Beleaf In Fatherhood Interview  Faith, Family & Foundation
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name of belief from belief in fatherhood
what's going on my brother what's up man
how you doing brother okay so he told me
to introduce him as I asked him are you
a hip-hop artist are you a rapper
Christian rapper what are you yeah there
you go y there you Christian rapper he
said no I'm a YouTuber
right you're not a legit YouTuber unless
you have a diva ring light
oh yeah well
you I'm saying it's right here you know
what I'm saying I don't know if you see
that you're you're legit dude when I got
mine I've got mine right now
Illuminating me it totally brings out
the quality of your camera so that's
really cool like if you got a HD camera
you don't have a good light you're not a
good YouTuber gotta have that light yeah
I don't have it on this is my actually
this is my reflector that's shooting the
the Sun the light from in the garage you
know what I'm saying so got that living
I heard that man so there you go dude
welcome to the show man famous YouTuber
um like I said uh I talked to you before
we went live my daughter came in here
and said hello me and my daughter's been
watching your show with with uh you and
your family for the last couple months
seeing your family grow and expand and
the little trials and tribulations that
you're going through um yes fathering
and it's it's I don't know if I would
call it vlogging it's kind of vlogging
but it's almost a reality show man what
you're doing yeah man I I uh like you
asked me you know what what what do you
introduce me as and originally I said a
Storyteller yeah um because I I'm I'm
I'm realizing that I just want to tell
stories regardless if it's um through
hip hop or through um through YouTube or
through books like I just want to be
able to tell the story uh anybody's
story at any given time and and that's
kind of the best thing I do when I even
write the best part is like when I start
to do storytelling stuff so yeah man I
don't I wouldn't say I'm a famous
YouTuber but I would say that I'm very
serious about what I'm doing you know
what I'm saying I'm very serious about
it you're growing and the content's
awesome dude there's not like like the
content's there stay consistent with it
man and you totally have a career in
that I know you know I promoted my
patreon and you know that's one thing
that you're big on is promoting your
patreon too is having the fans actually
come on board and help you build this
thing that you're creating and kind of
like organically you're kind of learning
as you go but the fans are on board with
you man talk a little bit about how
important patreon is for somebody just
starting out like like like you know
what I'm saying you and me or any other
Creator out there well I mean take it
like uh in order for me to do like at
first when I started doing videos it
took me like you know 40 hours to edit
like a 7 minute video CU I didn't know
what I was doing you know what I'm
saying and so now it takes me
about seven sometimes four hours just
depending on the content in the video um
and you know you don't get paid for that
you know and so when people come to you
over and over and over again and hit you
with all this information and they're
like yo what you do uh makes me feel
like this or I come here for this
purpose or whatever you realize like at
a point like well I'm sacrificing a lot
to be doing this you know what I mean
and so it's kind of like the give and
take with hip-hop man like even when
you're doing your writing and stuff like
that you you spend so much time working
on a project and you see so little
return it's financially you know and so
patreon is a way that creators can get
paid to create you know and um that's
one thing I I really love about patreon
is that it puts me in direct contact
with the people who love me most um and
love us most my family and so I I I have
to be honest like I need to be a better
Steward of of my patreon page and and
the people who support us and backing us
monthly because like you know they're
really I'm at the point now where I'm
like okay now I'm seeing a point where I
can like kind of pay um my mortgage off
of this you know what I'm say
I'm not there yet but I'm close and so
I'm like man let's let's really like
focus on the uh the patron thing after
I'm finish the album so the album's done
it's been out for a couple weeks now and
so I'm just trying to focus on the
patron thing so patreon is a beautiful
place for people to be um just involved
deeper you know what I mean yeah yeah
you do sacrifice for your dream man it
takes a lot to build this it's uh 718 my
time I've been up since 1:30 a.m.
working you know what I'm saying I had
you know I'm saying I had a long day at
work I got to get up at like 1:00 in the
morning you know what I'm saying but I
wanted to make this happen man and
that's part of part of what it is is is
grinding and doing the extra hours and
speaking of grinding and the hours and
the hard work you put in there and spend
away from your family to make something
beautiful happen like I was up I think
it was yesterday and it said that you
posted a video at 3:55
a.m. yeah so the grind is real man you
you're definitely grinding dude staying
up those long hours doing what you got
to do yeah you know like it's pretty
intense you know I'm going to be honest
with you um because I you know I really
am a father you know what I'm saying so
I take time out to spend with the family
and like I'm taking care of things so um
you know my wife is breastfeeding so she
gets drained you know what I mean and so
like I'm like the go-to guy anytime like
anytime until about 5 in the morning you
know what I'm saying like I'm waking up
and or going in there and figuring stuff
out as as I'm working and so most of the
time I start my day um like in the
studio 9 N o'clock AM and then I'm in
and out all day and then I'll finally
settle around two or three in the
morning
yeah this I think I think the beautiful
thing about it too though like what
you're doing because we did the family
vloging as as well and um what's cool is
that you're not only creating something
beautiful and putting art out there into
the world but you're documenting your
family you know what I'm saying so like
years from now weeks months from now
when stuff goes on life is hectic you
can look back at those videos man and be
brought back to that moment man that's
what's so powerful and beautiful about
it and I know you I'm I know you started
when the kids were like you know what
I'm saying real small like how how long
you been actually doing it I've been
doing it since um it's but it's been
about uh about a year and a half so
October 19th I officially put out my
first episode believe in fatherhood I
shot that episode sometime during the
summer though and so it took me a long
time to edit it took me a long time like
I got mad feedback you know what I'm
saying people like oh it's too long it's
too short I don't like this you should
do this and then I just got to the point
where I was like you know what man I'm G
just do what I want and then um
everything else a follow through you
know I'm not going to be concerned with
what everyone else is doing but yeah
it's been about a year and a half man
it's been consistent work it's been like
discovering things and so what happened
was I started doing it and then the
second video I put out went viral on
somebody put it on Reddit and so like
Power 105 picked it up a couple other
different you know companies picked it
up or whatever and it got like uh just
like 100,000 views you know what I'm
saying and I was like man that's a lot
for your second video and so what I felt
like at that moment was like God was
revealing the potential you know what
I'm saying to me like yo if you continue
to do this like people are going to like
it you know like people are interested
in this and I was like okay so that's
all I needed to do see and so after that
it was about a year of complete grimming
like with no big looks it just was like
consistent consistent consistent and
then um I had a video go viral on
Facebook and that's what kind of amped
it up again you know what I mean and got
me to about
5,000 and then I realized that Facebook
is kind of the key if I take those same
videos from YouTube and put them on
Facebook then the the potential of them
to go viral is way easier on Facebook
totally yeah that's where I first seen
you was on Facebook a video I don't know
if I I think you might have put some
money behind it I think it was sponsored
um I don't with an ad or something maybe
a trailer it was like a trailer video or
something it wasn't sponsored that that
went viral organic viral yeah yeah
that's what's up yeah that's why that's
where I caught you and uh like the page
and I think I commented on one of the
videos and then yeah found it on YouTube
followed it I am a patreon supporter of
you man we're we're definitely
supporting so you know wow thank you
yeah we're part of that Journey with you
guys um that's crazy I didn't know that
I'm like I'm like getting Goosebumps now
I'm like oh shoot I'm talking to one of
you um I want to ask you about you know
what I'm saying something that was
really funny is when the kids were
calling you Bob man that whole episode
where they would just walk around the
house just hey Bob Bob it was it was
hilarious man go into a little a little
bit of info on that I don't know where
that comes from man like they're weird
man like kids are just weird at this age
you know you just never know what
they're think what they're talking about
and so when they start talking you have
to kind of connect the dots you know
what I mean so like um we were at some
event this this recently and then uh you
know someone was this girl was wearing
like a tight dress you know but it
looked like the dress from the main
character of Hotel Transylvania you know
what I'm saying I don't know if you've
seen that show with there yeah yeah yeah
so like my son yah is like I want to see
Transylvania the girl with the blue
dress like what are you talking about
and it's like this girl with this like
real like seductive looking dress I'm
like what is going on here so the things
that they relate to yeah um it's just
weird so they always call me Bob because
I have glasses in them bald you know
what I mean it's just it's kind of
embarrassing but it's super cute too you
know what I'm saying that's kind of
funny though that's kind of how like
like when you're janking on people in
like Middle School how you give them
nicknames or whatever you see something
that stands out stands out and then you
just go in and that's their name and so
kids are doing just naming people as
they yeah easier for them man like a
frame of reference you know yeah when I
was uh helping out in like this uh high
this junior high program after school
kids kept calling me megaan you know
what I'm saying because my head was big
and I just had one bald it's pretty
embarrassing yeah man that's how it goes
all right speaking of so wait a minute
so wait a minute you never so you met me
through through the videos you never
heard of the music no yeah it was it was
originally through the uh the Family
Video I didn't know you were Rapp yeah
so I you didn't know I did so you didn't
know the dream Junkies you didn't know
none of that none of it I'm just now
getting into it like I just seen that
you were on jctv you know what I'm
saying so I I seen that so so yeah I
didn't know didn't know anything about
that so that's kind of like second like
I'm into it but like the family thing is
what got me you know what I'm saying you
know what I'm saying I'm a father that's
crazy you know so that's what kind
that's what kind of draws me and to say
that like I want to ask you about your
upbringing man like um did you have a
dad growing up was your dad in your life
yeah so my mom um and my dad weren't
married um and so my
dad um like right after I was born not
much later um my sister was born and so
um he had like a you know another
girlfriend or whatever and then they got
married you know they moved to
California got married and so we had
like they had joint custody over me you
know say my mother and my father had
joint custody so sometimes I would come
out to Cali and I'm from Baltimore
originally you know what I'm saying and
so somebody would like fly me out to see
him ever since I was two I go back and
forth and so um you know I think I think
that he was trying to be a better father
than he had which wasn't really much of
a dad you know what I'm saying so he was
trying his hardest but it wasn't like he
was like yo I'm going to be the greatest
D ever you know what I'm saying he just
was kind of like trying to get through
it it seems um I think now like he has
you know he's like one of those people
that it's like yo I think my son should
fear me you know my kids should fear me
healthy fear like that was it was most
about respect most about fear wasn't
about like Safe Haven making sure I'm
okay emotionally physically like like it
just was like do what you're told and
stay out of the you know what I'm saying
and so um no I had a dad for sure you
know my dad is a great man like I love
him he's very well respected um you know
um however like as far as like learning
what kind of father to be yeah I
wouldn't say that he is my inspiration
yeah you know what I'm saying um but he
is he's very like now I look at him and
I respect the man that he is but I
wasn't like in love with him as a dad
like I just was like man I want I want
to want I want to want you as much as I
I want you to want me as much as I want
you you know what I'm saying type thing
and so um you know I don't know
man and but but my mom me and my mom had
a really rough upbring so my mom was
like 16 when she had me yeah um like
very like you know emotionally unstable
and you know which led to a lot of like
anger issues on her part and um you know
abuse you know what I'm saying um and if
you ask her she'll be like I never
abused you but it was a lot of times
where like it didn't have to go as far
as she took it you know what I'm saying
and so um I would wake up like I had
PTSD you know what I'm saying like even
at like 19 I'd wake up like flinching
like someone was gonna kick in the door
and hit me you know what I'm saying so
yeah that's what I was mentioning at the
beginning when I put you know I'm saying
I put out a little book and I put some
of that stuff in there about my
childhood and my upbringing and I'm just
writing and uh my mom read it and she
had suppressed all that stuff like it
didn't happen like you like you're
saying they don't they don't remember
that you know they suppress it and and I
tell you what's what's crazy is that
like I went through a lot of counseling
as as a Believer like you know what I'm
saying like uhuh Deliverance counseling
and um you know you know what I'm saying
just like walking through forgiveness
and dealing with the fear dealing with
the anger and giving it to the Lord and
himing it taking it but and that's
that's that's what we have with Jesus
man but you know I'm say everybody isn't
at that level and sometime people have
to just suppress it and forget about it
and act like it didn't happen and push
it down and I'm telling you man when my
mom read some of those stories about
like you know what I'm saying the
weapons and the beatings and like uh you
know I'm saying people coming over to
the house that we didn't know and having
to learn you know I'm saying how to grow
up on our own my mama she Straight had a
panic attack man she couldn't Bree and
was crying and she it was it was it was
deep man it was really deep but that's
one thing about man just being able to
like deal with those fears and and cope
with the PTSD I got a friend of mine's
probably watching he was he was beat up
by his brothers like his whole life his
brothers were like 20 years older than
him and uh they they they would beat him
up and slap him around and he would
Flinch anytime they would he would shake
in their presence you know and that
that's just like the PTSD man is like
the you know what I'm saying like the
psychological effect that that trauma
had has on on a person man you know what
I'm saying even from a an early age you
know yeah well the thing is too about
that is like you know my my my children
have their own story to tell you know
what I mean when they when they get old
enough to formulate their own thoughts
and they can say you know what I do to
them becomes their story it's no longer
mine anymore you know what I'm saying so
my mother could be like yo I don't want
you telling people that and that's not
right and I don't but I'm like yo that's
no longer yours like that's a part of my
story that's a part of who I am and so
um you know it takes a long time to
remember that your identity isn't what
was done to you you know because like
you know when people ask me who I am I'd
say you know I'm you know black here
from Baltimore you know what I'm saying
I was abused by my mom and my dad wasn't
around enough like those things that
happened to me become my identity and
that's not really what it is you know my
who I am is what I do with those things
you know what I'm saying not what what
was done to me and so that takes a long
time a lot of like growing up to do
because it it's it was hard you know
like you know getting married and my
wife's like yo I want your mom to be
this and this and this just close to us
and I'm like man I don't really I'm
really uncomfortable with that you know
what I'm saying and so um you know
everybody else's truth is like yo that's
not who your mom is um and so it helped
me because like my brother went through
the same thing and I was able to like be
kind of like um you know a person that
he can you know lean on you know what I
mean during that time yeah yeah that's
some of the some of the hard things to
go through so that that's why I was
going to ask you
like being a father being a role model
teaching the kids like some of the some
some of the stuff that that you're
learning from your kids which is
beautiful too because you're you're
sharing that with the viewer like some
of that stuff we learn we just keep it
to ourselves but you're actually sharing
it with us man you know what I'm saying
some of the different things that you're
seeing um but like with like H you know
having that strong father figure that I
guess you said wasn't there so you're
kind of having to learn how to be a
father right like there's no really no
like a guide there for you like this is
how you do it you you've seen the way I
did it and this is it well I mean like
you know um Godly God God has
characteristics um that show me what
type of human to be yeah Jesus you know
is is a great example of the type of
humans we're supposed to be and so with
that as a image to look forward to I can
take those same characteristics and
apply them yeah to any relationship you
know what I'm saying so like uh you know
as far as like me like even me like
having like a short temper right I have
a short temper so I know that whenever
my son does something I have to
immediately like fall back you know what
I mean and then re assess the thing and
be like okay yeah like I know that I've
done things like this to God you know
what I'm saying where I've like tried to
hide things or whatever and um it's okay
that he does these things he's a child
and I have to like REO through the
things but it's like yeah man like you
don't have those examples um until you
see them right and so I have a um you
know my pastor he's my pastor now but
he's always been like a friend of mine
or whatever so he's he was the first
like healthy healthy marriage I've ever
seen you know what I'm saying which
which inspired me to want to get married
so you you know like back in Baltimore
when one of the homies got like you know
pregnated at somebody it was like oh man
I'm so sorry to hear that man like you
know um it sucks man you you going to be
all right though I'm here for you need
anything you know what I'm saying and so
um to think about how like crazy that
thought is yeah uh I needed to see the
proof of a healthy marriage before I
wanted to be married and the same thing
with being a father yeah and so um I
realized that my my homie Pat that's the
proof for me that you can be a father
you know what I'm saying and a husband
he has six daughters you know what I
mean um and I was just like man like I
want to be that for other people not an
example but proof and so we are the
proof that it's possible um and even as
Believers like we are proof that people
can be in a relationship with God we are
proof that people can be uh that people
can forgive and move on relationships
and reconcile with our mothers and our
fathers who done us wrong or sisters or
whatever you know what I'm saying so we
have to be the proof and that's kind of
what the staple of belief in fatherhood
is is that it's the proof
MH that's deep man
um that's like the crazy thing about it
is like when I when I wrote that book
like at the end it ended on a good note
about how like you know what I'm saying
my relationship with my mom is something
beautiful now and now I can hug her and
tell her I love her and actually mean it
and like it it ended on a good a good
story like you know what I'm saying like
a happy ending but she never got to
finish it you know what I'm saying she
never got to make it to that no she
thinks I got this book out there that's
like degrading her and and stuff man so
how are you guys now are you guys
talking or yeah but it it's there man
it's there like we talk but it's it's
there you know what I'm saying she talks
to my sister and everybody about it you
know so um it's so weird like I don't
even know and I'm having a hard time
with that too man because I got some
like some music that's like yo this is
like really good stuff you know what I'm
saying but it's exposing a lot of that
stuff and I'm like I don't want because
me and my mom's relationship is kind of
reconciling and we're getting close
again I don't want to do anything to
rock it but at the same time as a
creative I'm like yo is going to stop me
from being creative you know what I'm
saying I wrote this song years ago um
with the breaks the the group I was in
before um and it was called alive and it
was about how my mother everybody wanted
my mother to abort me but she didn't you
know what I'm saying and I was thanking
her your mother didn't make it to the
end of the book my mother didn't make it
to the end of that song you know what
I'm saying she was like you're telling
people that I did and it's like yo we we
we rather appear perfect yeah and that's
what I'm like yo I'd rather not appear
perfect so I'm going to expose myself
via YouTube yeah m up you're going to
see that you know what I'm saying you're
going to see that on the show you're G
to see that in any situation but um I'd
rather just be honest you know and not
let people think that I'm this great
father you know what I'm saying because
I really am a douchebag like I really
you know what I'm it's good that people
know that yeah that's that's where the
grace comes in man talking walking in
that image you said a mouthful though
there about um having Jesus in God to
kind of be that guide or that role model
for you man when like a lot of people
have no idea what what you're talking
about like for me and you we could throw
we could roll that around yeah man you
know what I'm saying he's the he's the
example um it's almost a blessing for
those like a secret blessing for those
who who grew up without a father cuz God
says I will be a father unto the fathers
so you can know him in this most
intimate way of which I've had to know
him right he you know what I'm saying he
he he basically took me in as a father
and taught me all the things that I had
no idea how to do right and teaches me
daily so but that's that's something
that a lot of people don't have people
who have grown up without fathers man so
that that's one thing so it's like
anybody listening who is fatherless or
you had a father in the picture you felt
like he wasn't there you know what I'm
saying just know that that that there's
love and grace that flows from the
Throne of God to you man that he loves
you and he just Embraces you and and
wants you to look at him as your father
man let him love on you man so if
anybody needs prayer we definitely want
to open the phone lines up as well if
anybody has any questions we definitely
want to make that known too we'll get to
some of them at the end of the episode
uh the uh numbers are scrolling at the
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anybody has a question for belief or
myself we definitely jump on that um you
talked a little bit while ago about um
people having opinions and you should do
things this way and do do things that
way there's a level that you have to
cross and it still messes with you no
doubt but I want to talk to you about
the trolls man uh because I was watching
that live stream when some of those
comments came
through that that particular night and I
seen the countenance of your face and
your wife's face when y'all seen them
just like uh uh your wife was like sick
to her stomach she excused herself she
didn't want to be a part of it and I
guess that was a bridge you had to cross
at that moment I'm not sure if it was
then it's a steady Bridge man because
there's levels to to this stuff yeah it
definitely gets worse yeah it it totally
gets worse but uh so I guess just talk a
little bit about that because anybody
wanting to do anything
online uh those people are out there man
and and they and their um criticism
carries weight sometimes you know what
I'm saying we it to heart because we're
already insecure a lot of times and then
we listen to what these people have to
say man talk a little bit about the
trolls and some of the comments and
things you've been
seeing with it you know like when you
when you're doing something that's meant
for good or you're doing something that
you think is powerful or people are
getting like they're growing from um
there's always going to be an
opportunity for you to be distracted and
I think that's what you have to realize
is That Yo like everybody like people
are so unhappy or so irritated or
whatever or like anybody has a freaking
computer or or ability to to sign on so
like you know I have an uncle right or
I'll say this I have I have people in my
life you know what I mean not gonna put
that Uncle on blast but I have people on
my in my life who um you know are in
like the worst relationships of their
life they can't tie their shoes they
can't do anything right you know what I
mean but they have a computer so that
same person can go online and say
something stupid and that is I should
value what they're saying um so we just
have to understand how focused we have
to be in order to accomplish big things
um the enemy is going to try as small
things at first so like calling me the N
word that really doesn't bother me like
that type of thing doesn't bother me now
when you talk about my kids that bugs me
but I still have to remember like what
the main goal is you know because when
you put your business out there online
it's kind of like the nature of the
Beast like you got to know what you're
getting yourself into and so some people
are like yo you should know better like
I I got into an argument on on YouTube
to the comment section because somebody
said something they were like you should
apologize to her and I don't appreciate
that I'm like look I don't care about
your view like I'm only here for people
who rock with it you know if you don't
rock with it if you're mad because I
said this and this and this fine you
don't have to watch but the point is
that we really have to focus on what's
most important and other people's
opinions aren't what matters is if we're
glorifying god with our work the truth
is I believe that without a doubt that
God is getting the glory in what I'm
doing you know what I'm saying
um and even when I'm doing a crappy job
at it or I mess up or I'm make a mistake
or whatever you know what I'm saying
like God is getting the glory I see I
see the fruit and nobody could change
that you know what I mean so um I would
just say to anybody who really wants to
get into internet work uh that you know
you should really um have thick skin you
know what I'm saying like not only have
thick skin But realize that everybody
who's uh saying those things about you
they believe that like people believe
like the first time I went right that
that time I got like 100k right people
were like this dude's going to leave his
family in a week yeah but the truth is
those people really believe that so at
first I was upset I was mad I got really
angry righteous anger but then I was
then I got sad for them because I'm like
yo this is what you believe is true and
so I have to change your mind like my
responsibility as a Believer as a
Creator I'm going to change your mind
I'm going to prove you
wrong yeah that's the um
that's the weird thing dealing with the
trolls and seeing who like is worthy of
the uh you know what I'm saying the
attention I guess because some people
have criticism that's good and we should
learn from from criticism that that's
good and um and we should see ourselves
Through The Eyes of others at times and
so we don't kind of build this cloud and
this is our reality and this is it so to
kind of step back am I being a douchebag
am I being a good Christian am I example
in my mind I'm a good example but if I
see it from their point of view like um
so some people have good criticism but
it's hard to find out and say okay are
you just trying to argue with me or do
you have my greater good in mind like
what am I going to get out of this
conversation that you're trying to
engage in and or or are you trolling you
know what I'm saying because you get a
lot of that stuff you get you get a lot
of that stuff yeah I mean you got to
accept it all like you know the one
thing I remember Andy and Domino told me
he was like yo like if I
believe you know if I believe everything
good they're saying about me you know
what I'm saying I have to believe
everything bad you know what I mean like
yeah have to take the good with the bad
like so I'm not going to find identity
in the good stuff or the bad stuff I'm
gonna find be in Christ yeah right and
um I'm gonna take everything else as it
comes you know what I'm saying so um
yeah man those dudes went through it you
know what I'm saying with the whole
sacred secular divide thing with lrae
and uh and Andy as well I guess I can't
remember but I think he he tweeted and
and said a a curse word a profanity or
something in a tweet and it made a lot
of people mad or whatever but those
dudes definitely you know what I'm
saying went through it and to to read
the comment sections of Christians man
the Christians who come out and do that
that that stuff make makes you not want
to deal with chh or Holy Hip Hop or
whatever like seeing the way that these
dudes will chew you up and spit you out
and move on to the next one and move on
to the next one that's a that's a scary
thing to be man place to be at and a lot
of us are there you know what I'm saying
like I'm gonna be honest with you bro
yeah um I've been doing you know chh for
like 10 years yeah you know what I'm
saying I wrote you know I wrote some
stuff on Andy I my collab with almost
everybody you know what I'm saying I've
been doing it for a while and
I've noticed how like unmerciful the
Saints could be you know and so I put
myself in a position that like I know
I'm already slept on you know what I'm
saying like I know I'm good but I know
I'm slept on and so I've been taking
that I've been happy people slept on me
this much because I still can do like I
still can do the YouTube stuff and I can
transition and I won't get like the
chance you know what I'm saying the Pick
It signs because these dudes are going
at like even my little brother like John
gar like you you know that dude like you
know he gets the worst comments ever you
know what I'm saying he never claimed to
be a Christian rapper but he uh you know
he gets you're the son of a devil you're
the like how who are you how are you
gonna tell somebody via his Instagram
that he's a son of Satan you know what
I'm saying like you crazy like these
people are crazy man so like yeah man
I'm not rocking with it bro like and and
and you know you ask me like yo would
you call yourself Christian hip hop and
I would say no I would say I'm very far
from Christian hip hop if you listen to
my latest album It's it doesn't sound
like any Christian hip-hop album you've
ever heard and when you say the word and
you know I don't like to make a big deal
about this but when you say Christian
hip hop it implies that it's only for
Christians ex you know what I'm exactly
because it is even even though they no
man I make music for the streets no man
like the here's the whole thing from a
marketing standpoint right yes okay um
Christians will go out and buy a little
Wayne CD right uhuh but secular people
aren't going to go out and buy the lrae
CD you're not going to see somebody
riding through town or riding through
the Trap bumping lrae man it's that new
cray you ain't on it and they no this
it's rare it's rare it's it's it's small
circumstances where it happen yeah now
just because he's on the feature right
right right but you know what I'm saying
but as far as like a marketing
standpoint you are putting yourself in
the Box because and then those moments
that you do pull the lrae and you want
to talk about social injustice your your
heritage whatever the case is they they
they you know what I'm saying blowing
the whistle you can't do it if if every
song is not about the death burial and
resurrection of Jesus then they don't
want to hear it and uh yeah someone hit
me with that they were like yo I spit a
verse on Black kns Album you know what
I'm saying and was called um the song
was called I'm cooling the cool or
something like that and then people were
like this one dude said yo Bel this is
fire man you can rap but where's the
Jesus at bro you don't put enough Jesus
in your R you know what I'm saying and I
was like hey man like if I said Jesus it
would only be for the benefit of you
because I know you would buy it now
that's turning Jesus into a bar and my
God isn't a bar like my God is a master
and he's the Lord Of My Life he's not a
punchline yeah you know what I'm saying
so like a lot of that's the secret to
all this is that a lot of people put
more Jesus their rhym so they can get
more bookings by the youth groups you
know what I'm saying like that's how it
goes I've been there done that and got
chewed up and spit out with it all you
know what I'm saying so I totally know
and I learned a lot through it you know
what I'm saying but uh it it's a it's a
weird thing and it's done it's it's hurt
so many people because there's so many
people involved in it I got so many
friends who don't they since they don't
want much to do with God because of I
got I got dudes who have seen what I
went through and they and they just
watched it from the back and they like
you know what man I see what they do I
see what they did to cray I see what
they did to you ah man I I can't fool
with these church folks like that no
more man I was like hey yeah I didn't
tell you that you learned you said that
you on your own but but it's the real
deal man um facts it's crazy you know
but a lot of people go through it but
we're in a weird place right now we're
in a good place and there's many people
who are unchurched who love God with all
their heart there's many people who are
living uh not living but meeting in in
um in homes to do church and to have
Bible study prayer and worship you know
what I'm saying with one another
gathering and um we're in a we're in a
weird place right now there's a lot of
of
um we're in the transition like I'm I've
been I've been away from church for so
long it's weird to go to church now like
to be to like I've been out of the
system so to go and to see the fake
smiles and to to the handshakes and the
hugs and hey bro you know all that it's
really weird to be pulled back into it
because I've studied the psychology
behind it all essentially you know I'm
the groups and the clips clicks and
stuff like that so it's really weird to
to actually be a part of that man and to
go and see it but yeah a lot of people
are speaking up though they're like look
I'm not a part of that but I'm a
Believer um it's not about how how much
you could say Jesus but
essentially um you being someone who
whose life has been transformed by the
gospel and you're going out into the
world loving you know what I'm saying on
the world and just being that light
essentially that's what we're supposed
to be versus going to churches seeing
who can you know get get the crowd the
the hypest or whatever you know what I'm
saying yeah man and and that's why like
I'm kind of I'm really over like rap
like you know I said I put on my last
album like I'm really over that you know
what I'm saying like you know I don't
even want to do no more shows like I'm
just like man like so much of this scene
so fake to me you know what I mean um
like where hip-hop has been that to I
don't know if you heard the record that
I just put out did you hear it some of
it I haven't listened to the whole thing
no so like so like the record is
basically like a it's like breaking up
with hip-hop like she's a woman that
I've been like seeing on the side for
years you know what I'm saying and
basically it's how it always felt um to
where I kind of had to prove to my wife
like I loved her more than the art you
know and um I'm just over it man like
it's just so crazy and weird and like
you guys
realize like where's the destination you
know what I'm saying like where you
going end up like after you put out a
Reon and it does great then what you
know um there's no retirement plan you
know and so like hip hop is made from um
adversity and so when you put yourself
who if you're not in an adverse life and
you're put yourself in an adverse
situation it's showing that you're
choosing to be in a rough you know like
you you're choosing to be on that but
some people like the Chase and I respect
that yeah um yeah man I just can't rock
with it no more man I'm I'm so excited
about YouTube I'm so excited about um
the videos and all that stuff that's
happening man it's just like you can't
move me right now man I enjoy the art I
enjoy art period I enjoy taking
something creating it birthing it into
this reality that it didn't exist and
that could be this podcast this didn't
exist um could be clothing articles
t-shirts merchandise music I love my
music it's it's beautiful it's it I try
to be different creative but for
something that you want to pursue like
okay once I have that album then what um
what do you do because like if you're
not going to uh tour with it and and if
you have a family that's kind of you
pretty kind of can't if you have to pay
to keep these lights on you pretty much
can't do that leave your family and go
tour and and try to make money um so
like like the money that you get back
like you were saying at the beginning
the only money that you really get back
is your pre-order like if you're doing a
pre-order and you promoting that for 2
three months whatever you sell on that
pre-order is like the only bulk that
you're getting after that you're going
to get some money through iTunes it
could be anywhere from 50 to 6 s 800
bucks something like that for an
independent artist and that's doing
really good with like iTunes residuals
and YouTube uh monetization with the
money and stuff like that as far as with
the music goes that's a whole another
thing but like um so that's why that's
why I think it's
awesome where patreon comes in that
those who really support your your music
and want to hear new music cuz
essentially if it's about the money like
paying for Beats paying for studio time
paying for video editing paying for all
all that stuff that it takes to put into
it you really don't make it back from
your art like you really don't you
you're going to make some money back but
you don't you don't make that money back
that you have to put into it and and not
to really throw anybody under under the
bus but I had a dude hit me up a fan hit
me up yesterday and he was like Hey man
will you send me a link to your album so
I can download it I said dude I just
told you that you can download my entire
discography for $5 on patreon yeah my
entire discography and new songs that
ain't even out yet yeah and you trying
to get it for free I said bro if you
can't I'm straight up
if you can't afford $5 you're doing
something wrong man you're doing
something wrong if you don't respect the
music enough to to do that you're doing
something wrong man you know and uh and
that's not to say if somebody's on
disability or they got something going
on with them they can't work yeah but
even then folk I know folks doing that
they hustling on the internet yeah man
selling websites and stuff like people
you know what I'm saying you got to get
it how you live for real but exactly if
you want to see anything what whatever
Creator you see online right now whether
they are on YouTube and they Creator
like belief like myself making music
anybody that you're into I don't care if
it's foozy tube any of these guys online
like get behind them and support them
even financially like do what you can
because every little bit helps trust me
every little bit helps especially when
you got a family if it was just me like
I could go and not eat or whatever the
case is and live with people or whatever
that's not the case man we got children
we got so if you love The Art support
your favorite creators man whatever
they're making buy their albums share
their music all that good stuff man it
goes so far it does you're right man I
really appreciate how focused you are on
that relationship man I mean I I just
have to get better um the hard part for
me is like I'm I'm really one guy you
know and so um in the long run like I've
had some issues with the community I was
around
to where like I had to be the glue in
order to finish my record you know what
I'm saying I had to hold down the family
and consistently put out the videos yeah
so now now now the music's kind of like
off to the side where I still have to
promote it um I know that I could do it
for my living room I could do it for my
house I could just put it underneath the
videos you know what I'm saying yeah but
like right now it's like it's so much
like doing YouTube for a time like if
this is what it looks like like it's a
lot of work bro like it's it's crazy you
know what I'm saying so i' I've been
like blessed enough to be in a situation
where um I'm Ambassador for Best Buy and
so they now send me stuff that I have to
review that case that case you got we
just bought that case the other day man
I that case yeah man yeah that life
Roost case ain't no joke my wife loves
it yeah yeah and so we got like I got
other things to like review review
review and put up and you know talk
about um but it's like it's a lot of
work yo it's really a grind and all of
us are out here trying to get it man and
it's like I don't know man like I feel
like I'm in a good position but at the
same time like I'm so hungry I have the
MC's competitive competitiveness that's
good you know what I'm saying to where
it's like you know MC are like y i MK
you on a record you know what I'm saying
that's how I feel about YouTube you know
what I'm saying like give me give me the
ball and I'm G score you know yeah we'll
see man yeah so you know I guess if
we're staying on the music and kind of
incorporating that with the YouTube a
lot of stuff you're kind of making like
you know what I'm saying the goes in the
segments and stuff like that you know
what I'm saying for the show too and
you're actually rapping over it and
stuff too that's really cool you going
to keep doing that you're going to keep
incorporating that oh yeah definitely
I'm going that's who you are man yeah I
mean like I'm always gonna rhyme uh the
patrons will get most of the music you
know what I'm saying that didn't make
the album and all that stuff get all
that stuff for free um but like I'm
gonna continue to make music and I wanna
I want to be as creative as possible um
I have to learn how to produce I'm
realizing I can't rely on a lot of
producers and um um or I have to train
up the ones that I actually know you
know what I'm saying um I'm like really
excited to create more jingles and stuff
like that redo books um you know like
you know the cat in the hat or something
like that like spit the whole book you
know what I mean as a bedtime story and
stuff you know like just creative stuff
where I could just think out of the box
um it's it's incredible man it's
incredible to know just like you said
like art creating something and how I
could take like a moment with my son and
turn that into something that goes viral
you know what I mean that's insane to me
yeah um kind of bring it back to the
family a little bit my daughter had a
question she wanted to know like what's
the difference in how drastic of A
change is it from having the one kid to
now having three children like what's
the change cuz I know they say like the
first one like you're real you know what
I'm saying you're real delicate scared I
remember whenever we had my daughter
they left us in the hotel in the um
hospital and they left us in the room
and uh if we had to change the diaper we
called him it was like how do we change
the diaper like how do we do this you
know but they say the second one you
just like just like grabing them and
throw them around it's just like I
learned how to do this so what's the
what's the contrast there man I think
it's hard you know the the first one you
you think you're overwhelmed you think
it's the you know like you
think you're like oh my gosh um and the
second one's like man yo he just ate a
roach off the FL you know what I'm
saying like you know what I mean like
stuff like that like uh we it's not that
we don't care it's just that we know
he's not going to die if he falls you
know with the first one was like oh my
goodness baby are you okay um but the
this we're having a third one being a
girl because we're more delicate with
her uh but it's definitely life is
completely out of whack like we totally
overwhelmed with three you know so I'm
like yo I don't know if we could it
could get any harder if we have another
one you know what but I'm I'm I believe
that we it will get harder you know so
um I've been like flirting with the the
the the thoughts of the sectomy you know
what I'm saying because like I literally
like okay so you have one child you get
to know that one child is great you have
that child and your wife you put the
baby down to sleep you get enough
quality time but when you have two you
got to schedule them at the same time
and then it's a lot more like
fluctuating you got different ages you
got different food like you know one
baby doesn't like to eat something the
other baby doesn't throw a third person
in you know what I'm saying it's like
okay I don't even remember my wife like
my the color of my wife's eyes like I
haven't stopped and paid attention that
much you know and so I think the hardest
part about it is that like you know me
and you talking right now but if
somebody else was in this chat we would
get to know each other a lot less
because we'd have to entertain another
perspective you know what I'm saying and
that's the same way it is with family
like you have to spend one-on-one time
with each kid with you know with your
wife or whatever you know and so um it
it creates a lot of different challenges
so yes it is hard um and I'm I'm glad
for it though like it's making me a
better person for sure but it's also
completely overwhelming you know what I
mean um and and I'm just being honest
because like right now it's like you
know right now like as I'm talking to
you I'm thinking about what's what's
gonna happen for dinner you know what
I'm saying because I got I'm the cook
you know what I'm saying and my wife
cooked sometime too but yeah I cooking
so like I got to think about what she's
going to eat what they're going to eat
and then I'm like okay what time are
they are going to go to bed so I can get
back in here at work cuz I got stuff to
finish you know what I mean so it's just
always juggling and so um you know every
man um is is juggling three things you
know his marriage his Marketplace and
his ministry you know what I'm saying
and so uh everyone's like how do you
balance it all and the thing is you
don't you know you juggle you know what
I'm saying sometimes you're holding on
to your marriage you're holding on to
your ministry but then your Marketplace
is flipped and then you let that go and
you keep you know what I'm saying and so
it's yeah always like something could be
failing and you got to pick it up so
it's just an adjustment
yeah totally get that man um let's see I
had a couple more questions okay another
question I want to ask you is who is
your favorite YouTuber like who are you
watching on YouTube and kind of learning
from and getting pointers from and stuff
like that like who who's kind of
inspiring you right now on Youtube Casey
ni okay he's like the big one of the
biggest ones now yeah he's the goat you
know what I'm saying he's greatest of
all time like
I never really watched YouTube um until
basically what happened was I put on my
first album Red pills yeah and one of
the homies was like man like you're
really funny you're really like
interesting and that album was really
depressing you know what I'm saying it
was depression it was talking about
suicide it was like really really real
yeah use like it was dark um a lot of
people loved it though but people like
yo like you got to show people that it's
a brighter side to you and so I was like
what and they were like yeah man those
videos you put up your kids you put
those on YouTube and everyone kept
telling me that and I was like E I don't
know because they saw it on Instagram
yeah and then someone showed me Casey ni
ass videos and I was like oh because I
saw other blogs like Vlogs before and I
was like this is corny you know what I'm
saying they're like yeah we're going to
uh Walmart and we're gonna go get some
popcorn you know what I'm saying like
that's how videos looked yeah like man
this is horrible and then I saw Casey
NAD he sits the camera down walks out of
the room turn off all the lights walk
back into the room just to get the shot
and I was like that's the type of effort
I want to put in you know I'm no dude it
hey yeah man he's a beast hands down
dude hands down you know what I'm saying
hats off to what you're doing I I dude I
noticed that stuff I do my own you know
what I'm saying video editings and stuff
too so I get that stuff I was like how
do you get that how how do you get that
shot way over there he he just not
getting the kids out the car but it's
perfect man all that for the shy like
it's it's really cool stuff what you're
doing all the little stuff you're
putting into your videos it's really
good it's good for the views it's good
for the viewers it makes them feel like
a little bit warmer you know I watch him
I watch Gary vanard Chu because I think
is yeah oh yeah you know what I'm saying
like I wonder about him though I love
him but is he kind of like I made it up
and it's just I'm just going I am the
greatest you know what I'm saying like I
am the I am the dude it's like cuz CU
like online you kind of create what you
want to be you put it out there you walk
in it you speak it you tell people you
make business cards you're it everybody
knows it he's a good speaker cuz we've
seen some of his stuff you know what 8
years ago or so he looked told different
his demeanor is different he's a totally
different guy to now this you know going
going going guy who's got all this this
witty stuff so I kind of wonder about
that I love his content don't get me
wrong but part of me is like is he a
character because there's so many of
them out there there's so many of them
out there what do you think we're all
characters man we're all characters I
put it to you like this when right now
I'm I'm chilling if you see me on stage
I'm a totally different person you know
what I'm saying it's like you have to be
an exaggerated version of yourself I
don't know about him I don't know you
know what I'm saying my thing is that he
motivates me business-wise he has me
thinking in areas that I wasn't you know
how like you trying to in the in the
house and you can't get that little
corner with the Des in yeah he like
helps me focus on that little corner you
know what I mean yeah so one thing he
says that I loves is that you know know
yourself you know um self-awareness make
sure you know yourself don't try to be
the greatest at things that you suck at
hire someone else to do it you know what
I'm saying I know that I'm horrible
Administration that's why like I'm not
I'm trying to keep more in touch with
the patrons because I know that like
they are they are they're my ticket like
they're My Success right there that
success you know what I'm saying but I
I'm trying to touch them but I can't
because I'm like yo video video video
video Patron video video video video you
know what I'm saying like I gotta go
back to the drawing board and so he
helps me figure out that I need someone
else to be like yo can you please send
that email can you please follow with
please take this off it's hard to find
that person though especially like with
like your budget right now it's not
really there but you kind of needs to be
there you kind of would rather do
without some of the income to have that
person doing that marketing uh creating
the the the YouTube videos the Live
Events or whatever you got going on I'm
right there with you you know what I'm
saying like I need somebody but it's
like they want money it's like you know
it's kind of it's like a percentage
thing like if I if I make money you make
money type deal you know what I'm saying
yeah before I would think man really
need to get better at Administration now
I feel like I could just be a creative
someone else needs to someone else who's
better at it needs to do it for me yeah
you know what I'm saying like that's my
thought process now and so he helps me
see that another other couple YouTubers
that I watch is um May Lee um I've been
doing stuff with them lately they're
amazing um it's a Asian guy black uh
female that they're married um and they
have like six kids and they have
incredible story um and so they've been
they kind of took me under their wing
and just like you know I have like
200,000 subscribers or something like
that they're like hey um that's always
fine yeah and so they're like hey this
is what you need to be thinking about
and so they're asking me they're like yo
you know he said to me uh Joe from M Le
was like yo your your your page is like
nothing we've ever seen before and I was
like
what because you know what I'm saying
like I only got 20,000 subscribers and
he's got 200,000 you know what I'm
saying he's telling me this he's what
he's saying is that like yo you're on
track to becoming like one of the best
YouTubers you know what I'm saying I was
oh shoot okay so now it kind of got me
looking it got you know my countenance
is different you know what I'm saying
like U I feel more confident you know
when I step into the room even though my
L my numbers are really low I know that
I represent I know what I am you know
what I'm saying you know what's coming I
know what's coming you know I could see
it um and I never could see it before
bro this is the first time in my life
that I've been the guy that people are
asking
advice you know what I'm saying like not
not you know people ask me advice about
relationships and stuff like that but
like business creative advice you know
what I'm saying like people who you know
were the big homies before like yo can
you uh help me out with this I have an
idea you know what I'm saying and I'm
like it's really weird it's different
but I love it you know and so I feel
like I have way more responsibility
now yeah I totally know I totally know
where that's at man maybe you can move
into the place too I guess if the
money's right where you do some
consultation and stuff like that I know
there's a lot of people who are like
independent YouTubers and uh you know
I'm saying motivational speak speakers
and stuff who who actually do that if
you want to learn to do what I'm doing
if you need help in this area not the
homeboy or whatever but people from the
outside cuz they're coming people want
to do what you're doing people want to
do what we're doing right now um and so
you know what I'm saying kind of set up
consultations in charge for it man I've
seen seen a lot of people do that and
and a lot of a lot of independent people
on YouTube and podcasting make the
majority of their money by helping other
people do what they're doing you know
yeah and that's and that's another one I
wanted to do was the uh the online
course you know you to me type thing you
know what I'm saying and um I want to
figure out how to do it I don't know
what my subject is going to be on you
know I don't know if it should be on
YouTube or whatever yeah but I think
it's kind of too early to start casting
in on stuff like that I feel like I have
to be a little bit greater you know what
I'm saying um I think I mean if the
numberers right though too though you
know what I'm saying not if you're just
doing it for chump change and it's it's
taking too much time but if the numbers
right that you can kind of put towards
what you're building that would be dope
you know what I'm saying like if you
could take that money and put that
towards the ad ad revenue or something
to kind of reach all these potential new
people and kind of feed back into what
you're already doing type deal you know
yeah yeah I know how the YouTube money
is too man you know what I'm saying um
very scarce it is um I will tell you
this from one YouTuber to to the next
and I think this you know what I'm
saying the more studying you do people
know it's like it's like the longer
videos you do if you can keep them there
on your video for for a long time you
make more money um so if you do get into
podcasting or do some type of interviews
like this one-on-one with other YouTube
YouTubers fathers entrepreneurs whatever
the case is the uh ad Revenue goes up a
lot so versus getting you know what I'm
saying the one view or whatever that's
that's that's part of it I've been doing
this for years as well so um you know
what I'm saying all my channels just got
shut down though man they they put they
just pulled all my channels yeah man why
um copyright strikes and um I I did I I
I had several channels man and anything
that had my email affiliated with it and
I was um running some other people's
like they made me an
admin it pulled it when they made me an
admin to other people's huge Channels
with like 400,000 views on their music
videos and everything like legit they
pulled their channels man what man it
sucks yep I'm just trying to after that
yep all my family vlogging stuff man my
daughter we had a uh reaction channel
for her 300,000 views man on her first
video first video 300,000 views doing an
Annabelle reaction her and her little
friends yeah kids react to scary movies
I would show them Scary Movie trailers
let them react and they don't watch it
they were freaked out making crazy faces
that's a really good idea it went viral
man and um but yeah the reaction videos
are something big too though a lot of
people are doing that so everybody it's
kind of getting
God it's so many people are doing it
yeah yeah I'm trying to figure out like
creative ways to do stuff like um like
you like you saw a life proof case you
know what I'm saying like people do
reviews um I don't know how many people
bring their kids on you know what I'm
saying like I'm trying to figure out
creative ways to implement this stuff
yeah it's it's hard you know but it's
definitely like I don't want to be like
like because you know when I go to
places like clamaron like hey what do
you do oh like I I do family you know
like videos and stuff like that oh what
do you do I do reaction Vlogs you know
what I'm saying and then you go to their
page and it's like everything looks the
same like it's just I'm not interested
you know what I'm saying and so when I
hit you when you open a video from belie
in fatherhood you know it's going to be
different you know something that it's
it's rare that you'll see like that dude
I like I like how you make your edits on
your Cuts with the beat as the beat
changes I love when you change CH that's
dope man thanks man I appreciate that
bro um as far as getting back to music
just I guess I had another question for
you about musical influences man who
who's the goat man hip-hop oo that's
really hard man all time now I'm not
talking about right now we got a lot of
good people right now but even all time
like who would you give it to
man all time that's such a top three man
top who who's who's your top three put
it that way my top three are um Black
Thought um he I have a very sentimental
like connection with that dude yeah um
uh gosh um I really love big L huge big
L fan yeah
um and third I think three stacks yeah
those are like my three my top three um
I think Black Thought uh I found his
tape I found a tape a black thought tape
uh on the way to school in e8th grade I
was walking to school I missed a bus and
I was walking I was walking with my head
down was a long walk and I walked by and
um I saw this tape and I was like man
this is probably some trash at the time
I was listening to like Master P No
Limit make him
say say and so I'm looking down I picked
up this joint it said proceed right yeah
it was green I opened up I put the joint
in my my tape my U my Walkman and then I
heard because I was suicidal at this
point I'm in middle school and the first
line off this record was just think
what if you could just just blink
yourself away and I was just like oh man
it hit me like right here and ever since
then Black Thought has been my favorite
MC he follows me on Twitter like I'm I'm
very like excited about
that um he's he's he's a beast bro I
mean like he says words like the way he
raps is like they were created for him
to say it you know what I'm saying like
he has a very like oh this this word was
invented for me to speak it at this
moment like I love that dude um Big L
like you know just a punchline Beast you
know what I'm saying very vulgar very
like you know in your face but he's he's
you know very credible as a rapper and
then Andre 3000 you know is just has the
most ability out of everybody
fearlessness I hate that we don't see
him in too much stuff anymore but he
kind of he kind of you know what I'm
saying laid that foundation and made
that that Legacy yeah well he you know I
feel like he he's just a he's just uh
every rapper deals with it man they deal
with pride they deal with um trying to
be the greatest they deal with intent
and motivation they deal with struggle
you know what I'm saying he has all that
stuff in his Lane you know he you know
um when when you're part of a group like
Outcast you know you may not be on board
for all the stuff you know what I'm
saying gota do it you may have some like
man I never wanted to do that you know
what I'm saying I never wanted to do did
you see the Key and Peele episode with
with
yes is so funny man D so weird to me
they are funny though dude he had one
line he they they did a remix to that
song Walk It Out remember Walk It Out
came out years Walk It Out he said uh
walk it out like Usher if you say real
talk I probably won't trust you
dude yeah that was that was that was
like at the height of um stunner shades
and Tall te's you know what I'm saying
like people walking through the mall
with big stunner shades and and Tall
t-shirts on and like the height of that
he came out with that line that was so
dope man yeah when he said uh make your
Mama Proud take that take that shirt two
sizes down or
something he is man he he totally is but
see that's see what see I've got this
crazy Theory man and this is just going
out on a limb and I don't know I don't
know if it would really happen but what
if like a lot of the the greats like
they go out at the perfect time you know
like we look at Elvis we look at Kurt
Cobain um Marley like they didn't have
time to kind of hit that
that that place that DMX is in right now
you know what I'm saying they didn't
have time to go there so I'm wondering
like what if Pac would have stuck around
and I throw this Theory out there nobody
can fathom it but what if Pac got
involved with SNAP rapping as big as
snap rapping
was what if Pac stuck around and got
caught up with D4L and The Laffy
taffies taking your head I mean hey you
don't know man it was the biggest stuff
out man everybody that was the stuff you
know you know that's when I feel like
hip hop really did go on life support
you know but I feel like you know this
is my theory right during that time
D4L uh DJ Unk Baby Huey um all these
disrespect disrespectful
Brands um came along and then like these
subpar rappers made like kind of start
right I'm not even talking about those
guys I think those guys Young Jack all
those dudes lowered the ball so they
lowered the bar so low that uh doors for
dudes like me to go right but W looked
like a great yeah yeah you know what I'm
saying like w looked like he was the
best rapper alive yeah and and this is
going to this is going to rub some
people the wrong way you know what I'm
saying but like Meek Mill look like the
greatest rapper of a lot
basically all of Rick Ross's label look
like the greatest you know what I'm
saying like all those dudes like and so
now that we have you know your DRS and
Kendricks your your your your um your J
Cole's uh we realize the difference
between the J
Cole and a you know what I'm saying a
jock or any of those dudes you know what
I'm saying we know the difference now
and so you know part of me is like why
do we even care about what some of these
dudes think you know yeah um so yeah man
hip hop definitely took a you know was
in recession and it was in a rough place
and so um all these other dudes who um
the kids who were born in the 90s were
listening to coming up like um what's
the dude's name man you know what I'm
saying like booy right so booy is like a
goat that people like really call him
like the southern pop yeah which I
totally disagree with you know what I'm
saying um but at the same time I didn't
grew up on littley because that wasn't
my style you know what I mean but I I've
listened to some of it and he does have
some of those some of those tracks I was
a I was a no limit dude um dude my
favorite Southern rapper of all time c m
okay okay cool I thought say s Shaka I
was gonna hang up I was gonna hang up on
you let me ask you this man this isn't
bashing anybody it's not bashing Sil the
Shaka but do do you think he is um
homosexual have you watched have you
watched his his his like his like new
interviews that he's doing with Vlad and
all those guys hip hop DX you haven't
seen none of the newer that he's
doing he's very effeminate he he pops
his gums when he
talks yeah yeah I mean I think I think
you know that's you know I don't even
think he's on I think some dudes like
raised by their mom you know what I'm
saying and got feminine like things they
do some dudes maybe but at the same time
it's like I try to stay so focused on
what I'm doing I have no idea yeah you
know what I'm saying but but but when I
was a kid those guys were the ghosts for
me though you know what I'm saying even
even but you even even silk the Shak
some of his versus man to go back and
listen to him even though like he made
his Cadence up as he went probably like
he didn't know his stuff at all um some
of those verses are still good man you
know what I'm saying when you go back
and listen to them I wouldn't agree with
you at all I mean I mean they definitely
like my memory stuck in your head okay
yeah yeah they make me feel good it's
for my memory but I wouldn't be like yo
this was a dope verse because I mean
like right after so the Shak you had
somebody like Mystic who come on who
would totally rip the beat apart and
when you was listening to it you
couldn't tell the difference back then
now you can but back then always differ
I mean we knew that we we knew that he
was the wackest but it was come on man I
know we get we showed the mad love
because we was Down with No Limit like
we was down with everybody you know what
I'm saying Mama Mia like everybody was
dope but I I was safe during that time
yes but it was about the time like
during that same year or something like
that I feel like the miseducation Lauren
Hill came out like a year later or
something can't really rock with this no
more we got elev yep and then he sold
hiso everybody's jumping on me right now
uh in in the chat for talking about this
man I can't see nobody everybody in the
chat like you trying to make him hang up
man you're talking about Sil the Shaka
you're arguing with him about
s come on man it's dude it's just simply
Nostalgia would you go to the no limit
uh tour cuz they're doing like some you
know what I'm saying reunion shows would
you go to
I don't go to anything I I mean if I
could I probably would go if you got
invited you know if I could if I got
invited to be backstage I
probably I probably would walk by and
look and be like that's dope came to my
house knocked on the door gave me a
letter I may go maybe not I mean like I
mean like I'm not really I'm not really
into that no more man I'm not really
show but yeah I would definitely go but
I really wouldn't want to I'd watch it
yeah it's straight it's straight
Nostalgia but I think I'm where you are
here uh it's like I would rather create
the content than spend time oh good and
just looking it up and just going at it
like the drive in you to create is just
so oh that you got to you got to grind
that's like you know what I'm saying I
think that's that's just that's just
where it is for us us creators man so
instead of yeah you want to create it
yeah that's what happened with me man
like I watched you know like even
watching I used to watch football used
to be really in the football Ravens you
know what I'm saying like a Ravens fan
and I just like man like they stuck to
me one day like man I'm sitting here
watching all these people live that
dream I live you know what I'm saying so
I was like you know what I'm going to be
a pusher yeah not a fiend you know what
I'm saying I'm going to be a producer
not someone who consumes and so I
decided that a long time ago and that's
where I'm at right now that's one that
dude that's one of the most beautiful
things to see is somebody um living
their dream um do whatever ever it is
that they do like I like we got um some
tattoo shops around here full of like
awesome tattoo artists man and and to go
there and see them enjoy going to work
and and to create art and do that stuff
man just to see uh the person that
they're in it's like man that's like
it's envious to see anybody do what they
love to do for a living whether they're
a rapper and they're getting paid to do
it whether they're an artist a painter
like I believe that everybody has the
right to pursue their dream dreams man
and do it for a living you know what I'm
saying totally agree y totally I mean I
mean that's really all we really have is
like the thought that we can be
something greater than what we are you
know what I'm saying that we can beat
the odds and so like part of me is like
yo why me why am I like one of the only
people that I know from where I'm from
that's like believes that they can do
something you know what I'm saying like
I talked to so many of my friends from
back home and sometimes it's like hey yo
what you been up to man you know me just
trying to stay out of trouble like bro
that's what you doing with life trying
to stay out of trouble like that is
horrible bro I was 14 when I was doing
that trying to stay out of trouble man
years old but like dudes is like they
trying to stay out of the way man
because like you know I'm it's real hard
back home you know what I'm saying so
it's like man I get it you know what I
mean so like I feel extremely blessed
that the Lord has me doing what I'm
doing and that I'm a light you know what
I'm saying like I feel like I'm a light
man to the cast I'm the high school and
Stu like that so have you have you had a
chance to read the book The Alchemist
yet nah I don't do a lot of reading yeah
uh I don't either I don't either and
this comes from a student of the word
you know what I'm saying okay like um I
think it was one of the books where um
he he was asked several times um Will
Smith was asked on Oprah if you were if
you were on a desert Island deserted
island and you had one book to read what
would it be and he said it was The
Alchemist and he kind of talked about it
he was on a Tavis Smiley Show and he
talked about how like the B book is
alive like it's a powerful book that
when you read it it's it would like
shake you to go out and pursue your
dreams it won't let you sleep unless
you're doing something today to kind of
move towards that goal that you want to
create man and yeah it's a and the thing
about it it's a short read but it's it's
a magical book it really is man um every
It's Kind it's kind of like the Bible in
a sense because with with the scriptures
like when you read those stories about
the people in the Old Testament and
stuff like those people represent you
the struggles that they go through the
Giants that they're facing the idols
that they've been bowing to for years
that they got to overcome that
represents you right and so the same way
that this book is written it's a story
about a young man's Journey for this
hidden treasure and he forsakes all to
find it but you're the young man and
everything that he goes in contact with
the people he meet represent things in
your life it's like dude's reading your
mind when he when when he wrote it Pao
coelo Alchemist it's a short read dude
if you take anything away from from this
interview check that book out even if
it's the audio book laying down with the
old lady man put it on that's that's
what I'm I'm looking up right now the
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got you yeah man man so dude thanks so
much for coming on the show I enjoyed
finally getting to talk to you man I've
been watching you as a fan watching you
know what I'm saying the videos of you
you and your your family and your
children we we like me and my daughter
we just pull it up on the phone and we
watch all of them man back to back is
there any new ones is there any new ones
and then we pull my wife in here and you
know what I'm saying make her watch this
certain little segment watch this part
watch this that's love man thank you so
much it's good stuff yeah sorry about
not being able to bring the kids on I
want to explain that real quick man um
so basically um I ask sometimes when we
do these like little things or whatever
I ask a lot of them you know what I'm
saying and I don't I tried to limit the
amount of times I asked him to do
something you know what I'm saying so if
he was to actually walk past the
computer and say I want to say hi I
would let them speak but I'm not gonna
be like hey I want you to sit here yeah
you know what I'm saying because it's
really keep their attention and I don't
want pulling from them you know what I'm
saying I just want to be as natural as
possible yeah dude it's it's so cool man
what you got are doing and I'm learning
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Nostalgia hey man thanks for coming on
brother all right bro peace shalom
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