Leaving The Church to Find God | Larry Reid & V. Terrill “Buddha” Hill

Leaving The Church to Find God  Larry Reid & V. Terrill "Buddha" Hill
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Larry Reed and tarot Hill aka Buddha of
the Larry Reid live show what's going on
brothers how y'all doing what's what's
going on did I get the name right man
Terrell no you missed it all it's
interchangeable man Terrell and Terrell
I know you got it all you like no it's
just for people of York thank you guys
for coming on hanging out with me
tonight spending some time with me and
my audience here I like to talk to
people about spirituality and and
everything in between christianity
religion no religion or whatnot
one of my friends cortez he would always
post whenever you guys go live and so i
would always see you guys popping up in
the stream whenever y'all were live and
finally just you know clicking on random
stuff on facebook when you sit there
scrolling click one of y'all's live
sessions man and just you know saying
from the back I really loved it I love
you guys keep it light-hearted and touch
about really deep subject sometimes or
even in places that a lot of people
don't want to go and you guys are
speaking on it with a comedic edge and I
think that's awesome for right now
because sometimes like dealing with the
church folks everybody wants to be so
serious
sometimes you have to laugh at this
stuff if not you'll freak out like if
you take yourself too seriously
to see you guys with the comedic edge
man and what you guys are doing I think
you
guys are blowing up I think your numbers
are increasing and I'm a fan of the show
minute and that's how I found you guys I
didn't know anything about the gospel
music I didn't know anything about the
background or nothing like that it just
started with Larry Reid laughs so uh
yeah man thanks thanks for coming or
hanging out with me it means like cool
cool
so my background a little bit I was in
the church doing gospel hip-hop so Oh
white Christian rapper who uh you know
saying not not not not not to brag but I
was I was one of the ones who kind of
had everything on deck all the merch all
the the t-shirts the sick the stickers
the CDs you know I'm saying I took it
serious man I did it since like 2004 to
about 2011-2012 and so was doing
Christian hip-hop and I had an awakening
kind of just to having supernatural
encounters spiritual experiences and
things like that that were kind of
outside of the realm of the Bible or you
couldn't talk about it with church
people and they kind of just opened me
up to a broader audience so that's why
that's kind of what I wanted to talk to
you guys about tonight talking about
like reconciling faith of where you guys
are now and how it still ties in or if
it does at all cuz I'm kind of new to to
implant in your platform without being a
too long-winded man you guys were in the
church you were into the Apostolic
prophetic movement preaching and doing
gospel music right Larry at least yeah
both you guys so what what was it like
the kind of like the last straw that
you'll say okay I'm I'm leaving this
this church organization and what they
were they about well what the way that
it happened I mean just to keep it
really really really sure we were
grinding 100% always have been head in
the business and getting the job done
absolutely and that's just how how it
always was and from what I understand
from knowing his mom and his dad he's
always been that kind of way and this
will happen die paths cross and so I was
already not doing the grind and
he just came along and matched his
ground with my granny we began to just
set up churches we began to go around
different countries and set up churches
and then I begin to release my music and
really got heavily into the gospel music
side which really was I interesting to
the entertainment industry like although
gospel music is a small niche market is
still a part of the entertainment
industry and so we began to work and
work and work with billboard and
reporting ourselves and our number ISM
we began to realize that the whole film
TV digital show platform thing which has
always been a part of what we're doing
we were doing churches because we always
had to simulcast meaning we were here in
America and shooting it to other
countries and I always have to deal with
different leaders in different countries
and so we're already on this platform
others behind the scene so then we
started on stream and get more into it
began on Christian TV where Network t CT
I don't forget the name of them please
man I love them all
audience channel and so the inspiration
that we're knowing what we were doing
and they want us to train other churches
on how to put their product broadcast on
let's travel my books and music and
doing it doing and doing and doing and
then eventually we just start to pay
more attention to the streaming and the
digital side of things and so when we
had this epiphany I must say I was they
encounter that we needed to move to
Atlanta Georgia and so we had the main
Church the main Church was in Raleigh
Durham North Carolina so I just decided
to move here and continue to keep the
church there but this really when I
begin to touch this I knew this is where
we belong and so in doing that it really
sort of just opened up a whole different
conversation cuz this kind of platform
you can have very intimate conversation
we need a pulpit at church you really
can't have the intimate conversation
right so when I started just talking
every week you know off with the phone
in my face then people begin to pay
attention I say you know what this is
really what I'm supposed to be doing
this is the what I've always talked
about reaching the world and that it you
know so I'm just going to be myself and
our relationship you see Larry live
remember seven o'clock that is our real
relationship it was the same way on the
road all the girls because then you tell
the he started as like my personal
assistant right and we're like the
Manitou my two kids you know I mean my
wife at the time I a mare and I'm oh you
know but yes so I just it just happened
right go ahead you good for me I think
my record PIFAN II happen in Las Vegas
hmm
we were at the still Awards if you
familiar with still awards you know I
guess arguably the biggest gospel award
out and we were doing something called
Hollywood confidential and they were
talking about they were talking about
how if you want to move further in your
career you have to leave the city you're
in
yeah naturally we've been Raleigh North
Carolina
it's not much thinner you know as like
entertainment if what I felt my heart I
was supposed to be doing personally and
so I said I'm not gonna be able to be
where I'm at and grow and what I feel
like I'm here to do so but my issue was
but my home church in my pastor is in
Raleigh and I don't know if you know but
in certain sets of the black Pentecostal
church you'll leave your man of God and
I struggled with that inwardly and when
he'd said I'm moving to Atlanta it was
like it was like this is the moment I
instinctively knew this is the moment
that happened to me in Las Vegas I guess
coming into fruition and so like he said
I just we started out traveling back and
forth mmm to the church in Raleigh and
then we went totally digital and as well
as he was having some revelations that
he was sharing with us or
Enlightenment's or whatever yeah I mean
but I started shaking them tell you had
Church four kids don't listen
I started strandos revelations the
insight I don't go like a regular
preacher
I don't know but now when they go back
let's justify us and just eat like six
years ago oh my god he said the same
thing knowing that new you just won't
listen what he got was saying you know
but so now it's just that everybody get
it now so I had I got rid of the tithe
and the offering that's totally
dissolved even the church name and
everything that was and just really
began to focus on doing a digital TV and
radio network and we set up the whole
thing like I think you would think of
some of your donators or partners right
people there partners with us right here
for a little as $25 a week 100 hours of
a month that support what we're doing
you know this stuff is expensive proper
software no the cattle going down right
and then if you're gonna put your heart
in it you really need to be able to do a
4-time but we're not at the place where
either one of us you know can do a
4-time unlike within the church we're
very good that's the floor because when
you start moving away from some of the
traditional ways of church you have to
move away from that weekly income yes
money that money I mean let me ask you
this so talking about y'all's
relationship together real down-to-earth
real laid-back funny cracking jokes on
one another all that type of stuff
coming into the church the pulpit was
you able to be yourself around regular
church folks where they cool with you
cracking jokes and then it's time to
take the platform and now let's be
serious and this is what the word of the
Lord is and then come down and still be
able to be yourself like where does that
tie in what you always able to do that
freely well I'm a very serious person
when it comes down to business or
anything like that even you probably can
sense that from talking I'm serious
about what I do I am going to be myself
so there are so many videotapes and
clips you probably can find online if
ain't took them in private to where I'm
in the pulpit I mean for bless comedy I
mean the church is screaming and
hollering you know because I I was
myself but a lot of people that wasn't
what was put out there yeah you know
that wasn't showed on the word net where
it wasn't showed on TCT it was not show
don't and padding it where it wasn't on
the YouTube clips and I was laying hands
on casting out demons and yeah you know
that kind of thing you know but they
there
I always kept my person now it's as it
was but of course no people paid more
attention to the other part yeah I feel
that
absolutely.i I allow the church in its
structure to suffocate who I was
yeah and what I want one of the toughest
things as I dissolve some of those
traditions and teaching the principles
ideologies is coming back to myself
mm-hmm and and not even back to myself
but learning what I never learned about
myself before I really got deep into the
church so no I think read did a way
better job than I did at keeping it real
inside of the church mm-hmm
so what are some things that is new now
as far as like spirituality is concerned
about ok the religion of Our Fathers
like that's still ingrained in us that's
like a foundation but now as far as
maybe inclusion as far as Jesus time for
sin does everybody get in where's your
mindset now when it comes to moving
forward and the old rugged cross the old
well you know the thing this this is how
I how for me I don't have any problem
with this is so funny because my one of
my best best friends better than this
one sitting right here what am i well
you know asked me to come over he asked
me something about Jesus this morning in
the text field oh yeah oh yeah tomorrow
do you believe that Jesus is coming back
see I'm always you know I like saw Laura
Terry I mean I mean I still like all of
those songs I still sing them in my
person the time I don't have no problem
with the Christian faith or the faith of
our forefathers because that is what
introduced me to God for me that's how I
got connected to God and my spirituality
comes out of there so when I sing those
songs I feel very spiritual I feel very
you know Otherworld and you're not get
into that realm where you can meditate
you know and pray in tongues and
you know I you know I you know that if I
can still be spiritual with that I
always have understood it to be a path
to be it was somehow Jesus coming back I
I didn't think about hell I didn't think
about judgment I thought about you know
this there's a day of reckoning with you
everything you sold you're gonna reach
so and that's not when Jesus come back
it's today Jesus Jesus is back he's here
already and that is Europe reaping for
what you sow so that's how religion
always get was in me it was never
fear-based
I was never you know caught up on this
that Melvin now there were some
traditional things that I hailed too
many years ago but I let go of those
things many years ago because I focused
on you know being an example of God in
my world in the entertainment industry
where we are now you know I can do it if
I'm acting if I'm dancing if I'm
cracking jokes just being that light and
you're I'm sure people love and stuff
you know so yeah yeah I'm for me I
believed at one time personally a heaven
in a hill and I believed you know if you
cuss and smoke and gay as a woman act to
women as a man you don't have but now I
have scrapped or more of a personal
belief and what the individual beliefs
yeah so I don't know what you call that
but I caught it me and so so I I
personally don't believe in heaven or
hell like Reese that I believe that
basically on a principle of what you sow
you reap and your hell and heaven
experience has to do with your actions
and what you put out and if you want
heaven on earth it's inward it's not
outward I my experience in the black
Pentecostal church was we were always
crying out word for God to come come
come but I believe that he is in us and
he is us and the more we connect with
that the more we get to experience him
yeah because him more about them yeah
because he is when we are him so the
more
you connect with yourself the more you
connect with God that has nothing to do
with what you're doing some ritual
whether you go to church every Sunday
give tire offering your sex from
reference or do you cuss or smoke a
drink that's you should focus on
connecting with yourself and being your
best that you said something you said
the word inclusion I don't normally like
to subscribe to that word I like to
subscribe to interfaith and the reason
for that is because some of the doctrine
of inclusion and conversation I heard
around conclusion and from what I've
studied I don't know if it isn't it
sounds as those made it may be becoming
another religion right so I like the
nomination for the game yeah oh oh you
know so I don't even want to add it on I
just look if anything I will use
interface so whatever your religion or
belief is if it's love center absolutely
and you talk about loving yourself and
loving others and then they're in their
light and bringing goodness to the world
and I know I don't really subscribe to a
writer own I subscribe to good and evil
yeah you know and so and which is not
totally for me is totally different from
right or wrong or right or wrong is
relative you know when that can be
recording whatever you think but we talk
about what brings good to you what
brings good to others as opposed what is
evil for you and evil for others I think
that is that is what the Bible the Quran
in its purity any in any other religion
I believe in this periodic I know
religion is a man's attempt to connect
people to God but in its purity I think
that is what all those stories Moses
Daniel even story Jesus everything's
trying to teach us you know good and
evil bring it good to yourself and
others you know and what isn't the best
for you you know they'll stay away from
those things and just live a good life
that's that's it spirituality to me and
be connected to your humanity and the
humanity this and other
that's reality man I got so many
questions so many questions to pull out
of that I don't know where to go first
so imma go I'm gonna go with this one to
kind of kind of weave it in because I
know you're like a life coach and and
your spiritual counselor and I don't
know I don't know exactly what you do if
you do like one-on-one sessions with
people with therapy or kind of dealing
with childhood wounds and trauma I don't
know if you do that okay so so what so
what so where does Jesus fit in to that
with you because I do the same thing and
I'm I'm out of the church as well but
the Jesus talk wants to come out
sometimes but but I've been in different
seasons where I'll go on spiritual talk
shows and I want I liked Minister
biblical truths when I'm without
mentioning one verse at all but then
there's other times where you want to
just say okay you want to say his name
you want to speak his name so where do
you reconcile that you know I'm saying
with your personal time with your
clients and people that you're helping
out well you know because I did pass the
20 years in a Christian black
Pentecostal church I had a whole lot of
different goings on when it came to the
counseling couch and over 15 years ago
maybe well about ten years ago strong
and definitely the last seven years
I just 86 that out of my council
sessions I took it out of it first of
all I just fell out of my daily life and
my daily conversation and then it was
bled over into my counseling session
everybody's ona journey towards whatever
Jesus is for them yeah you know I well
what they call them or whatever well
ultimately the principles that Jesus
taught you find them laying all over the
world and basically everybody is
basically trying to get back to
themselves and recommit to God and that
path some call of Jesus I'm calling this
call some call of different things and
so I don't really find a need to Jesus
folk over the head but if I'm talking to
people that are Christians all of them
and the Geoffrey Noer I'm on a platform
that is for that I'm gonna use the map
because in the Bible those universal
principles are there
all of those things are there you know
is little muddy and you gotta do looking
so digging you know but it's there you
know that you can get on that path you
know and and and get a reconnect to God
you know so I don't have any problem
with not using his name I don't have any
problem with using his name for me Jesus
is God but Jesus is not God for
everybody else you know you know but
everybody's trying to get God you know
so I just that's how I used it's like
when I talk about parents who are still
heavily I'm talking about they was my my
mom was telling my dad was casting out
demons this past Friday my hopefully in
the back Pentecost Church what I'm
speaking to them about spiritual things
I use their language to get the
conversation across so I'm so it's not a
matter of your God over there my god
over there and if I say Jesus then I'm
weakening my stance for a religious
freedom I think it's about if we're
gonna have the conversation you know
what I don't know what's wrong you as
the role yeah I'd be like the wrong man
that scripture I'm talking to them I say
I say you know Jesus so and so and so
but then if I'm when I over and I got a
passenger in my car I don't know their
belief I might say the universe are good
energy but basically I'm saying the same
thing it's the exact same thing ain't no
difference there's no difference but and
I and I and I believe this with all my
heart if you believe something and you
hold that belief in the Spirit of God
you don't care what nobody else believe
and it's not doing right and but if you
hold your belief in ego yeah if you hold
your belief in narcissism that's right
you are gonna feel this this this energy
that you make all the anointing and you
may call a push from the divine to push
to push your agenda that same spirit is
once Jarama what's happening in our
nation everywhere it just happened in
Las Vegas they happen they're false
that's happening in the White House
that's happening in a whole lot of
churches it's this is that they're
getting
Oh God open air yeah I study I study a
lot of Eastern religions just as far as
like all the religions to see like
because you know the church teaches us
to study them and find out what makes us
different why are we a peculiar people
but I like to study them now on this
side to say okay what makes us the same
with a teaching assistant this is
different but we look like you said the
Holy Spirit like every religion or or
every nation has a word for what they
call the Holy Spirit in Houston
mysticism they call it the Kundalini
they call it jackie on energy in egypt
the great spirit like every religion has
something and speaking in tongues that's
practice in every religion tithing is
practiced in all of these similar things
man and like when you start clock come
on that so when you start bringing this
stuff up to religious people man they
they get they get irate man this is what
I do I deal with a lot of religions
people coming out of the church right
and they need somebody to talk to
without being condemned or somebody
speaking their language who's not gonna
condemn them or whatever for having
supernatural encounters and stuff like
that so there's a lot of different
places we can go and I know we're kind
of limited on time but so I love to talk
about supernatural encounters and I know
we talked about the Holy Ghost and
falling-down supernatural encounters
right so in the church casting out
demons all that kind of stuff is it's
it's a supernatural thing but
essentially I'm sure you've studied that
we kind of bring that down to earth like
casting out demons is just simply
changing the way somebody believes or
somebody functions or whatever and and
and releasing trauma and stuff that's
been with them their whole life or even
with their generations dealing with that
stuff you call the casting out demons or
childhood think I think that's the
practical or the clinical and what
you're saying that's the practical
clinical lens and looking yeah
so have you ever had any any
supernatural encounters with any type of
like negative entities or anything like
that ghosts UFOs anything like that
have you Larry Reid have you so many so
so so so many and I still do I guess
that would be a modern day exercise I
mean I still do house cleansing yeah I
still you know get contacted for people
who are troubled with demons and and go
meet them up and cast them out I still
do that
you know so I believe in the
supernatural you know and the
supernatural is very real Energy's real
just believe in Deena don't believe in
those okay well do you believe in energy
is real am houses can be haunted people
can be possessed people can be vixx
people can be Hicks um and I've seen it
myself you know and had I not experience
that I do believe that a belief whether
you put value you put power and I
believe that if you have a strong
absurdity as relates to the supernatural
and the negative men like demons and yos
you're gonna attract so an antigen
someone that's gonna be what you thought
up what you create it because you are
spirit and you can invite and invoke
energy you know so I believe that
happens a whole leap you know you know
but it is there is definitely a
supernatural world in the spirit world
and it does affect our emotions and it
does affect our thoughts and our
behaviors yeah yeah you don't believe at
all what I really really believe is that
number one energy is real yeah and what
probably in my opinion what a lot of
religious people call demons and in
spirits
you can sort of interchange with energy
somebody was molested in there holding
that energy in their soul and they need
to like you said release it well the way
that some of us were taught was you in
the name of Jesus come out and ha
come out flat you know but I think that
part of it maybe this the what's the
answer
how's it used theatrics oven is more
because we were tall and we're only
weighing when you release that energy
when you release a demon you have to go
do those changes but the reality is I
was in my room Monday last Monday
meditating and I released about I say
about 10 years worth of energy I didn't
flip I didn't feel out I cried
yeah I didn't flip and flop and beat
walls because I because I just I think
that lava cycle on that demon came out
[Laughter]
yeah yeah definitely man but that just
shows you like how powerful is it you
know I'm saying the brain is or
imagination is and I found out that like
when we're talking about the spirit
realm of the supernatural encounters
whatever you believe in and this is so
much intrigue just for the universe in
itself in general whatever you believe
in you like you can seek it out and find
it that's even with if we look at just
the Bible by itself whatever belief
system you have that that a woman's
supposed to cover her head or in any
type of doctrine or you believe in that
you know men can have multiple wives
like they will live their life and do
that but when it comes into the
spiritual realm man would you start
attracting things there you begin to
look for things and I mean I've dealt
with so many people even some groups in
Atlanta like the black Hebrew Israelites
and the way they read the Bible the way
they interpret the Bible its truth to
them and it shapes the way that they
view since I even though it it may not
be right and it may be totally wrong
like I would say go ahead
I miss your show but I would I was
saying it may be good it may be evil and
only reason why I just get rid of the
hole right and wrong thing it's so
relative you know but when it comes to
good and evil if what they are believing
and the way they're interpreting their
interpretating makes them view society
and in a condescending judgmental
critical it but if they see it like that
then I think that is that is an evil
doctrine yeah I think that that is a and
I don't think it's pure when religion no
matter what it is is pure you're gonna
find am i what I believe in what I find
in my experience when the religion is
pure that person experiences the love of
God and and the love of God can't be
faked
you know SOI and it's in ask in them
they have it for themselves and they
have before others I agree with you and
I think that anything that helps you not
to do what this man did the other day
and and you're saying in Vegas whatever
you got to do not to do that whatever
religion you involved with if it brings
you peace and understanding no matter
how crazy it is if it works for you to
make you a better person and below
peaceful I'm for it I don't care what it
is I don't care if it's like you don't
saying if you are in a peaceful Islam if
you are in Hinduism or the Southern
Baptist Convention like I don't care
what you're part of if it makes you a
better person
Jehovah's Witness I had a Jehovah's
wouldn't come over the other day and I
just went back and forth with them on a
peaceful tip I said I don't want to be
converted to your religion but I enjoyed
this Congress religious conversation
with you because I don't have it too
much anymore and it was like a genuinely
peaceful loving dude who cared for my
soul or whatever you know no and to that
point when when I first converted out of
the traditional Church if you will I
carry the language like oh they they so
stupid over there I think we all did
every Sunday you know lost a minds and
then I had to realize I'm being a
hypocrite up my own mess because it's
working for someone at work for me I had
to change my language mm-hmm and that's
that's so cool man because like it's
like a lot of condemnation and stuff
that comes with they have
you received a lot of backlash from I
know I know I know you I know you
talking about your departure when you
act when you told him you was gonna move
to another Church how was that received
when you told it that um saying did they
bless you and say okay brother we bless
you you guys go out and and and do what
you're supposed to do or did the
backlash start there oh you can't leave
this you know God don't want you to
leave you you know now release tell me
ya know that was his church when I was
saying that I didn't know if I was gonna
be I didn't know how I was gonna move
forward and still be a part of the
church I was going to church it was his
okay how was he I mean how was y'all's
relationship any of the he know I was
you know I'm dedicated to the call I
followed my gut all the way to this
place right here my gut said my gut said
stake my heart said I don't know how
long you're gonna be able to stay and I
was think about this yesterday I every
time I probably should have made of step
to move something here said no no no you
belong connected with this guy I only
told him my experience in Vegas after he
said let's go to it no he said I'm
loving we were already in it units him
to a gang they may be some but he said
I'm moving to Atlanta do you want to
come with me I was like yeah I want to
go with because because that same thing
that touched my spirit I guess I can say
that I knew I knew I knew his move to
Atlanta was connected to that that
moment I had in Vegas I remember we were
actually traveling somewhere I had the
preacher saying something I don't know
and you said read the OCO never gave him
a painting pitch for him yeah he he was
my assistant in that world so he was
always with me anyway right so I didn't
even know he was having this whole
conversation we was in Vegas who I know
nothing about none of that he didn't
tell me we were in Atlanta for a while
in the mood and everything
before he even told me you know I was
about what I said and I only remember
this we were in the car one time he said
read do you think you're gonna always be
enough Carolina all right yeah and I
said I don't know I said he said do you
think you move somewhere I think you may
call some city that's there I don't know
all thing I know I'm doing right now
what I supposed to be doing and if I
ghosts go somewhere it's cause God
telling me this would the path and the
ship that I'm supposed to make right now
you know so it just worked out yeah and
the reality is because I stayed I was
able to see the whole thing work and
walk itself out I could have easily left
and then realized that once I left that
God was gonna drop a piano in my head it
hurts me but I'm glad I stuck it out and
follow that inner voice that said no no
no hang in there because what I was
feeling and that manifested anyway
manifesting anyway a lot of times I
think that I think a lot of people have
they get some knowledge they get a trip
to get a revelation I think it was your
gift honestly I think it was I mean I
hate him I mean just we don't start
having conversations yeah I think I
think it was honestly no reason has a
prophetic gift I think it was his gift
that's what I think it was you know
cause sometimes we just know and with
you call a second ability or whatever
and I just think we just we just know
and that's the only thing it is we just
know to that point and we won't start
having the conversation I'll say this
we're doing but to that point because of
the part that I play in the big picture
then and now and that a lot of people
that still that's a partner of the
imbiah network and that's not a partner
but still coming on the videos and
looking and carrying on I think they
look at what I'm gonna say as well as
what Reed is gonna say so I need it that
year and a half for that thing to sit in
me
so when Reed started coming out with
this stuff I was right behind them I was
like yeah I'm getting a tattoo the
earring yet I get a little hard time
like I said it wasn't gonna be long
religiously thought my pastor was going
to hell when he got earrings I think
they all thought I was crazy you know
and that's okay
you know cuz I started sharing sharing
things that I hadn't shared I had shared
some of what my then wife at the time
you know but I just shared why she in
that way I'm single now okay by the way
but what I was saying is I began to
share Co this platform is very intimate
and you put a mic in my mouth I'm gonna
talk yeah and so I started sharing stuff
the Bible says this and they're nice
playing the well you know I see when I
first started preaching at 17 years old
my it's like second or third message
I picked up my Bible high as I could and
I joy I was I know I started off about
10 messages later and I will drop it
right out the pulpit and if I was on the
high stage it was real dramatic can't be
hold it from the hat stays and drop into
the flow and also eerily and I would say
this book means nothing and and I will
begin to talk about how relationship
with God was more important at a turn at
a time and it's so funny that I went
right back to where I started that's how
I started and I've done it every
different places I went on the road and
I went right back to where I started and
just begin to just make some things
plain yeah so we we have suffered a lot
one big thing is financial because we
were employed by the church and we got a
whole lot of gifts because venture so we
use all of them to make money right you
know but uh it's six figures and now and
I have people employ and that was a over
yeah and and people said some mean
things yeah and people didn't want like
because the thing was I really fleshed
that if you if you ever find some of the
old videos live and I put it down Oh
rightfully so cuz it was wild back in
the day and because I walked out a great
part of the beginning of my journey in
front of the camera and people would say
you know he don't need to be up there
yeah he's there and people would comment
you know read I like your show but your
holls he's full of yeah he got demons
you don't need to get up there and let
it just throw that out there he got a
really big and they didn't even think
about that how my kids look to you as
you know man L mr. Hill so they I mean
they didn't think about I've been on
your own time and he is and you a person
you're a human you know and they told me
that you need to get him off the show
but I said no I want him up here because
he he's him you know and and that's and
that's what I want and it just and it
has worked it has worked well they don't
know it's gonna work until somebody else
that they look up to come around and
something out okay this show you need to
take it to this with every man oh yeah
we always knew you ain't always right
yeah I know I know you said like that
are you still go to churches and stuff
like that and you still if it like if
you get asked to come speak your do it I
find it for for me personally it's kind
of hard to kind of move around in those
circles because coming out of it you can
see the circles you can see the elements
of control by the pastors and everybody
who wants to be the pastor it's very
overwhelming like all the small churches
want to eventually be a mega church and
they want a structure like that and then
you got to look the passes with the
bodyguards outside the door I don't know
how many you had
but uh yeah the triggerman
yeah because one was do you know he's a
boy doll you knows he was the main
person went came secured and stuff but
then if he wanted in there will be a lot
live he wanted and he'll be all about it
you know but let me say that that tattoo
on their right arm this is all the
business listen Joe what's there only of
the this program the on them stars know
that's the UH the
circle of life the flower of life I'm
sorry Oh flower life that's it I got the
caduceus and I got the Holy Spirit which
is you don't and the the spine and then
as you're enlightened through meditation
oh the Kundalini I love God a lot of
people say these people are the apostles
are operating in this time space
yes yes that's new now yeah that's new
now that's something new I did a video
on that that was the video that kind of
pushed me over the edge like cuz we were
still operating in church circles
leading worship I did like worship
hip-hop my buddy saying he was anointed
man he'd get in there and talk playing
and it's the presence of God and I do
hip-hop just rapping about the love of
God and we still we still do churches
but then I'm I'm doing podcast with
people about spiritual encounters we
start talking about the Kundalini is the
same thing as the Holy Spirit and so I'm
you know saying filled with the Holy
Spirit since I was 13 had a supernatural
encounter in somebody's living room at a
prayer meeting and I never knew anything
about that the fire of God hit me come
down my back I'm shaking crying felt
like it burnt out all the wrong that I
ever did in an instant when I gave my
life to Jesus or whatever burnt
everything got felt totally new and then
years later about you know I'm saying 15
years later we start doing yoga and
we're doing Kundalini Yoga and it's okay
just breathing I'm feeling the Holy
Spirit all over my body that same energy
it's the same energy I know the Holy
Ghost I fell to see one of those daily
of whatever you want to call it you
don't care that's not his name well I
gotta get into that presence you can
feel it so I'm like okay let's see what
makes us the same just Kundalini energy
people start crying people start shaking
they start speaking in tongues and the
fruit of it's the same they leave
changed they touch God God touches them
whatever and they leave change so you're
talking about this it's demonic these
people whole lives are changed for the
better after they experienced this you
know it's just a name as it style in it
and I understand if you're watching yeah
you should all go with hearing you know
truth seekers say you know it's the Holy
Spirit and come to the game what are you
talking about I know the religious man
yeah I know what happens to war but if
you just look at what what it bring it's
just the name it's got this gear God God
and that the energy that comes around
it's the spirit the Holy Spirit whatever
you want to call it if the fruit of it
and you can use the text say you don't
know the tree by the food and the bear
so you look at what's bad and you know
how long this is just this path this
isn't that path and it's all the same
thing you said somebody asked me it was
a hard to move around those circles I
moved around in those circles and most
people aren't going to invite me now the
appointments are not coming no more have
an appointment with the proper deposit
in months you know as proper deposited a
Plaza and proper ain't coming no way
there ain't God the devil told you to
write you know so I I just I don't have
no problem with I don't have to go into
a church there's so much many wonderful
things that can empower people that's in
the Bible that I can breeze from and I'm
a technician I've done it 20 years and
retired in the field you know so I know
how to go into your church and build the
people up in a way that my conscious can
allow me to feel okay we're doing yeah
you know use the Bible and and there
will be empower and prophesy I got to
give a prophecy and really minutes to do
your people I can work in wherever yeah
I got good good sense but they think I
can write you know so that's what they
did is get him a get an essay get about
this trick and I moral support they
gonna check you at the door I had dude I
had I had an instance here and just just
a couple of months ago a buddy of mine
was doing a gospel concert at a park a
city park he they rented the park they
got permission they ministering to the
people in the community and they're
begging me to come out like they're
close friends of mine
and I don't want to go in those circles
I'm they know me like you know I'm
saying my my renowned precedes me people
people who I don't know know me and they
me
they know my story I got to figure out
who in who told him about me oh he told
you about me down you think I'm a witch
okay
okay they told you about me now you
think I'm a mighty man of God okay so I
have to figure that out so I was so I
was asked asked to come out and I saw a
man this is this my buddy I'm gonna come
out it's in the park I'm gonna do it for
him they put my name on the flyer well
the day of I was like man I can't I
can't go man there's no way I can't I
can't go down there man and people to
run me out of there they stay they come
down there so I didn't go I say bro I'm
sick man I can't make it Oh
we'll catch on the next one so a couple
weeks later I just show up at one not to
perform not the minister just to show up
in support I get there and the interns
up you know they have their their event
and stuff and they said yeah man yeah
I'm kind of glad you didn't come to the
the one you were invited to as they why
they said well the lady who's over the
part not the church folks but the lady
who's over the park said that if you
showed up they were gonna shut the whole
event down if you showed up they see my
name they're gonna shut the whole event
it's come up because I you know I talk
about mushroom in experiences and stuff
like that and you know I'm saying
ayahuasca and stuff like that on the
show too and they said well you talk
about Jesus and going around giving
people mushrooms and stuff so it's kind
of hard to kind of still moving them
circles even though sometimes you get
you get you know I'm saying beg too or
whatever but it's just about being real
to yourself man and you don't sound like
you were saying teru teru am i saying
all right Terrell I'm sorry man I'm
gonna say it both ways all night but no
can we edit that out I'm sorry in any
way you kind of you you you find out who
you really are and like you can be
yourself and it's okay even in the
spiritual movement but I think I'll pick
this up from the church though it's like
you couldn't let them see your human
side that's why I asked you at the
beginning like was it okay to joke
around and all in it talk and in the
circles we were it kind of which show
that you wasn't spiritual enough or you
you know I'm saying you didn't want to
my praying you couldn't pray for people
because we seen you telling jokes are
just being regular person or whatever so
it's
a lot for me to say okay this is who I
am I enjoy like I got a bunch of video
game posters and stuff like that in my
background and I'm into all kinds of
stuff to be able to show my listeners
that side of me they say okay you don't
because I do it because so I don't do
gospel rap anymore but I do spiritual
hip-hop so but I use all the Kundalini
terms and even the Christian biblical
terms to do all that so - but it paints
me as this huge spiritual leader and
people just think I'm this guru which I
am but I am the down-to-earth side - so
it's about truly being yourself and
understanding like the yin and the yang
the positive and the negative and it's
okay it's good to be spiritual we can
get deep but it's okay just to be who
you are and like the stuff that you like
man and and there's so many people in
the church who can't who can't come to
terms with that and I take and even
people out of the church man people envy
that when you can just be yourself no
matter what it is if you can if you can
tell jokes and be funny if you can talk
about Wendy Williams and talk about
Donald Trump and speak your mind
regardless of the audience this is you
being you and they see you shine and
doing what you're put here to do what
you're born to do and it drives the
nation's to envy man and we see that
I've I see people who are doing what
they love to do for a living I don't
care if it is the tattoo artist like
like it's crazy to go to the tattoo
shops and see these guys who are bad at
what they do
and they get paid and they do it for a
living and I'm driving a truck like a
box truck delivering stuff and it would
move me to envy to see my people who are
spiritual gurus and hip-hop artists
making a living off what they love to do
it drives people to envy so that's where
a lot of that negativity and stuff
response from so kudos to you guys for
being yourselves man it says a lot I
should say this this is my personal
opinion you have not had an encounter
with God if you have not had an
encounter with yourself I think one of
the things that popped the top for me as
relates to my present spiritual journey
was the conversation reading I was
having about me going to the doctor for
my
I was not right in my head yeah and I
say that jokingly but the reality was I
was raised that you don't go to
counseling you don't get on medicine
yeah and one of the most hardest things
I ever done was embrace the fact I
needed help I was clinically depressed
severely clinically depressed this that
and embracing that was the beginning of
my true spiritual journey and that
taught me a lesson on the onset that the
way to God is through yourself and if
you cannot embrace your reaching this
all the time your flaws and all
if you can't embrace your flaws at all
you're you I don't believe you've had an
encounter with God I think you've had an
account of a religion I mean I am and
now I have to echo that and one of the
things that I heard is when you were
saying this true seeker something that I
say all the time I believe at the crooks
and the core of true spirituality is
humanity and so if you feel more human
you are the more spiritual you are yes
and so and I think it is extremely
important for all religions to start
pushing that because what happened is
there is this thing that is in religion
that says in order to be spiritual you
need to in order to be spiritual you
cannot in order to be richer than you
need to become and Ashta is teaching
without knowing yeah you can
disassociative disorders clinical and
all list of it creates depression and
all as opposed to saying okay
be you you be more of that you know be
and be good to yourself
yes be good to yourself yes and that
create spirituality so at the crux of
spirituality is humanity and being a
human being that spirit in clay that
comes from God and shining as God in
this world period point-blank if I could
share real quick yeah all the time is
getting past 2:00 this morning
meditation I woke up when you when you
have to Kirk you know cuz I came off my
depression medication
so it's I'm always working on staying at
a certain level and sometimes you wake
up not your best I got in my closet I
put my candle on because that's how I
choose to meditate and I didn't like I
said I asked myself Vincent I said it
out loud how do you feel right and as I
start verbalizing how I felt the more
peace peaceful I got and then I could
connect and that's when I started
meditating so the ideal of pushing it
away to get to some time something very
old place versus embracing and the
feeling that I was feeling at the moment
was fear I admit I am being fearful
right now and as soon as I admitted it
embraced it it was like and but but but
that's not what religion that I learned
was at all it was a bad fear of the name
of Jesus I will not fear you know I
believe in God and I'm gonna become this
thing yeah I have to be yeah and you
push yourself away from you pushing
yourself
yeah and you creating another step in
front in the clinical standpoint you
absolutely you're creating another step
but this you disassociated from your
core self if you want to begin the
journey of spirituality ask yourself Who
am I and what do I want when you ask
yourself those two questions you over
and over every day even if you don't
we're blast them just hold them in your
heart and you just askin God Jesus
higher power I don't know who you talk
to who am what what God name somebody
but am I Who am I what do I want and if
you just so end those two questions
you're gonna for you I give I give you
good three months then another chicken
with you know six months chicken even an
eight enough twelve
you're gonna consistently become closer
and closer to God and yourself it's just
gonna happen
mm-hmm SSO it's so powerful what you
said man just about what you can and
can't do and this is acceptable this
isn't acceptable just four years we've
heard it and I've seen it's been like a
like a meme I've been seeing not a
picture mean but she's everybody's
saying it Christians can Christian can't
see and opposed to my said Christians
can't believe in horoscopes Christians
cannot like you want to bet and we you
know I'm saying we we actually talk
about psychedelics Christians can't eat
mushrooms you want too bad you didn't
you didn't you didn't make the rules
though you you're adding to it like
you're you're adding to it and so you
didn't let me in the club so you can't
kick me out of the club so they say you
can't have faith in Jesus or you need to
quit preaching Jesus because you
preaching Kundalini as well or whatever
you mix it needs to go they get mad you
guys know it you guys are talking my
Wendy Williams and you talk about the
prophetess and people and what's going
in the church world you guys get it
everything right yeah every live we
literally cover it whatever is going on
right so whatever's going on have you
have you seen have you seen the video
yet of Donald Trump throwing paper
towels I can't believe I come and I
can't believe what he said throwing a
wrench in our pledge yeah we don't spend
a part of my weight on the show we call
him a Perez butane er he is our prayers
but he's the president cause in position
you it's coming from his best man and
then Tanner causes entertainment yes
okay the entertainer he is oppressed
retaining he is not what we will want to
see is a sitting president right you
know and and and I don't know when I say
he was throwing the paper towel I think
it's okay yeah that is a businessman
know the business is evil and so I like
him Ethiopia oh I'm bad man hey I
appreciate you guys coming on here
hanging out with me plug to show again
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Jerry Jake
it's a mixture between taro and Larry
Larry okay Alabama yeah born in New
Orleans New Orleans and I've been here
since like your skin is pale but I just
don't see right here right in your voice
there's something when he was setting up
the thing and you were talking I said
hey it kind of helps for the for the
hip-hop man I'm you know especially when
I got a bunch of white friends and
they're like would you what do you do
man and they just sound SuperDuper white
I was like it's just the way I talk but
it's good for that but when it's time to
give lectures and stuff like that it
kind of okay now you now you kind of
ghetto but in the rest the rap realm it
works really good so I got to try to
straighten up the vocabulary and stuff
you got to do both form I just said on
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awesome man
it's so it's so awesome which what you
guys are doing and especially for such a
time as this it's now okay like
whatever's going on with technology and
people everyone having a voice you guys
are vocalizing what it wasn't okay to
say even though the majority thought
about it like they had we feel this way
about Trump we feel this way about the
pastor who's sleeping around we fit us
what about Eddie long and all this stuff
when we talk about it we get in trouble
we can't do it we miss you but there's a
um it's like almost like a there's a
Christian rock band I used to follow
back in like 2004 or five six by the
name of Emory and so they have a podcast
it's called the bad Christian podcast
and they basically do the same thing
they cook they come on there they may
have a few beers they they talk that
they're dudes they talk about they
struggle to talk about what they love
they talk about reconciling faith and
and beliefs changing and is there a hell
well I don't believe hell I've been
studying it and they just kind of
reconcile faith and they're just keeping
it real and they're blowing up that
they're like showing the humanity side
the same thing that you guys are doing
and still talking about spiritual topics
spiritual issues and giving your opinion
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