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hey my friend how are you uh how are you
i'm so happy to be here thank you
good to have you uh we had a good talk
on on your show
uh a week ago i guess me yeah me you and
craig it was awesome
yes and i want to have you back too i'm
excited to have you back
um some of the patrons you mentioned are
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get activated and to meet other people
you know it's cool
yeah so we've been uh we've been
i guess in the same streams for a while
we got a lot of same mutual friends we
never really connected
uh obviously i told you like a long time
ago i've seen your book
like just on like probably looking up
spiritual images on
on google and your book pops up you know
that kind of stuff so i mean that was
like the first time
seeing your work and and going to your
page and stuff like that and then um
you know we have a lot of close friends
um
and in the christian mystical movement
and even in you know the the uh
spiritual movement as well a lot of um
similar people so
let's just kind of get started just
talking about your background like uh
did you start from the christian
movement in in
church and stuff like that well no
um and also i just want to say how much
i
absolutely adore your work and you as a
person your integrity
and how you have navigated through all
this when we were back
um last week craig well about a month
ago craig had contacted me about you
and uh because of the name thing i
wasn't clear
on who you were and then uh
lo and behold after we did the show and
everything i like sent you something
private because we were in this group
chat the whole time and i'm like
i saw a message that i had we had talked
in like night
2019 about uh sacred geometry
yeah yeah oh yeah yeah
but i mean both of us you know probably
talk to so many people every day
and get mass amounts of stuff so um
but i choose to remember how i found you
i'm just um but it's so cool how
god does so great things but to answer
your question
um yeah i did not come up uh in church
at all like my parents didn't go to
church i actually came up
my daughter was military and um
had some pretty amazing encounters
with jesus actually uh at a very early
age on easter sunday of all things in my
in my um grandmother's
house on an easter sunday upstairs in
her room
and um that shifted me for sure
um you know going forward and i
understood what my takeaway from that
and i can i actually
feel that in my body when i talk about
it um
was love you know just just the the a
massive amount of love that god
has for us and in us you know it's
and i say in us because that shift
for me was internal um it
i i was able to see it externally but i
felt it inwardly and all the encounters
that i've had have been
a shift within because god is in
and um you know i tried tried to talk to
some people you know my parents and i
actually just like knew things about
people and
uh had this something activated for sure
and um but i was also a part of some
military
programs and you know they
uh they do their darndest to
make sure you don't remember stuff but i
still had a lot of bleed through and
some things but it didn't really make
sense and i just kind of like you know
shelved a lot of things and just trying
to like be a kid and do life and moving
and
you know i've lived all over the united
states and europe and
you know so doing all of that and still
having these encounters
and so when i moved to louisiana
at 13 um the first time
um you know everybody was in church and
at that time
people it was like a big deal like you
didn't really have a friend if you
weren't in church so uh you know i
i you know they asked me like are you
saved and i was like
say from what you know that is to come
a car accident or something like got me
off a boat or
you know i didn't understand the
terminology and they brought me
somewhere and we went you know to a
revival and i just remember feeling
you know love and emotional and you know
ask god to come into my life which you
know at the time even
well and even now i i don't think it has
anything to do with uh
saying certain words or anything um
you know that's to me my opinion is a
program
i know i do think there needs to be an
activation and an acknowledgement of
waking up
to the dna that's already there and that
word
surrender um was always like a bad
thing for me because that to me i
associate that with like giving up and
i'm not a quitter i'm like
super warrior and you know um but
surrender to me now scientifically has
to do with
giving up the technology or or
remembering that the technology is there
and surrendering to the technology of
god
in us who is the most amazing high
frequency there is
and so but yeah i went through that i
felt really felt
since four to be on some path or mission
to help as many people understand love
you know in service and i didn't know
how that would be i didn't know what it
would look like
you know but um because of the
programming in church you know it
seemed like well maybe i'm gonna be a
pastor or
you know i want to be you know work with
kids and maybe be a youth pastor and
you know so but my gender
in that particular situation uh they had
forbidden that so when i went to
seminary and bible school you know bible
school and then seminary
it was always like well maybe maybe you
can marry like a nice pastor
and you know which is odd because it's
like
well if you're a mission in the mission
field it was completely fine to go to
china or wherever as a female
and do whatever but like in the states
like you know
it's it's suddenly a different rule so
you know um but it's it's just been
um there's been a lot of things over
time with
church which and i love church i love
god
and i think he can be there because he's
everywhere
and i also just think there's some
misunderstandings or
programming that kind of can
get people spun out and not really
understand or the real
power and authority that each of us have
as individuals
and um but you know so i did the
ministry thing
um despite my gender
and i did that for years and years you
know finally women were allowed
ish i was like the only chick a lot of
times at these
conferences and what have you and um
you know i think there's there's not
even a problem with that anymore
in most most fields as you know with
women but
um but i ran into some other stuff you
know i got i got really sick
and you know was looking for answers and
found some things naturopathically
and um just really felt god had a major
encounter to go back
to school and get my doctorate in uh
medicine and um you know everyone was
like oh my god she's
she's leaving ministry you know she's
studying witchcraft you know it's like
you know
crazy stuff you know so i don't know i
mean i worked with john paul jackson for
years before this
and there's been a lot of things like i
said it's like
gender was an issue and then music was
an issue we were kicked out
of our church because we wanted to play
an electric guitar oh my god
you know it's like and then um
you know just we god forbid we could
hear god's voice you know i was learning
to hear god's voice and really recognize
my voice and
his voice and her voice whatever and
you know then it was like oh that's
terrible that's witchcraft and then you
know it was like
then we studied dreams and visions and
gave prophetic words and went to these
like
you know places where we could speak to
people
and and help people and you know connect
with god and
that was terrible you know and so i've
always been
like i guess ahead and like yourself
yeah of just some things that like not
that
i'm better or you're better but it's
just that you know
we whoever has this you know you get
this understanding you're like or you
study
and you're like oh this isn't what we
were taught
this is actually whatever and you
question it and it's like you know but
when i was sick i went into this whole
thing i started using
frequency and um different things to
help people get
back to themselves which the levites did
and
you know the disciples did and it's all
in the scriptures you know i was
following the guidelines and then that
was still wrong too i had a zyto
you know it was like an electric current
you know you put your hand on it and it
would tell you what was going on with
your body and people
when i went to a conference i'd have it
and we would help people find out what's
going on with them you know and
uh people wouldn't show up and i would
have pastors who found out we were going
to do this in advance and they'd put it
all over florida like
don't go to this meeting she's using
witchcraft
you know to help people you know and
you know we would get shut down or
whatever and it's just like oh my god
like do you use an
x-ray do you use you know um
mris you know is that witchcraft you
know so
there's just been a lot of weird things
you know and you know oils
crystals uh sacred geometry
nature god forbid then you're like you
know worshiping
nature and you know so i i i have this
like
love for everyone in their process
and i try not to get too frustrated and
discouraged
but somewhere along the line i found you
and others who were
doing you know their their version and
um i just i got a really strong
um stubborn part of me that's just like
when i get the truth it's the truth
and so that's kind of where i am now is
just like helping people awaken to
what's real whether it's
whatever politics um
you know ufos you know
remembering you know some of the things
that happened and um
trying to eat well you know writing
books and on things having to do with
making sure we're healthy
and remembering miracles there's a
science to that
you know so um that's kind of a nutshell
yeah that's awesome and um you know
that's uh
you know similar story to a lot of
people who
started out in in the church and then
you have to kind of leave
i feel like it's part of that uh
you know that journey is you have to
kind of walk away from the thing that is
um comfortable you got to leave your
comfort zone as they would tell you in
church you know get out of your comfort
zone and
in the comfort zone is usually the four
walls of the church that kind of thing
and
and it's god is like you have to turn
your back on that thing but not turn
your back on god
and so we told we've been told that
turning your back on the church or not
going to church then you're not a part
of the the body of christ and so that
it's scary so for a lot of people
to make that transition um it's super
hard so that's why i think like our
stories are so powerful to help people
um because you know they have a piece of
the truth and and
uh you know they they're going they're
places where they're tolerated they're
not celebrated you know there's you know
no no room for them to grow no room for
them to share their
their uh their gifts and and talents and
and experiences
and so um you know there's a lot of
people waking up
and they're you know what i champion is
that they they don't leave that
relationship with christ that foundation
that they bring it with them you know
versus like you know
you have to leave that at the door or
something so uh
talk a little bit about your book the
science of miracles like what was that
burst out of all of the stuff you're
talking about
just you know finding healing and
and all that like the science behind it
or the mechanics of a miracle
yeah well the first book that i had keys
to third heaven
um was it like 10 years ago it's like i
still have the wrapper on these but
um and this was like scary for people
you know to be able because i start
talking about the bio field and
you know the or the aura you know and
really studying
science mechanics behind your your field
and what is the information in the field
and how do you get it and
it's funny because people be like oh my
god you know
that's new age or whatever and it's like
no
it's just actual science i mean gravity
isn't new age
uh and we don't have to go to school to
learn gravity
to make it work you know gravity is just
gravity
and it's like it doesn't matter if you
believe in it or not you're
you're gonna either create by default
or you're going to create something
amazing and
you know for me being aware of what i'm
creating
is more healthy because it's kind of
like
you know the gps in your car if you have
one it's like if you put the wrong
address in
you're not going to get to the place you
want to get but if you got the right
address and you know
how to get there with these great
directions you can go so
using your field
and your information and your technology
for you
for god because god's in here then
you're gonna get
some better results then versus just
like
not knowing anything about it and just
like never having any kind of gps and
just roaming around and
not understanding why we're not getting
where we want to get you know
and or why the patterns are showing up
and they're like dang you know this
this keeps happening and it's like no
you keep creating it
so um you know i it was birthed
out of yeah the whole sickness thing and
just seeing some
really crazy patterns over and over in
my own life and
and kind of feeling like why does this
keep happening i was asking those
questions
and uh it was weird not weird but divine
i was um i was thinking about you know
the the field is about
six feet around us uh you can call it
aura field
you know scripturally they had a field
peter how to feel
everyone's got a field whether you
believe it or not and you know in some
cases
you know people were healed right in the
field because it's tangible
it's interchangeable um it's
full of different information based on
your dna signature code
your thoughts your feelings and
especially what your
your feelings uh and what you're talking
about and so
these things are all brought out i was
able to see the field
because there's a man named bob jones
who prayed for me
years ago he was my mentor and spiritual
dad
and after an encounter i had we had
together
when i came back i was i could see this
field
in people and i didn't understand what
it was i actually went to call my mom
and my doc
because my mom's blind and she started
going blind
um why i was she when i was young
and um so i called her worried like oh
my god
how did it start for you you know did
you start seeing
numbers and symbols and colors before
you know and she's like so i went to the
doctor
the eye doctor and basically not only
was
my vision better because i was wearing
glasses at the time
and i had 10 10 vision instead of 20 20
vision like i got an increased vision
um but also when i asked him about all
this he's like i think you need a
different kind of doctor he was really
concerned that i was like a little loopy
um but uh but you know so
i had to know like what is this i'm
seeing and
went to you know further check into some
of this stuff and realizing
you know this is just what everybody has
it's their package and you might have a
package dna signature code
and that is what projects into the field
but it can be
shifted depending on what you're
thinking feeling
and talking about um and or mixed
and you can have like combinations of
code
that could could bring mixed energy and
so you can get mixed results
and again it's just um
it's just science and it not only
radiates out
but it magnetizes to you so
whatever you're thinking feeling talking
about and that code of your
past generations you searches will call
it generational curses
but it could be positive too it could be
not a curse it could be
your gifts or what have you that are
projecting
um and that that signature code mixed
with whatever your thoughts are and
everything that goes out and then you
only can get that
and there's a scripture that talks about
you know a curse can only land
you know i'm trying to remember it i
just saw it yesterday and i was like oh
my god that's the law of attraction
you know um but also there's another one
um guard your heart because it's the
wellspring of life
and when i looked at that derrick i was
like
i looked at the strongs and that word
guard doesn't mean guard
it means to be aware of and so why would
god
really want to sink it in that we have
to be aware of what this is because it's
the most magnetizing
to us and so if you are sad you bring
sad things if you're bitter you bring
bitter things if you're angry and
resentful that is resent
resent resent anger and so you start
piling up
and magnetizing angry people or angry
situations or things that are going to
amplify your anger
and so um i started just writing about
that and trying to give some visuals to
um
to hopefully get people to to just be
more responsible responsible
with this and be disciplined in us
and and create something different
that's awesome
i'm i've just looked up the scripture
Matthew 12 35
says a good man brings good things out
of the good stored up in him
and evil man brings evil things out of
the evil stored up in him
another translation literally says out
of the heart
like whatever is in the heart like it's
coming out because it is that taurus
field it's
moving in and around you uh i remember
that there's a
preacher that that i really like and um
he's um by the name damon thompson you
may know who he is i love damon thompson
but i was listening to him
years ago and he was teaching at a uh
i feel like it was a big youth
conference or something but he started
talking about how peter's shadow
actually fell on people and healed him
when he walked past him
and uh and just like
like spur the moment he said you know if
you if you guys weren't so religious i
could tell you that that's
that's his aura but you guys aren't
ready for that and he just kept moving i
was like oh wow damon thompson's sitting
here talking about the auras
or healing people and stuff you know
peter i was like oh that's really cool
there's a lot of people i'm convinced
that uh they
you know and i think rightfully so they
they study a lot of this stuff but they
they can't really share where they got
it from um
you know they can't say i was listening
to greg braden and greg braden taught me
this they just
watch it copy it incorporate it throw
some scriptures on it
and it kind of works for them because if
they told them that greg braden gave it
to them or
whoever is a you know outside of the
christian realm
then it's going to scare a lot of people
so i think you have a lot of these
big christian leaders who are deep into
i say i don't know if you want to say a
cult but you know the word of cult means
hidden
that which is hidden they've studied the
hidden knowledge and the secret things
of the lord
and um you know and they come back and
they they they put it in their stuff i
remember
listening to uh perry stone which he's
pretty deep too perry stone's got a lot
of deep stuff
and i've got teachings that that i that
i've
i put together that i taught at a
conference
and like perry stone just like almost
like point for point went through all of
my
references and all of this stuff
teaching
teaching vibration and and healing and
synchronicity and i was like man
perry stone's teaching all of this stuff
like everything's come full circle like
we were
laughed at and called a cult or you know
i'm saying new age or whatever for
looking into the
you know vibration and all that kind of
stuff but whenever your favorite
teacher shares it yeah and it's like oh
yeah this has been
the whole time you know we you know i'm
saying we've always
known this or whether it's talking about
aliens angels
ufos all of that stuff you know they
just gotta
you know whenever their favorite pastor
shares it then they
take it as god oh it's real now
yeah uh i mean even the script what was
that scripture Matthew 12 what
35 35 um even
even um this the scripture that talks
about
we wrestle not against flesh and blood
yeah that word wrestle
means we vibrate so it's all about
you know people say good vibes low vibes
you know we are literally walking
vibration frequency
all the time god love is the highest
and we we are bumping up against
other vibrations all day long and
integrating on some level whether it's
an integration lower or higher
yeah and there's different things that
cause low and there's different things
that cost high whether it's like
dead food um you know bad music
uh terrible movies you know i never ever
watch
a movie that's gonna scare me on purpose
or make me sad on purpose like where
they died of cancer or the dog died or
yeah
why pay for that lower vibration on
purpose
and then you know um because we're
then you're going to integrate through
that you know watching the news the news
itself is a mockingbird project and
it goes in through beta waves so it
really really tries to get in there to
the heart
um because what you think about affect
your feelings and
that wave on purpose is to program and
so it wants to
program you into a lower vibe on purpose
and so there's just all these different
you know tactics
of um of the lower vibes that try to get
you
going and then there's other people who
strive
and are disciplined and repent
meaning this is the penthouse and um
you know the highest part to repent just
means to think again
you know to to replace your thought in a
different way
and be more aware of what you're putting
out because
if we're aware of what's going on that
is the wellspring of life meaning that's
what you're gonna get back that's the
flow
that you're gonna get back is what what
goes out and
um you know murphy's law i remember
reading about that and growing up
hearing about it and my mom would always
be like oh you know if any
if anything was bad is going to happen
it's going to happen to me cancel clear
right and
i kind of grew up with that mentality
where even i would call
you know someone in my family and say
this happened or whatever and their
response would be like
there's always something and they didn't
mean it like there's always something
great this is going to be this is going
to turn around for you you know they
meant it like oh god here we go
and that just amplifies more
oh my god here we go and you just keep
that going you know versus
dr phil one day i saw him on a
commercial walking by
and i heard him say the best way to
predict the future is to look at the
past
and i was like oh my god that's also a
very terrible program because what if
you had a really crappy path
you know i mean if you got a great past
you're doing great right but
what if really terrible things happen to
you then you're like oh i'm just doomed
for this forever you know
so i was like that's terrible and later
that afternoon
um something popped up on facebook with
um
abraham lincoln you know the truth guy
you know and
he basically said the best way to
predict the future is
to create it and i was like oh my god
again we are creating anyway why don't
we create something positive why don't
we be aware of what we're creating
you know like let's be on purpose with
architecting you know the new earth the
way we choose we can shift it all
starting with us inside and then as a
collective we can actually
literally change the earth and that's
kind of what i'm
helping hopefully helping people wake up
to
is we are architects we're new earth
architects
and we are responsible for the earth and
we get to fix it
and starts with an inside job with us of
healing i love
what you're doing with these classes and
even
launching people you know into their own
purpose but you're starting out with
let's get you healed first i love that
you're spending time
to say like let's really look and see
what you're putting out
and what what could be a snare and what
could be a trap and what could be
you know a wound that really needs help
before we go
out there because you know what if
you're wounded and you go out
you're going to collect wounded crazy
you know trolls and you know whatever
and there's there's lots of that anyway
yep but yeah it's uh you know that
i felt my spirit years ago that god was
telling me to heal the healers
heal the healers and and that's what i
had to do in my own life
as being a healer somebody who's you
know
i use my music for healing i use the
podcast for healing
i facilitate prayer meeting just
everything that i've
i do it's birthed in healing and so
god had to show me that uh in a vision
and um
you know but there were still things
that i had to get you know healing from
myself you know to really uh
you know i'm saying bring forth that
which is good that's within you so
um i just kind of mapped it out like my
own
awakening and getting healed and dealing
with that and traumas and blocks and
you know different stuff even with
finances and my relationship with money
like all of the these little things that
you don't even think of so to kind of
map it out on
what i went through and then how to
actually bring something to the table so
that just kind of you know you i don't i
feel like you can't really give
somebody something that that you don't
possess or something that you haven't
been through so
like i know this works 100 like if you
if you work this process
it's going to work for you there's no
reason for it not to so there's no
excuses so
um i mapped it out and started bringing
people through that process and
you know just just showing them what's
available
the dreams and visions that god has
given them you know
mostly from childhood probably was there
somewhere
how to go back and recapture that dream
you know
that's really good and i love that you
brought up about
um you know energy and like connecting
others
and being with others because you
you really it is tangible not only by
touch
but by the field and so if i don't know
someone personally
i can interview five of your friends and
go
okay that's that's kind of how he is
because those energies really
mix and match and you know they say
birds of a feather
right and that's legit true and so
if you're getting patterns whether it's
money
relationships um you know even like
getting the wrong food every time you go
through the drive through you know like
whatever keeps showing up if it keeps
showing up
then that means there's something inward
that's projecting that out and this
could be switched
in here to project a new thing and i
would say like go find new friends
like that helps too is you know like
even
in real estate if you buy like a crappy
home
that's decent but all around it is like
big
large houses that are millionaire
houses and you automatically will go up
in appreciation because you're
around these other higher mansions
and you know not to put like one person
better than the other
or anything like that but some people
will have a different activation
that maybe you require to activate you
to do the thing that you're called to do
um
or maybe a different experience you
mentioned you know
having that authority to you know you're
healed then you can heal others it's
like
when when you get activated now you got
the match to activate
other people but if you don't you don't
got the match yeah then
it's got to be turned on with you first
and and with me first and so
you would never go to a doctor who
specialized in
dentistry you know for like your big toe
you'd be like no i think i need to go to
a toe doctor you know
we um you know when we were in the
prophetic movement and stuff real big
and
and doing home meetings and stuff and
praying for people like if somebody
needed
prayer if somebody had pain in their
body like whoever got healed from that
we'd let them pray
like you know what i'm saying like you
know i hurt my back on the job and then
they prayed for me and i got healed
so somebody else had a pain in their
back and i was like well let me pray for
him because the lord just healed me
of back pain so let me pray and then so
you know it was that
that uh there's like a natural empathy
there too
like because you you you really care
about the person who's struggling with
back pain or who's been through you know
marriage problems or
you know financial worries you know
you'd want somebody who's actually not
struggling financially to pray a
blessing over you versus like somebody
broke who's gonna
pray a financial blessing over you like
like you you have the ability again like
that scripture said to out of your heart
to bring that forth
i can bring forth financial abundance
out of my
uh you know out of my heart and it's
transferable
and i can coach you you know and all of
that stuff so
you know look look for those people in
your life
who are where you want to be even with
coaching like
find you a coach who's already doing it
don't go to somebody
trying to you know coach you and tell
you how to do it but they're not doing
it themselves
you know so that that's huge to find
that person get up under them
and essentially it's a little bit where
it goes into you know
uh the scriptures where um elijah and
elijah had the mantle that was passed
down there's this mantle that i'm able
to
to to actually give you like an
impartation if somebody's walking and
you hang around those people long enough
you're gonna start walking in it too
same way we're gossiping if you hang
around a bunch of people who's gossiping
and talking crap about people and always
negative
it's going to rub off on you maybe just
a little bit here maybe a little bit
there now you think you're going to go
in there and change everybody but
usually you know the old saying show me
your friends and i'll show you your
future
i even look at that when we talk about
jesus when we talk about christ like
spending time with him
like i want to start acting like him
he's my friend i'm spending time with
him and prayer and devotion
i want to start talking like him i want
to start loving people like he loved
them i want to start overlooking
people's flaws and just seeing the good
in them like he did like
i want his characteristics to rub off on
me
and essentially that's the fruit of the
spirit love joy peace patience kindness
gentleness meekness self-control
yes um i love that i love that you were
saying all of this because again
everything is energy and even with you
mentioning hanging out with gossip
there's a low vibe to gossip for sure
but also the scripture
says whatever you give ear to
shall be given unto you and so
i'm even careful with i don't care who
you
are you come to me bringing me gossip
and
my response is going to be stop
please don't send that you know i don't
want to hear it
and i'm not going to um and or if it's
about someone who's my friend
i'll say you know what let's get them on
the phone and we'll do a three-way and
let's talk this through
um or i'll just say why are you telling
me instead of them
yeah you know and if they're like oh i
already did it's like okay well then
unless all three get together because
that's what scripture
talks about is Matthew 18 is 8 18 talks
about if your brother
you got a problem with your brother you
go to them if that didn't work you get
somebody else
that doesn't work you get a group of
people then you know maybe it's time to
walk away
but you know brother too indicates
relationship
so that doesn't mean you you get on
facebook
and you go to someone else's page you
never met and start trolling them and
say you're wrong
you just did this terrible thing you
know here's my idea this is the right
way you're the wrong way
there's no relationship there why are
you talking to me
go away you know i get that a lot and
i'm sure i know you do too with the
christians
who come to you yes i've sent you a few
and it's like usually it's like the
christians who are like
yeah you know it's their christian duty
to tell you that you're wrong
that's a program it's it's a big program
that they
they feel this responsibility to make
sure that you're okay
you know and it's like you know what
remove yourself from the responsibility
you're not responsible for me it's
totally cool if whatever you i'm sorry
that you're concerned
are you really over there stranger
sitting around so worried about me
because
i'm good like bye you know so
but keeping that sovereignty you know
despite
whatever that goes back to the
integration we wrestle not
we we vibrate with or with against
these things and when you're in the
public
you know there's a lot more opportunity
for the trolls and whoever to come think
you know so my decree is only god sees
me
only god touches me only god hears me if
that's my truth
then that means anyone who comes to me
is going to speak to me like god would
hear me like god would talk to me like
god would
feel me like god would you know and i
make that my truth
and that's what i project and i don't
get as much
um except for in my own self doubt and
or
fears but yeah um that can be shifted
it's all shifted
there's another scripture here Psalm 103
i really like this one
kind of talks about the eye gates and
the ear gates but uh
the esv says i will not set before my
eyes
anything that is worthless another one
says uh
anything wicked like i will not set
before my eyes anything worthless or
anything
wicked it says i hate the work of those
who fall away
it shall not cling to me don't cling to
me i'm not gonna leave with it because
i'm
around it so even you're talking about
the movies and stuff like that
and stuff that clings to you you know
worry anxiety fear
doubt you know the stuff clings to your
auric field
um we call it a chords of attachments
you know um you know they call it
entities or whatever that's
like almost uh leaching on you and
sucking your energy off of you and
draining you of your beautiful energy so
there's things that that
that cling to you when you leave a
gossip meeting when you leave
but you know for that to be true right
for the
for the for the uh the wicked and for
the negative stuff
same is true for the beauty and for the
positive
and for those who are encouraging like
that stuff i'ma allow that stuff to
cling to me right
to encourage me you know yeah and i
think
going back to that whole people feeling
like it's their
duty you know that's that's built in
i mean we had like nightly visitation
and all that i'm not saying
don't go do good deeds you know bring
someone food or groceries or whatever
as long as there's not any strings
attached as long as there's not
any well i'll do this for you if you do
this for me
you know it's unconditional means
unconditional
like we should just love people no
matter what not because we have a
mission
to change their mind or to get them
saved or to
you know get them to to do anything it's
everyone is where they're at and i wish
that we could remember as a body of
christ
to what we focus on to focus on our own
self you know seek ye first the kingdom
of god
kingdoms in here and then all these
things will be added unto you
so as we go inward and and
be more worried or concerned about our
be aware of our own heart and our own
self
everything else will just work itself
out you know we don't need to knock on
doors
or do i mean i was the big track person
i did my senior picture
with a track you know the whole
salvation thing i took out a yearbook
page and the newspaper thing you know
here's i'm a senior and also if you want
to call me and get saved this is my
testimony i mean i was like the turner
burn check
i'll give you love jesus i was like the
annoying
all of that and i realized that is not
love
that you we're told it is yeah
and i get i understand like where
they're coming from but it's also like
i'll love you
if uh you know it's conditional which is
the opposite of love of just being
love wherever and radiating love and
one of my decrees is um god is the only
power and and presence here acting here
god is the only power and presence
acting here or
i ignite the christ and everyone i
contact
it's like you don't have to say words
you don't have the push you don't want
the pull
you have to manipulate control you know
none of this stuff give you something
it's just i am already
activating people to christ everywhere i
go whether it's a video or
a an audio from my book or the pages
written
in my books or anything it's i put that
in tension in there to intend means to
tend to inwardly if we were intending
on that in our energy then that's what
we would get
and we would just be popping off people
and activating them with our presence
you know people you know damon and
others
where you walked in and you felt oh yeah
like that person knows god
like that is hands down love on legs
like you feel it on your body
right and hopefully i
long and hope to be and remember that
for me like to be
someone where you are in an exchange
with me and you're like damn
that is like freaking love right there
so you know what i mean
i just that's all i want to do yeah you
brighten up the room when you walk in
versus people
you know debbie downer you know not
wanting to see you or be around you or
or leaving when you come
which i mean it kind of works both both
ways right you know
there's those people that you're you're
too positive so they don't want to be
around you they
they kind of like their you know gossip
and and discord and all that kind of
stuff too so
you know you're going to get both um
scripture says that uh
it says woe unto you when all men speak
well of you for so did their fathers to
the false prophets
so when everybody's talking good about
you you know obviously if they
you know talking down on jesus man you
know who is love embodied
you know they're gonna they're gonna
look down on you too so you know just
kind of
but a lot of times it's because you're a
threat you know
you're a threat to their establishment
what they're bringing to the table
you know you mentioned um um you know
people like
calling calling the churches and stuff
years ago when you when you guys were
going out and doing conferences and
stuff like that like uh
warning people stay away i was just
watching this morning we was watching
the news for a moment and um this lady
locally was was on the news and i i
remember i was supposed to do a concert
like
probably 2015 2014 or something my
friends were begging me to do a concert
it's a christian
outreach and i was like i ain't really
trying to like the lord's getting me
away from the christian like getting me
out of that but
you know but they were begging me and
they were good friends so i was like you
know i'll do them a favor i don't want
to be too stuck up not to come do their
concert or whatever
i was like all right sure i'll come and
uh so they put my name on the flyer
and the lady i seen on the news this
morning she
contacted those people because she was
over the parks the park that
that they were going to the concert and
she said if true seeker shows up we're
shutting the entire
event down and even though i told him i
told my friends i was coming
like the day of i was like hey i'm not
coming i just don't
i told him i got sick or whatever i'm
not feeling well i'm not going to come
and then later on they told me yeah this
lady
you know called up and said that if you
showed up
they're pulling the plug on the entire
event true seekers uh
telling people about jesus and giving
them mushrooms or something some kind of
weird
things like you know you know why don't
why doesn't that lady come to me
or or whatever like like the scripture
says like if you got an ought against
somebody listen come to me
you your pastor whoever you know so
um you you represent a freedom you
represent
something to those people that that
they're not secure with they're insecure
within
their own spirituality or that you're
going to deceive people and all this
kind of stuff and uh
yeah it's part of it it's fear which is
the opposite of love
completely but you know i think
you know just watching what you've done
and the amazing things you've done
that i've seen i mean your music oh my
god i mean that
is a frequency tool to shift people
in their field their minds their hearts
to get people singing
listening here and they're using all
their gates to bring that vibration
up you know and for those who aren't
vibrating there yet
you know there's an integration and all
you can do is you hope to maybe bump it
up a couple
notches until someone else can bump up
something and something can get ignited
you know and
we just keep on seating and
igniting and living and and not taking
it personal you know that's what
i think i struggle with at times
is just like when there's extra
people yeah or just being frustrated
like oh my god like is
anyone gonna wake up you know you know
but
how do you deal with that yeah well i
mean that's a big one i think at first i
took it personal but then when you put
you got to put yourself in
in their shoes and and they're trying to
you know they're
they're just doing the only thing they
know to do you know and so you got to
respect them because they're trying to
take care of their business
they're trying to take care of their
flock you know so um
yeah if you put yourself in in their
position obviously they don't know our
intentions we just got to see what it
looks like so
it it really helped me you know i think
they did the you know
to come full circle like all the the you
know
crap that i got from from my peers and
obviously i wish it would have went down
differently you know but um
but i think that most of them you know
handled it the only way that they knew
and um because you kind of you are a
threat you know here you are talking
about ufos and
and uh mushrooms and and um just
whatever
else and when they've never heard any of
that stuff from a religious
standpoint you know it it's uh it's
pretty it's pretty threatening so
i i had to come full circle but then you
know like you said just
not taking anything personal you know
i'm saying the four agreements
which is huge it's not about you it's
about something that you represent
and i started noticing that like i kind
of it wasn't about me it was about
what what i represent and i'm kind of
like a symbol and
and i represent different things to
different people you know for some
people i'm i'm a heretic
for some people i'm madly in love with
jesus like it just depends on
kind of like what jesus said you know um
who do you say that i am and
and some people say well you're a
prophet some people say you're there
some people say that okay well who do
you say i am
so even that like because of the things
that you're doing what you represent
it's different things to different
people and some people know you
intimately some people know you
uh you know that they see what you're
trying to do you know they know that
your
your motives and your heart and stuff
and then other people
um they don't and you're a threat and
and
you know you your your freedom scares
them because you're free in areas that
they're not
so for you to say i can play with
crystals and heal
people and they think crystals are
demonic even though they don't know that
they're
in the bible like that's you know i'm
saying there's a disconnect there
and so you're a threat yeah they're not
only in the bible
they're in the computer that the person
is using or the phone
the radio that they're using to send the
message
to tell me that i'm a witch because i'm
using crystals it's like dude you're
using crystals every freaking day
you know it's like are you a whip then
okay you guys were all witches but
you know it is it is whatever it is and
i gotta go back and remember and i don't
know anything about mushrooms
so that might have to be a topic that i
learned something about but
um yeah my thing i use a lot of
essential oils
natural health you know i saw that you
posted something
last week and i was like yeah you know
yeah
well i wasn't dealing with coping man
yeah you're like this is the time
more than ever for us to be you know
looking into
keeping our immunity up because that's a
frequency so
um i love that you're kind of your
champion that too because again what a
scripture says whether you whatever you
eat drink or whatever you do
whatever you do do all for the glory of
god it's like
all means all you know everything that
you do
that's a lot of things again i gates
listening who you're hanging out with
you know living true to god you know but
we can raise the vibration just with the
way we're eating
you know like i said you go through
mcdonald's or whatever 10 times a week
you're not going to have the best
results and that brings down the
frequency and
you know the more i detox physically you
know whether it's parasites
or uh you know just switching my diet to
eating you know
clean and organic and you know cleaning
supplies in the house you want to talk
about your gift
being so clear to hear god
and to know what's going on i mean that
is a shortcut
for sure to be clear and to have this
like strength and authority yeah it's
connected for sure
and i think a lot of times in western
world there's like a separation where
it's like
well diets over there and i'm just gonna
pray that god heals me it's like dude
you know
you gotta there's things you gotta do
too i've seen revivals was at lakeland
i've been at the ramp all those places
where
you know we pray and we see miracles and
miracles can be instant
and then also most of the miracles in
the scripture
are actual the word is therapleo which
means
therapy that's where we get the word
therapy from and it's like
therapy is over time conditioning
yourself to make new choices
that actually get your body to do what
it's supposed to over time
so you know you practice a certain way
you eat you exercise you drink more
water
you take some vitamins or some
supplements to help build up
what's missing in your food or you know
whatever the situation is but
even jesus had healings that were not
miracles believe i mean everything is a
miracle every healing is miracle because
the technology is real so if it takes
you
three weeks to get a miracle or one
second to get a miracle
it's still a miracle either way but even
jesus
healings in the scripture except for a
few
were overtime therap theraplaya which is
teaching someone you know through time
to do some new things and
like luke the physician uh you know god
is the great physician but
luke was not writing scripts you know
they were all doing natural things it
doesn't make them witches
you know they were using anointing oil
and you know the stuff that was
in the oil literally has healing
properties to it frankincense and myrrh
and all that like
come on yeah and it said that when they
went two by two
that they couldn't bring a cloak they
couldn't bring a purse
but in the next scripture it says and
they
saw healing through essential oils
through oils if you look at the actual
words uh one by one which i do on a
regular look at the strongs in the greek
you know uh hebrew it's like okay so
they couldn't bring
a cloak in a purse but they must have
had their oils with them because they
were seeing oils oils have frequency
a lot if it's a real oil it's got to be
like a real pure oil with no
chemicals in it you know pharmakia
is diluted with you know chemicals and
other things that are gonna
the word is witchcraft and it's
something that is a low vibe that's
going to get
you know trouble uh and that's where we
get the word
pharmacy or pharmaceuticals is from
witchcraft which is again ironic that
i'm going i want to be a naturopath and
people were like oh my god she's a witch
and i'm like no
yeah quite the opposite you know um even
the word doctor when i got my doctorate
it means teacher so doctors all over
should be teaching people how to not be
dependent
on other doctors or or pastors or
anything but go back to
what's inside and taking responsibility
for our own health our own mindset
our own self-development who we're
hanging out with what we're doing
our own miracles um finances
is a biggie so you know anyway that's
just
yeah but what do you what do you say
about that whole dependence too of like
you know you got to be here every sunday
and sunday night and wednesday
and you know you know if you miss oh my
god
you know and did you run into any of
that
in the past or like early on for sure
it was real weird like like i you know i
wanted to be in church anytime it was
open this is years ago
but uh you know wednesday sunday morning
sunday night
bible study whatever it's like we just
we wanted to be there just because
you know we wanted to be a part of what
god was doing and people you know
learning how to follow the lord and
getting in prayer
praise worship like this stuff so
beautiful you know and i champion all
that
um but yeah i remember like um if you
would miss a sunday
or you know two sundays people act like
you know like you're backslidden you
know where were you at and i remember
just
naturally like i've been the same place
i've always been you know
and i guess it was like one of those
things where it's like you know how like
impersonal it is it's like i only know
you from being
up here you know at church or whatever
versus like
you know i'm saying knowing them that
labor amongst you like the scripture
says like
to know people but you know that that
was something kind of weird early on
and uh and then when you quit going and
then you don't get a phone call from
anybody that that messes with a lot of
people
um so you learn though you know you
learn that um
you know what hurt you or what rubbed
you the wrong way so you learn from
from that and then you try to fix it
through your relationships
with other people so if somebody some
people are in your your
your tribe your core group and then they
quit showing up it's like
you know do you say yeah they're just on
their own spiritual journey just you
know let them do their thing
that's it's tempting to do that right we
want to you know give space but but to
check up on people
hey man just checking up on you you know
love you you know what i'm saying like
if you need anything i'm here for you um
because there's there's a lack of that
especially when there's a lot of people
like people get lost in the numbers you
know so
that's hard for me whenever like you
know we got a lot of people that listen
to the podcast and they're part of the
community and
they're reaching out for time and and uh
council and all that kind of stuff it's
hard to
to meet all those people where they are
you know so it's almost like you got to
chew
pick and choose so um you know having a
community
where other people naturally do that too
like train other people hey
listen reach out to people just give
them a call or
you know just see how they're doing
because people get offended people get
in their feelings and stuff
yeah i don't think people realize how
much
content is set how many emails text
notification you know that we get every
hour
let alone every week and so sometimes i
don't even
see something that somebody right i have
people who help me with myself
i get phone numbers all day you know and
like give me a call
you didn't call me and you you're not
who you say you were i thought you cared
and it's like oh my gosh
like i have 95 of these in the last 10
minutes
and i don't even know who any of them
are yeah
i love all of you and also i i barely
see my mom and dad
yeah it's like i rarely talk to my
husband sometime
when in the middle of all this you know
i got five kids too and i'm running five
businesses and
you know it's like uh it is a little bit
like who
is the part you know where do you you
know
choose how do you choose and that's why
i try to do this kind of stuff like you
is like as much as you can reach many
people at once this kind of stuff yeah
you should get a lot of people who are
watching answer questions
yeah and hopefully help on on a bigger
mass
you know same amount of time but a lot
of people instead of
saying the same thing over and over to
you know i do consultations a lot
but i started running into the same
things where people were like weight
energy sleep
you know hormones whatever so i'm like
you know what here's a bunch of i'm
gonna do
videos on this i did a membership i'm
like you got your answers here just go
there
you know and trying to yeah
just do a video and just knock out you
know two birds with one stone
you know so anybody who's like hey can
you tell me about the third eye is there
a third eye meditation that i can do the
yeah actually recorded one it's in this
video here you know versus like
you know call me and let me explain to
you in text message or whatever
and then um you know we we do that a
bunch with
with community and you know at least
making yourself available not that
everybody would take advantage of it but
those who
who want it those who need it and need
somebody to talk to
i mean that's essentially why i'm doing
this this podcast you know when i was
going through my awakening and
and had questions i jumped on um
blog talk radio and i would just search
for uh
podcasts that that were allowed people
to call in
and i'd call in and i would you know ask
the uh the people
on the show questions you know about
meditation about ufos and
people who studied the stuff and just
was open and honest about their walk you
know
so i was like you know i'm just going to
create something that
that i needed when i was going through
my awakening and i just want to be there
in that in that same manner you know so
that's why you know do the patreon and
we
do small groups and thursday nights and
got a discord community which my
discord's usually up while i'm
you know working working from home and
stuff so
you know just to make yourself available
so but yeah those
calling every everybody i called
somebody yesterday i had a guy reach out
to me and sent me his phone number and i
don't do that anymore
but i was like you know what let me let
me give him a call see what's up
you know um every now and then so
but the thing is like i used to do that
you know when i was driving
i'd be on the phone with people all day
and now that i'm doing this full time
now now i can't
talk to you for an hour about you know
nothing
you know i hate that because people knew
me for that you know what i'm saying
that was a that's how that was our
relationship we talked all day on the
phone and now i'm like
i don't want to answer the call because
i know you're just gonna you know just
ramble and i got i got work to do i got
stuff i got to do now
which you know it's just you know
situations change you know
yeah it's a and it's a boundary issue
protective
energy and also just using what you have
wisely you know whatever you're given
you'll be given more
and um and going back to the whole going
to church
saying you know when when i got people
who are asking me stuff
i'll turn it back around and say what
does your heart say
because you know as far as church is
like way taylor used to say
how can you go where you already are you
know
so you we know the answers it's just a
lot of times
we including me don't stop and like go
inward and say well what is
what is god saying in here you know
because you know i got all the tattoos
this is my stained glass windows right
here and
i got a few others and it's like i'm the
church this is the church
in activation and walking in vibration
and we're all you know a collective
body in in union
you know i'm decreeing and um you know
that's why i like the word remember
to remember means to to read
is to do it again and remember is
us as one you know and not only us as a
collective as one but god
in me mind body spirit soul you know
just
being in that alignment remembering god
and the technology
that god is inside of me and you know i
somebody asked
something yesterday and they were like
well what are you you know blah blah and
i was like
what do you again what does your heart
say well i think blah blah blah i'm like
okay but what does your heart say
you know because they were talking about
someone else well i think she's and i'm
like i didn't ask about her
i'm saying what do you what does your
heart say about this situation
and a lot of times people will steer
right in and they got their answer
you know before you have asked i have
given you the answer
the scripture says so we already know as
long as we're clear and again it goes
back to diet
and clarity and you know the water and
crystals and
essential oils and you know juicing and
you know enzymes and all the things that
we can clear
you know fasting is amazing to get
clarity just because you detox all that
stuff
you know not not having cleaning
supplies in your house that disrupt the
bio field it literally changes the field
yeah and then you're wondering why am i
confused well probably stop using bleach
and febreze and
candles and things that are jacking with
your energy field
to cause you to not be able to think
clearly or have your answers
you know so again responsibility i
promise you
the disciples weren't spraying febreze
wherever they were sleeping
and and trying to muck up their their
field you know
but yeah
well sorry now i appreciate you coming
on hanging out with me really enjoyed
this
conversation and getting to build with
you some more and
um we have to do it again for sure yes
yes definitely i have a few things in
store i'd love for you to participate
and collaborate with and i'm working on
some dates for some things
and i'll definitely be in touch and just
for everybody watching
oh my god um thank you for hanging out
with us today
and if you've never had any interaction
with me before i hope we can continue
this conversation sometime
and uh and those of you who have been
around
thank you for your support and your love
through my process
i'm still in process and uh you know
we're all a work in progress
for sure and let's just keep on loving
and
you know um being loved wherever we go
igniting christ and everyone we contact
and
y'all can find me at swiftfire.org um
that's my website and there's a lot of
resources there and
interviews and different things too that
may help if you get a yes on that and
um you know thank you so much i
appreciate you
so much um well yeah
we'll do it again thank you so much
again and uh and if you guys go to the
website the talk that we did is on there
as well it's on there under the blog
section
and so we had a good talk last week so
make sure you guys go there and check
that out
it was really good so i know thanks for
coming on hanging out with me we'll do
it again
bless you all right have a great day all
right blessings all right bye-bye
dr charnel wolvington ladies and
gentlemen
good stuff man thank you guys for
hanging out uh being a part of the
conversation
and uh i've been sitting here watching
the chat um
here so yep shout out to richie sandan
jv esther everybody hanging out with the
stairs sybil
karen britt christie samuel see all you
guys man thanks for hanging out with me
um got a lot of stuff coming up we're
doing a
podcast um wednesday night we're gonna
have
um karina pataki on she got a new book
out we're gonna be talking about that
the order of melchizedek
and so she's always fun to have on here
and uh love what she's doing what she's
bringing to the table
so make sure you guys stick around for
that wednesday night
and then tuesdays and thursdays as
always we'll keep doing this stuff
um so yeah and enjoyed it make sure you
guys uh
you know take care of yourself you know
everything going on out there with
with uh the pandemic or whatever so make
sure you take care of yourself take care
of your health drink
plenty water get sunlight and um you
know put
put healthy living food within you and
we need it now more than ever
practice breath work all that good stuff
so with that i'm saying peace and shalom
man thank you guys for hanging out with
me we'll do it again
peace peace
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