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um
it would just talk about encounters and
experiences i i get so many emails and
and so many messages from people
telling me about their experiences and
asking me what i what i think about them
so
you know whether they
record them and and send them in or
be able to call in and be able to talk
to people so that's what the power of
the internet is so we get to do that
um
gothic uh maybe we start with you man uh
what are some of some of your
experiences man because
i know
you know the ufo phenomena for you is a
touchy subject
it's something that's you know a lot of
fear have you gotten over your fear of
ufos
for the most part i have for for those
who are listening who don't know my
history um
i haven't really shared too much on my
channel
i had a experience i want to see either
whenever i was six or eight don't know
exactly what happened but basically it
derailed me
for about 25 what 30 years now
and
it caused me to really
originally fear and as we know fear
grows into hate anything has to do with
like aliens ufos anything to do with
that so like literally like that the
movie et i couldn't even i couldn't even
watch it just because of et but now i
own it i own the movie i own and i've
been i've been making these
movements to try to get past this so now
i'm kind of to the point where i'm open
to things
but i don't know if the lord's saying
okay no no you're you're getting there
you're almost there it's just a matter
of time but it's uh
i'm looking forward to seeing something
since i am now an arizonan in kind of
just what a few hours south of the uh of
that four corners area where the
supernatural really is strong oh yeah
yeah because you know i just got back
from arizona and uh there's a lot of
activity dude for sure like yeah yeah
i'm looking forward to seeing something
i remember
uh
it was 2018 when we did that uh that the
first was the worldwide view i thought
for sure i stole something then it was a
player airplane like dang it
didn't we do that
we that's what we did and then we opened
up the phone lines with on christy lee's
show or whatever
that's the first one i don't remember
that
all i remember is that i
i had i was hoping to see something
before i crashed for the night it turned
out to be a an airplane flatten over but
it was still that stepping stone for me
yeah
well um you talk about your fear and i i
thought it was funny
i called you out and it's a cool way to
face your fears because we did the
webinar
with dee wallace the mom from from e.t
the mom who was
the mom from the movie and so we did did
the webinar with her and i was like we
were you know asking questions and stuff
like that and i kind of put you on the
spot
i you know i was like hey um
you know somebody
is suffering from some ptsd because of
the movie and oh what happened so you
got to talk to her about your ptsd with
with e.t and stuff that was funny that
was definitely interesting never thought
that would ever happen like holy crap
i'm talking to mom for me
yeah about my fear of aliens
yeah
it's awesome
but yeah everything comes full circle
right it's crazy yeah
yeah most definitely
so uh yeah i see some comments here
about about people um in the chat about
their ufo
experiences
um
after meditation they had some so that's
interesting so yeah make sure you guys
call in too if you want to share your uh
experiences on air so i want to
definitely uh get you on the air and
share them for everybody to uh
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nice wow
yeah there's been a lot more activity
man with that and then
with synchronicities have been
interesting too i feel like
a lot of that's going hand in hand like
seeing
not just ufos or aliens but but the uh
supernatural
and yes and and seeing you know the the
repetitive numbers and synchronicity and
just some random one yesterday on the
school of the mystics where you know
matthew this guy was talking about um
we were talking about
phantom smelling and being able to smell
things that aren't there you know that's
something that's kind of going around
with covet and he's just going to do
something about that
and then he asked about have we heard
about um
phantom limbs
like somebody who lost an arm or
something but they can still feel like
their arm is there
you know and um
i see i heard i heard about that so he
kind of told us about that phenomenon of
uh you know um phantom limbs
and then literally 10 minutes later if
that there's an an ad for a band on my
facebook popped up called phantom limbs
what
yeah and and i i did the screen share
and i was like dude look at this band
there's a band called phantom limbs
that was a sponsored ad that he just
asked us if we had heard of that
phenomena so
ha strange right
yeah
some
some sometimes that stuff it's like
what the crap
it's like they're listening behind
but still it's just weird when that
stuff happens i have to i have not gone
out for a drive during the night and i
keep on forgetting that
and so i need to do that here soon just
uh just to see if i see something
yeah um
so how so how far are you from sedona
you said you're like four hours away or
about three or four hours away yeah so
that's definitely gonna it's definitely
on my to-do list whenever i get or i get
the chance to kind of get get uh
get more stabilized
but i haven't been up there and oh my
gosh
probably about 15 years or so
sounds alright 15 years
and
i remember i remember
very vaguely mind you but i remember
feeling some feeling that there was
something different about sedona i
always say i didn't know i didn't have
the knowledge i have now and so i want
to go back up there specifically
as a kind of exploration but also as a
research thing just to see if i could
find something
or or find
because i know there are there are
certain areas that that are more
profound with the energy than different
things so i'm kind of wanting to go out
there just to see what i if
i come across something yeah the energy
vortexes or whatever
yeah
yeah that was
it dude it's it's beautiful up there i
like i said we you know we just took our
family vacation and
um took our first trip and
it was awesome you know
so cool
so it saw so much too
that sedona always just
you whenever each time i see a picture
or video of it it fascinates me i'm like
yes
the
area is so much different not even
talking about the the energy but like
compared to other areas of mountains
it's like how do these mountains become
just like stacks of rock not connected
anything else so strange
yeah
yeah well that's where we went to so we
went to um monument valley and there's
just
a lot of people saying those are those
are ancient tree stumps those were trees
at one point you know you got these huge
you know
um
monuments or big you know things of dirt
coming out the ground they're huge
and um
you know i guess they say rain and you
know millions of years of uh um
um
erosion and and all of that stuff kind
of making that stuff for him but
really cool
really cool and interesting and i've got
a video coming out the uh you know i did
did shoot a video while i was there so
um that'll be coming out so i'm in front
of those monuments uh we woke up
for uh sunrise
my wife got me out of bed
it was like
six in the morning and plus it was like
uh
we were like i think two hours behind
too so it was
four in the morning really so we got out
yeah and uh you know caught the sun
coming up with the my like right behind
the monuments
so it made for a pretty cool video so
i've edited most of that i may do some
green screen work on it
and uh yeah
but that'll be one of the first videos
that i drop is going to be the video
from
um monument valley so
sweet
uh
toy george says uh go ahead
no i was just gonna mention about the um
something completely different than what
would been the subject that we're on
okay what you got about how how they how
the sunrise is so much earlier out here
i
do not understand that but that's beside
the point but like it's it's thrown me
off several times
seeing it right you know through the
through the shades
and i checked and it's only six or six
thirty and it's like what the crap yeah
yeah and it goes down so late dude it
was like nine o'clock and the sun was
still up
yeah
because we were like waiting for you
know stargazing and the sun's got to go
down
and um yeah it was like nine o'clock in
the sun sun's still bright what the heck
had to be like 10 30 the sun go down
that was crazy
it's thrown me off several times i'm
kind of i'm starting to get used to it
i've been here for what about just
around a month month-ish
so i'm starting to get used to it but
it's still it's just
weird that it doesn't make any sense but
uh what were you saying about toy george
no toy george here says uh in the chat
um
what's a ce5 because somebody mentioned
paul mentioned uh ce5
and um
mentioned what is it so ce5 is the uh
close encounters of the fifth kind we
know about the first second third and
the fourth kind right fourth kind is you
you go up on an alien ship but you get
abducted or whatever uh the fifth kind
is a new one that was just coined
probably 20 years ago if that
which is where
they don't contact you but you contact
them so the ce5 initiative what i would
say that was like highlighted by dr
stephen greer
james gillan
those two guys uh for sure made it
famous but a lot of other people are are
doing it because of their protocol that
they came up with but they're going out
into
you know open fields and asking for
sighting and essentially summoning or
calling down a ship
or just asking to see one you know and
so uh that's what a ce ce5 is ce5
initiative i've i've done them that's
what kind of
helped to facilitate my spiritual
awakening because once you see them
there's no unseeing it you know um
you know magic and mystery and and also
fear like gothic said like you know it's
scary because you've watched all those
movies you know about abductions and um
you know
these monsters kidnapping you and stuff
and
travis walton and fire in the sky and
all that so yeah there's always like
some programming
in the back of your head listen
television programming these movies are
programs and so
uh once
that you know can give you ptsd
especially from you know having those
encounters and
in your mind linking those
movies so you know so many people early
on were like yeah be careful with the
ce5 thing because you're going to end up
getting a duck
abducted and
you know these demons are going to come
get you when you're opening up your life
to demons and stuff so there's a lot of
uh
a lot of his
fear and hysteria but that's with
anything with the unknown anyway
yeah and you know that just comes with
the territory so
um but you know people are doing it and
having beautiful encounters man down
here on the gulf coast like people um
one of the biggest
sightings that that is recorded in in
history is
the uh gulf breeze ufo phenomena that i
believe dr stephen grill was a part of
and they were there doing a ce5 and
there was all these lights that just
started coming on in the ocean and just
pretty much on the horizon they just
started appearing one at a time and all
these lights appeared and they ended up
saying that that later on that something
um appeared
around them
like a plasma ship
sat down around them is what they
describe it which is really crazy they
said the energy shifted and they could
see like uh the silhouettes of beings
around them and stuff so it was these
ufos that were way out in the ocean that
that everyone saw the news crew came out
and got pictures and video
and then later on they said that
something you know uh descended and they
were in the middle of it so
it's interesting you know
larry
adam says ready to meet uh
where are we saying good uh adam says
i'm ready to meet the 30 plus different
kinds of et beings
to me that'll be a little
much but it's like it kind of makes me
wonder how i would raise how i would
respond seeing something but 30 plus
two
yeah and that's that's probably uh
you know a uh
yeah a soft estimate you know
good night
i know every so often before i before i
moved out west
uh whenever my family would get to get
together uh
me and my uncle would kind of uh
i
he his sense of sarcasm
reminds me of my old co-worker aaron who
connected not me and you it took me nine
months to be able to understand and get
his sarcasm and so my uncles it's like
every so often whenever we're talking
i
i go with it as a kind of a joke at the
same time i'm like are you serious or
are you just speaking in sarcasm
adam's
serious oh yeah i know adam's serious
but uh
but some people's it's like
i can't tell if you're serious or not
yeah
yeah i think that's what they said um
there was so speaking of dr stephen
greer so he uh
you know host the disclosure project and
that was something where he went before
congress
to try to get um back in the 90s i
believe to try to get some disclosure so
they paid for it but they had all these
people who were members of the military
different branches and working for
different places and this whole panel of
people who have had encounters with ufos
and and you know
um eyewitness reports and and and next
level stuff that they were openly
talking about and everybody shared their
experiences and
trying to you know get the government to
admit something and these people worked
for the government and so um
you know they
had this big presentation and one of the
guys on there was saying that there were
30
30 plus uh different races of of ets
that are visiting the planet so
interesting
what's up kind of reminds me
in the kitchen sunrise that day there's
rock less than four weeks now
remember how um
i know that there are some talk about
like some of the sci-fi shows out there
it is almost like a cover or kind of a
play on words or whatever when it comes
to um
some of the
projects that the that the military has
and i know
have you ever watched stargate
no
okay
probably should be one that i watched
right that's my sister i loved
it i loved starting stu probably one of
my favorites but uh i want to say it was
about halfway through it could have been
a little bit early earlier
but they had a they had a episode that
literally poked fun at the show itself
and you know
and
even though i knew it was supposed to be
making fun of uh making fun of their own
self i'm like you are so giving
yourselves away at the same time because
in the show
you know
it it's
written by this other
supposed nut and the uh
in quotations in the show
and uh it was okay this is a top secret
government organization that
travels through wormholes
and
you know it does this whole show i'm
like
so amy you're saying you know you're
making fun of yourself for doing this
but at the same time like
i wonder and somehow or another i don't
remember how how i found out about but i
literally found out
what the
show was based on what air force project
the show was based on
and i looked up and got all the files
worked uh i think i lost it i think i
actually mentioned this to you whenever
we actually made our uh our documentary
last year
but it was just interesting i'm like
okay
and then i'm kind of trying to figure
okay
of the show
how much of the show is just
like loose interpretation versus
playing words of the actual project does
that make sense i know some people are
kind of kind of going to go on that and
yes adam i actually have
a friend of mine actually gave me his
collection of start of uh stargates so i
mean star trek
the next generation you know i think
about four or five seasons of that
yeah
yeah i mean they they hide a lot of this
stuff in in movies and uh
it's fun to find it you know it's fun
yeah to see the stuff and where it comes
from and
you know a lot of technology they say
that the technology we have is
anywhere from
you know they try to one of the early
numbers they do i was
like i'm saying 30 years behind the
technology uh that we have in the movies
that we're a little bit behind but um
but they've also said thousands of years
so a thousand years behind too so
um
yeah i'm
you know i'm saying
like everything that was going on in in
star wars when that was
you know all that came out in the in the
what 80s or whatever
um yeah
yeah they've already had that technology
that's that's stuff that's happening and
then now we have
you know star wars and
uh trump
you know
branding a
um
branch of the military called space
force now we are policing
space you know it's something that just
seems like it was in the movies but it's
always been real they just don't you
know let people know about it so
yeah i don't know they think they think
people are going to panic one of the
excuses early on was that you know that
it would end religion
and religion would would suffer if the
truth came out about uh ufos and aliens
because they're not in the bible as what
other people would say but
religion
has a way of adapting you know yeah so
so yeah they would take a stance and
we know that the majority of christians
you know take the stance that ufos are
you know demonic demonic monsters and
and um and even now with all of the ufo
disclosure coming out
you know there's a there's even more
christians being vocal about
you know these are not from another
planet but they're from another
dimension
the dimension of hell you know
a portal of hell or something you know
and so all these christians are like
scaring people about the ufo and alien
phenomena so yeah
the one thing that doesn't make sense
about that
is that um
if they're from the dimension of hell
that means that hell is open but i don't
want to go i don't want to go off on a
tirade or kind of get completely off on
topic but it's just like they don't
fully understand what they're saying and
they don't
what what's that word i'm looking for
they don't cr i think critically of what
they're saying they're just trying to
explain it all away
yeah
yeah i mean with
as much money as it is in ufology
especially from the christian
perspective christian
teaching on like pastors are teaching on
cern and stuff now you know and
you know they can they can teach on this
stuff and you know i'm saying sunday
morning now but uh yeah you know without
being looked at like like they're crazy
as it was
you know 10 years ago
so
the illuminati and
new world order and whatever now pastors
are speaking on it which
they're reading from the book of enoch
now you know like that's that's normal
yeah for a lot of pastors to quote
you know
which is
crazy
compared to kind of where
where i've seen where we've seen but now
i i haven't come across one yes
but i'm looking forward to it but like
you know i know me you and uh and a lot
of the
what we call
mystics do kind of go to it on a regular
basis and all and basically i consider
it scripture i know some people don't
and that's perfectly fine to each their
own but
i'm still kind of going through all the
different apocrypha so it's yeah it's
just it's fascinating what all is in
there
and and as you
continue to do that research and kind of
figure out
or i don't want to say figure out kind
of a question why was this removed when
this is clearly
you know spirit led
you can feel it but
it's just it's fasting that's that
um
paul wilcox says that uh la marzulli
uh has a new documentary out about them
being demonic yeah
yeah they all um i don't think i've
heard of him before i have to look him
up really no he's like one of the he's
the biggest name in christian ufology
and then marzulli l.a marzulli
i know i actually had a book oh
i actually bought it several years ago i
have yet to go through i think it's by
chuck missler
okay he's a big man yeah
yeah i actually i have
i actually have
the genesis thing uh um
no just genesis and genesis and journal
of him going through genesis i'm gonna
have to see if i can find the book that
i had i bought three years ago based on
aliens and whenever i found out that you
know he was a big proponent of that that
kind of surprised me but now now i
understand more of like
okay
yeah
um
i'm gonna read some of these chats here
let me know if anybody's on the line go
ahead and uh screen the calls i think we
got some callers coming in uh zoo man
says i actually got started
i actually got started seeking knowledge
after reading a christian book called
the new world order written by pat
robertson in 1992. wow
yeah pat robertson he was on his jump
back in the day um
you know with uh
the end of the world you know stuff and
revelations this revelation that him and
uh
probably i'm probably thinking more of
jack van impe
uh but yeah jack van impe was definitely
one that uh that was big on that him and
his wife
rexella um
big end time people
but yeah it's always you know
a book or a movie or
a catastrophe something you know sparks
these uh spiritual awakenings you know
and uh
prompts people to uh to ask those deeper
questions and if you're reading that and
looking into this kind of stuff in 1992
we already know you're a trooper and
you've probably seen and been through it
all you know like like most of us here
you know been in this stuff early on
um i got into a lot of this
you know in probably 2007
2008 with 911 truth and all that kind of
stuff and
hebrew israelite movements and
illuminati and all that kind of stuff so
yeah um
it's cool
good to see you all right good to see
you guys in chat
we got tony waiting for whenever you're
ready uh regarding a ce5 encounter
that's awesome
go ahead and bring them in
all right
hey how you guys doing
tony what's up
man oh
just here in mount shasta watching this
fire
hey that's another energy vortex right
yeah oh most definitely
yeah
been a lot of fires right here around
the mountain lately
wow keep an eye on them
um but i i caught yeah i just
i got the notification and
saw there was a live thing going and i
decided i'd call in because i've been
listening to all your live
broadcasts recently and uh
i thought you thought i'd share a
9
so
i have a friend who had just come back
from
peru
and he had been down
drinking ayahuasca medicine with some of
the ayahuas down there
and he also makes medicine
same kind of medicine accepted
his medicine was derived from mimosa
hostilis root bark
and uh the other part of it was the from
syrian roof
you follow me so far yeah
uh
so
i had just met him through a
mutual sister and i was living in seal
beach at the time and
we were gonna we were looking for a
place to go have a ceremony
and uh
ultimately we ended up in malibu canyon
california at a state park there
and uh
so we drink oh
let me let me back up a little bit
earlier in the week because it took us a
few days to like find a spot we wanted
to do
go to and
and uh
a couple days in you know he's sharing a
couple of ufo experiences with me that
he had had you know
over in uh texas
lubbock texas cap rock canyon he's
telling me about these experiences and
man i'm pretty fascinated and
i've never had any you know i'm open to
i was open to the idea but i never
had anything like that
myself so
um i was still on the skeptical side of
things and i was like man you know that
would be really cool
you know have to see one
and so a few days later we're out there
in malibu canyon
and
it was just the three of us just me and
brother and sister
and we
a small hill in the middle of that
valley
and we're camping out we drink this
medicine and
he was playing this singing bowl he had
a 300 year old singing bowl that was
like handmade by the bomb po people in
in the himalayas
and uh he's playing the theme oh that's
the first time i hadn't even seen a
singing bowl before
and uh
playing the singing bowl and
we had drank the medicine and
this medicine just
just ripped me apart really
super
super intense
literally i was screaming for jesus
for
about three hours
hey hey for some reason you're really
low right now it's like sound sounds
like you're away from the phone
yeah hold on just
can you hear me
yeah
hold on
can you hear me yeah you're good
okay
um
so where was i was screaming screaming
for jesus for three hours right is that
what you say i was man i was i mean it
was just i you know i've had a lot of
medicine experiences
prior to that
um i had never drink any kind of uh i'd
never
orally consumed dmt
uh
with monoamine oxidase inhibitors and
um so here we drank this medicine and
while i'm coming up on the medicine
i was feeling really good and
i just kind of made a comment like man i
could take a whole lot of this stuff
and he was like oh yeah
and uh
give me another dropper full of it
and um within just a few minutes i'm
screaming for jesus for a long time like
i got real
i get really cold it was like the
temperature just dropped 40 or 50
degrees all of a sudden and
i was just freezing just freezing like i
almost almost like i was in hell except
hell was like a
like a place where it's freezing not hot
and
so go through this whole
experience and
come out the other side of it and it's
about 3 30 in the morning i'm just kind
of
just now like starting to like sit up
and
move around and
um
you know like
in a place you know just kind of in this
afterglow and in a place where kind of
want to start talking about
things and
um i went to
i went to get my backpack i was going to
roll a joint
and
all of a sudden
like all of the
it was like it just started like one you
know you know how like when coyotes howl
like one will howl and another one and
another one
and it was
it was like
one and then another another and then it
wasn't just the coyotes it was just like
all the animals and the whole valley
that start going crazy
just i mean it's just so freaking loud
and i live in southern california for a
while and i've been through earthquakes
and stuff and i know how animals
you know they
how they act right before an earthquake
so that's what i thought was i was like
hey guys
i think we're about to have an
earthquake
my friend
who makes a medicine we drink
he pops up
and he says just all nonchalant he says
he says it looks like we have an
unexpected guest
right what what what do you mean
and he says look right over there
and he's pointing out in the sky like
and he was pointing uh to the north of
where we were so like he was um
it was like pointing towards like santa
monica that area
uh tapanga
and um
and i'm looking at this it's a
it looked like a really bright star and
i said well what is it he says it's it's
a ufo
it knows we're here
and it's looking for us
and i'm like what dude now's not the
time you know like
now is not the time
you know like fooling around
and so i'm looking at this thing
and it's sitting there in the sky
and i'm like man it could just be like a
light on a tower or you know like
you know what could it be a plane
because like lax was in that direction
too it's like could it be a plane like
i'm really scrutinizing it and
and it's just really bright i mean you
can kind of tell it was in the
atmosphere it wasn't like outside the
atmosphere was just like it you know it
was
could have been a light on a tower
and i'm looking at it really hard and
all of a sudden
it just shoots off like to the to the
left just super i mean from a standstill
to
i don't even know how fast it was like
just so fast
which was not anything like what i had
you know i wasn't expecting that at all
so it was like all of a sudden you know
here's this thing i
never seen anything move like that
before
and um
it makes its way around because it
started off really fast and then it had
slowed down
and it was just making this big
arc right like a because it was
probably five miles out at least
and it makes this big huge arc and this
thing
as it's getting closer to us about
halfway between where it was and where
where we were
you could tell that there were three
lights there were three lights in a
triangular pattern
and uh
it was just getting closer and closer
and i don't know whether i should
run
or
hide or
or sit still or what i mean it was kind
of one of those like unnerving like
what's about to happen right now
i mean are we about to get abducted is
it going to stop like i'm just kind of
freaking me out yeah
and
so just it comes closer and closer
and
this craft whatever it was was
at least the size of a small grocery
store right
just a big huge triangular like a
equilateral triangular craft
and it's
it's it's going no more than 10 miles an
hour and it's at a low altitude i mean
it was so low i could have threw a rock
and hit it
and it just goes by and it didn't make a
sound at all just all you could hear was
just the wind you know just passing
through the air
it didn't stop it just kept going but it
was one of these
i got the distinct feeling that
you know
being
having tryptomine compounds
in the brain
and the brain being a receiver and a
transmitter that
somehow
whoever remaining these crafts have a
way
of picking up on those signals
and
perhaps that was a reason why it showed
up because it was like what my friend
had said right when he spotted it was
that it
you know it what it was and it's looking
for us
and that it knew we were there and this
thing just flew straight over the spot
we were i mean like directly above head
so
anyways that's my story yeah wow that's
crazy man so you saw it at first it like
flew away then it came right above you
guys
yeah it was pretty far out in the sky
and it it just shot off really fast
and uh at some point it had just slowed
down and when it
it was just
it was approaching very slow i'm saying
it never
the speed never really changed after
that first
after it first took off and then it
slowed down and it just stayed at that
pace and it just was just kind of slowly
creeping up you know this thing just
flew right over like almost as if to say
you know hello
we're here we're real
you know because i mean earlier in the
week i was like man it would be really
cool to see something like that and then
next thing you know there's there was
one
yeah
that's awesome dude
that's awesome that stuff will change
your life man when you have an encounter
like that you know
it seems like you were you you was on
the uh the roller coaster because you
had all the emotions you went to hell
then essentially went to heaven a
beautiful blissful experience i guess
yeah for sure it definitely uh
yeah yeah it definitely
um
i'm no longer a skeptic you know like i
don't
know exactly what to make of it other
than the fact that okay
there are
interdimensional or extraterrestrial
beings that
are present here with us
i didn't get the sense that
these beings were malevolent in any way
because if
they wanted to be they could have been
i'm not certain
um
but it it gave me a good feeling like
okay you know there's there this is a
real thing and
um and everything is okay like we're
i i get the sense that yes we have
allies that are um
they're they're benevolent beings that
are here kind of like keeping an eye on
things that you know
as
to
protect us from ourselves in a way
yeah
yeah i think so i think that uh we've
been talking about that a lot lately
that they're just
see seem to be watching over humanity
they've been here since the beginning
but they i think they're limited in what
they can do as far as our um
evolution you know they kind of with
that with our affairs you know
yeah well um
there are certain universal laws that
are in place that they observe
and honor and
you know for for those of us that
consent to being contacted
then that contact can be made but for
the greater whole
of
humanity and societies uh
you know
they don't have that consent so it's
like they would be
they would be violating our free will if
they were just to just
uncloak their ships and everybody saw it
it could be psychologically damaging i
think to some people so
yeah
i think that's why they you kind of stay
in the stay in the shadows or whatever
you want to call it they just you know
but i have been contacted
multiple times since then like in
different ways
yeah it's
life-changing man
um you know no you don't really hear the
term of
abduction or abductee people call
themselves contactees and experiencers
now you know because they have these
these beautiful experiences and
um
i know um
travis walton from from fire in the sky
right the uh person whose
you know story that that movie was
based off of um comes back now and says
that his encounter was was pleasant you
know that they were trying to help him
because
um he got too close to the ship when it
powered up and so they had to
help resuscitate him and all that kind
of stuff and that's why they picked him
up on the ship
um
so
a lot of those scary
yeah you haven't heard that
no i hadn't heard that that's the first
i've heard of it and i definitely
watched that movie when it came out so
i'm familiar with the
familiar with that
yeah
i see them hanging out here sometimes uh
here mount shasta i see them
there they they i actually have some
video footage of of one that stuck
around for a little while the first time
i ever
um
got photos or
a video footage of it you know it's kind
of
strange
like yeah crazy looking like merkabah
type
craft
like i was able to change the shape of
the camera
was it changing shape and stuff or
um well i have a canon camera it's not
like a super fancy one but it does zoom
in pretty good
and um you know this it was the same
kind of thing a bright light out there
in the sky and i'm looking at the you
know there's no stars or planets that
should have been right there at the time
and so i'm zooming in on this thing and
and my footage is a little bit shaky
because like i'm trying to hold it still
um
but it's like the slightest movement
changes it but yeah this thing uh
it looks like in the zoomed in
and the zoomed in footage it looks like
a there's a membrane around the outer
outer it almost looks like a cell it
looks like a scent with a membrane and
it has like a
hexagonal shape
inside of it and i could see that there
were these
darker they were
they were
they weren't light lit up or anything
but there were these like
things that were coming up from
underneath it and they were poke pop
poking up against the outer membrane
they would just like kind of bounce
against it and then go into it
and it was just you know it was just
like again and again and again like that
thing that's not a and it would just sit
there it sat there i waited all the way
until the sun
came up because it was that you know it
was
it was two or three in the morning when
i first saw the thing and all the stars
and the moon and everything are going
across the sky and this thing's just
still sitting there
the same spot
and pretending like it was a star
yeah um
yes
so they're definitely here
if anybody has any doubt
yeah i've seen i've seen some footage of
of literally what you're explaining
there's there's footage of similar stuff
on the internet for sure that looks
looks just like that membrane and and uh
almost looks like something from metroid
do you remember
one of the the little guys do you
remember that game
yeah it was i remember something from
metroid looking looking similar to that
too
um but yeah there's there's footage of
of uh
those type of ships for sure
right on right on well man uh i really
appreciate the work you do um
well you and i have a mutual friend
richie
yes sir
he was staying with me a few months ago
and turned me on to your music and nice
then i subscribe to your channel and
been kind of following along
oh yeah that's what's up man richie's a
good guy man
he is a good guy um
earlier the the
caller before like
was talking about like star wars and
star trek and
how um
how
a lot of
metaphysical truths are
infused into these movies and they're
they're
um
put in the setting of this fictitious
story but it's actually real
and i know this to be i know this to be
the case because uh
my grandfather he was a metaphysician
and um but he's also an author he's a
science fiction author
he was explaining to me that
um
you know
the hierarchies
in the
universe
are infused into these stories as to in
to
warm humanity up to the idea
of
of these hierarchies you know so
ascended masters and stuff like this
nice guys just like lord with a nebula
and
you know there's different kinds of um
characters in a in a story
so there are definitely a lot of that
like uh john carter you know edgar rice
burroughs and
some of these other authors they you
know they
that's what they were doing with their
stories
yeah yeah if anybody ever watches the
movie john carter that stuff's actually
real
um
yeah that's a good one yeah
yeah yeah it's pretty good well one of
the ones you know that always does it
for me was something we talked about a
while ago the book of enoch
and um you know the book of enoch when
when uh i remember when um
uh transformers came out the movie and
the name of the movie was rise of the
fallen
and in the plot and
where the tran the evil decepticons were
in these in chains of darkness and uh
buried in the earth and under under the
ocean and things like that and all of
that was straight out of the book of
enoch it's almost like plagiarism like
they ripped the book of enoch out and
just changed the names of these
characters you know and so all of the
ancient texts and ancient mysticism and
um
stuff it's just being regurgitated and
recycled for sure you know it was it was
written down somewhere and and i think
the more digging that you do you can
find it uh in in some ancient holy books
for me it's the bible like i like to
tear the bible apart and finding all
types of cool like mysticism in the
bible that that or like i'm saying
spirituality that was
you know that we've given away or
whatever but it's like man that stuff's
even in in the scriptures man you know
they you're saying that
you know this book doesn't have that
stuff in it this book is is uh you know
against those things is like no this
book is full of magical magic and
mystery and ufos and and entities and
telecommute telepathic communication
like ufos it's full of all of that man
you know we see that stuff just
sprinkled through the movies you know
well you know
you know
jesus
yeshua
when he would teach he would teach in
parables yeah and uh the parables and
like
all these other teachings in all the
other in all the wisdom traditions right
uh they they there's both the exoteric
and esoteric
so the exoteric uh the exoteric is for
the layman the common people
the esoteric is for those that really
can read between the lines and pick up
on these subtle
secrets
that that are there
that
people that are seekers
you know it's not just these simple
moral
uh more morals of the story and stuff
like that there's like actual hidden
meaning there for uh if you know if one
has a the mind
you know if one's crown
is uh is open enough to pick up on these
these subtleties
so like
and that's i mean the bible is
definitely
full of it the whole book is
yeah it's an esoteric manuscript but
here what we have what we see today
uh as the you know the just the common
christian teaching
fundamentals christian christian
teachings
is all exoteric
they're not really they're kind of
closed off to the mysticism so it's like
this you know all this mysticism and
supernatural stuff is kind of just left
out of
i was like well you guys are missing out
on like 90 of this whole entire
teaching yeah
and so then that's
why we have wars and people who
disagree so much about
their religious beliefs
taking it literal man
have you read any have you read the keys
of enoch by j.j hertek i have not
have not
you mind if i read you something go
ahead
all right
um the melchizedek brotherhood
the keys of enoch by j.j hertak the
brotherhood was defined as the earth
spiritual guardians
the hierarchy guided thus
lord sananda known in this life as
jesus and joseph and later as jesus the
christ
heads the healing legions
of brothers the archangel michael
heads the warrior legions together
they are called the paradise sons
the warriors cut the tongues and the
healers bind the wounds
so does spirits support us in our
healing and on our individual path to
ascending gracefully into the higher
realms
the brothers
are also the scribes for spirit keeping
keepers of the akashic records they
perform perform diverse functions of the
divine plan
and include many levels of spiritual
awareness
the ascended masters
form the higher energetic layers of the
brotherhood
and yet they speak as we indeed if all
is one then they are all interrelated
vibrational essences
any need for individual identification
is as a result
of of our dualistic views and
preconditioned thinking
to them we are all one including us
melchizedek history from various sources
melchizedek eternal lord of light the
sovereign of light
is in charge of organizing the levels of
the heavenly worlds of yahweh
for transit into new creation
co-equal with metatron and michael in a
rescue regenesis and re-education of
worlds going through the purification of
living light
melchizedek is a manifestation of the
son of god
in the history of a planet melchizedek
was commissioned to prepare the true
priesthood of sonship upon a planet for
echistological participation
with the sons of light
enoch said
the order of the elect of the order of
melchizedek are sons of light who have
chosen to come into the world of form
and manifest the sovereignty of yahweh
in transmuting the earth
they work
in implementing the truth of god and
occasionally even show themselves as a
visible order
administering to man through the
merkabah
so that the archaeotectonic models in
the heavens can be built on the earth as
signposts to the many levels of the
universal creation
it holds the keys to the opening of the
heavens with respect to the contact
areas on the earth
and has the ability to commune with the
celestial communities of the brotherhood
of light throughout the father universes
coordinating with the
coordinating with the work of the christ
in the heavens and on the earth
the order is eternal and has four
ordained its priests and programs before
the world was
in the history of the planet the order
of melchizedek has existed in a small
ban
in a small family communities of priests
scientists and poets scholars who have
faithfully attended to the word of god
they administer the gifts of shakina
affecting the mental physical and
spiritual states of existence
the priesthood is visible within every
generation as a scattered brotherhood of
light so as to permeate the tree of the
human race with the anointing power of
the light needed to reawaken and
resurrect the righteous seed
into the light of the higher world
there the sons of truth behind
historical wisdom
holding the keys to the true history of
the planet and the true genealogy of the
adamic people
according to enoch the sacred library of
their priestly documents
were moved from the temple in jerusalem
into the desert areas such as qumran
to preserve their records until the end
of time
when the sons of light as the order of
melchizedek will return to the earth to
unite this gathered scattered
brotherhoods of melchizedek and
establish the kingdom of god with jesus
who is the eternal son and high priest
after the order of melchizedek
moses had the keys
to the priesthood of the light
revealed to him by god before the
creation of the world
when he came to earth he was anointed by
the priesthood on earth as a righteous
recipient of that light
which had been passed on from noah
and his generations to abraham and from
abraham to jethro and then to moses
and that's it wow
that's awesome man i haven't even read
that um where are you reading that from
right now like i know you're reading the
book but you have a physical copy or is
it online or
um actually i'm reading it from a link
um
i'm reading it from it's a wordpress
document
um
oops well yeah i'm just saying because i
can't find that book anywhere less than
200 bucks
oh wow okay well um
let me see i will uh i will
i will put the link
in the chat
awesome
i appreciate that yes uh
i'm looking it up now and uh
the cheapest one is it's 200 bucks and
that's cheap the rest of them are way
more
the book of knowledge
the keys of enoch
i think i actually have all three i i
just haven't read the other two yet
it's the uh it's the it's the white book
with the uh
the seven rays on it
the seven rays like the uh
um
it says yahweh on the on the cover and
there's hands with
rays of healing coming down
yeah
it has to dove the holy spirit
yeah let me see i'm gonna
so it was
the second edition came out in 1982
but yeah it's expensive i guess it's
rare
interesting uh i used to have the book
myself uh but it kind of got
you kind of got lifted
yeah i like i like uh collecting um rare
books so that's a new one
yeah 200 bucks yeah you should check it
out
if you can get your get your hands on a
copy of that there's another one called
the pistache sophia
okay yeah i've heard of that one for
sure
yeah i i'm posting that link right now
all right i appreciate it i uh tony man
thanks for calling in and sharing your
story bro and it's good to meet you man
yeah likewise man we'll keep in touch
all right sounds good brother many
blessings bro thank you
shalom take care
right
all right that's awesome
next we got we have a
cat
she has uh apparently you've talked to
her before and it's been been a couple
years okay
cat welcome to the show what's up
hi i haven't talked to you i i called to
say hi and i did have a few little
experiences i was
talked about too but i
it's been years it's been a long time
since i've talked to you
live
yeah this is cat dougherty
yeah awesome good good to hear from you
you too i usually like i'm shocked i've
been trying times about talking
like this but i'm getting better
i and i i know you years ago you prayed
for me for a place to live and i have
had a place the last three years awesome
you know i
i ended up with cancer again diagnosis
again last year but i've been on like a
cleansing fasting well a whole journey
with that but i'm
finally finding a protocol that i think
is where i want to be
awesome as well
and all that maybe i'll
maybe i'll see more stuff as i'm
cleansing more and more
but i um hope you're doing all right
yeah doing good obviously you seen i had
uh covet so we're i'm doing better today
i'll say that i'm doing me and my wife
are both doing better um able to get
more more breathing in our lungs and
take deeper breaths today so yeah
yesterday in the last couple days were
scary you know so yeah we're doing good
today for sure
well i i know we won't i won't get into
all that on this but there i've i've
been using like my whole protocol
there's a nebulizer that i use and i
i nebulize this folding blend and
silver and that is something you should
look into
okay yeah a lot of people have been
saying that for sure
okay and i like i know i've said dr
detox but that's who i'm following and
he's got some amazing products
and
opening a healing retreat center in
mexico as i'm hoping to get there
awesome
yeah yeah but i
i had like
three things that were very like visual
and physical
and then i mean i always like see little
things fill things see things in the sky
but um
i think it was
three or four years ago i actually
decided to go to oh you know a month
before i went to the beach i
was at on somebody's property and i had
taken mushrooms and was laying out
looking at the sky
and me and another
person i was with saw ufo fly over her
head and we were looking at the sky and
you could see you know okay things
looked a different color and that's an
airplane but it looks funky
and it we both stood up and said you see
that yeah and it's like it's stopped and
hovered over us
full-on face um
ufo
did a zigzag and flew off but we both
thought so that was interesting and then
a month later i was at the beach decided
to
burn my dreadlocks i had been sitting in
a box for years
and
i saw shape-shifting sasquatch
like it uh i was like in between the
beach in the woods where i was at nobody
was there the full moon
my friend went to
the hotel and i was all by myself and i
saw a
flat a dark figure it turned into
sasquatch i got scared and it dissipated
so thought was interesting with the ufo
sasquatch
wow phenomena
do you think they're related do you
think that's do you think that sasquatch
is uh
some type of interdimensional right you
say you've seen something
uh shape-shifting to it
the one i saw was definitely yeah
i think it was
yes yeah and then i mean i i lived in a
old house in north carolina that was
from the 20s and i used to see
i'd wake up seeing things like creatures
and
weird
phenomenon
and i got shaken out of bed by a
apparition like
literally felt
grabbed my leg foot and shook me out of
bed and i think they were trying to tell
me she was trying to tell me something
like an older lady that i did have that
often
as well but
wow
yeah i
i have i have a friend
here in oregon who sees everything he
can talk to beans you can talk to people
across over and he
has a ski on machining he happens to do
energy work but he sees everything i'm
hoping i'll get get to that point where
i feel
more visual like that but i definitely
always feel
i feel uh still things yeah
yeah i mean
that's what i'm i'm big on like you know
there's so much that we get to see and
we get to kind of like
you know visit their realm you know
through meditation and breath work i
mean there's so many cool
cool tools that we have you know dmt and
psilocybin you know so we can kind of
peer into that realm
but for me i the the cool stories is
when they peer into ours you know when
they when they pop in and we get to see
them like the sasquatch or the ufo or
the ghost and the paranormal you know
those
those experiences for me prove the
existence of the afterlife you know
oh definitely and i well
and i used to have more ufo dreams i
don't remember my dreams all the time
and i don't i haven't had any that i
remember as completely but i used to
have a lot of them
when i was younger and
like probably in my 20s and 30s but not
so much lately but now i've been almost
like i've just did my third water fast
i'm on this water fast but it has
supplements like i never thought it i
never i've done so many fast but i
couldn't really stick to just the water
but just supplements in it it's really
really taking me to another another
level i did a six a nine and a six and
then it's like three or four or five
days coming off so
that's a big one but
that's what i've been on every two
months so i've done i just got finished
with my third one
yeah we did um
i did a three day fast a three day of a
five day fast i wish i would have stayed
and did the whole thing but i felt so
good after the three days the three days
was amazing too like
yeah
well that's what he said after you get
the third after you get through the
third day that's when your stem cells
start producing so that's when it gets
easier
yeah
it was true i was feeling so good
afterwards i didn't even want to eat you
know i was like
that's how i feel and then when i eat
i'm like oh that's right i'm i'm like
fourth day coming off and i just started
eating today and i'm like oh i can still
remember
it's very weird just coming back from
like i stay away from people mostly and
then coming back to
talk interacting with people and food
and digestion and all those things yeah
so somebody somebody uh in the chat says
uh i guess they have a question about
the fasting they want to know what a dry
fast is do you want to explain the
difference
oh no i'm not i'm doing a water fast um
i'm following the protocol with the
soccer detox which means daryl wolf
where i'm doing um actually it's
structured water
very specific one
which i don't i i you know some people
do go to that drive fast but i like to
stay hydrated so with this i'm doing
it's structured water yeah and then i
have these full acid supplements but
yeah there's like several supplements
that you can add in
and a few essential oils you can do
lemon
orange and cinnamon essential oils in
the water but that he's really big on
the structured water and i i never i
bought a little portable structured
water unit
i've never had that before and
this is definitely i've done just fruit
and i've done where i was mostly not
drinking water and just a few hours of
eating and i got dehydrated on those so
this i don't know yeah you know i like
this
i like this a lot
is one of the i've been able to stick
with after years i've tried everything a
million supplements and
different diets and fast and this is
finally where i really am convinced i'm
actually my camera's about to drink me
in just a few months of doing this my
tumors are shrinking so
and then seeing results
definitely
that's awesome yeah dude you're f yeah
finding what works for you and uh
sticking with it man we're especially
where you're getting results so
that's awesome yeah i mean
yeah because i mean i sure i did two
weeks of fruit only and yeah my skin
looks good and it's not but
in the internet and i do intermittent
too but i still get the water i think
it's i don't like the getting dehydrated
i mean i know people go extreme and do
the dry fasting with nothing
and work their way up to that and
can
do that probably could be beneficial but
then you get
i get for me getting dehydrated
yeah
yeah yeah for sure
well thank you for calling in and
sharing your story and uh checking in
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yeah thank you
i will be listening
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gothic you uh
yeah
you seen the book did you google it do
you know which one it is because i've
seen that image everywhere like from the
front of that book i have not but i do
know that i actually have two different
copies of the three books of enoch
do you if you have that copy i'll buy it
from you for for like 40 bucks
[Laughter]
let me grab the two that i do have give
me one second
yeah dude like it's uh the cheapest the
cheapest copy
is 200.
um
and i'll see if i can um
share this on the screen here for the
those of you who are watching who can't
go away those of you who are listening
on the podcasting apps you won't be able
to see it but so there's the book there
most of you if
you've done any any googling of images
and books you've probably seen this
image i'll make it bigger
so it's got the so this one's this one's
got a different name of god on the front
that's interesting
i'm assuming that's the name of god i
don't know what that is
the other one
the other ones have different different
names
um
interesting
before so the other one has uh it says
yahweh this one says i don't
kofi
something greek i don't know interesting
but it could be the different keys right
so
um i think there's there's three
different keys of enoch i believe
so
you know i've always thought that those
keys of enoch were like
like occult saturated with like magical
spells and stuff what am i thinking of
with enoch
i notice i know solomon right like uh
the keys of solomon maybe you were
thinking about like the keys of solomon
or something like that which i have
maybe that's what you're thinking of
yeah
okay i found one of the actually this is
one of the books i i was using and
reading from uh whenever i was doing
that thing with
kenny
the books of enoch
first second and third
so
i'm not even sure if i have the book
that he was reading from
so uh c truth uh says is that the elohim
i guess you're asking about what's on
there so
i think that is the seven rays of light
um
which is a concept that i feel like
blavatsky came up with
um she might not have like not now could
it could be alice bailey uh some
somebody else out of her camp but the
seven rays of light and there's
different different um
i guess let's see what would be the
easiest way to explain it probably do
you want to pull up a definition for me
of of of the seven rays just to explain
it um
for definition but i i would say that
they're they're different
personifications
of the one light um
and people type i've been raised
seven rays of god yeah
all right the seven words of god the
concept has appeared in several
religions and esoteric philosophies in
both western culture and in india since
the last six
it went that i got pulled up
and um okay in the last six
in that in
since at least the sixth century bce
they are also known as
that's a word i haven't seen before
shohans johanns
c-h-o-h-a-n-s
or angels from heaven
that's like the first lineup from
wikipedia and that's seven races god
yeah alice bailey is the uh
the author of that
interesting summaries of god well this
has seven rays of life
interesting oh i've always heard that
seven rays of light
it's almost like that you know that
scripture where it says i'm the way the
truth and the life
some people say well i'm the way the
truth in the light is it light or life
like you know i always get
mixed up on that
um
seven rays seven scrolls seven chakras
adam starseed says
and um
which yeah gaia has a lot of stuff
um
the gaia channel has a lot of stuff on
on the seven rays they got so much stuff
but
i'm honestly i'm a novice to a lot of um
you know i know a little bit about a lot
of stuff um but i am kind of stepping
into getting a little bit deeper into
maybe some blavatsky
and alice bailey and some of the other
uh
people who uh brought western
spirituality over here and kind of made
uh mysticism popular if you will and uh
she's one of the the names
that was affiliated with um
lucious trust and everything so
um
so
the teaching on the seven race can
enable all true servers to work with
greater skill and effectiveness in their
chosen field of activity as alice bailey
wrote a study of the raise will mean
that we shall have a practical method of
analysis whereby we can arrive
at a
right understanding of ourselves as in
in seouling entities and that a wiser
comprehension of our fellow men
so it essentially sees
kind of like
personifications like which ray that you
are incarnated in and what is your kind
of like uh
life's purpose is going to be in one of
these rays or whatever um
let me see if there's a list of the
seven rays
rays list um
let's see
alice bailey's
i've read them before um
and so it's from theosophy so the first
is
the first ray is the ray of magic
or the will of the magician
second ray
they all say magic
fifth way magic of alchemy
magic of bhakti yoga hasa yoga astrology
raja yoga ceremonial magic
um
now this is from cw ledbetter though i
don't know
yeah
so the uh that picture
uh the book that you that you were
showing earlier uh i found one on amazon
the book of knowledge the keys of enoch
goes for like
crap goes for almost 500 on amazon
but like
it's like 350.
479 yeah buy that for me man
[Laughter]
i'll have to admit i am intrigued but
it's a good night
yeah um so here's i think this is
this is another concept of the seven
rays because like i said the first one i
just read didn't sound right first ray
power of god second wisdom of god
third love of god fourth purity of god
fifth truth of god six peace of god
seventh of freedom of god
and i guess there's different
wisdom
master that is
associated with that so anyway it's a
whole philosophy
um
there's a good song called seven rays by
conspirituality where they kind of talk
a little bit about it in that so that's
one of my
one of my favorite albums is the con
spirituality album and they have a song
called the seven rays so i gotta
sprinkle that out there for you guys who
needs some new music if you haven't
heard that that's one of my that's
freaking inspiration for me
um
for sure
um see truth says many christians would
consider this theosophical thought as
satanic
me yeah those same christians
you know
anything outside of their realm of
thinking is satanic you know so yeah
you gotta
you know you gotta be able to look at
the information for what it is
you know and then and then call it
satanic
you know so again i'm i'm of the mind
now
of like and i've always been but when
people are doing research and studying
and christians will tell you not to do
this
because the very f you know because
you're gonna make have to make an
assessment
um but when you're doing your research
most most christians
you know you you research stuff against
it
you know again just with it with the
alien stuff like you know
l.a marzulli got a book about how aliens
are demons boom hands down book is
closed that's it they're demons okay
cool read it read it all you want you
got i'm sure he's got some great
information in there i'm sure he brings
some some uh some truth to the table in
it but for you just to read all of his
books about aliens or demons and the
other christian guys that say aliens are
demons listen if you really want to know
the truth and you really want to get it
in you're going to have to go and listen
to somebody who's not biased who doesn't
write books called aliens or demons
you're going to have to
go read a dr stephen greer or david
wilcock or or somebody else so
you know instead of somebody's opinion
of of a
circumstance or situation
go straight to
the source
most people aren't going to do that
because you you know you're warned to
stay away from it you you're told that
you may get converted or you may lose
your soul
but the true fear is that you may start
reading that stuff and then
it may convert you you may be open to it
right i mean i know that's that's been
my story and yours gothic i mean
there's i know a lot of stuff that
you've been you were probably scared
you know getting into
and now you you you know you appreciate
some of the stuff that that you've
learned and i know you've kind of
studied it as from a christian
perspective like have you seen that to
be
true with your story like you went
maybe to to prove it wrong or to to you
know i'm saying debunk it and and you
started reading and you're like oh wow
this is this is awesome you know
more along the lines of kind of out of
curiosity you see their perspective
and there are aspects that
i still throw out like okay i can see
where they went wrong but others it's
like
well that's interesting i can kind of
see can you kind of not but at the same
time
just
i know i say interesting a lot but it is
it's and uh
i think it's kind of where you whenever
you're
reading the stuff and thinking on this
stuff
trying to see their perspective but also
kind of
how where
my current foundation with you know what
the word is and and what they're talking
about that's kind of where
where the language is drawn by okay
my current understanding of what the
father you know tells me of you know
whether or not something is good
or or just to throw it out
kind of that's that's where the line
gets drawn i'm like okay am i willing to
like for different magic books whether
like okay am i willing to
put any of this stuff into practice for
him or his father saying read it
don't do the stuff
but taking but
take it in as uh as information
yeah i mean
[Laughter]
so you like reading books about
summoning
summoning beings or like and then you
start doing them
no
summoning those entities
i can't lie i mean i mean there's
you know
that stuff's all in my i
depending on the entity you know what
i'm saying like
yeah if it's if it if this is an
invocation to summon
michael if this is an invocation to
summon gabriel therefore your mind has a
beautiful positive connotation with
association with with gabriel right a uh
benevolent
entity that's here to help you know so
yeah you would you know you may let your
guard down
you know by asking for assistance or or
reading an invocation or whatever um
versus
how to you know summon the seven spirits
of hades or something you know what i'm
saying yeah really
like for me like one example and this
happened probably a couple years ago it
was around christmas time
i had i had gotten my hands on
uh book thicker magic of amber mel the
mage i'm like okay i'm curious
i don't plan on doing this stuff but
like you know i was just curious and so
i grabbed it i was gonna i was flipping
through the book
and
our old friend eugene
randomly uh messaged uh like just sent
me a random text
as i was like landing on this certain
page and i was actually on the phone
with amanda at the time
and so it was the crazy like you can't
make up the synchronicity yeah i'm
looking at this i'm looking at the book
and like this system is crazy and and
next thing you know i get this text from
from eugene
talking about gematria
and then
somehow i just knew
that the system that was in this book
the magical square system
goes off the whole idea of gematria i'm
like
there's no way that human you know
human-wise you can't make up
the you know the the perfect timing of
some of this stuff so i'm like i knew
that the lord wanted me to get that book
just to kind of read it and and
research maybe not probably not to
actually do the
the the
stuff because yeah you know just to do
uh the amber mill and zang takes like
six to nine months or maybe even 18
months and it's like very demanding from
what my research has shown but still
it's like
you can't make up the stuff that you
know the the events that happen it's
just crazy
yeah
yeah i'm man i
i love it you know i love it i i don't
know
um
i don't know what it means
i don't even know
you know
if the information is what you're
supposed to look into probably right
yeah you know probably
um but like some of it gets it's too
weird i mean even just the you know the
one we kind of opened up today's talk
about you know just the
the um phantom limb like that's a random
phrase
and you hear it
literally in you know i'm saying minutes
of each other somebody says that the cia
is listening you know it triggered that
ad that you know that's a possibility
but some of it yeah that's a possibility
with that one but
you know someone is listening
you know if you want to say god's
listening or the angels are listening or
everything is listening yeah you know um
uh i mean i've had you know
synchronicity is crazy
yeah i think it's insane like this weird
stuff that it doesn't always make sense
but
when it does it does you know as far as
like if it's a book you're contemplating
getting or
you're going to turn left or turn right
boom and then it's you know there's
had those stories i mean
something wants you to know you know we
that was the round table we did a couple
weeks two weeks ago
and
everyone's having it everyone's
increasing christians are asking the
question you know um
what what are angel numbers you know
because they they're led to these
Numbers 333 11 11 444 you know they
don't know what it it means but they're
seeing them like crazy and so
you know what i'm saying so we gotta at
least explore it you know not saying
we're experts or we know exactly what's
going on because we don't
oh yeah
i still remember the
it was again a couple years ago i had
just gotten that book based on uh
astrology and you know looking at the
the constellations tied to
um like
christian stuff um i can't i have to
grab the book but i'm like reading
through it what you know of how
the consolations is based on like the
story of jesus basically
and
one portion
the the word translates in hebrew by
unicorn and then like liter i'm like
reading in my mind
no human way that this could have you
know that this
could have happened
i'm reading in my mind and all of a
sudden my roommate comes or housemate
comes up to me she's like look what my
boyfriend gave me for uh
sent me for christmas freaking a box
black box with pink unicorns i'm like
what the freaking egg how is this
possible
yeah
literally seconds after i read unicorn
i'm like this isn't this is not possible
yeah
yeah i want to i want to do i know we so
we did the round table just kind of
discussing yeah synchronicity and what
is it and maybe something's trying to
get our attention something from the
other side that that the the only
you know the only power they have is to
move and shift things here and there and
and um and they're trying to communicate
from the other side i mean we've watched
those movies of like
you know someone dies
and they're trying to yell at you but
you know you can't hear them you may
they may yell and you may feel wind you
know you may walk in a room you may walk
through them and your temperature drop
but you you don't see them there you
don't know what it is but it's like
they're mustering
all they can do to get our attention
because something that's going on or
something is about to happen and um
with all of the increasing
synchronicities on the planet it seems
like something is ramping up um some say
we're getting closer to 5d that um the
the uh the veil between the worlds are
getting
thin and and we're starting to see more
miracles and supernatural abilities and
all of this stuff you know with 5d so
um we don't know but you you don't know
unless you explore
so i mean so we did the show just kind
of discussing that but i want to do one
an open line show where people just call
in and and share their synchronicity
stories like hear like those far out
stories you know
yeah
that would be pretty cool
um
somebody asked about the 666 being a
an angel number
like
yeah i mean
i remember having a 666 synchronicity
that's weird
interesting yeah i know it scared me at
first you know because it's like oh this
is
the devil you know
but like
yeah it was like
it was like four or five things that day
i had a podcast that night
and um
i drove 666 miles
i put
66.66
of
of of gas in the in the vehicle when i
got done working like there was several
things uh i hit 666 likes on on the
mythicist page or something like it was
all of these things at the same time
that were all
666 and i'm like oh i'm kind of tripping
because i'm like oh this isn't good
this is bad so i had to kind of catch
myself and like hold on
let me google if this is actually a good
thing and
rightfully so i found all of these
articles that were so convincing at the
time of what i needed
to to show that 666 was actually a good
number and you know it's like there's
not a number that's bad like come on
numbers are neutral but to be able to
see those synchronicities like that with
that number um
you know for one to to be able to see
the good in things that was a huge part
of my awakening was
to be able to see bad stuff in
everything
but to flip it and say okay i'm going to
see the good in this what good is
there's got to be some good there
somewhere
and to be optimistic about it like you
know versus like hey we're not doing a
podcast tonight is 666 everywhere some
people would do that they'd look at it
as a sign not to do it and
and uh you know
step away but everything i've seen was
beautiful i was like wow i had no idea
no idea
joel joseph uh is asking about the
upcoming
new moon
lion lions gate which is uh
in two days eight eight the lions gate
portal um yeah a new moon
you know so double new now double new
beginnings yeah
yeah and so you know
it's it's good to to start something new
on the new moon i always try to release
an album on the new moon when i put my
music out i always pick the release date
as a new moon date um
so
but and then that's what the 88 portal
is too supposedly that
um
sirius is coming into a perfect
alignment with uh orion and
and all that so
which i've been a skeptic for a lot of
that you know um
yeah talking about it last night
on uh school of mystics but
a lot of people believe in it you know
i'm still on the fence with that stuff
just because that
was again a it was a couple years ago
maybe a little bit more recent but um
there was a there was a small or short
season in time that kind of got me
actually studying and studying astro
theology but there was a time when
like the lord told me something and then
on one of my one of the groups i'm on
facebook
posted something about some kind of
you know astrological event that was
coming on and
it wasn't word for word but they were
kind of basically saying the same thing
of what the lord had told me like you
know first floor to then and then that
group said i'm like
okay that is weird
let me see what happens
sure nothing you know it played out
and i actually had that happen about two
or three times so i know that some of
the stuff
is legit
but it kind of makes me wonder when it
comes to like you know like
you know talking about the two
constellations and because
we see this stuff we're gonna rephrase
that we see them posting a you know this
thing is happening here but
i don't really i don't know about you
but i honestly don't really feel
anything like energetically wise it's
interesting watching things play out and
knowing certain things are are
supposedly happening in the in the in
the skies and the
stars but
i never actually really feel anything
very rarely i don't know about you
i mean
you know the
it could be
you know some type of intellectual thing
like when you associate meaning with it
then you can actually feel it you know
um exactly
yeah and that's a hundred percent true
you know just
if uh
you know it it it would mean more to you
you know if you if you studied it and
you know just like you know your
birthday you know you you know when you
wake up on your birthday it feels
different to you than it does a stranger
like hey today's special man today is
everything looks different today you
know like
you know what i'm saying um because you
know something that other people don't
know so you're able to
to sense a different reality if you will
undercover so
when someone um
you know studies all of this stuff and
the expectation there's just more umpf
in it um
it makes it more potent to the person i
mean anything
of spiritual significance you know when
you study something
um
but you know
you could tell somebody it's your
birthday they could be happy for you but
it's they still don't get that feeling
that that is your birthday you know yeah
because it's yes for you for that day so
um that's that's definitely happening
like if you
whatever you study you know and
something happens
or
you know you watch the news and you've
been reading like doom and gloom stuff
and then you're like oh my god i've been
studying bible prophecy for 20 years and
now look where we are you know it's like
they're freaking out you know it's like
um
you know what what you what you put in
is going to show itself to you what
you're looking for
so if you're looking for high energy on
eight eight
you're gonna get high energy on eight
eight
if you're if you're not you're not gonna
get anything and so essentially you're
you know you're creating it even if it
ain't if it is something or if it isn't
like
first again for most of us it's just
going to be another day and for someone
else
it's a high high magic day high day of
yeah you know creativity and creation
and birthing something and
contact and all kinds of stuff you know
it's always just interesting watching oh
because i had him said you know the
stars and plans do have effects on
humanity
and
um
yeah
i'm reading one
one
of the books of solomon i don't know
which one is i don't know if it's a
testament or the keys but i know you
know that
supposedly it does have and very well
could be because i know that
um
if we are very dull on something we're
not going to catch it so it could very
well be that we are just not sensitive
enough to
feel to feel the effects which is very
possible but at the same time
i have seen with my own personal eyes
and i know my parents have seen this too
being you know from
my dad
law enforcement
my mom been in the medical field
and i've seen it myself that
full moons
can explain it
yeah they have an effect and we always
knew
when something was going on because we
were looking sure enough it was a full
moon and all hell was breaking loose
yeah
well they say um you know crop crime
rate uh increases during the full moon
yeah
so
yeah yeah i think you talk about it i
know the testament of solomon does talk
about the different
star systems and planetary alignments
that
um are over certain uh demons and things
like that um and the angels that bind
them but it definitely mentions the uh
um astrology behind it too but again we
you know
we don't know
um but we we're just talking about how
we feel
you know exactly but yeah i mean you
know you
you do have those days that you wake up
and you're just not feeling it you know
and i think that if we knew the
astrology we you know behind it
it may help for us to know
when to plant when to start something
new when when i should um
you know be around people when i should
plan a party you know i know people who
actually know their astrology enough to
where they have you know we're gonna
have to take medication and see
psychologists but they just started you
know reading their astrology and
planning their weeks by that and they
they say that it works for them
so
you know um but again that's just by
faith or whatever i don't know but but
it's definitely something that the old
world knew you know or believed and
we've gotten so far away from it like
the you know the only thing about is we
you know you have to be a skeptic
because there's so much false and
disinformation out there about it like
if you found
cause for one there's so many different
modes of astrology
right there's you know i had that one
guy on it was a beautiful episode but he
was talking about like
um i don't know it was tibetan astrology
or something but it was
indian this indian astrology and this is
like totally different than you know
classical astrology and um
it's like what okay which one's right
well both of them are right so
you know trying to figure out
someone who knows their stuff and and is
proven
you know i don't know how many
or legit you know yeah yeah
yeah how many i would trust
you know
that's just me you got to be a skeptic
but the skeptic is open to
to the information you know
yeah that kind of goes along with my
current perspective of black it's like
i'm i consider myself a um oh crap let's
say
open and then there's
negative pessimistic or optimistic
pessimists
it's one of the two where like i i try
to see
the good and everything but i see
acknowledge and understand that there is
bad in the world but try to see
everything in a positive positive light
yeah i'm the same way
i'm the same way and i and i know that
um
you know there's healthy skepticism
but i feel like it's it's allowed me to
see some really cool stuff you know
and uh in the spirit world and
um
and stuff that crosses over like um
i don't know
it's it's helped me
and i'm going to continue to embrace it
like i don't want to be like
um
just believing everything or tricking
myself into believing that i saw the
things that i saw
you know i know that that's there
because if you especially if you want to
see something so bad
you know like you said the ufo things
and
i can't tell you how many times i've
been stargazing and been in like a a
deep state
you know connecting and and asking for a
sighting and all that and then
there's this light coming towards me
that's really really really bright and
i'm just like i know that it's a ufo i
know it's a chariot deep down and then
it flies over me and it's a it's an
airplane
you know um
and you think it's a ufo until it gets
up to you like oh okay
you know i could have walked away and
said yeah i saw that was a ufo but no i
like
you know what i'm saying you want to
make sure you you uh
you get to see these things because
they're real yes there's so much out
there and if it's not real then
don't chase it or don't believe in it
but
yep you know whatever you're seeking
will show itself to you so i think like
hold out you know i'm saying hold out
for the real stuff
you have to settle for the a fake
encounter or whatever you know
exactly
anyone has any stories for us or want to
ask any questions
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9776 we had a comment here from
somebody's this is the first comment
i've seen from them tonight i'm trying
to find out who it was it just said uh
uh
true
seeking warrior truth seeking warrior
says i definitely gotta do more of these
brothers peace and shalom y'all for sure
we would definitely do more of these
i've been wanting to do them and i'm
kind of rebranding and changing some
stuff up
and um
so yeah we're doing this and trying some
new audio stuff it's kind of hard to to
do the technology and make everything
communicate and talk to each other uh
sometimes it could be hard so
when you're connecting the phone lines i
remember we've done the phone lines
before
and um
people call in and they can't hear us
you know
one thing
you know
not lined up right you mess it will mess
it all up so when you finally get it to
uh
to working
and what we're doing now what we're
using now for the phone lines it's
pretty expensive so i'm just kind of
wanting to test it out and make sure
that somebody that that people you know
are going to use it and and it works
good and so and if so we'll keep doing
it you know we'll pay for it and stuff
and so enough people supporting and and
helping out david uh david brodus i
guess that's your name just came on as a
patron thank you just got that alert
thanks so much for for joining
and uh i'll give you a shout out again
at the beginning of the next podcast so
uh man yeah every every little bit helps
and
all of this stuff kind of uh
you know
stacks up and it ends up costing a lot
of a month so a lot of the uh the bigger
and better things that we want to do
they it just cost or whatever but i'm
willing to pay it man this is this is so
fun and so much information you know
that we're
uh getting into and
so man
so we got another call
yep we got tom on the line here
all right tom
welcome how are you
welcome to the podcast brother
yeah yeah thanks
how's it going yeah i just happen to see
you guys for the first time
so uh
i just kind of
never believed in anything until i have
to see it you know
oh yeah until i saw that latest one with
the military showing it on radar
and then
that spacecraft or what they were
watching
on radar went into the water off the uh
in the pacific yeah i think it was off
the coast of san diego
oh yeah so that one was an eye opener
that one kind of you know i feel like
that one
showed me that
and probably those are those were
probably the real deal
yeah they convinced a lot of a lot of
people you know a lot of um
you know people in the military
for sure so you know but you know they
they can they showed that this um
this craft was probably 40 feet
in length and i was traveling at 8 000
miles an hour
so we know there's nothing that
humans can make that can fly 8 000 miles
an hour in our atmosphere
no way
yeah we're starting to get some some
stuff uh from the government they're
starting to release some documents and
some footage and stuff like that which
i think they have to to control the
narrative you know eventually they're
going to tell us what they are
and um most likely are going to say that
they're maybe they don't even know what
they are though see that's the thing i
think they don't even know themselves
i i think what it is probably who knows
what these creatures could look like
yeah inside these this
they could be like little miniature
beings maybe they're only a centimeter
in
height
maybe they're we don't know
yeah it reminds me of the uh at the same
time
if they've got what they've got they've
created
you know why would they even want to
talk to us idiots
yeah you know that's why they don't
contact us because it'd be like a waste
of their time and effort
they would get nothing from us it would
be a waste of their time
yeah
i'm with you i think that's why we don't
see much interaction
yeah yeah they're just like
these poor saps that's probably yeah
that's probably why we're not we're not
trying to communicate with ants you know
we're like what it would have
you know
what are we going to do what are we
going to get for them are they going to
tell us something we don't know or
explain something that
the
secrets of the united states
yeah
right
and then if you stick your hand in an
ant pile
they're going to hurt you you know
and so if
if we catch it if we yeah like you know
cats
down
craft yeah we're going to cut them open
and do experiments on them i mean it's
just what's going to happen
you know
yeah really right
and they're probably gonna do the same
to us
[Laughter]
yeah
it's pretty cool man i mean i don't know
what else to say i mean you know at this
point
see you know seeing this believing that
we got to say what are we going to do
there's nothing we can do or say they're
they're just ignoring us and they don't
really care about us
and uh that's that's that's it
yeah
well thanks for the call tom
would you uh listen what are you
listening on on blogtalk or um
uh youtube
yeah i called in through blog talk nice
awesome man well it's good to have you
man we're going to be doing this more
often if you want to call in and share
thanks for the okay i'll listen to hear
anybody
come in contact with them directly you
know i mean we don't you know some
people have said they've been uh
abducted in their sleep and they were
woke up in a
on a table in a spaceship with aliens
over them
i mean i i don't know
yeah it's interesting you know i i
my podcast we actually uh interview you
know those people a lot on here
and um
people who've had you know so-called
encounters and stuff like that and
one of the interesting things about the
abduction phenomena is that there's
something called the the um
um
my lab abductions mi my lab it's uh
military induced abductions and a lot of
those people who wake up and say that
they're
laying on a table strapped down a lot of
times in the corner they see a person
wearing a military garb
in in the corner while these
you know little beings are
you know messing with them there's
there's humans there wearing military
outfits on the so-called ships or
whatever as well so
whether the government is working with
them or it's something that has been
done to push fear and hysteria with
within ufology um this is another
interesting take for sure
how about about this theory how about
this theory
those who are actually running this
planet are aliens
and the ones that they saw that look
like humans and
military clothing where actually
they can they can transform themselves
into looking like us
and uh uh
so you know they're actually
among amongst us but we don't know who
they actually are because they can
transform
yeah
yeah i mean the bible says that we maybe
they are who created us maybe we are
just like uh
you know just some experiment
a lot of people believe that too you
know the bible says that we we entertain
angels unaware that there's angels or
angelic
beings that we come in contact with
daily and we don't even know so it says
to uh make sure that you're good to
entertain strangers
because you don't know you never know
when when
the aliens wrote the bible probably the
aliens wrote the bible which are our
actual creators
who's to say who our creators are
we can say whatever or think whatever it
is we think they look our creator of god
looks like
but maybe the bible who wrote the bible
and the god is some alien uh being
uh uh or maybe i don't know who
yeah
yes sir
well hey man thanks for the call brother
all right buddy all right many blessings
until we actually get an alien in front
of us and talking to us and
i'll interview him
i'll have him on here yeah yeah okay
all right brother good man good night
yes sir take care
all right tom yes sir
yeah i mean he you know talks about them
being real little you know like
i feel like there was a uh episode of
the twilight zone where there's these
lit this little ufo it's a good episode
guys you guys gotta look it up just type
in tiny ufo
twilight zone but it it lands or
whatever
and there was a spin to that episode but
it was really good i don't know i don't
want to give away the the plot twist or
whatever but there's just a little bit
of ufo that's flying around and it lands
in like this little alien gets out or
whatever so if you guys haven't seen
that episode
there's some gems from the twilight zone
so make sure y'all check that out but it
has to do with little
little aliens i'll say
we'll try to go back and uh
read some of these comments there's a
bunch of comments here
um
let's see
nick russo says i told my boss about you
today
and you speak about paranormal and
spirituality and boom here you are live
talking about just that the paranormal
and spirituality for sure for sure it's
what we do man
matthew says a friend of mine found true
seeker but i don't listen to a lot of
rap so i was not paying attention to the
music the 333 album what i saw later
that night changed my life
awesome awesome
what was it that you saw
um
see truth it says oh yeah there's an
interview with an insider in the 80s who
describes that same ufo that the navy
showed um i have to look it up sometime
to remember awesome
yeah that stuff's old man you know
a lot of that footage is old
but you can
it's so weird though looking up that
stuff on youtube now because there's so
much fake stuff too you know
there's so much stuff that's like hoaxed
or whatever and set up just for clicks
and views so
again you gotta dig man you know
you gotta dig and then if you're looking
for the footage you'll find some cool
stuff but
go out and do the ce5 and just
film it yourself or just have the
encounter and don't film it you know
that's if you really want to know the
truth is out there for sure
uh joel says can clouds turn into
different
shapes to
represent a manifestation of an entity
because one time
i was finishing prayer and looked up and
i saw eyes in the clouds looking down at
me i think so
i think that could happen for sure i've
seen a lot of
um symbols in the clouds and stuff you
know
so
chris topher chris says just got home
howdy everyone what's up brother
and uh
tony and chad says brother i have 47
years worth of these experiences well
we're gonna do more we're gonna do more
shows man and we're gonna open up the
phone lines and um
you know we're gonna do this more often
so
make sure you call in and share share
some of these experiences i do too man
you know i love talking about this stuff
i love experiencing it and and um
and
you know creating a safe place for
people to share their experiences man
you know not to be laughed at or
belittled and and really to try to come
together you know the more that you hear
about about something or people
experiencing something
the less you feel like a crazy person
you know because some of the stuff
people have nobody to talk to so they
have to call
you know radio shows and um and and
podcasts and stuff and listen when i was
when i was going through a lot of this
stuff
i stayed on blog talk radio i stayed
calling in these shows and and sharing
my story and and asking questions to uh
some of the people who were being
interviewed and man it helped me so much
so um yeah we're gonna be doing more of
this so thanks everybody for hanging out
with us tonight uh enjoyed this
uh so much thank you gothic for manning
the phone lines and and being a part of
the show brother
bringing uh entire everything to the
table that you bring too so we're gonna
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