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In this episode of The TruthSeekah Podcast TruthSeekah is joined by Jenny Mannion as they discuss energy healing techniques and the afterlife. There are many different healing modalities techniques better after disposal of the intuitive healer and lightworker. In this episode we talked about some of the different energy healing techniques that worked for us. Being able to sense feel and send energy it’s something that many people are able to do. Removing blockages within the auric field allows the creative Life Force to flow freely throughout the body aligning the Mind and Spirit as one. In Christian tradition this is known as the laying on of hands or casting out of demons / unclean spirits. Other religious belief systems refer to this energy as the pranayama, chi or tachyon energy. Spiritual practices such as energy healing, Reiki it’s becoming more and more common and mainstream and I believe that it is podcast discussions like these that are allowing new thought as we return to the ancient paths.

Jenny Mannion is passionate about helping clients discover their unlimited potential and power. She is an energetic catalyst for fast change with the tools and experiences. She helps people release what does not serve them on all levels; body, mind and spirit to connect to the best version of themselves.

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Energy Healing Techniques and The Afterlife | Jenny Mannion
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spirit pranayama Kundalini as some would
call it a lot of different names for
this energy tachyon energy in the Bible
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beautiful stuff the book is here three
months old blown away blown away I've
you know and studying how to release a
book launch a book there's no big
funding there's no corporation there's
no media team it's just me you know it's
me and in the podcast and the music and
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I knew that this was something that God
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okay you can sell 100 copies selling the
next 100 copies it's gonna be the hard
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like once you've kind of like you know
all your people purchased what you had
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true seeker calm you can get a copy
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welcome to the podcast my friend how are
you thank you so much I'm doing really
good troops it's so nice to be here I've
often to have you and I am loving your
book you said you're at the elemental
yeah and she was like we went live she
was just like there's so much that we
can talk about the UFOs and all of this
stuff and it's funny because like those
are some of the things I almost left out
of the book because of like some of its
kind of taboo to be talking about
spirituality or Christianity or whatever
and then bring in the UF
the plant medicine all the elementals
even but again being open honest and
authentic you got to bring it all to the
table right absolutely don't leave
anything off I mean cuz that's like it's
the thing that that like what makes you
different is the thing that like can set
people free like you're your own
uniqueness individuality that the world
says hey just be quiet about that part
people permission to speak about this
stuff because a lot of people have had
experiences but they feel like they're
they need to put it in the cloth make
you tooth you know and that's so
powerful you know absolutely just before
we get started really just a quick shout
out my friend here I didn't know this or
I just didn't remember I probably saw it
but Jonathan Santiago John Santiago Ross
he says tell Ginny I said hello I didn't
put two and two together I remember
seeing it now that I think about it but
you know so that's a he's a good brother
and I'm gonna see him I spoke about the
retreat that I got going on this weekend
he's gonna be there so he's coming for
me yeah and everybody I've just seen
traffic that way go check out Jonathan
Santiago's episode with Jennifer as well
I know it's good
I think I watched some of it but it's
been a couple months right yeah okay
yeah again welcome to the podcast before
we get started people don't know who you
are what you bring to the table just
kind of give an overview what you do who
you are introduce yourself sure I found
my journey here I was sick for seven
years diagnosed with a bunch of diseases
wound up healing myself in three weeks
and that was just by the power of my
mind and once you start opening that up
it just led to spirituality and me
diving deep I wanted to know how I did
that you know first of all and really in
it led me on a really beautiful
spiritual journey since I've just wanted
to teach other people how to use the
mind to help themselves in whichever way
possible it led to me getting training
and energy medicine like ten different
modalities and Banting my own it led to
me studying the Akashic records did like
a bunch of trainings in that I've let
I've
facilitated think over like 400 akashic
readings and clearing so really love
that work and I really love working with
people on the potential of the mind just
that we don't have to suffer no matter
what we've been through we can overcome
it and we deserve to live a happy life
my most recent I was I published a book
by Llewellyn the short path to change 30
ways to transform your life and my most
recent thing is leave leading an online
course embracing bliss really about and
the breath work energy tapping into our
ultimate potential and our soul you know
the truest part of us it's awesome yeah
you've been on a lot of podcasts and
telescopes and all that kind of stuff
making the circles doing your thing on
PBS and a bunch of other big places
where you've been able to go on and kind
of inject a little bit of healing here
and there alternative ways of thinking I
like we just did a episode a couple
weeks ago about two weeks ago and we're
talking about healing modalities and I
got a friend of mine who was trained in
and many of them and then kind of
reached this point to her like she
doesn't want one any of them she's
training all of them but to really
submit to the energy and find out what's
going on at being open she's had to like
put them off and kind of like what you
were talking about inventing your own
modality like your own way of how you
operate I've never like formally been
trained on any like I've come up in the
Christian Church and the charismatic
movement been taught to feel energy and
and send energy and that kind of thing
so there was never really any courses at
the time of how what it was called or we
just called everything Holy Spirit right
and so we sent it we could feel it all
that kind of stuff discernment negative
energies moving it and that kind of
thing and it's been something that I've
kind of invented my own as well I'm
people asking okay what what is it that
you do is like I try to explain it or
whatever but what about inventing your
own tell me a little bit more about that
absolutely it's it's working with people
and working with myself what helped me
heal what have I noticed everywhere is
the commonality between people you know
a lot of times it's that lack of
self-love lack of self-worth that it can
be a
blame or victimization or just this
disempowerment so really teaching people
to love I mean love is the answer really
you know tapping into that the infinite
love around us tapping into the love
that's within us and getting rid of a
lot of that mind chatter that stops us
from that so you know when I do a
healing session with people really just
see them as that version that true
potential of all they can be and
sometimes I will lead them in a guided
meditation sounds like you know you do
very similar things but really it's
about giving yourself credit for all the
things we've been through and all the
things that you embody because we're all
different we all have such beautiful
gifts to offer this planet so tapping
into that and loving you're basically
loving yourself whole I mean we are we
do always hold that potential for
wholeness but usually we're focusing on
weak what we don't have what we are not
what we you know are striving for
instead of just being content and loving
ourselves as is that's you just
mentioned a lot of different stuff that
you kind of got to work through and you
just mentioned it nonchalantly like you
know you told you you're never amount to
nothing you get past that and it seems
like it's gonna be years like it took
years of that trauma to set in and it to
become normal and you've gotten used to
what it feels like to be depressed and
you've gotten good at handling that
depression and things like that and it
seems like there's this vision or
version of yourself that you want to
become seems years away especially when
you finally get the vision or you see
what you want to be doing like what I
would love to do maybe 3 4 10 years down
the road it seems a long way your book
here a short path to change I think it's
more about not becoming but it's about
what you already are deep down within
and trying to bring that out and I think
it's key because my story as you read in
the book was a very quick process like I
thought it was going to take years and
it took three weeks three weeks my
physical healing wasn't three weeks yeah
it's crazy
I mean what is it with space-time and
Tom not existing and you already are
those things that you want to become
yeah but we have so many limitations on
you know just what we've been programmed
to believe oh oh that disease that's
gonna take a long time to heal from oh
oh you've been abused oh that takes
years of therapy you know I mean we've
been told these things so part of us
believes them it's it's really locating
those limiting thoughts and freeing
ourselves from them and one of the
things to it and I recently got over
this is like because I've went through
inner healing and counseling and
deliverance and that kind of thing and
it was a long drawn-out process it's
like we're gonna meet with you three
weeks it was good for me like there was
an anticipation there was a checklist
that I had to take home and go over my
background and my hurts and that I ever
do this I've ever heard these thoughts
in my head and it was a really it like
an introspective thing and so I got to
take it home and do it and go meet with
the people and come back and go meet
with the people and then like on after
the third session we were gonna go in
and like undo that stuff or whatever and
so there's a long drawn-out process so
for me to take someone through it like I
can only give you a piece of it quickly
because the rest of its gonna be like
okay I got to have several sessions with
you you got to do this you got to do
that so I would kind of avoid it I would
try to just do the work that I could do
in one session I went and met with some
friends a couple weeks ago a couple
months ago now and we went through a
session trying to move through some
trauma and things like that for me they
were doing some work on me and we pretty
much did everything that I did with this
other couple years ago but in like 20
minutes I think you know I had it in my
head that okay I'm doing that stuff for
you it's gonna take a long time but it's
not the case right it is not the case
and there are so many tools now and I
think things are speeding up and people
are more open to these things it's not
as taboo you know your book is so
beautiful and that is that it allows
people to talk about these things it
opens the conversation for things that
yeah I mean people might have you know
10 years ago been oh if I mentioned that
people are gonna think I'm crazy you
know I did mention that and they did
okay now I'm you know somebody I know I
never mentioned waving my arms around
people you know what sending them energy
or sending energy at a distance or
Akashic record reading was another you
know it wasn't in my frame of reference
but I think that opening that dialog is
really important because a lot of people
have had experiences they can't really
explain you know but it's almost like
they're afraid to go there so opening
that what was it that uh kind of
imparted that to you have you had any
experiences as a kid that kind of opened
you up to the realm of the Spirit and
the supernatural and Otherworld and
things like that when you were when you
were little or I did I had one
experience where I was well now I know
it was like an astral projection but
then I didn't know what it was but I had
left my body and gone two doors over a
friend of mine was dating someone and I
had gone into his apartment which I had
never been in before and kind of looked
around saw his you know his parents
doing stuff and him doing stuff and then
like a month later I went to the
apartment and it was the same exact
layout same furniture and everything so
it was validation for me that hey wait
just a weird dream that was something
concrete that it happens that's
interesting having those weird
encounters and in the spirit like that
and uh you know like it helps us again
like readings material or watching the
movie or something will unlock something
in you that you experienced when you
were little and it gives you a frame of
reference even till I go back and like
it's so weird like it's almost like
watching a movie like I'm really big
into those reverse movies like the
secret window like watching one movie
and then at the end there's a piece of
information that comes in that totally
flips the movie and it really undoes
everything that you learned about the
character who that person was their
songs that are like that Eminem just put
out a new song and it's like that it's
like a double entendre
you think it's about one thing but then
once you have this new information Oh
we have these glasses now that you can
see because you were seeing through a
glass darkly now you look back at it and
all of these things start to make sense
those weird dreams I was having they
were because of this they were because
of conversations I had they were because
of ancestral ancestors trying to come
back and communicate with me about hurt
and healing and just so much stuff and
like we have like a frame of reference
now to look back at our childhood hurt
and weird experiences and stuff too and
that's so cool yeah I can't get enough
learning you know I'm always taking
courses I'm always wanting to read I'm
always wanting to learn more because it
does it just it is like puzzle pieces
like you said in the beginning it's
puzzle pieces fitting together and it
just gets more and more exciting and
interesting yeah for sure I've I'm back
and forth with the learning thing I mean
I'm I think I do the majority of my
learning here with the guests you know
you know to two hours an hour and a half
whatever we do like two times a week
sometimes three times a week and I get
so much information in the chat in the
community I'm picking up so much so
there's not like back in the day I would
watch a lot of documentaries and all
this kind of stuff you know which I
still try to get in and in reading and
stuff but like the guest brings so much
to the table and help me help me connect
the dots you know and in my life and my
belief systems and structures and things
like that so podcast has really been a
huge tool for me of learning and being
open with with the guests of stuff too
so when you uh when you got sick and
what what led you to like energy healing
and was that you try it you exhausted
every other option and nothing didn't
heal by energy healing I did actually
there were a couple things you know I
had become a mom it was I was the rolls
all the roles that I was spouse mom
daughter you know had really been very
hard on myself had done all the
traditional methods of healing and I was
a psych major
you know graduated with BA in Psych and
there were a couple things that fell
into place one was I meant
and then actually walks them I was very
against pain pills very against
medications but I'd actually like take a
pain pill to go for a walk and walking
in nature with her I started to remember
who I I other than those roles you know
and then I saw the movie the secret
unlocks something else in me in that I
wasn't paying attention to gratitude I
wasn't I was telling my body I was sick
every morning I wasn't focusing on what
was beautiful and what was you know
wonderful and the fact that parts of my
body didn't hurt so in three weeks I
just focused all my energy on I stopped
seeing doctors and I focused all my
energy on you know the good things and
telling my body you know well this part
doesn't hurt hurt then maybe that's
healthy you know and there are healthy
stuff my body and it was right after I
healed and playing all the different
healing modality is the first thing that
came into my life was um I put a bunch
of books on my wish list Amazon wish
list made got in the book the
reconnection by Eric pearl and when I
helped that book at my hand I first of
all I don't even remember putting that
book of a list but when I held that book
of my hand
I started vibrating and I was like what
is this you know and I read the book and
I knew I had obsession and things
started happening around me lights would
go on and off you know I remember being
in a party in the microwave started
doing all these weird things my friends
like that's her doing you know and I had
a lamp that was on and not plugged in
like just weird stuff and started
feeling energy and that just really led
me to wow we are like so much more you
know and and led to me getting you know
certified and reconnected healing which
just opened me up further and getting an
Akashic record reading and just yeah it
couldn't get enough you know once I
started feeling energy I was like wow
what is this and how do I harness it and
what are the different ways it can help
me and how can I help others with it
that's interesting you said that about
the vibrating book thing there was a guy
and I interviewed him and and he talked
about just having the book and maybe
this put the stuff in my head or just
gave me a frame of reference or whatever
like a belief system almost like the
secret
you believe it and you create it because
you believe in and you confess it you
know and it's real it's here it's just
as how simple it is really but I
interviewed a guy he put out a book and
he was like just having the book you
don't even use like you don't even have
to read it just buy it and keep it
around you and you'll be able to feel
the energy I was like that's a great
selling point you know you know and but
it was it was interesting because like
when I put my book out I felt like it
was a relic I mean it's a lot of hard
work you know that's like embodied it's
a life story it's so much research right
so for me I mean even the covers a matte
finish for me it just feels interesting
holding it and then I was getting
messages again going back to John
Santiago was like he said he got the
package from UPS or whatever grabbed it
he said he felt the book vibrating in
his hands
like this is weird transference of lace
and like other people who are now
experiencing it and it's something
that's a thing the other people talk
about it they'll buy the book and
they'll just hold it and be able to like
download the information and not even
have to read it you know some
interesting and I love your cover is
gorgeous absolutely and have the
pictures in there as well thank you
thank you yeah the guy did an amazing
job kind of came through last minute
there were so many submissions I had and
none of them were that night last minute
boom knocked out the park and I was just
blown away but just the fact that like
we're able to feel the energy and
intention and even with an object right
people talk about having cursed objects
and you know I inherited this dresser
and this dresser brought spirits with it
and you know clothing that I got from
somebody that died in this clothes and
there was like there was a friend of
mine years ago when he was younger
their parents told them not to buy
clothes from the goodwill because
somebody might have died clothing and
that was just this weird belief that
they had that they wouldn't have
anything use but like if there's
something that can be cursed a cursed
object that you don't have and can bring
negative spirits or whatever oh I
totally didn't it could be a blessing a
blessed object to wait for one to be
true the other has to be true as well
absolutely and I
to Akashic home clearings and a lot of
times that's real fine
yeah antiques carry that energy you know
but again you can have an object that's
just blessed with love you know so there
are it works both ways yeah yeah yeah
yeah it doesn't instances in the
scriptures were like the Apostle Paul
sent out handkerchiefs that they blessed
and prayed for and the person but this
because their faith was so high they
were like just send this to them and if
I can touch it I'll be healed
much like the Jesus stain let me touch
the hem of His garment I don't think
there was really anything like special
about his the cloak or tunic that he was
wearing but it was that person's faith
that I believe that's negative and I'll
say I hate that I'm plugging the book so
much but I've had people who I've sent
the book to who wanted to interview me
in it and they had the negative they had
the reverse all that book is some dark
energy and they were like a really
Christian like never heard of any of
this stuff
they said they were really deep and they
were ready for some next-level stuff so
you want to interview me sure check out
the book and for them it was a different
experience and so interestingly enough
two people can have a polar opposite
experience with a neutral object what
belief system or you know and that's the
weird thing when it comes to any of the
modalities or stay away from Reiki stay
away from stay away from pastors you
know what I'm saying like because people
have had their projecting their
experience in China like like manipulate
someone else to have a similar
experience and not even know it the same
thing with hey touch this book and it's
gonna heal you touch this book and
you're gonna just be blessed by having
it around and speaking that out creates
and people are experiencing that stuff
you know podcast is doing - yeah this
conversation yep unlocking things in
people that they kind of they a lot of
them have an inkling within them but
they don't have no proof they don't have
a frame of reference - to prove this
stuff you know but sometimes it does
feel like a remembering though for sure
100% for me it was like there was a lot
of
you don't came out of the church realm
or whatever and there was a lot of
things that were just like downloaded in
my spirit that I felt like I already
knew and then for me I needed biblical
scriptures to kind of like that was my
like plumb line if you will and so like
I would I knew these things but until I
read them in the scripture they would
they weren't truth to me but then God
just started like showing me all of this
wild far-out next level of the secret
manifestation Law of Attraction
universal law all within the Bible and
it's okay you want proof i'ma give you
proof you know the person God this kind
of works like that you know it kind of
gives you what you're looking for you
know that's why what you're talking
about looking for the good your
attention and intention and trying to
look at those thoughts that are
contributing to that programming and do
you want to stay within that belief
system are you ready to open up to
something bigger you know because we can
all do that but we have to be willing
what are some of the ways to get started
I know there's different you know I
think that getting people just in the
energy you know what I'm saying getting
people in the flow and that's a big a
big part it's like hey it's gonna do
what it do the energy is gonna come it's
gonna hear you whatever you need that I
don't know what I'm not picking up what
you're not picking up it knows the Holy
Spirit it knows what you need and
whatever that trauma is so getting them
in that trance state if you will and
letting them just feel the flow and even
now talking about it I can feel it
like that I know heart of it right yeah
and I mean I have people that like I
love having people rub their hands
together for like 30 seconds 45 seconds
you know I'm just holding their hands
apart they're like whoa what is that you
know just to feel that tingles and the
energy that's always within us it is
that attention and intention if you
close your eyes after that and imagine
that energy like going through your body
I mean any part of your body you put
that attention to you're gonna feel the
energy so just that like awakening it
and that attention it's exciting you
know and you become like childlike again
oh cool you know and if you can get past
the mind shatter and just be into it
because kids can feel it in two seconds
like the Reconnective healing it was so
interesting for for adults it was a
two-day all-day workshop for kids two
and a half hours because the kids don't
have that mind chatter well I'm not
gonna feel it well what about this well
you know so to be in that childlike
state and just feel like wow that's
really cool you know and that feels
really nice and warm and I'm gonna feel
that through my body and give myself
permission to just allow instead of
forcing something and that's really it
to just being in that state of receiving
and allowing and quiet and not always
doing and that's the hardest thing these
days because we have so many
distractions you know to sit and do
nothing and to ask yourself to receive
ask yourself to feel loved concentrate a
lot of times I'll have my clients
concentrate on the best moment of their
life close their eyes feel that with
every part of your body because we have
no trouble going to the worst part you
know we live in those harsh memories
over and over again but we don't give
ourselves permission to be in those
beautiful moments for long periods of
time so even that you can just feel that
energy in you and feel things start to
change man that's something I had to
really embody of getting over my fear of
flying just two weeks ago was like and I
knew it right then and so when I went
and got the healing from some friends
they dealt with that the fear of flying
and I brought it up I was gonna cancel
the the flight you know the buddy might
wanted me to marry him and they were
gonna fly me to Denver and I was like
trying to make up excuses because I was
scared to fly and so I brought it up to
the friends that I was with and they're
like listen we could deal with that
let's deal with that fear of flying we
can deal with that really quick that's
nothing
so we dealt with it I felt really good
like I gave it to God and just it went
through their modality felt good
couldn't wait to get back home it's
about a three-hour drive to email my
friend and say hey look the flight let's
make it happen right I felt so good but
then a week out it was like 2 or 3
months ahead a week out uh-oh would you
do like I felt it like getting small
like I fell I watched pictures of air
videos of people on airplanes and it
just looked so small and it was scaring
me like because I'm severely I was
severely kosta phobic and I was I was
thinking about like how can I get out of
this they've already booked it I would
watch that stuff in the weird thing is
it's like a week out I was feeling the
weird pains in my body it was scaring me
and I would I literally felt stress in
being released through my body but then
I would look at pictures of the mountain
range of Denver and immediately oh yeah
we're going baby
hey guys wanted to talk to you about
something really quick you all know that
we champion doing the inner work there's
a website that I've been blessed to be
able to partner with called better help
calm they allow you to get an online
counselor and talk about anything that
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my wife see this and if you don't do it
you holding your wife back not just you
you know and so these things it's like
so when I would get scared I would
immediately look at the picture and I
mean immediately it would bring me to
like oh you're able to release the
endorphins in my body and the positive
chemical reaction that your brain has
with with a good experience and uh and
it works you know as we said we have no
problem
going to the negative stuff like by
default so we get how to get out of it
you know it's about a fault we're just
like this is all a lot and we have to
like actively you know choose the
positive you know yeah but again we've
been programmed with that too like I
mean I grew up I don't watch it anymore
but I grew up watching news first
stories always the most horrific you
know it's always we're just kind of
programmed to go to that negative aspect
so it is up to us to watch ourselves
mindfulness is key you know paying
attention to what you're saying yourself
all day because a lot of times it's not
positive yeah this big is huge it comes
into what you're talking about with the
secret the law of attraction those kind
of things because you're you're creating
it as you speak it you know the whole
old Hebraic alchemical formula of the
word abracadabra literally means I
created as I speak it and so as I speak
or I create as I speak or I create as I
breathed almost like going back to we
were made in the image of a Creator God
that spoke the universe that spoke
things into existence and that's who
were connected when we're mate where we
are creators made in the image of a
creator so our voice the Bible says that
the power of life and death is in the
tongue and we create that stuff you can
think it thinking it's one thing
thinking about good stuff all the time
but speaking it telling people
introducing yourself and that's how you
create it yeah it's like when the heart
and the mind join with the breath and
vibration manifestation is made
absolutely yeah and it is it's amazing
when people do start feeling this work
because there's like they can start
manifesting really quickly and then
there's almost like a step back like
wait like that's scary that I'm so
powerful you know and I will find
clients like they'll manifest like crazy
and then it's almost like there's a
roadblock up like hey wait no that's too
scary for me yeah so giving ourselves
permission yes we do deserve everything
to be wonderful in our lives what we do
for a living our relationship where we
live you know financially free you know
to travel or do whatever we want but so
many people just don't feel that they
feel
like life is meant to struggle you know
and to be challenges over and over again
and if we're standing in our power yeah
we're gonna have life happens you know
and we're gonna have these challenges
come up but we're gonna mean so much a
better place to deal with them and to
see the gifts in them and some of the
hardest challenges are our greatest
gifts you know if I was not sick for
seven years I would not be doing what
I'm doing now you know which brings me
absolute joy and passion so really just
you know stopping that judgment so much
of ourselves and everything going on
around us and being present to it and
letting it unfold and putting our energy
where we want it our energy and our
intention yeah you talked about um it
happening so fast and I know you read in
the book like that's what happened to me
it happened so fast it scared me and of
being an energy healer and booking
sessions and wanting to do this for a
living and something that seat and it's
probably because I've seen it so far
away like there was a disconnect like
literally it was three years out but but
in my mind but it was three weeks out
not even three months like it really I
wanted it so bad I was ready to submit
to the process to move anything out the
way that God's Spirit was showing me
that I needed to that was blocking me
it's like you can have it but this this
and this is something that you can't
take with you like I got Ascension and
higher levels for you but this stuff is
kind of holding you down let these three
things go and you'll be able to access
it and literally like there was like
character flaws or or hurt or whatever
it was to heal from that stuff let it go
and I manifested it so quickly that like
I'm booked like two weeks out with
clients and I loved it it's an excuse to
get an energy I'm helping them and
healing is just flowing it was so
beautiful but like it scared me so quick
because it's like man I thought this was
gonna be three years out I didn't know
we're doing it this quick but it just
shows you how fast manifestation can't
happen I remember I want it I'll say
this I wanted to start doing some
concerts a couple years ago and I did a
session with it with a friend of mine
just on here on an interview years ago
and he was like is there any anything
that you want to unlock I was like yeah
I want to do some more concerts haven't
done any and he did what he calls an
infinity healing and it's just like say
yes do you want this yes
I mean systole he's just like empowering
you agreeing and I said yes and then I I
set the intention out there got off the
phone with him or whatever the next day
I remember speaking it out kind of going
to God like bringing it to the God and
the saying I would like this I'd you
know declare it I know you have it for
me and within an hour like one of the
biggest shows I've ever done someone
called me up and said hey are you
available to open up for one of your
favorite rappers oh my god like
literally I just saw God on this we did
an infinity heel and spoke it into
existence and it was so amazing and it
did little things like that just kind of
it what it does is it build your faith
it so [Â __Â ] manifest a concert [Â __Â ]
manifested I can manifest a career at
this I can manifest that I can do this
so it's about really about being clean
open and honest with yourself and doing
the inner work doing the inner healing
that's what's gonna block it but once
you're open to that process it's it's
all game baby like it's just it's scary
but it's fun yeah like the inner healing
stuff is sexy now like people are like
they want it I'm people going after
ayahuasca experiences and yeah you know
magic mushroom experiences psilocybin
because they know that it's a teacher
that wants to heal them you say hey you
wanna heal and come see me I got you man
and so they're coming to us they're
booking sessions hey I heard what you
did for so-and-so I love what you're
doing how can I do it okay here's how
you do it you know and it's crazy but
but it's so popular right now it is
growing it was taboo 10 years ago to say
I'm an energy healer now everybody's
energy LA you know so we all can heal
each other and race to the next level
man yeah it is beautiful and it's
interesting my mom just got diagnosed
with stage four cancer and I've been
saying the last 10 years I would love I
don't know if I'll see it in my lifetime
but I would love if I go to doctor
for them to say no death sentence and
you know what incorporate every medicine
incorporate energy medicine corporate
spirituality and this experience with my
mom every doctor has said that it's
about spirituality it's about positivity
no one's given a death sentence
everyone's like I've seen people live a
long time you know science will say this
but and it's like I feel like I
contributed to that too like that that
energy of like this is what what it's
gonna be it's still mind-blowing like
every doctor I've been to I'm like
really you're saying this but that's
it's so empowering to see that things
are shifting you know you know in in
traditional medicine as well it's
becoming more common practice for
doctors to speak differently which is
beautiful which opens up you know
infinite potential we went and this is
this has been a man 2 years ago maybe
three my grandmother got diagnosed with
like liver failure kidney failure all of
these hepatitis all just crazy stuff at
once and they were like they said she
has like a month to live so they called
the family hey let's come to a cookout
get the family together you know and
kind of say goodbye tight deal and but
we but we prayed and asked for healing
and and this was like I said two years
ago and I gave her a month to live she
went to the doctor all there was a
misdiagnosis she's okay you know it was
kind of weird because like some of my
family were upset because they were like
you know that thing like letting go and
death is yeah like so they finally this
is it
I'm gonna tell you goodbye and then it's
like no it's not goodbye even though
like I don't want to take you know that
I did it but we said the prayer we asked
in faith and we believed it wasn't just
like a hope we believed it right if this
is you will that she's gonna be here and
you know get the raise her grandchildren
and be a blessing to people and and it
happen it means it doesn't always happen
but
you know those happen yeah and that's
just nice I'd never thought I'd hear
doctors say anything like that or
validate that so it's been so beautiful
to experience that tear them you know
recommend spirituality and positivity is
mind blowing you know and it does give
me hope you know future more holistic
integrative medicine there's a couple
different articles that have been like
kind of like going viral and people been
picking up and maybe doing their own
study I don't know if supposedly it's
it's backed by doctor studies and things
like that but so there's this article
that says our organs have their own
consciousness and we can talk to them
yeah I was just telling my mom that this
morning and I know that I did that with
my body because when you're sick and in
pain you are concentrating all that
energy on that part that hurt I mean and
I remember being like wow my legs hurt
why don't my legs hurt you know and and
being in that but then I turned my
energy to focusing on the parts that
were working well and focusing on my
cells that I had healthy cells and you
know I love you healthy cells thanks for
you know creating more healthy cells in
my body and things shifted so quickly
yeah that's um being able to speak to it
I mean we didn't we get into like
speaking and communicating with
everything not just not just people but
the cells and people you know speaking
to their to their cells
speaking to plants you know there was a
whole thing like it's kind of a weird
taboo thing but people speak to their
plants so that they'll grow better they
speak to flowers and and and they
remember working for the city and there
was this old lady that like made the
guys speak to the plants and and they
would joke about it but they but they
really believed it and and I was science
about how we're connected and doing
podcasting interviews with people who
are like you know what I'm saying
neurologists and psychotherapists and
psychology no wonder they're like yeah
yeah
you were loved one of my friends is an
herbalist and she does music of the
plants where she hooks up the plant to
this machine that and their light makes
music so it is absolutely gorgeous you
know and the plant will you'll almost
hear it like here itself and try to
figure out the beats and then it will
like do like a beautiful melody and
you're like it's almost like you're
giving it the opportunity the hey you
have a song you haven't heard it is very
cool so I mean I'm so excited about
where we are now and just see that
potential opening up more and more I
mean science hasn't been able to prove a
lot of the stuff that we've been talking
about but I think it is finally catching
up slowly and also people are just more
open because so many people have had
experiences now like you can't just say
okay there's that one person you know
they must be crazy you know there are
too many people that have had similar
and shared experiences yeah man it's a
whole
I just recently interviewed a husband
and wife separately and and it was just
all about that's what they do and
they're like all in it and it was so
funny because he was talking about how
like the whole time he was like Robin he
was picking up he had to have different
essential oils and and little things and
he would pick up and he'd smell it
which I'd do that and make you feel but
he he would take somebody he'd wipe it
on his face and he's got like purple
marks cuz it's like plants and like it
was just so crazy but at the end of it I
was like I think he's on something
because by the end of the the interview
he was just so open and it was like
really the the conversation got very
more interesting more intricate deeper
as we went on working with the plants
that allowed they work with you and open
you up in our connection to a man and
just and what we're starting to I mean
all the stuffs catching on again the
ayahuasca stuff and people taking this
journey and I think like you know these
podcasts really do work like they helped
I mean that's what I mean what helped me
and
brace my identity and who I was was
listening to podcasts and listen to
other people be authentic and it lit a
fire within me it kind of made me
jealous but I used it for a good good
measure I didn't get get jealous and get
bitter I got jealous and see how I can
incorporate that into my life how can I
do that how can I heal people how can I
wake up and do a session with someone
for the day and be able to keep my
lights on you know how can I use my
resources and all of my content that
I've created to build a life that is
sustainable and and be a blessing to my
family and things like that and you see
people doing it and it lets you know
again going back to us at the beginning
like God the universe is not a respecter
of persons if you did it for this person
to do it for you it's do you know it's
the it's law and I believe it you know
and I'm I'm a living witness to that you
know and people talk about different
modalities and systems and even with a a
I was a big time where like when I was
in church we're all Christians are
against a a 12 steps and you need one
step and it needs to be the Jesus right
but all the systems work if you work it
like if you do it right it'll work for
you you know and so that's the beautiful
thing that is God is not a respective
person it's for anybody that wants it I
love that there are so many different
modalities because people are gonna
resonate with different ways of hearing
things you know and they could hear 20
people but the 21st way it said or the
21st modality resonates and that's
beautiful you know and that opens them
up to other stuff after that yep so I
don't feel like I mean even though there
are million energy healers now I say
bring it you know let's let's all be
energy healers because we are you know
we all have that power within us yeah
yeah it's um I think we're remembering I
don't think that we're becoming even
with that I think that is something that
was caught like common knowledge so to
our ancestors and at a certain period
and uh and people get better at it than
others and people focus on it but it's
lighting a fire within people to focus
on it you know to deal with their hurt
to deal with their darkness and again
like you said like your relationship
with the sickness that you had like you
have a different
lationship with it now then you did
while you were in it but you're thankful
for it now because it taught you
something that you couldn't learn from
any book you know absolutely imparted
something to you absolutely wouldn't
have said that then but it is a lot of
times that a hardest challenge we can
learn from and we know what we're made
of - we made it through that you know
and the more we love ourselves through
it and are not judging ourselves or
putting a timetable on it like you know
and that's a hard thing when I do work
with cancer clients and stuff like if
you're so hard on yourself or if you're
saying I must instead of just allowing
you know it's a different thing you
can't really force the universe it's
about allowing and sometimes if we force
it's kind of we get that message hey oh
yeah you think so ha you know and the
opposite happens so it really is you
know tuning in allowing trusting that
faith is so important and it's
challenging with people who have had
their faith tested before you know and
don't really really have that deep faith
in themselves in the universe of God in
everything to be okay you know so
healing that part of themselves that
does have that resistance to it so that
they can move into that total faith and
openness yeah I remember in the church
you know there would be like and it was
just some weird little cliche it was
like don't ask for patience because God
will make you wait
it was like a fear like a weird phobia
of like to never say it because it was
like a truth or whatever like if you ask
for because then your prayers are gonna
be delayed just weird like even in the
church there's just weird like ungodly
like damaging belief systems that you
know so many of them in like I'm just
something little like that when it cuz
when it comes to time how fast something
should happen there's no such thing as
time you already all that stuff and just
bringing it out of you it's already
within you that's why you desire it God
put it there for a reason maybe you need
a right understanding of it approach you
from a different perspective you know
things like that but it's it's already
in you for a reason one of the things
you mentioned
kind of want to go back to is just the
fact that the energy and how we're
supposed to be childlike and going back
to the scriptures like Jesus said that
like if you want to inherit the kingdom
you must become like these little
children carefree simple faith trust and
believe and just want to they have no
expectations they're just here and it's
funny because like I used a term play in
the energy hey we're just gonna play in
the energy and so and for some reason
even me saying that kind of like oh you
you just gonna play in it huh you don't
respect it you won't play in it it's
like yeah like a child like to be and to
really play in dancing the energy like
movement and light and sound and
approaching it like a child man is so
powerful you know in the world tries to
tell us to grow up and and you know be
dignified and put the collar on and but
which would you know children at heart
and that's the way that we am they like
try to take away from us the very thing
that we need to enter the kingdom of
light energy and sound is to be like a
child you know carefree yeah whatever
connects you to that and that's another
thing i prescribed joy to my clients
what brings you that joy is that dancing
around you're living around with music
you know is it singing top of your lungs
in your car like what what brings you
that joy and that just creative
expression and do it you know make sure
you do it every day because people don't
make time for that they almost feel
guilty you know if they're engaging in
that but as kids that's all we do is
play you know and it's getting back to
giving ourselves that permission and
that's what connects us to God and our
true selves and the innermost part of us
and love you know is really however we
can creatively express and feel that joy
brings us that power brings us that
peace and also that faith that life
isn't horrible you know life is can be
very beautiful and we need to reaffirm
that in ourselves over and over and over
again but you know instead of
reaffirming all the negative memories or
the tragedies and the traumas like
working through those but if we have joy
in our life it's a lot easier
to work through those do you think that
that it's not again something that we
have to become but something that we
already are like that all we still
little kids on the inside and we just
cover saunas and stuff cuz like there's
so much revelation there you know
becoming a child again or embracing your
freedom and I'll tell you what and I'm
just gonna throw this out there one of
the biggest things for me as a as a kid
was like that one of the biggest fears I
had was had to deal with time but it was
the weekend and a countdown for Monday
morning to come back and have to go back
to school or being spending not spending
the nights with my friends we'd be lost
in just having fun playing video games
playing toys and things like that
playing football outside but Sunday it
would be like that countdown I know in a
couple hours I got to go home and we got
a you know so there was just weird
anxiety that was there it was slight but
it was weird
now that anxiety came with this weird
schooling thing and say we can't be a
kid now you have to be a student now you
have to learn or whatever you have to
play a role be good no football nothing
and then when I got older working a
regular job it was it was there to like
you know Sunday night I got a I got to
go a whole week got to go even like
sometimes they let you go home on the
weekends or they'd let you go home every
night but on the weekends you kind of
got those days off like in school when
there was that weird anxiety that would
build up Sunday like up gotta go back
into the work got to get the grind got
to punch that clock in got to make the
donuts you know but I felt the same
anxiety that I felt as a kid and it was
almost like creeping death or like your
clock is ticking
you only get a little bit while longer
and I'll tell you that that's been one
of the things that has been defeated in
my life that's been there since I was a
kid of like you know my my father-in-law
he's retired and he went worked
his whole life and woodwork I mean
sometimes doing shift work and even like
seven days on like that was scary
there were times where nobody would get
any you didn't get no days off on
certain jobs and that was even more
scarier because that kids like I didn't
want to be there on my mind I was
somewhere else some people are good they
love changing tires that love changing
oil they love taking apart engines and
motors and that's they're good but me I
was never there I'm always playing
football I'm always in the video game
world I'm always wanting to do what
we're doing right now right I'm always
here but it was so far away
and that anxiety of you gotta gotta go
to work you know well it would still be
there it's been to feed it now that my
father going back to my father I he was
he said every day of Saturday literally
every day is Saturday and and that's you
know for me now every day is Saturday
yeah I'm not 60 years old you know what
I'm saying like that's out when you do
what you love for a living
you'll never have to work again deserve
to feel like that and we all have those
things that resonate within us that can
that we can do you know I've met a woman
that loved to be a school bus driver for
me that would be a nightmare gives all
day but we all have these little things
to bring us joy and also if you are in a
job like say you got up for now you know
you got to work during the day and bring
me in little bits of joy during the day
you know I'll tell my clients go to the
restroom do a little Lennart run a
little letter do you know going to the
day imagining the one person that you
love to see and focus on that you know
it really is our intention to and yeah
even even doing this is still like you
got to be mindful right do what you're
doing cuz you can get caught up in the
monotony Oh another pie trust me I've
been there another podcast another
meditation another song I just released
a song now they want to know that you
know being in the flow and staying in
this place of creativity where
like it's not on-demand it's supposed to
be because you're doing it for a living
but it's like okay I have to stay in the
flow like that's hard to that's a whole
nother place of challenges that come how
can I creatively you know I'm doing this
I'm gonna keep it up but I got I have to
increase it I have to bring something
else to the table so it comes with its
own every level that you attain it comes
with its own set of challenges and rules
and releases you to another level
after that just like the video game you
have to fight the boss and once you get
to kind of take his armor or take his
weapon or special ability and you go to
the next level that has harder enemies
and different characters and just it's
the same way but it's just trust in the
process you know enjoying the journey
too you know I mean each part you're
learning stuff you're having experiences
you're meeting new people you're you
know enjoying it and not trying to rush
those you know three years or five years
but really being present to everything
looks unfolding I posted a lyric from a
song life's a journey not a destination
I think I posted it yesterday from the
song from the band Aerosmith they for
some reason it was just stuck in my head
just about the journey in the process
and but one thing you just said and this
has been something really interesting
for me too because especially coming
from the Christian realm was like God
wants everybody to prosper God wants
everybody to be happy you know and so
it's like you know I know you don't want
to be happy but God wants you to be
happy like that kind of thing and you
said that whoever desires it like you
know not desire but you deserve it and
and I've approached I approached it for
a long time with that that you everyone
deserves it it made me look at people
especially walking in my truth and being
by doing what I'm doing a podcaster and
I mean these people listen and they want
to do what we're doing right so that's
who we're supposed to talk to what we're
talking to other person who's content
where they are they just they love it
sometimes I but I had to keep that in
mind I had to learn that I thought that
like everyone needed to be doing because
the burning desire within me was for
some reason you think that it was in
everyone else to do that
to like quit their job and become a heel
or quit the job and be a rapper you know
what I'm saying
but the whole thing was deserve it you
deserve it there was a book that I read
a really short book it's a pamphlet by
Manley P Hall which was called magic and
he talked about white grey and black
magic and the different levels of it and
what it was and just how life is magical
and intention is key those kind of
things but at the very end of the book
was the deepest part because there was a
good four five pages about what you
deserve and people think that God wants
you to be blessed or God wants you to be
happy
its forth it's not for everyone like
everyone if it was easy then everyone
would do it but it's for the person that
works for it you have to put in the
hours you have to do the research you
have to do the sessions like you have to
want it it's not given to everybody and
so me reading that and how like the
scripture says that like the promises of
God are yes and amen
and what that interpretate stew is
whatever you put out goddess the
universe is responding back to you with
a echoing yes and amen oh you know I'm
broke I'm ain't never gonna have enough
money I'm never gonna find my spouse
every although there's no girls that are
into me you know I know friends who say
this stuff in the universe yep
yes the name is you know and you you
again by default we don't know this but
if they would change their of their
verbage up if they would yell into the
canyon yelling to the Gulf it's gonna
echo back to them and it's I'm blessed
I'm more than a conqueror I'm the
righteousness of God created in Christ
Jesus to do good works you know all of
these good I am Zandi animations the
universe God is saying back to you yes
in amen you are yeah you are I have a
podcast that's gonna touch thousands of
millions of people it's gonna change
their life for the good they're going to
walk in their destiny they're gonna be
inspired when they hear this
conversation like again going back to
the affirmations we still
have to do it it is hard it becomes our
truth it is right yeah but again you're
always talking to yourself anyway so may
as well change it to things that you
want and things that are gonna benefit
and weird thing is let's say some people
say you don't like some people say that
there's people were just like there's
this my I've never encountered that
though I mean we always have something
gone I mean if you don't have the inner
dialogue when you're at total peace
right state of bliss but usually that
dialogue maybe they're not hearing it I
mean some people most people don't hear
it it's so ingrained and especially if
it's like messages from parents or
teachers or bad relationships sorry you
know we church we call it a Satan of the
devil
it's the inner critic yeah it is that
inner critic takes on whatever
personification of what religion you are
but it's the same thing it is we need
cheerleader it's like treat ourselves
like we would our best friend treat
ourselves like we would any loved one
you know we would never talk to our
loved ones the way we talked to
ourselves so switching that up so we can
be loving and supportive and and have
that picture to allow ourselves to dream
about what we want and claim it
like you said voicing it is so important
you know and that I am presence earning
it
you know like owning it and also like
knowing you deserve it and there's
nothing you have to do you already are
yeah yeah yeah yeah
which leads you to what you have to do
what you already are
you know it's following it that the
energy PS the Holy Spirit the inner
guidance system that's within you and
and looking at this thing again the
sovereignty of God and you've read the
book that my belief of that like all of
this stuff is created even the inner
critic it's like there for a reason
the the different when I talk about the
bosses that you face in the video games
it's like the different idols and and
Giants and things that we come to you
know that we have to fight it we have to
overcome because there's a promised land
on the other side but that's like
articulated in
created by the creator like that thing
that thing is a created thing it was
created by a higher intelligence with
all of what the intelligence that it has
what it can do to you the weapons that
it has somebody programmed this it's a
program but it's a beautiful one if you
make it that if you if you're able to
learn how to you you might play that
same stage and fight that same boss
twenty times some of you turn the game
off you get to a point you know they
can't do it and and we're learning we're
unlocking the de generational knowledge
that we're unlocking is becoming common
knowledge now again it's becoming
popular now we can have the conversation
we you know when I was younger this was
nothing I mean you've few and far
between I having this type of
conversation not everyone's doing it and
it reminds me again I'm going back to
the video game thing of like my parents
would try to play Mario just yes
couldn't jump there was a little hole at
the beginning and there was a little
monster you had to jump over a Koopa
Troopa what I was called couldn't jump
over the first one that generation had
no idea it just didn't work it didn't
resonate with them it was different
they had Atari pong pac-man is a little
bit more advanced but now we have like
fully immersive oh yeah you know virtual
reality and things that suck you in but
it's like it was given to this
generation to understand it and and and
now that the next generations are
evolving and just like well I'm talking
about the video games I'm just using it
as an example with spirituality with
inner healing I think it works both ways
on the degradation degradation as well
like on the other side of like bad stuff
and not processing they're kind of like
both advancing at the same time but the
healing is there you know all of this
stuff is there in its privy to you and
you everyone has access to it absolutely
it's it's feeling that we deserve it you
know and again that self-worth can you
undo
can you forgive you no can you forgive
yourself can you forgive up forgive
others can you are you ready to get are
you ready to let go of whatever has been
holding you back you know are you ready
to let go that story and and move
forward and sometimes people get so
scared by facing it but they'll just
push it down you know but then it's
always it's gonna manifest someway in
your body emotionally in your
relationships so you know allowing it to
come up and look at it you know shines
light on it and that's how we can move
past it and heal it what is some
oponopono that's you're that you're into
popular one I clicked on clicked on a
video the other day I forgot he was one
of the main practitioners of it and I've
just metalli yeah and I'm getting like
emails like crazy about joining and
stuff like that not because I clicked on
the video but what would it what is that
for people who don't know so it's a
Hawaiian form of healing and it's four
sentences really simple one of the first
things I give to my clients and it's
based on that we are always creating our
reality and at soul level we are perfect
but we kind of forget that so it's the
four sentences is I love you I'm sorry
so can be I'm sorry for all these
restrictions I'm putting on you I'm
sorry I have all this negative self-talk
I love you I'm sorry please forgive me
thank you and I always say to start with
ourselves because that's where the most
healing needs to happen but it's really
powerful if we do it on anything in our
life say we have an issue with money we
do it for money say we have an issue
with our abuser that you know from
childhood to say it for that person not
okay I love you you know but like think
of that that person hurt people hurt
people
you know if someone was abusive to you
they were probably abused so to say it
picturing that person as the little kid
you know we're picturing that person as
this other being of God that was just in
circumstances they couldn't control but
when you say I love you I'm sorry please
forgive me thank you
shifting that energy you're not putting
blame you're not putting victimization
you're just owning that that piece of
how we're seeing things and you're
shifting the energy so much I've had
people do this and it shifts
relationships I've had people do this
through work environments anything that
we can do to shift the energy around us
because we bring energy wherever we go
way before we even show up our energy is
there yes life is already you type do so
controlling it and again when we save
this prayer for ourselves
most people break down crying when you
start saying that for yourself because
to own yes I love myself I love you you
know I'm sorry like there are two parts
of our us you know there's that brain
that's always working that inner critic
as you mentioned but there's our soul
that's always complete love that's God
that's that I am presence and when we
connect with that we can feel that
deserving this we can feel we're worthy
of that life and so saying that prayer
it's the simplest thing the whole pone
opponent complicated to say but those
four sentences I love you I'm sorry
please forgive me thank you if you just
close your eyes and say those feel those
pretty deeply and it is pretty powerful
sure that's crazy you say that like
again going back to the modalities in I
mean I know my you know my frame of
reference my introduction into this was
through Christ in the cross and what
which is about forgiveness which is
about grace in the in the weird thing is
just like everything that you just
mentioned with this upon open Oh like
when I came into it I said those I said
those it wasn't upon upon oh it was in a
prayer meeting hey do you want God to
forgive you yes okay repeat after me it
was like I'm sorry
I forgive you I'm asking for it and
again when we speak it when we ask for
it what does the Bible say like ask and
you shall receive
I ask for forgiveness gonna say no can
you forgive to much it doesn't work that
way
he passes your sin as far as the east to
the west and remember just sin no more
so I was at this prayer meeting and I
said that and I'm
meant it with all my heart forgive me
thank you you know and it was ministered
back to me the same healing and
forgiveness that I was asking for it
went down to the inner chambers of my
heart and and healing and forgiveness
and went throughout my body and it felt
like a fire it was the Holy Spirit and
it burnt out all of that stuff that was
in me that I was carrying the baggage
and stuff it burnt it up and it was a
euphoric beauty I'll begin to weep and
cry like you said I cried and I was just
shaking and it was the most beautiful
euphoric experience it was better than
any drug um still is and I get to tap
into it whenever I want it's free I say
it doesn't cost nothing
it costs a life laid down I have to lay
down to the process I have to be
obedient if there's something in my
heart that it beckons me to lay down or
to pursue or to do and I say nah now
we're not doing that then there's this
thing that kind of goes on of like okay
i'ma hold back from you holding back
from me i'ma hold back from you it's a
relationship and but as I said those
same things and those people in a a I'm
getting comments here about the a a
thing the churches are doing a a because
they're seeing that it works and they're
going through very similar processes
they have 12 steps in those steps that
you mentioned are part of the steps
forgiveness forgiving yourself and then
going out and asking for forgiveness not
just like mentally I hope they forgive
me like let me go let's reconcile the
past
let me let them know hey I'm working on
myself I need I'm sorry I'm consciously
aware that I that I did wrong you know
in asking for that stuff and in its its
given to you so there's something very
powerful about those words no matter how
it's done and God responds to it you
know the universe responds to healing
response to it love responds to it which
gotta Bob says God is love so the words
are interchangeable in my book got a
couple more things I want to get into
record you got a few more minutes yeah
okay Coco so one of the questions here
in the chat from Christine Kristi
Johnson she wants to know have you and
and this is a big one but have you ever
had any experiences or do you work with
angels or demons have you had any
demonic encounters or people manifesting
or anything like that come up during
your sessions or anything yeah well what
the Akashic work that I do yes one of
the most significant ones was a property
clearing that I did and it was actually
a friend of the family
you know said her her boyfriend her work
you know at first she was kind of saying
okay maybe he's got an active
imagination but then after an experience
they had actually had a German Shepherd
that she saw being held down by
something invisible and like struggling
to get up and then getting up and they
had all the they they felt like a lot of
energy in their house and things were
just not right when I talked to him he
said that consciously he said he's like
well I figured that ghosts kind of you
know spirits needed a place to rest so I
kind of invited in any spirits that
needed a place to rest to just come hang
out no that's really not a good thing to
be doing you know so when I did go to do
the Akasha clearing there are a lot of
negative energies around and it was
really hard to do those that clearing
because I felt a lot of resistance I
felt their resistance to leaving and
sometimes in the clearings that I do
especially the property clearings
because there's more than one in that
case there can be if a property is on
sacred say Native American land or
something like that there are yeah there
are beings that are not happy you know
and they don't want to go anywhere so
you know to be surrounding them in love
and to be asking for I always ask for
them to be shown the correct astral
plane at their own at their own you know
willingness but to be surrounded by
light in the meantime so that they are
not affecting the people there and you
know to go when they're ready but to
know that there is another realm for
them to be to be happier to be you know
to carry on because they're not growing
by you know being in that environment
either so
had a decent number of experiences with
entities I don't really know you know
angels demons not really sure there's
definitely icy dark and light food or
yeah I've had more see here's dark or
light to you just maybe by their
appearance but like man you talk about
power and what they have to offer I mean
you got to go to the broken places first
like the darkness like I deal with
angelic and all that kind of stuff but
the demonic it was like were the was
where the gold was like that boss I got
he imparted something to me like to go
you know just because we call it demonic
just because we it looks and vulgar or
NASA it looks dark we all have the dark
so you know even if you suppress it or
if you act like it's not there it's
still there those fears escapism all of
that stuff resides within you and you
got to go there but I'm telling you like
I mean just like you know cuz you've
dealt with it like the dark places man
is where the gold is like that's where
the gold is that like and just because
we call it demonic doesn't mean or
because it looks dark doesn't mean it's
demonic or doesn't mean it's bad let's
say that let's see maybe it's maybe it's
destructive but it's an angel
nonetheless even if it's a dark angel or
what the Bible would call an evil angel
but date but they angel as a messenger
and I think that you know some of the
bad things that are I say bad don't get
rid of that word uncommon things the
uncomfortable things have the most to
teach us because they AB straight you
the biggest thing in church we were
heard coming up get out of your comfort
zone get out of your comfort zone listen
the demons are gonna pull you out of
your comfort zone to love you stagnant
you've been you're getting arrogant and
you're getting comfortable with being
arrogant you're getting comfortable with
doing bad business with people I got
something for you evil and you'll come
you read my book
like it's sin but he's he's got him he's
got a he's got a message
yeah the message change repent you need
to repent there's so much for you man
it's so it's so when you get this man
it's not taught in churches like we're
told like there's a duality of good and
evil and you have to fight the evil
right and it's the devil and God's gonna
defeat him and you know and in this
there's some truth to that right because
there are embodied as fear and in the
darkness or whatever but they have
things to teach you and God is the
orchestrator of it all the author and
finisher of your faith mm-hmm I truly
believe that before the the hardest
lessons those that test us the most are
the ones we gain most from it's taboo
though because like even with me talking
about it it's still like even I feel the
taboos like don't talk about it you're
gonna welcome like in the back of your
head like oh yeah I'm ready to do the
inner work but no it's true it's true
and it comes in many different forms and
we all have to face the dark night of
the soul
on some level sometimes many times over
it's just part of it and because once
you think you know and once you think
you're an expert you find out how much
you don't know and as humility that
comes in that I'm sure there were areas
in your life where you thought you you
had it all figured out and you were
ready to help people but it surrendering
to the process and their energy is like
okay not knowing it's my freakin weapon
I do it you know but I'm open I know
some things but just being open to have
my mind blown daily it's well yeah the
more I learned the more I realized I
don't know and when I decided you know I
was gonna be a healer I was like oh
great I found my niche I'm like no way
there's like this is just the doorway
opening you know and every day it opens
more and I love it you know I never know
what to expect I'm you know shamans say
you know I'm the hollow bone you know I
just I want to be that hollow bone and
just be there to receive for myself and
for anyone that I'm is guided to work
with me you know or in my life in
general
yeah and that's that's the good thing in
you you attract those people because
they're led to you for a reason like I'm
sure you feel this way like everybody
that you've ever had a session with they
were just like they were meant to do it
yeah like it was perfectly aligned you
didn't trick nobody to get a session
from you you know what I'm saying like
it was like hey I'm surrendered to the
to the process in like if you want to if
you want what I got you could come get
it you know come of your own free will
type deal but you surrender to the
universe that hey everything's gonna
work out I don't have to trick you I
don't have to win oh nothing to happen
but like being in that process and being
unconscious and in the moment it but it
wills everything to you whatever is
supposed to be whether it's a client
whether it's a nomad any of it it comes
it's so weird
we're so powerful yeah we're so powerful
I saw I tell people like is this a
dichotomy there for me you say we're
powerful we are so powerful but we have
to be careful you know what your power
comes great responsibility
oh we're broken at the same time like
there's that you know one thing one
tweet away from ending your career like
so we have to kind of like yeah we're so
powerful yet we have to remain humble
you know yeah we're really is in our
weakness like the scripture says - I
love that I love like the healers that I
trust are the ones that are humble you
know I mean I just had a you know a
healing session today where I love
drawing my clients drawing our Oracle
cards I've probably done it thousands of
times and each one someone when it comes
up and that person's like wow that's
exactly right I'm like wow that's so
cool mind blown again you know thousand
times later like just having again that
childlike like wow that's so awesome
and I know it's not me you know it's
coming through me it's using my gifts
and my abilities but it's not me you
know and those moments where I write a
poem in five minutes there you are I'm
sure you write songs like that it's not
me you know it just feels so beautiful
though you know and that connectivity
to everyone and everything is really
what I mean it's going to
Plus forward especially now you know
when there's so much division us
realizing how much we're connected and
how we're all these divine creatures and
you know being responsible with that
power it's so good let's see uh what
about cuz you in so we're getting some
questions here about this and I have
written it down one to go back to it
because before we went live you were
saying I had some some questions and
some experiences with the UFO stuff so
there's some questions here in chat and
want me to ask you about UFOs and you
mentioned reading that part in the book
what were what was you what did you get
whether it's from the book but I really
want to know about your experiences have
you had the book was really cool for me
because to see the pictures with the
UFOs in the background you know really
resonated with me the experiences I've
had I've had one in one in person well
one in person individually where I saw
something that could not be explained
moving in weird things and then just
disappearing but then I went to actually
like a UFO calling in circle you know
where they all call them in and yeah we
yeah we had experiences where you can't
explain what that was you know and it's
just always interested me but your book
took it a step deeper correlating it
with the Bible correlating it with you
know those pictures it just kind of all
makes sense and the akashic work that I
do
we're star travelers Souls we've in
other places we've been car nated all
over the place so just knowing that -
and again I feel like it's just the
puzzle pieces fitting together you know
and it gets me so excited to hear more
about you know get another piece of that
puzzle and I felt like your book
definitely gave that to me and just
raise more questions for me to be like
more and more you know I want to
understand deeper and I want more to be
revealed you know it made it real for me
you know of like again we talked about
this on the last podcast but like like
heaven is not far away like you know
what I'm saying like it made it real for
some I've talked to some friends about
those experiences in the existence of
aliens or we
came or they seated us here some of
these weird you know ancient alien stuff
and for some people it makes them doubt
their faith or doubt the existence of
God because we came from these entities
or something and that's a big belief
system of that and part of part of that
incorporates into what I believe the
Elohim the angelic beings that have
watching over us and had a part in that
but it would cause them to doubt like to
guess the creation story or or religion
or whatever but but for me it made it
real you know it made it real like
heaven wasn't just somewhere that you go
when you're doubt when you die but
heaven is like somewhere that we can
know that we're always connected to but
it's like a literal place like beyond
the stars you know what I'm saying and
that like beings travel back and forth
from these higher dimensions and through
stargates to get back and forth to
heaven and they'll go into a star and go
in heaven and they travel back and forth
and it's like wow to be able to see this
and to read about it in all the ancient
texts very similar experiences and then
to encounter that for yourself any
miracle any other thing otherworldly it
does something for your faith you know I
think so it believed more yeah I mean it
raises more questions but that's more
exciting to me you know I mean I just
want to learn more and more and put
those pieces together and have my mind
blown all the time you know I mean
that's that's beautiful that's like the
mysteries of the universe but we have
had so many shared experiences and I
think it's getting easier you know
because of your book because of people
that have been brave enough to step
forward and you know I have gone to that
UFO calling in group they need every
month you know that there are groups
like this that do these online or in
person it's in person yeah yes different
in person and in person is awesome I'm
in Alabama so there's not too many in
persons but we've we've done it online
too like two years ago and it was really
successful like a lot of people showed
up like wrote the ce-5 initiative and
this is what we're gonna do this is what
we're going to expect and we're gonna
report here I'm gonna do a meditation
I'm gonna be under the stars and
everybody go out make sure you can see
the stars and
we had her it was amazing like they got
got got so much feedback and people
having experiences for the first time
and it was funny my friend Kristi
Johnson who was in the chat she would
hum I like she was getting ready for the
the ce-5 and in there like the kids
television show was on TV you know y'all
ready like heightened senses cuz you're
excited in the TV show was about aliens
like you know all these synchronicities
and stuff and it's so beautiful once you
get into that that energy and you get
into the flow where everything starts
working out that way it's so awesome
well I have to revisit that there's
something to do on the new moon I just
love going out on the new moon you can
see more stars you know absolutely yeah
and I loved hearing about the Prophet to
us like I need to go YouTube him I don't
know I didn't do it to do that prophet
Yahweh you fo see that footage and that
I'm telling it didn't it lit something
in me something moved but it was awesome
so yeah it's it's tangible that you can
try on and play with and with the energy
and all of it I think I think our faith
should be right shouldn't be just some
theory I don't care about your theories
you know I want something tangible
that's gonna help me it's gonna help my
families can help the people around me
it's gonna help them have a better
experience you know make their life more
comfortable here on earth and enjoy the
process that's what I want to know about
forget the theories and people trying to
disprove what you believe and you know
that's not the truth and all this debate
endless debates the scripture says to
stay away from that stuff but think
about these things the things that are
gonna bless people and help them and so
because I've been on both sides so I
know what the the debate life is about
and improving and that kind of thing but
everything I think has its place you
know there's a time where we want to
have proof and all that kind of stuff
let's see so man I had something else I
want to ask you but I forgot about it I
don't know you have anything to respond
maybe to come back to me no I just I I
am in total agreement I mean we need to
just no open our minds you know share
with other people too I mean whatever
you might be a free
shirring just open up to someone there's
got to be someone there's got to be
podcast like you yours you know there's
got to be spaces where you can open up
that conversation because the more we
are open to it more experiences we're
gonna have and more like-minded people
we're attracting to us and it just
ignites that and I love synchronous news
I love that feeling of that flow State
you know those nods from the universe
you're like yeah I mean it is amazing
how fast things can happen still don't
understand them but I love them too okay
I know what I wanted to ask you about
good I wrote it down but it was at the
bottom of my seat here did you have you
looked into do you help people not cuz
I've never I mean I've heard this it's
definitely a thing but I haven't done
any really research on it and I'm asking
this because of a dream that I had just
the other day but helping people cross
over to the other side helping trap
souls that are stuck here spirits that
are stuck ancestors cross over in the
Christian realm it's not really a big
thing although there is some mention in
the books that were taken out of the
Bible in the Apocrypha where like and
it's a Catholic thing to to where like
there was like a seven day journey that
the soul takes to get to the other side
and the families would gather together
and pray for their journey that they
would be able to make it to the light
and make it through the Well of Souls
and through the temptations and head and
some believe that you even have the
chance to accept Christ on the other
side there's some weird stuff that comes
into that with it but do you believe in
that at all that's something like people
are stuck I mean hope we think that like
when you die you're immediately you
can't get lost I mean that would how
scary does that sound to die be lost
almost like the movie The Sixth Sense
you didn't even know you were dead like
I think that there are there instances
like an Akashic work I do what I will
find is souls that left quickly sudden
accident some drug addicts that are very
grounded here and that addiction
how will we have trouble finding their
way they will stay Sasa or someone yep
sudden accident very concerned about
their family they will stay so I have
helped Souls like that I guess but most
like real experience because I do this
Akashic work so distance I'm kind of I'm
connected but I'm not connected the most
real experience I had was it was a
Halloween I was alone in my house so
Halloween you know girls then and I'm
looking at my door and there's knock
trick or treaters all day long knock you
know knock on my door open the door
there's no one there no one on the
street it was kind of like tail-end
close the door and I feel weird I feel
something you know with me and I'm kind
of like it's Halloween I'm a little
freaked out you know I'm like okay what
what is that you know I go upstairs a
plain piece of paper shoots out of my
printer and I'm like okay you know
someone's here you know like and just
kind of went into meditation and asked
and it was a woman that just came to me
and said that she was killed
suddenly and she was kind of asking for
my help to cross and basically I went
into an Akashic prayer and just asked
that she be helped you know someone come
take her to the correct path patrol
plane surround her with love and show
her the way you know so that was I guess
my most visceral experience with it but
in the Akashic work that I do it is it
is something that I find you know
reasonably often I mean not every
reading by far but there are souls that
are you know yeah a little stuck and
some aren't ready to go they're not
they're so tied to this earth plane that
it's it's just they're not again they're
not ready you know where they feel not
ready maybe they had maybe they like
maybe time let them become ready like if
they did a certain amount of time and
okay I'm done with this I'm ready to go
I've been stuck here repeating this I've
learned it what I need I need someone to
help can't reach out to that person
can't reach out to that yeah but you
you're ready to help me cross was that
something that could you think could
happen if they attacked you so I'm
really weird on contacting the dead
right as far as like
we're gonna talk to Hitler we're gonna
talk to my grass I'm even like rock
question a lot of that but um but what
wouldn't it what about when the dead
contacts you now that's a whole
different story when they're contacting
you and I say this and I don't want to
get too emotional but my my uncle died
of drug overdose and addicted a lot of
drugs and things and he's been dead now
or he's passed on 15 years ago
and I had this crazy vivid vivid vivid
dream just the other night that we were
staying I was kind of I felt like I was
younger and old at the same time so I
don't really know but I guess maybe me
being younger just kind of put me in the
realm that when he was alive and when he
was my uncle you know the the uncle or
whatever I saw my sister my brother was
living in his house and then he comes
home from jail he did 15 years in jail
he's ended we knew that when he got
there hey you been locked up 15 years
and he's like y'all out of my house
you guys are living in my house it's out
only person who can stay is Derek and uh
so but he was like drinking and vomiting
everywhere and he was still sick he was
drinking like alcohol and just it was it
was a scary dream and it was and he was
it was almost like it was very scary
actually he was still I think he was
like trying to kill me at times in the
dream but it was so surreal that I'm
talking about it now on the pot and I've
never had a dream like that and I linked
the in the dream it was he come back
from 15 years of prison 15 years of
purgatory 15 years of waiting yeah he's
been dead for 15 years like this year so
like I'm wondering it's making me open
up like is there a prayer is it
something I should look into and I know
this is a big thing there's a lot of
people who this is what they do but from
my my worldview it's not something that
I've done before or engaged with or even
what can I do the weird thing you
mentioned a while ago is the Halloween
Halloween is All Saints Day and it's
the Day of the Dead well we remember our
our ancestors and we remember the Dead
and so that happened for you so I don't
know what to do if I should engage it
and in like whether it's a prayer of
releasing him asking God to release them
to the other side or what you're so
connected Derek I think if you go into a
meditation and ask what to do please
give me a prayer that I can so I can
help him pass I think that'll come right
to you I really do I feel like you are
connected I feel like you had that dream
for a reason you know and I feel like
you were the perfect person to do that
for him and to grant him that peace no
and I do feel like it that purgatory was
the prison you know and a lot of times
there's a lot of guilt with drug
addiction they see what they've done you
know how they've affected things and so
they almost stay as they're punishing
themselves so that freedom that love
that hope on Epona is a beautiful prayer
to say for him too and just that letting
go and letting him know he deserves to
be at a place of peace yeah
Wow it's pretty emotional dreams are the
the biggest place man where the spirit
connects with you and the Bible is full
of scriptures about encountering God and
download getting downloads in the night
because you can't run from that again
you say we're so busy during the day we
got so much to do we got to be Prasanna
we got to be I got to be a dad I got to
be a husband I got to be a friend I got
to be a healer I got to be an
entertainer I got to be a rapper you
know but when I lay my head on the
pillow it's like okay I got you now you
know so none of us inside just me all of
us when we land heads on the pillow in
the place where God speaks to our spirit
and imparts things and shows us things
and so I definitely believe in the dream
state and in God speaking to us they're
going back to
healing and you said something can
happen quickly right and and there's
things that you can do to play in the
energy and stuff like that is there is
there a prayer or something that we can
do for the listeners while you know who
may be skeptics who've never felt the
energy if you will or maybe they're
going through a rough time right now
there's people who are battling in their
body there's people who are dealing with
addiction is there any anything that
like that we can do now yeah can I lead
a little exercise for sure um let's see
here I wanna I'm gonna play so I have
some um some prayer music that I like to
play too I've found in the tones to it
was for sure so I'm gonna ask you I
usually begin like this to rub your
hands together because I want you to be
in that energy to start feeling your
energy you can close your eyes get in a
comfortable spot Ness you're rubbing
your hands together just be here right
now just feel the seat or the bed
beneath you listen to the beautiful
music just tell your mind then it's over
okay to relax it's okay to let go
whatever you brought into this moment
like I saw to take a deep breath in
together and hold it and breathe out
breathing out any stress still remains
another breath in I'm holding it and
breathing out
one more breath in holding it and
breathing out now I'd like you to put
your hands a couple inches apart and
just kind of feel as you move them in
and out feel if you feel tingles or wool
or just kind of bring a smile to your
face looking wow that's pretty cool
right in that childlike energy of how
beautiful those tingles feel are the
warm and if you don't feel it you can
always rub your hands together again
there's no judgement now I'd like you to
place your hands on your heart and I'm
gonna ask you to imagine that energy
going down your hands
to your wrists softly bathing and
warming your body to your elbows making
its way up to your shoulder says it's in
your shoulders you can feel it really
relaxed and your shoulders away from
your neck it goes to your throat
to your head front and back it stops at
your crown and that's near crown we're
just gonna have this intention that
where we feel connected to everything we
know we are the divine and we know we
are worthy let me feel that energy
connected to the heavens to the planets
to the moon to the Stars to the Sun I'm
gonna feel that energy come down through
our head throw a neck where our heart
for our lower mid back and stomach for
our lower back
groin hips and it starts to make its way
down your legs swarming your legs as it
goes down to your knees all the way down
to your ankles and feet and that's
because your feet as it's at your feet
just think about this connection to this
planet that we have to mother earth to
all the beings on it to nature the tree
the grass the water
your gratitude for being able to walk on
this planet at this time or rate change
you're gonna picture that energy moving
up again moves up your legs to your
stomach it settles in your heart where
your hands are and that's in your heart
I want you to bring to mind someone
we're a moment in your life that really
meant joy to you it could be someone's
past it could be someone that's with you
it could be a pet if you have a pet that
you love it or love imagine how it feels
to be in that presence if there's not a
person that comes to mind you can bring
to mind a memory a space maybe in nature
that brings that joy in just allow
yourself to bring in those scents of the
smells how do they were there any smells
associated with that moment and that
person where that what did that energy
feel like what did it look like
bring that in and just feel that love
know that you are so worthy of that love
express gratitude to this being or to
this place for that love that you felt
no you are so loved and you're so worthy
of feeling this joy in your heart and
knowing that you deserve to be feel this
love at all times it's within you it's
within your heart it's within your soul
you are perfect as is you don't need to
do anything other than just be take a
breath in and hold it
breathe out just hold this intention
that you're gonna hold this love in your
heart you're going to return to this
this place this person this memory give
gratitude for yourself for taking this
time when you're ready you can put down
your hands and open your eyes just a
couple minutes and we can bring in love
yeah man
it's so good I mean starting a
meditation like that of going in and
having your own encounter with God with
the Holy Spirit like starting with a
short guided meditation it's awesome it
helps you to get relaxed it helps you
add the breath work and focusing on the
breathing there's so many different
levels to adding the music incense if
you have it you know different things
like that that really helped with with
was tapping in for yourself and so I
loved it and I was able to feel it and
it was going through and there's
something about the intention and the
light and wanting to to cleanse out what
it needs to do in it cuz it knows what
it needs to do just as you do that
you're allowing it yeah and if there's
any part of you that feels that extra
tension or you have any injury holding
it there hold that energy there give
that part of you love as so often if
we're ill we're sending negative
messages to that body part that's
hurting but really embrace that love and
send that love and energy to that body
all right
that's that's feeling tension because
that love will make it release and able
to heal
one more question before we go we're
just taking this from the chat
mentioning the Akashic records a lot and
I got a buddy of mine who's really into
the different philosophies of the
Akashic records and we and I'm sure
we're accessing it calling it different
names even from the Bible we've kind of
experienced and talked about like the
book of life like everything is written
in this book of life and it could be the
same type of thing but I guess he's
wanting to know how do you define the
Akashic because there are many different
interpretations I define it as kind of
like you said the book of life the book
of all the information or I mean I guess
as I see it visually almost like this
humongous library of all these books of
information of every experience every
relationship we've had in every
incarnation every piece of property has
a record every every relationship we've
had every interaction we've had there's
a record of every single thing in there
or you can look at it just like almost
like I've seen that picture of like a
grid you know a huge grid of information
that we're able to tap into from my own
practice it's easier for me to visualize
almost like a computer screen and it
detaches me a little bit then holding it
because my teacher was in kind of the
belief that you're not supposed to hold
it it's almost like too much energy so
for me it's almost like a computer
screen that comes up with information
where I can access anyone can access you
know it's just a tuning to that and
having that faith I use you know Akashic
guides you know that can give me that
information but it's that record of all
that is all that ever was and all we
were ever were through all incarnations
this planet other planets wherever you
know and some of the stuff you know I
don't like that word entities but some
of the energies that are around us even
now and contributing to our reality now
that's awesome and I think many people
are accessing that by different names I
mean that for me it would be like the
heart of God the mine yeah I love that
all you know so the source field that's
I mean there's just so many different
names so it's like the all-knowing it's
everywhere you know what I'm saying and
it knows everything you know so many
people are experiencing that and and
have different names for it
you know and I find it beautiful and I
think there's a beauty and all the
different names and all the different
beliefs and understanding just do it
call it prana you call the holy spirit I
like all of it and I'm cool with it it
doesn't I'm not married to any of them
it's whatever resonates with you
whatever you're comfortable with I mean
some people that word God brings all
these negative connotations you know so
to say right if that word doesn't work
for you find one that does and I know
when I started this work I went to a
Catholic school yeah like so I had Jesus
and the Bible dug into me in a very
different way you know and I was
resistant honestly to learn about Jesus
and then when I did I was like he's like
my master healer he was saying all these
beautiful things it's just the way it
was interpreted was very narrowly minded
how they wanted you to see it you know
so yeah just opening yourself up but
whatever words you're comfortable with I
say go with those because you know you
don't really want to force yourself to a
word that's bringing up resistance
because that's just another thing to
work through yeah so you know what me
and my wife were just talking about this
like cuz she's working on her first
meditation and she submitted it to I
guess someone who's a who's gonna like
critique it a little bit somebody who's
an expert at writing meditations and and
it was a group and everybody said take
the god stuff out and she mentioned the
voice of God speaking to you and
ministering to you and that's what I do
I do with my meditations like I'm
bringing you I'm tricking you into the
presence of God like you're gonna do
this meditation now we're going up
the father who loves you and he's got
things he wants to tell you and things
like that so so I mean that is I guess
my niche I guess cuz it's the Christian
meditation it's a god thing but one guy
listened to it he loved it
and I think I even used the word Yahweh
Yahweh father God and that like
immediately nope no Yahweh we're not
doing that way God you know sweet cuz
like you said like there's a negative
connotation there and I know you say
like it brings up more work because it
does but I'm the one who like I want it
to trigger you yeah I want you why don't
I like God again going back to my
upbringing Kat you got to reconcile the
Catholic upbringing you you know why you
don't like this well my dad was a
Baptist minister and he wasn't around or
he believed he thinks I'm going to hell
you know what I'm saying okay well
whatever that is and so I mean obviously
we champion the work of working through
whatever triggers you the triggers are
amazing they're here for a reason yeah
because they're open wounds and when you
touch hurt because they're not healed so
I've embraced the god thing and but I'm
open to all the turn to terms I don't
care you know it's a personal thing to
like a personal God that here's the nose
and response and
I've put that in my meditations but they
do it does trigger people I've been on
other people's shows and I've said God
or Jesus and they're like they literally
look like they took a bite of a lemon
when I said that Jesus isn't real like
why did you like what was that like an
immediate response why'd you have to
tell them about my I was on this one and
this one interviewing this one guy years
ago and I was just like talking about
their experiences in the book at the end
of the book this encounter with Jesus
which was pure light white light that
just feel that my body was so beautiful
euphoric and it was Jesus and I told
this guy about the experience and he was
just arguing with me on my podcast that
this wasn't Jesus I was a light being
and it was an alien it wasn't Jesus I'm
talking about I know the energy sir you
know and but it's so weird just about
you know they're different you know
trigger words and things and they tell
you I mean cuz the thing about the
meditation thing the woman told my wife
was that like you you want to create a
safe space for someone if you're
bringing them into the trance State you
don't want to shock them out you don't
want to scare them you don't want to you
know deal with that herb but like I've
had for the most part all good
experiences was was doing that and it's
like even that undid the trauma you know
what I'm saying like hey you can't go
nowhere now you get up and am taking
this off and you get offended but that's
gonna mess with you I'm usually gonna
get mad at me or get mad at who whatever
but I want you to work through that too
you can be okay with all of them like
all the different times and names and
stuff and it's just
you know the triggers are here for a
reason yeah they are so the god thing is
big with me though you know because I
mean it it it blesses me and it hinders
me too you know I got it on my book you
know sovereignty of God like that seems
kind of teaching we're gonna teach you
on the sovereignty of God but for my
what I mean when I say that is something
totally different
you know then so but that hinders me
from doing a lot of podcasts and
interviews and because they see that and
they think that it's a something that's
gonna be anti a cult or or exploration
you know I'm gonna be against what
they're about so which is definitely not
the case but your book incorporated it
all together I mean that's when
sometimes clients will ask me well what
religion are you and I'm like mmm I'm
not a religion I've studied a lot of
religions I am the embodiment of how
they're all connected you know that's
what I believe Russell oneness love you
know the golden rule like all of those
things that's what I want to embody
that's good that's good so good well my
friend thank you for coming on hanging
out with me you've got a bunch of
material you've got a bunch of books
you've got a healing modalities private
sessions that you do where's the best
place for people to go to check out your
work and book a session with you or
anything like that sure Jenny Mannion
calm jnn why MA and niño and calm and
yeah I have an online course of books of
definitely private sessions also anyone
that gets my book has a 20-minute
private session with me too free
consultation so I just love interacting
and helping people I also do a free
monthly distance sealing so I just
started that a couple months ago so
anyone that you need you know that needs
healing I welcome them on the list furry
friends included you know and I spent
send an hour spend an hour each month
sending out energy to anyone that that
feels like they need it
awesome well I enjoyed this interview of
so much I think we're kindred spirits
and it was so so nice I feel so blessed
that we connected oh thanks so much and
let me know when you want to do it again
man well we'll open it up and it's so
cool that uh again plug in John
Santiago's episode
I remember you looked familiar I just
couldn't place it until he posted it in
chat oh that's so good
hi my friend you'd be blessed thank you
so much for have a wonderful retreat hi
my friend thank you thank you bye Wow
good stuff enjoy it
good stuff shout out to everybody
hanging out with us in the chat and I
was kind of deep man
hit me home right there at the end
talking about my uncle and just that
that dream surreal it's something about
the dreams that you can't forget you
know I because so many times we wake up
and we forget our dreams I mean that's
why you're encouraged to write them down
have a dream journal but some of them
you can't forget if you tried you know
and they stick out for a reason so I'm
gonna do that I'm gonna try it it's out
of my worldview I don't like it's not a
thing for me again there's some things
that were taken out of the Bible that
talk about this travel just you know
what we know the Catholic tradition is
big into purgatory in a holding place
and waiting you know so don't judge me
it's about healing never experienced
anything like that it was so surreal
there was too many synchronicities in
that dream so I'm gonna try it and it
was interesting to Tessa mentioned a
book CS Lewis the Great Divorce and says
that she thinks that they can get lost
and I know those are go to books there's
a couple of them the Screwtape
Chronicles I forgot who that was by but
some of those books that are like go-to
books on allegory and spirituality and
Christianity and I definitely need to
read that I haven't read it yet but I
need to I have to check that one out
Chris garner said he'd do his usual link
posting but he's away from the computer
I got you sir I'll post it in the chat
here
he always catches up on the links for
everybody just the one click away so
Chris Garner also says source field was
my favorite favorite before that one guy
went off the rails
Koff David will come man South everybody
hanging out with us so many of you guys
on many different platforms right now
I'm reading all the comments and it's
good stuff yeah we have our retreat this
weekend super excited super excited to
see members of the community in the
flesh some for the first time gonna see
John Santiago's coming down we've
already built before we're gonna do a
podcast after the event - I think the
first week in February I think is we
have him scheduled on a Wednesday night
so we'll be able to talk about some of
that uh with our experiences and it's a
bunch of people man Nehemiah's come in
bars just come in Chris bars and Andrew
all my friends coming to see me it's
gonna be good I'm excited I got another
one coming up if you want to book for it
a couple couple beds left in April go to
true seeker calm there's ways for you to
get tickets there and I'll come to the
event that we're doing it's gonna be
good and get you a bed retreat snack all
that good stuff yeah covered a lot Tracy
and arrows became a patron she's awesome
I love what she's doing she and her she
sent me a worship song that she was
working on beautiful awesome annoying it
it wasn't just what it wasn't just good
it was anointed it was good you can feel
the presence of God she's a singer
there's some people we do energy work
release relax can you feel it let me put
my hand here we can we can extend the
energy some people when they're in their
element you feel it where they're
performing or they're acting when I'm
rapping like people feel that the one of
the greatest compliments I've ever
gotten before was the fact that people
experience the presence of God when I'm
rapping hey hands down that was that was
a day one thing pain there's never gonna
be a greater
you know compliment oh you're my
favorite rapping is the best rapper
you're some people you know try to it's
real to them you're you and two pockets
all I listen to man you're better than
this Annette
awesome but the fact that you encounter
the presence of God and it was funny too
because I thought that that was gonna be
something that left when I wasn't doing
quote-on-quote Christian music anymore
you know my music wasn't Christian even
though like a lot of the same contents
in there feeling the power of God
through prayer through meditation
through fasting but I'm really
describing it in intricate ways and
using a lot more vocabulary so it's very
much some people still think it is
Kristen rats kind of funny because I'm a
Christian and I'm a rapper so I thought
that was gonna be something that left
but then there was comments that came
after they're like telling me they feel
the presence of God and other people who
have no idea that even that term
presence of God is not in their
vocabulary so they say man I get chills
when you're rapping something's
happening like I feel I want to cry like
there's no greater compliment like
you're in the divine perfect will you're
tapping in when I rap Theresa and arrows
when she was singing she was singing a
worship song and
it was it was so beautiful and I felt
that when she was doing it again some
people when they're acting some people
when they're when they're when they're
in their element they get into the the
flow state to get into their zone when
they're in their element whatever that
element is I mean some people painting
it's just like you're drawn in there's a
magic there when they're there doing
what there was that what they were
sitting here to do and that's the thing
of finding what that is where is the
magic go to it do whatever you fight for
it
do the inner work whatever you got to do
to make it happen do it it's worth it
it's worth it whatever whatever you're
thinking about while you're you're in
that other place I mean that's something
like I know I'm here but I'm thinking
about doing this I want to do that so
again for me my mom never on the job
never owned a job I mean I did it my
body was there my mom was never there
I'm always and I would the majority of
my music I wrote on other jobs like I'd
have to like you know working for the
city and I was working with inmates and
cleaning up the city and cleaning up
trash and picking up limbs and chipper
and it was just exhausting hard work but
it was like that Drive so when I got in
the truck to pull the truck up to the
next pile of trash or whatever
I got lyrics coming to me I'm writing
them down they like hey get out of here
what you doing I can't tell em I'm write
lyrics man like I'm just trying to hurry
up and get it out of me a little piece
of paper whatever it is write it on your
hand like recorded in my phone of me
wrapping it so I can get home and and
work and grind my mind was never there
my body was there my mom was never there
it was there just enough to be like
cognitive and like not kill somebody and
I get hurt doing what I was doing but my
mom was never there so no disrespect to
those of you who are like that's what
y'all do and I'm glad like whatever it
is we have you know it's some things for
everybody
you know different strokes for different
folks and uh different things that move
you you know and um working for the city
definitely wasn't one of them driving
the truck 14 hours 12 hours a day it
wasn't one of them
I did it y'all listen to this I want to
bless out with this this is my friend
Teresa
worthy of every song we could ever see
were the only place in every
worthy of every breath we breathe we
live for you Oh
Jesus sending the other way
Jesus the only one safe
warning of every breath we breathe we
live
Oh
and holy there is none like You there is
not a smile
[Applause]
ever seen
worthy
warning of everything we live for you
Oh
jeez
Jesus another
Jesus the only one
of every breath we live for you
Oh
[Applause]
Oh
you
not me
let me shake
put my trust
Wow you didn't feel that Union living
it's amazing I love it
want to hear more of that good stuff
shout out to you Theresa keep it up keep
up the good work
the anointing breaks every yoke whatever
you're dealing with man as a peace that
surpasses all understanding it's
available to you if you want it tap into
it ask for it God will give it to you he
gives it freely I bless you with that if
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presence of God and just seeing what the
father's doing and what he's speaking to
our hearts and uh definitely it's a good
time to come together it's it's our
church we kind of do church we talk we
have dialogue we conversate we talk
about what we're going through and and
then we lift it up to the heavens and
and let the Spirit of God move within
our bodies and heal us and cast our
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