Arianna Armour joins TruthSeekah in this episode of The TruthSeekah podcast as they talk about her testimony after living 11 years as a transgender man and finding her true identity as a daughter of God!
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Arianna Armour | From Transgender 2 Transformed | TruthSeekah Podcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Izv87sY-k Transcript source: YouTube captions won't you come come and take me away i just wanna be with you won't you come come and take me won't you come streaming live at truthseeker.com your source for spiritual and inspirational music teachings and media this show is designed to help you grow in your walk with christ and advance the kingdom of heaven and now your host truth seeker ladies and gentlemen what's up i'm true seeker this is the truth seeker podcast i'm excited and delighted to be with you guys as always we got another amazing talk we're gonna go in we're gonna talk about it all leave no stone unturned that's what we do shout out to everybody holding us down in the chat with the live stream facebook periscope youtube d live is a big one and uh in twitch wherever you guys are listening shout out to you guys so if you guys have any questions or anything like that 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so guys without further ado we're gonna go ahead and jump into today's conversation my guest today is ariana armor ariana welcome to the truthseeker podcast my friend how are you i'm great how are you doing uh doing well doing well excited to pick your brain and and and talk to you this morning and you hear about your story and just whatever else we can we can get into so it's gonna be good amen thank you for having me i'm super excited yeah so obviously i found out about you through through daniel daniel uh adams and the supernatural life and following his work and he's a good friend of mine and um i've i've seen a lot of the videos when you first kind of came onto the scene and that kind of stuff and then going out and doing ministry and getting born again and then stepping out to share your own story and all of that in your transformation and so i've been following your stories in and i remember even on tick tock just kind of scrolling as we do on tick tock and then seeing your videos and say oh i know her i know her i got to follow and make sure i like all of her videos you know so um yeah i've been keeping up with you and and and the work that you're doing and so super proud of you um for those who don't know who you are what you bring to the table if you want to start with your story and background and just kind of give an introduction about what you do okay so hi guys my name is ariana armor um my story is pretty unique i have a pretty crazy testimony um i'm mostly well known as the girl who went from transgender to transformed as he said and it's been pretty crazy to be honest but i ended up coming to the ministry and that's how i met daniel a couple years ago and um like i said there's so much that we'll talk about going going forward here but um being part of of the work of the lord and being part of god's kingdom is something that i never thought i'd be doing and all of a sudden i'm here doing it um even being able to share my story with you guys is such a privilege and an honor to be able to just say hey jesus christ saved my life and this is how he did it so as far as my testimony goes i'd love to share that with you um like you said we just we have a lot to talk about so i can oh i can open with that if that's okay with you yeah that's great yeah okay yeah all right so um for those of you who don't know um i was actually in the lgbt community for 16 years my birth parents were drug addicts and so i ended up being passed around home to home until somebody eventually adopted me and i was around three years old when i was first adopted i was adopted into a christian family it was more religious though it wasn't really you know holy spirit power of god you know it was just in that religious box and they didn't really live out the christian walk so i didn't have the best example growing up of who jesus was but i always you know went to church every sunday i knew who god was and i knew that he loved me you know um in church though when i was four years old at vbk is actually when i realized that i was dealing with same-sex lust and it was just mind-blowing to me to be four years old because at that age you're too young to know you know right and wrong is this okay like whatever so i genuinely believe that i was born that way because that was all my human logic could comprehend that's what made sense to me and i remember being in church school and this girl walked in and you know i had my dress on i had my heels on and i remember as soon as i saw her i hated the fact that i was a girl and i even questioned myself i said god why did you make me this way she's not gonna like me if i'm a girl and being four years old how did i know that that wasn't right already you know that wasn't introduced to me and so i remember slumping down in my chair hoping that this girl wasn't looking at me and i just remember that voice she's not gonna like you because you're a girl you know you're in the wrong body all these thoughts and that's where it started out so moving from there at the age of seven is when i transferred schools and i came out as openly gay to my friends in school i started wearing boys clothes i would throw tantrums when my parents would try to make me wear a girl's clothes i wanted nothing to do with it and back then this is probably like 2007 um in yeah 2007 when i was in the second grade it wasn't like it wasn't like super awful to be openly gay it was a long time ago but it wasn't also totally accepted either especially for a seven-year-old to just say hey guys i'm gay you know um so i dealt with a lot of bullying in school and um even even at home i know that might sound strange to some of you but growing up in a religious household in the lgbt community can be very difficult and for me it was my parents always loved me but again it was you're an abomination you know you're going to go to hell all those things you've got the church looking at you sideways people are whispering about you and you just feel totally outcast and you know tossed aside and so i grew up with that throughout middle school and into high school even just kind of dealing with my identity not knowing who i was not sure why god would make me this way because i genuinely believe that he did around 14 was when i really started going downhill and i remember i was struggling with my identity so much that it was like i put on a different face with different people you know and i was trying to fit in and i wanted to be accepted because of all the rejection and abandonment and stuff from my past i just really wanted to be accepted by everybody and anybody and i ended up putting on so many different identities that i forgot who i was and uh around 14 is when i started dealing with depression suicidal thoughts self-harm you know pretty much everybody's dealt with those things too my parents didn't know how to help me um and they didn't they didn't encourage me to turn to god in fact my parents no hate mom and dad if you guys are watching i love you guys but i gotta share my story um my parents the rejection from them is something that pushed me farther away from god because as a christian you're meant to represent christ but they weren't being the best example and that's something that i just said you know what if this is god i don't really want anything to do with it so i ended up getting into the universe in a higher power and i ended up on a lot of medications in a lot of mental hospitals being baker acted for all types of stuff even stuff that i didn't have but they just didn't know what else to do and i remember feeling like there was no way out of this and it had nothing to do with my sexual orientation either it was just me i just wasn't okay and i wasn't happy and i remember screaming for help in a way that people could see it you know when it came to self-harm i was the person that that would do it on the the outside of my arm so people could see and not one person asked me if i was okay you know and that's something that hurt a lot too um going into high school i ended up getting into a serious relationship with a female and that was a six-year relationship and again i was just looking for love i was looking for acceptance i just needed something you know and uh that was a total downward spiral because i should have been going to the lord the one who knows me the one who formed me but i was going to everything else you know women parties you know everything we do in school and it wasn't working so while i'm in this relationship all these these things start bubbling up inside of me and just anger rage violence i was i was just so upset at my parents and so angry with god and so rejected by the church that i took all of that out on the people who were trying to love me and i ended up damaging other people along the way and that's something that i've learned is that if you don't know the one who loved you you can't who first loved you you can't love somebody else and so it got really bad i ended up dealing with obsession you know like i don't know if you guys have ever seen the the tv show you or like just those movies where somebody is like super stalker like that me in high school and um i had to get you know um one of those not like a restraining order but i was in high school so you know you go to the dean's office and they tell you stay away from this person i was so bad it was so bad and i remember i identified myself with the joker like you know heath ledgers that's the one that i grew up on and i identified with him i had i had put um the joker tattoos underneath these ones these ones are actually cover-ups and i put the joker on my softball jerseys and i dressed like him and that's the identity that i took over for a long time and it totally destroyed my mental it destroyed everything um sorry if i'm babbling no you're good you're good okay okay just making sure so uh anyway fast forward through high school i graduate and then right outside of graduation is when i realized that i was female to male transgender and i don't know how that happened i just remember waking up one day feeling like okay i'm in the wrong body i don't like the way i look something is off and you know i had those thoughts growing up i just didn't you know do something about it so i legit went to the hospital and usually there's a process that you have to take to start your transition but for me it was instant for some reason i went in the same day i left with the hormones that were going to change my body um and so i started taking hormones um that day ended up taking them for two years i live my life as a man as james dakota harley i took on the name of james for my birth father and i took on dakota and harley were actually my dogs from a long time ago but they they were close to my heart you know um and my parents obviously were not accepted of it they didn't accept it but they loved me anyway um and things got really difficult after that in my household that ended up being kicked out of my household which there will always be a debate about that but that is what happened and ended up staying with a different ex but i just like i said i was so angry and so damaged and so broken that i took out anger on this person as well and so i remember you know i got into an argument with her and she didn't deserve any of it at all but i realized i'm so broken nobody should have to deal with this so i literally packed my stuff and i i left i started walking ended up taking a train to virginia and i was just like god like i don't know what else to do i need you i'm alone like that was it for me and so i head to virginia and on this train i start talking to people who who were getting touched by my journey somehow and when i got there i expected somebody to meet me and pick me up and i'd be living with them and they totally just ditched they did not show up at all so i'm literally walking on the side of the highway getting dark it's really cold in virginia i don't know how many guys live up north or from up north but it is cold up there and when i got there i hit my knees on the side of the highway and i was like god i'm alone i'm scared i have nowhere to go i need your help mind you i'm still a man at this point still living my life as a man and literally seconds later a car drives by and they give me food and water another car stops gives me 40 bucks in cash and then another car stops and it was a police officer and he ended up taking me to a shelter where i lived in virginia for a couple of months on my own and that's where i really grew close with god and it wasn't in a church it had nothing to do with the building or god's people i encountered god out there alone a couple months go by i come back and then i you know i'm with daniel and i remember i was at this gym and this girl invited me to go to the church and i was like nah like it's not for me i don't belong there god doesn't want somebody like me in his church but i ended up going anyway because i thought she liked me and i thought it was a date so yeah yeah i was trying to finesse um but i went and when i tell you this was like nothing i've ever seen before i mean you got people speaking in tongues people are getting touched by the holy spirit demons are coming out of people and other than that i just felt the presence of god and i expected to be judged i expected sideways glances i expected people to be you know rude to me but not one person said anything to me when they knew i was transgender and they even respected my pronouns at the time they called me he him they called me james even though they knew biologically i was female and that's what stood out to me that's what got my attention about that church and so literally i'm standing there listening to daniel you know how daniel is very radical um and i'm just like in awe about the way that he's speaking and he looks directly at me and he starts saying things to me that he shouldn't know because i've never met him before and that's when i knew that god was speaking to me he's like you've been rejected you've been kicked out you're lgbt hey do you play music are you a musician and i'm like like how does he know this so i start listening in and he calls me up there and when he touched me like my whole body starts trembling and i felt the the power of god the first time i encountered jesus and that's why i always tell people it wasn't a verse that changed my life it wasn't you know somebody preaching at my head i encountered him i felt him i hit my knees that day and i surrendered my life to jesus and that wasn't the day that my life changed though that wasn't the day that i went from transgender to transform right right it wasn't like that it wasn't like that at all i was still transgender still james yes still james and so i began my walk with jesus i began my relationship with him and i used to journal i still do i used to journal all the time and recently i was looking through some of my old journals and how i was feeling and i remember telling god god i need a wife god you know just you know i need this i need that and i was still james and so looking back on it now i knew that god loved me regardless of my sexual orientation he loved me regardless of what i was going through as long as we love him he's going to embrace us with open arms and so in this walk with with my relationship with christ it wasn't an instantaneous thing in it and being transgender wasn't the first thing god removed from my life um anyways a couple months go by after that and i remember i was living in an apartment with my ex and i was praying to god in the closet in my prayer closet and i was like god why am i not seeing breakthrough why am i not you know why are things not changing for me i'm going to church i'm reading your word i'm thinking everything's going right but i'm still not totally happy i'm i still feel kind of the same way i felt before and so right when i said that god gave me a vision and he spoke to me in my closet and i'm gonna share with you what he said so brace yourselves okay and please guys have an open heart okay just have an open heart god speaks to me and in this vision there is a man and a woman on one side and then there's a lion and there's a man and a man and a woman and a woman and the man and the woman they have a baby they're like glowing it's glorifying god the baby grows up they have another baby you know life continues that way and then the man and the man and the woman and the woman there's this black line underneath and it's just dead there's nothing there and so i'm looking at this thing like just in front of my face i'm looking at it and then god speaks and he says i made men and woman so that you can recreate and share the good news of my son jesus christ and i said yeah i heard that my whole life tell me something i don't know that was a mistake cause god's voice let me tell you his voice booming like thunder he said stop talking and listen and i'm like okay like i'm sorry like i'll just listen to you so i just listen to what he has to say he continues he says if the devil can convince somebody man or woman little boy or a little girl that they are in the wrong body that they are lesbian homosexual whatever along those lines he said not only is the devil going against my will because the devil's will is always against god's will but he said the devil is wiping out entire family bloodlines and generations of people that i intended to be born will not exist for my glory so when he said that to myself i was thinking how many people aren't walking this earth because of the choices that mankind makes you know so many people god you know why aren't you curing cancer why are you stopping world hunger why this and i just thought what if god wanted to but that person was never born and i thought what if i'm supposed to give birth to the person that's going to cure cancer but if i live this way i can't do that you know so then he says if you continue down this road you will not meet the man that i designed for you and you will not have the kids you're supposed to have i take a step back and i start thinking to myself okay this is the man that god designed for me to be with while i'm on this earth what's his life going to be like without me in it and then if i don't meet him we're not going to have our the kids that god wants to create and they will not be able to fulfill the purpose that he wants to use them for and in that moment i just realized how selfish i was being living for me me me how i felt what was me my life sucks and i wasn't ever really reaching out to jesus after he said that there was this this fire like this fiery blanket around my my my arms i just felt his love and he said i love you no matter what you choose but you have to choose and in that moment i said god i don't know how you're going to make a lesbian um straight i don't know how you're going to make me want to wear girls clothes i said god i just got a new job yesterday as a man and i'm supposed to go back there as a woman the next day i would i said god i'm scared i don't know how you're going to do it i said i surrender and in that moment i'm telling you it was just like it was that was life-changing that was the moment where i made that choice to go from transgender to transformed so the next day we had church service and daniel's preaching and i asked him i said daniel i've heard about the jezebel spirit but i don't really know much about it can you tell me more the entire time he's talking about this demonic spirit my body is like trembling and shaking uncontrollably and i realized that i had this demonic spirit and that it wasn't me that was afraid it was this demon inside of me knew it was about to leave my life and for anybody who does not know jezebel is the demonic spirit behind sexual immorality you can read that in first kings and revelations 2 20. um everything sexually immoral including homosexuality um so literally after daniel's talking i got scared i changed my mind i said god i can't do this and i turned around to leave you know daniel hey yo where are you going i was like god's not gonna let me leave so i was like daniel i wanna be deliberate of homosexuality everybody circles around me they anoint their hands and they start praying over me i start shaking like worse and i hit the floor because i can't control my body at this point tears are coming out snot's coming out i'm like ah and it wasn't me this demon was manifesting inside of me which i never experienced before before that and i opened my mouth and usually i know most people when they see deliverance it's like totally crazy demons are going crazy but it wasn't like that for me this demon wasn't going crazy i just opened my mouth and it left as a breath like it left like that and so while i'm on the floor i'm like god why did it leave like that and god said because the demon inside of you got tired of putting up with the god who lives in you and i was like okay so this demon was tired it just surrendered and left i was like all right i get up off the floor and it's like i forgot the last 13 years of my life as a homosexual it was like like the veil was removed it was just and i was set free that day daniel commissioned me into the ministry i became a part of the supernatural life not just watching it on youtube but i every door flew open now i'm going out in the harvest field and praying for people i'm casting out demons i'm seeing signs and wonders living out the gospel and this was that one thing that stood in my way and i remember telling people if i knew that this one sin was the thing that was holding me back i would have let it go years ago i really would have but i didn't know and so now um pretty much what i'm doing is is living out the gospel and i'm not saying that it's easy i'm not saying that i'm perfect because i'm not i'm not and i have so much to talk about but just that's that's pretty much what happened yeah that's an amazing story um thank you she's still writing a lot of people in the chat uh adriana said this is heartfelt um uh flor florence gentry says so joyful to hear this um so it is amazing i'm super excited for you and uh and and having your story uh and we'll talk about that a little bit too but uh can you talk a little bit about that the same-sex attraction leaving or what happened with that because we hear so much stuff about that i've had people on here who say that that never leaves you know you just gotta fight against it your whole life and you have to take a vows of of celibacy or you get into or act like you're you know attracted to the opposite sex what happened with same-sex attraction in in with your story okay so i'm glad you asked me that um i'm going to talk about that on my channel as well because that is a huge question that many people have um and so i haven't even talked about this yet i have not made that video of same-sex attraction so i'm glad that i'm doing it right now with you um when i talk about same-sex attraction i don't refer to it that way the way that i explain things is this attraction is normal everybody looks at everybody everybody has attractions whether it's you know man woman whatever um i refer to this as same-sex lust the reason being is because you can't control who you're attracted to but you can control what you do with that attraction okay so if a straight man sees a woman he finds her beautiful it doesn't matter how much he tries to say nah she's ugly nah like whatever he still thinks she's attractive he does get to decide if he's going to act on that attraction or if he's going to resist temptation and walk the other way and that's when it becomes lust and so the same thing goes with with you know homosexuality whether you're lesbian or gay if i see a woman and i find her beautiful that's totally okay if i find her attractive that's normal that's fine that doesn't make me a lesbian what makes me a lesbian is when i decide to go up to that girl when i decide to go up to that girl and make out with her face or have sex with her and same thing goes with the man if if a dude's like yo he's a good looking dude that don't make you gay what makes you gay he's going to bed with him yes yes so attraction is not the problem lust is the problem and straight people deal with lust too the same way that homosexuals deal with lust okay it is a choice whether we choose to act on our temptations or not everybody has temptations the devil has no favorites and neither does god we all have these temptations we all struggle with lust to some degree but it's up to you to decide what you do in that moment of hey i find this person attractive that's the way that i explain it and god is not calling us to heterosexuality he's calling us to holiness everything else will follow so when we think of same-sex attraction or same-sex lust homosexuality is just one leaf on the tree of sin there's so much sin it's not just this one um and god's not looking at one leaf he wants to uproot all of it from your life so keep that in mind it's not just this one thing it's so much and you need to ask yourself hey if i was straight would i be perfect or would i still be sinning in other areas you know would i still be drinking and partying and you know what i mean it's not just the one cent so with that being said um this whole time was you ever attracted lustfully if you will to men or is this something that's that's new or has it always been there and you just never acted on it it was like where's that relationship with you for the attraction or the lust towards men if that's what we're gonna talk about okay um so i've always found men physically attracted and i had boyfriends but it was never serious and i was using men back then to cover up my homosexuality to my parents which was wrong um but i've always found men physically attractive my problem was that i could never emotionally or romantically connect with a man so i would always see you know straight relationships and be like why like how are the how is this girl feeling that for this man like they're so in love and how come i could never attach to a man like that and it had nothing to do with the man himself so do i find men attractive yes have i always found men attracted yes even when i battled with pornography i found men sexually attractive too so it wasn't that that the man was the problem it was deep-rooted issues in my heart and in my soul that i never dealt with and i realized when i asked god to reveal that to me because the question you asked me i asked him i said why was it like that it was deep issues i had father issues my birth father abandoned me and my adopted dad was a very quiet man so and and all the men that i've been around were jerks you know i i grew up watching all of my straight friends be cheated on and lied to and abused and you know it just created that barrier between me and any man that was trying to show me love so it wasn't anything to do with physical or sexual attraction towards the man it was deeper stuff yeah um it's interesting i've i've had again different people on here sharing their stories and they talk about there's a difference that they're between uh same-sex attraction or same-sex lust and versus um what did they call it um sexual uh um like immorality not immoral what do you call it um orientation well yeah yeah so basically they said you could be delivered from one like the but but the other is natural that you can never just like change your mind or be attracted to the to the opposite sex if if you were born that way kind of thing that you can't pray pray the gay away as far as your orientation because you were born naturally attracted to the same sex and you can you can no you know no matter how much much praying you do it doesn't go away but they talk about you know sexual uh immorality and and uh and a lot of different stuff that comes through her and through abuse and if that's how it came then you can change it because it was through molestation it was through yeah you know i was done wrong by men my whole life so now there's this this angst against men and that kind of thing that could be healed but from from childhood that that can't be healed but you're saying that both of them could be healed i am saying that yes jesus christ can heal you and deliver you from your same sex lust i'm i don't say attraction because again attraction is a normal thing i refer to it as a lust problem and it's the same way as god could deliver a straight man if he is constantly sleeping around with women and he decides he wants to be free from that jesus can do that the same way he can do that with a lesbian or a gay man um and when it comes to you know us you know praying the gay away and stuff i heard that too growing up and that was something that frustrated and triggered me because you can't pray the gay away only god can deliver you but you have to be open to receiving that you have to put your self aside and humble yourself and say god i need your help and a lot of people do ask me ariana i've prayed i've prayed i've prayed and nothing changes nothing happens then you need to ask yourself do you really want to be free from that because if you like your sin if you enjoy your sin no matter what sin it is you can't be set free you know um so yeah that's the way that i would explain that i mean it even goes deeper like you said the way that it comes in some people get molested or raped or childhood trauma that can definitely bring about um same-sex lust but in order to find out where the root of your problem is you have to go to the one who knows when it happened because some people forget some people don't know they've buried it yeah yeah they just think it's normal and again i used to believe that i was born that way too because i was so young that's what made sense to me but we're not born that way and we can't be born that way because we are created by a holy god we are born into sin yes we are all born sinners but then if you want to play on that aspect homosexuality is not the only sin so then you could say oh well then we must be born liars we must be born alcoholics we must be born murderers because these are all sins but we're not born that way we are all born with a god-created identity and a god-given value but the enemy comes to steal kill and destroy he wants to steal your identity from you and so that's why we need to rely on the lord if we believe the lies of the devil then it's going to be your reality you know if i believe i'm a problem then i'm going to be a problem if i believe i'm a homosexual then that's going to manifest into my reality if i believe i'm an alcoholic but those are all lies because that's not what god says about you that's what the enemy is saying about you you know that's good um you have a tick tock um and you i would say you went viral on tick tock you was getting a lot of views millions of views i would say a lot of subscribers and a lot of conversation was happening through your tick tock that that you were facilitating did your channel get banned was your tick tock taken away and um that's interesting because every single day i actually get a notification from tick tock saying you've been banned from posting up until this date and then when that date comes another one until this day they keep pushing it you know so i can't post that's why you have not been seeing content how many followers do you have on tick tock i think right now it's around 142 000 okay because i was i was trying to find it yesterday i couldn't even find it in search with your name who knows i haven't been on ah man they did permanently ban it once but i guess my followers attacked them and they gave it back to me an hour later so um i i assume the reason is that people get offended by what i say and you know they must be getting so many complaints that they decide to ban me or postpone it um all i can say to that is that if you really watch my tick tocks i've never said a hateful thing to the lgbt community how could i because i was you you know um but people do get triggered either way so i believe that that's probably why yeah um so i mean what has been your dialogue with them or i mean obviously i mean some would say you know i'm saying live your life and then hey you that's your truth or whatever but you find that most of them get mad and try to negate your story or you wasn't really gay to begin with and you just start whatever you were you get all of these things people trying to explain your your story away because you're not one of them anymore like you was one of us they loved you they embraced you right or died but now that you have a change of heart now you're a foreigner you never was us to begin with kind of thing you know which happens with a lot of movements anyway so yeah that's exactly yeah that's you literally said the same thing that happened to me so um i find that interesting that when you're a part of that community it's it's like we're we're in this together because we've all been rejection and abandonment we're all outcasts so we've now created this community where we can be free together um and i was in that my entire life but then when god changed my life and i started to testify about it i heard the same things you said you were never trans if you can if you can change it you know whatever all these things um and to that i just let it ride if people want to say those things they can say whatever it doesn't change what god did for me it doesn't change what happened to me all i can do is welcome them into a conversation and say hey if you feel this way let's talk about it you know but on tick tock they're just one minute videos so people see me for 60 seconds instead of getting to know my story and what really happened yeah well that's a little bit different on youtube as well now right because you're you're it seems like you're focusing some attention on your youtube videos and telling your story that way which seems to be growing and stuff as well right yeah yeah i actually um i was wondering how uh when i first became transgender transformed i was just wondering how god wanted me to reach that community um and he just said put your testimony out there so i made a movie and i put it out there and here we are today yeah yeah i was watching some of that too again it's so strange to uh i remember posting a video a couple years ago of of this guy it was very similar to the video that that or the the talk that you did with with someone um he was probably 70. it was like a 17 uh year old guy who uh lived the majority of his life as a transgender woman and got you know eyeliner tattooed and i think lipstick tattooed and he's 70 years old at the end of his life and talking about how miserable he was and and and now he's he's you know found christ and he set free from that lifestyle to embrace his identity as who god created him and i remember sharing that and that and get i got hate for sharing it like people saying that this man's story wasn't valid like yeah you got to honor people's people's story man and just because it goes against your narrative or against what you believe or whatever the case is then we try to negate it all but it's like listen this is his story you can't take that away from that individual um and you had an interview like that as well you talked to someone i believe was in their 60s that was a lesbian woman yeah yep she was uh in that community for 6 59 years i just encourage you guys to watch it too much to explain now but um she found my testimony somehow and we were at crane's roost evangelizing and she just said hey i've been trying to get delivered and i was just praying for healing for her leg to get healed and all of a sudden the jezebel spirit manifests and i had to deliver cast out those demons uh in the park and so her life started to change from there so yeah wow and then she sat down with an interview to do an interview with you and just open up about a story yeah what is it about about confession do you think like when people vocalize or own their story right versus like trying to hide and don't hope nobody knows that i'm really this way right then the light of christ you right if he is in the light if if we walk in the light as he is in the light you know and finding healing and stuff that way what is it when we we own our story for the light or for the darkness right because those people own their story even maybe you know some people would say it was a false narrative or they've been lied to or they've been tricked or deceived they own it and so there's a sense of empowerment whenever you own it yeah um confession is a very important thing um you can't get freedom if you don't tell god what you what you've done wrong and so when you confess it god says there's power of life and death in your tongue so when you confess it openly to your brothers and sisters and to god that's when the freedom can come and so when you own your story there's this sense of freedom that you know what i did this yeah that was me and the people who try to come at you with your past it holds they can't say nothing to you they'll try to but you're so free that you own that now and whether you are you know a christian or not if you simply own that nobody can say anything the devil included because that's what the devil wants you to believe he wants to make you hide everything to make you feel ashamed and guilty and the truth is when you confess it you're gonna get other people who say i've been through that too i just didn't say anything because no one else said anything and they get free from you testifying about it you know so that's why it's really important for us to be open about our stories not only for us to get freedom and healing from jesus but also your story will set others free you know and that's what the enemy doesn't want he wants people to stay bound and in chains um i remember and a lot of people do somewhere maybe in the 2000s mid-2000s where we begin to see a lot of gay characters on in cartoons and in sitcoms and they were always happy and um and there was always like a main character who was gay who told the best jokes and was like i said always happy and as you may have seen one or two like a show like will and grace where there was only you know one gay couple or you know maybe the first gay television show with burton ernie being a homosexual couple on tv really just joke oh my god maybe but um do you do you think that there was an uh agenda because a lot of people talk about like a homosexual agenda a transgender agenda to push this stuff through hollywood and through the cartoons and to kind of make it normal and to change your logo you know and it seems like you get eyes like you get you get you know i'm saying a camaraderie behind you that we stand with the lgbt community but it almost seems like like there's been this agenda most people say you're you're stupid this has just been oppressed people and there is no agenda hollywood doesn't care about your sexuality but it's like this huge influx in entertainment with with shows that kind of cater to this do you think that this is a conspiracy some people would say to go back to the vision that you had that the enemy wants to step in with population control let's make the people gay so that they quit populating you know so that you know that kind of being a part of the the agenda but is that something that's real or just christians and straight people being paranoid no no you're right on the money especially when you just said that about you know the vision that god gave me again god has proven to us in his word but he spoke to me and said it himself the enemy is always against god so if god says yes the enemy says no if god says man and woman the enemy says men and men and women and women because god said as man and woman our purpose is to take care of the earth the animals and to reproduce but the enemy's opposite so if we go woman woman man man we can't do that that's what it is it's spiritual warfare we're in a war zone out here you know and it's always the opposite with the with the enemy and with god so i 100 do believe that there is an agenda that the world has been pushing um but it doesn't surprise me it shouldn't surprise anybody who's watching this right now either because as we know the earth is the world is is the devil's playground you know you grow up in the world but then you have to decide if you're gonna leave the world to become a child of god or if you're going to stay in it so if you are living as a part of this world it's your normal and that's what i grew up in that's why i didn't understand anything that christians were saying to me and i didn't want to but now as you said you know you see on tv you're seeing it in cartoons people are messaging me ariana have you seen they're putting uh hormone blockers in baby formula they're putting um you know just crazy stuff and i'm just like like god like what is going on out here and i know it's a spiritual thing a hundred percent i've been through it but seeing it as somebody who went through it now on the outside like you said i was part of it and now i'm not being on the outside of it i just i see the damage that it's doing and if you look on it on a different perspective when it has nothing to do with your sexuality it's just you can see all over the world the way that the enemy is destroying people in many different ways you know so but when we talk about the industry entertainment has been just bombarded by the enemy straight up you see people growing up you know you watch those shows and people are you know as they're teenagers they're happy they're full of light and joy and their inspirations and then a couple years later you see them just they look dead inside and then their inside matches their outside and they look dead on the outside too and you're just like what happened to this person it's that's what it does because people sell their souls for money or fame and and with that comes destruction of your spirit and the spirit of many others so i do believe a hundred percent that the enemy is using the industry is using anything that he can to push this agenda um to confuse people to keep them bound in chains a hundred percent yeah um let's talk i want to ask you a little bit about growth because you know i had daniel on here recently we talked about him going viral right he had something that obviously he was making an impact and and you were there before all of that happened you've you've kind of been you know with his ministry for a while and and sitting under him and um so whenever he went viral did you did you get some of that traffic as well like rp or more people finding out about you because you are linked to his ministry and you're you're part you're partnering with him so when he started getting more traffic did you start getting a little bit more traffic as well honestly when we both realized that we had gone viral we were in georgia on a revival trip and i remember it was in the morning and i just woke up and he was already awake just chilling there and i was like daniel like check your stuff like you're blowing up and then i checked my stuff and i was blowing up too so i don't know like which way it went i just know that it just we woke up one day and bang god had blessed everything and people were pouring in yeah that's awesome that's favor man that's so so cool because again i always have to point out what you were doing with what dan been doing has been uh putting in work for a long time and uh yeah and it was just you know i'm reminded of the scripture even with that whole thing and dan's with us here on youtube he says what's up guys um i'm reminded of the scripture that you know that that talks about that we can plant and and we can water and we can toil and things like that and build on the earth but it's god that gives that increase you know in your life in every area of your life whether it's whether it is uh i would say fame fame kind of comes with it right of being out there in the forefront but not really fame but just more getting eyes on what you're doing so it's it's amazing to see see what god is doing with with the supernatural life and the many facets of the supernatural life now with that uh i'm starting to see a lot more of this and daniel is and there's some people who jump in the chat here um and they want to attack they want to attack right so dan's getting a lot of that now he's getting a lot of people want an attack and part of that's about people punching up like if dan was a little channel they don't you know nobody's listening to him but now there's more eyes and there's more people looking at them all of these people are coming out the woodwork giving their opinion and what they think the bible really says about his ministry and that kind of stuff do you you get a lot of that too i mean obviously just because of the the stuff you're talking about you're going to get that out the gate anyway so i don't know if there would be an influx you probably with it you've probably seen the infl influx of both because that just comes with your territory right yeah for sure i get i get a lot of hate as well just because you know everything that happened to me pushes against the agenda of the world but watching it happen to daniel is different because my story is different than his but also his channel is totally different from mine and i'm in his ministry you know he's the man of god that i'm under but watching him get all this like all this hate people put in their two cents they get offended they get triggered but daniel handles it like a champ like he he loves them but he's also stern like hey like you need to chill out like fight you not but he does like he just he tells the truth and love the way that the bible teaches us to do and so for me i listen i ain't perfect y'all when i get hate sometimes i gotta hold back my thumbs because i just want to be like oh yeah delete it you probably type it but then you delete it right that's what we all do yeah they're gonna screenshot it i know but sometimes like what would daniel say i'm like nah i can't like you know i had i had one guy um and you we get this a lot but this guy actually told me and responded to it but he had uh sent me a mean mean comment true secret you were this you were that i can't believe this i lost all respect for you bye bye i said hey man uh like what's the deal like do you want to talk what's going on oh man i really didn't mean it i just needed to get you to respond because if it was a positive comment you wouldn't have responded and i know that this negative comment got your attention i was like so all of these people are commenting and lashing out to try to get you to react i mean that's a big thing on youtube anyways reaction videos people are trying to to get a reaction maybe even what what you were doing cutting yourself and dressing a certain type of way listen i'm trying to invoke a response from you i'm trying to get a reaction i'm hurting you don't see you don't see it i'm trying to get a reaction out of you and that's what we are we're reactionary people man and but uh but but god sees our heart and he knows that he knows everything about us and uh and it's so such powerful when we bring everything to him yes there's there's a point of time where you got to bring the haters to god too god must be my haters you fight my battles for me i don't want to fight them i don't want to have to respond i don't have to god i'm bringing it to you because if not we hold that stuff on us and we begin to carry these burdens we were never meant to carry exactly you know anything under the sun that you can imagine so yeah that actually just blew my mind that somebody had did that to you because it makes sense usually we we get a lot of positive comments but for some reason it's only those negative ones and i don't know why it's like that it really shouldn't be we're gonna have to pray about that but it is and so for somebody to say i had to say this to get your attention blows my mind because now it's making me think i had gotten so much negativity that i overlooked that too now usually i'll just you know do a little heart or something yeah i would overlook it so i might go back and be like hey like you know you want to talk about it or whatever but when it comes to you know the supernatural life in daniel's ministry he he's blowing up so much that he gets tons of negativity and tons of positivity so i don't even know if he has time to read everything no there's no way there's no way um oh i know he's so busy all the time but for him it's just i believe people are 100 jealous um and offended and most of it is religious people it's usually other christians who want to sit there and just tear each other down and we're supposed to be the ones building each other up as an example to the world you know so you know they'll come at him and they'll say rude things and they'll just be complaining but they see it regardless that's what matters i believe that as long as they watch it it doesn't matter what they said the seed was still keep coming back to watch it you keep seeing those same names coming yeah that's what that's what we want you to do because you're gonna get it eventually you'll get it eventually it may take a couple years it may take a couple months it may take three i mean i get that comment a lot man i thought i misjudged you true seeker i thought you were this because you had that kind of person on i thought you were that until i heard you talk about jesus in the gospel and oh my god i was so wrong about you right it takes three or four videos of them coming back and uh and that kind of thing so that's definitely something that happens too you know yeah yeah i remember i just i just saw a post the other day on uh on katherine crick how somebody was uh posting satanic stuff in her comments and just apologized to her because she got set free and then uh for me personally i've only had one serious negative comment like that and this lady was uh she was a male to female transgender she must have gotten offended by something i said and she straight up was like you're a you're this you're that blah blah blah and i said hey let's talk about this just go watch my movie she watched it and i watched her start typing those bubbles and then she said nothing and i was like okay yeah because people don't know i've been through what they've been through you know they just judge off the bat yeah yeah yeah 100 um because if you did go through that what they went through why would you have a change of heart or how could you because it's impossible they've been told it's impossible but it's not obviously you're you're a living example of that um yeah what's some of your favorite worship music what is it with some some music that you listen to or or not just worship just music in general like what are you what are you listening to um i really like christian rap christian hip-hop i'd be out there with them bangers you know kingdom music rich 99 uh caleb gordon but i also love worship you know maverick city elevation um even christian lo-fi you know like 3 a.m vibes just chillin you know montel fish stuff like that so i'm pretty much all over the place of music nice nice um i had a donation here from romero nadia thank you so much for the super chat donation and uh they have a comment here i'm just gonna read this comment says we cover this live and our brothers and sisters in christ with the blood of jesus to push back the haters and demons of distraction be their shield jesus amen amen amen amen that's awesome um yeah i like uh i like a lot of christian rap and uh and worship music myself um you read some of your music i'm like ooh ooh thank you thank you yeah appreciate that you like bethel at all bethel music oh yeah i like battle love battle awesome good stuff who are some of the other uh preachers or ministers that you listen to oh boy um daniel's really led me to a lot of really good ones like i said he's the man of god that i'm under so i really want to pay attention to the way that he he did things to um billy graham um i haven't been able to read any of smith wigglesworth stuff but i know i'm going to uh derek prince catherine coleman and more modern stuff today just uh steven furtick uh sarah jake roberts um pretty much all over the place i like discovering new things so if i if anybody has suggestions let me know but yeah i have a lot that's awesome yeah i posted a catherine coleman uh video that that dan posted i seen it on his page but it was really good there's a lot of got a lot of people engaged with that which was really what about you what what who do you listen to um a lot of bethel actually uh bethel hill song um a lot of older christian rap you know some of the older lecrae stuff yeah um i still listen to a lot of alternative a lot of nightmares alternative just it takes me back to a simpler time and anything really from the 90s i love whether even if it's country or uh pop it doesn't matter so i love 90s music but um yeah i don't i don't listen to a lot of new music now there is some i honestly i have to be 100 honest i listen to some kevin gates some of just how real kevin gates is and with his story and owning it like i love authenticity you know what i'm saying and i love so there's some kevin gates stuff about uh entrepreneurship and being able to to make something happen when all odds are against you and there's some of that stuff that i really like too so as far as in hip-hop i listen to some kevin gates too so and i listen a little bit of everything i mean i mean collected with it you know and the weird thing about it is you know kind of becoming all things to all men and you know yeah something that would count you out oh you can't be a christian and do that or you can't be a christian in like that person or or whatever the case is and so really just destroying that that stereotype too like hey i like what i like we do what we do and there's a reason so you got so and there's a reason that the christians christian rappers try to copy kevin gates because he's got some some something that that uh that is is catchy that that people are learning from and so yeah but i like i like authenticity i'm not gonna lie to you i like that i like people who own their story um people who are vulnerable and they don't care it's i don't i'm not trying to wear a mask i don't need you to like me um i know and for me that comes in christ because i know who i am in him and uh and so i don't really need your validation or your opinions and if you like what we bring to the table awesome and uh if not then you'll get it later you know kind of thing amen but people people will always have an issue until they come to the lord and they they catch that revelation you know yeah but when it comes to music i mean even before christ i was just like you could i love music you know all over the place country rap hip-hop rock i was going through it so um favorite scripture what's some of your favorite scriptures i like i like hebrews um Hebrews 5 through 9 and i just read it the other day a lot because it really explains to you the the work that jesus did on the cross um and one that i actually got tatted on me i don't know if you guys can see it it's uh Psalms 27 10. i got that a long time ago when i was uh transgender it says though my mother and father forsake me the lord will take me in um favorite verse besides that verse that i just got tatted on me i'd say Psalms 121 the one that says i look i i raise my eyes to the hills where does my help come from my health comes from the lord the maker of heaven and earth yeah that's a beautiful scripture and i i like the uh um the one about the mother and father as well that's a big one i talk about that you know god really showed up in my life as a father you know my father walked out when i was just an infant and grew up without a father but then when i gave my life to christ i began to see god in my life as a father stepping in and says i become a father to the fatherless there's a question that we don't really get to hear a lot about but if god can be a father to the fatherless can he also be a mother to the motherless like if you didn't have a mother can god step in and nurture you through the holy spirit i think the holy spirit is the feminine aspect of god um but but is god a mother to the motherless and i think so man i really do yeah i believe that too he is it's like you know when we go to heaven we we don't need anything else but him that's all we need even here we don't need anything else but him so it's like if he was incapable somehow of providing that motherly aspect and he would have given us exactly that but he's already done it through the holy spirit and through the work of jesus christ he said it is finished so even if you are motherless you've got somebody who's able to fill that space fill every space really yeah um one thing you asked me you said you wanted to ask me and i just remembered uh about before before we went live about wanting to know how i got the podcast started and that kind of thing right and yeah i'll share that really quick uh the podcast started like in uh just through i used to be a truck driver and i would drive for like sometimes 14 15 hours a day and have these long days but i would call friends and i would have friends on the phone with me while i'm working so i'd have a four-hour drive and getting friends on the phone and and praying and rolling ideas off of each other and then we would call people on on like a three-way so we would all call different people so we would have sometimes eight or nine people on the phone back in like 2010 i mean this was from like literally 2008 to 2011 2012. even further really but what what happened was we have these beautiful discussions and we'd get deep we pray for people i mean just so much stuff was happening on the phone with our with our group and new people would join and they'd stay on the phone eight hours like while i'm driving they'd be on the phone all day with us and um it got to a point where we were like man people need to hear these conversations man people we need to record these conversations and uh because they're so edifying and we got deep we talked about experiences and just opening up and prayers and just beautiful and now we turn into bible studies as well you know and people sharing scriptures and stuff so uh i started a account with blog talk radio back in like 2010 and it was we called it a radio show and we basically held a bible study and we themed each one like okay this is crazy church experiences call in with all of the craziest weirdest church experiences because at the time me being a christian rapper i've been to hundreds of churches and it's been some weird churches and we would just like roll ideas me and the other christian rappers and we'd seen some crazy stuff and but each week we would do a different a different theme or whatever and do a bible study and people would call in and so we'd record it and we'd be live on air and all and new people were listening and joining so that's kind of how the podcast started of just having these beautiful conversations with friends and being like man more people need to hear these and branching out you know more and more and just being public with it and it's evolved into what it is today just having conversations with people and hearing their stories and asking them asking even the same questions to different people just to see you know their their life story and their opinions and stuff like that so just being open with it and it definitely was like strictly christian at first you know because it was bible study and all that but i found that i just if you know um i don't think jesus was a christian right you know just like this is only for christians like we just i'm just interested in in psychology and why are you know you are the way that that you are and especially with religion you know like uh why do you believe this that and this oh you were taught this from a child you were taught that this was god hates these people and god only loves these people and god's gonna hate you as long as you you know believe this or whatever the case is and so that's just kind of snowballed to to where i am today just being open and honest with with my story and hearing other people's story yeah so look god has blessed it very clearly you know you started from phone calls in the truck and now you're here it's become this you know worldwide thing that's amazing yeah wow so so awesome so awesome for sure um being being consistent um and and i don't know how many um uh people who are on here are um admins on the youtube but feel free to put people in timeout and ban people with the trolls and stuff because they definitely um want to be loud and have their voices heard right so so make sure you guys you guys have the ability to ban people and uh and to mute them for put them in timeout like when you're a little kid and you get out of line you just got to take a few minutes and think about what you just did so if i have any any uh admins you guys feel free to do that um there's people come out the woodwork you know i had people speaking about haters like we got to talk about it it comes with the territory um i had a guy he's probably listening now but this person had uh i would plan a live and as soon as i planned it and it would say upcoming next stream true seeker speaks to so-and-so i put it up there and it would immediately have like eight or nine dislikes 13 dislikes and no likes like almost instantly what the crap i said there's got to be a troll one one person has all those accounts and would log into each one just to click unlike before we even um go live and i was like wow one person logging into all of these accounts and eventually they told me it's like you can ban all of my accounts but i got more and i'm coming back it's like oh my god like you either have nothing better to do yeah um this is what i say because and i'll say your name unprofitable servant i i left you a comment um on one of the videos he's just kind of going at dan and he's made it his purpose to show people that error of dan's ways and dan is a false prophet and stay away he's faking it in all of those comments i don't even like addressing them but but i will just hopefully you you're hearing me now with you in the chat um like create something man create something beautiful don't be a coattail rider you riding off the back of somebody else's success stop it you can create the bible says that that a a righteous man out of the abundance and beauty of his hearts brings forth that which is good but the wicked man the evil man i'm not even calling you wicked or evil but i will say jealousy because you're punching up you're trying to jump in and and coattail rides something that somebody has worked hard to build and somebody has has showed consistency and dedication you're just trying to get a free pass by punching up create something that didn't exist instead of critiquing someone else's ministry or somebody else's beliefs as thousands of ministers millions of ministers thousands of channels even beside this video there's other videos that you can click on but you gotta it's something about this person or or whatever that you feel the need to have to drag them down to your level so i would say create something beautiful i challenge you to do it create something that didn't exist and hopefully that it would catch on that it would inspire people to live righteously that it would inspire people to seek god versus having to drag someone else's name through the mud or punch up to try to get some views or clips to your channel which is which is honestly the big thing on youtube now is reaction channels and i will say this you're having you have a reaction ministry your ministry is to react is to react to other people's stuff that they created out of nothing and you have a reaction ministry and you just critique what someone else is doing that's lame it's lame and create something that never existed try to inspire people and i'm telling you that'll pay off more in the long run you'll have longevity yeah that's right that we were literally just talking about that how how people are there's false prophet videos on daniel like people are making videos calling him a false prophet and you see a lot of ministers nowadays yeah but for me it's like like the first honor is a badge of honor for sure like yeah you know you're doing something right when the world is saying there's something wrong with you especially when you're doing it in the gospel because daniel his ministry he lives out the true gospel you know so people like you and daniel and catherine crick for some reason it's something about that kind of a ministry that triggers people and the reason being jesus says the gospel is offensive to those who are perishing so people get offended by watching someone get healed or by watching them get delivered of a demon or something that's a heart issue with them but i made a tick tock about that saying it's usually the people who are doing nothing with their lives who have the most to say about everybody else and like instead instead of just wasting your time commenting horrible hateful things why don't you start something why don't you go out there and live out the gospel instead of just sitting there critiquing everybody else's stuff then you know you there wouldn't be an issue and and i used to be that person so i can speak to it it's not like oh where's this coming from so i used to critique other ministries i used to listen we used to stand on street corners and hold up signs and name people i used to do music and drop names on these big preachers trust me i know where you're coming from um but for me it was a revelation because i used to call out preachers yeah and shout out to furman because farmer was on the street corners with me we would call out benny hen we would call out creflo dollar we would call out td jakes all of these people because of the prosperity stuff but the lord just spoke to me simple because i thought they were preaching false doctrine i thought that they were preaching tithing wrong i thought that they were money hungry and other other things too and the lord spoke to my heart and just simply said listen you want to have impact and you want to correct their false doctrine it's not to make it personal we don't wrestle against flesh and blood it's not personal if you want to correct people who are preaching tithing wrong the way to fix it is to preach it the right way don't attack it make it personal creflo dollars lying to y'all y'all need to repent get away from this man's ministry i did that that's what we we thought it was we were being powerful and effective but we wasn't and the lord said listen just do a video on the right way to tithe the pros and cons the right way to speak in tongues the right way to fast the right way to judge and in your your you know it wouldn't be any animosity behind it it wouldn't be personal and you would be knocking out two birds with one stone and that content would be evergreen you know it would always be it'd always be serving people so right amen that's that's exactly the way to do it and if you want to know if somebody is a false prophet go to the word and even if even if you feel like they are that doesn't give you any right to really just attack them straight up because if you start pulling people saying hey get off their check get off their page blah blah blah they're still learning and growing too none of us are perfect and we will never have all of the answers you know so if one video maybe they got something wrong and when they notice if they repent that's great but if you start pulling people from them what if their other videos are saving souls you know what i mean then they're not getting that either so i just say follow your convictions of the holy spirit and i believe that if somebody's a false prophet or a false preacher that person knows that they're false and god will deal with them he will do it you don't got to do nothing yeah yeah you're making it personal well it goes back to what what you said a while ago like a lot of it is it's their own heart especially when it comes from a christian perspective shouldn't you be rejoicing that the god for one the gospel is being preached you know and um and christ is being glorified people are repenting of their sins like shouldn't you at least find something to rejoice in versus finding something to complain about um but it usually comes from that that jealous spirit because yes they feel like they deserve that platform because they've been working for it they've been praying they've been studying and they've been looking for that increase and they've never found it whether they can't make good videos whether their quality sucks whatever it is but a lot of times people feel like they deserve what what you're getting and early on uh i got that a lot from from friends you know friends came out of the woodwork and was like because they felt like they deserved you know my platform or they deserve to have people watch their videos and they weren't but they were watching mine so that they would comment about false doctrine or wrong in this area and it would be do it in a public space which was yeah you know we learn from our mistakes but it's definitely untasteful for sure yeah just pray about it you know i get that too especially you know the way that what i talk about and the way that i do it most people don't like it and um i have a lot of people who who make videos about me you know she's false what she's saying is wrong and if you don't agree with it that's totally fine but if you're curious or you need clarity on why this is triggering you so much just pray about it you know i'm gonna go ahead and um block this uh user i'm just gonna put him in a timeout just like when you go in the corner sit down think about what you did you're stirring the crowd up you're bringing all the attention to yourself you're trying to hijack the chat come on like that's not cool like come on don't play you don't play well with others there's a reason you got in trouble in school is you didn't play well with others and it's showing well it's just like when we're younger the teacher says if you don't got nothing nice to say don't say it you know so we need to say it you know on youtube if you can say whatever the hell you want to say and uh you'll find an audience you'll find other people that don't like daniel you'll find other people who don't like creflo dollar and you'll share in that same respect and you become you have and you begin to be known for that yes you're known for the guy who calls people out you're known as the guy who's always correcting people you're not known as the person who's madly in love with jesus you're not known as the person whose life has been radically changed by the gospel which i'm sure somewhere that's in your story but nobody knows that all we know is what you don't like that's right what's that there's a there's a lyric in the song by casting crowns it says nobody knows what you're for only what you're against when you judge that's right all we know is what you are against we don't know what you're for so if you start speaking about what you're for we'll get what you're against because you have to be against these things if you're madly for these these other beautiful things so right amen my buddy furman he used to do street ministry with me he was there from day one he's in chat and he's he's a correctional officer now but he says in my line of work if inmates can't function prop can't function in population they get sent to lock up time yeah if you're being too loud and unruly come on man listen it's etiquette listen this etiquette with all of this even with calling somebody out i mean i'm i'm i feel like i'm calling out i don't have to say your name i don't have to be specific you know what i'm saying there's a way to do it gracefully where you're not like singling somebody out with your sermon or with your video you know kind of thing and um there's grace and there's etiquette with all of it and you guys got to learn it for sure it's a it's a lesson right exactly you're either going to bring glory to jesus or you're pretty much just complaining and glorifying yourself you know and nobody wants to sit there and hear somebody complain about their life and other people especially if you're a christian your job's not to sit here and bash everybody who's your brothers and sisters your job is to glorify jesus christ yeah well i think a lot of those people would say that no you're not my brother and sister because you preach false doctrine and that's not biblical either even if somebody was a false prophet there's still a prophet [Laughter] got god god's got it you know we don't gotta yeah all right uh thank you gavin for the for the donation as well um guys let me know if you guys have any more comments for my friend ariana today and uh and there's a lot of people talking in chat but uh let me know if you have any questions comments and i'll i'll ask them as well um so what what else is on your heart like besides this thing because there comes a time where you don't want to be known as like this is because you're going to get asked to do more interviews and you got to kind of keep repeating that story and it takes a long time and there's questions about the story the next thing you know it's an hour and a half and we've only been talking about this so we can't talk about the other things the lord's showing you in the scripture or what he's doing in your life or a beautiful revelation he's given you so we definitely want to open it up for that just to share like what else is god doing in your life versus the transgender transform thing that you won't have to be known by that thing anymore you know yeah that kind of hit me like a couple months ago i was like man like am i always going to be talking about this but if that's what god wants to use me for then have your way but i was like okay but like what about the rest of it because you know you heard my story there's so much more from adoption to you know dealing with mental hospitals and there's just so much besides lgbt in my life yeah um i just think that i think god wants to do something with me in that community um obviously he's i feel god wants to use me to show love to that community because they desperately need it um but also to break the barriers between you know rude judgmental hypocritical christians who bash on them make them feel that way and say hey you're doing the wrong way so i believe god wants to use me in that area first and then whatever else follows whether it be my you know adoption story or you know whatever else i went through he'll definitely do that but as far as every other area of my life goes i think the biggest and most important thing i want people to know is i'm not perfect i'm still learning and growing too and if what i went through can somehow help somebody else then to god be the glory you know um i don't know what god is going to do in my life i just trust him with it and that's all that matters you know that's awesome um but i did want to say something really quick because you had talked about it earlier and like it just came back to my memory we were talking about um you know when you're part of that community you get so much love but then when not you get bashed on and it just hit me um because you know that that does happen to me every single day and i made a tick tock talking about that how the biggest thing in that community is love is love and i read a tick tock and i said if love is love then a gay man should be able to say he's no longer gay because he fell in love with a woman and a lesbian should be able to say she's no longer lesbian because she's fallen in love with a man and i got a lot of hate for that because you know you can't change it or whatever it doesn't work that way and it just really opened my eyes to the agenda that's being pushed but we have to understand first that people genuinely feel this way and they don't know what to do about it the last thing they want to do though is turn to a god that his people are misrepresenting making them feel like he's angry or that he hates them or that he's rejected them somehow when he hasn't you know i don't know why that hit me just now after yeah i mean that's big though but you know for for one thing to be true and i think it is aggressive with the lgbt community cube community it is aggressive not not all of them are as aggressive um right it's the same way with any any clique or i mean even in high school when you you you're not friends with the person who was like over the click you know the crowd and you made that person mad and now all of they all hate you and you're not welcome back and they're talking gossiping about you so we've seen that in middle school high school um but it also happens what i call scenes and the lgbtq community there it's a scene there's a there's a bar scene there's a lifestyle scene there's a there's a scene the christian community there's a scene there's a church scene we go to all the churches i used to play when i did christian rap but then i did um christian metal as well we did metal music and we did a lot of underground shows and we played at churches churches and bar rooms and stuff like that and we'd have friends at all of these shows and i go to a show and even we travel out of town and the same dudes there hey man you was at the hasta today show oh yeah man i remember you and we we'd even form a camarotted camaraderie we meet up and hang out we just walked to them hey man what do you got i can't believe y'all are here too awesome man and you just meet them and you become friends there because you're in that scene i mean we even we call it a scene it's the underground metal scene the and so or you have the bar scene the church scene but once you stop going to shows and you may not listen to that music anymore i listen to more acoustic or worship music i don't listen to much metal these days then you're not really a member or part of that scene yeah and the same thing kind of happens um you know with the church realm too like you could you can let's just have a change of heart somebody had to change the heart and say well i become a muslim like i've i really resonate with muslim brothers and sisters and how they live their life and i've been accepted by them and and now you're no longer accepted by the church scene in a church scene says hey she was never a christian to begin with we know those scriptures are out there right that if you depart then you were never mind to begin with and all that so that kind of happens with whatever scene that you're in there's a drug scene if you go go do a molly every friday saturday night and you're loved by those people if you keep doing molly every friday and saturday night the moment you step away now you've become an outsider because you're not part of that scene anymore so it definitely so it it is vice versa it is compatible and if you've dealt with it before you may deal with it again so just understand that even that's a type of spirit as well yeah it's it's crazy because i even yesterday i was talking about that on on snapchat about how i always wanted to go to pride and i always wanted to celebrate it and then just yesterday i was like why are we celebrating pride like having pride for something it's like we didn't do anything other than indulging our fleshly sin and desires so i just really had to take a step back and be like why are we proud of doing these things because i wanted to be a part of that and now it's totally different and so me i'm no longer part of that community and it's like you ride with us and we cool with you but then if i say jesus changed my life oh no no no no no no we want nothing to do with you anymore and like he said my story gets written off my testimony is invalid it didn't happen crazy yeah and even like you said even in the church there's so much division in the church even it shouldn't be that way yeah i mean i say that with christians in churches but it's even denominations oh we don't believe that and we can't be friends with you anymore because you don't believe in this and that kind of thing yeah we definitely need to break down those walls for sure yeah and i think jesus did that i think he was because he was with the drunkards he was with the prostitutes he was with the tax collectors and he was with the pharisees break chopping up the word and breaking it down with the pharisees he was a people person you know people wanted to be around him until he you know stepped on their religious demons and that's kind of how it is you know in the church scene but um there's a question here uh i guess from uh from lisa and so lisa says do you believe our youth is coming out as all these different titles because it's trendy or to get attention i know we touch on this a little bit but what is the best way to approach these teens right the non-binaries the you know i have all of these different pronouns and stuff like that is it because it's trendy and it's it's a thing to do because a lot of them leave and come back and well i really wasn't that to begin with and there's a lot of exploration in you know childhood so what would you say i can't speak for everybody i believe that there's probably some people who do do that for you know attention and just to fit in because apparently this is the norm now but i also believe it's really it really is a battle with your identity that's what it really comes down to people lose you know from birth along the way of life the enemy attacks so much that people lose their identity that god gave them and so they're struggling am i this am i that i'll try this out for a while and then i'll go over here and whatever they choose to identify with in the moment is what they genuinely believe is who they are and who they're meant to be so maybe it's maybe it's because it's trendy or maybe they really do have this demonic issue that they have no idea how to solve and it's until somebody like me or or somebody or daniel or whoever speaks on it that says hey i've been through this and this is how you know god save me and me and he can set you free too whether it's lgbt or something else um and and i may i know i make people mad i try not to i'm learning myself you know what i'm saying and uh and we you know i just try to be open and honest about my my walk and it's in this offended people but it's hey it's my story i'm from the south like you know bible belt like um so it's just it's been different but i've i've even was like you know just even talking about it oh you're you're mentioning it wrong you're not supposed to say that word and a lot of things like that but um um i the choice is is strange and i've kind of equated it to just what we see with the kids and teenagers it's like when they start like whether they're trying to lash out for for help or trying to find their identity and it seems like something to try or to do and because i've seen it i've seen people say that they're non-binary or they're gender cisgender genderqueer all of this stuff and because it's big because it does get eyes on what you're doing and and um but then a year later they're just like oh yeah that was just a phase i never that was something i just tried out kind of thing and i kind of equated back to when i was a teenager we went we started going gothic we started painting our fingernails and wearing lipstick and all that kind of stuff we didn't abandon our genders we didn't know that that was an option but trust me if it was an option i probably would have done it you know when i was a teenager just for lashing out to crying out for attention you know we we tried to match the outside to look like what was happening inside i mean that's what you're getting with the cutting and the gothic kind of stuff that we were um really big into so and i don't know if that people will get mad but it's like it's almost like when you have a movement that gets hijacked once something becomes popular you're gonna get outsiders who just try it like oh yeah really what i mean how many people go to church and do the church youth group things who aren't really christian right yes we want them to stay because it'll rub off on them they'll fight they'll have an encounter right but even like singing the worship songs how many people are singing worship songs who aren't born again you know they just this is what we do when we're here kind of thing you know yeah yeah and it it falls into you know any category whether it's lgbt or even you know even straight people struggle with you know phases or identity things too so it could be people are trying it on like you said or they could have a deeper issue but only that person would really know and if they're open enough to talk about it to others or just confess it to god then we'll find out along the road yep and um people are talking about rebuking and the etiquette to rebuke and and saying after uh after paul rebuked peter peter accepted it because he was wrong peter then writes about paul in his letters about paul's letters how to unders it's hard to understand for some yeah but you gotta understand those guys were friends yeah those guys were friends in the ministry and uh and you know that wasn't their only interaction was just correcting each other wouldn't that be weird like that's not that's not a franchise i'm not going to want to be around you every time i look look come like you're just picking my flaws apart and calling me out like there's etiquette to this stuff man you wait for an opportunity you wait for an opportunity if somebody's wrong you need to bring correction there's a right and a wrong way to do it they're coming off brash and loud and pointing fingers come on man what if somebody did that to you what if they do it to you and you say well probably where you are right now in your faith you'd like it because you just want some interaction you want it you want to be challenged you're you've done all the necessary stuff but there's a right way and a wrong way to do it absolutely um anything else that uh god's been doing in your life which what's coming up in the future um anything else you want to talk about when we got a few minutes left um honestly when it comes to the future i really have no idea i would like to be back on uh you know youtube and tick tock and doing all those things but i've really just been trying to spend a lot of intimate time with the lord um you know no searching my soul and just seeing what he wants to to do from here just praying about it really um but i really don't know what he wants to do i do know that i am getting requests for interviews and people are still reaching out for help and um it's on my heart absolutely to continue to do social media preaching or teaching or whatever you would call it that's what i love to do i'm very passionate about it but i really don't know and being part of the supernatural life is something that i love as well i've found this this great family and i'm 21 years old i get to travel the world and talk about jesus and help people and just that's amazing to me so that's what i want to keep doing yeah that's awesome well keep it up you're doing a good job and um hopefully tick tock doesn't hopefully you get to find your way through the algorithms man because you were making it you were having an impact and whatever you do you're going to have an impact you know what i'm saying so just keep it up stay encouraged i mean it happens they you know but that's not your identity too right my identity is my my tic toc personality that i've created right there's that too that listen this is just an avenue and uh we're right so yeah state state stay true to your your calling and your your story and continue to share if people want to follow your work and follow you on youtube and tick tock and stuff like that what's the best place for them to go to to ask you questions and check out your videos and stuff um my youtube channel is just my name ariana armor you guys can find my movie and other videos on there um if you want to talk to me send me a message on instagram tick tock email whatever all that information is on my youtube channel page so thank you for shouting me out by the way oh for sure and uh thanks for coming on and hanging out with me you know it's uh it's all i know you were you didn't know what to expect and daniel said yeah do it it's going to be good you know it's just a conversation and i get that a lot so don't worry or or after or after the fact for a lot of christians who come on here and hang out with me then later they're like uh who is this guy that i just talked to he's got this and this on his website or whatever it's like hold on how was our conversation was it a good kind was it a spirit-filled conversation was god was god glorified did you get to reach people and okay well that's all we're building off of you want to work go you know read a blog i did or an interview i did three years ago and it scared you or whatever like it is what it is so you know we'll we'll see by the fruits you know if we glorify what or not and um as far as the last thing i want to say to anybody watching that god loves you as you are where you are and reach out to him for anything and everything um and just i guess one last question about that and comment when when you uh started going to church and getting involved with daniel's ministry is that something that they did like they didn't say you got to let let that thing go you got to get rid of it were they constantly calling you out or not letting you be apart because of you know the way you were living or was it something they just loved you where you were and that love changed your life is that kind of what happened you asked me that um thank you lord i forgot i forgot about that so yeah no that's the that's the one thing that pulled me into into jesus cause like i told you at first i was like nah i don't want to go i don't want to do it because i had bad experiences with the church before but that is what led me to christ that's what led me to repentance is the fact that i found this church where people um didn't bible thump me they didn't say that you're gonna go to hell and you're an abomination they simply loved me the way that i was while i was trans they loved me the way that i was as i was and they let god do what only he can do and that's why i say it's the love of god that leads to repentance because they loved me and that's what led me to change and the way he loved me led me to change so yeah that's awesome yeah because people were even asking like how do i reach out to people in this community how should i you know treat them should we because obviously most most christians are like this is the elephant in the room what what what you're saying is like listen that was just a symptom of a deeper issue that was a symptom and we got to go down to the root of this where you know where this character flaw personality defect is coming from sin as you would say uh it's where it's coming from it was coming from hurt it was coming from from being abused and being forgotten and overlooked and all of that right right yeah yeah and to anybody who has questions like that i do have a bunch of uh videos on my channel on lgbt specific stuff and more to come in the future because i am still learning so much and god is showing me a lot so if you guys have questions about how to reach people and hey i have a kid who's this bad just go to my channel or send me a message and i'd love to talk to you and pray with you about it but i'm glad that you even asked me that question because that's the thing that will lead people back to jesus is loving them like i said it's not our job to identify them it's not our job to crucify them you know between them and god that's it so you met love them where they are for sure thank you so much i enjoyed this conversation this talk and uh hope i definitely hope to meet you soon we'll talk about doing some stuff with with with dan too and maybe me coming down there soon so it'd be awesome so enjoyed our talk thank you so much of course bye guys many blessings ariana armor ladies and gentlemen make sure y'all go follow her story man she's she's making waves man she she went viral too on tick tock and uh you know just doing it right and answering questions and just stirring up dialogue by sharing her story and that's what that's what you gotta do share your story don't share somebody else's story what's your story own your story man people people can get healed people can have their lives transformed by you owning your truth there were several people in my life that they weren't really in my life i just had my eyes on them but just their authenticity about you know they were unapologetically them needed not your approval this is what i like this is what i don't like yes i'm this yes i'm not and sharing that with it with authority in a sense like not karen and and that is uh it's envious especially by many religious people because you have to wear a mask you have to be somebody or something that you're not at least when you're around us you have to act like you don't like those things you have to act like you're not gay or you're not same-sex attracted or dealing with that that same stuff or whatever it is you can't act you can't like those kind of mute that kind of music even that um kevin gates and um worship music how do you listen and vote listen there's reasons man you know it's gonna be um open on profitable servants daniel adams is not authentic see the thing is bro about you coming trying to uh you know come on here and do that daniel dude i got to be straight up with you daniel is is a reason that like he's a huge part of my life as a christian who has shown me unconditional love see most of y'all's love bro has conditions on it you only accept me if i repent of my sin you only accept me if i cut my dreads if i get my tattoos removed if i quit wearing earrings if i get rid of these sacred geometric posters behind me if you got a lot of ifs and what you heard today with this lady's story is that daniel adams and what he's shown was love without conditions to love somebody whether i get so much hate and so many people going in on me for anything any my music my tattoos my rings my jewelry the way i look he's weird i felt weird spirits on it get all that and guess what daniel like a og one who knows knows somebody about the bible says no no man according to the flesh but know the mother spirit i vouch for daniel he is authentic and that's one thing that changed that girl's life was a christian who was walking in authenticity walking in authenticity love loves you when nobody else did invited you to the table while everybody else was kicking you out come on man being jesus to somebody that's all it is listen it's life-changing that is life-changing while somebody somebody took a chance like listen you said and the guy says daniel is just using me why is he using him he don't need me he is using me as a friend and i need a friend too that's who jesus is as a friend one who stick with you closer than a friend and we recognize that in each other and um daniel don't don't need me and i i would say this because i got it because you know just because you're staring the conversation up and i can tell you how i really feel tell me how you really feel i vouch for daniel adams because he vouches for me for sure daniel adams is taking taking a chance by uh by being seen with me got all these eyes on his ministry all of these people looking at what he's doing and then he he's seen with somebody like me on my podcast sharing my videos liking my comments taken up for me when people are going at me listen bro that dude's taking a i'm a liability to him but he don't care you know why just like the prostitute was a liability to jesus just like the um the tax collector was a liability of the jesus how can you preach from the word of god and be friends with these tax collectors jesus these people are taken from us and but come on man i'm telling you you support those fake tongues and fake miracles zapping of the holy spirit listen bro you ain't felt the zapping of the holy spirit you haven't felt the zapping of the holy spirit when somebody lays their hands on you and prays for you the the impartation of the holy spirit and people are saying well you're just emotional you guys are they're just being emotional crying and yelling and rolling and screaming it's just too emotional the holy spirit is about self-control the spirit doesn't operate like that the spirit operates in self-control everything should be done in decency and order yet you guys are rolling on the ground you know how is that decent in an order it's because when you come face to face with the living god and you've been carrying the weight and the burden of of sin your whole life and in an instant it's removed in an instant your sins are washed clean you don't even know what to think what the f that is a powerful experience yeah shout gotta get a shout a shabbat in the hebrew it's worthy of it it's emotional you talking about crying you talking about tears snot yeah yep born again man daniel makes me feel special for sure yeah he does because when everybody everybody else will say nah don't don't mess with truth seeker man uh he's a liability don't let him on your platform he's not a christian he don't believe like we believes he believes some weird stuff brother let me tell you one thing true seeker believes weird things doctrines of demons truth seekers believe in doctrines of demons guess what daniel adams said you know i'm gonna take a chance with that guy because i see the light within him i see what he's doing i see come on man listen there is no sin against that i'm forever grateful for anybody who is a man of their word i don't care who you are daniel adams kevin gates i don't care who you are because you're a stand-up guy salute to daniel adams love you bro and uh i'mma stick i'm gonna stick up for i'm a vouch i'm a vouch i learned it from kevin gates the hood about every i'm vouching i'm holding it down it is who is daniel adams listen you got to hear them speak we i just did an interview with them i just did an interview with them um probably two weeks ago on the podcast and uh so make sure you check them out daniel's a good dude he's you know he's nobody special he'll tell you that he's a regular dude daniel is nobody special he's just a regular guy he doesn't carry himself as high and mighty or even super spiritual he's down to earth and a good guy and that's why i vouch for him because he's a good dude so i have to say that to clear up any misconceptions or or anything like that um i want y'all to know who the people i ride for i really ride for cause there's only a few of them he's one people i believe in there's only a few i ain't got 20 30 people got less than 10 he's one of them the big homie without him saying 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