hangs on man and so much stuff that takes years for you to unlearn even you know what i'm saying as you're on this journey of like listen lord clean you know do heart surgery on me get things out of me like i don't even want you know jim saying those thoughts to come in that i think about repaying my enemies with evil obviously the scripture tells you not to so we know we don't but i don't even want that to cross my mind so lord get that out of me that that spirit that's within me to to uh repay evil for evil or try to take matters into my own hands man and and he will that's what that's because everybody don't do that everybody don't think like that why am i thinking like that you know what i'm saying this is this deliverance but so he called it out from the pulpit and the whole church was laughing about deliverance ministry and this was something near and dear to our heart that really set us free i remember having a whole church laugh at casting out demons the christian can have a demon that's not biblical there's people telling you that you know and they're just laughing at it from the pulpit i just remember that sinking feeling my heart sunk into my stomach i was like man if they only knew man you know man that's that that hurts bro yeah that hurts because like man that's crazy bro that's crazy that's crazy deliverance bro is like those religious spirits bro you know you know that right yeah i've seen them i've actually i haven't seen so many i've seen demons i have seen like the fit like i've seen them but not not a million times but the times i have bro it was very vivid and i've seen a religious spirit i see how they look they have the cloak they're like they're like tall black cloak on it like with this cross and they look like they're wearing like something religious but it's all black you can't even see their face and i've seen them a few times bro and those are the spirits that are in the churches bro that are telling people like no deliverance isn't real i mean you don't need deliverance as a christian deliverances when you believe in jesus then you get delivered from everything and you're good and it's like you know bro how do you how do they think these people go back to the world how do they think that these people start smoking think about the seven churches think about like it's like so much scripture but all the people that jesus was going to for deliverance were the jews the religious people the people that were those people at times so it's like it's just wild to me bro and i you know i'm sorry you went through that bro yeah i'm sorry well it's part of growth man you know it's part of growth and and i and i try not to even though we stand up for truth and things we believe in i try not to belittle somebody's faith man or make fun of it even because i want to understand it i want to stay understand it and if you know and i want to honor it even if i don't believe it you know what i'm saying like if you know because my mind has changed it went back and forth and i'm still studying and trying to learn and all this kind of stuff and uh there's christians now there's a bunch of christians now but i'll mention this to you and daniel and we need to speak on it and deliverance needs to happen because they're teaching that demons aren't never aren't real and never were real that they were all in your head and they're just ideas and mindsets that you've created and how jesus never casted out demons and he just like uh um entertained people's superstition there's a growing movement of christians who are believing this stuff and it's so so far beyond and people who were deliverance ministers so they can kind of they have the badge yeah i used to cast out demons everywhere i would be in walmart casting out demons and here casting out demons and they all bring it back to the christian doesn't know their identity in christ because in christ you're free just like the guy was saying the cross all you need is the cross that's true but we got to continually submit areas of our life to the cross and we're learning new areas that weren't submitted yeah bro the flesh and the soul like actually in greek um like suke is actually translated from the soul which means your psyche your brain right so your soul and your flesh and um there's actually a really good uh uh deliverance book by alexander pagani i know you know it is what it is but um and me and daniel talked about this too and it makes sense it's like you have the outer courts you have the holiest the most holy and the holy place so like our body is the temple in Ezekiel 41 it talks about the temple that was built by solomon david's son the temple had three sections the holiest of the most holy the holy place and the outer courts if our body is a temple it's a prototype for what um solomon the layout built by solomon yeah so the outer courts are flesh which is where they sacrifice the animals then you got the holy place which is where our soul is and yet the holy son was holy so when we received the holy spirit and the holy spirit holy our spirit man is made perfect but we still have our soul we still have our physical that needs to constantly be refined there could be and there's 91 there was 90 something rooms in the outer courts how can a man have a legion of demons that's it from 3 000 to 5 000 demons how could a man have a legion of demons in his body it's because they could hide in all these different areas these different rooms in court and in the outer courts and in the soul so like not just because you accept crisis i mean boom all of them come out no you need deliverance you need you need to go you need to hit these areas boom boom that's when your spirit man by prayer by by seeking the lord and intimacy the lord reveals remember this remember that boom all of a sudden you're coughing up in the secret place but i've been delivered like for i don't even like nine or ten me too ten plus times i've done a lot of stupid stuff as a christian that opened me up for and it was just learning i didn't know i guess and you know and you learn like hey that was dumb i need to confess this uh to a brother or to to the lord and uh because i'm carrying it like i'm doing something that i shouldn't be doing that i need to confess it i've tried to stop i can't if i could if i could stop on my own i could if i could save myself i would have been saved i would have stopped years ago i can't well maybe there's something linked to it maybe there's a generational curse maybe there's a stronghold or some errors there's something that you're doing that is giving room for this type of energy or this type of entity in your life that just loves to be around your energy we we notice that we we know people give off good energy i want to be around those people you know people give off bad energy negative energy they're always negative they're always complaining you try to you try to avoid those people even when they call you know those people who are in just family members who are always negative you're like all right i got to prepare myself if i talk to this person you know what i'm saying like the same is true in the spirit man yeah you attract but you you put out so like definitely like these demonic forces they really they attract they they give you attached to you could be inside of you people don't understand bro i've been in a secret place and been like literally manifested like like i'll be praying three days you know just praying fasting like not that's not to say that you know people get into this religious thing about fasting too but fasting is important i mean you because you get cold you hear god's voice you just it's it's supposed to be enjoyable so there'll be times where i'm fast and praying just speaking on the spirit just feeling like he's hearing god's voice all of a sudden boom i just get an image bro and it'd be an image of something that i did maybe like you know like a soul tie or something like something weird bruh i won't be thinking about it and then right there i'll just in jesus name come out and i'll be vomiting bro like it's like it's so supernatural like it's like it's like i had acid reflux my entire life right my entire life i was alcoholic so i had acid reflux for a while i went to the military i went to doctors got endoscopies got medicine next to them all this stuff couldn't heal it i was like even the doctor said you don't even have an ulcer they they like you don't have an ulcer it's just something it's it's it's they call the lpr like larynx parental refund silent reflux i didn't even get heartburn it was crazy so when i came to christ i'm born again i'm six months born again i still have this i remember on a three-day fast i just i prayed for three days god take this out of me the third day right before i was about to eat i coughed all this stuff up i still didn't believe i got delivered bro that's i went to dallas i was drinking red bulls i was eating and i didn't hit me until after like a week and i'm like hey i'm talking about my wife i'm eating all this stuff i don't got nothing right now i don't have to take no man i have to worry she was like yo you might have got delivered into this dates this very day by the grace of god i don't have asthma results at all that was a demon bruh that was a spirit and it came out of me it was a spirit of infirmity i was already christian for six months i've been christian filled with the holy ghost speaking in tongues casting out demons and everything and i still need a deliverance you know what i'm saying like yeah from glory to glory brother i will reveal the deep things he'll he'll take he'll deliver you when he feels it's time it's it's all for his purpose it's all for people people don't understand that bro and that's when that religious stuff comes in and then they just get stuck there they get plateaued that those spirits will keep them right there yeah like you ain't going nowhere you ain't gonna fulfill your calling you're gonna stay right there that's just to keep preaching this to your 60 70 years old and you're going to die and be in heaven like dang bro i could have known my calling yeah it's real man yeah if it is if it's real if it was real in the in the world how much more is it should reel in the church right because the enemy just perverts things that god is doing and god is ordained like you know you mentioned you know going to the psychics and going to the the voodoo priests and the witch doctors and bourbon street those people are real and they have powers they have learned to to to tap in and they have to sacrifice they've sacrificed things to do it whether people entities or animals or whatever uh you got there's things that that they've made pacts with entities on the other side so that they can get supernatural wisdom and knowledge and information and so the drug dealers the cartel the people who are doing wickedness on the earth are going to consult these people for information they can't go to but see god has ordained us to the role of the prophet for us to do that with the prophet the spirit of the prophet is subject unto the prophets god has given them supernatural wisdom supernatural favor on how to hear his voice uh to feel like he have to train how to feel man like and to even step out on it and things like that so these people who have given their life over to it this is all back to the old testament samuel was a seer they had a school of prophets with a school where they would train you on prophecy and how to commune with the lord and and techniques and all kinds of stuff so then for the righteous not just the righteous it's really set up so that the even everybody who's going to the the witches and the mediums would come to to the prophet and they would hear a word from from god versus a word from an ancestor or a disembodied spirit or something like that you can come directly to god so in in the old testament you have many many uh encounters where people would encounter elisha and they would inquire of them and they would come to them they were barren they couldn't have children so people go to voodoo witch doctors now and ask for children you're supposed to come to the man and woman of god somebody who's a clear channel you know who who's heared from heaven and so that that's a role that that still exists and so that's just something that was perverted um by the enemy yes yes wow that's real bro yeah that was with um elijah when he came up and yeah man with the witch bro and yeah that's crazy bro that's crazy it's so much man and uh you know being just being around around people being around environments and belief systems is huge you know um yeah and just getting set free because you no longer you know identify or will tolerate or think about certain things you renounce any ties to them bro i'll tell you straight up like just something small it wasn't small to me but um i might tell you i was with the hebrew israelites right and so you're watching all kinds of crazy stuff with the israelites you know you're watching white man is the devil you're talking about god's coming back to destroy what all kind you know the earth and they just got crazy doctrines there's some good stuff in there right and that's what kind of i told myself eat the meat spit out the bones that's what we told ourselves in christianity and stuff you don't agree with just get rid of it and so i would watch you know hours and hours and hours of the israelites teachings and even camps that were really mean like this the people are affiliated with they were more accepting they were open to all nations being saved and it it resembled a little bit more like christianity they were a little bit spiritual but i'd watch the hardcore like dudes you know kiss my feet all that kind of stuff because they would tell you some deep stuff but you'd always have to put up with crazy stuff right so um i would watch it and i remember man just like uh just learning stuff from them that made me look at the church sideways and i looked at christianity or maybe people who use the name jesus as being less spiritual and not knowing jesus real name and you got there's all these weird doctrines that come in that become oppression oppression and they become begin to confuse you because there's so much that you're learning well my pastor says this the bible says that well this other version says this the israelites say that and it was a lot of that going on i was like man i'm never gonna i'm never gonna be able to look at christians the same i'm never gonna look at the church the same or even my walk with god forever because of the things that i've learned and it was a heaviness on me and i remember going to just a prayer meeting with with three other brothers and i just confessed it i said hey y'all um i just want prayer because this is going on with the israelites and i learned things and i just want to confess it man and like get it out and upon confessing and they prayed for me immediately that thing was gone something that i thought that i was gonna have to take to my grave and never be the same again it was gone instantly upon confession and it's like man something that powerful so confession and picking up stuff dude like it's it's huge man for sure confess your sins amongst one another to your elders so that um it says the effectual fervent prayers of the righteous availeth much will you be healed people don't people just bypass that scripture bro i'm gonna bring it to god so i'll be healed there's order for it you know what i'm saying like there is but you we need we need to touch and agree where two or more are gathered there i am you know what i'm saying so you need to get with a brother somebody you can trust the problem is that we can't we don't have a lot of people we can trust because we've had those situations where you you bring something to somebody then they post it on social media or say hey yeah i told you some stuff i'm dealing with and why is this why are you taking shots at me on something that's crazy dude so when it comes to even that will mess with you i don't trust anybody no more i don't trust christians they'll tell everything not all christians not all christians not everybody's like that so you just need to get you some new friends you need to find some people who are genuine you know what i'm saying who are you i i have brothers like all over man like people that are well known and the christian about community and just a man of god and they call me bro and they just wow things you know i get calls about this and that you know and just they just want somebody to talk to her like because just to get that prayer and get healed and delivered from that quick you know what i'm saying and like it's it's crazy bro like the the factual fervent prayers are the righteous available most people just bypass that scripture and just completely forget about it and think i can just go straight to god then make the big one i see with the deliverance bro the big one is adultery like i have like a lot of men like you know i'll get a word on others like you know i'm the guy that comes to prayer did you cheat on your wife and you know it's always like yeah i did but i gave it to god like bro you need to go make it right with your wife yeah it says that you don't even bring your gifts to the autism you made it right with your brother or sister if you've done your brother or sister wrong you need to make it right if you robbed your brother you've robbed your friend you can't just go to god and say god i'm sorry i robbed you notice i robbed true seeker for ten thousand dollars god and i said nah bro i gotta go to you and say bro i robbed you i'm sorry sorry and i need to repay you and then i and i'm in debt to you either you say you know what it's all good don't worry about it or let's make payments or you know i'm gonna call the cop it is what it is you take the repercussions but you gotta make it right with your brother or sister before you even bring your gifts to the ultraviolet and that includes your wife or your husband and that's a big one in deliverance bro yeah yes that's all man gossip bro like oh yeah i see a lot of people with the thyroid problems and and a lot of women like they got this jezebel experience that won't come out and there's times where i get that word of knowledge like are you are you do you gossip a lot do you get on the phone and it's not a latino woman that i come across this in the span latino community like they're just used to that it's a culture to just be on the phone like that you know like talking about their friend talking about their you know and you gotta repent of that it's it's not easy to when you're with that when that's your culture and you're used to that to just completely stop the gossip it's not easy it's not easy it's your heart it's your heart you know what i'm saying yeah it becomes it becomes like second nature like you know it it becomes your default gossip is your default you know and uh and you know a lot of prayer me prayer meetings turn into gossip meetings too hey man did y'all hear about what so-and-so was doing oh man let's pray for him because he's doing this you know oh yeah i seen him when he posted that oh my god he's with those guys like yeah a lot of that going on they ain't really trying to pray but they just want to hear everything i i i see all the times where you know i'm talking to brothers and sisters like though the little little like yo how do you say did you see this on my little bro i need to talk about that right now did you pray for him yeah yeah like do you pray for them amen like take it to god yeah yeah did you reach out to him did you message them you know kind of thing and that's something funny because dan you know daniel catches a lot of flack being seen around me and those kind of things and uh and being my friend and stuff and and people say hey daniel did you see on his website he's got this that he interviewed a psychic daniel he named an episode you know something about a psychic or whatever and he's like did you did you reach out to him like did you talk to him because you can you could message him and i remember when i was first going through that dude like being a christian and stepping out because like i'm into the deep stuff for sure like i'm into like if it's in the scriptures you know i find it in the scriptures and i'm like hey i need to you know find these references of stars and constellations and i mean there's so so much cool stuff in the bible that most people feel like they got to go outside the bible or leave it to get deep and get into cr you know deep deeper understandings but it's within the scriptures and when i started talking about a lot of the stuff early on people would like i got a lot of gossip my whole churches would would gossip about me stay away from him and all this kind of stuff and and it was hard and friends would come to me and it would trigger me because i'm like trying to deal i'm processing all of this stuff that your friends are now your enemies your friends are now not your friends the people that you told secrets the people who would pray for you when you're struggling they're not gonna do that anymore like that's hard bro like when you're going through that and uh i remember other people would be like man truth i know people say a lot of they would always say people say a lot of stuff about you oh what do you mean they don't they never told me nothing i don't know anything man people say all kind of stuff about your truth but that's it's not true man you really love the lord bro hold on who are these people like why are they telling you like what did you say did you take up for me like you know you're processing all this stuff back then and uh it come it began to trigger me man it was it was hurtful you know but but it was rightfully so you know what i'm saying like it happened for a reason um but when it would trigger me eventually i had to check it because i'll get you know it may depress me or i'm trying to think about what they said what they say like you know all that kind of stuff i was like hold on somebody commented on my post a minister he was like yeah truth people you know say all kind of things about you man but you still love the lord and you you know you you see you seek the lord and you just you're just a truth seeker man and it's led you to many paths and all this kind of stuff and you you live up to your name and i'd have to just catch us like hold on anything that y'all have talked about without me like that's gossip yeah i can't see anybody saying anything does not come to me and y'all are discussing me amongst yourself and y'all ain't come to me i'm very accessible like i'll talk to anybody like and y'all haven't come to me like that's gossip so i can't be like tripping about what y'all gossiping about you know what i'm saying because if you had any understanding or if you really loved me you would come to me you don't think you would ask me but like you said like you know the intimidation people were intimidated i had people tell me years ago they were like and i cuz i would check people they'd be like hey man you're into this kind of stuff and i didn't want to be seen with you about i was like why it's like because you're into this i was like um well won't you uh you know if i'm in error or if i'm in sin and you really care for me and you love me you should come to me and correct me in love well i didn't want to come to you because you know the bible so well and you'll just use it against me and you you know the scriptures better than me you know i just got saved in your and it's true it is true 100 i was like well listen if you're scared go to your pastor and come to me with your pastor you're a leader man like if i you really love me and you really care for me and you find out they really it really don't or whatever but you know gossip's true like somebody says what and so my god's love encountered in the chat it says what is gossip um it's slander it's accusation it is uh the adversary the accuser of the brethren it's like if i'm accused of something let me at least accuse you and not like accuse you of to other people i remember a lady who had had a dream about me that i had demons on me and they were rubbing off on some other friends or something and she told everybody but me it began gossip the lord showed me a dream about truth seeker having demons and they were getting on so and so watch your husband watch your husband around here because the lord says he has demons tell me you having dreams that i got demons on me tell me get them off me like help me you know what i'm saying it's like you're gonna tell everybody that's gossip yeah and it's the thing about it is like your words are powerful yeah what you you you know you can you create reality with your words you uh we we life and death is in the power of the tongue there's so many scriptures about confession and about speaking things and there's only a couple times where jesus like said people were in danger of hell fire if they did certain things and one of them was gossiping and slandering and trying to kill people kill their ministries kill their destinies kill people's the way people view those people uh with your words and it was that was gossip god the lord did not and does not play with gossip and we got to check ourselves man we got to make sure that the bible says you'll give a account of every idle word that you speak out of your mouth and a lot of people say you we look at it in the light of eternity when i stand before god hey didn't you remember you said this on the podcast with rich i'm talking that's cool we'll i'm sure that happens but i'm talking about in this life your words will come back to you they come back to haunt you that's why when you're gossiping or you're talking about people somebody screenshots it and they say hey hey man somebody said that you had a problem no i don't and they show you a screenshot you just ate your words your words came back and and people are recording you that i have people record me and play stuff to people all kinds of the people are wild man so your sins will find you out so when it comes to gossip if you don't have nothing nice to say don't say nothing at all or go go to the person you know really go to the person so that's my little rant about about backbiting gossiping the lord don't play with it and i'll tell you this the way i learned not to do it or am learning or is having a whole congregation of people gossip about me all your friends gossip about i can feel it bro you don't be able to feel it because the next time you meet that person they can't look you in your eyes yeah because they've been gossiping about you and it's like hold on why you guys can't look me in my eyes and look away like oh man i can't believe you came back to church what are you doing it's like hold up what y'all what's the little little things like you were catching you know when you were in deep and um you know it's nothing to play with man Matthew 18 bro says to go to your brother in private and then like you got you have to build your brother in private like you have to go one and Matthew 18 says you go one on one first then bring two or three more than you bring to church but if you don't go one on one and you just go to the church you bypass the whole scripture bruh and it's an abomination like you said it's an abomination like abomination being strongly hated strongly hated by the lord jesus christ he hates it so like i don't care if somebody in your church is bro i don't care if they're drinking getting drunk every night like if i go to my brother and someone else is saying bro this man jeff is getting drunk every night bro he's going straight to hell yeah that is bad bro you need to go to that person one-on-one and you just talk to him bro you're getting drunk at that person don't want to repent from getting drunk all right look man i'm gonna tell them look i'm gonna bring i'm gonna follow the scripture bro i'm gonna go get you know sarah and and and james bro i gotta go get them because this is what the scripture says then i get two and then i get three and then i bring the church that's what you're supposed to do that's the scripture but if i'm just like that's not love like you said bro we're afraid we're afraid of confrontation you know and there's a piece of me that's there you got to identify it like but you know people they don't want confrontation so they'd rather ghost you or just cut you off or whatever then they try to restore you and the bible it speaks highly of restoring restoring brothers and correcting them in their error for sure and that's real love that's god's going to put those situations in front of you to see what you're going to do it's like it's easy to bro it's easy to love somebody who loves you that's hard to love relates you know what i'm saying at the same time it's easy to love someone that's agreeing with everything you're agreeing and you guys are like it's easy it's easy but then when someone's like doing something different or it's hard to conquer like that that's really real love comes in because i know it's like let's say my blood brother if he if i'm if i was growing up with him if he did something wrong i'm like bro what are you doing i'll call him out immediately because i love him you know what i'm saying but it's like we're supposed to love people i'm supposed to love in the body of christ my brothers and sister i'm supposed to love them more than a blood brother you know what i'm saying if they're not born again like this is different it's like my friend says my brother's not born again right he will be i know that god's gonna you know bring him to christ but but i have brothers and sisters in christ that i'm supposed to love even more bruh like i'm supposed because my brother's not born again i'm supposed to love everyone everyone you don't say everyone was supposed to love but like i take the body of christ serious does that make sense you know what i'm saying like my brothers and sisters in christ are like these are my like this is my family because jesus said who is your brother who's your you know your mother your father your brother sister the ones who do the will of the father so like i take the people in the body of christ serious bro like like you're born again like you're my brother like i take it like that so we gotta treat each other like that so if that means calling someone else like hey look bro you're you're jacked up like you're messed up operating in the i bro i've seen um i've seen daniel do it bro like straight up just you're messed up you live and people take offense like wow why did you just tell me that it's like but no one's told you this for the last six years you've been as a christian but i'm but by him saying that might change your whole life might bring you to deliverance you know what i'm saying you're right bro and i i'll be honest i have fallen short since i've been a christian of god so i remember like the first few months of us being christian me and my wife my um my brother-in-law's people we would gossip a lot and like one day i just caught revelation and i was like bro i felt so oppression and i just heard the lord say stop and i was like i stopped the car and i was like we gotta stop like this can't be done no more we cannot gossip and i just repented and we all repented i was like i'm done like this is it no more like i can't i this is this is wrong it's an abomination so yeah there's healthy dialogue there's healthy conversation but there's also so so the thing that i feel like we got to watch with it um especially ministers or somebody who has not just ministered even somebody just has a doctrine and trying to convert people um is a lot of times what i found that that that gossip and that slanders cloaked in even the correction is cloaked in is uh let me put that person down let me dim the way that you look at that person and just so that you would like me more or like my pastor or my theology more so let me demonize what the things about daniel that i don't like so you'll like this guy more well you know daniel does this a lot of times that's like i said cloaked in uh any time that we try to slander or bring someone down usually if you if you go to the root of it it is rooted in ego like i i need you to even if i'm i don't even really go at like even other denominations you know what i'm saying like like baptists and all and people that are catholics like obviously we could for days really but uh but i try not to do that because most of the time is shrouded and why you should speak in tongues listen you don't want speaking tones don't speak in tongues if you got to unction for it if you if you're hungry for it it's for the things of the spirit you want to go deep listen it's scriptural we can go into it but listen if you just love the lord and you just love people hey i don't care what you what you believe or what you do or don't want to do and so versus like yeah man y'all's church doesn't practice this and you guys would be more effective if you did that and there's a lot of that that still goes on man and i just like kind of just excuse myself and i i teach it the way that it was revealed to me and the way that the lord shows me and uh and versus trying to bring somebody else down or name call or finger point or whatever i try not to do that as much as i can me too man me too i'm i'm confessing you know we're just repenting like you know when i'm in prayer bro just lord if i gossip man forgive me you know sometimes i'll catch myself and just stop and be like man i repent right now yeah just to stop talking about that you know what i'm saying it can get really easy to get intact also it's really easy bro it's really easy yeah the ego man you're always trying to kill that ego bro yeah the flesh same thing oh yeah exactly the flesh for sure well rich man i enjoyed our talk brother it was good um let people know where they can find out about your work your your christian rapper got some amazing videos you've worked with brian t and a bunch of other uh amazing artists and got some some heat coming out and those videos are amazing man and with anything else that you want to plug where people can follow your work go ahead and let people know where they can find you at so on youtube it's a beam of music records b-e-m-a records and then on um all music platforms disciple rich 99. for sure we gotta talk about music too man yeah man yeah i got some stuff i got some stuff i'm working on once this album comes out like i'm uh i got some other stuff that i'm working on um we definitely can do some stuff on for sure make it happen and uh we get up and shoot some videos too hey man hey man my little brother's uh he's 16. he does all the videos bro that's what's up come on the florida we go out to you you're in louisiana right uh mobile alabama yeah yeah my tripping bro you just told me that tripping yeah a little bit closer yep yeah it was right there right right hey danny was talking about going out there yeah yeah we're trying to schedule it for sure i i just texted a pastor friend of mine yesterday about trying to get him over here trying to hear back from somebody and if we can't if no churches will allow it you know then we're just going to set up in a parking lot somewhere so daniel's coming to mobile just get ready so we're going to do it all right i'll be there right there with him bro i'll be sure awesome brother really enjoyed it man let's link up you got my number let's build bro amen love you bro i love you brother shalom peace god bless rich 99 ladies and gentlemen good show good brother good talk hope you all enjoyed that man the realm of the spirit is is real man a lot of people um have given up the belief in that and and that these beings or demons or the spirit world is not real it's very a marxist attitude everything is about consumerism and and taking things literal there's many ways to to to break down the scriptures and and god bless those people who have given who have revelation on certain ways to break it down but a lot of times there's more than one there's more than one ways to break down the scripture and the symbology and what it means and so we just honor everybody with their gifts in the body of christ as long as they're using it for the right reason to edify to exhort and to build up and listen correction even comes to edify you like there's correction that that needs to happen so that you're edified so that you're cut so that the lord can come and heal it with this fire and so there's things within us man that uh that the lord is continually doing heart surgery upon us and getting things out of us because like what if you didn't know that you had a problem with gossip until we talked about it what if you didn't know that you had that pornography was a problem until you you somebody told you uh one of my pastor this this uh past sunday at the church i go to he mentioned doing an altar call and a a family coming to the altar a husband and wife who loved the lord they got born again they got filled with the holy spirit and they're speaking in tongues and they had a genuine question they wanted prayer they said hey pastor we have a question is is cocaine a sin we've been we've been doing cocaine it's one thing we haven't stopped doing yet we kind of do it for fun it helps me pray you hear all that kind of stuff it helps me pray and uh he's like yeah it's a sin you should stop you should probably stop snorting cocaine for sure you know and so there's these different things people don't know until they ask and we're just coming to a greater knowledge and revelation of this walk um and it comes through talking and it comes through open oh being open and honest and sharing our experiences and sharing our flaws and our shortcomings so all of that comes to play and uh and you just gotta honor people where they are and honor the growth growth and trust the process which is huge and so um every every every point of the the journey i i enjoy it um i got a story too just mentioning coke yesterday uh someone hit me hit me up i went to the atm and uh walked up there and had to get some cash out for my yard guy and um as i walked back to the car some dude rolled the window down and and he was like hey man come here man so i walked up to his car and uh he's like hey oh you're a roster aren't you i said no not a roster he's like yeah you are you got dredge you're a roster i'm not a roster he's like hey man you got some smoke man you got some green man and uh i was like no i don't he's like yes you do because you're a roster that's like actually i'm a christian man me too man but you got some smoke what's that got to do with smoking and honestly i missed an opportunity because i wish i could have you know prayed with the individual and let them uh feel the the high in the euphoria of god's presence that would uh that would take away any any desire to smoke anything or to get high on anything else outside of of of him because his his love and his spirit isn't intoxicating and it's greater than any higher any joy that you ever ever experienced so but i just told him i'm a christian man and i kind of cut him off there and i was like me too or whatever but i wish i could have prayed with them i felt like when i left that i was like man i should have prayed with this guy but i thought that was a funny experience you're a roster i'm like no i'm not yes you are no i'm not that's funny um i got this this letter in and as a message from somebody that i just want to read here and it just kind of you know reiterates um you know why i do what i do and and how i was just talking about with rich like it's so easy to want to preach to the choir and to to sing to the choir and one thing you notice when you preach the choir and stuff is is it's this realm of like um yes man or or or people that's not going to challenge you and people who already believe what you believe and kind of thing and something the path of least resistance is what that means um but messages like this just kind of uh you know hit me and let me know why i do what i do and i got to remind myself we got to be reminded it's huge the scriptures are big on reminding yourself but this is a message from a lady named brandy and brandy says i drive to jasper alabama for work and listen to your podcast the whole five hour drive i'm really loving your spin and perspective on these concepts they are filling me with the holy spirit and filling a gap that the church left me with that was the huge one that that stuck out to me that comment there it says these concepts they are filling me with the holy spirit that's the goal to fill you with the holy spirit get you filled every day filled with the holy spirit and it's filling a gap that the church left me with i've been called all sorts of things by the church and your podcast helps me to dive deeper into my relationship with christ and with my abilities as a christian christian reiki master i am a walking contradiction and i thought that that that that term there is key all of my walking contradictions embrace your contradictions embrace your uh differences and your diversities now i'm not saying that i vouch for reiki i we do interviews about it we talk about it i don't practice reiki i do uh look at it as a laying on of hands and energy healing which which is very similar to something that we do um she says all things i do seeking christ so she does all of this stuff as a a christian someone who is seeking christ your podcast helps me to take it a step further the praying medi the praying medici the praying medic episode really touched touched a lot of what i found on my journey although i think he doesn't think highly of reiki practitioners i feel blessed to have found your work keep shining brother those of us rejected and left by the church are with you and resonate deeply with the work that you're doing brandy and uh and it's messages like that that remind me to uh to keep doing it man to don't get weary in well doing and don't try to switch it up if you got something that's working don't try to switch it up it's very tempting to try to but god has carved out a lane for me that uh has given me grace to speak to people that are overlooked that are a walking contradiction and there's so many ways of like and you i think you need to embrace that obviously everything that you do submit it to the lord pray about reiki like pray about everything that you're doing be led by the spirit for god to uproot anything in you or any practices that you're doing that that's not of him that you don't want to be doing but i tell you what the walking contradiction is when you feel god is calling you into things that you thought weren't christian or you thought that may be taboo and and this covers a lot of different territories uh for me it was music like it was a lot of music that um when i was like there was this pendulum process of are you a christian or are you a new ager are you a christian or are you a spiritualist what is your audience who are you and trying to figure that out like like you had to choose right it was this idea that you had to choose who you were well i'm a christian and i don't do those things but music was a big one for me because uh i would listen to music that would um inspire me to be a good person it would inspire me to to help my brothers and sisters it would inspire me and about how connected we are with god and with the elements and and with nature and all of this kind of stuff and to want to preserve nature don't want to take care of the earth and and those kind of things and even other stuff just spiritual stuff not negative derogatory music i'm talking about spiritual music that wasn't christian and for me that was a big one of like you know you can't be a christian and listen to this you can't be a christian and do that you can't be a christian and do reiki want a bet you want a bet you want to bet you can't be a christian and be into astrology you want to bet you didn't make the rules to this you can't be a christian and whatever it is you walking contradiction you you want to bet you want a bat and it's only when you come to this place of walking in true authenticity other things that god is calling you to i have to preface it with that because there's things that god calls you out of that you should never go back to that you should never look into and there's definitely things that we have to be careful of of spirits and ideologies and mindsets and personas and demons that are connected to all types of things even in the church more so in the church embracing your identity the things that god has put within you the things that that that that move you that drive you to go deeper the things that give you a passion to go after the ones forgotten the ones that the church forgot about the ones that just become overlooked the ones who a friend of mine his pastors and worship team they would make fun of it and say hey people that's just a casualty of ministry those people are a casualty of the ministry you know they fell between the cracks listen that's what we are man we were overlooked we were picked over you said you're you know god is done with you they make fun of you they say all kind of little snarky replies about you and make fun of your beliefs and make fun of the things that you hold dearly even the deliverance stuff like i mentioned the things that i hold and held dearly they make fun of it you know but you have to figure it out who you are it is about identity so my friends that are talking about this identity movement it is all about identity it's about knowing who you are in christ who you are in christ like i don't do reiki but like i'll be considered i love god loves people who do reiki you know i don't there's a lot of things that i don't do but but i love them not just god loves them but i love them i love people and and we have to get to a place where we pull down those those uh labels that we put on people and we put people in boxes stay away from them because they're a new ager they are this they're a baptist they're catholic they pray to mary guys don't talk to them you know and this is really what it is man and so we're combating that spirit we're at war with that spirit of division and uh and you have to wear a mask you're a hypocrite because you are you have to wear a mask you have to be this way around these people and that way around those people and you can't be authentically who you are so with that you can do all things you have become all things to all men in hopes that you would win some and how do you do that you got to know who you are you have to know your identity because if you don't know who you are you'll allow these people to tell you who you are and you got to be rooted in the word you got to be rooted in the scripture because if you're not rooted in the scripture you begin to believe those people well maybe i am a has been maybe i am a leper maybe i am demon possessed maybe i am like the lady who had the dream maybe i do have demons maybe you know what's going on but you got to know who you are because once you know who you are again people aren't able to tell you who you are you receive your identity of him and that's huge identity and authenticity is huge so but again pray about it so even to say this like i don't want to you know give these people a bad rap or whatever like you got to be led of the holy spirit in anything that you're doing even if it seems religious or christian if it's not led to the spirit you're dealing with religion you're dealing with an empty religion dead religion which is demonic it's one of the worst things ever to be dealing with carnal christians and christians who who who don't get it so make sure that everything that you do is led of the lord and make sure that everything you do goes back to what christ said i only do the will of him who sent me i do the things that i see the father doing what is the lord showing you what is your calling what is on your scroll what is your destiny who are the people that he has anointed you to reach that everybody else has given up on the lepers the outcasts the prostitutes the drug addicts don't judge them sit with them well yeah jesus never jesus sat with him and he reached out to them but never he never did um you know condone what they were doing he you know he was with the people he was with the people those are the people who need it so man shout out to you guys in the chat um i'm reading the chat here shout out to everybody uh adam says titles create divide and confusion for sure for sure um what i hear and get a lot is god loves you but they never say i love you or let's talk religion at times will overtake the heart and mind of what christ teaches us to love honor and respect others yeah i know god loves you i love you with the love of christ listen i love you man i get to that place that i love you you know i might not like you but i love you so with that guys i'm gonna say peace and shalom man i hope that that um encourages you guys man and um you know you you you have a place you gotta find it and god's probably been showing you it's something that you've you felt strong about for years maybe even since you were a child but god has a place for you at the table and so if they don't give you a seat at the table make your own make your own table and that's what we do that's what we've had to do and now it's paid off it was scoffed it was ridiculed it was laughed at and now we got a lot of people sitting here eating off of the work that we're doing and and and they're you know they have a seat it's about the outcast that's who christ was for man y'all know that y'all already know that so uh katrina says that that has happened to me also it is hurtful for sure richie says everyone bless up remem remember to breathe uh blessed one podcast who says yo i'm ready to come on the show bro what up man yeah we can set something up man for sure love to have you on you know i'm not covering conspiracies though i'm not gonna have my channel deleted you know we have to we can talk about it but we gotta like use wisdom we gotta use wisdom we can't you know outright say a lot of things that the algorithms are listening for we have to use wisdom you know i think that that's why the lord gave me the revelation on the revelation on the book of revelation which is written with signs and symbols and and then code because um john the revelator on the island of patmos could not outright write about the people who had him in captivity to get these letters out they would have destroyed them never got rid of them so it's like he's writing these things that these other people don't understand because they're in code and there's a reason where that that comes into play that you have to speak in code you have to speak the language of the people you know what i'm saying so um we'll do that so with that i'm saying peace of shalom man love you guys uh thanks for hanging out we'll do it again very soon thursday we got a show i'm gonna be interviewed on a podcast right after this i gotta jump right into that and um it's called the heretic podcast so it should be good we're going to talk about spirituality we're going to talk about the paranormal metaphysical and those experiences so hopefully i can bring in you know my story with that realm and and bring god some glory with that about how you know there's good and there's bad and uh just talking about those experiences and knowing that they exist to to most people this stuff is this fairy tale it does it's not real but um but to others this is real life reality with that i'm saying piece of shalom guys love y'all we'll do it again peace well that does it for this episode folks to hear more episodes of 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