Deep Mysteries of Sound Healing and Frequencies | Steve Hampton | TruthSeekah Podcast
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jump into today's discussion. Today, my
guest is my friend Steve Hampton. Steve,
welcome to the Truth Seeker Podcast, my
friend. How are you?
I'm great. Thank you. I'm on the road on
a 9-week tour doing uh
uh mystical kinds of stuff with sound
healing and it's been amazing. Doing the
Lord's work.
That's correct.
Yeah, so uh a lot to talk about, man. I
I've been following you for some time
through uh our connections with Kingdom
Talks and Gill and those guys and I
really love what you're doing.
Um And so wanted to have you on here ask
you some questions and build and connect
with you and we'll get into that. But
first man, just for people who don't
know who you are who have no idea what
you do bring to the table. Just kind of
give a quick overview who you are what
you bring to the table. We'll start
there.
Awesome. So I grew up in
Honolulu, Hawaii and I lived there for
about 38 years before moving to the
mainland and uh
when I was about 12 years old, I
found a relationship with Jesus. I was
out at the beach, looked up at the stars
one night and I just said
God, if you're real and if Jesus is who
he says he is, I need to know you. And I
woke up the next morning and all I know
is the all the fears that I had as a kid
were gone.
And that was pretty amazing and and it's
never gotten old. It's never
He's never ever left me. He's He hasn't
forsaken me. He has been right there
with me and it's just been amazing
journey.
I started doing music when I was about
12 years old as well.
And by the time I got to be about 15
years old, I started playing publicly
with just my guitar and I was working at
a mall. They hired me to come in and
play for about 6 hours on the weekends.
And
I had the weirdest thing happen and you
know, when you're 15 years old man, some
of the stuff, you know, you don't know
how to interpret it. But I would have
guys come up their wives would be
shopping for shoes or whatever and
they'd say, "Man, I'm a construction
worker and my elbow was really sore when
I got here, but your music made me feel
so much better and now my elbow doesn't
hurt." They'd be moving their elbow and
I'd be like "What does my music have to
do with your elbow being better, you
know?" And then the their wives would
come and they'd put a little, you know,
quarter or something in my tip jar and
they'd say, "You know, when I showed up
today, I had a headache, but after
listening to your music for about 30
minutes, I don't have a headache
anymore." And so I just kind of tucked
that away in my heart because I didn't
know how to how to process that and
shortly after that I started getting
into all kinds of sounds, collecting
world instruments, uh and that led
eventually to me finding out about
crystal singing bowls
and bronze bowls. And of course a lot of
the
uh there's a lot of misnomer and there's
a lot of of rumor out there. Uh these
are
often called Tibetan bowls, but the
reality is they should be more likely
called Himalayan bowls or Nepal bowls
because they've never really been made
in Tibet. They've been made in Nepal, a
little bit in India. And so these bowls
are resonant and this is what I'm doing
on this tour is I'm putting people on a
massage table, fully clothed, and we
place the bowls from head to toe on
their bodies, play them, and that really
releases that resonance, that voice of
the the bowl goes into the body and it
brings tremendous amounts of relaxation,
healing, etc. And of course, you know, I
haven't talked to the FDA about this, so
they probably wouldn't want me making
claims, but I can tell you this,
just for myself, I've seen some
tremendous healing take place in my life
and I've been doing that particular
therapy for 1 year. Uh September 1st
will be my 1-year anniversary and I have
done
485
sessions. It's been awesome. And you're
on a 9-week journey right now traveling
across America doing it.
That's correct. I was uh I I didn't
realize where you were. I would have
stopped in to say hello. We were uh I
started out at Nancy Cohen's uh center
up in Woodland Park, Colorado, up near
just west of uh Colorado Springs, which
is where I came from this morning. I
left there at 2:30 in the morning so I
could find a place in Borger, Texas, in
front of the coffee ranch where I could
borrow some of their internet. And
that's the only place in Texas anywhere
near this. I'm on my way to Oklahoma
City, but earlier in uh
the month um I ended up down in uh
Plano, Texas with my good friend Polly
Eckert and her husband Tim. We had an
amazing seminar there. Did a lot of uh
vibrational sound therapies or VSTs as
we call them. And did a couple of sound
baths with the crystal balls and my
guitar.
And then we went from there to
Mississippi and it was an amazing time.
Now, when I say we, let me introduce you
to my I have my my chick singer that's
in my band. Uh
and her name is Rosemary. If you've been
following me, you know Rosemary goes
everywhere with me. And
uh I don't have my plant singing device,
but I have a a machine that I got from
the uh Brian and Cindy Culpepper that
actually plays the frequencies of this
plant and translates them into music.
And I love it. It's fascinating. It's
fun and we're starting to uh
to push the envelope. Uh a lot of my I
grew up in the Church of Christ. A lot
of those guys would probably think I was
nuts, but uh that's okay. I am you know,
I have hair of biblical proportions as
you do. And uh so, we just got to do
what we got to do, right? Yeah, man.
That's um that's awesome. So, I I guess
we'll go back and forth just because you
you mentioned the plants. And the plants
is a big a big one for me. Um our
connection with plants. And I think
we're returning back to that connection.
It's something that we've kind of gotten
away from or got into uh synthetic stuff
with uh you know, the the FDA if you
will. And you know, um they're taking
extracts and and messing it up and
giving you a pill form. But a lot of the
healing and things that we have even
within like Advil and Tylenol and stuff
like that comes from plants. Like this
this medicine that we have that comes
from the earth. And um and the ancients
had a a really profound connection with
many different types of plants. And
there's something interesting that that
I've seen is that that there's a
resurgence to um not only plant
medicine. That's a big part of it but
but even with that is the idea that
plants are alive and that there's a
spirit behind them that wants to
communicate. They've been here since the
beginning watching over us, working with
us and God has placed them here to for
us to work together and and that seems
something pagan, something new age or
whatever out of the box but the idea
that there's a lot of believers,
Christians returning to uh nature with
the use of plants and communicating with
plants and stuff as well. What what what
opened you up to just the idea or
possibility that there's a relationship,
a symbiotic relationship between humans
or maybe even a personal relationship
because it sounds like, you know, the
rosemary is a personal friend of yours.
She has and I and I'll have to say
shout out to one of your good friends,
Christopher Carter. Oh yeah. Uh I was I
was with Christopher this week at the
conference that he and
uh
Nancy Khan did up it was called higher
and deeper and Christopher and I had
quite a bit of time together. He ended
up getting a VST
gifted to him by the folks that
sponsored that masterpiece, Marilyn
Zander and just it was a an amazing time
for him and um
but he's the one that gave me the term
voice. Um
if I can sidetrack for just a second,
there's a lot of people that talk about
frequencies today and
you hear the common phrase the
frequencies of heaven are so awesome but
the reality is as as an engineer and I'm
not an engineer but I've got friends
that are
um
frequency is merely a unit of measure.
It's the distance between and the time
between one peak and the valley and then
another peak and so that's that
frequency, how often that happens. So if
we translated that to a different word,
let's say we said the inches of heaven
are amazing or the the kilometers of
heaven are so outstanding, it would
sound weird. Um so but I know what
people mean when they're talking about
frequencies and so Christopher and I
were talking about this
uh during the week and he said, you
know, I prefer to use the term voice
that everything has a voice, even the
plants, even the stars, even the cells
of our body. And so I had a real
breakthrough this week. I'll be honest
with you. I grew up Church of Christ. Uh
we we did believe in instruments in that
particular branch of the Church of
Christ, but it was still pretty crunchy,
you know, on one end of the spectrum you
got your crunchy Christians and then you
got your Pentecostals and they're the
juicy ones like a a ripe mango, right?
Yeah, so
um
I did I grew up in that crunchy side and
so a lot of this stuff uh I hid from my
leaders, but when I was 12 and and
became a believer, I started hearing the
sounds of plants and and I lived in
Hawaii. I hiked a lot in the forest. I
worked with bees. I literally I could
hear voices. Uh and I thought a couple
times, man, did somebody slip me some
acid? What was the deal here? You know,
what what's going on? Why is this
happening? And I had no context for it.
And I've struggled through that. I've
accepted it for years and years and
years, but I've struggled about sharing
it and when Christopher spoke this week,
he brought legitimacy to my experience
and I I talked with him afterwards. I
said, Christopher,
you have reframed 54 years of my life.
Thank you. And it was just so incredible
and I I spent literally his entire
two-hour lecture, I I sobbed and cried
for joy because I was realizing here's
somebody else that that knows what I
know and that does what I do. And so
I've come away from that really renewed
and refreshed and committed to um that
and I I had an amazing time this
morning. I left at 2:30
and I had time with the Lord. I was
listening to some of Christopher's stuff
on heaven and that
that was awesome. But what got me into
the plants was Brian and Cindy Culpepper
not too far from you in
Mississippi.
Um have this device that came out of
Damanhur, Italy. It's called the music
of plants, the bamboo M. And it's like a
little cell phone synthesizer.
And I know you're a musician and you
would you would understand this. This is
the guts of the synth with no keyboard.
But it does have a probe that you put
into the roots that have to be moist for
electrical conductivity and then onto
the leaf or the flower. And after a few
seconds of adjusting,
it will literally play the algorithms of
the synthesizer and I can set the
frequencies, set the notes, I can set
the
how many notes are used. I can set all
the parameters just like you do on a
synth when you're programming it. But
it's the plant that's playing the notes.
It's the plant that's sending the signal
out. And when I first did this, I tried
saying something that I did I I regret
doing now, but I I thought I wonder what
would happen if I said I h a t e u. I'm
spelling it. I don't know if Rosie can
spell or not, but she's sitting right
next to me. And so when I did that, she
stopped singing.
And it was 20 minutes before I could get
her to start again. And about 20 minutes
into it after I had readjusted the
probes and everything, I finally asked
her for forgiveness for what I had said
and immediately she took off and man, it
was like Vivaldi's four seasons. She
just sang up a storm.
I'm learning a language now of how they
respond and I've tried this with lots of
different plants
around the country. I'm getting a lot of
interest from folks that are wanting us
to come and do some research with them
in the growing of plants so that we can
deal with things like medicinal herbs
uh of all sorts, and growth of plants.
Like the early research I've done is
that there could be as much as 72%
increase in volume by just letting
plants hear them sing to themselves.
Wow.
That's interesting.
Yeah. I like that. I haven't heard that,
but that it that's very interesting.
Um it changes the game. You know, it it
uh Totally. It makes everything real
again, and I know what you're talking
about of just once you see whatever it
is. If it's somebody pre preaching or
watching a video. I think a lot of us
have watched like documentaries that
people have made on YouTube and stuff,
like the power of sound and power of
music, and stuff starts making sense,
especially like reading it in the Bible
that life and death is in the power of
the tongue. Talking about everything
having a voice and everything having a a
sound or frequency of vibration.
I'm reminded of, you know, if if we
cease to praise God, then these rocks
will begin to cry out. And you will
never understand that until you
understand frequency, vibration, and
every that everything is that has a
voice. Because everything is already
praising. The interesting thing is we
get to join in with all creation. And
like
They
like they're doing it by default. They
were made, so their frequency, their
resonance is praising the creator. We
get to use free will and join in with
them and sing their songs and praises
back to the creator, especially when you
learn their song. And to do that, you
got to be able to listen. Om, the Om's
tone is is the is the song or the
resonance of the sun. The sun is
vibrating, making a noise, singing its
praises back to the creator. And so when
you see the monks chanting Om, they are
singing the worship song of the sun,
essentially.
Um plants and and trees have that
knocking sound that sounds like a rhythm
or a tempo, and it almost sounds like a
drum.
Um
it's so beautiful to to be
to just to see the beauty in the magic
within all of these objects that we
thought were just inanimate. They were
just there, but they have a life, they
have intelligence, they communicate,
they have desires and those kind of
things. Working with the plants um
changes the game, I believe. And so,
with the sound and the frequency, I
think the next thing, and I know I want
to do this, and we probably have
experimented a little bit, but with the
uh the the sine waves and all of that
with the cymatics of actually
Mhm.
seeing the the the sacred geometry, if
you will, the geometric patterns that
those tones resonate at. Obviously, if
they vibrate, it's it's creating a
shape, and it changes the shape of
water, water crystals that are freezing.
So, like to to tie that song back to
that plant that makes that that symbol
as well. So, I want to I want to be able
to step into that part. Have you have
any Have you had any experience with
that with actually um defining the
symbols in in in the different sacred
geometry, which is the language of the
universe, back to the tones?
We have. I was uh at a place called the
Land, which is where Brandon and Cindy
Culpepper uh have a wellness center in
Mississippi, and he has a device that he
got from uh David Van Koevering, who was
just an amazing guy, helped to develop
the Moog synthesizer, uh major major
player in the electronics uh industry um
and uh and I had the privilege of
spending some time with David uh before
he passed into glory, but I would say
this, that this is a laser device that
translates visually
frequencies of sound. And so, we had a
large grounding bowl that's probably
about um 28 in wide. It's a heavy bronze
bowl, and it uh it's about 4,700 g of
bronze, uh which is copper with a little
bit of zinc in it. I stand the people in
that bowl and I hit it with a mallet and
it just takes those resonant that it
takes the voice of that bowl and
drives it through a person through all
their cells. Unlike ultrasound, it
doesn't bounce off of bone, it goes
right through your bones and you get
this resonant healing
vibration that goes on. So, we we played
that with somebody standing in the bowl
and the pattern of the laser actually
formed the shape of a of a baby in the
womb
and it formed the it formed the shape of
the infinity symbol of that figure
eight. And we tried it over and I've got
this on video, it was pretty amazing.
We also are doing things with the plants
where we're seeing people go through
healing in in Damanhur, Italy, which
to digress a bit, that was a community
in Italy started about 40 years ago by a
bunch of hippies that said, "Hey, we
want to study plants and see what they
do for humanity." And so, they've
dedicated their lives to do that.
They're now recognized as their own
sovereign nation within the nation of
Italy and have their own currency etc.
But, they developed the this process of
discerning what the plants are doing and
now they have these plants sit in a room
for about 30 minutes with someone who is
sick,
whether they have cancer, diabetes,
heart disease, doesn't really matter. We
now know that there are dogs that can
smell cancer and if you put 10 people in
a room and one of them has cancer, the
dog will go to that person and begin to
signal that that person needs needs
their help. Well, these plants started
doing this and what was happening for
the last five years
is they would then turn on the device
and after 30 minutes of the plant
scanning the person, they would send out
healing vibrations, healing voices to
that person and they're tracking
healings. It's absolutely amazing. So,
in the same way that you can use
essential oils, which are the lifeblood
of plants, to bring healing and wellness
takes place, now what Brian and I and
others are doing is we're taking plants
that have medicinal properties and we're
just simply playing the frequencies for
people and that's that's pretty amazing.
I mean, there's all these new devices
coming out that are electronic um and I
love those. I'm I just I I have a Healy
waiting for me back home. I'm excited to
try that, all the different frequencies.
There's like 144,000
frequencies in just one of their
programs, but I'm also really into the
the more organic things, like the
singing bowls, like the crystals,
uh like the plants and those are are
very very important. So, you made a
great point earlier. We're we're getting
back to it's not new age and it's not I
mean, I love Gil and Addina's
um phrase next age. So, really this is
sort of the next age for Christians, but
really this is the ancient path. This is
the old ways. Yes. And we are told in
scripture to stand at the crossroads and
seek the ancient paths and walk in them
and blessing comes to us when we do
that.
Yeah, you find rest for your soul,
you know, by tapping into that. Um let
me ask you this. So, as far as like with
some of these medicinal plants that
you're kind of um listening to their
voice and and and and people are
you know, I don't know if you want to
say being or they're feeling better or
and I know this is kind of going out on
a limb, but are they getting like a
similar effects of ingesting the plant
just by hearing its its its tone and
resonance? Is are they You know, it it's
early on for me to see that because I've
only been working with this since the
right before the the whole pandemic uh
thing went on, but sorry. Uh that
actually came out of my mouth. Um
Um but what what I'm learning so far is
that it seems like it's having an
effect. It's I guess we have to step
back and look at it and say what what is
it about a plant? What is it about a
crystal? What is it about white willow
bark that is found in aspirin as an
extract, but that's reductionism. What
is it about the wholeness of white
willow bark that brings about the relief
of fever, the relief of inflammation,
reduction in swelling, etc. What is it
about that? Is it just some magical
property
that is like in indefinable or is it
actually frequency? Is it actually
vibration that's taking place because
our cells all resonate in that way and
we know that that we know that and
essential oils is a good one cuz they've
been able to measure the frequencies of
those things. So,
I think what we're we're at the
forefront and Christopher and I talked
about this. We're at the forefront of
sort of redefining
all of these things. Looking at the
chakra system, looking at the sephardic
tree and how that lays over. I've got a
seminar that I teach on that of how that
overlays onto the chakra system and it
doesn't necessarily replace it. It's
just another way of looking at it that
the
the Jewish rabbis for years have looked
at things that way. And so now we're
starting to define some of these things
and look at them and I'm a practitioner.
I spend every day of my life playing
these bowls
uh, when even if I'm not with clients. I
listen to what they sing that to their
voice. I work with the
I can play these bowls or I can play my
guitar in in a sound bath and get this
plant Rosie to respond differently. I
was playing recently in concert with
her. I was doing sort of
a Beatles-esque Blackbird progression
going up the neck of the guitar and as I
went up the neck of my guitar, she
followed me note for note.
When I thought with my intention, I'm
going to drop down a full octave and
play a deep low note in a drop D tuning,
she almost beat me to it. Went to that
exact note. So, there's something there.
Now, we could say, "Hey, that's a
coincidence." But, I'm having
coincidences pretty much every day.
It's awesome.
Yeah. For me, I would say
some of my study I've getting into is
like I think it it it's changing or
redefining what we call angels as well.
Um angels are just these these
disembodied spirits that live in heaven
that sometimes travel back and forth,
but you know, that word really means a
messenger. And the plants carry
messages. Literally, there is messages
programmed into their DNA that when you
ingest them, when you listen to them,
you're receiving that that message. And
so, um
different spirits of like the elements,
earth, air, fire, and water communing.
And then I'm going back and reading the
scriptures and there were certain beings
and angels that traveled through the
elements. They come out of the fire and
communicate with people and go back into
the fire to travel back to wherever they
came from. So, just the the essence of
the this plant life, the that there's a
consciousness behind this leaf, right?
That's communicating a message to you.
And they all have different messages.
And so, as far as like looking at this
this broader spectrum of the angelic
realms,
these messengers that that carry
uh these angels that carry messages for
us, it it it opens up to a lot more to
the conversation.
It does.
thinking that the plants have messages
as well and that they're a living
consciousness that
you know, it can be embodied and is
slowed down in a time to manifest into
this plant or whatever, but beyond that
there's something much greater that's
the relationship with it.
Well, you know, the Christian world has
pretty much framed itself in a very
narrow doorway and and that's
unfortunate because
our worldview, our paradigm, our model
for
Uh-oh, I think I lost you, Steve.
Think I lost you there, Steve.
Let me know if you can hear me. Um
you know, one thing about dealing with
um
you know, the different Christians who
who believe in uh that the earth is
fallen, too, right? That
everything that comes out of the earth
or out of the ground is cursed. So, you
got those Christians that you're dealing
with as well. So, that's one thing about
it, too.
Understand that what is it on this uh
you know, the Lord created the earth and
called it good, right? The earth is
good. God is good. So, there's a a
relationship that's changing there.
We've talked about the plant medicines.
We've talked about uh
elementals, even the spirits that are
behind earth, air, fire, water. And and
it's just literally scares people
because they have this idea, this notion
that the earth is cursed. That because
of the fall, everything that comes up
from the earth is demonic and wicked
that wants to deceive you and things
like that. But
the earth is good. God created the earth
and he called it good. Now, there are
thorns and thistles, right? That because
of the fall that you have to kind of
wade through and pick through. But to
think that everything is uh
tainted or everything is fallen or
broken uh definitely
isn't uh the truth. And we'll try to
work on getting
uh Steve back in here. Turn the the
waiting room off. Anybody have any
questions? Let me know. This is a good
discussion, man. This is really near and
dear to my heart and I love approaching
it from different perspectives and
seeing everybody who has a piece of the
puzzle to bring their piece to the table
and so that we can get to the bottom of
it.
One of the things too that dealing with
plants and vibrations and water
frequencies, music, voices, all of this
stuff, whatever words that you want to
use is the Dr. Emoto rice experiment.
And so that's something that recently
popped up in my timeline because I
posted it a couple years ago. We did
this as a an experiment. I watched the
documentary water the great mystery and
they covered there Dr. Emoto's rice
experiment where you have the rice in
the jars and you speak blessings to one
and then you speak curses to the other.
You tell it it's stupid that I hate you
and those things. And
the the water responds to your voice.
Your water responds to the frequency. So
we we did this. We had two and every
morning we got up and we blessed one and
we cursed the other and
we started seeing within like a week we
started seeing a change. The ones that
we were the one that we were blessing
was staying the same. It just begin to
ferment a little bit and still looked
literally after a month it looked like
you could still eat it. And the one that
we cursed that we told you know we
talked down to it and called it stupid
and all that kind of stuff. It started
changing. It started molding. It started
looking disgusting. It it started to
rot. There was mold. It was disgusting.
They were side by side.
And we seen it we seen it work and
there's so many other people who were
doing similar studies, similar research
when it comes to music, when it comes to
affirmations, positive affirmations. As
far as I'm concerned the Bible is full
of positive affirmations that God says
about you. Not what your what your
friends say about you. Not what your
enemies say about you. Not what your
parents says about you, but what God
says about you. And so, as we're reading
the scriptures and we
people tell you even speak them out
loud. Like when you're reading the
Psalms, speak it out loud cuz it has
power when you confess it. It has power
when you can read it and know it, but
when you confess it and speak it, you're
creating it into your life. So, these
powerful affirmations that are within
the Bible, they're within a bunch of
other sacred texts, right? But for me,
as being a student of the word, the
Bible is is is is different for me. You
know, I I see it as it's a it's alive
and it's sharper than any two-edged
sword. So, when you're speaking these
universal truths, you're changing your
atmosphere. You're changing your DNA.
You literally your body is made up of
around 70% of water. And as you're
speaking these positive affirmations,
just like you would speak it to the the
rice in in the rice experiment, you're
changing your connection with the water
that's in your body and within those
around you as well.
All right, I think we got Steve back.
Did your battery die?
No, it was my I'm sitting in really hot
weather here in Texas and it said my
phone overheated. So, I've switched to
my iPad, but I didn't have the link, so
it took me a moment to get in there.
Great. So, I was just mentioning, you
know, the Dr. Emoto rice experiment. We
did that.
We did it and it worked 100%. We did it
for a month and like you said, like I
felt bad even like once seeing that it
was working,
I felt bad to continue cursing the one
and speaking, you know, negativity upon
it cuz I didn't even want that coming
out of my mouth. Like I started to get
convicted. And
have you have you tried that? Have you
looked into those studies as well?
I have I had the privilege actually of
meeting Dr. Emoto years ago at a
meeting.
We were gathered to talk about the
Q-Link, which is a pendant that I wear.
It's a quantum device. And um um I was
selling them in those days, but then
that company closed their doors and I
just reconnected with them uh last year
and found out that they've been 30
minutes from my house for the last 20
years.
Um but we were we were at that meeting
talking about how quantum devices can
affect uh the the nature.
And so what ended up happening was um
Dr. Emoto came to address that
conference and he said, "It's so vital
and so important that we pay attention
to what's happening with vibration and
how it affects us, how it affects the
world, how it affects the water." Um
they they did uh a cleansing or a
healing of Lake Biwa
in Japan. It was one of the most
polluted lakes in the world and they
turned it around with just intentional
uses of the voice, the human voice
speaking those words. I've done some
intention experiments with Rosie and my
other plants
where I'll I'll be online doing a live
uh
uh Facebook and I'll have we've had as
many as 600 people and I've said, "Let's
all send the intention of gratefulness
or thankfulness." And just stay really
focused and then all of a sudden the
plant takes off in a whole different
direction and we've had people come back
to us in what's called intentional
rebound, where they end up getting
blessed or healed in some way because of
the intention they've given to someone
else. Yeah.
I I love it. I mean, when we do
energy work, when we're when we're
praying and all of that stuff and we're
focusing on other people, we talk a lot
of energy healers talk about it all the
time that we're getting just as much
healing as they are. You know, when
we're sending it out, we're be able
we're tapping into that energy. It's
there. It's always there, but being
mindful of it, being present with it,
speaking those blessings, you're in it
and it's healing things in your body
that's off or out of whack or out of
line. And so, I love it. I love just
having an excuse to tap into the
presence. And we call it Holy Spirit,
right? We call it There's a lot of
different names for it, but it is a
spirit that is beautiful, right? It's a
a teacher. Um
What So, we're talking about these
higher frequencies, the beautiful
frequencies. Are there negative
frequencies? Obviously, if we're talking
about the lower-level stuff as far as
like There was something that causes
that other um rice and water to rot, to
look disgusting, to kind of give up on
itself kind of thing. Are there tones
and frequencies? Obviously, there's
words and ideas that are transmitted
from individual to individual through
our voice and vocal chords aligning and
speaking it out and creating it. But
what about the music? Are there some of
those tones that are just not good to
listen to or not good to hear?
You know, that's a great question. And
And I think I'll I'll say it this way.
For years and years, Christians have
um
demonized the music of the current
generation. So, you look back in the
jazz era, and that was music of the
devil. You look back to the time of the
classical music, uh whether it was
Wagner or Vivaldi or whoever, they
demonized that and said, "This is This
is not of God." And yet you find Luke
Martin Luther taking German beer songs,
writing Christian lyrics to it. And now
we have some of the most famous hymns
like A Mighty Fortress Is Our God was a
German beer song. And so, I I think we
have to be careful of um demonizing
things and of categorizing things. The
reality is when people ask me, "What
What are the best frequencies?"
Because there's so much erroneous
information out there, I simply say,
"Yes."
And they go, "Well, yeah, but which
one?" I say, "Yes. They're all good. All
of the frequencies are good. A lot of it
is the intention of our hearts. What is
it that I mean, cuz you can take a
beautiful piece of music
and write a horribly seductive song
about
you know
objectifying women and turning it into
something very lascivious and so but
that doesn't make the music bad it just
means that the intention has shifted
from something good or righteous or holy
and I love that you said and I haven't
heard anybody say it this way so I
really appreciate it cuz you've given
life to the language you've you've
called energy work prayer.
Now what's cool about that is the word
that's primarily used and I was a pastor
for a number of years I have a degree in
the Bible I've taught myself to read
Greek and Hebrew and
trying to learn Aramaic now
but the primary word for prayer in the
New Testament is prose ekumai and prose
ekumai literally means and this is going
to sound totally new age it means to
wish forward.
It doesn't mean dear Jesus please do
this this and this here's the grocery
list magic words in Jesus name amen.
That's not prayer. That's what we prayed
but that's not prayer and and I don't
mean to be mocking anyone's prayers but
the reality is when Jesus taught us to
pray he said I want you to pray always
and never give up and what he meant by
that is wish forward desire forward with
your voice and with your heart with your
intent and in when you do that you do
that into a preferred future.
And so I taught a group of women
entrepreneurs that were Navajo up in
Farmington New Mexico a few years ago I
taught them this and they called me the
next morning at my motel and they said
we've been up since 3:00 this morning
trying to intercede and you've totally
wrecked our prayer life.
And I said well how did I wreck your
prayer life and they said because we
don't know what our preferred future is
so now we don't know how to pray we
don't know how to wish forward or desire
into something. I said well let the the
in the seminar today, let's talk about
that. What does it mean to as Gil Vadino
would call it ascending
or Nancy Coe would call it ascending,
but what does it mean to be seated in
heavenly places and to to do what Jesus
did?" He said, "I only do what I see my
father doing." Christopher has a
wonderful thing in his teachings about
how to do that. He breaks it down into
practical steps. I've done the same
thing with people teaching them how to
see, but ultimately what happens then is
that prayer that comes out of intention
and desire, that prayer becomes
answerable because we start resonating
with it. We start entraining or aligning
ourselves with it. And if we're not
doing that, we're not in agreement, and
Jesus said, "If two or more agree as
touching
you're going to get what you've prayed
for."
That's not about a lit a magic list.
That's literally saying, "If you align
yourself in agreement, then you're going
to basically I and I I'm going to say
that this way, you're going to line up
the stars and it it it's all going to
work."
Yeah, um I like this I like this take on
the scripture that says the promises of
God are yes and amen.
Oh, man. Come on.
whatever you put out,
God, the universe, is saying yes and
amen.
And that goes for the
lower level
negative stuff. I'm broke, busted, and
disgusted. Yes and amen.
I'm the healed of the Lord. I'm the
lender, not the borrower. Yes and amen.
I'm going to have a great day today. Yes
and amen. Man, today sucks, dude. I hate
I hate today. Yes and amen. Whatever it
is that like that's the power in the
voice, in the vibration, in the belief,
and having that thought, and then
projecting it. It's one It's one thing
like thoughts are frequencies, too, but
it's one thing just to have the thought
and keep it to yourself, but But another
thing when it connects with the vocal
cords. Again, it connects with the voice
and you declare it and you create it as
you speak it. Going back to the Hebrew
mystics, the Jewish mystics,
abracadabra, I create it as I speak it
and or I create as I say. And so, um
we understand again, life and death are
in the power of the tongue. To be able
to speak these things out. And so,
that's the thing is like to be able to
see what the Father's doing, to know his
heart and then to declare it. Like
that's a prayer, right? That's verses
like you say, your prayer list lining up
with his prayer list. I got everything
right. I want to do this. It's like,
"Father, what are you saying about this
situation?" Okay, I see it. It's in the
future. It's not now. My now is It looks
a little bit different, but how can I
align myself with this will and bring it
into fruition? And whether that is a
place of you not having any peace
Listen, I want peace in my life. Boom,
let's speak it into existence and you'll
find out there's things that kind of
fall off or God lead you on on on your
own personal journey to to walk in that
and to maintain it. That's the beautiful
thing with it as we are
I know we used to always get mad at the
word of faith guys saying we're little
gods and stuff and we used to you little
god this idolatry blasphemy, but we are
made in the image in the likeness of a
creator God. Our Father is a creator. We
create. We don't We're already great at
it. Manifestation, you're already great
at it and people don't even know it. Oh,
it's going to be hard to manifest.
Listen, the situation you're in, your
job, your family, your spouses, you've
already done a great job at manifesting
it.
Being conscious of that through the
voice, through the intention and you can
work with the Father now that you're
conscious, you work with God to manifest
the reality that he's showing you and
showing you in your heart. Those dreams
and those visions that seem so far away,
they're not. They're You're not
becoming, you already are. But to be
able to manifest that
the voice, spoken word, sound, healing,
love and light. It's all a part of it.
Well, back to what you were asking
earlier because that so fits in with
what you're talking about right there.
It there's not there really are some bad
frequencies, but they have nothing to do
with the style of music. Right now
everyone in the church is either for or
against hip hop or rap or or heavy metal
or whatever.
Yeah. And here's the reality with the
research in the in the plant world. If
you play what we would call soaking
music, if you play a single tone
and don't vary that at all, you will
kill a plant in about two to three days.
Yeah.
That has to have some variance.
Uh the the the most productive plants
can be is when they listen to classical
music because of the variations within
classical music. Mozart, Beethoven,
Bach. But the next most prolific in
terms of the research that's been done
since the '60s is heavy metal music and
music that has a heavy beat, which would
include hip hop. It would include rap.
So, again, it's it's it's the
vibrational
frequency of certain kinds of
vibrations, certain voices coupled with
the intention. And I love what Lindy
Strong says from England. She says, "You
know, Jesus will answer to almost any
name.
You can call him intention, he'll answer
to that. You can call him universe,
he'll answer to that. You can call him
creator, he'll answer to that. You can
say, 'I don't know what to call you, but
I I I'm attracted to you.' And he'll
answer to that."
Yeah. That's so profound. There was a
there was a a season in our lives where
we was get really big into studying, you
know, really big into the Hebraic roots
and learning from a different Hebraic
sects and stuff. And there was this
thing that you run into with name What
is his name? And so God Bible says, "Who
shall whosoever shall call upon the name
of the Lord." Brother, you got to get
the name right. And so, there's all
these groups known as sacred namers, and
they all uh
claim to have the right name of God that
was revealed to them through the Hebraic
version or the Aramaic or this
part of it on this certain word here
when he told Moses his name was this or
whatever. Anyway, there's a lot of truth
to it. There's a lot of beauty in that,
but what we found ourselves with all the
study and my wife, it really crippled
her because she did not know how to
pray. She didn't know what name to call
upon. We couldn't call upon Jesus cuz
they told us we were calling on Zeus. We
couldn't It wasn't um
uh Yeshua, it was Yesha'aya. It wasn't
Yeshua. Like any any uh you know,
change in the way that you're
pronouncing these names, the other
groups would would tell you that you
were wrong. So, I think, you know,
you're on to something when you said
that God answers when you
His name is His character.
When you call upon the name of the Lord,
you're calling upon His character. So,
that's the beauty beauty of it. We got a
We got a question or comment here.
Um Andrea says, "What about the sound of
the shofar?"
That's a great question. So, a lot of
people don't know this that the word
shofar literally means in Hebrew the
voice of God or the wild voice of God in
the desert.
And we hear it at many gatherings these
very polite sounding shofar sounds where
they go
right? But that's really not the sound
that the rabbis play. They
Several rabbis from Israel have told me,
"When you're playing the shofar, it
should sound like someone's strangling a
goat in the distance, and you're hearing
the bleating and the echoing of that
goat dying." And that's how God speaks
to us as a wild voice in the desert. And
so, the shofar is designed to resonate
with his voice and to harmonize with his
voice. And so the shofar has some
amazing frequencies. I guess I've been
doing it right then cuz I definitely
haven't been able to produce those
beautiful sounds with mine.
Yeah, I don't either. I you know, but I
mean I'm
you know, I I have a a thing with my
heart where years ago I had a thyroid
issue and so my heart uh
uh has a slight irregularity to it. And
so when I when I go into see a a new
doctor or a new nurse occasionally uh
they'll for a checkup or something
they'll say, "Oh man, you have an
irregular heartbeat." And I'll say, "No,
my heart plays jazz. Your heart might
play rock and roll." Yeah. You know.
And so we all we all vibrate at
different frequencies. Um
Christopher and I were talking yesterday
and it was amazing. He said that there
is an algorithm and a calculation for
calculating the human frequency.
And it's it's some kind of an algebraic
formula. He's going to send it to me.
And he said you you you you have you
insert two
numbers and then you got to factor for
the for the third. And I don't know much
about algebra except maybe how to spell
it.
But um he said that the frequencies of a
human being look like a single straight
line because the the peak differences,
the frequency distance from one peak to
another is so long. It can be up to
several kilometers long just one
frequency uh a note. Wow.
But that's that validates what we're
talking about today with plants and with
other vibrations including the shofar,
including the drums, including
um other kinds of of plants and
essential oils.
That falls into what we call the the
either scalar energy or the subtle
energy fields. And of course Tesla was
huge on this and as was Einstein and
others, but subtle energies,
those things affect us in a very very
positive way. Now, can can certain
sounds affect us negatively? They've
They've done some experiments in Russia
where they put a guy in a giant flute
that was the size of a a large storm
drain, and when he went to activate that
flute inside the flute, they found him
dead.
All of his bones had been liquefied. All
of his organs had been crushed. The
frequency itself crushed him.
And so, obviously, they said, "Well,
that's that that didn't work very well."
So, they had to go back to the drawing
board, and the fellow who actually was
in charge of that dedicated his life in
the honor of the man that died in his
experiment to
taking frequencies and using them
positively for mankind. And that guy
single-handedly has has revolutionized
many of the machines that we have today
that function like the Rife machine or
the the Healy or the Beamer or some of
these other electronic devices. And
we're right at the edge, man. We are so
like if we can conceive it, God's going
to give us the formulas and the the
blueprints for how to do these things.
I'm absolutely convinced of that.
Yeah, it's um again, you were talking
about just going back to the essential
oils and how big they are right now.
Like they're at an all-time high of
people um
you know, saying
using them for medicinal purposes and
for healing. Bad thing is you can't
really talk about it, you know? You
can't you know, say that it healed this
and you know what I'm saying? My wife
was using it and selling it. She still
sells it, but she was doing videos where
she was like, "Listen, this healed
that." And literally, we got proof that
it stuff was being healed, but FDA will
come for you, you know, if you got to be
careful what you're saying that it heals
and stuff. And so, she just kind of
pulled back from it, you know? Um but
everyone's champion in this work, this
returning back to nature, the oils, the
sound, the frequency. Again, the
scripture says the beautiful one that
you quoted in Jeremiah that, you know,
we need to return to the ancient path.
And there we'll find rest for our souls.
And I think that there's a resurgence
with that. This is we're in this weird
place because we're moving forward with
technology, right? We're using
technology, but we are we're still
moving forward and and being grounded
with the nature, too. So, there's both.
I don't think that the answer is just
with one or the other where we're going
as a species, but it's with
uh returning back to nature, but then
using the internet, using all of these
different tools to actually measure
sound and stuff like that with the
computers and stuff like that, being
able to play sine waves and that kind of
stuff. It's like this beauty when you
find that dichotomy right there in the
middle with nature and with machines or
technology, which is where we're going.
I mean, you know, I think a lot of us
would try to fight against that at some
point that we don't want to evolve in a
way that we are with machines, but I
feel like it's inevitable. So, I think
that even even even uh so more now this
that drive to return back to nature, put
your feet on the ground, put your hands
in the dirt, talk to a plant, chew on
some bear root, you know what I'm
saying? Whatever it is there and and
understand that there's so much out
there with nature that can bring us into
alignment to to you know, I'm finding
out now. I had no idea
because we're into like plant ceremonies
and just using different plants or
whatever with with uh even people that
having problems with the word using,
right? Versus, you know, uh saying hello
or or whatever the case is, getting to
know different plants, but the cacao
like there's people who are doing cacao
ceremonies, like chocolate in its purest
form that's opening up the heart and uh
helping people feel more aligned. And I
think this weekend we're going to do our
first cacao ceremony. We have never had
it in its purest form where they're
doing doing it as a ceremony and opening
up their hearts with with the these
practices and with nature, these things
that are here, you know,
um
and it's been there the whole time. We
forgot about it. Again, it's not new
age. It's nothing new. It's returning to
the ancient path.
Yeah, absolutely. And I I'm excited.
I'll I'll I'll stay in touch with you.
I'd like to know more about how that
ceremony goes because I've thought about
taking
uh the plant singing device and plugging
it into the cacao plant just because of
all the different antioxidants and
things and the and the the properties.
And so I'm I'm like my friend Brian who
turned me on to this was down in Costa
Rica and a native uh
medicine man
um took him out into the forest and they
tried about 12 different plants
um and and had them sing and he recorded
those sounds and released it as an album
of these healing plant frequencies. Now,
one of the things you mentioned is about
the essential oils.
One of the workarounds that I've done is
that I um went through an adoption
uh with a Native American church. Now,
I'm not tribal. My wife is. My wife is
Choctaw. But um
I was uh invited to come and study as a
Native American medicine man. And so for
2 years I did that. Now, my medicine at
that point
uh was essential oils.
Um
and so this particular church uh
treats that as a sacrament.
It's a part of the religious worship
service. And so there's some protection
there,
uh but I have to call them sacred
copals, which is the the life essence of
a plant. I can't call them essential
oils because the FDA FDA doesn't like
that. And um
you know, I'm longing for the day Nancy
Cohen said this this weekend that
uh there's a day coming
uh and I hesitate to say this because it
could open up a whole can of worms, but
there's a day coming when
the nations are not going to be as
important as the one
man, the one new man, and the one God,
Jesus
of Nazareth representing his father and
Holy Spirit
that the kingdom of heaven and and that
same kingdom that manifests on the earth
are going to be the preeminent
governmental structure.
Um,
and and and the nations will all come
and they'll submit themselves to that
and and they'll honor him. They'll bow
their their knee as it were. Yeah.
Yeah, again, um, I don't know if you you
you didn't hear this cuz you were cut
off, um, but there's this idea with a
lot of Christendom when it comes to the
plants, even the elemental spirits.
We're talking about these angelic beings
or messengers like that any mention of
that stuff is demonic because the earth
is fallen. The earth is cursed and so
anything that comes out of the ground on
a spiritual level is a demon, is
demonic, is negative, it's coming to
kill you. You can't like even they would
probably teach you that the plant
spirits are are demons trying to speak
to you through the plants and stuff like
that. So there's this weird stigma with
a lot of Christians who
I can't stand it cuz obviously they
haven't seen what I what I've what I've
seen or experienced, but
Right. have you seen that too? Like a
lot of the Christians who would say like
everything that comes out of the ground
is cursed and there is no redemption and
God doesn't use that kind of stuff
anymore.
Well, the the scripture says very
clearly that the sun that the
whole of creation groans waiting for the
the manifestation of the sons of God.
And I know that that scripture's been
taken out of context and perverted in
the past and there's been the whole
teaching on the manifest manifested sons
of God that that kind of went a little
bit wonky, but the reality is that's
what the word says. It does say that and
I think the whole of creation is
groaning and waiting. That includes the
stars and the planets. It's the whole of
creation, not just planet Earth. I I
think sometimes
um we get a little egotistical and think
that we are the center of the universe.
We are certainly objects of of God's
love, but there's more to the kingdom.
And here's the thing.
Everyone's into this whole thing of
mystical Christian experiences and going
to heaven and stuff, but most of the
people that I talk to when I when they
share their testimonies, they're going
into the doorway
and they are standing at the door of
heaven and they're looking into that
portal. They are not going in and having
fellowship with God in a way that goes
beyond the portal. And if I invited you
to my house, if you and your wife came
over for dinner, I would not have you
stand at the front door and serve you at
the front door. I would bring you in. I
would give you a tour of the house. We
might hang out in the music room for a
while and play some music and jam.
Uh my wife Nancy would probably then
say, "Hey, dinner's ready. Come on up."
You know, we would we would treat you as
an honored guest, the same way the Lord
does when he says that the Lord prepares
a table in the presence of our enemies.
So, yeah, some of this stuff might be
classified as demonic, but the reality
is there's always a table that the Lord
has pre- prepared there and we have to
start looking for the table. We cannot
give in to these
um fears. And And right now, I think
that's the biggest thing about what's
going on with this worldwide quarantine
is that it it's fostering fear and the
antidote to that is what? Love. Perfect
love casts out fear, but I you can flip
that. Perfect fear casts out love.
Yeah. And we are perfecting fear,
especially in our nation right now,
because we're not availing ourselves of
some of these things
that God's provided for us. So, we need
to take the full kingdom. It's not just
about Jesus and what his
uh message was. Jesus' message was that
all of creation, I mean, he came to save
it doesn't say mankind, it says the
cosmos.
So, that includes the earth, that
includes the elementals, that includes
the plants, the crystals, the rocks. God
does not do anything casually or by
accident. And so, all of these things
were created for our good pleasure and
for his good pleasure. And it's time
that we start doing something about it.
I mean, I taught a a
a seminar recently on the the proper use
of crystals and why God would make them
in the first place and we're going to
eventually uh film that and make it
available as a product, but it's um
man, it's time that we we catch up to
what God's heart is for us.
Yeah. It's not what we think it is. It's
not this narrow little uh I'm a worm, I
got saved by Jesus
and now I'm a Christian, whatever that
means, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a I mean, those are big
ones, man, and that's what I like to to
show, too. I in my book, there's a
section about crystals in the Bible, you
know, in a couple places that that stand
out and what crystals are and
uh your relationship with them and their
song, their voice, right? Connecting
with that, letting them sing over you.
You feel a certain type of way when you
pick them up. I was just telling people
we went to visit a crystal shop years
ago and they're like, "Hey, man, what's
up with these crystals?" They didn't
really know myself. I was like, "Well,
just pick pick one up, pick another one
up, hold them both in your hand, and see
how you feel. If it resonates with you,
buy them. You know what I'm saying? If
you feel a connection, if you feel like
and you can literally feel that when
you're conscious of it. And uh yeah,
there's so there's so much there when it
comes to the the metaphysical and taking
that stuff back because it was in the
scriptures to begin with, you know? And
we we we gave up our birthright, man.
I want to show you something that
somebody gave me after Christopher
Carter spoke the other day, and I I went
through that 2-hour meltdown where God
began to redeem 54 years of my
life, and a lady walked up to me. She
had just purchased this, and this is
something called Proustite. Uh and it's
Proustite is sitting
I wonder if I can get it to There we go.
I'll have to hold in front of my face
cuz I can't get my green screen to turn
off. Proustite is this red uh gemstone,
and it's sitting on druzy golden calcite
on top of quartz. So, this is indigenous
to Colorado. Let me flip it around here
so you can see some of these. Wow. But
anyway, she hands this to me, and I just
I, you know, I mean, talk about getting
whacked. I got me truly whacked off this
thing, and again, it's one of those
things where
I ask God all the time when I pick
things up, um what do you What are you
saying to me? What What is the voice of
this thing? I do that with musical
instruments. I do that with my guitars,
my drums, my crystal singing bowls, my
bronze bowls. What is the voice, and how
can I cooperate with your voice in the
midst of this? And I I just think that's
I mean, that's why I'm on this tour
right now.
Mhm. You know, I I don't I don't like
driving all over the world uh or at
least in America, but um it it's what
I'm doing now. My You know, if I were to
try to ship all this stuff constantly,
um I that that I would couldn't afford
to do that. But for 9 weeks, I'm out on
the road helping people listen to these
resonant voices,
and it's affecting them in such positive
ways. We're seeing PTSD um
mitigated through this. There's
something called the gate theory of pain
mitigation, uh and that's what these
bowls on the body do. Um, I was in
Chicago this uh, couple of weeks ago and
I'm I'm we're getting ready to start
clinical trials where we're going to do
we're going to attempt to kill certain
kinds of cells using my recorded
frequency music. So, I've got uh, some
discs out now. They're on USB drives of
these sound baths and of these sound uh,
treatments that we're doing.
And this clinic wants to use those and
try to destroy a I can't say which kind
but a certain kind of uh, bacterial uh,
cell in the active human cell. And if we
can get the disruption to take place in
the nucleus, it'll go into apoptosis
which is the the spontaneous cell death.
We're we're on the forefront of some
things right now and there's a lot of
stuff I can't talk about uh, because I'm
under non-disclosures but I'm working
with a number of different developers on
devices and spaces
that healing can take place in just
because of the resonance. And this is
exciting. I mean, this is what Adam
walked in. This is what Enoch walked in.
Uh, you know, all the books that have
been left out of the the current canon
of scriptures. You know, wherever you
want to land on that, there there's some
things in there that are controversial
to the the church that's trying to
control mankind rather than free mankind
kind into the the freedom that God's
called us into. And I I don't care if
you label me a heretic. I mean, I
stopped caring about my reputation years
ago. Um,
I care about one thing. And people say,
you know, who who's your covering and
who
you know, look, my covering is Jesus.
Um, I'm accountable to three men in my
life that ask me how things are going
and then say, all right, now we're going
to call Nancy, uh, your wife and we're
going to ask her if you're telling us
the truth. And they do that. And so
that's accountability. Most pastors that
that confront you for that
Yeah. That They They don't get it,
right? So, it's all about relationship.
And I I am so excited, man, to to make
your acquaintance. I can't wait to get a
copy of your book. Um I'm going to do
exactly what you said at the beginning.
I'm going to order the book and get
online. I would love to hear you read.
Yeah. You got a long drive ahead of you.
I do. I do. It's so exciting. Yeah, and
I got a lot more driving. I'm going to
be out out on the road uh quite a bit.
I'm going to Oklahoma City uh today and
I'll be there for 4 days. Then I head
back up to Woodland Park, Colorado,
which is uh just slightly west of
Colorado Springs. And I'll be there to
the 14th doing vibrational sound therapy
and adding to that what we call
metamorphic massage. And so we have If
anybody's listening that's in uh
the Colorado area, you're welcome to
come uh and call the Tree of Life
Wellness Center in Woodland Park,
Colorado, and make an appointment. Come
and see us. We would love to have you uh
Is that Nancy Conspice?
That's Nancy Conspice, exactly. I I I've
only watched the videos when they were
just getting ready to open it up and she
was walking through the different rooms,
and that place looks amazing. What Can
you Can you just like quickly talk about
some of the other stuff that that she
has there? There's like rooms for sound
healing, rooms for like color and
healing therapy, and like all kinds of
like each room is set up with a
different type of healing technology,
right? Exactly. And that's that We're
We're actually getting ready to meet
with some folks that want to start one
in Oklahoma City. We met with a
gentleman this week that wants to start
one in Houston. We have about eight
plans to do that, and I'm going to take
this back to Washington state where I
live, and we're going to develop a
center there. And God's putting things
together where he's
creating strategic alliances with
people. But a lot of it is just there's
so much out there. You really have to
sort of choose from a menu of choices,
whether it's the Bemer, which is a
frequency device that came out of
Germany, the Healy, which is also a mega
frequency device that came out of
Germany, and if anyone's interested, uh
you can connect with me and I'll be glad
to tell you more about that and and more
about what we're doing at the center. Um
we have a rife uh type machine. I got to
be careful what I say. Um we have uh
ionic foot soak baths that help with
purging toxins. We have a room where we
do the vibrational sound therapy. We
have a sports massage therapist. We have
a metamorphic massage therapist and a
traditional massage therapist that does
all kinds of energy work. We have
essential oils there. We have uh
Kangen water. Um
there's there's so many different
things. We I've I've been teaching on uh
crystals, so we make use of that. Uh you
can pick up Nancy's book Limitless,
which is amazing. Um
I I sell the uh the little recordings
that we do so that people can entrain
with the healing uh sounds of these
crystal singing bowls and the bronze
bowls. There's just so many things that
we've got going and we're adding uh
technology all the time as these new uh
new and/or old technologies come out,
we're starting to try to incorporate
them there. And we've actually already
outgrown the space, and we've only been
open since the 1st of June.
That's awesome.
Good stuff. So, is there a website that
people can go to to I find your
itinerary and download some of these
um uh technologies and stuff that you
have?
Abs-
Absolutely. My website is uh
crystaltones
with an S on the end of it.
Crystaltoneshealing.com.
And uh shout out to my webmaster and her
husband, they've been helping me get up
to snuff on that. Uh they're they're in
Fort Worth, Texas, and uh they've been
really awesome. I think the downloads
are up and ready. People are able to
look into that. We're I'm working on a
book right now.
Actually, a couple of books. I've got
three finished and and they're going to
help me get those edited and produced
and then I've got a fourth book called
Quantum 8 meditation
that I'm going to begin releasing. I
actually need to take some time to write
that. I can't write while I'm driving,
but I can dictate. And so I've been
doing some of that. And uh
So I'm I'm very excited to connect with
you on these things because I think as
we help one another, as we give voice to
one another,
the the greatest successes in the world
were collaborations that took place
between
people. And and I think that we're back
to that time of both collaboration and
then those who patronize
the arts, those who patronize people
like yourself who are developing these
new contexts where we can make use of
technology as well as just take the
scriptures at face value. And so
if I can speak as a fellow minister and
a member of the body of Christ, support
Truth Seeker. You know, go on, become a
patron.
You know, invite your friends.
I've shared this on my Facebook page
today so that we can get more people
engaged and involved. And And so I'm
excited
to meet you. I can't wait to come see
you sometime.
I just got a text while we were talking
from Brian. He's going to come up and
join me from Mississippi
this week or next week in Colorado and
be at the center. We're going to do a
plant concert.
He's going to bring three of his devices
and and and I'll use mine and we'll put
four plants together and and
watch what happens. We'll we'll just
offer that as a healing opportunity.
That's so I can't wait to do it as well.
Again, what's the couple's name in
Mississippi because they're very close
to me. I need What's their
Yeah, they are. It's And I'll shoot you
their their info, but it's Bryan with a
Y, B R Y A N, and Cindy Culpepper, C U L
P E P P E R. You can find them on
Facebook. Um
and uh Bryan's a a
a a country singer. Uh he had a band
called Pearl River years ago.
Uh he was the first artist signed to
Glen Campbell's new label when Glen
first put that out. He was a songwriter
in Nashville, wrote for a number of
different artists over the years, and
now he's focused on frequency healing.
They run this center uh that they have
called the land, and they just do so
many awesome things. I went there for me
for about 4 days, and they just took
care of me like I was some kind of a I
mean, I felt like Queen Esther, uh you
know, being bathed in milk in a milk
bath, you know, with essential oils.
They just had so many cool technologies
that I was able to try out, and it was
not only healing for me, but uh very
restorative in terms of my ability to
conceive of what's possible for the
future. Yeah. And this is something, as
I'm reading the chat, everybody's into,
and they want to see more of, and they
want to start their own centers, and I
know people all over the world who are
um
taking the step. So, we're we're we're
definitely in in for some uh interesting
times coming up where everybody is
returning back to
the uh ancient ancient ways, I believe.
So, Steve, thanks for coming on, hanging
out with me, man. Again, your website
one more last time?
Uh the website is uh
www.crystaltoneshealing.com,
and my email is steve
@crystaltoneshealing.com.
And if you guys have questions about the
Q link, if you want to know more about
the Healy, if you want to know more
about the vibrational sound therapies
and what we're doing, feel free to to
send me an email or log onto the
website, and man, I just so appreciate
you and what we've uh been able to talk
about today. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
you. I'm going to jump on the road here
and and let you get on with your day.
my brother. Safe travels to you, and I
look forward to meeting you in person
soon.
Thank you. All right. Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Steve Hampton, ladies and gentlemen.
Crystal bowls, sound healing,
vibrational healing, color healing.
Look,
it's God it's God's work.
Doing God's work, man. It's what it's
about. Um
so much when it comes to sound healing
and tones, man, and
um again, my music, you know what I'm
saying? Just being able to open up
portals for people to encounter the
divine.
Music, you know, the rhythms of the drum
beats, and the rhythm of the drum puts
me under hypnosis and to be able to tap
into uh the spirit of God. When you
think about God, when you think of when
you read the Bible, listen, you got to
you got to go back to the tribal
mentality. These people was tribal, man.
These people, I'm talking about they're
using bones and things to make rattles
and and music and tambourines and and uh
shakers and all this stuff. They're
using skin the skins of animals. So, you
really got to go back to that tribal
sound, and they understood the power of
music, man.
You got to go back to it. And so,
understand I was doing an interview
yesterday.
Last night, somebody was interviewing
me, and they were like had this intro
music. It was a waiting music, but it
was just like these tribal drums. And
I'm sitting here, I'm like I'm trying to
get into it a little bit as I'm hearing
this I'm not on camera, but I'm just
sitting listening to it, and it's like
you can feel the energy begin to move as
you're getting in sync with the drums,
and you're moving that energy through
the body. And so, this is how they would
they would praise the Lord in in the
scriptures. What is it? Psalm I want to
say
147? I'm not 149 was talking about
praise the Lord with all the
instruments, like all the instruments
coming together to to lift up the sound
to praise the Lord. It's so beautiful,
but
tribal drums, all of those those things,
I love it. There's some ministries back
in the day that I really got into and I
still love to this day because they
opened up the door for
um
a lot of like the Bethels and
some of the new Hillsong type stuff, but
Morningstar Ministries. And I was going
to ask
Steve if he had checked them out, but
Morningstar Ministries and they would do
a lot of tribal type music that was
mixed into their worship and they would
play the the stringed instruments and
and the skinned instruments and things
like that and really using the djembe
and the cajones and all of that kind of
stuff in a in a very primitive way.
There's some really interesting videos
of them tapping into the spirit with
just everybody like there was like I
want to say like four or five different
drummers
playing the drums and then you can feel
people just beginning to dance and open
up and and the spirit was moving to
majority of people they would look at it
and say that's pagan. That doesn't look
like God cuz it cuz you've never seen it
in a church. But when you see people
doing it again, you got to go back to
the primitive way. We we read the Bible
and we try to interpret it through
a western lens.
They were primitive people.
They were tribal people.
You know, that's what they did. Music,
stargazing, the arts like they were
definitely the people of the land and
we've we're so
removed from that.
All of the a lot of these
uh plants and things that we're we're
we're using and
communicating with and stuff and so I I
believe that a lot of that was going on,
too. Very tribal.
They they had that connection. They knew
it. So, it's special to me to see the
seers and the prophets and these
peculiar guys who would just tap in
through the music. And they understood
the power of it.
I mean, the show far, all of it. It's so
beautiful. So, I'm I'm working on some
teachings as well to get my stuff out
there with my experiences with the music
and the interesting thing is that like
I'm
I literally have like
it's teachings that I wrote word for
word and
I listened to a Perry Stone teaching
recently and he's teaching everything
that like was on my my teaching. Like
everything. He's talking about Dr.
Emoto, which everybody is now. But, it's
interesting that we've had to kind of at
least I had to. I had to go outside of
the church culture and church walls to
really go where the Lord was leading me
to to study and to find a lot of these
things out cuz who can you Listen, uh
you There wasn't a lot of people to talk
to in the church realm about the morning
stars and the songs vibe the the stars
vibrating and singing a song and
resonating and communicating with you
through stargazing and like the angels
traveling back and forth and and
appearing like there was some things
that would just blew my mind and I I
would try to talk about it with with
church people and they just they didn't
get it. And so, I had to travel outside
of the church to to study and things,
but the interesting thing now
is that a lot of people in the church
realm are waking up.
They're waking up. They're into this
stuff. Everything that we've been
Listen, the stuff I've
Perry Stone come to a very similar
revelation. Like at at what I come to
and with the sound and healing and music
and now they all are. It's always been
something with the prophets who have
been more um
uh empathic that who can see what God is
doing and been being led out there
before everyone and you you get into it
and then people follow suit. Then like
you it it looks it looks demonic, it
looks unbiblical, ungodly until your
favorite preacher starts preaching on
it. You know, wearing the suit and tie
or whatever the case is. And so, that's
always been the case for me. And so, um
it's really cool to see the church
following suit. Again, finding people
like Chris Carter, Steve Hampton, uh,
you know what I'm saying? Brian Oren,
uh, Nancy Cohen. There's so many other
people who were talking about the deep
things of God from a biblical
perspective. And, uh, returning back to
nature and and the angelic and stuff
like that and your relationship with the
other beings on the other side that are
watching over you and how close they
are.
Um, it's it's amazing that now we can be
a little bit more vocal about our faith
cuz you don't have to abandon it. Like,
if if you tap into like the occult and
the new age, you got to leave your faith
at the door. You can't be going into new
age circles talking about your love for
Jesus and how beautiful the scriptures
are and the Bible. Listen, they're
laughing at us, for real. But, the I do
it, right? I talk about it cuz it opens
other people up. But, you don't have to
leave your faith at the door.
Take it with you, man. Take take your
truth that you've that you've
experienced and encountered with Jesus,
your testimony. That's your solid rock.
That's your foundation. Everything that
can be will be shaken, but Christ is a
perfect foundation to build upon, which
is love in the highest. It will not be
shaken. Whatever it is, man, keep your
faith.
Don't don't sell out. Don't waver for
nobody. If you've lost it, return to it.
It's just a prayer away. It's just a a
breath away. It's an acknowledgement
away. Open the scriptures, man. Get into
prayer because God is is there with as a
loving father with his arms wide open,
just like the prodigal son. There's
nothing that you can do. You can't go
far enough that you're going to outrun
his love or you're going to venture out
to a place where he's not there. No
matter where you go, he's there.
And that's the beautiful thing about it.
Keep your faith, man. Let other people
know we have a hope inside of us. Don't
sell out to get into the deeper things.
Beautiful thing is we can still be
Christians or Christian mystic and still
talk about our faith, you know, and
still be into deeper things. That's
where the church folks got it wrong,
where they'll say I remember seeing
posts back in the day that would say um
you know, Christians Christians can't be
into astrology. There's no such thing.
It's like, you want to bet?
Christians can't be talking about
aliens. You want to bet? Christians
can't be doing plant medicine. You want
to bet? Christians can't smoke weed. I I
don't. But you want to bet? I know
Christians that smoke weed. Like, what
do you mean they can't? Quit trying to
put these rules on these people
and kick them out of a club that you
didn't invite them to. You didn't You
didn't let nobody in, so how can you
kick us out? I'm telling you it you
we're in a season now where the game has
changed. Church The church shut its
doors on you when COVID hit. They shut
the doors. You can't come here.
Government told us, "Listen, people
understand that they have to have that
connection with their with their
heavenly Father more than anything, more
than church, more than discipleship,
more than who who are you submitted to?"
You better be submitted to God. You
better be submitted to Christ. You
better be submitted to love on every
level. That's what you got to submit to
every day. That's what you got to answer
to. So,
own your story.
Speak it. Encourage other people. This
is where we're at. The church is lining
up with a lot of Christians who
demonized you, now they're preaching
these same sermons.
The people who talked bad about us, now
they're talking about the Illuminati.
Now they're talking about about the New
World Order. Now they're talking about
FEMA camps and all this kind of stuff.
Listen, we This was 2006, 7, and 8. We
were talking about all this. Now people
are into it. We're talking about the
satanic people in the government and
satanic people in in Hollywood, but now
it's catching up with everybody.
A lot of people have been ahead of the
game because you study. You've been a
Berean. You're doing the work. You're
watching those things. I believe it's
God calling you to it.
You know, and they try to say, "Okay,
going astray." No, listen. That was the
biggest you know, one of the biggest
things for me to understand who I was
because I I I felt God calling me to
nature. I felt God calling me to some of
the more tribal, primitive stuff. Even
with the music, listening like this you
know, secular music that's not Christian
that I was I really resonated with.
Understood the lyrics. It's It's really
spoke to my spirit. And they'll say,
"No, that's you know, you you're
following the flesh, you're following
your your own own desires." and all this
kind of stuff. But
when you understand that it is God who
is the author and the finisher of your
faith, this dichotomy of going back and
forth, being double-minded cuz one day
you're this, one day you're that.
Listen.
They're trying to kick you out of the
club. It's It's hard. A lot of people
are there.
A lot of people are there. That's why
you have to understand that you got to
make sure that you hear the Father's
voice.
And he says that my sheep hear my voice
and a stranger's voice they will not
follow. He's going to lead you to some
interesting stuff.
You know, my eye has not seen nor ear
has heard the great and mighty things
that God has in store for those who love
him.
And it it'll take you in places you
you've never imagined, never fathomed.
But his grace and his peace is there. Go
to where the peace is.
It ain't at the opinions or approval of
man. I'll tell you that much.
The approval and opinions and applause
of men can be
um intoxicating.
But that's definitely not where we're
supposed to be.
You know, you're patting each other on
the back or preaching to the choir. You
got to You got to find out your purpose.
Where does he want you? And if it's in
that that realm,
more power more power to you. You know
what I'm saying? If that's where you're
called. But find out where you're called
and go, man. For a lot of us it's it's
where we came out of.
Like the Lord pulled you out of some
stuff, cleaned you up, and sends you
back in there.
Usually, if you want to know your
calling, it's pretty much probably going
back to where you came from, but with a
message. I mean, it's biblical. Jesus
did it.
Joseph did it, went back to his same
brothers.
The ones who tried to kill him.
You know, part of the story.
Um
Some of the questions here, if anybody
has any questions, let me know.
Whatever, I got a few more minutes. Um
Claymore wants to know, uh
is it on Amazon or Audible?
My book. Yeah, it's on it's on both. You
can actually get to the Audible link
through Amazon, but if you want the free
copy, you go to the link that's in my
bio. Um
uh I think it's
audibletrial.com/truthseeker, and you
get uh a free book. So, you can actually
sign
up and and not even have to spend any
money. Sign up and cancel, get the free
download, boom, it's how it works. So,
you can get it that way,
uh but it is on Audible, it's on Amazon,
all that good stuff. So, make sure you
go check it out.
Uh let's read some more of these
questions.
Jessica says, "Nature speaks to me. I
sense it." Hello L, yep.
Um she also says, "Same with energy
work. Church thinks energy is new age,
very empathic." Yep.
Yep, it's the same thing. Just like
Steve was saying, you know, I
you were talking about energy work being
prayer. That was the interesting thing,
too, when I first started doing
one-on-one sessions, and I do guided
meditations, and then we do breath work,
and we really tap into the spirit
together, and we go in deep and deep in
the trance, and I'm able to see things
moving around. It's energy work. There's
different names for it, right? But, it's
all the same thing. The interesting
thing was early on when I started
advertising that I was doing that, and I
charged for a session for a one-on-one.
Um the church folks were like saying,
"Truthseeker's charging for prayer."
And it's like, "Hold on, you're getting
a lot more than just prayer." But, like,
"We're going to pray."
Every breath is a prayer.
Prayer is just connecting, it's
communing, it's speaking blessings.
There's so many aspects of it. And we're
going to tap into all of it. So, that
was something interesting, but is is
there again where the the lines crossed?
True seeker is charging people for
prayer. Listen, it's it's a lot more
than just let me pray for you, my
friend. Like we're going in and we're
going in deep, right? We do this with
group sessions. We do this on Thursday
nights even with our school of the
mystics. If you want to be a part of
that, going in through through breath
work. But, um
all the similarities, they're definitely
there. And so, yeah, we're going to be
praying. It's
you know, how could we not? You know
what I'm saying?
Um
Claymore says, I'll pay for it also.
But, honestly, uh if you sign up
through that link uh that's in my in my
bio, I I do get credit for it. So, they
do give me a kickback for everybody who
signs up. So, sign up through that link
and get a free download and I actually
do get a kickback like you bought the
book. And you don't even have to pay for
anything just for signing up. They uh
hook you up.
So,
yeah, anybody have any questions, let me
know and I'll try to get to them for a
few more seconds.
Jessica says, I'm new here. You have
CDs. I'm not sure if you're talking
about me or Steve, but yeah, we both do.
Allie says she wants to start a
uh place in the
a healing center in the south, for sure.
Truth
truth center.
For sure.
So, yeah, make sure y'all get that. Um
one of the things as well uh I wanted to
talk about
much as I can is just talking about the
energy healing in the music and how it
goes back to the church.
Um the early churches and the cathedrals
were built in such a way where they were
built to allow the sound
to carry and resonate through the whole
building. And it and and they would use
the sound to get high. They would use
the sound to heal themselves and to
facilitate OBEs, out-of-body
experiences. That they would go deep
into trance as they're coming to these
big churches and they're going into some
of us would call it worship, but a lot
of it was just focused on the music at
that point. These big cathedrals as they
would play these pipe organs,
the
um
um music and sound would
reverberate through the whole place and
make people feel different. They would
It would heal them.
Um
there was even stories about people who
were like fighting to see where they
were going to sit in the church. Like
they would sit in the middle so that
when the sound carried it would come
back and there were certain places that
were more potent uh for them to sit in
the church. And then we look at some of
the uh
Gregorian chants and stuff like that.
And there's a bunch of them, especially
going into some of the uh well, so some
of the Greek chants and uh Italian as
well. The Gregorian chants that were all
all of these monks and and uh Jewish
mystics that would would chant even in
in the Catholic stuff. When we talk
about
the Christian mystics, you you can't
overlook
the Catholic faith cuz a lot of them
came had to come through that. That's
where they were. Like that was so the
church right for a period of time. So um
there's a lot of Christian mystics that
have came through the Catholic faith and
they have stories upon stories upon
stories of all of these crazy other
worldly things of people levitating and
um leaving their bodies and stuff like
that. Steve mentioned some of the books
that were taken out of the Bible.
There's a There's a handful of them that
talk about leaving your body and
traveling to heaven.
And some of these books were taken out.
I wonder why?
It's these books and and and secrets
things that that um empower you and they
they leave it out, you know, because you
don't need them anymore.
And so now we see religion as something
that you need, even some of the early
Catholic stuff where like the the people
who who weren't privy to read the
scriptures. Like you had to have the the
priest read it to you. You weren't even
allowed to read it. I think even like a
lot of the
like slave owners and stuff would would
teach the slaves the scriptures, but
they wouldn't allow them to learn to
read to read it for themselves. They
just had to tell them what it said, and
then therefore you're getting a skewed
view of it. But the the beautiful thing
now is we have the access to go freely
into the scriptures and to go straight
to God for ourselves. We don't need a
middleman. We didn't need those priests,
right? We didn't need those people
telling us what to do. That God would
write his law upon our hearts so we can
go directly to him.
That's the cool thing.
So, I'm going to go ahead and jump off
of here, man. Thank you guys for hanging
out with me. Again, if you want to be
part of our Thursday night School of the
Mystics, we're doing that each and every
Thursday night 7:00 p.m. And it's called
School of the Mystics, but don't feel
like you're like
if you missed one or something that you
have to come you have to catch them all.
Listen, that it's different every week,
whether we're doing some teaching,
whether we're tapping into breath work
or whatever, even just hanging out for
some cool conversation, but it's going
to be good. If you're looking for
like-minded people, make sure you join
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Um that if you want to talk to me, if
you want to hang out, if you want to
pick my brain, hit me up on Discord.
That's where I'm at. I always have it
pulled up while I'm working here, and uh
we get in there, we listen to music, and
chat, and encourage one another, tell
jokes, all that cool stuff. You look for
like-minded people. We're trying to
build community here, man.
It's what what about. You're not you're
not by yourself. You're not alone.
There's people out there just like you.
We're taking that excuse away. That's
the one of the biggest things that the
enemy tries to do is try to separate
you, make you feel like you're the only
one who believes this, the only one
who's experienced this, and it's a lie.
There's a lot of people out there just
like you.
And I'm just now finding that out just a
couple years in of these There's
Christians who are into these deep
things and the mysteries and stuff.
Maybe they weren't vocal for a period of
time. Maybe I was vocal first about a
lot of it. Maybe it it opened them up to
now be more vocal, but uh you're
starting to see things come full circle
now, and hard work is paying off. Don't
give up. Love y'all. We'll do it again.
Peace. Peace.
Your ways are so much higher than mine.
So much higher than mine.
So much deeper than mine.
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