Did Jesus Teach On Demonology? + Open Lines
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gotta have some type of topic going into
this so I was looking around and trying
to see what to talk about and a friend
of mine the other day someone who
listens to the podcasts and someone who
follows the work made this interesting
post on her page and now please don't
get offended but I'd want to answer this
especially because I just wrote a whole
book on the subject but she had this
comment and maybe she was in her
feelings a little bit but she said that
Jesus did not teach on demonology and we
don't need to know anything about
spirits and demons and things like that
that kind of like it's all found just in
Jesus you know you know Christians say
just Jesus we don't need anything else
just Jesus and so man I don't know how
many times I've said that on my
spiritual journey and being a Christian
in and out the church and when things
get a little bit cloudy and foggy it's
like up just Jesus I'm putting all this
esoteric stuff down I'm putting down all
the aliens
Nephilim the Giants mysticism
synchronicity put it all down and I only
need Jesus right so we get into this
weird headspace where it's like put put
everything aside and only follow him
that's good I believe it just Jesus it's
always just Jesus until we start talking
about anything else it's like I'm just
gonna do Jesus I'm gonna go to church
and I'm just okay it's always just Jesus
until tithes and offerings comes up
okay well Jesus in time I was always
just Jesus until this comes up or until
that comes up and then until someone
gives an opinion on the Nephilim or on
the Giants or on the giftings of the
Holy Spirit so it's not okay it's just
Jesus and this and that and you find out
that this whole simplicity of just Jesus
doesn't really work and Jesus is your
foundation that foundation is love right
and anytime we try to build on top of
that anything that can be will be shaken
so we got to make sure that everything
we built we build is built upon the
foundation of that first love which is
Christ crucified for many of you who are
Christians right but other than that
when things get foggy and hazy you just
have to push everything to the side
we don't need demonology we don't need
this we don't need that we don't need
other books or whatever the case is we
just need Jesus and so I kind of think
that that's where she was at I mean
we've all been there we'd go back there
sometimes right but um she was saying
that she was done with all this
demonology and and teachers and people
wanting to to sell you things or sell
you a private session some of it gets
really weird just do a session to remove
alien implants let's do a session to you
know clear up your past lives or
whatever I don't know I do private
sessions and again I just did a whole
book on on the spirit realm and there's
so much in here like every topic that I
cover and then does a lot of crazy
out-of-this-world
spirits ghosts aliens Nephilim UFOs
all kinds of chanting mantras like I'll
address it all and I give a lot of
scriptural backing for a lot of this
stuff and like the more you read the
scriptures the more you find out there's
a lot of interesting stuff that's in the
Bible one of my big influences into
getting into any of this stuff has been
the work of Patrick cook who's no longer
with us he passed away in 2012 but he
had this website and I'm trying to
rebuild the website actually because
there's so much good information but
there's like hundreds of thousands of
pages and it's kind of hard so I want to
bring his work back to the table because
this definitely comes through through my
work and um but I shared a quote in my
book at the very beginning of the book
but it's a quote by Patrick cook who had
Bible UFO calm and this is what he says
he says witches wizards sorcery
evil and unclean spirits devils ghosts
demonic possessions and exorcisms
conjuring up and raising the dead
divination trances astrology Oracle's
enchantments supernatural healing
superhuman strength
Giants dragons and unicorns are but a
few of the many instances of paranormal
phenomena found in the Bible some of the
lesser known anomalies in Scripture are
levitation astral projection
clairvoyance psychokinesis telepathy
metamorphosis glossolalia
behemoths satyrs cockatrices flying
fiery serpents which is a good one that
I love which is the Seraphim and
gigantic and terrifying fire-breathing
smoked snorting stone hearted in
destruction indestructible and fibia sea
monsters this research work is intended
to provide the evidence that not all of
these paranormally paranormal anomalies
are properly understood or completely
misrepresented by the church and
mainstream thought there was long been a
gulf between the church's portrayal of
these seemingly unnatural things and the
beliefs of
many others outside of the sphere of
dogmatic interpretation and I was a
quote by Patrick cook that was on his
website years ago that really just kind
of like wow all of this stuff is in the
scriptures in it for me it makes the
Bible seem a lot more interesting to
Indian there's people who think that all
of this stuff is outside of the realm of
the Bible or maybe the ones who would
say yeah that stuff's in there but the
Bible condemns it and then here's
another look from very much a Patrick
cook perspective and mine is the fact
that know the Bible is so for a lot of
this stuff you know all of these
supernatural encounters and beans and
ghosts and goblins and demons and
fairies and elementals and there's so
much more that wasn't even mentioned in
that glossary of terms and so I want to
dive into that a little bit today did
Jesus teach on demonology because
there's this notion again that it's only
Jesus this some of the stuffs been made
fun of I've been in church services
where it we're talking about deliverance
and uh like kind of things that happen
after the cross like all you need to do
is come to the cross and everything's
good just come to church get plugged in
keep coming you'll be good well there's
like some inner sanctification work that
has to be done you have to like kind of
walk it out you have to pick up your
cross daily and follow him and you have
to die daily like that's something you
you there's something that you must do
it's required of you you don't just get
saved or whatever and then everything's
good so that's the misconception and
that's one of the big turn offs for a
lot of people in Christianity is that
other people see it's like they don't do
the inner work it's really much so about
the same defecation process and really
understanding that and Jesus talked
about all that stuff demons spirits did
Jesus mention it people think that like
Jesus went around and just touched
people or prayed or whatever and they
was gone there are instances where Jesus
commanded the demons to talk like he
communicated with the demons through
people he understood that that person
was a channel and say hey what's what's
your name
and I'm he's not talking to the person
he's talking to the spirit that's within
that person controlling them eating off
of their auric field all of this kind of
stuff right so he's talking to the
spirits within them making them tell him
their name and in hints on their name
kind of reveals their identity right
that's what your name is your your
identity in your character calling them
forth by name and rebuking them to
making them come out of the person there
were other times and in Matthew chapter
12 which is really beautiful like Jesus
gives you this whole lecture on the
chorus the course of of demons unclean
spirits when they leave a body when they
leave a person what happens to them
where do they go I've heard preachers
kept try to cast out demons and say you
go to the pit go to the pit right now
send you out I curse you to the pit
devil and they'll try to but let no
that's they don't go to the pit they
they have what they have legal ground
first of all to be in that that vehicle
that person and then they have legal
ground to do what they're supposed to do
in the ethers for a time so like where
do they go so Jesus told us where they
go when an unclean spirit or what we
would call a demon is cast out of a
person it goes out seeking it goes out
into dry places and it seeks seven other
spirits stronger than itself to come
back to the home to come back to the
vehicle to come back to the host to come
back to the body and when it gets seven
other spirits stronger than itself it
comes back to check and see if it can
get back in and as it says when it comes
back if it finds the house which is you
that the person swept clean and things
are in order there's no more legal
ground there's no more dwelling place
for that entity to live within your
auric field to live within your psyche
as if there's no more room for it to be
there then it goes and it leaves because
it has no legal it has no place to live
and Jesus kind of talks about that so he
gives us the the course of
of these entities and what happens this
is in a whole instance where someone's
mentioning here in the chat saying that
Jesus was a magician that he was
performing magic Christian's hate that
that term you know when I talk about
white magic Jesus was a white magician
he used spirituality he used the
elements he used a lot of different
things to go about doing good and this
is greater things that we can do we copy
and learn what he did and using this
stuff for good it's called white magic
now you see people are scared of that
term you know that's that's probably
because of the movies and in Hollywood
and things like that but really when in
the true essence of the term Jesus was
was a performing white magic really goes
into a lot of detail in that if you want
to learn Manley P Hall has a book called
magic white gray in black and it shows
you the difference between the different
forms of magic of neutral magic of
Elemental magic and really black magic
is is performing hexes and trying to
manipulate people all of its dealing
with manipulation but there's gonna be
the Goodman manipulation to help them
masses to help people to go about doing
good and there's going to be the dark
sorcery to manipulate people to get what
you want out of them to lie to bend the
truth and to really deal with the
elements to twist it to get what you
want and there's a lot of that some of
the greatest black magicians of our time
or in the churches they're Master
deceivers they're master manipulators
and they've built huge platforms because
they understand the psyche they
understand how to get over on people how
to keep people hanging on by the edge of
their seat to continue to shake money
out of you not hey this is a good
ministry we ask you to give but they'll
shake it out of you they'll manipulate
money out of you some of the greatest
and then spirituality gets into play
your eternal salvation Lord I'm gonna
stop that's not where I was going but
some of the greatest magicians black
magicians are in your church and they
wear the title of
preacher deacon bishop all of these guys
I'm telling you if we were looking at
the true essence of what magic and
sorcery is it's manipulation it's
manipulations what it is getting back to
the point Jesus speaking on demonology
Jesus was accused of being you could say
a witch he was accused of being a
sorcerer even right
so when because he was casting demons
out of people and they were like hey the
only way you can cast demons out of
people as if you're in bed with the
demons and they only listen to you and
this is some weird accusations that was
made towards him and there's a lot of
I've heard like Christians make weird of
sumption like that - it's kind of weird
like far out people but he said no he
said listen you all know Solomon there
is one who was greater than Solomon
standing before you right now and you
don't even know it how can Satan cast
out Satan a kingdom divided against
itself shall not stand so he's like well
how am I going out going about doing
good works healing people you
encouraging people to do good
encouraging people to to be free right
that that's that's counterproductive for
Satan or a demonic system it would be it
doesn't function a business a kingdom
does not function like that Satan cannot
cast out Satan but he gives mention to
Solomon as being one of the greatest
magicians one of the greatest sorcerers
to being one of the greatest in
demonology if you go back and read the
testament of Solomon you understand what
most of us know in the church because
it's been preached in sermons or seen in
movies and it's definitely throughout
video games in lore his his name the
Seal of Solomon the ring of Solomon that
has power
it's a magical sigil if you will just a
five-pointed star many people think it's
the six pointed star the hexagram but
it's really it's a pentagram that
Solomon was given and that goes into
detailing the testament of Solomon but
Jesus kind of gives
some credence - hey when it's when we're
talking about casting out of demons
having authority and power over these
demons he says look you got one greater
than Solomon standing with you y'all
believes Solomon why not me right so
essentially what he's saying so he gives
some credence there
- this whole Solomonic magic or a lot of
people say you know salt Solomon when he
kind of made these covenants with other
other gods that that's when you know he
went on the wrong path but he was doing
a lot of that stuff before he made
sacrifices unto Moloch and then
Testament Solomon goes into there now
there's keys to Solomon there's a wisdom
of Solomon is a bunch of other stuff as
well most of this stuff was even in the
Bible in the 1600s it's in the 1611 King
James the the wisdom of Solomon there's
a lot more books that that were in your
original Bible and going back to the
demonology like the King James Bible
King James who had the Bible of what we
know today put together he had another
book that was very popular and it was a
book about demonology I've not read it
I've tried the Rick to read it some of
the Old English it's really hard to read
but King James was is noted for having a
book that you can get now you can define
manuscripts online and get the book off
of Amazon type in King James demonology
he's got a book on demonology so all of
that stuff and then Jesus again not only
tells us how these demons operate we see
like in the Gospels like I would say 90%
of his ministry was going about casting
out demons and he would converse with
them he would have authority he would
teach the disciples all of this kind of
stuff and then we also see Jesus call
out the Prince of demons by name the
Prince of demon Jesus called him by name
so there's this thing where people say
you don't need to learn the name of
demons you don't need to know this and
all that all you need is Jesus Jesus
gave us examples like he gave you the
example to follow
he understood how these spirits operated
and then he calls them out by name which
one he calls out Beelzebub the Prince of
demons
Beelzebub by name that name is only
mentioned one time in the Bible and it's
when Jesus says it to find out who he's
talking about like if you don't know
like most Christians most church
doctrine believe that that's Satan they
beat Beelzebub is another name for Satan
because there's the Prince of demons no
that's a whole nother entity in in
general if you want to learn more about
it go again into the testament of
Solomon which goes into a lot more
detail on these demons and their names
and their rankings and the Angels that
bind them and the planets that they're
bound to like there are certain portals
that are opened up when the stars align
in certain ways and the planets align it
opens up for seasons and signs and
angels who get access to you on the
earth and they bring in the seasons a
lot of them like they're not all wicked
like all these spirits they have an
operation they have things that they
were created to do they were created
beings some of them left their first
habitation those are the wicked spirits
who were expelled who since they left
heaven they couldn't go back I go into
detail about that in the book that's
mentioned up in Genesis 6 and all
throughout the scriptures and the angels
lusting over women and the beauty and
power of the hair that entices these
angels I don't know why something
something magical about a woman's hair
that they're attracted to are going to
detail and all of that stuff so to say
that we don't need demonology and Jesus
didn't teach him
they taught so much more they taught
demonology clairvoyance divination all
of these things which are within the
Bible like you don't even have to go to
some of these outside books but these
books were once accepted by the early
church and that's what I want I want to
go back to and I say hold why did y'all
take this out well there were some
things that we didn't believe anymore
and no no I want to know what they knew
let me because which I'll have now is a
is
a cheap imitation right if we're going
back to the essence of the ancient path
and understanding the spiritual walk in
the spiritual spiritual path that they
walked you you guys are no this isn't it
we hear about Christianity and we look
at religion of today it's it does not
resemble it at all so my heart is to go
back to some of these early books that
they had and there's so much more
there's so much more Jesus again he had
so much more that he wanted to share but
they they just wasn't ready
they just wasn't ready and his disciples
he that there was some that he were he
would share you know 30 percent of his
heart with some 60 some 90 some 100 fold
and it's those who wanted the
information they wanted the esoteric
wisdom it's not a bad word esoteric end
of coat those aren't bad words the word
esoteric just means truth for a few it's
not for you you're not gonna get it it
is esoteric to you but there's other
people who ask for it and they
understand the word a call simply means
hidden it's a Latin word meaning hidden
hidden knowledge yes Jesus taught occult
wisdom Jesus taught secret knowledge who
is it secret for because Jesus also goes
on and said look I've hidden nothing
from you I've shown you everything
openly
but it was for you to pursue it to them
who asked to them who knock to them who
seek to them who go into their prayer
chambers closed the door it will be
given unto you he will download the
information to you supernaturally you'll
get it through wisdom from others from
from peers from people who have been up
those mountains and come down just like
Moses went up to the mountain and seeing
God face to face and came down and his
aura was glowing he came down he had a
message right it's still today if you go
away Jeremiah 33:3 callin to me I will
answer you and show you great and mighty
things which you do not know and cannot
find out it's truth for a few for the
few who seek it that's the only
the only prerequisite for this
information it's not privy for the
leaders or a bloodline or anything it's
for those who secret and you have to
seek it you have to be diligent you have
to be faithful with the information you
have to do the inner work and all of us
are on this path as a spiritual school a
spiritual Mystery School as great gregg
braden says that we're all within
spiritually in their sanctification
process there's test there's trials
there's testings there's pop quizzes you
have to retake a test that you pass six
years ago and you have to take that test
again in the spirit coming back up those
things yep it's all there so to say that
Jesus did not teach demonology man in
this big because I remember for me we
used to go to Teen Challenge and they
used to want us to come there and rap
and kind of shower testimonies and stuff
and Teen Challenge just was we're like
it's still today but a lot of people
dealing with drugs a lot of drug addicts
people who are addicted to all types of
drugs heroin methamphetamine crack
cocaine alcoholics like all of these
people were in this like Christian Rehab
trying to get back on their feet some of
them are like court-appointed to be like
an outpatient program to go to but a lot
of them were worth trying to overcome
and we would go then we would wrap in
would share our stories and then I would
not talk about demons man like that's us
this is my thing man I came out of it I
know a lot of stuff about it it's my
heartbeat I could talk about more but
the demon thing obviously is near and
dear to my heart
so I would talk to them about walking in
freedom and things like that and then
like after we left someone talked to one
of the other guys who was with me and
said hey you guys need to lay off for
the demon stuff so much I don't I don't
think these guys are ready for the demon
stuff they have to kind of graduate and
go to another higher level to like
graduate to hear about demons and as I
hold on if you're dealing with heroin
addiction methamphetamines
spirit realm is not that far from you
you are dealing with demonic influence
pharmakeia
witchcraft and sorcery guess what comes
along with that people demons pharmakeia
witchcraft and sorcery like mixing up
magic potions chemistry what do you
think methamphetamine and crack cocaine
is they put all types of crazy stuff in
in that stuff like bathroom cleaners and
all kind of its demonic it opens up
portals in your mind it burns your brain
cells out it's demonic possession I've
seen people who have spent years in that
on these binges and mixing up and
they'll tell you I was like I'm a witch
in the woods mixing up a magic potion
that I was gonna sell to people and it
will put them all under a strong
delusion I've seen these people have
spirits on them and they'll come to
church who bugged out of their mind
they receive prayer and healing and
demons are cast off of them and out of
them they come back the next day they
can look you in the eye they're able to
have conversations with you but then
they say don't talk about demons because
they're just not ready that's crazy
90% of Jesus's ministry was dealing with
demons man you guys are going off in the
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I just heard something let's see here we
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we have a caller from the 81/4 caller
who we speaking with hey what's up truth
a is Dorian aka this all renegade and I
was going bro hey man I've been I've
been actually amazing you know it's been
a long time since I've been in the
digital frequencies
I took a hiatus I had to take a little
digital detox yeah I think that there's
something synchronistic happening right
now just for the simple fact that the
subject matter that you're discussing on
right now is something that I had
actually experienced about a week and a
half ago I which I definitely would love
that they talk about that but first bra
I would like to congratulate you on your
release of your book that's phenomenal
that's that's amazing brother so
congrats on there man hard work pays off
bro took a long time you've long as
you're consistent man I'm saying all
things are possible right that's right I
know you've been granted brothers oh
that's that's amazing um but yeah I've
been I took one year it's been actually
it's been one year in one week I've
taken off from the digital currencies so
that was I Instagram I've been off
Facebook since 2011 but I into the gram
I've been off for a year YouTube all of
that and off
just really recenter myself still
engaging in my daily practices and
whatnot but just trying to to be present
and you know regain my connection to my
true self instead of a you know my
digital self but I am gonna probably
jump back into the digital frequencies
and get back on to becoming active and
everything like that but I i'm currently
currently working right now and i just
jumped on i first thing that popped up
was your podcast and I was like oh yeah
let me let me jump off and I've been
listening the past few minutes with you
you know talking on the subject matter
with you know the demonology and
everything like that and most definitely
I like I said I had an experience that I
would like to probably you know share
with you and the tribe and family that's
all listen is yeah if you want to do it
now you want schedule that episode
brother you just let me know man
your family definitely I would love this
schedule an episode with you you know
when we get up we always dive deep but
you know this will just be quick just to
kind of jump on the subject matter of
what you're talking about you know this
was about two weeks ago you know I I do
engage in some things that maybe some of
your your listeners might not I you know
like or a wind setter man we have we
have like we got a huge eclectic
audience man so don't know don't feel
that way yeah that's what I like
yeah that's I like to hear well I do
engage in you know reading tarot cards I
read not only for myself but I've read
others as well when when I feel called
to do so typically I I carry a deck of
tarot cards around and I also engage in
you know other types of things like yoga
Kundalini hatha Ashtanga a lot of energy
work breath work those types of things
which you know obviously you know you
can get you into altered states of
consciousness and open you up and change
your consciousness to different place
is that you engage with other types of
energies and entities and and things
like that and if you become familiar in
those types of realms you may even
become familiar with some of those
energies that seem familiar and may make
a friend themselves or or you know
communicate yeah exactly I two weeks ago
I don't know what I had was engaged with
or what had invited this particular
energy to take over however I was
sitting on my bed I was reading and all
of a sudden I felt the tears like on the
back of my neck and you know just around
my body I can feel that an electric
tingle and I can feel that hair is kind
of stick up like there was a higher
electricity or static electricity around
me and all of a sudden I had an
awareness it's something that I couldn't
see but I had an awareness to that
something was there
and what started happening is I felt as
if it was trying to enter into my body
through my Anahata the heart chakra
that's where I felt that it was that
type of particular energy was trying to
enter now like I said I couldn't see I
see this physically but I had the sense
of an awareness that that's what was
happening and I was then able to pick up
on maybe like just like we could pick up
on the voice inside of our head I could
pick up on a different voice that was
different than the voices inside of my
head and the voice was saying that it
wanted to gain access that it wanted to
get in and I felt as if it was trying to
come in through the anahata and I was
resistant to it because the energy did
not heal it did not feel right
it felt extremely foreign and it felt
the only word that I could say or I used
to describe it is it felt evil and it
felt I felt as if it wanted to enter or
use my
as a host for nefarious reasons and so I
was resistant allowing it to come in and
as I shave that resistance and then
started it steamed or felt as if it took
my arm and started twisting my arm back
and behind me and started twisting my
neck over to the left side and so it was
almost like a like an attack and I
started sweating and I started saying I
think I'm being attacked I think I'm
being attacked and I couldn't I couldn't
relieve the energy and just for you know
the simple fact that you're having this
type of conversation and whatnot the
only thing that I could think of just
for you know my biblical knowledge and
everything like that from the past and
everything like that the only thing that
I could think of sustained in name I
said God made hot day and immediately I
was kind of like laying down on my bed
at the time as it was like twisting my
arm in my neck at the Y on a hot day
immediately I didn't do it
i sat straight up it was like a
forcefully sat straight up and the
energy was gone and it felt as if the
atmosphere or the room that electricity
and whatnot has subsided so wild
experience that I had there but the
simple fact that you're talking about
those things I definitely feel that that
particular type of an energy or that
energetical force was you know probably
with what I've been experienced too and
that different types of State tonight
that I go into and whatnot I would say
that that was I felt as if it was
demonic for sure man I got so many
questions bro this is a full this is
what you're doing what you're doing yoga
where you're chanting were you using
hallucinogens like what were you doing
what were you doing that kind of engaged
that encounter
well that's the same because I I don't
think that I had brought in anything new
to my practice as far as the types of
things that I do
I mean at the practices that I do on the
daily astanga-yoga I do breath work and
the only thing that I can think of is
that maybe the particular type of dress
work that I've been doing the past maybe
two months I've kind of switched up my
my breath work or I've got deeper into
my dress work because you know when you
start getting into meditation you start
getting into your spiritual practices
and everything like that it's
consistency and the consistency will
bring you into deeper state you know
that the more that you get used to it
the more that you're able to to get
comfortable in those states kind of
allow the mind to not be cluttered with
all different types of chatter and
whatnot that will bring you out of say a
meditative state or or if you're
accessing the ethereal realm and I would
say the only thing that had changed if
I'm really trying to think about it is
maybe just I knew or a few different
breathing techniques that I had switched
up that were allowing me to you know
forcefully get into those states plus
you know my yoga practice as well as as
excels as well because I'm about three
three years in you know daily practice
and whatnot so you know when I get into
meditative States it doesn't take me a
long time now I can get in fairly
quickly I can access you know different
states and what I would consider the
ethereal realm I can access those pretty
quickly so I really can't say though
what had brought that in or what had
brought that on
I don't know maybe it was just the you
had mentioned it mentioned it as well
you know where you have different
alignments of different times of the
year that allow different types of
energies to come in different portals
different types of electromagnetic
frequencies you know due to the
alignment of you know the Stars or the
lights that we see in the sky so it was
definitely a wild experience
I really can't say well I can put a
finger on what I was doing or what I had
done that may be in vogue or invite that
type of an energy in there's a comment
here from no well and the well says it
says if you awaken the light within
someone else you will get attacked and
then they also say that sometimes it has
nothing to do with view but influence to
Jesus or I can like does strike
resonates with me because the simple
fact that she said that you know brought
a lot of visions into my mind
in regards to my practices and you know
I'm a conscious coach as well so I do
help many individuals in regards to you
know its spirituality different types of
breath work they are self mastery and
especially in the past I would say month
and a half or two months I've brought on
a few new clients and that could very
well be I that I've never even thought
about yeah I mean it could it could be
so much man again it says like a whole
you know this is the cool thing about
this podcast guy I can't say yep it was
a demon and they showed up because of
you did this ungodly practice right hey
yeah you can explore it a little bit
because you've had beautiful encounters
doing these practices and things as well
right right exactly yeah
yep I've had I've had encounters that
that have helped me I've had I really
rarely have encounters or or feelings or
types of energies that I would say
negative far are threatening yeah or
negative yeah typically I don't I don't
allow myself to be opened up to negative
frequencies or what I would consider
lower vibrational entities you know I
keep my body in a state of high
alkalinity and high pH as well which you
know if you're keeping the body and
lower states of emotion
leaving your body susceptible that's
right you know the lower your vibration
the lower the amount of electricity you
have coming in the more susceptible you
are to allowing lower vibrational
entities that manifest themselves around
death and decay to manifest themselves
inside of your body we talked about that
before I eat you know parasites and and
things like that
therefore secondly you know you're
leaving your body a portal for those
energies and entities to come in yeah
what is it one of the Kabbalistic
understandings is this like as you
ascend into the heavenly realms now I
know the Bible talks about this from
like a almost like a physical or etheric
plane that we ascend to like actually
into outer space and in Heaven's but
spiritually as you're doing the inner
work progressing through these levels
getting better at what you do that you
are you have to face these different
entities who are like guarding over
different places I mean in the
scriptures who would be like showing um
the Israelites moving from one land to
the next as they were trying to find the
promised land and when they seen the
promised land which was the land flowing
with milk and honey
there were giants there there were
enemies there and it looked like they
couldn't get through so the Kabbalistic
understanding is that there's different
angels that you must face that you must
prove yourself to to get past to get
into these different levels of density
and vibrational frequency again like I'm
with you I don't really face a lot of
the lower level demonic entities anymore
because I'm not doing stupid lower-level
stuff you know what I'm saying but if I
do right up to those attacks and
frequencies but again you know the more
people that we help some of these
entities get mad because you're helping
people you're helping who could you you
could have been visited by a spirit or
an entity that you removed off of
someone else just trying to scare you
they can't really do anything to you
they just close you even though it was a
different energy and stuff like that it
could scare you I've had beautiful
euphoric
encounters with God or the Holy Spirit
to where like I was contorting and doing
some of that kind of stuff was violently
shaking and but it was the energy
through your body your body reacts to it
a certain type of way but it felt good
so just because there's like jerking and
twitching and stuff like that
it was that the first time you've ever
had that or have you ever had that
beautiful energy to pranayama the Holy
Spirit pulsating through your body to
where you're shaking your crying and
jerking and things like that
almost definitely you know on pretty
much cuz you deep into the yoga mat
you're like really really trance into
what you do yeah
appreciate it yeah I would say anytime
that I've really had any type of and it
can encounter or anything that I would
perceive as an encounter there's always
some sort of shaking or you know
sweating and everything like that coming
back out of it even if coming out of it
was within within a second you know
within a second year third dimensionally
but there you know theoretically that
there's no time but that time could be
perceived based upon you know what the
interaction was or what you've received
as downloads and everything like that
you know it could it could seem very
long it could seem like years you know
I've had an experience that I can
honestly say I was there for what that
perceived is you know over a thousand
years but um here in the third dimension
that was you know within a hundredth of
a second long but always any time that
I've ever had any cuts been encounter
whether even if it's uh you know
positive and it's a beautiful type of
experience or just being around that
cuts the frequency come back out either
you know shaking you know it means like
I have a lot of electricity riding
through my body sometimes just an
extreme amount of sweat in that amount
of sweat is like and Beyond profusely
sweating it's almost as if I literally
had jumped into a pool
and then you know it's drenched but yeah
even if the positives I still experience
you know those types of things but I've
never experienced that when it was like
finally where I felt that my body would
contorting and oh boy son or son I
allowed it to continue something's gonna
break some of those Kundalini
experiences that are just like people
like we got put in the hospital and
stuff you know what I'm saying like
spontaneous awakening that like now I
felt the energy and vibration is shaking
contort but not like that
I not I've never had like the there's
some crazy stuff like people like doing
just ungodly back bends and neck neck
top of the hair right it's crazy
yeah it's called catalepsy and that was
the first time that I had I want I don't
know if I could consider what had
happened me being in a state of
catalepsy but it was definitely enough
that I couldn't or in my awareness in my
consciousness I couldn't fight by where
how it was contorting me I couldn't
correct it it was overpowering me and if
it would have continued my shoulder my
wrist and my neck would have been broken
because it got it was it was happening
pretty quickly but it got to that point
where I didn't know any what else to do
or anything else how I was overpowering
me so you know the only thing that I
knew was you know to say the name and
I've never really done that before you
know just said that the name out loud
you know that the young ones would say
Yahweh but you know that the German
tongue of it is the Yahweh hande
and as soon as I said that I kid you not
it it left and meet vanished immediately
and I sat right up I'm not I'm not
out here be like oh you know pretty good
using like that but you know I have no I
don't explore more dude oh you should
explore it more start like that you
should know with that chant but bro you
can chant that you can change that name
and chant and just tap into that
beautiful vibration man because like
it's you know it's the highest yeah
it's the highest form of love dude you
know what I'm saying and really start it
with that dude you should try it it's oh
it's so good it's so beautiful man yeah
most definitely and you know there there
is definitely a certain vibrational tone
to that particular name in the rest my
heart is sacred yeah the heart space
yeah exactly
yes yeah and when you know when you're
doing particular types of chant mantras
prayers hymns anything like that you
know what the way that you're supposed
to do it is you're supposed to be doing
that in a meditative state from the
anahatha you're on the heart chakra
because their heart is that chakra is
the one that creates the viber
vibratory tones throughout your whole
body that's the catalyst to your auric
field is your heart that's what's
creating your vibration and so when
you're you know in that meditative state
meaning you're able to manipulate or
change the frequency or your frequency
output and you're able to do that you
have dominion over your own bodies that
you know how to go within and just the
same as flexing your muscles on the
outside flexing your biceps and
everything like that we we all see
everybody on the social media being able
to do all that they don't a lot of
people don't know how to flex the
muscles and the endocrine systems on the
insides which the endocrine systems are
the chakra systems and those are the
glands that are responsible for
releasing electromagnetic fluid through
the body and you know it when you're
flexing your heart properly you're able
to change your vibratory tone and when
you're saying hymns with that as well
you're now bringing in this
six chakra throat chakra you know and
ultimately trying to gain seventh chakra
activation that ignite your antenna to
to jump into the ethereal realm yeah man
dude I'm gonna wake up call to me Oh
most definitely I'm gonna reach out to
you because I would definitely love to
jump on with you man
explore some subjects you know dive deep
with you I think that I we always have
good subject matter that the jump on and
you know that your fans and the tribe
definitely you know resonates with a lot
of people for sure I had a lot of people
always reaching out to me asked for the
last show out at home with you as well
so we definitely need to do that for
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good to hear from my brother hey I don't
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much of your show man I just want to
give massive respects to you
congratulations on on releasing the book
I'm actually going to pick it up as well
so I'll probably end up purchasing this
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I can't wait but connect and I will set
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I brother some yes most definitely
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Dorian realm renegade we did a really
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got a let's see here how do i unmute you
caller from the 206 is it 206 who we're
speaking with hello what's up man I know
who this is by the voice okay get
Ritchie how are you today what's going
on man how are you doing we're doing
really well and interested about your
topic and I'm grateful that you're
choosing to unpack this information
today so thank you all for sure man
would you have anything to add to it or
any questions about it actually I'm
gonna see if I can try to make sense I'm
going to go backwards from the previous
caller become the person who you were
just speaking with had some really cool
insights but I think if we need to touch
on I think that belief should remain
flexible rather than people flexing
their beliefs hmm because I've
interacted with a lot of people in
alcohol there's official support even
like in Christian or Gnostics our goal
is that say this is their belief and
they're very fun and they're not being
like a slinky like flexible they're not
learning to see things from other
vantage points and entertaining the fact
that maybe they don't already have the
whole truth yeah agree so to me that
kind of flexibility is often connected
when people are flexible inside of their
mind and something they can not want to
be flexible in their beliefs and if you
help somebody become flexible you might
somehow inherit their attention if that
connects ADAT hmm
yeah I think that that's what um I think
that you've properly described this
podcast open and being able to look into
anything still having your own beliefs
right having your own kind of foundation
but being open to look into other realms
right truth truths that also the
perspective of occupying that narrative
with integrity like you know your
beliefs but you can like to be an person
of integrity when you're listening to
somebody else's beliefs and not
immediately shoot them down and say that
their beliefs are wrong or insist that
they must conform to yours and I think
from a lot of the guests that you had it
allowed me to like not insulate but like
expand my perception because I would
have never thought to wonder what the
mom from eg is up to but now I know like
there's a whole bunch of different
opportunities so when you've made and I
think it's really great that you're
continuing to creat such a solid
platform for that including the text
that you wrote so it's a wonderful book
I'm about halfway through it right now
and I'll just keep diving forward with a
couple more notes at that school hammer
so the name and the vibration I know
that goes super deep I haven't found any
mystery system that doesn't acknowledge
the sound having some kind of magical or
mystical energy so when I think about
using sacred names I kind of think about
it like we're using our own sacred
nickname so when people are making a
prayer does that make sense they're kind
of calling a higher form of self that
has this name but we're still all
connected in that sort of yeah and what
and what's revealed to you like you
can't call on something that's not
revealed to you right you so that so
there's an idea that goes along with
that name too right true definitely that
like me that really smoothly segues into
the idea of levels of belief because
there's a level of belief where people
think of names don't mean anything
and then as you sort of expand your
beliefs you see the names maybe those
are important you know
yeah the vibrations and their characters
you know they're so that they're highly
important I'm kind of like I like
unknowingly grew in
to my name you know what I'm saying like
even the name true Seeger like grew into
it for real just started with one thing
and just embodied it in because I would
sign autographs with that I would
introduce myself by that name and then
you know your name is your character and
you become the true seeker you know what
I'm saying and so whatever you call in
it's not it's not what other people call
you it's what you respond to you know
what I'm saying and that's the name and
the character and the vibration that you
walk in and you find that in others and
whether it's comes in the form of
deities there's aspects I mean the whole
thing with where he was talking about
the sacred name of God yo hey hey
there's different ways to pronounce like
even that is broken off into seventy
names or many other different names
right the 72 names of God and there's
different like characteristics of that
name in this this so many
characteristics of the name of God but
then so many characteristics of our name
and who we are in this aspect you you
may know me as the true seeker you don't
know me as the lover you don't know me
as the father right and it's just
different ways that we encounter God
that's that same way we or whatever we
call God right we know him as again the
Father we know him as the mother we know
him as the Jehovah Jireh the provider
whatever there's these different aspects
and some people whether it's do research
and then gnosis of practical experiences
experiences you know him or it's
whatever you say him for me and in
deeper levels that other people aren't
privy to because they've never
experienced that right it's almost as
though there's an opportunity did you
get to know that greater force through
its works in a more intimate way again
going back to Jesus with his disciples
some 30 some 60 some 100 fold
you only know me as in passing you only
know me because you see me on the
internet you know I'm saying you don't
know this side of me or whatever in the
same thing with God and with people and
relationships and religion and all of
this stuff I think we should approach at
all
that's that openness of in exploration I
think how arrogant is it to think that
we have God figured out like you know we
have it all figured out we only know
this one aspect
this one like perspective of what we
call God or spirituality right true and
I see that there's a level of respect
and that's brought in because if you're
respecting yourself enough to know that
you may not know something all new
information you're going to treatment
that modicum of respect like that's a
standard you know if you don't have that
level of respect but it's not only your
beliefs but other people around you it
may be hard to deliver that externally I
realized something like I personally
found an instance where it was wise for
me in a narrative to accept the term
guru as a useful term and I used a thing
called the grandmother rule I don't know
if you've heard about it I don't think
so but the great the grandmother rule
for gurus is that a guru is like a
grandmother just because they're their
guru doesn't mean they're my guru okay
so to me the grandmother rules just
because nobody's one's grandmother
doesn't mean that they're your
grandmother when you still want to treat
all elders and grandparents well but if
someone is giving you really strict and
specific instructions that you don't
agree with it's important to kind of
trace that source and make sure it's
coming from who you want to be listening
to rather than just somebody who kind of
appears like who you should be listening
to yeah that was one of the things that
really I heard early on like in early
2000s working with prison inmates who
were really big into Islam in the five
percenters is they would say that they
were it was like one of their tenants to
respect every holy man and to respect
Jesus and to respect Moses and these
other teachers who were now they don't
necessarily follow them or agree with
them or anything like that but they
respected them there was a level of
respect that they had for all of these
different teachers and holy men right
and so that that was the first time I
heard something like that because like
in most religions there's a form of
disrespect there right there's a form of
disrespect because their way is the only
way and Jesus is the only way so anybody
who compares to him on a level or who
claims to be a teacher or a holy man
in there you know they're trying to
steal his light or steal his glory and
some being some type of guru but
essentially in a sense even Jesus raised
up other gurus under himself right
totally it would be a recognition and an
identification in my mind of the purity
of message like if you are truly a
person to face you understand that other
people have faith they're like in the
same Lane as you they might not be
taking all the same turns and like
making all the same adjustments but
they're still hot from the cohesive
understanding that there's more to life
than this critter that we have like our
ten fingers and ten toes aren't where
our world stops yeah always uh always
joke around with the non-id congo john
hooks and i'm like man you my guru bro
everybody check out my guru john hooks
and he's like he's a brother in order
for me to be your guru you have to be my
groove guru as well I'm just like salute
man yeah oh God totally that's super rat
race weed I always loved when you are
collaborating with his specific works
because I think you're both approaching
it from separate sides of the circular
table and it's really wonderful to hear
that musical expression man I my
gratitude for that dude is I like out
the window man out the roof like he's
super to me that guy sure for sure
blessed blessed blessed I wanted to
throw them one more idea just something
that can be jotted down maybe for
further inquiry but I don't know if
you've heard the term and J lien hmm not
by that pronunciation for sure for sure
it's propagated right now by this dude
named Pierre soo bahk so Pierre savate
writes a lot about like holographic
reality and I checked out a few of his
works lately and J lien would be a
fusion between the term angel and a
alien into one thing so it's a pretty
solid direction there's a project called
secret energy and a guy named seven
Bomar that does a lot of podcasts and a
lot of information and this is one of
the texts that I've discerned out of it
came up in conversation about Jordan
Maxwell the other day so I wanted to
make sure to throw that on your table
but again many thanks for taking the
time to not only put the pen to the
paper and make the text and book happen
but also to do the continuous broadcast
and keep the patreon live much-loved
romantic
ah to support brother hope hopefully I
see you tonight man school of the mystic
7 p.m. central hello
for sure brother Salam Salam peace
richie good brother man that's
interesting the combination of an angel
in an alien right one in the same same
breath I think so
another caller here we're gonna jump to
the 9 1 8 area code caller who we
speaking with what up how are you good
how are you good good you got anything
to add or questions anything with this
conversation yeah I really enjoyed Orion
did I get that right yep yep yep ROM
renegade Orion I got a episode with him
that went really deep we should check it
out I'll share it with you I love it you
guys definitely show some points that
was stirring inside me so I'm gonna
reference your book here on page don't
quote me on there no no it's Scripture
and then I had a question for you you
were talking about the angel spirits and
demons and the Fallen Angels and you
quoted Jun or 15 and second Peter to
sorta size typically Jude 115 and you
know Enoch also the seventh from Adam
prophesied of these saying behold the
Lord with ten thousand estates to
execute judgment upon all and to
convince all that are ungodly among them
of all their ungodly deeds which they
have ungodly committed and of their hard
speeches which ungodly sinners have
spoken against him and then Leslie
seeing 2nd the.45 websites there's not
the Angels that send that casting down
the hill and deliver them into chains of
Darkness you reserved unto judgement as
they're about in the old world but saved
Noah the eighth person the preacher of
righteousness bringing in the flood upon
the world of the ungodly so my question
they're running like a lot of trains of
thought different mystics and stuff that
we are in that time where if you say
Here I am more that he'll send you out
who to judge these these entities that
are tormenting areas or people in your
part of the judgment I was curious your
take on oh in that time you believe that
or is that a time to tell me that's a
very interesting question I think a lot
of that when we get into where we are on
a biblical timeline I think that a lot
of that as far as like prophetically has
already happened Matthew 24 I believe
the majority if not all of it has
already happened with a lot of that
stuff and then going into the judging of
the angels
I'm with those mystics I'm with what
what you're saying
maybe there's a greater degree that
that's going to come maybe this is gonna
shift and be a little bit more ethereal
you know this place whether there is no
more death maybe where the New Jerusalem
comes down maybe that's when we cross
the Great Divide maybe that's when we
pass yeah into the next life that
there's this whole realm with just this
level of Ascension determining like
Earth being the school and then it's
determined where you go if you're a
teacher from beyond the grave we know
the great cloud of witnesses you know I
cover that in the book and and some of
these mystics and people who teach from
beyond the grave even in the Bible right
we Jesus was learning from Moses and
Elijah that appeared to him an amount of
Transfiguration and then other mystics
now Christian mystics were saying
they're meeting with their elders who
you know they served in ministry 20
years ago who had now passed on who are
appearing to them from beyond the grave
right so maybe there's a pecking order
or this sortation if you will some
people believe that you're reincarnated
back into the earth or I don't
necessarily agree with that or believe
it but um
you know I think I think that there's
more to come but the spiritual aspect to
all of these these ideas in Revelation
how it's all encoded its encoded and I
do think that we're living we're living
out a lot of that stuff and it's we
think about this thousand years of peace
and all of this a thousand like just to
find out where we are or at least how it
relates to us now right because a lot of
that stuff has been fulfilled most
people aren't living in the reality
they're still looking for it to come and
if you're continuing if you're
continuing to look for something to come
you're not in the present moment
experiencing it activated and walking in
it now because you're looking for it to
come you know
Jesus is gonna come back one day so
therefore we can't live our life like
he's already come and sitting upon the
stones of our heart right and created a
new person within us and and you know
giving us the light through the Holy
Spirit but I think by proxy we're going
to to do a lot of those things whether
it's consciously or subconsciously
people who don't even believe it are
doing it they're judging angels they're
going into territories because they are
that light which shines in the darkness
right no matter where you go if you're
shining that light that darkness
trembles the darkness flees throughout
your conversation demons and chains and
strongholds are being judged abounding
loose no matter where you go so whether
you believe in it or not there is
definitely some level to it where this
whole song and dance that's going on and
we don't even know it right we're
judging the Angels by our conversation
now there's just gonna be different
levels to it if you're conscious of it
if you come here like and it gets weird
it gets into some weird stuff like hey
we're gonna come here we're gonna pray
down the principality over the White
House and you know many people have been
a parts of things just and continue to
do those things do I think that it works
it hasn't I mean you know what I'm
saying I don't think it has like going
to the fine sorry I was just thinking
like well you a beautiful point you said
that consciousness authorities at sea
it's already been taken care of but if
you have a bunch of people that believe
the same subconscious fallen reality
that creates a larger song hold in the
land do you think that's what they mean
when they say we're going to go here
pray against this one really is just
dealing with the consciousness of
conscience of people in the area yeah
in it but but it's a little bit more
than just praying though like you have
to plant yourself there right no yeah
it's not just hey we're gonna drive to
New Orleans we're gonna pray against all
these witches out here and change the
change the vibration it don't work like
that like like the prayer and the
fasting and the communion and speaking
it is part of it but there's so there's
people are really doing that right now
again even with the New Orleans thing
there's it there's a revival happening
right now on Bourbon Street there's a
guy who started a church in an old bar
on Bourbon Street and PTIN people are
walking in off the streets and they're
worshiping the Lord and they're there
they've planted themselves there
they didn't just pass through on a
vacation and pray and then and leave
right so there that so with them being
there they're going to impact the
vibration of that city one soul at a
time one person at a time and they may
not knock it out themselves they not it
may not be but then they may who knows
but yeah I think it's more than just
we're gonna try we're gonna fly even
like us again people flying over New
Orleans that's fly over in New Orleans
in an airplane we're closer to the
heavens we're contending with spirits
and we're just gonna bless it on I just
bless everything I pass over you know
what I'm saying like it's kind of it
kind of goes into it like in the book of
James where it talks about faith and
showing you my faith by my works I I can
bless you and say hey man hope it goes
good for you or I can stop I can be the
Good Samaritan get off of my horse spend
my money get down it and really do life
with you and that's where we're gonna
see the most change the spiritual stuff
is practical it's spiritual its esoteric
it's far out but it's super practical at
the end of the day excuse a lot of Derek
can you reflect that really well your
book and I just want to thank you for
writing it out and opening up your heart
and what you're doing see Hubbard and
navigating with people it's a blessing
hey thank you so much for the support
Amanda and you just being you and
showing up and doing what you do you're
awesome - thank you so much yeah I'll
see you later I'm a friend bye bye
Amanda extraterrestrial good friend
caller from the 702 who we speak it with
hey how are you hey I'm good how are you
doing not too bad we were talking
earlier about the whole demonology and
all that stuff and you got to think
about what their end goal is if you if
you kind of start with the end in mind
you you start to kind of see what you
see things differently when you when you
think okay like what's the ultimate goal
here and what their ultimate goal is is
encouraging despair so any kind of pain
or despair and when you're talking about
demons and addiction in particular and
you think about how it's like an
epidemic addictions mental illness it's
epidemic levels and that's driving you
know the homeless problem and I'm
freaking upper families and you know
just on and on and that's that's a
despair and that's what they're that's
what they're trying to get at is
encouraging that despair yeah that's
what you're left with I mean what does
the scripture says what is it were what
we're hoping
right so hope is gonna be be the
opposite of despair and so they can't
really coexist right the demons and the
darkness and these negative influence it
which brings about despair in the end so
you're absolutely right yep my name's
Gerry emergency oh well yeah there's a
guy named Gerry Mariinsky who was a
clinical psychologist his whole career
any
really started to question things and he
wasn't a guy that was you know
particularly spiritual or particularly
religious and his work in you know the
really big syke hospitals like 60s 70s
80s when those really big syke hospitals
were still in operation and you know you
weren't if you were schizophrenic if you
if you know if you were a certain type
of schizophrenic and you were bad enough
you weren't out loose or you weren't at
home or you weren't homeless because you
were in one of those big syke hospitals
it wasn't necessarily a nice place to be
but that's where you were and he started
you know really noticing things and
questioning things and he came to the
conclusion that a lot of what we
understand or some of what we understand
is mental illness is some sort of
demonic influence and he'd be a really
interesting guy to talk to you if you
ever get curious about him he's been on
different YouTube channels
Jerry Mars in ski dr. Gary Mariinsky
Freeman fly had a couple of other shows
I've had him and you know you listen to
him talk and you go wow like it really
opened things up and I've seen it in my
own home when my husband was struggling
with with alcoholism yeah and he wasn't
the same person he was not the same
person so I mean it really kind of
changed my view of a couple things as
well yeah and you know we talked about
David Icke really briefly one times I
popped into school of the Mystics like
I'm usually working on Thursdays I
popped in to school of the Mystics and
we talked about David Icke for a second
and how he's shifted from you know the
archons and the reptilians and he's now
he's talking about
Sabbatini and frankest but I mean it's
the same goal of you know trying to get
to that despair so anything they can do
anything they can do to break up your
peace of mind your happiness your peace
your Wallace on all levels your food
your you know right with everything they
you yeah with your psyche like again you
just said food like that you know all of
that stuff comes into play with how we
feel and how you know we're gonna feel
today or how we perform and how we feel
spiritually you know eating all this bad
food but then wanting to be optimal you
know I'm saying spiritually or
physically you're not gonna have the
strength and vigor you're not gonna be
able to have the mental clarity all of
that stuff comes into play and so I mean
I've seen it in my own life and then the
group that I used to follow some
teachers of mine they would be out on
the streets and they would be street
preaching and they would deal with a lot
of what we will call demons but it was
coming through mentally ill people who
would just lash out and and scream and
stuff but it's it's like it's the end
goal they want you to be like they want
to live in your mind they want to live
in your psyche and that's that's the
craziest saying that that people need to
understand that it's a what do you call
it um it's a it's a spiritual stronghold
as deep deep and creepy and it's demonic
as these entities may seem or be
physical entities that lived in outer
space or have physical bodies or
whatever like they want to live in your
psyche or they want to live in your body
as a disease a dis-ease of the body
right putting you out of alignment I
remember when I was dealing with strong
demonic possession and one of the
scariest things was like this I had this
it only lasted maybe two or three days
but it was very scary but I had this
weird battle with hypochondria when I
was really deep into it and possessed
with demons and stuff they made me think
that everything every ailment every
sickness that I heard or seen on TV that
someone had I immediately believed the
100% that I had that whether it was
brain cancer I remember testicular
cancer all of these crazy ailments I
overwhelmingly believed that I had them
and it was so much so that it was
demonic like it was scary it was fear it
was crippling it was I was gonna die and
anytime someone men
in something it was like this
transference into my psyche that I had
it and it was only two or three days
where that happened but it was very
scary and I was I was Lu I was going
insane and that's when I understood I
needed help like because I'm almost
there like they've almost I'm almost at
the point of no return so when I call it
up for help and you know call it out to
God and try to call some preachers to
come pray with me but they want to get
you in in this state of where where you
can't function they want to think for
you they need a body they need a host
because they have desires they have
things and they need a a body to do it
and some people play with these entities
and want to open up themselves to you
know people open up themselves
unknowingly but some people that want to
do it knowingly and just like but I'm
telling you it's never worth it in the
end and that's one thing that I say
throughout the entire book like that the
state of that person again
going back to what Jesus said he says
the state of that person is worse than
before once they leave and you close
that door keep it closed because seven
stronger are coming back like he says
that person is whose estate is worse off
than before so much so that I'm like
what we're talking about these
addictions and stuff if you're not gonna
help them and you're not gonna disciple
them maybe leave them in their addiction
like you really got to do the work you
don't just pass by and pray like you got
a man you gotta have a community you
gotta have a safety place and there's a
lot of them out there and they're all
not I mean there's so many different
names of different places where people
can get involved and grow and learn but
it it really is a spiritual battle that
we have to walk out and it's not just
pray for that person and it's done and
we just keep walking I've came at some
of my evangelist friends yeah they say
show up in the middle of you you know
the hood and the ghetto and there's
heroin addicts and crack addicts and
junkies walking down the street and they
come and get prayed for receive healing
and all kind of stuff and they leave out
but they don't train them up they don't
like have people in place that's gonna
bring them to church if you will or or
see to it that these people you know
get help and it says the worst that the
state of that person is worse than
before and it that's a crazy example of
how that stuff really happens it's got
to be in balance like you can get lost
in the spiritual stuff for sure but it's
got to be in balance like I said you
know like you got to have your you got
to have your medical care you got to
have your your good digestion and your
good nutrition and you got to get some
sunshine and some exercise and you need
some sort of a purpose you need to be
working you need the spiritual side it's
like it's all got to be in balance and
you know when we're talking about say
one person goes down with this like one
person gives in and has given themselves
over now their job they're almost like a
meat puppet now and now they're there
another how can I put it but they're
basically another soldier that can be
used now to influence so you know you
get a family grouping say is like a
family of five you know mom dad three
kids
and one goes down with addiction or
criminality or mental illness or
whatever now that puts a wedge in the
family so now you don't have one victim
you've got five and then whoever is
affected
you know like mom goes into work she's
extremely depressed whatever now it's
it's almost like a virus it's like a
contagion but you don't want to go to
the other extreme with it of it's just
all spiritual or it's just all physical
where it's just all medical or just all
mental it's it's got to be like a full
spectrum and when you think of how they
send people to rehab and the you know
like the success rates of a traditional
rehab for addictions it's just so it's
just so low it's so it it's pitiful
that's sad yeah and you wonder why it's
like okay well there's a full spectrum
of different kinds of rehab center you
can send them to and you know want to
focus
on yoga and one will focus on this and
one will focus on that it's that's great
but it when are we gonna focus on the
whole person yeah I mean we all ya the
podcast said we did the other day I
think we really tackled this subject of
the different modalities for healing and
and they all work like all of that the
ones that you just mentioned they all
work if you're willing to work it you
know in even with a a you know a a being
a rehab they say it works if you work
the steps work if you work the steps
that's their thing and and so you find
out with a lot of these rehabs people
are there because they have to be there
I didn't choose to go to these twelve
steps I interviewed a guy a couple about
two years ago now he he went the sixteen
seventeen different rehabs and on the
sixteenth one it worked you know it took
16 before I finally kicked them you know
and uh but yeah they all of them work if
you want them if you want it to work it
could be Church it could be religion it
could be Kundalini Yoga like it can be
any type of practice that helps you to
become mindful to appreciate life to
work through forgiveness and all of
those kind of things they all work if
you if you work them if you don't mind
me asking what was it that that ended up
working for your husband oh oh I think I
lost her
again they all work if you if you work
on the we went into a lot of detail in
in this past podcast but the universe is
set up in such a way that you find what
you're looking for I got another guy a
good friend of mine in my inbox right
now he sent me this video of this guy
exposing an exposed video on Lauren
Daigo the Christian singer and it's just
long it's about 30 minutes I did not
watch to watch like 2 minutes of it it's
okay this is enough because I know what
it is but the guy was exposing Lauren
Daigle and saying that she wasn't a
Christian and she doesn't know her Bible
and she's not against homosexuality and
just I had all of these accusations
against her why she isn't a Christian
art artist and Inman isn't even a
Christian and my friend watched the
video and he said hey what do you think
about this man I said I dunno I seen the
new Meza you know I used to make videos
like that I used to expose people and
point out people's flaws and failures
yes she probably don't know the Bible
like this guy she's probably not a
biblical theologian right she probably
doesn't know like everything that this
guy knows right but it's the fact that
the fact that this guy would make a
video and expose her downfall or her
flaws or whatever the case is and make a
video exposing it that's what I'm more
concerned with I'm not concerned about
her lack of faith or her judgment and
whatever my concern is with why is this
guy making a video kicking someone when
they're down or trying to put them down
because showing you why they aren't
Christian and stay away from it don't
listen to her music that's the thing I'm
into I wanted it to get to the
psychology behind that because something
triggers him so I told my friends to
look I don't I don't want to watch it
just because like you know I used to do
that and things and you read her lyrics
and she's got all these lyrics about how
beautiful Jesus is and fix your eyes
upon the beauty of Christ and I said man
read these lyrics and you can't be a
Christian and not be a Christian and
sing that you know I'm saying so you
find what you're looking for if you're
looking for the flaws again we have
people who tuned
in and out of my podcast they just jump
in from random points and times and they
just they look in the background and
they see pokemons or video games or I
think I have a wine wine bottles behind
me I have the caduceus wine bottle from
the tool lead singer James Maynard
Keenan and a wife got that bottle of
wine for me for Valentine's and
surprised me one year and so you know
and people will see the help he's got a
bottle of wine and there's some people
if you if people are watching this on on
YouTube and the video you see I have
these little this overlay and it's like
these little honeycomb and for them in
their psyche that for some reason the
honeycomb represents something satanic
like they'll leave comments and say that
I'm a Illuminati puppet because I have
symbolism all over my page or and
they're talking about its honeycomb
whether it means the hive mind or I
don't some bees and honeycombs and
octagons and things like that hexagon
hexagrams they're all symbolic and have
deeper meaning but you find what you're
looking for you find what you're looking
for
and that goes back to the healing part
that goes back to whatever religion I
believe you can find God in any of these
religions just like you can go and find
other things in those religions too you
can find fallacies you could probably
find child molestation you can find
heresies in all of them every single one
the Christian the Hindu the Muslim they
all got crazy stuff you just don't know
what it looked you're an outsider but
you can't see these things but if you're
looking for and you can find it the
signs and the symbols and stuff and I go
into a lot of detail on a lot of this
stuff in in the book even I talk about
signs and symbols every section in this
book could have been a book in and of
itself like I'm talking about the
duality and the different types of signs
and symbols and
you may see something but I see
something else this means something else
to me you know the sign of the Cross the
upside-down cross the Baphomet the
pentagram the upside-down pentagram like
it means different things to different
people unless you've done the research
in the study you're an outsider it's
gonna it's gonna be something totally
different to you you're not gonna get it
so there's a beauty in symbolism that
therefore people would say well let's
don't use any symbolism because it's
gonna confuse people and things like
that like it's so funny man I was doing
a I did a shirt for Marcus I know a lot
of you guys know that the rapper Mars
who used to rap with insane clown posse
but I did have interview with him and I
was working with some t-shirt designs
for him and he was on this big thing
like like exposing the demonic and all
kind of stuff like that and he sent me a
shirt design and it was a cross with a
crown in it and and there's a lot of
churches with that cross and crown I was
like like I don't care but I just want
you to know this is a Masonic symbol the
cross and crown is a Masonic symbol the
crown with the cross going he's like and
he did the research he's like I don't
want to know my shirt when it comes the
symbolism like the more you look look
into it the more you look at it
everything has a scientist there's
nothing new Under the Sun even we try to
make something up we find out that it
was used by a Sun cult 7,000 years ago
or so you know I'm saying like you know
my TS logo there's people who watch the
podcast they tune in they see the t s
for true seeker on the microphone here
and it does in it's supposed to
represent the staff of Moses with the
serpent around it or the caduceus right
in a symbolism and it represents healing
it represents wisdom it represents the
release of sacred energy are lining up
the spine and awakening it represents
the path of a way it represents so much
but people will tune in and they'll see
that one thing in their out
I went into a lot of I went into a long
rant and I hope I didn't I think I
might've even offended some people uh
Tuesday was a Tuesday talking about how
some people come walk with you only a
little ways it's the path of the mystic
it's the path of the light worker
they're not gonna be with you always and
you have you have to be open for that
you can't get offended you can't get mad
when people come and they're only there
I mean you think they're gonna they're
gonna be in there for a while I mean you
get you got to learn I mean it's it's
everyone like if you're on this path
that's which one of the tests I don't
know what grade it is in this school it
might be third grade I don't know but
you'll be on this path where we called
it the dark night of the soul and it's
it's a can be can be a lonely walk for a
lot of people so just get ready and and
I want to apologize if anybody got
offended for me saying that I know when
I speak about things openly everyone
thinks it's about them you know what I'm
saying and but that's just coming with
the information I know I talked about
the book but all of these things were
talking about or polarizing and if you
don't take a hard left or you don't take
a hard right and you go down the middle
you're gonna part people but I'm with
those people
I'm with the ones who want to see the
beauty I mean I'm with the ones who want
to see God in all things see the beauty
and I'll even the demonic I want to see
the demonic in all things I want to see
the bad stuff what you know what I'm
saying like the devil's advocate like
what could go wrong if we do this what
could people say what could people see
there's beauty in that in the story in
the symbolism
Chris garner says Joseph Campbell man
just trying to jump on to some of these
questions here again the phone lines are
open
coming towards almost the end of the
show it's hard to kind of you talking
and then read the questions too but if
anyone's asking a question and I didn't
answer it just copy and paste to ask it
again you
no I'll try to get to it and I sometimes
a stream moves so fast that I can't
can't keep up with it but um
shout out to again everyone listening
live and I don't want to marginalize and
shout out to the people listening on the
podcast thing apps as well you guys Rock
Karen says love and light from South
South Africa Vanna says perception is
reality in duality and all things yeah
what I said in what I said I think it
was a no I don't know what song it was
but I said perfectionist perception one
will become what they perceive
perfectionist perception one will become
what they perceive praying for open
heavens seeing visions of the eloheem I
think that was in calm Attica no no that
was in esoteric agenda
yeah perception man in perception is
beautiful though like even the intricacy
of that of we're all looking at the same
thing but what we're standing in at
different angles so we all see a
different piece of it separately and
it's different and it's revealed to us
differently from that path that path and
where we're standing like God for them
for the most part like if you look at
God is the all and everyone's
approaching it from a different
perspective and seeing a different light
and a different essence of his glory or
what he is or his or his rage you know
what I'm saying like there's just so
many I think that all possibilities
exist and all of them are value but and
I do find the beauty in what you focus
on the beauty of what you focus on
because you get to choose the Bible says
choose this day who you will serve the
life and death is in the tongue you get
to choose and and we its manifestation I
know there's areas and everyone's
different and I saw I respect where you
are no matter what no matter where you
are whether you agree or you believe or
we you're here and I respect that too
you know and just seeing the
Beauty and how eclectic our beliefs are
and again I'm just going deeper and
deeper on this whole what what is Christ
thing it's like the beauty of Christ
manifested in a group of people is not
manifested because we have all things in
common like the early church but I think
that the beauty is manifested that they
had differences and still came together
and we're still able to work through
their their beliefs in their isms and
schisms and it was still able to come
together that's where the beauty is at
least my perception of that beauty all
of its beautiful there is beauty when
you all have all things in common
there's Beauty that's beauty when you
ain't got nothing in common except love
and you choose to walk in that and you
don't even bring up your differences
because love is the greatest you know I
don't believe in aliens but I believe in
love I don't believe in mr. said I don't
believe in religion I don't believe in
spirituality but I believe in love and
if we could speak that language man
that's that's the universal language
love at the end of the day at the end of
the day man what else suck I want to
talk about this for a moment however I'm
important this is I'm just excited I got
this in for anybody who cares if we sit
watching on the if you watching on the
video somebody tell me what this isn't
in the chat I don't see if anybody knows
but I did get this in and I'll tell you
guys listening I'm holding up something
in front of me and I got it in and I'm
pretty excited about it it's really cool
it's like a relic it took a long time to
come in is that I'm opening up this for
people and there's a video
I don't know if y'all can hear that
pretty cool well if you don't know what
it is it's the new tool CD the
collector's edition and it's got a TV
built into the CD case which is very
cool
bunch of beautiful artwork I got that in
that's really cool I want to show that
off thought it was dope go and see them
again I think in February there was a
meme I saw a meme online and so and I
shared it out I said I'm a there's this
whole meme about I'm gonna tell my kids
this is this i'ma tell my kids this was
whoever and it was won a tool me and
they said I'm gonna tell my kids this is
church and it was a tool concert I was
like pretty much it's about right also
want to let you guys know that we are
doing the men's retreat in April we have
that scheduled as well selling tickets
for that if anybody would like to come
and take a trip into the forest and get
in touch with nature get in touch with
God with us we're doing a men's retreat
my wife is hosting a woman's retreat as
well she still has seats open for her a
january date which I believe is January
the 18th I believe it is but you can go
to you can just contact one of us online
I will send you the link I keep
forgetting the website we've got our
whole website up and all that kind of
stuff but I keep forgetting it but if
you want to go to a retreat woman's
street men's retreat whatever it is hit
me up we'll send you the information on
that we got a bunch of people coming
from all over so it's gonna be good
let me jump into some of these questions
here for a few minutes
everybody's guessing what that is
aluminous says I need that oh yeah I see
let's see let's see
every good song by toll was made by
Donald Marshall including Judas hmm I
don't know about that
kind of blowing my mind with that sir I
don't know what that is see a writer
don't know um its seat I'm gonna tell my
kid that's an eight-track you don't know
how idea how big of a whistleblower he
is interesting Christie says January
25th or 18th maybe I'm off I don't know
maybe it's the 25th Christie I have to
see so padawan I know you and I've seen
this question you've asked us several
times have you ever heard of the psychic
John Edward yeah I know you've asked
that for a couple of days oops I'm just
now getting to it Wow now that's crazy
this old Donald Marshall thing full time
geek says Donald Marshall was an
Illuminati slave and he was forced to
make songs at the cloning centers and
and he said every good song by tool was
made by him that's a strange strange it
goes deep right goes deep okay so I'm
being corrected here the chat comments
they always correct stuff I'm being
corrected the the women's retreat is the
25th of January for those of you were
trying to go Christy focuses already has
her ticket and she corrected me in the
chat that's where so full-time geek also
says that he is dirt poor even though he
has made more songs than anyone in
history he has been used for his skills
and ideas so I'm assuming if he wrote
those songs he would be in the credits
right he would be in the song song
credits I don't see anything online when
I type in his name and tool very
interesting
Xavier says I hope to be buying my
ticket soon to retreat in April brother
and that's what's up man
look forward to finally meeting you I
wish I would have met you last time I
want to tell your story say yes enough I
can tell your story but I want to tell
it so just say yes or no in the chat for
the for the concert that you wanted to
make Chris garner says I don't buy his
story I mean so here's the thing like
and let me ask you guys I mean opening
up the phone lines there's a there's
it's fun it's a lot of work on the back
end of like tying phone lines together
and opening switchboards and connecting
it so it's there's a lot more work in it
but I'm able to hear from you guys more
I'm able to hear other per you know
perceptions it this podcast is also a
form of learning when I have guests on I
just picked that brain so it's a form of
study and stuff so when you guys are
bringing all this stuff to the table
like I don't read or look into a lot of
new stuff and I've admitted that like
I'm just trying to articulate a lot of
this old stuff that I've been studying
for years but when you guys come up with
some of this stuff it's really cool
because these names and these people I
don't I don't know who they are Donald
Marshall I mean this Angelli and you
know term and all of this stuff that
Richie brought I wrote this stuff down
Jerry Mars in ski like I'm gonna look
these people up because it sounds very
interesting so the whole aspect to
learning and making this more of a
community forum and people calling in
with questions and stuff like that I
think we're gonna keep it up thing I'm
gonna keep doing it and I usually have a
guest here with us but um I think I'm
gonna keep it up okay so Chris garner
says I can find him by adding cloning to
his name so let me do that
what about what tool though see that's
this whole thing like cuz I kind of got
a I try to work through some of these
people you guys know I don't like just
have anybody on like I really like I
want to make sure they're legit there's
people who I turned down who want to
on the podcast every day I try to work
through him like my buddy was like
sending me all these time travelers
these time travelers he wanted me to
have one the podcast he's like I mean I
think the biggest part of us that makes
us want to look into this stuff is the
fact that we want it to be true
like deep inside we want this guy to
really be a time traveler maybe deep
inside you want Donald Marshall to be a
to be a clone and writing songs for tool
I don't know like deep inside part of us
wants this stuff and so we start
researching it and watching videos and
studying it until we find enough
information that helps us come to an
understanding on it and it becomes real
to us and but I get some of this stuff
and from me some of its way far out and
I'm not into it I'm not into the star
travelers star jumpers so you know to
say I'm not into the time travelers but
a lot of you guys are and in conspiracy
stuff is big I'm just haven't been into
it a lot I find that like a lot of the
conspiracies that you follow most of
them are false now there's a lot of them
that's true don't get me wrong
you gotta sound like a crazy person and
rooting and ranting for the longest time
but a lot of stuff does come out to be
true so for me like the the star
travelers or the time travelers and
stuff it's like this holes in their
stories there you know but he's like if
you have them on you you'll get a lot of
users like man I don't want those views
I don't want those views full-time geek
sets edge of wonder are good dudes yeah
let's see Javier says either I don't
remember the convo it wasn't me oh wow
okay I thought it was you bro maybe it
was someone else well there was a guy I
thought it was you
just say yes or no maybe it wasn't
anyway
connecting with with me in these events
and stuff so for my album released last
year I think it's been last year's a
long time ago wild toms lion I put out
my album sear I can't remember he it was
last year for sure I'll put out the
album's sear and I did a album release
party that was at a house so we did a
house party concert but we opened it up
for everybody and was promoting it on
the podcast and it was a my first album
in in three years so I worked really
hard on it and wanted to do a nice event
so we put this a house party on and sold
tickets online and I was blown away
because people traveled from everywhere
like the average like the average was
like eight out of eight hour drive for
people to be here and it was people who
had been listening to the podcast for a
couple years now and tuned in and in
patreon and dealing with our Thursday
night school of the Mystics and these
people just drove from all over like I'm
in Alabama we have people driving from
Houston Dallas we have people driving
from Tennessee Orlando North Carolina
like all these people just coming in and
like it blew me away but I thought it
was you maybe it's a different guy and
maybe it's a different Xavier but there
was one guy who got the dates mixed up
and he drove I think it was from Dallas
or Houston Houston I think it was like
12 hours he did a 12-hour Drive on the
wrong day it was the day after and he
went to the how the the address to the
venue and he pulled up and nobody was
there and he got up and he nobody came
to the door and he drove 12 hours to the
concert and came on the wrong day and
they said he it was him and his wife he
said that his wife was upset and he was
like man I kind of mess of fudge this
one up kind of blew it so I said even
they went and got a hotel and just got a
went and got a bottle and just sat in
the parking lot drinking and made the
best of it he had a little retreat with
him and his wife nobody said he learned
a lot about planning and writing stuff
down and making sure that like plans are
legit and things like that I thought it
was you maybe it was somebody else but
um
I thought that was interesting because
if the person would have contacted me
through Facebook or patreon or wherever
like I'm pretty sure I would have
responded and we will have like
everybody who was in town we were at a
huge bonfire at my house and he still
could have got up but he was at the at
the hotel sulking cooling with the wife
it was meant to be but hey we're doing
another one we got these retreats lined
up I'm about ready for another concert I
haven't I haven't done any concerts
lately I'm about ready to do something
want to plan it right we could do the
house parties it's kind of like the easy
way for us to do it because we don't
have to pay for a venue and we can use
our own sound systems and equipment and
things like that our own light show like
me and a couple other brothers Justin we
could put our own thing together and and
it'd be cool and and in the cool things
about house parties are smaller smaller
venues is that you don't have to have a
lot of people to pack it out there was
the old blue song rhythm and blues song
it says the smaller the club the bigger
the party because you got because we
used to rent venues all the time and if
you rent a big everybody wanted to play
at the big venue with the big stage and
the lights and all a huge stadium
seating and everybody wanted to play
there but you got to pack it out like
you got it you got to really really pack
that out and if you if you don't then
it's gonna look like nobody's there even
if you have a lot of people at a stadium
they're spread out we will book these
big venues and stuff but the better the
best ones were these little coffee shops
or house shows which man we've had so
many house shows back and we used to do
house shows here and just people
shoulder-to-shoulder in the entire house
awesome we'd get there and we I was in a
metal band we'd play and then I would
wrap in stuff too and it'd be just
hundreds of kids man and getting it back
to the smaller house hoes man just to
set up and do it and they're fun so I
may set something like that up if you're
interested in
and I mean how sing one of these right
you want to get me out I get some of the
guys out will come out and do a house
show you can get a crowd there man we'll
make it happen whatever we're just
brainstorming we're doing it together
hit me up let me know if you would like
to come see me in concert and do some
more music I haven't been focusing on a
lot of music lately I've had I'm working
on some courses I'm been working on the
book you know all this kind of stuff so
trying to get the podcasts down and
getting getting it out there to more
people and stuff like that so that
consumes a lot of time so I haven't
really been working on a lot of music
but I'm getting the bug I'm getting the
music bug again and I'm wanting to do
another show so it is what it is Xavier
says okay Xavier says he says no that
wasn't him in the story but it sounds
like something that he would do he said
this is Xavier from Georgia for sure go
dogs yeah a hundred days at a time says
I've done a few retreats and they're
really transformational this was up I'm
down for the bonfire for sure though
home sauce trying to do a track with you
or hook you up with my dude doobie and
do a song with him for sure Richie says
yeah I'm down for the music working on a
venue out here for potential health for
sure man
yeah let me know and we'll make it
happen I haven't done you know most
people know me from from the music I got
to make sure I continue to work on and
continue to to focus on it right I'm
just I know I have a huge back catalog
of music and videos that were like I go
back and listen to them now and I'm just
taken back and I'm just still trying to
find ways to to get that stuff out there
to people you know what I'm saying
I'm trying to find ways to get the music
out to people who haven't heard it yet
because there's so much out there and
like a back catalogue of stuff that I
kind of need help getting it out there
so and then music is changing so much as
well like the way people consume music
YouTube's algorithms will work on a
video and spend hundreds of dollars on
it and then seven you know seven hundred
people will see it versus like my other
videos that would get
like you know 20,000 streams in a month
on YouTube and stuff like I don't know
it's just not a lot of it you can't even
search like you search the song and
video by name and it will not come up I
have to go through my library and scroll
and find it if I want to share it
Google won't pull it up I don't know if
they down rank it I know I did some tags
stuffing back in the day I was able to
get a lot of organic traffic that way
but I know Google frowns on that now
like I would put david icke mysticism
Manley P Hall Jordan Maxwell like all of
that would be in the description it
would say like for fans of or people you
know and I would get organic traffic
that way but I think I know that they
frown on that so maybe there were
updates and that doesn't work anymore I
don't know I don't know so trying to
figure out ways like you got to spend
money just to get eyes on your stuff and
buy ad revenue and I mean by ad
promotions and organic traffic that you
already have to social media you still
have to pay for people to see it or they
won't see it try to like spend money
make the video and then have a budget to
promote it to get it out there not to
new people
I can understand getting your stuff out
to new people and paying for that but
you actually have to pay for you're
already listeners and fans to hear it
now that's just crazy so I guess that's
where email list comes in at this point
I can still send it out aluminous says
your music is my meditation when I'm
dealing with the public online for sure
for sure hundred day says Instagram I do
Instagram it just doesn't really pop for
me
I don't know I'm too old I can't do
stories man I've tried to do stories and
it just doesn't work the Instagram
stories or Facebook stories and I know
they say like that gets more traction
than an actual post and I don't even do
it
Xavier says then there's a song for
everybody man that's what I love about
your artistic diversity for sure
definitely I mean if I've done 200 200
songs at this point it should be a song
for everybody
and it
it uh it lends to the diversity of us my
spiritual progress as well just you know
from being a Christian artist talking
about shooting demons with guns and the
devil wants to fight me and like
literally like in 2006 I put out an
album and that was the content matter
the devil don't want none of this what's
happening like it was getting gangsta
Christian rap and to now where it's
transformed into going through some rap
rock metal stuff that I did which was
different for the time and into more
aggressive political stuff and in going
into more the spiritual enlightenment
aggressive but then being more laid back
and meditative type hip-hop music as
well that I've been working on so
there's definitely something for
everybody so let's see I found four
that's a hundred days says uh I found
cool stuff on Instagram and I'm oldest
try give it a try for a week like I'm on
it I just maybe I should just do a week
of stories and see if there's any
engagement I don't know okay and uh
Chris garnet says so y'all go to true
sigue calm and get you an album that way
you all got the time you got it all the
time for sure
and I need to archive my videos better
cuz like I said I put a lot of work in
them videos man some crazy stuff and
that's why again just getting back to
that's while a lot of people listen to
the podcast that's why a lot of people
are subscribed to the channel it's
because of the music so but I want to
make sure like you know the like you've
seen the freaking catalog and I think
most have I guess I don't know if you're
here but there's a freaking back catalog
from like 2012 man aluminous says I love
that og Christian rap I need more of
that
lol no no no no no you don't it's
hilarious it's hilarious
gangsta Christian rap that cracked me up
it does it's funny I laugh at it and it
was good for its time though man mm in
2006 I mean I was working on in 2003 and
four you know those and then
you know it's funny that when you think
about it at this point but then it was
relevant to a lot of who I was and you
know all that kind of stuff but hey it's
out there too
it's cause an album called fight music
true seeker fighting years ago listen to
it it's all on Spotify I don't think
it's on its it should be everywhere I'm
having problems with iTunes pulled one
of my albums I don't know why I didn't
even tell me
going through my a Grenadier which a CD
baby told them that hey my albums done
on iTunes anymore you're the ones who's
supposed to upload it like what's the
deal and they won't even tell me I won't
even respond and they get a cut off of
every album sold and all that kind of
stuff and it's like man it's getting
tricky doing it by yourself I guess I
need a manager and a publicist right hit
me up publicist managers I'm talking to
a few I am be cool they're gonna try to
help get the book out just some bigger
places and when you guys are gonna see
me on on a Joe Rogan is what a some
people want me to be on but I'm gonna be
on coast to coast mark my words I'm
gonna be on coast to coast hey I'm
talking about this book and the contents
thereof it's a good book man it is
available on our own Kindle now if you
go to the the Amazon it's available
their own Kindle so all of you who and
it's so funny people are just waiting on
their version to come out they were like
I don't want to I don't want the salt
soft cover I want the Kindle and then
other people want the audiobooks and I
got to make the audiobook but a friend
of mine told me who just who did an
audiobook he said don't
he said I'm never doing an audiobook
again
so because it's hard work Javier says
here was the first album I heard and it
was fire but then colors came out I was
like oh these are the all bangers for
sure but I mean most people will
probably say my best work was 333 so
hopefully you kind of went backward and
2 and checked out some of the older
stuff
spiritual alchemy awaken the fire all of
that stuff again Padawan says I like the
purple one you use on the cover and in
your room there for sure
spiritual alchemy was at that purple
color
I had a friend I'm not gonna say his
name oh my god I'm reading these
comments here I had a friend who like
looked at my color scheme and all of
this stuff and he said I stole it from
him
he doesn't even have a podcast he said
he said if he did a podcast it would be
this color and if he did a video stream
it would be this color in that
everything that I'm doing that I took
the idea from him that's crazy
purple for some reason purple and blues
have been like the color and this
probably wound up because of one of the
first websites that I saw it was like a
Wayne Dyer web website that had like
purple and blue stars and stuff like
that
and I've always just kind of went with
those colors and they all just kind of
stand out to me um for me too they
represent that I don't know purple and
blue have just been those colors and in
green with the green light beings Wow
Santiago says just tuning in that book
reminds me of Manley P Hall book secret
teachings definitely of a smaller
version right definitely I'm definitely
you know I'm a huge Manley P Hall fan
I'm thinking about like I've been
thinking about this but to do another
podcast or just have content or just a
live stream whatever but just kind of
reading through some of Manley P Hall
stuff and breaking it down just because
a lot of that stuff is lost to this
generation you know a lot people don't
even read anymore
trying to get some of that info out but
I think that a lot of its a lot of that
in folks come out through my mom music
and through sampling using his lectures
and my music and stuff as well
aluminous is my boys and Kali asked me a
lot of questions about you your music is
waking up some of these guys it's so
funny somebody who told me yesterday
they hit me up and said that they they
heard my music on a playlist in the gym
some I was listening to it in a gym on a
playlist working out to it and he heard
he was that you know became a fan home
saw says spiritual alchemy is my
personal favorite yeah you know what
part of creating in and I've been open
with this but part of creating is like I
don't think I can top my last album like
I never can't ever think that I can top
it
meter beat it's the name of the game
but it's hard like if you set the bar so
high like I can't just like snap
butterfingers put that stuff out you
know it's a lot of work it's a lot of
energy there's a lot of alchemy there's
a lot of studying like there's a lot of
listening for sample there's so much
stuff that goes into that it's a it's a
fear of mine that I can't do it but when
I try I think I do
like I have that fear that notion that I
there's no way I'm gonna I'm gonna over
I'm gonna perform this but it's like if
I can meet it I'm good if I can hit that
quality and maybe do a continuation
almost so that's always the fear but
when I try I do though like there's some
newer stuff that I've put out recently
with Lok sing like some of that stuff
was dope on the on the ESP EP which was
only a couple new songs on there but uh
but I think that I've kind of been able
to meet or beat it right some people
will say even beat it like this I've got
so many comments on some of the new
stuff saying hey this is your best your
best work yet and it's stuff that just
came out but make sure you hit the bat
catalog for sure not just the music but
the videos too like there are a bunch
you may just have to scroll through my
channel and there's like a lot of videos
but the early stuff man it was
passionate there was a lot a lot of
stuff going on in the heavenlies during
those albums
reading the chat here before I in the
episode all creators feel that way is
what a hundred a says they all feel that
way oh I can't do better I don't have it
in me it's gonna suck nobody's gonna
take all creators for that way yeah yeah
I'm with you I think they do I think
it's a good I think it's good though
it's healthy and makes sure that that
you're gonna meet meet or beat right
you're not gonna never want to put out
something that's lesser quality than
what I've already done that's a step
backward Nautilus hope says OD DTV has
woke music just saying for sure I did an
interview with Oh DD well he was on my
podcast telling me interview me I'm
gonna go on his channel yeah he's cool
man definitely with the conspiracy woke
stuff I love what he's doing his videos
are awesome for sure
okay so Santiago says D some traveling
live podcasts would be dope man yeah I'm
dude I need to relocate you you might go
to god man you set it up bro I need to
relocate or get y'all to come to Alabama
something but uh cuz the life podcast
was fun when I did that with you a lot
of people want to come here and do it
and I just don't
I rather them not be here I didn't want
to be in studio with me sitting beside
me it's very awkward to do a live
podcast sitting beside in recording I
just don't like it and um my friends
locally let me come the studio I'm doing
no just do it at your house and just
pull your phone out and let's do do a
legit one over the phone just I just
it's awkward it's fun I just feel it
just feels weird I don't know maybe on
camera cuz we're looking silent it's sex
I don't know I've done a couple you know
of those podcasts in the back to back in
the day um
well Christy says new lows blokes ain't
songs no do ones we yeah the ones we did
offer messengers which were on well
there were some new ones too I mean
voices which Tessa that's a dope song
voices
on ESP Santiago come to the Christmas
party yeah bro
I'll come everyone's coming padawan I've
been trying to spread true secret in San
Jose amongst my friends they aren't
taking the bait though that's what's up
it's one of those things where it's one
of those things where it kind of finds
people when they need it like he can't
force somebody to like it like I mean I
was like that way lcib I was trying to
make all my friends listen and lost
shift in a Babylon they weren't they
weren't buying it they were into the
gangster Christian rap they went into
the metaphysical stuff they went into
the then but I loved it I made them
listen to it
Oprah didn't die for your sins awakened
the fire for sure I don't know if I
still had that shirt I think I gave it
away in a giveaway a couple years ago
uh-huh
yeah Santiago so I guess everybody we're
having a Christmas party we have one
every year they get bigger and bigger
every year we do dirty Santa and have
fun and have a couple drinks and kick it
and we slam packed last year was crazy
but yeah the infos them on on my page
there's an event I'll share it out again
but yeah I got a lot of people travel I
know Christie's come in she's traveling
who else is coming um flume ins coming
Ali's coming chris is coming Nicole is
coming everyone's coming everyone is too
aggressive
Santiago get what true sick about the
party for sure LCL be America's for sure
all right y'all I'm done I'm reading
comments I'll stay here all day reading
your comments thank you guys for the
support thank you guys for hanging out
phone lines were fun everyone calling in
was a lot of fun you know and I love
hearing from you guys and hearing your
stories and seeing what you guys have to
add to the conversation it's one thing
to do it in chat but it's another thing
to kind of hear your voice in the
inflection of your voice and those kind
of things as well
I just I'm just I'm part of me scared
because I need a call screener because
you get the Screamers who call they call
in and you start screaming or they call
in and just start cursing because we're
streaming on so many platforms right now
and we're streaming on Twitch and that's
what the trolls live
on Twitch and sometimes YouTube but yeah
I'm scared that they're gonna call in
and start cursing they do it and I have
to deal with the Karma because I used to
do it you know at least make it a good
prank call don't call in and start
cursing just call in him and like make
up a store it's do something man just
don't be cursing like that it's it's not
cool man I'll give out your phone number
in the air and get all all the trolls to
call you so with that I'm gonna say
peace and Shalom one last look
just one last glimpse at the chat here
everyone says peace out I have a good
one true seeking a great chat research
Donald Marshall must love okay I got a
bunch of stuff to to research now and
and I'll say thank you for that guy's
giving me this new information because I
I don't watch a lot of stuff anymore
look up random people so thank you guys
for that yeah with them say peace and
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