Dr.Jess Tregle is an energy healer who teaches classes on meditation and leads people into inner child healing. There are many ways that we can experience healing and Jess believes that different approaches to healing therapy may work depending on and individuals own faith or belief. Jess recently released her book entitled Heal Your Spirit, Empower Your Life.
Meditation has many benefits and we can say for sure that there is no one correct way of practicing meditation. Some like to empty out their minds and other enjoy guided meditations with someone leading them with a soothing voice describing an enchanted walk through a forest or a journey along the seashore. Some use meditation just as a practice of mindfulness and just finding their center to bring life into perspective and not left the worries of the day run their life. Other use meditation to try and contact their guardian angels, God, their higher self as well as interdimensional beings. With that being said just know that there is not one particular right way to meditate. However the power lies within the stillness and bringing your awareness into the NOW moment. The NOW moment is where goal are set and gamplans are made to bring about manifestation into our lives. It is an attention shift, switching the knob off of autopilot and into intentional living. This is the power of meditation and its principles are universal regardless of race or creed. Many of the Holy books such as the Bible and Bhagavad Gita speak about practicing meditation and actually achieving higher states of consciousness such as trance states. Many enter this state accompanied with chanting, music and holotropic breathing techniques to bring the body and mind into unison and into a more relaxed state.
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Power In Silence | Meditation Techniques and Practices | Jess Tregle YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jMtHGTXPqc Transcript source: YouTube captions truth-seeker and/or its affiliates are not responsible for any strange phenomena that may occur during or after listening to this podcast which may include the following heightened senses of awareness psychic abilities UFO sightings alien contact time loss out-of-body experiences ringing in the ears ESP lucid dreaming increasing chronicity astral projection telepathy stronger intuition levitation miraculous healings and/or remote viewing please be advised to listen enjoy indecision won't you you are down locked into the two seeker podcast live at UC comm esoteric and all being spiritual and now ladies and gentlemen how's it going I'm your host true seeker and this is the true seeker podcast that was your disclaimer that was your warning at the very beginning the intro if you don't want to hear about those topics that were 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people we can name illuminate I've talked to you know Brian Trejo as far as in the Christian hip-hop community these are some of the biggest guys doing it they've been on the show kind of kind of sharing their their testimony and I kind of come from that background right I used to do Christian hip-hop so I like to reach out to those guys from time to time and see what they're doing and uh you know just had this conversation I'm still a believer at heart so I like to kind of you know talk to people of all faiths and stuff so anyway as seven is a big name I get a lot of views on that episode because he's got a huge following a lot of people check out the true seeker podcast that I did with seven and and then they check out other episodes they like that one and they check out other ones and so somebody hit seven up one of his followers in which he told me it was a baby Christian as what it was called just a baby Christian hit him up and set and wanted to know should he go out and buy a deck of tarot cards to talk to God because he heard a interview that I did and I talked about my experience with the tarot deck that I have it's called the terror of the Most High it's a Christian theme tarot deck and I talked about using these for the first time but how powerful it was for me and I've done a couple readings with them never talked about using those to talk to God but seven called me up as a brother as a concerned brother you know checking me or whatever and say hey we are followers are now listening to your music and listening to your podcast and you're talking about tarot cards what's the deal so I kind of talked to seven a good bit and he was kind of like warning me and stuff which any and I guess any Christian should do if you're if you don't really know much on the subject so I ended up being able to kind of break it down to hear my standpoint on using what essentially is called divination within the Scriptures in a good light when the Bible talks about the casting of lots and uh and and in the scripture talks about that every lot is decided by the Lord that every every straw that is drawn every every what we would call a divination in in the West was something I would and we look at us something evil or something that is not to be tampered with this was something that the prophets in in the Bible in the the mystics and the disciples they all used a form of divination as which is talked talking to God so I was able to break it down to seven and essentially won him over with that but I think because because I was able to prove it in the Bible most people know that if you're dealing with Christians if you're dealing with church people it's okay like if you can prove it in the Bible then they're okay with it right so I I showed them that kind of stuff in there and but then I did tell them I said look there's gonna be other stuff that you hear me talking about that I can't really back up especially when it comes to psychedelics or something like that you know what I'm saying but it was a good conversation and I'm glad he came to me with with that so anyway if you're in if you don't want to hear anything about this mysticism esoteric and knowledge and the things that we talk about here just now would be a good time to turn back but if you do welcome to the family welcome to the fold and we're glad to have you guys here quick shout out to the all the patrons everybody supported my work on patreon.com you guys mean the world to me there's free not free because I guess you have to pay for it it's a membership but there's exclusive music over there at patreon you get access to my entire discography all the new music that I'm working on all of that stuff extra podcast all that stuff is available for you guys who are supporting my work they're about to come out with a new album entitled seer I'm almost done with that I'm literally waiting on two features to come back for one song you know and that album is a wrap but most of its available there now if you head on over to patreon.com backslash true seeker you guys can check out all the new work that I have over there by becoming a patron you guys know that this show is free to consume it's not free to produce you know each and every person who is signing up anywhere from $1 $5 $10 a month whatever you can do you guys are you guys mean the world to me so quick shout out to the newest patrons who joined the family we have Brandon Berber Thomas sadoski Genesis Gazzara Christie folks all of you guys have been checking me out for a while and now you finally join the family there at patreon thank you guys from the bottom of my heart you guys mean the world to me so with that being said we got an awesome show plan for you guys today a good friend of mine is joining me here from New Orleans Metairie area you know what part do you live Jess what's going on in the New Orleans area New Orleans I you got to claim it right I name I call all that New Orleans like I've always great the tree you know yeah all of its New Orleans to me like as soon as as soon as you cross the bridge you know they headed over to the West Bank oh that's New Orleans I grew up over there so okay I know that that's cool welcome to the show my friend how you been doing appreciate it I've been doing great thank you for inviting me back it's it's awesome of the show that you have going on yeah definitely thank you thank you for the work that you're doing too is a lot to uh to talk about it's not to be thankful for right now you're someone who's who's stood the test of time and many ways you've been doing this for a while we connected some years ago now I don't know how long ago it was time just I I don't really I'm not good with time anymore like like as far as like trying to measure years and stuff it's you know it kind of just seems like yesterday man but when you see pictures and like Facebook reminders that you posted this a year ago and things like that you know you kind of you kind of are brought back to the reality that we we do measure time and space but me and you connected some some years ago now is probably I want to say four years ago is that maybe we connected a couple years ago we've talked about this on other sessions and podcasts that we've done together but you mean a lot to me because me and and my buddy drew and crispy we were wanting to do like a little guys weekend out and we went to we were gonna plan a weekend trip to New Orleans to go try the float tank over there with Spencer he's got a sensory deprivation tank and we were gonna I was going to try to the cyber mushrooms for the first time in in the flow tank and uh but we wanted to kind of make it something to remember not just to go over and do that we wanted to you know we had we was gonna have some more time there so it was like let's look up somebody who does energy healing work so I got in Google and started looking up all these people I called a few and one of the people that I called was dr. Jess and she told us what what she does and she essentially we booked a session with her and she did like a group session of guided meditation and energy healing and in a Reiki and it was so beautiful that when when we got there just kind of like was the whole welcoming experience into the city and in our trip to go spend some time with you and that and that guided meditation was awesome and then that whole weekend you know we went to the flow tank we spent the night there I'm good friends with Spencer had an amazing encounter partly like the big the big thing for me was like um saying the energy that that uh you shared with us and you're doing this for a living you're you're you're not just getting by you're thriving and you're doing what you were put here to do you're doing what you love for a living that right there is up it's envious you know what I'm saying because there's so many people stuck in dead-end jobs and and they don't like the place that that they're in right now they they want to do what they love for a living and meeting you and then going on this deep psychedelic adventure there was just longing within me like I want to be a healer I don't know what it is I don't know what it looks like I know I've seen dr. Jessica what she's doing I want to be a healer in this whole time on this experience you're connected with God you're connected with source and the energy says back to me you already are a healer like there's no I don't want to be a healer you're not one day going to be a healer they'd seen the reason you're feeling this because it's already within you so seeing you doing that and and and being all my psychedelic journey and and receiving from God receiving from source those next few weeks after that it was just burning hunger and cessation within me to do it and I stepped out in faith and I started making myself available and I had a ton of appointments with people and people were booking me for private sessions like that quick just a few weeks or something that seemed so far out of left field that I could never attain it or is something that that would be years from now within a few weeks I was doing my own sessions and people was commissioning me for it for private sessions but got it healing Reiki all types of stuff and it's it's crazy when we talk about the power of manifestation and meditation and so that's all I wanted to get you back on the show to kind of talk about this stuff but um maybe you can set the groundwork a little bit - just like the kind of session that we purchased for you whenever we can't we came in into the city I don't know if you want to talk about that a little bit yeah we could touch on it yeah back in the day I feel like you were just like how you say like a buddy kind of like hang out and just seeing what would serve everyone at one time kind of get everyone in so I like to really improv it's like it's like music it's literally feeling okay what what are you hungry for what are y'all open to here what are y'all open to receive etc so he did a guided meditation touching on customizing on all that you need it I'll let you want in that moment and that everyone else at the time needed as a group as individuals as well so that way everyone gets the benefit from it it was beautiful too and it's awesome because one of the guys who was with us um he was uh he was going through a lot of stuff and we took a picture crossing the bridge in the car like okay we're on our journey headed to New Orleans and he looked like he was half asleep he looked hungover he looked very bad but then after the session he felt refreshed he felt renewed he felt like he connected with God he connected with source so I believe that that's partly what you're doing right you're kind of like the mediator you're connecting with God I think that your connection with source is is what is what kind of facilitates at all and you being able just to be used as a vessel so would you say would you agree with that you're connecting with the quick with a source energy and just being a conduit for the power yeah absolutely I'm comfortable saying god I know and everyone's so different or some people like to say universe some people is just yeah it's kind of like big old spectrum and whatever that resonates with you is perfect you know I'm totally a team player but yeah I'm definitely an open channel I like to really feel I do energy healing so I'm feeling I don't touch the physical body but I could sense where there's blockages and nowadays like save the hearts block for example either there's anger sadness frustration something there that's you know blocking up the heart and now I could feel what it is and I could feel overtime I absolutely God what does this soul need to hear right now you know but this exact blockage what do they need to hear right now to release it and nowadays I just easily flows through I don't have to ask so it's like when you're receiving energy healing you're hearing what you need to hear were you being craving here if it's starving for it and it's like hitting the right button at the right time you can feel things shifted a shifting and opening and yeah it's a great release for sure definitely an open channel like you said there are certain people who talk about energy healing or Reiki or or whatever and and and they or channeling or contacting angels or whatever the spectrum is and so they talk about this like they're the ones who have received the knowledge or there's the contact either the one endued with power from on high tide or almost like a Messiah Complex or Messiah um figure but you actually teach classes how anybody is if they if they feel drawn to this if they feel led to this type of work you actually teach people how to sense energy how to move it around and to release it and not to hold it within themselves but to do the energy work and then to release it as well talk a little bit about how if it's uh if it's an inward calling it's for you in anyone can actually get into this yeah absolutely I feel that once again there's so much diversity here on this planet so if you feel pull to help other people and that's what I wanted to do since I was a little I knew I wanted to help other people but I didn't know how and then it came across energy healings into energy healing classes you learn how to clear the chakras balance the body the aura cleansing and different tricks like cord cutting clearing of the mind grounding distant healing even so yeah it's like it can be textbook but it's also a gift at the same time and if you're cool to it like how you mentioned I want to be a healer I want to be a healer oh wait a second I am a healer let me go ahead and claim it it's literally if you feel pull to learn any kind of modality any kind of a style of healing it's like art and if you feel bold you already are a healer it's just letting yourself bloom even more with it yep and it's it's not projecting your consciousness outside of your body of this one day I'm gonna do this or one day I'm gonna do that but just knowing that you already are and those things are within you for a reason it's already there you just have to kind of whether it's getting into confess dealing with the manifestation and there's different principles as different techniques that we can do to actually bring that stuff out of us and and kind of using wisdom and learning the you know the tricks of the trade what to do what not to do not just to kind of run at something like this yeah headfirst but actually do the homework as well and do the spiritual work you know mm-hmm and something - I know aromatherapy is really big I love it but something that I learned is to like say when you're sharing energy healing with you know a friend a loved one it may be a new friend you know completely stranger coming through the door it's best to be know like cologne or perfume know fragrances really and I know aromatherapy has its thing but it's like I haven't I love it for personal use but I haven't really been inclined to do it for other people but I learned it being neutral because it can trigger like say the gentleman who taught me how like this aftershave on and it triggered this young lady with a sexual abuse memory you know yes it was like a bad trigger so yeah there's a lot of do's and don'ts for sure like another example is to stay in the room because until you're finished because some people might have abandonment issues and you leave to go change they see or something you know they could feel that absence and it doesn't help them interesting talking about we've been talking about smell a little bit here lately - as far as like people who are dealing with like demonic presence and stuff like that when somebody's going through like a deliverance session of getting demons off of them or out of them or whatever sometimes it'll it'll it'll bring a stench with it it'll bring like a garbage smell or like a vomit smell or someone who's has a disease they'll get a real you know stench of like vomit and stuff like that as well and then on the other hand when someone is in like deep states of meditation or I don't know just like deep deep rums of prayer and worship and church services they'll start to smell honey and honeysuckles and like sweet flowers and things like that naturally like it just comes through like what wouldn't whenever you're tapped into the spirit realm which is something very interesting too and their interest I mean their smells to that I can smell now that rubbing me back to a place you know what I'm saying that it brings me back to my childhood something that I smelled and I know for me it sounds weird but smelling a rubber band my brings me back to my childhood when I first smelled that playing with some plastic toys or something but that smell brings you back to a certain place or obviously may be smelling someone you know using a pencil sharpener would bring you back to you know school and in those early days and stuff so everything was our senses is being used for the psychic purposes man and to it almost acts as a time machine I know there's music that can bring us back to certain places in our lives and trigger good memories or just like you say that it can trigger it could trigger bad memories as well mm-hmm thank you so when we're talking about doing healing sessions one-on-one sessions I know you do that you also do group group healing sessions you do group meditations and stuff like that I see some of your classes are getting really big you're you're you're you're doing one thing which I found is one of the biggest things that work with you're trying to achieve your dream or you're trying to build anything you're being consistent so I think consistency is key and I've definitely seen that with you but I talked a little bit about some of the sessions that you're doing where you bring all these people together in a public place and do these group healing sessions and like these group guided meditations I've talked a little bit about that yeah totally there's actually one coming up it's called the Mardi Gras detox you know right now tomorrow's actually Mara in New Orleans which is awesome and next today we're having a way to do self-care and detox from all the partying and things like that that goes with it so there's actually gonna be a guided meditation followed by an hour of yoga at Longview it's a very relaxed setting and it's a beautiful location and like the Spanish courtyard everything with water fountains just very extravagant of a feel so for the guided meditations actually guide you through it's a narration to where you can be seated you can be laying down you can bring a yoga mat we have some extras there and basically this is your own time even though we're all here together this is a way to check in with your own spirit your own soul feeling what your face is I like to keep it open because everyone has different faiths which is I feel is beautiful and the diversity is so expansive so profound that there's so many different perspectives and points of view so I'll guide you through something that I love is to feel yourself opening up unfolding clearing your space so you don't have to carry the heaviness around whatever the heaviness maybe for you clearing that off if it's off the shoulders off the back off the legs where we feel it so that way you can be free can feel your openness your peacefulness and just let your body and your whole being to breathe so it's as beautiful a lot of people come and it's like a birthday party all the time you know all these people are come in it's like what you know this is exciting you know got some nervous energy but a lot of excitement and happiness yes I just like a good mixture of feelings and so I think I think when we mentioned meditation it's it's almost like mentioning religion it means a lot of different things to different people so yeah I think I think I think one sense of meditation could just be emptying out your thoughts clearing your mind getting focused and things like that I don't I don't know if anybody has the you know the final say-so about what happens in those realms of meditation we're talking about astral projection we're talking about revisiting the past and healing childhood wounds in a form of meditation we're talking about remote viewing meeting angelic guides and past loved ones you know all of this dealing with unresolved issues like like what's what's I mean weird we start cuz like you know I think a lot of people they want to get into the deep stuff I think that as far as as far seeing your dreams and your visions that's part of it like getting that game plan for that you seen it in your mind's eye confessing it and going into deep rumble of meditation and I like to talk about talk about going into those realms and grabbing this stuff and bringing it out but if someone wants to connect with higher beings or whatever like do you do you talk about that at all I mean where did we start with something like that I feel like the beginning like the foundation the first step really is to let go letting go of any kind of emotional I would say baggage but it's heaviness you know emotional burdens whatever that's there so that way it's like a clean slate you have to start clean you know it makes it a lot easier and then we'll focus on calming the mind down and usually in meditation if you're beginning usually the mind is thinking thinking thinking thinking over and over about whatever about anything and I like to let it think let it do its thing at the beginning I see it as like this big water filter this funnel basically filled with water and all the thoughts need to dilute out so at the beginning the mind will be busy but eventually it'll filter out and then from there it's literally wherever you want to go it's like a it's kind of like there's big fork in the road with many different paths to take so it's like whatever you're feeling whatever you're feeling full too it's like whatever you're craving you know some people do want to address the you know inner child healing which I love doing this is something that I add to sessions but like say if you feel guided to strengthen your foundation my childhood was rocky that's why I love it you know I had a great brother quickly or I thought I did anyway I like to let this silliness add makes it more fun say with ostrich action I feel like with astral projection it's more of letting the mind relax going into a deep meditation at first relaxing even more deeply and it's like diving in and then uplifting it's like flying and just taking that jump and where you go where your intentions are you'll just go you'll be there and I like how you said you go and then grab you know this futuristic information and then bring it back that's really cool like that that way of viewing Gnaeus like a cartoon imagery it's like oh and take this over here and some of this stuff and yeah just bring it back that's awesome but yes once against whatever you want to do with it so what about so I'm talking about going in and grabbing that stuff bringing it out or or getting this information I mean it comes to in so many ways I think even a healing you know inner wounds or maybe a clearing up maybe some strife or grief that you had with someone who's passed on and maybe you encounter them in those realms and they give you a word or whatever but sometimes this information is slippery in those realms like there's so much going on some of it comes so fast there's like downloads of information that you receive and sometimes you wake up and you're overwhelmed like wow like what do I even it's hardly I don't know if I need to get a journal and try to write down what I can but even if you try to do that it's so slippery it's hard to cut to kind of comprehend it what do we do to kind of get better at that does it come with time like you're able to pull something out or you kind of kind of able to remember the interactions that you're having within those realms or or is it always just kind of slippery and it's just like just kind of tossed in the air you know I feel like it marries like I could totally understand like this slippery sensations of it because it sometimes is the speed of the download or the experience will be so fast like a world wind but it feels good at the same time very adrenaline rush kind of a feeling when you come back I feel like it's kind of like a dream but a lot lower because you're awake and aware and more so and like you have the intentions of meditating and having the experience that you're more aware of it so even though it's slippery on something that I love is like with these phones nowadays they have the audio recording something you could just spit out and you know just get it all out but even if you can't remember every little detail because sometimes it's hard to catch those like they slip out too easily too quick I feel like the wisdom the knowledge will stay with you like those seeds have been planted you know and even if they're not on the surface maybe they're a bit deeper which is okay eventually rise up and and you know you'll you'll remember or you'll have more of the discernment like okay this feels right for me you know kind of a thing but like the the world would affect it's interesting everyone has different experiences with connecting with loved ones that passed on touching on that real quick I have a dear friend that her her brother passed not too long ago and yeah she had a lot of like a very deep experience with that and it was slippery how you said I just coming fast and she was like whoa what the heck just happened when she came back you know just like almost like being taking on this tour of different things different visuals different experiences different ways of seeing and then when she came back she was just kind of not exhausted but kind of close to it yeah is this it's interesting that the type of information that you receive I like to kind of look at it like like if I'm connected with God which I believe I am I like to kind of set an intention of having a good experience but kind of I kind of do leave it open to God or to the Holy Spirit to lead me for for essentially what I need okay God what do you want to teach me what do you need to show me that maybe I've been too busy maybe I've had a lot of stuff on my plate and I've neglected this this this time of intimacy with my father with my Creator and to kind of get still go into the meditation empty out my mind as best I can forget about the bills forget about my plans this weekend the concert or whatever I try to keep pushing that stuff out push it push it push it out get into a deep state of meditation eventually I talk about seeing the light I don't know if you've had any experiences with the light that shows up some people say it's your third eye because it usually starts you know where the third eye chakra is and then you start seeing it flicker flicker flicker and then it for me it starts moving it starts like moving almost like a pendulum and I I see it as it's trying to help me go deeper into meditation almost like you're following the pendulum I try to keep my consciousness on it in my mind's eye kits just moving around and eventually I've heard people talk about you can actually go through that light or the lights to lead you or it evolves into something else but that's the way I start my meditations that's usually what happens eventually that light shows up whether it's the Holy Spirit you able to see it visually I don't know what you know theological background you come from you made everybody you know say it's something different but have you had any encounters with like the the lights and stuff like that when you're going to meditation yeah I see what you're saying like with sometimes like and it's like doing whatever needs to do it's almost like I I see it as in addition to connecting with your faith of course and clearing your visual and taking you deeper in addition I feel like it helps calm the brain calms the mind you know just prepares you for the next step of meditation you know and that level of meditation it's I'd like to see like almost like this nature trail you know it's like you're not the beginning of it when you get to that that light sensation it's like further down the path and then there's the path continues on you know it's like at the beginning of meditation usually people don't see much of anything usually it's just dark you know and people get frustrated but feeling like even when you see darkness you're still seeing something and even if you want to use your voice and guide yourself like okay let me focus on all the light even it was a little thick at first even if it's lighter shades like the gray so you know just focusing on that so that way more light will calm and like I said you know going through the light and even if you want to use your voice and meditation to and say like okay let me go ahead and receive the light whatever in this light that I'm saying let me go ahead and let it shine on me and feeling that sensation but yeah the light is pretty cool it's just like different colors can happen different visuals different experiences different connections way of perception of different things you know just really enhances your faith in your life what have you ever had like an encounter where you're focusing on the light or you're trying to leave your body I know there's like a seats of light meditation that we do just seeing all the chakras spinning and lighting up and once you get to the crown chakra trying to project your consciousness out of your body that's very scary when you feel that that final sensation and I usually snap back to my body's immature of the time because they're so overwhelming have you have you ever got in deep and uh make you know maybe some of the early years or the first time doing it and you're like just you're just mind-blowing like wow this I mean there's something to it it's beyond my imagination whether it's connecting with beings with it whether it's seeing information or just your body tingling or feeling the energy for days on end like what are some of the times that are I think early on that have kind of like been these these are pivotal experiences for you in meditation yeah totally at the very beginning when I was first learning meditation this was maybe back in 2009 around that time period I was like what are these people doing like seen pictures of people meditating on Facebook like what's what's the good of that you know they're just sitting still I get it you know doesn't make any sense like like that so cool right now but uh just to check it out okay let me just sit down I had like a journal next to me so I could take notes that whatever happened and so this was at the very beginning I used to meditate every day for about 30-40 minutes just because I was so hungry for so you know just intrigued at the same time so wrote notes at the beginning you know slow the mine was thinking and I was thinking that eventually like it's almost like this the visual field instead of the forehead region it just enhances to where the whole you could see all around you and there's one point as soon as I close my eyes I was already in this other dimension and in the background it's almost like a different like the different dimension different world literally and in the background I saw like these these light beings I had no idea who they were but I felt I felt comfortable I felt people and they were kind of like doing their thing whatever they had to do you know I'm not sure but I just felt very safe and then just your connection with God whatever you resonate with with your faith it's just like that unity you actually feel and actually you know it's like breathing within you is so cool yeah it's it's just it's way to upgrade I call it like charging your spirit your soul just like we do charging up her cell phone or something it's a way to plug in our own self yeah that's good they talk about it like um in charge to talk about you know getting filled up with God getting filled up with the Holy Spirit because we go out and we just would just kind of pour out into people and we pour we you know we pour out into the world and then there's things that happen and so we have to go back and get recharged that get refilled up we had to get our cups you know filled up until it's overflowing and then so we can we can we can receive the energy and kind of and kind of go out and and actually be sent and in the Bible it calls it uh it says be being filled with the Holy Spirit so like a continual thing not just okay you had this one encounter go tell your stories like no it's just continual thing and it was so easy for us to kind of reminisce like you know even as you're talking about the light being I remember having you know an encounter in meditation in my house and seeing one of the light beams like you're saying it's like a silhouette of green energy it looks like a person and it walks up staring at me and then I can feel it scan in my body and I've had a lot of awesome encounters that I it's hard to explain and they've you know all those encounters have sent me here to where I am today but it's so easy especially I do a podcast and I do a music about these encounters too when you're like okay I need to create some more let's don't list live off the back of yesterday's successes or what we used to do or whatever but to continue it and and and have those times in meditation have those times in yoga and stuff like that and it's so easy just to kind of revisit the past whatever verses making you know this connection owner on like a daily basis or a daily journey you know absolutely yeah and just keeping that book open you know it's like almost like if we relied too much from the past it's like like a book on the shelf that gets dusty you know you might as well keep it open and be practical with with your connections with your wisdom let it flow through let more fresh insights flow through and it helps with everyday life like you said you always like it's this day like I said just be being field going back to that place because like many many people they just kind of going through the motions they know what to do whether it's spirituality whether it's just clinging on to their faith they you know I'm saying they've done it before they know what to do and good at it so they can do it without going back to that place man of just being in the presence of your Creator and just connecting with the with the energy getting a passion again restoring a passion for life for people for for energy just whatever realm of belief you're in for me I like to put on just some worship music just some beautiful music and tap in or just a meditation music and just and just tap in with with the Creator and instantly for me everything's okay now you know I'm saying like if things just seem like if I'm carrying the weight of the world on my shoulders if I don't know where the next paycheck is coming from or whatever like these these worries that we have that consume our our peace and our joy we let it rob us and things like that I don't think that's supposed to happen at all like in in the midst of walking through a world that is full of confusion we're supposed to be the ones who have this peace or have this joy that's that's contagious that other people are envious of that joy and things like that so it's all about tapping back into the spirit realm tapping in with with your Creator and and becoming one again and it's not like you were you were you were left or you were forsaken but it's about look let me slow down my busy schedule another's because there's people who say that you know they're always mindful of God or they or they praise throughout the day all day every day so I'm always connected so I don't have to go back to that that type of place of prayer and meditation but I think it's special I think it's something about creating that ritual if you will of say you know what there's a lot of things I could be doing right now that I need to be doing that I want to do but I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna block this time off to spin with my Creator and to tap back in then there's something of intimacy and there's something there's something something special about that you know mm-hmm and it's also showing a deeper form of respect and appreciation it's like you're stopping everything else that you're doing to be a hundred cent focused 100% connected engaged aligned you know it's like realigning yourself Rhys entering and it is it is old food is gonna feed your souls and a nourishing nurture you cleanse the mind you'll be more present for the rest of the day it gives you that more that endurance more of that peacefulness to walk in your faith to walk and peace in love to feel okay you know this life is a gift even though this is happening and that's happening you know let me put that in God's hands or the universe's hands or whatever you want to say but feeling that you don't have to carry it and you could still send it healing whatever it may be you know other things in life saying your prayers and how powerful it is to use this voice I definitely recommend to to everyone to say prayers out loud because it's like being on microphones and sending that frequency out and you also hear it it comes back in so it calms your spirit your soul at the same time yeah and it's I mean there's power in the spoken word as a very lease I mean people who were into science who would just they don't really have a religious background or even believe in a God that cares about you or whatever the case is they don't feel the need to kind of pray to a god or whatever but it's just a power in itself of the spoken word of saying this stuff out loud I mean even if it is all in our head when we speak this stuff out something happened something shift I was just in and I was doing some dishes a while ago and I made sure that I did that and it's something to it like I always walk in in a spirit of gratitude for everything in my life the good the bad the place I am now which I'm doing this full-time now I'm doing podcast and music and and graphic art and things like that full-time and it's a it's kind of a gamble right now because I'm still new to it I'm it's it's dealing with my trust and things like that right making sure that I trust my my God who is my Creator who is my provider that's one of the names mentioned of in the Bible Jehovah Jireh the provider one of his names and so it's like that's very special to me and to see you and to see many other of friends whether they're doing healing work I know Christy leaves in the chat room right now she's a mutual misty and there's so many other people I talk about these different tattoo artists who I used to go and you don't think get some work done and they would be so light-hearted they show up to work and they were doing what they love to do for a living receiving a a check for it and they get to get up and get out of bed and go do what they love for a living it was something so envious of that and I think that that's something that everybody should be able to do so part part of that is is what I'm doing now I get to wake up I get to talk to people like you I get to discuss topics that I love to talk about I get to wake up and work on music and things like that it's so awesome and part of that it's coming through the prayer and meditation of spending time with source getting a game plan and making it happen so about walking in the spirit of gratitude is I always had that inner gratitude oh you don't say on my heart but it's one thing just to know it and to say well you know God already knows my heart I wonder I have to say it out loud you know but it's it's something changes when you begin to speak it out like I have the inner gratitude nothing there's nothing different that that would happen within my heart if I confess it but when I start confessing it I just begin to thank God I just begin to confess blessings over my podcasts I've got I thank you for my podcast thank you for bringing me here for this season I trust you I think you that lives are being changed through the work that I'm doing I thank you that you know that I'm gonna have investors come along I'm day and I just start confessing these things and then it starts happening it's like the law of attraction we do the law of attraction in this positive confession and affirmations for I know they'd like to focus on parking spots and you know things like that all you know in the secret but to do it and to confess this stuff for healing to start confessing this stuff that people are gonna be fed from the work that I put out people are gonna come to a knowledge of God off of my life people are gonna and start confessing this up and then you start seeing that it works that it's working that when I lay hands on people they're gonna be healed the sick shall recover when I pray a blessing over them and then it starts happening you're like wow but if you're in a place of doubt worry and trouble you're not going to be you're not gonna step out and even try that but it's moving in that confidence and I think all of it comes or it talks about faith being fueled by love and and and that that love that we have for God for people for everything that habits I think that's what fuels the faith that we have to kind of be sent out into those realms and do this stuff yeah totally I feel like any kind of anxiety and the uncertainties on one side of the spectrum but on the other complete side is that trust that faith you know and it's like shifting and it's like having like a light difference if you feel any anxiety shifting it over into trust and a good exercise is to to say I trust that I am Alive I trust that I am breathing I trust that that you know you can state your name I trust that you know for me I could say I trust I'm a woman I trust that I have two sisters etc you know just connecting with the facts and then you want to spread it out to two things that are a little shaky I trust that this podcast will be continued to rise and be even more successful you know just like branching it out even more and I love the law of attraction the secret is on my favorites and it's good to to watch it every so often maybe not the whole thing you know because it takes a lot of time but even if it's like a little segment of it you know just to have that refresher and to polish your third eye off everything off you know polishing off your mindset especially a lot has to do with the mindset and and in the emotions of course everything has to be cleared once again I feel like letting go is the biggest component to allowing yourself to do it giving yourself more permission to do it to believe in yourself more to have faith in yourself to have faith in God to have faith in this life still to reconnect with that and I feel like when as you're saying expressing your gratitude and staying in a state of gratitude I feel like it's so important because it keeps that channel open it keeps the door open so that way more greatness can come through yeah that's pretty awesome that you're doing that yeah heck yeah that's what it's about man just don't despair are positive confessions and positive affirmations over your life I mean but we don't want to be selfish with it if it works for us then it works for other people as well yeah you know what in like the scriptures talk about this they call it prophesying is to is to understand the promises of God what's your yesterday man which there's a lot of discussion on that we've been talking about here lately but someone who's having a bad day just speaking positive affirmations over them and it doesn't even have to be in a form of okay let's spend this time in meditation I want to impart this to you or whatever it could be just in conversation hey you know what those you know those things you're believing for you're gonna get you know God you don't think God's not done with you yet you know how like if you if you feel defeated and some random person comes into your life as hey God's not done with you he loves you he's got a plan for you or however you want to word it right that man that's life-changing and I've been early on I've been in groups where people did that and they see the potential in you and I do that a lot I'm able to see the potential in people and to and in you know that that even has to have this balance balances as well because you can be dealing with somebody who's a wreck you see the the you know I'm saying the potential in them you got to be able to see that through to the end and and you got to be still be able to be careful because you a lot of times I'm able to see this person as the healed version of them of walking in freedom and forgiveness and achieving their dreams and goals but there's they still have a lot to overcome and so a lot of people in this is just a warning so you know I'm saying a lot of people can can deal with these people and let these people into your life a lot of people try to date someone like this you try to date somebody who has a lot of work and you say you know what I want to fix them I'm gonna sit into this person's life to fix them Church they called it discipleship dating it's so funny I relate everything back discipleship dating you know you know but yeah you just you always have to be careful about you know being being unequally yoked with people who are of different energy vibrations or just have different goals and dreams and life as well you know so that's that's a warning and uh the kind of I want to I want to talk a little bit more about warnings um but before I do I want to let everybody know that the the phone lines are open I see everybody hang out in the chat room there's a bunch of discussion going on in the chat room they're on YouTube we stream this live one on YouTube when I go live the the stream schedule is posted on my website so every time I book a session with somebody on the podcast you can go there and and see it so if you guys want to tune in live there's a lot of people listening on the podcast audio in who have never caught a live broadcast so if you want to do that subscribe to my youtube you'll be notified when we go live and you can go ahead and mark it on your calendars there from from the website but the phone lines are open the numbers streaming across the top of the video and it's also in the descriptions if anybody has a question if you want to add to the conversation feel free to call in so we just try to make ourselves available during these times when we go live here so the that is available to you guys who want to call in so talking about warnings right I did a video some some time ago now it's called is meditation demonic and it's funny because I get a lot of messages about this I get a lot of comments you guys are playing with fire you're letting demons into your life when in and for some reason because I come from the you know I'm saying the Christian background they're all scared of it like even though they do it without even knowing it right they enter into states of heightened senses of awareness and deep states of meditation while they're listening to music or at church on Sunday morning and in worship you know what I'm saying they're into that that transfer ritual will stay you know and but when it comes to just whether it's the terminology or they say it's Eastern mysticism let's always be careful you're doing this I get a lot of inboxes and comments about that I did a video saying it's meditation demonic and I reiterated that that I get those messages the majority of people were laughing that that's some that somebody would would even that I would get a lot of messages of people saying hey it's dangerous stay away from it watch out for those people just kind of stuff right but I addressed it talked a little bit about that because there's a lot of people who still and obviously it comes from you know I think a religious mind stay for the most part but people say you know you're gonna get possessed by demons if you empty out your mind like I've heard this stuff from teachers from teachers they say that you're gonna get possessed if you empty out your mind and try to pray that you should never do that your mind should be continually on God or whatever the case is talk a little bit about that or are there warnings are there things that we should are there pitfalls and things we need to watch out for if we empty out our mind and just don't do the protection will demons try to come in and trick us and things like that what kind of goes on is there anything to be scared of or to be fearful of in those realms I feel it's mainly a fear of the unknown you know tapping back into that at the beginning kind of clipping that off but uh but yeah it's once again like meditation its chem Eve used so differently because it can be it's like it is like art also to where there's so many different genres there's so many different styles yeah so it's like what what are these not to categorize all Christians as as one stereotype or anything because everyone's still so unique and everyone's so different so it's like I'm not quite sure what they see about it I have a lot of Christian friends that are sweetheart I love them completely they're like family for sure um but anyway like say like with with demons and everything it's like I do my best to know but I don't even look at I just say with the light you know just like light blasting to where you know it's like almost like I'm I would see is like you know like demons like if you're connected with a light it's like they're scared of it yeah in a way so so it's just like if you stay connected with God and when the mind is calm and clear I feel like the minds meant to be more of an open receiver and it's it's best to have it open and calm to where you could receive more that direct divine guidance and you know connecting with much more wisdom and insights that positive download of clarity you know your direction in life what you're meant to do next excetera what you need to hear right now you know for example now I feel if you stay connected with God or with your faith if it's filled with light then no worries whatsoever but once again there's so many different subcategories of meditate you know and some different personalities that are meditating and it's like they're making it their own - so it's like and and some people do like the darkness some people do you know and that's and that's okay that's for them that's what their soul needs to experience to whatever their pull to so it's like literally teach their own and and if you do connect more of the darkness then it's more easy for those darker lower energies to come in because it's like it's attracting to them so it's if you want to let go of all that and the fears of that like these negative entities attaching because they can attach onto onto people you know it is the thing I've met people with with different things like that but and it is kind of freaky and activity honest and it's nothing yeah it's hard to get it off sometimes too but on video if you stay more connected with that purity that light the the sacred light you know it's like how you mentioned Holy Spirit if it's thank God you know with angels etc and then it's like a clear Lane you know yeah I think you hit it hit the nail on the head is this essentially the fear of the unknown yeah especially I found I don't want to beat up on charged people but I found that they demonize what they don't understand coming from a religious background that's just I think that's I think that's across the board you demonize what you don't understand you didn't read it in the Bible so therefore it's not if God or it's demonic but when we're talking about walking in the light there is no fear in love perfect love casts out all fear so if we're walking like the scripture says walk in the light as he is in the light then you know we can't be harmed to by any darkness and so if you're already doing the things that are good if you're if you're already on that that path or even what's called the highway of holiness like there's nothing to be afraid of and so we like to talk about finding your friends and finding those people who you kind of resonate with here your vibe attracts your tribe like whatever you're doing whatever you into there's people out there who are into that you can connect with those people and and naturally when you meet there's gonna be a kindred spirit there you know and so I think it's the same in the spirit realm like the things that you're doing on the earth if you're if you're deceiving people if you're lying if you're cheating and then you go into the those those realms and you try to move around without any protection I think you are susceptible to dealing with those type of entities but if you're a good person if you're offering up arms before God if you love people genuinely you're trying your best I think that when you tap into those realms you're going to experience the same type of energies that you're releasing or the level that you're vibrating at those realms of energy because the the light can't darkness cannot coexist with the light if you're in a dark room and it's feel like the shadows and then a silhouettes around you what happens when you turn on the light they're gone and you found out that that darkness was just a figment of your imagination but when you so it's not like you have the light on and then darkness takes over the room that doesn't happen like always Trump's the darkness and so there's nothing to be afraid of if you are a Christian and you're interested in meditation there's nothing to be afraid of just cover yourself in the Holy Spirit and if you ask your father for protection he's not gonna let anything anything harm you I think it's funny when we talk about this stuff because like people want to say that you know there's people who are deceived in the work that they're doing is deception and things like that I found it hard to believe that if one has a relationship with the god of the universe writers and you're in your one you're connected with that that that entity that being that presence and then you go to meditate and you pray before you go in God let me experience you anything the good that you have for me let me experience that in these days whatever you have for me I'm ready to receive it like that's that's the ginger guess I you know I'm saying just like a general prayer for somebody going in and and then to go into the realm and begin come out possessed with demons and deceived and so you mean to tell me that you're loving trusting father as you prayed as you set the intention for anything good he asked for you he ended up letting you go into those realms getting possessed and overcome with demons and darkness I don't believe it I don't see it happening but some people's mind works that way like if it's night they don't I guess they'd question someone's integrity or somebody else's relationship with the truth or with the light I don't I don't know where that is it's definitely something that comes up but like I say many people who are already into meditation into some some advanced spirituality they laugh that were even addressing this stuff now people can possibly believe that if you meditate you'll become possessed you know it like you don't I mean to them they can't fathom it but in the early stages people don't know what to expect and so there is that fear there and I guess I guess essentially it is a healthy fear though right I mean you should you should question or you shouldn't take anything that anybody says what hook line and sinker without proving it without testing it though you know mm-hmm and I feel like I'm going back to the fear of the unknown sometimes and this goes for all of us not connecting with any religion or anything but it's like when we have a fear of the unknown which is common super common we're human so fears they exist you know it just it's a way to to observe and like say if fear comes up it's like okay let me at least research it more or look into it more let me go ahead and dilute it like prey on it whatever you have to do whatever you feel guided to do but basically if there is a fear say in general speaking about anything like almost like the fear causes you to see the worst scenario to just kind like a safety net like okay this is the worst that could happen you know with with any kind of visual to any scenario so it's like maybe they do see it like see it from like the darkest of side just in case to to anticipate okay what is there but a lot of my Christian friends like stay with Toastmasters I've been there for about four years now and it's part of like states celebration Church and it's in the activity center so it's in the activity center of this amazing Christian Church a lot of upbeat and things like that and they're very open like even though like meditation my friend chick he's a sweetheart he's like you know we don't like you but we're open yeah you gonna say it is he doesn't mean anything he's not afraid to talk yeah he's funny too is like a grandpa you know storyteller kind of a vibe really sweet guy but he's like you know sometimes I go up there and the last presentation that I gave was about meditation about healing and things like that and they're open to it you know everyone who is taking deep breaths you know just for a few moments close the eyes you know even if it's seeing it like a moment of resting you know take a break from everything and and stay with with Christians tapping back into that it's like they have like so many of their own the structures so profound to its you know the affirmations they have their own affirmations you know things like that and personal like did you might make up my own affirmations and to share my background I was raised Catholic and nowadays I don't follow a religion I just like to say God and I'm comfortable comfortable with that and then everyone is comfortable saying God but I'm just really feeling like this is your life and feeling what resonates with you and we're not here to make everyone happy we're here to to feel okay what are we learning right now what are we guided to share you know to love and to be loved and to learn self love and forgiveness it's not the other all these different life lessons and even though there's a lot of differences with the duality of this life and with people the diversity there it's like even though we're not totally like same we're playing the same kind of way it's like okay they could explore God in their own ways and that's fine it's like we don't all have to do it the same way and that's okay you know which makes it once again it adds more depth to this life more layers and yeah it's um I think it's it's getting over the right to be right as well yeah this is the only way in the way of people and train people for years or this is the only way and you kind of got to get over that I think yeah I think the height of spirituality is when you do get over yourself or get over your sense of being of being a riot or not because I remember coming from that type of background and and I say we say Chris Christians Christianity you know what I'm saying but there I've been new age shows where they laugh when I mentioned Jesus you know what I'm saying and there there's no such thing as Jesus he was this and he was dead and I'm like okay you know and they get real defensive it's tough so it's like getting over the right to be right I've been I've been on those shows and uh people laugh at you and scoff at you and stuff like that because they believe that they have it figured out I think that we all hold a piece of the puzzle I think there's much to learn from every every religious group or sect or whatever the case is if or or lack of you know what I'm saying so it's getting over the right to be writing and when you fight when you claim to have it all figured out you you'll just see that if you're open that your your your world will shift and you'll you'll just see how much that you don't have it figured out or you have to read about re-evaluate what you once believe and I talk with people who were just sincere about their seeking and things like that and they say that there's stuff that they taught years ago that they are ashamed of you know saying that they don't they wouldn't be caught dead talking about this stuff now of you know and they've had to ask people for forgiveness and stuff for teaching doctrines and belief systems and fears and like separatism and stuff like that you know what I'm saying so it's always about being open and an ever-growing and coming to the knowledge of the truth in whatever ever area it is but to look at meditation prayer trance States all of this stuff I think that it's all simply a tool and we get to use it for whatever we want I don't think that we say well you know what meditation if meditation if you say meditation is bad in my mind you're saying prayer is bad you know that's totally not the case so um it's a tool and you use it for what whatever intention you have is all about the intentions of the heart so if you use prayer and you're praying to demons you're trying to connect with these beings and you're trying to do hexes on people and causes people harm then yeah your prayers have have become demonic you're using them for yeah ill intent same thing with with meditation if you're trying to meditate and channel demonic beings because you want ascended information and you can use against people or you can use for fame and things like that like there's so much there's so much to it when it comes to the ego um then yeah I think that becomes demonic because you're using it for for ill intent but the same with the good stuff if you're praying to connect with with source if you can't pray in to connect with God you're praying to ward off unclean spirits if you're meditation if if you're meditating to connect with God I like to say that prayer is when we talk to God and meditation is when God talks to us that's where I see it yeah absolutely and I feel like with a letting go - it's like same with ego and like talking to these negative spirits to do like it's getting revenge or knocking someone off their path whatever it is if that's the case like if jealousy is there that envy feeling or that hate rheya the anger that's not who you are just literally clinging on to you and it can overpower you to where it feels like I see you that's that's your style it's your character but it's not it's just like this heaviness that's so attached to you that's it it's pollution but it can release off of you you know even though it feels like it's overtaking you it can be removed and that's where I energy healing if it's massage if it's acupuncture whatever modality of healing if it's Reiki you name it the floating tanks whatever it is that that holds you and if it's more yoga connecting with nature more because we need a release and if we don't find a way to release we're just accumulating all of this it's like literally having like storage units on the inside of the body like all these storage units being filled and it's so heavy it's aggravating if you feel the monkey nuts of it you feel overwhelmed and aggravated and frustrated the list can go on but all of that can be released off of you it's not who you are you don't to carry the storage or the way the world on you and I feel like once we release more and do more self-care and if we come back to meditation and if one was used to connecting with negative spirits and things like that it'll be easier to begin a shift you know to like okay like even though I'm not so and so and even though I'm not there just yet like I still do it you know I don't have to be so envious that I have to push them over and bully them you know bullying the helm you know how are fighting against them it's not it's not you versus them it's like okay we're all here together and there's millions of people here so that way you know even though if someone has a big following whatever there's still so many more people and like you said you will attract your own tribe your own people and it's like like attracts like even in the meditation state so if you're feeling one way you're gonna attract that but if I like the attention how you put it like okay let me go ahead and this meditation I want to receive the brightest of light or the the the most profound experience of of what my faith is and just explore what my faith is more because sometimes it's like you know we connected with her faith like you said in the past I mean we were so profound with it was so strong and right now it's like it may be so strong but not as strong as what it can be no it's like an exercise like a workout so that way you could strengthen your your spirit your soul letting yourself breathe and I feel like with breathing will release the the jealousy the envy the anger the frustration that the other it's like a cleanse out clearing out washing out affect to where it's like okay let me go ahead and just be the best version of myself and polish myself off yeah to get rid of all that stuff and I yeah I can I can I can attest to wanting to be successful or wanting to see something through because people said that you can't and that can become your mum saying your motivation but like you know where they said I'll never be nothing let me work as hard as I can let me do this just to prove to them then I can do it and you may spend months yeah years hours doing something or building a franchise or promoting yourself in an area that you're not even called to because you're doing it from a place of that's let me show them and that's the motivation even if you're successful even if you're doing good you're doing good stuff the intentions of the heart is is what needs to be pure so you have to be careful because the mind is so powerful we have to make sure that we're doing the things that we're doing is what we're supposed to be doing versus like spending all this energy and effort and becoming successful and you can have whatever you want you can confess it you can create it but making sure that your heart stays your hands are clean and your heart is pure throughout the whole thing because people get offended oh they they kicked me out of their church let me start my own church whatever the case is like there's so much that people get offended and they say oh I'm gonna be successful and they become successful but the whole time there's like this just a seat of bitterness there and they're operating out of hurt and so that's why you know whenever whenever I got into the healing arts after after dealing with you for the first time the message that came through was heals the healers and I wrote it down that night actually healed the healers and that's kind of been my message in my mantra and I've seen that a lot of clients that come through our people are not just random people passing by who hey let me try this out no it's people who feel called to the deeper things to the mysteries that and most of them want to be doing the same thing that I'm doing or in your case I mean I came to you I wanted to do the same thing you were doing I didn't not like that wasn't the intention when I came it came later but but you end up finding that a lot of people who are coming for healing they want to be doing the same stuff as well whether it's for you know doing it full-time or they just have to have unresolved issues that they have to clear up to do it full-time or wanting to become a healer so healing the healers and so many people that I've seen have people who want to do that but they have those issues and they have to have healing from it so they're not there's nothing that blocks it I can kind of sense I know my own intentions and things like that so I can sense if if something's in the way and it's hard for me to receive it's hard for me to receive it's hard for me to operate in the spiritual gifts and stuff like that if I'm not just a clear conduit of the energy if other things are coming other things are on my mind I mean it just goes back to the meditation it's hard to go into meditation if I'm thinking about what I'm gonna eat tonight if I have something going on you know I'm saying so you have to be clear of all of the stuff that can block or can kind of shift the motives of the heart you know mm-hmm and like saying like I'm having a call mind really helps a lot something that I like to do it tell me focus during sessions is just to give thanks like how you said just come from a place of gratitude to give more thanks even using your inner dialogue to say okay thank you for healing and you I usually say the person's name you know thank you God for healing so and so with me now the data and clearing out but sometimes like I do my best personally just to share in addition to meditation I do my best to receive energy healing at least at least once a week if not once every two weeks because we're human too you know everyone we're all human so it'd be like we need to cleanse and we need to it's like hygiene like in a bath taking a shower or brushing the teeth you just hygiene for the spirit the soul the mind the emotions the body everything it's like okay get all this stuff off of me you know sometimes it does feel like that resistance like the sometimes I could feel it to you it's like so so dense like almost like this rock layer rock on the inside you know it's like it's not wanting to move just yet you know it could be like different things you know different variables different feelings mixed together but it's like diving in like closing the eyes relaxing and it can be peaceful the whole way through even if childhood was rocky and you know it can be heavy-duty but it's needed to it's like weeding the garden weeding all these weeds from the garden it's like okay let me go ahead and pull out what doesn't belong or what doesn't have to be there like that thick layer of dense see the heaviness within you wherever it is it can it's like letting a drain off of you pushing it out however you need to let it release but yeah it can be removed so that we can move forward faster so nothing's holding you back anymore that way yeah that way there's a scripture says something like you know therefore letting go of any weight that so easily entangles us or any sin that that's so easily entangles us is the things that were you know overly consumed with the things that we know that's killing us that we're holding on to right yeah and if it and if it is something dead we're holding on to the dead things and things that we should have dropped years ago you know I'm saying we're trying to still hold on to it and bring it with us into the next season and so it's just letting go all of that so that we can run with a victory forward and to the end to the life that God has for us and to embrace our calling something that another chimed in another friend I mentioned you know it's almost like true trance it is transforming transitioning and it's like almost like you know some people will miss part of their elements of who they are in the present form to where it's heavy or hard to let go this stage because it's like you know I like Who I am I love Who I am you know I'm feeling this vibe and even though I'm chilling and doing this you know it's like you know maybe more in that plateau cocoon kind of a feeling it's cozy and it feels good you know I know that feeling it's like almost like you're gonna miss like that lifestyle or that persona version of you but as you transition it's like all the great qualities will stay and you can still chill and you know kind of rearranging your schedule to where it still serves you so it's like you're not gonna miss anything you're still gonna be you and it's okay to go forwards okay to shed you're not gonna it's like only thing that could leave you is negative energy like say any past hurts any anything any depression that the story of the past don't to carry this story all that can leave so it's a safe journey forward yeah we're coming up on the end of the show and I was want to see if you wanted to lead us in a short healing blessing guided meditation is something yes it's the kind of people who are dealing with stuff that they they can just release it whatever they're doing and and I will say that if someone's driving right now we got a lot of people who listen to this one they're driving be careful you know I'm saying you can feel the energy you bear to feel the benefits from it but don't don't get too caught up in trying to relax while you're driving people talk yeah you have to give that disclaimer definitely yeah and definitely keep your eyes open and two hands on the wheel for sure yeah I could definitely do it do you want to do it for like like two minutes one minute like a taste of it yeah that's fine yeah yeah wrap up with it awesome so for right now if you can go ahead and close your eyes and take in several deep breaths and feel yourself calming down even more letting all of your muscles begin to loosen and take some more deep breaths and go ahead and breathe in more openness more peace exhaling through the mouth like a vent pushing out all the heaviness through the mouth and take some more deep breaths and just let yourself rest using this time to rest and feel that everything is okay and that you're okay letting all the worries go all the fears all the hurts the heaviness whatever that's so heavy within you around you letting it to unfold it's like pushing off all of these heavy blankets off of you unfolding taking some more deep breaths clear in your space within you and all around you and take a few more deep breaths and as you have your eyes closed have your eyes looking forward as if you're looking into the distance very freely and see what there is to see and if it is dark it's okay you're still doing it you're still meditating and just continue to breathe seeing what there is to see feeling all the energy within you and all around you it takes more deep breaths helping your energy to move as you breathe and feel that you are worth it you are worthy to receive that you are important and you always matter your feelings matter and for a few moments feel your connection with your faith with what you believe in what resonates with you you feel your connection with your faith even more and feel your faith coming closer and closer to you embracing you embracing your spirit your soul uplifting you and feel like you are being supported and you are being taken care of and feel yourself lead and go even more and take some more deep breaths you feel that you don't have to carry anything letting everything go take smarty breakfast and feel that everything is okay and that you can trust it you can believe it having faith having trust having hope and then when you're ready just slowly slowly come back hey that's just like a sample good stuff man it's so beautiful um yeah deal with the breath man when I when you always talk about just focusing on the owner breathing we understand that like just a breathing in itself is so powerful well known as the pranayama in Eastern culture and even the breath of the holy spirit the word Ruach is the breath and it says Jesus breathed upon his disciples and they received the Holy Spirit and there's a connection there but when you're in in that state and you breathe always it's like a cycle for me and I it you could see it in your mind's eye and you could feel it but I I imagine like you say taking in that breath through my nostrils and feeling the energy coming up almost to my third eye crown Shankar coming down coming back up in it out of my mouth so breathing in the goodness and letting go of the negativity so it comes to in it I eat sama eats breath yeah cleaning me it's here me there's a lot of spiritual science into that like the as the breath going down into deep places of our body and healing us through our breathing and and and most of us are breathing wrong anyway so it's when you take that time and there's different breathing techniques that you can do in different states of Kundalini Yoga and holotropic pranic breathing to get high off your breath all of these these things to do to instantly enter the trance state or going into meditation the breath is so powerful man and I'll cherish these moments doctor just thank you for coming on some more time with me give everybody your links because you are available for private sessions and if anybody in the New Orleans area of they want to come check you out you do a lot of events there you also go to schools and do a lot of stuff let's do this let's talk about the schools a little bit because I want to hear that personally and then what then will share your link so okay yeah so I've been to different locations of schools even in some Hospital settings in the behavioral unit section and like people that are depressed or whatever that's going on you know and it really as you're helping them and sharing meditation with them and what helps what helped me back then was helping me now sharing those tools it's like it brings cure to my eyes because it's like my childhood was rocky I used to push everything down like let me cry but nothing you know and when I was 13 I was like man be miserable my whole life kind of a thing so seeing these people like and similar States or you know different feelings and they have their own stories but it's like you know you wish you had something like that when you were their age you know and it's beautiful like some some every kid is different you know so you have some kids in the classroom the you know that like feel like the attention everything so yeah it's silly they'll make the joke I would leave me at the time so yeah you know if it's teenagers you never know but it's like I learned how to use certain phrases certain wordings like the maturity level and you know all of them you know the puberty things going through but uh but yeah like um one one group is high school students is at a charter school in New Orleans and and even though the like some giggles and some guys like they're staying with their friends so they're giggling but it's like even though that that's the case like there's so many more people that are diving deep and getting things out of it and having questions and yeah so they're really they're really enjoying it for sure that's awesome so it's almost like you get to go back and do the I know the childhood healing too like yeah seeing these children as they as you going back to yourself you know I know and feeling yourself too and it's like whoa oh you know cause it's like it's kind of there for me so it's like feeling feeding that over and over and even though like um I did like the childhood healing for me it's like we have to remember and we have to remember and like continue to give ourselves that comfort comforting words and making up your own affirmations and telling yourself what you need to hear it's like being a personal coach at the same time so yeah it's just like a lifelong lifestyle you know it is a lifestyle yeah true it's uh it's so awesome to be able to do that I've done that as well I like going into when I was doing a lot of stuff in the churches and stuff going back to dealing with a lot of little kids and you better see you know the UM saying like you're saying the one who's being funny and acting uh being the class clown or whatever is like that's you know that's that's that's me when I was little so you kind of drawn to those people you know saying could you you know what they need I mean you've been there done that and you know why they're acting out and you don't saying the good reasons and the bad reasons that they're doing it and you use you use your hurt you use the things that you've been through in the things that you learned for learn from for your strengths and they're in the in in in in the end as a say in a church that that um the things that that the devil meant for your harm God will use for your good and I've met that I mean that's a universal principle to be able to take the you know all of the things that were thrown at you to kind of build something out of all the bricks and stuff that that were that were thrown at you that you can actually build a monument or used to kind of put you on a platform and use it for good and so that that's the thing about it that to me is the legit spiritual alchemy it's being able to take everything that's flown at you and look at the good and it try to find some type of blessing out of it and turn it back in in the face of the accuser whoever or whatever that is that booms and that that negative force that's out there in in the world and so that you can be used as a beacon of hope for others so it's awesome thank you dr. Jess for coming on the show go ahead give you links out everybody wants to check you out go to your Facebook and your website and all that good stuff yes oh my website is dr. jest ragle TR e GL e dr jest wrinkle comm and Facebook you can find me dr. just try go also on Instagram same set up doctor just struggle just my name basically I used to go basic about ragel when I was growing up and everything it's like more the ego side but it was fun you know like high school because there's a lot of Jessica's you know but it's interesting like even though I feel like with touching on this for just a moment even though the egos there it's like feeling like you have every right to have your own personality it's like not that you're turning into a saint or anything there's one moment and meditations like you know do you want to keep meditating because this will happen you know something like profound like if you keep going on a daily basis really hours at a time you know you really dive deep with it but it's like I feel a healthy relationships to where ego is not overpowering but even having feeling that it's okay to be expressive it's okay to have your own style it's okay to be you know yeah man that was that was something big that I had to come come through you know as though when I was doing the healing things okay I have to present myself in a certain type of light I have to look a certain type of way talk I can't let people know that I'm into this these things or whatever because there are looking to me as a guru or whatever the case is and there was I went back and forth with it because I would show some people that side of me that I like video games that I love to tell jokes I love to make people laugh all of this stuff and I had to like push that person away like no that's not me that was the old me now I'm all about spirituality and contacting ETS and dealing with you devasya we talk about all this heavenly wisdom but yet we still are very much earthly people I love to watch movies you know what I'm saying I'm just I'm a regular person too so instead of splitting the two up that's one thing that always stood out to me as well with people who were successful doing what they love for a living it's not that they're just doing what they love they love but they're able to be themselves and they don't have to pretend that they don't like it I look I there's a couple people you know I'm saying you're one of them that the guys who do the tattoo stuff but when we're dealing with spirituality I look at a good friend of mine um Illuminati Congo John hooks who is doing the same thing and he loves to tell jokes and stuff and he's doing what he loves for a living so it's not like you have to take on a persona or be someone that you're not in it in this there's really a pitfall if you do that I mean the Scriptures talking about like pride cometh before a fall and so to think of yourself so haughty or so like high up there that no one can touch me and I'm ascended that I don't even like to do things of the earth or I mean even some of the Gnostic traditions are trying to like abstain from any type of earthly pleasures whether it be sex whether it be foods or video games or drinking or partying or going to the Mardi Gras whatever the case is they try to abstain and there's sects of Christianity that believed that if anything that makes your flesh happy that you're supposed to stay away from it in that spirituality you come to find out that that's not what it's about it's really nice it's about embracing who you are and that you are fearfully and wonderfully made and all the things that you like you like that stuff for a reason so don't be scared of it but but be yourself and so for you to be successful and being something that you're not that's not success does not happen if you can just be confident in the and being the person that God made you to be whatever that is let your freak flag fly and people when you do that that moves people to a state of envy they're like man I want what they have why are they like you don't have to hide anything it's all out in the open oh you do this you do that like by people they make fun of me because I play like Pokemon with my family we go to the park and I we did videos and and stuff and they're like oh you're spiritual but you're playing Pokemon yeah well my family I enjoy doing this this is something that's fun and and I people would be like unsubscribe if you show them that side but it's like you know what I have to it really is because you're giving them one thing and then it changes up and like hey he's just a regular person like me but no that's where the power is yeah get so caught up and pride and and so lofty like I'm talking about the Bible just give so many warnings about pride cometh before fall and there's instances where like the past Apostle Paul was taking trips back and forth from heaven to earth and leaving this body and have any ecstatic experiences and healing people and stuff and he had he had to be brought back down to let him know the hey I'm a man I need grace to I'm just a regular person because if you know watch it people start getting into the mind state that the mind said that I'm the chosen one I am the one who has the wisdom I'm the one who does this I'll talk to plenty of friends when it comes to UFOs I had a friends who could go out and take pictures in every picture they took a UFO was there they would receive information and they take pictures and they develop it in UFOs went every picture and they felt like they were divinely contacted like set apart from everybody else but you look at that stuff and say look everything I'm doing you could do and greater isn't that the words of Jesus they're greater things you shall do and I think that that should be the spirit that we possess in us so if there's any pitfall it's definitely that pride pride comes before a fall and so to stay humble to stay in a spirit of gratitude and Thanksgiving and everything that you do mm-hmm awesome yeah and and I feel like in addition like in addition to saying humble it's also how you said like honoring who you are and who you're created to be you know respecting and claiming your gifts and that's not a ego it's more of like a soul the power of your spirit the power your soul the power of your existence and how you're created entirely so see I really like that like this just the balance of it and that's the thing of just learning learning to balance it you know I'm saying you know it's good and everybody has everybody has to come to that conclusion on their own and and how to do that but but don't be afraid to do that just embrace who you are we're well-rounded beings and it's like even though we're spiritual you know we have all these other components of who we are even though this spirituality it's like flowing and breathing and just like in harmony with all that we are but it's like we like your your personality and who you are there's so many different facets like a diamond or something so many different size so we'll around in multi-dimensional so it's like you know even though I'm showing you one side of me doesn't mean I can't Pokemon or something it's like tell me how you know I deserve to have fun too and you now doesn't mean I can't be silly or whatever you know it's like that we have that composition of who we are yeah I could see it though like if I look up to some of the people that I've looked up to over the years when it comes to spirituality they only show you one side of them we know a hundred percent that they're not that all the time when they walk out on stage that's a persona that's yes that's a performance setting even at times you know but um but but if I was to see you know I can use somebody like Benny Han he's more of a real poised guy you know I'm saying and he's real always serious but if I was to watch a video of Benny Han out there joking telling jokes making people laugh playing poke your mind it would it would throw you off because you you put these people on a pedestal you know everybody wants a guru and stuff but but it's I said no it's it's a level playing field and if you're not embracing the things that we're teaching and applying it to your life then I think I think you've told you've totally missed the point and but if it's not you like if that's if you're not into that stuff then then don't act like you are but if you are embrace it especially if there's something that that's good it was something that that brings joy to people you know yeah that resonates with you it's being true to yourself at the same time it's a it's a hard topic in the spiritual community because we can see people in all other walks of life and they have no problem with this but sometimes when it comes to spirituality we think that everything has to be serious and something it I could because I think the majority of what we're talking about is serious you know I'm saying we're Tommo you know people talk about eternal salvation and and and you know ways to prosper and demons and things and then we're talking about you know light-hearted stuff but it's a little bit of all of it so that's that's the battle right there man it's coming to uh to our grips of who you are and being okay with that so yeah I dr. Jess I appreciate you what again sue my friend thank you for hanging all right take care thank you for having me all right yeah doctor just regal ladies and gentlemen good friend man we go back with that whole spiritual journey man was becoming a healer doing you know that the the work of a healer um came through a session with her and then on to psilocybin journey one thing we didn't talk about I was wanting mention to her because we're friends so another friend of mine who came with us on the journey and you guys who are familiar with my story you know this but it was a buddy of mine drew Gower and at the time drew was right under 400 pounds he was 390 pounds and so he went to the healing session he did the psilocybin encounter as well and there was a profound moment that we had with one another we shared it on my podcast and Drew's working on a own on his book and things like that he's gonna go into a lot of detail about where he was but one of the the pivotal moments for him was when we were both on the psilocybin encounter that that same night and we passed in front of the mirror and uh he he looked at the mirror and I made him stop we passed in front of this big mirror and I said uh I say man what do you what do you see in that person right there and uh he said what he seen on the outside you know I'll say what are you seeing on the inside he's like the person that's loving I love people kind-hearted this kind of stuff you know and he had this weird revelation at that moment that you know there's a lot of people who like to make the outside appearance look pretty and seem like you have everything all figured out and everything together but inside you're hurting inside you're dying and so for drew at that moment it was a weird revelation because it was the opposite he hated the way that he looked on the outside he's you know hundred pounds health is failing him and I had all types of stuff that came with bad eating and in thing these habits that were in his life using food is comfort and stuff and so from having that profound encounter he took that and from that moment on man that psilocybin mushroom encounter he took that in and he applied those principles to his life and he just began to be diligent with it and it was just a place for him to to see the person that he wanted to be to do the things that that he wanted to do I'm you gotta imagine somebody like that he was you know he was he was big the majority of his life and now he took he took all that stuff and he applied it the spirituality behind it he's lost like almost like what we's he's like uh he went from 390 to 190 all within like a year like right over a year and now and this is the power behind it man do you need spirituality do you need this stuff to kind of you know fulfill your dreams and walk in that stuff I don't think everybody does but there's many people if you're still listening to this show at this point you're listening for a reason and you you can apply those principles to your life and Dru not only is awesome because we started out our journey together in I've come a long way since then and so has Drew and so it's just beautiful to see the growth it's beautiful to see that the alchemy of just the power of agreement when you see that person in your mind's eye you see that person in your heart I'm sure he's seen his self I'm sure he's had nightmares you know what I'm saying of him being uh being skinny and waking up and he's he's stuck in that body and now he still talks about having nightmares cuz he's he's fit now he's in great shape he goes to the gym every day it's a crazy transformation I had I did an interview with him if you guys want to go back and watch that one Droog hour just type that in on any where you listening to my podcast um but he has those nightmares of waking up of dreaming and he's still 400 pounds and then he wakes up in a and and he's he's seen that the transformation not only him but it's his wife as well they've just been on this awesome journey and it started with that session with dr. dr. Jasmine it started there you know we had a whole weekend playing there well we did the psilocybin and the floating so all of that together man that was a whole win-win situation so it's awesome so I definitely encourage you guys to check out her work you know I'm saying book a session with her do something man just whatever you you got you guys deserve it especially if you already know what you want to do like I think you have a I think you have a one-up on a lot of people there's so many people walking around aimlessly they don't know what they want to do they have no dreams they've given up on everything so if you already know what you want to do I think you have a 1-up man another component that I always talk about when we talk about fulfilling your dreams of walking in your calling is a book it's a book called The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho and I read it it lit a fire within my heart I passed it on to Drew he read it same thing so all of that stuff that combination was just like oh my god it makes it puts you in a place that if you're not careful do you kind of move to a state of depression but I think it's a good thing I think it's a good thing we talked about the psilocybin encounter we talked about wanting to fulfill your dreams and wanting to embrace your calling whether it's on the magic mushrooms or whether it is reading the book The Alchemist it's a very similar state you go to this love this place that's enchanted of your dreams the place you go when you die you embrace eternity in a moment you feel Universal love but then you come back to your body and you have to go back to your job at the warehouse or bagging groceries and you're like man I'm called to be a healer but I'm here bagging groceries I'm here I'm called to be a healer or a musician or a writer or whatever you want to do you want to travel the world but you're pulling car parts in a warehouse delivering car parts doing 50 60 hours a week and you barely have any energy when you get home so it's these type of things that can lead you to a state of depression but it's to use that that fire that's that that's lit within you to pursue the things that you're called to do whatever it may be man and this is what I did I'm doing this now full-time um so there's so many drew man his life has taken off you know he's got he got job job offers to go work with DDP DDP Diamond Dallas Page the wrestler flew drew Gower out from Chicago to Atlanta to visit his gym and do a story on his weight loss and they covered it and he did a video that video has since got millions of views not 1 million that video I think last time I checked this probably at like 10 million and that was months ago of all these people reupload Andrews story so here's drew like depressed and in you know self-loathing and and and and don't see any way out of it to reach down deep and grab these principles apply them to his life and show up and be consistent and it pay off and understanding the spirituality of it understanding that you do have you you are fearfully and wonderfully made and God puts you here for a reason you believe that you confess it you start to see signs everything starts to line up for you and and lead you down these paths of spiritual enlightenment doors begin to open that you can't open that you can't facilitate even if you tried so it is it's a it's it's it's a beautiful song and dance man and we're all on this journey together and so if you're listening to this I hope that this conversation lights a fire within you I hope that that you don't even have to kind of read those books or or whatever so I know it I know it does I get the messages that people are listening to this show man people are listening to these stories that are coming through and they and they're just you know they're starting to embrace it and like is attracting like and your vibe attractor tribe we're connecting with people who have very similar stories man there's another guy who hit us up in the chat room he's been listening to Andrew Andrew showed me a picture of him his his selfie he he lost a bunch of weight he looks like a totally different guy this he met with us the other night on the School of the Mystics and uh man just to see this the power of transformation and that it works this is truth I go by the name truth seeker that's a name I chose for myself I'm not conspiracy theory seeker I'm not truth multiple truth seeker or plural the things that may work or you know it's about truth it's about things that you can apply to your life and see you can see change from it if you if you apply I'm only speaking about what works for me I'm not you know and if it is if we are talking about et contact all of that stuff for me and where I'm at it fits into place for some reason whether we're being guided by these angelic beings I think that they're angels every experience I've that I've had has been angelic so all of this stuff fits in and it is part of truth and so whatever it is 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