Vernul Sequeira | Tapping Into Angelic Realm, Miracles and Awakening | TruthSeekah Podcast
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we had
um our third men's retreat and people
coming from all over the country man
showing up and
um uh showing out that we had a great
time
um connecting with these brothers from
all over
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have been revolutionary for me man and
just tapping into
uh all of this stuff that we're doing on
the podcast that we're doing on the
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person a group of guys going into the
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um with the intention of laying some
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picking some stuff up just being around
like-minded individuals man this is was
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to all the the guys who showed up we had
like eight people show up
um all together i think was eight and uh
man thank you guys for believing in the
work and then for coming out and
and showing up and everybody brought
something different to the table and so
each
men's retreat that we've done like i
said i've done three since
january and um they've all been
different and they've all been beautiful
and
i feel like they're getting better and
better like each one was is awesome
and there's like little things that are
working little things that you add and
then this and that and this and that
just for this perfect um alchemical uh
process of an experience facilitating
encounter and getting to know one
another so
shout out to you guys i got so many
stories that i want to share
maybe if you stick around to the end
like uh
i'll share some of the stories there was
uh some pretty cool stuff some
interesting stuff that happened and uh
we got followed
by a dude tripping on meth or something
man following us through the uh
through the woods which was interesting
in this vehicle i'll go into
a little bit of detail at the end if you
want to hear that so make sure you stick
around
uh without further ado we're going to go
ahead and bring on today's guest my
friend
verno sakura how are you my brother how
are you
hey daddy how are you i'm doing good
awesome
thank you for the invite man oh yeah man
you had me on your show and uh
we had our first talk and loved it i
think you saw me
uh on you saw me interviewing kirby
and then after that reached out to me to
get me on your podcast and your
internet show and uh we just hit it off
man i really love what you're doing i
love what you're bringing to the table
and
um just your willingness to um ask the
bigger questions and pursue it and not
really care what other people think
about you you i think your heart your
heart is about what the father thinks
about you
and his opinion of you which is the only
opinion that matters
and it allows you to tap into all of
this stuff that we're going to talk
about today so
excited to have you on man same here man
samia
and really appreciate for what you're
doing like
i'm totally hooked on to your channel i
love watching your channel
like your your channel is my favorite
so i have i have yeah i that the stuff
that you bring on
the the people that you bring on i just
love to watch all that and
learning lots from you and yeah so
viewers i also want to say
buy this book
[Laughter]
this is it's a really really good book
so let's
go ahead and if you can pick it up
and read it yeah it stretched you on a
lot of things right because like
you're asking questions like you're
hitting me up off the air on air too but
asking me questions about
you know some of the stuff we're talking
about and then some of the stuff that's
mentioned
in the book and so that's the cool thing
that is challenging you
and you're trying this stuff out trying
it and you already have
you know your own practices and stuff
which is really cool and and um
it's i feel like it's the uh you know
the forerunners of this christian mystic
movement
which is worldwide but there's people um
who are out there to challenge the
status quo and just deal with
truth righteously right no matter what
that truth is no matter what box it
shows up in and
and um hear a little there a little has
that been your journey because you grew
up in like the catholic church and stuff
right so a lot of this stuff
is new but christian mysticism
really comes from the early catholics
which a lot of people want to overlook
you know yes yes i mean
yeah i i came from the catholic church
and then
uh you know we started becoming the
so-called bible-believing christians
and then we went to the i i heard your
your one podcast on the pendulum effect
so so same similar thing happened
i went from catholic church to extreme
believing in in the scriptures and
anything outside the scripture was was
cult for me so but now
uh i'm learning uh i'm seeing suddenly
that i'm i'm picking up stuff that i've
thrown away uh around eight years back
and yeah so a lot of
stuff a lot of prayer technology i've
been using now
in my walk prayer walk so picking up the
whole thing
back again and now think looking at
things in a
different consciousness so i speak lord
on consciousness now
and how it is important uh
when we when we look at thing with the
right mindset with the right lenses
uh that plays an important role so your
intention your heart intention
is so important what you're doing is not
that important what's your
heart intention is uh very important
so yeah the scriptures are clear yes
yeah so i've seen your book and i i
think i should make this point
ever since i came in touch with your
podcast
youtube channel there has been more uh
you know broadening of my whole mindset
so
uh i have been challenged but uh
i have understood that uh uh you know
there is something out there it's it's
more than
uh you know what what we think uh you
have to be broad minded
it makes it more real though don't it
like if it if there's these other
technologies that prove what you already
believe
you know absolutely
absolutely uh yeah so
maybe we'll speak something about the
consciousness
uh thing that i always speak about
and you know being that christ
consciousness seeing christ in
everything
just opens your life up for a greater
experiences in your life
uh when we say the bible is the only
technology
to experience god then we are missing
out on a lot of things
uh i'm not there is i'm not saying we
need to be contrary to the scriptures
i i do believe having scriptures as the
plum
line but then uh
but then there is something more uh that
the scriptures
could not hold on to you know the bible
says
what jesus did even the books of the
whole
whole world would not have it so there
is something more out there that we can
still explore
and god is uh
is bigger than a book
yeah that's true i like the fact that
you say that it's the plum line
and so uh because even with this growing
christian mystic movement now you have a
lot of people who just
totally abandon the scriptures it's not
about the scriptures the scriptures are
tainted or
you know just making up all kinds of new
things which i'm cool i'm cool with a
lot of that because it but
you have to use the bible as the prom
line or
um as a something that you would you
would sift it through
like you have to sift all of this
knowledge in this in this stuff
through the scriptures and make sure
that that it doesn't contradict
the word because um we're adding all of
these new experiences and stuff which is
cool i'm with it
but there are so many cool things in it
that
we don't even know yeah like a lot of
this stuff that we think is brand new
wow we're leaving our bodies and
traveling listen traveling to heaven
they've been doing this
you know uh we're speaking with the
saints who came before us
listen they've been doing this yeah and
it's in the bible you just you've been
taught on how to how to program it
you have to break free from from those
conditions and be able to read it
and be taught from the lord that's what
makes you a mystic anyway a christian
mystic
is one who is taught directly by the
lord jesus christ himself you need not
that any man teach you
but ask him to teach you when you open
and you'll find
you'll find things in the scriptures
that nobody has ever
understood from the beginning of time i
believe it 100
Jeremiah 33 3 call unto me i will answer
you and show you great
and mighty things that you do not know
and cannot find out
unless you come directly to the lord
through the scriptures i believe it man
so
don't abandon the scriptures get they're
more potent
and more powerful now than ever it
hasn't lost its power it's more matt
it's the most magical book on the planet
and it's sharper than any two-edged
sword and man
that's a mystical encounter the greatest
mr mystical encounter for me
is opening up the scriptures and him
revealing the secrets of my heart
just by reading a chapter and he's
giving me divine revelation
and i'm crying and i'm weeping just by
opening up the scriptures that's what
it's supposed to be
yeah i i i absolutely i agree with you
because
i feel the same like though uh
we might look like some people who are
outside the scriptures
but we are not exactly going outside the
scriptures but we take the scriptures
more seriously than anybody
so the bible itself is a mystical book
and i personally in my prayer time for
me scriptures
really are important to connect to have
that deeper connection with the lord
so i i whatever technology that i use
i will always try to prove it with the
scripture
yeah so i absolutely agree with you and
as you said it's really powerful the
scriptures are powerful
because i really sense the high
frequency that it carries
when i read the scriptures like i
literally feel
goosebumps i literally feel the presence
so scriptures are so important and
people should not misunderstood us
when we talk about mystical experiences
people should understand that we draw it
out from the scriptures
and explore the depths of the heart of
god
that's big i mean for me i mean i'm a
word guy i
was taught how to dissect the scriptures
and and things like that and so
if you could show it if you could show
me in the scriptures then i would
believe it
if you couldn't show me in the
scriptures i didn't want to hear it so
it has
opened me led me to be able to
all of the encounters that i've had try
to find
some semblance in the scriptures like oh
wow
that happened to him this is what
happened to me i woke up and there was a
spirit at the edge of my bed
communicating with me telepathically
what scripture is that
there's a bunch of them but it happened
to job you know seeing ghosts and
and spirits of past loved ones who come
and carry messages and
angels which the word angel we're going
to get in angels are pretty
pretty big but angels are messengers
anything that carries a message and
there are multiple
spirits that work for god that carry
messages
they don't just look like you know
blond-haired blue-eyed
white men i don't think that any of them
do they look like
some of them look like creatures and
they're scary and they're ghosts and
they're made out of fire and smoke and
water
and all of this stuff and so this is in
the scriptures they travel through water
and through fire and through smoke and
they show up and they can take on bodies
and communicate and give messages and
vibrational
frequencies and they can assist you in
all of this which is in the scriptures
and
people are trying to talk us out and say
the bible is boring and
listen it's in the word we're not making
this stuff up it's real
absolutely absolutely and yes uh
when we talk about angels they are
enigmatic we we might not understand
the complete science of them
but they do exist and if scriptures say
they exist they exist
and the way they work is crazy i mean
crazy is not the word because they will
work in dimensions
they will work through frequencies they
will be
working sometimes out outside your
three-dimensional world
so sometimes time space
matter is not there what they follow
it's completely uh beyond our
understanding so i i always explain
uh people try to explain spiritual stuff
but uh i always explain to people
hey guys you are dealing with dimensions
so a two dimension a person who is
two-dimensional
if you draw a circle into his world
he does not see a circle he just sees a
line
because he's a two-dimensional for me
who is three-dimensional will see
things differently but someone who is
beyond three-dimensional will see things
differently
so yeah when we see angels
they can vary and if you see the
scriptures in one place
uh they talks about the the four living
creatures
being one and in another place in the
book of revelation therefore
different beings so
uh we cannot say this is how the angels
are but they
are there so sometimes i have
recently i i felt and i encountered
angels that looked like
aliens so like the whole day
i had a presence of an angel around me
uh which looked like an alien and i'm
like what's happening
what is this uh that is happening but
you know
uh thank god that god is maturing us
through
christ consciousness where we look at
things and we don't demonize it
rather we look at it as as uh you know
something connected to us and receive
the benefits out of
it yeah that's that's huge because
a lot of these beings cannot appear to
people because they would be too afraid
and so and you would think that it was a
demon you know just because it didn't
look like what you
think an angel looks like blonde hair
blue-eyed
man with a flaming sword on wings you
know
um they they do look like what you said
like what we call
aliens and um uh silhouettes
of you know humanoids fire made out of
light green light as well the order of
melchizedek is definitely
um affiliated with the green
light beings i talk about them in my
music a lot
the order of the green light you know
it's dealing with the order of
melchizedek and
many people have talked about
melchizedek appearing to them
as a green light that comes to them and
i've had that
encounter through meditation i can see a
lot of times i can see them with my eyes
closed i'll close my eyes and i can see
a silhouette
as i'm going deeper and deeper and
deeper into meditation and
tapping into the trance state being out
of my physical body
which to be absent from the body is to
be present with the lord
so stepping away from this physical
reality and going into the spirit realm
which is eternal
then you can see things and i've had
them show up and scan your aura
to see if there's any they're like
weighing your heart they're trying to
see if there's any what kind of motive
who are you they're scanning you
they can scan your aura you can't lie to
them you're not you know
they know why you're there they know if
you just want to see something
they know that if you've come upon your
own free will they
they know it all and um we can encounter
them
there's so many different ones and it's
scary again it's like
part of that racism thing or that
prejudice like angels can only look like
this
and once you get rid of that then you
begin to
experience them as whatever they
their true form and they don't have to
like cloak or
whatever you can see them it is scary
you know what i'm saying but it's part
of it's
all and a wonder as well you know
yeah i believe they show up in different
ways uh
it all depends upon uh how
broad you are into your mindset the
for me for us uh like that's what we i'm
gonna
uh speak and i want i would love to
share today
for us when angels are there it's
completely
different sometimes they show their
presence through
a lot of crazy stuff so we've seen like
gemstones manifesting gold dust
feathers and all that stuff manifesting
in our church
that i lead so sometimes this
same angels they manifest through
numbers
like i will see synchronicities of
numbers
same numbers coming again and again and
crazy synchronicities
so when they tap into our
dimension i feel i believe that take
different
forms so that we are able to understand
them and recognize them
but they themselves are completely
a different form the different you see
you cannot put them into the time
space and matter box they're completely
different
so that's how they are uh
uh you you even if you see the
scriptures in one place you will see
jesus
with the sword in the mouth with a fire
in the eyes in the book of revelation
and the other place you will see jesus
like a
lamb who's slain
so it's completely different how they
come
into our world how this visions come how
we see them
but it all depends upon the dimension
that we are and how we can understand
their dimension now why is it important
just for the audience i know you know
but why is it important
to speak about this because when you're
speaking about it
obviously you're increasing faith you're
building
uh expectancy that god is not a
respecter of persons you're not anyone
that's more special than the next person
you simply believe and god rewards you
according to your faith whatever it is
that you
uh believe for god will will fill that
that space there he shows up
um because you're you've you've created
that grid for him to work and operate so
teaching on angels right because you
guys t you teach on this a lot
and i've seen a lot of your testimonials
where like whether it's financial
breakthrough
with with angels whether it's miracles
in the body with angels you'll speak on
it
and then after you teach on it it
expands people's faith
and then they encounter it like they
didn't know it was possible
now it's impossible now it's something
that i'm going to try then they're
stepping into it
and now they're encountering these
angels within their own life because
you taught on it can you speak a little
bit about that
yeah so i would say if you are reading
the bible
you will find 80 percent of the time
angels in the bible like
every book almost will have angels let
if you just start with the new testament
you start with the gospel
the first chapter second chapter onwards
you will hear about angels angels coming
into joseph dreams angels going to
elizabeth
john angel's coming to marry
angels uh going to the three wise men
you will hear about angels from genesis
to book of revelation
so uh this this this might sound
offensive but more than uh jesus
sometimes you will hear more than more
about angels
but this is the this is the truth
they're angelic where the bible
is trying to tell us about is so
prominent
throughout the bible so uh why it is
important if
the bible is trying to bring us to a
consciousness
make us aware that the angels
are all the time ministering spirit
around you why should we uh
rebuke it the whole idea we need to
bring that consciousness in our life so
this is what i want to bring forth is
consciousness is so
so so important so more than the devil
more than the demons the scripture
speaks about the angels
and god wants us
to be conscious of the angelic around us
even if you are not a christian
even if you are not a christian you
don't believe
in jesus we got angels with us
and that consciousness is so important
because with that consciousness if you
are conscious of the angelic all the
time
you will experience the angelic in your
life yeah
or if you're conscious of demons all the
time
yeah if you have consciousness of demons
you're going to experience demons all
the time
so i i'm there was this prophet uh
and he had a servant and he comes to
uh the the prophet and says uh
oh they're all enemies around me the
prophet
says hey open your eyes and see
and let me pray for you he prays and his
eyes open and he sees angels around
and says those who are around us are
more than those who are against us
come on so that's that's bringing
the prophet is trying to bring a
consciousness
this consciousness is the reality of our
life
it's so good i love that story
elisha in the young man yes yes yes
yes so it's a reality of our life and
the bible
time and again scriptures time and again
try to bring this reality in our life
and it is so sad that we we memorize
scriptures
we put it all around our balls but when
it really comes
to about consciousness we are not really
conscious
of what the scriptures want us to be
conscious of
yeah so when we when we read the
scriptures
we look at it in a more demon
consciousness
what is evil what is dev demonic oh this
is demonic that is demonic
uh and when we keep on feeding uh
looking at these scriptures
trying to find out what is demonic and
what is not demonic
that's when our consciousness falls from
a higher consciousness to a lost
consciousness
and we start eating from the fruit of
the tree
of good and evil
and then you will see everything in your
life
is demonic you see everything you see
demons all around
and every moment of your life so uh
people ask me how do i experience
the angelic how do i experience the
angels and see them
simple you just keep on thinking about
them
you keep on listening about them and you
know that's what he said faith comes by
hearing and hearing the word of god
so if you hear more about the angelic
the more
the angelic magnified in your life
so jesus took the bread and
he took the you see the disciples said
disciples said we have only
uh five loaves and two fish
we can't feed the people so the
disciples were looking at the negative
they were looking at the lack
yeah jesus said bring it to me
he lifts it up and he gives thanks to
god
now he's not looking at the lack he's
looking at that
as the providence for people
so jesus looks the eyes of christ
look at the positive not at the negative
in the similar way
when we start focusing more because
where we
focus that's where our energy goes we
keep
focusing more and more on the angelic
boom it just manifest in your life
that's good yes what your focus on
uh shows itself to you exactly
faith works it's a it's it's the belief
and the hope for things unseen you don't
see it right now but you read it and you
know it's possible you hear
a testimony about the angelic you hear
the testimony about
a financial breakthrough you hear a
testimony about a life that was changed
by god and so you understand the
testimony is showing people what
god did for one person he can also do
for another so sharing these testimonies
and
talking about angels and bragging on god
trust me he inhabits the praises of his
people he shows up there's a level of
expectancy that has to come with it the
bible is full of it
it's one thing to dream in awe and
wonder but it's another thing to step
into that
expectancy that placebo is again
you believe it you shall receive it it's
going to manifest for you and so
all throughout the scriptures again this
faith backed with expectancy
it wasn't that it was some big crazy
miracle it's just that the
people simply believed it they saw it
they heard
they heard renowned jesus is coming to
town did you hear what he did in in
bethany did you hear what he did at the
temple
he healed a man what he raised the kid
from the dead he touched this
a leper well he hung out with lepers i
got a leper friend
you know what i'm saying so they're
they're building his renown and so
there's a spirit of expectancy
and and yeah and it reveals it shows
itself to them but then the people who
doubt it
because they knew him oh that's jesus
man we used to we should go to school
with jesus he's a regular guy
he's a carpenter he was building houses
last week now he's doing what
so in you know that showed itself to
them
in their mind jesus couldn't heal and
their mind jesus was
just like him they they envied him you
know
you know watch people following him i
got a better ministry than him
i could teach the scriptures better than
jesus and guess what that showed itself
to them and
and doubt and unbelief and backbiting
and ridicule
all of those things and they that's what
that was their life
simply believe absolutely absolutely
yeah and it's so important as you said
to speak about this stuff
speaking about this stuff is the key for
you and me to step into the supernatural
realm
if we need to really uh step into
supernatural
keep speaking about this stuff
miracles signs wonders healing angels
you know i'm just reminded there was
this woman
who went and touched the ham of the
garment and she was healed
but and no one was healed that time by
touching the ham of the garment of jesus
but fast forward from there i think it's
in Matthew 16 later
we see that everyone is touching the ham
of jesus garment and all are getting
healed
so the testimony of this one woman
was heard by many and then they started
doing the same
and started getting healed that's
awesome
it's the it's the expectancy shifting
the focus yeah
uh varno man um we got so we're just
getting started
we got i got so much that i wanna i
wanna ask you about so much we wanna get
into about the angelic and even
uh set up an atmosphere where people can
experience the angelic on this
episode here so i want you to pray for
the people here in a little bit we're
gonna do it we're gonna we gotta keep
talking about it we gotta build the
expectancy i wanna hear more stories i
know you have a lot more
i did a podcast with you on someone
else's show you remember that
and and you shared a story that i want
you to share
um we're gonna go to a quick break get
on the other side of the break i want
you to tell the story about
the little girl who kept seeing spirits
in the other room
we'll be right back absolutely sure
wow so the throne room meditation man
this was just like a new level for me of
creating encounter
uh really the process behind it is going
in for myself
having an encounter with the lord
tapping into the spirit and getting in
his presence
and really just petitioning the father's
heart and saying god
what would you say to them if i'm
bringing these people with me here if
they're doing this guided meditation
and we're going through this journey
we're having fun we're seeing things
we're
experiencing new feelings and emotions
and sensations
what would you say to him so it's
channeling
the father's heart and relating it back
to the people so man it's just a
beautiful encounter
and um i remember when i wrote the first
one
i was so excited about it and it was
just god speaking to my heart i was able
to channel the father's heart
and i would read the script to people
because i was just so excited while i
was working on it
and every time that i would just read
the script the presence of god would
just
invade me and i just burst into tears
and i couldn't even read it
i'm just like let me copy and paste it
and send it to you
but every time i listen to it i'm
immediately translated
back into the throne room of god and uh
everything's good there
that's the place where everything is
okay where in the scriptures it says
that we are to hide under the shadow of
the almighty
this is the throne room of god this is
the place that we can encounter for
ourselves
but this is also a place in which we
dwell so a part of us is
always there and we have access to that
now there's people who have never
encountered this before in their life
and it's a totally new experience for
them
and almost every time i get a testimony
back from someone they just say how
god wrecked their lives that they didn't
know what they were getting into
the next thing they know they're in the
presence of god
wrapped up in his glory he's
communicating his love to them
and it just totally wrecks their lives
so
make sure you check out the throne room
guided meditation visualization that i
brought to the table
all right that's available at
truthseeker.com for those of you who
have not had a chance to check it out
i'm very proud of that meditation uh i i
guarantee it'll change your life make
sure you check it out truthseeker.com
all right brother that uh that story
about the little girl who was seeing the
the spirits or whatever in the next room
yeah so before going
check out the throne room meditation
that's one
of my best meditation
that i uh ever heard
you know it's too good and uh really
really
amazing meditation uh derek i ha i think
you have another meditation also about
uh
touching the ham of jesus
that's amazing like these are the best
meditation out there
i would say yeah so uh let me let me
quickly speak about uh this this
this story about this uh girl which
happened
uh so this there was this girl in our
church
a very young school going girl and she
she was once in her house and suddenly
she sees somebody
uh in her bedroom and she's all afraid
and she comes running and tells the
mother i saw somebody in my bedroom and
the mother calls me and says
she saw somebody in the bedroom so i
tell them
uh that's an angel
you don't need to get afraid of it so
from that day onwards this girl
keeps seeing angels in her house
in her life not just that after she sees
every time she has an encounter with
these angels
she starts getting gemstones
like crazy big gemstones in her house
so what i say about this is
how important it is to have a
consciousness
if i had told her that that's a evil
spirit that's a demonic spirit
let me tell you every day this girl
would have seen demons in her house
so it's so important to uh
have the right mindset you know we have
the mind of christ
so we need to start looking at things uh
as everything pertaining to his glory
pertaining to him so that
changes everything in our life uh so
she's
i i mean she had been having crazy uh
gemstone i would
love to share the screen with you
uh to show some of her stuff uh some
gemstones that she's been seeing
uh let me sh i didn't okay by the way
this one
is this one that you're seeing right now
is just uh just before i could
step into this podcast i sent a message
in our
you know we have a group a church group
on whatsapp and i said there's going to
be a serious impartation
of manifestations and angelic stuff
and a lady found this gemstone just
before i could come on the podcast
wow yeah she just sent me a message here
say
saying pastor my mother got this just
now
yeah so we have crazy stuff going on
like
uh let me see where can i find the
gemstones this lady has this girl
used to get uh here look at this one
so one day this girl uh
she comes out from a bathroom and she
sees this huge
angel standing in front of her and
and then the angel just quickly
disappears and then
just at the at the place where the angel
was standing she wounds
she finds this gemstone
that's crazy yeah
this is the gemstone i i can you see a
video right now yeah
yeah so this is the this is the gemstone
uh that i'm holding
it's amazing yeah and
and use you see most of the times
you will i will i will hear stories of
people getting gemstones
gold dust angel feathers and
like 90 of the time it doesn't happen
with me it happens with people who are
connected to me
yeah uh even today even today let me
tell you
today as viewers are watching me and
because
that's that's what i carry is when
people
when i minister online people start
experiencing all this stuff
even as people are watching me now
you will start experiencing gold as
gemstone oil coming from your hand these
are just signs that the
angels are around you and i'm just
bringing you into that consciousness and
an awareness
and it starts happening now in your life
so
i can't see the comments but you will
derek you will be able to see
comments saying that i'm getting
gold dust right now i'm getting oil
right now i can
promise and challenge you it's going to
happen in this podcast
i'm open for it i want to see it too um
i remember i remember seeing those early
videos
the early videos of gold dust and this
was in 1998
when i gave my life to the lord and uh
we would go to uh prayer meetings and
bible studies and
there was a video this old some type of
southern pentecostal church and they got
the tambourines and everybody's
worshipping and
praising the lord and everybody's spirit
strong there
and this one lady she just keeps
touching her head and it's just coming
out of her hair
and it's an old video and it's an old
lady
and they're holding the bible out and
they're just getting all this these gold
flakes
that just keep coming out of her hair
and they got it in the bibles and stuff
and so
this was in 98 that this was happening
you know and
so um and i heard stories the guy who
led me to the
the lord he um he's had experiences with
it in
in encounters and stuff and so i always
wanted it
but even back then i was like expecting
it and wanting it
um i've never seen him but i will tell
you what
i've had a lot of dreams about it like
that expectancy
has allowed me to encounter it in the
dream state there would be these
angelic type dreams that were so real
and walking in faith in my hand there
would be gold
everywhere right so it never translated
over
to the physical but these these
beautiful dreams of
of me encountering the angelic in the
dream state and i would see it there
this was in 1998 and even
several years ago as well but i've never
seen it in person
i've seen a bunch of other miracles
though we can keep going on
yay now now i want to
can you do one thing take take some a
flashlight and try to see it on your
hand
and uh you will see tiny
shining particles it starts small
but as you expectantly look at it it
starts getting more and more
and also those who are watching me now
when i say now
you can keep keep checking right now and
if you are seeing it
uh put it in the comment section below
so we know
and if one person gets it i'm telling
you we all are getting it right now
come on because i feel i feel the
presence i feel the glory i feel the
angelic
i feel the angelic amen now
check it out and put it in the comment
section below
it's going to happen i'm so sure about
it
now right now because there's so much of
angelic right now
if it could happen just before the
podcast people could get this gemstones
yeah see people are getting right now
in your comment section yes
i'm looking yeah
there's gonna be some coming
two people like are commenting right now
so awesome and they are getting it
it's going to be very thin and very thin
uh like very thin sometimes you're gonna
think it's my sweat or it's going to be
but you're going to see it uh them it's
increasing but people
people are getting it on the comment
right now
it's going to happen there was one
instance
we went out of station uh with whole
church
members and we were we were returning
back home
we were coming by train and this
whole train compartment like two
two compartments everyone was filled
with
you know gold dust and
the only guy who was not filled was
myself
so their clothes were with gold dust and
whole hands and everything was filled
with cold dust
then we then we uh when i came and
came home i was wondering why am i not
filled with the gold dust so i have i
shower
and i go and i sit for my dinner and
then i see my whole body is filled with
cold dust
so yeah it can happen any moment
anytime it is the angelic is
crazy they are mysterious
i've been um i've been looking at it a
lot culture myself as far as the angelic
because
i've been caught up on the matter like
the physical manifestations
because for me that proves that they're
real you know what i'm saying
that you i mean you have to i feel like
you have to use the imagination to
engage it
but when when uh the divine steps into
our reality
it's like hey listen like there's no
making it up
it all becomes real because they step in
and so for me of doing the the
stargazing and
and praying under the stars asking to
see them traveling from heaven to earth
and those things and so
i would see them my mind was blown and i
knew that they were real
i knew that they were traveling
interdimensionally and back and forth
through portals from heaven to earth
literally coming back and forth the
scripture says that they carry
prayers and essences and they carry um
vibrations and they
all kinds of things and so i was able to
see that and i was addicted to it i was
going out every day
and just staring up at the stars and
praying father
allowed me to see them and i saw them
changed my life
wrecked me and uh and i knew that it was
real and they would come in literally
like i seen i seen the heavenly host as
a fleet as an army
papa in in the daytime pop into our
reality
and they looked like they looked like
lines they like bars
black bars and then they were cloaked
and then they would turn and then they
would be these beautiful white orbs
and they would show their glory and then
they would cloak and hide their glory
and they would come back and forth and
so was like 70 of them in the in the
sky as far as the eye could see and um
they allowed me to see him three or four
times and they flashed to me and then
they just disappeared
and went away can you there is a there
is a there is a comment right now
uh saying one person has got angelic
feather right now
wow
bro i'm starting to see it bro
not like yes for real there was one that
i was looking at and there's more
popping up but it's only like
it's only two so i need more i need more
so that i can't i can't
that i can't make it up i don't want to
make it up and the lord i tell you what
i saw breakthrough in my life when we
started praying in prayer
when my my prayer when in the laying on
of hands and things at the altar
and at prayer meetings was lord nothing
fake and nothing made up
so going into it that i want proof
father nothing fake nothing made up but
you're
real man so i'm praying that right now
father nothing fake nothing made up
father but show yourself strong
cause i'm starting to see a couple but i
don't wanna i don't wanna think i don't
wanna connect dots that aren't there but
father i want to see
the gold dust i've been wanting to see
it since 1998 lord let me see it come on
more
more more more and more and more i want
to see more lord
i see a couple i ain't gonna lie i see i
see two
on this hand come on in the uh
in the light it's gonna increase as we
as we keep on talking it's gonna
increase over your life
but uh the person who just commented
also has whatsapp me the feather the
person
she has gods look at the feather
wow angel feathers
what is the significance with the
feathers
yeah as i said these are just signs
uh that that just uh
show up according to what you believe
so if you're not going to believe in
that it's not going to happen with you
but if you're going to believe that this
is a sign
for me that an angel is with me
then it's going to happen so
i want to show just to build up the
expectations of people
just to see people now as they are
watching me
manifestations to happen in their life
now
i want to show you my screen uh share my
screen
uh you know and just show some of the
manifestation this is a gemstone
uh which we received just now people
here it's
it's about oil but i don't think so
you'll be able to see it properly here
the lady has oil coming here
and on the thumb so these are all people
who my minister
minister online these are not even
physically with me so here people are
getting gemstone they all whatsapp me
and minister there to them
uh like uh
i wanna show you some look at this
gemstones here
wow like crazy stuff like blue ones look
at this one
uh feathers
wow people see feathers uh as they talk
there's like small feathers
uh
okay all these people are getting uh
i'm in india these people are from uk
some are from uh
other part of india some are from uh
other
countries they get it in a crazy places
this gemstone is here
found underneath a laptop
so crazy places crazy places
that's awesome look here
i i want to show you uh some crazy gold
dust
uh somewhere where is it
okay here is a gemstones like one lady
got around 7-0
70 gemstones
all together here 70 gemstones
i want to show you some
feather this feather was manifested in
in uk where one of our church
members house is beautiful blue color
i want to tell you about this feather uh
this one this feather
we were preaching online on angels
and as this girl was watching this
video this feather manifested and later
in three or four months time it double
up
it was kept in a container like this and
there was another feather found
in the same container so crazy stuff
like that
uh these are some gemstones here
uh
this one this feather was a crazy
feather
in our church service it appeared in
someone's back
and the bag was completely closed and no
one touched it
there's a beautiful golden feather
look at this wow
so this is gold dust
gold dust i've also heard about people
getting gold
teeth gold fillings in their mouths what
they have
yeah yeah but uh i'm i'm looking forward
for it
but uh uh we have not yet got it but we
have
we had like batteries recharged
uh in one service like people's
batteries which were
dead recharged people
like in one service seven people their
batteries were recharged
uh from zero to hundred zero to eighty
percent
all that stuff
yeah that's awesome again like what i'm
saying about
seeing the uh the angels that's
something that are out there right
that was that was the thing what i'm
stepping into now uh because i was
i got comfortable with them being out
there i got comfortable with them
watching over us and traveling to us
right
and those angels and for some reason
that became like
my plumb line for angels versus
now the lord had me step into this
season where i'm releasing the angels
where i'm working with them not not
these big
uh principality entities powers that are
over nations and traveling back and
forth
but ones that are as close as the breath
so there's a there's a meditation in
this activation that i've been doing
is the angels of the most holy breath
and so the lord showed them to me as
as uh pixels and atoms and molecules and
very tiny
entities that go forth from you
and they they line things up and
orchestrate it as you pray
and it's about being conscious of it
it's about following them and seeing
them going out doing that stuff the 333s
the 11 11 synchronicities the tv saying
the same thing that that
you've thought that day that these
thoughts like they line all of that up
they are his workmanship they go out and
they do it and so
when you pray and bring about
manifestation or you ask for the new job
they're out there like a chess piece god
is god is orchestrating it but the
angels go out and move stuff around so
that it lines up for you
in your favor uh they are ministering
spirits
for those who are to inherit eternal
life
and so they're here to minister to us
we're here to work with them and so
being conscious and aware of them
i've been working with them and been
seeing manifestation happen in my life
like even like just testing it out to
see if it's real
to see if it's not just you know some
some weird
crazy thought that i'm having but like
sending them out on specific missions
and asking for manifestation as a way to
can you do this
can you go out and align this i need
this in my life this is something that
that is near and dear to my heart that
i'm i need help with can you do it and
working with the angels and they go out
and do it and manifestation is happening
and
you have not for you ask not and i'm
simply asking for the will of the father
he's given me his will
he's giving me his heart and then i'm
sending out the angels to go out and do
it
on my behalf now that doesn't turn into
something that is just
just about yourself like it's okay to
ask for things right god loves to bless
us and he's a
he loves the cheerful giver he is the
cheerful giver
he gave a son for us all he's the
cheerful giver so
he loves to give gifts to his children
so for us asking for things it's okay
but also stepping but if you get that's
see that's where the prosperity movement
messed up
is they stop with just asking more and
more i want more i want more
but stepping into it where you're giving
it to others
you're asking for others you're
petitioning heaven for others and we're
stepping out
believing for others for their healing
for their joy for their peace
and so blessed are the peacemakers
that's where we step into it we're
already blessed because we're allowing
others to step into the same
encounter the peace the rest the love of
god that is our inheritance and they can
step into it as well
let's not just come see us it's not just
look at us it's like for you too for you
to experience this as well absolutely
absolutely absolutely yeah yeah i love i
like what you're saying
uh it's this dimension is not somewhere
far away i just want to bring the
scripture
uh to people if you read hebrews chapter
12 verse 22
it says but you have come to mount zion
it says now you have come to mount zion
and to the city of the living god the
heavenly jerusalem
to an innumerable company of angels
so it's telling you that you have
already come to zion
you have already come to jerusalem you
have already come
within in the in a company of
innumerable angel this is my favorite
verse of the bible
i feed on it every time i speak it out
every time i listen to it
like i get goosebumps because i start
really living in that reality
it's our reality it's our inheritance
it's a portion
uh that we are surrounded by this
angelic
and as you said we can they are
ministering spirits
they can do crazy jobs for you
you see and the synchronicity of 11 11
all that stuff
like for me i've seen financial
finances coming into my account like
without
asking anybody i don't preach on
finances
i don't preach so called as the
prosperity gospel
but i just dwell into the reality
of my identity in christ and reality of
where
i am placed in i am placed in heaven
that's my that's my address somebody ask
me where is your where do you stay
vernal i will say i stay
in hebrews chapter 12 verse 22.
that's my address so if you know your
dress well
uh where you stay you will you will see
that the angelic will manifest finances
will automatically will come to you
you don't have to run after it yeah
you just have to build it up yeah you
just have to believe it
uh one time i had a crazy synchronicity
uh you know i i wake up early
not early morning i wake up at exactly
at 11
11 so when i wake up at 11 11
i i look at my phone it's 11 11 and then
somebody sends me a message
and says hey vernal what's your account
number i want to send you some money
and exactly at that time then
a same person a person with the same
name who's in another country also sends
me a message saying what's your account
number i want to send
some money and i'm looking what's going
on i
wake up at 11 11 and both are asking me
my account number
and one person i have not even met
personally yeah
and as i'm as i'm looking at the
messages i'm also thinking about a woman
in another another country uh
and as i'm thinking i get a message on
my
mobile phone saying that she has
transferred certain amount of money into
my account
so can you believe it three people are
transferring money
and and that synchronicity this is
angelic this is what i'm saying there's
there's there's dimensional uh stuff
that is happening
and crazy stuff that happens with the
angelic rail
i've seen it and so a lot of times we
think it's it's a miracle and so
miracles don't happen all the time right
they're just like
you know once a year once every five
years if they're even real
but it's like the very fact that we're
still alive the very fact that we're
conscious of his love
we are miracles right and so
uh it it happens all the time if you're
aware of it
um and so but it used to be something
rare
it used to be something rare like oh god
showed up but listen every day god is
showing up
the synchronicities every day there i
love that story
if god has given you the vision he will
also give you the provision to do it and
guess what people will link in with you
they will partner with you to help
see that that that vision come to pass
many times you have not for you ask not
you don't you're just keeping it to
yourself
you haven't asked the lord then you
haven't asked people you haven't put the
vision out there hey
anybody would like to see this this is
what it costs to fund it whether it's a
church and paying for the
bills and paying for the rent all that
kind of stuff put it out there people
are aligned to it as many people it's
their ministry
to fund what you're doing like they have
an
over you know abundance of money
and they're here to support and and you
haven't made your need known right
but god will send you those people in
your life and so
i remember when we first started seeing
god move like this man years ago
um i i just started working my first job
this was in uh uh
two what was this 2001 i think it was
well it's my my first real job me and my
girl
were uh living by ourselves and so um
the guy who led me to the lord fell upon
hard times and he lost his job
and so i had my first paycheck
and we paid our bills and i had a
hundred dollars extra
we go to church and after church we're
gonna go to
go to the mall i was gonna buy a hundred
dollars worth of clothes i've never
went and bought a hundred dollars worth
of clothes at this point right it didn't
that was the first kind of money i
really had so um we'll go to this
after church we're all praying together
we used to tarry we used to when
when they would church was over we would
gather around the altar and continue to
pray
they'd have to kick us out the church
and we'd go outside and keep praying
and we'd have all these young people
everybody praying and the lord was just
moving and his glory was showing up
strong
when we came uh to the lord and um
so we're out there praying and i knew
that this
brother who i really look up to and uh
he was on hard times financially you
know and so
i had this hundred dollars in my pocket
we're about to go you know after we're
done praying we're going to spend it and
i was looking forward to it and the lord
spoke to me and said give him that
hundred dollars
and i'm like oh man this is the devil
the devil is trying to take my little
hundred dollars you know we always
we always go to the devils trying to
take from us or whatever
and uh and it wouldn't go away and i'm
praying i'm like lord is this you
he's like yeah give him the hundred
dollars he needs it right now
just give it to him and i pulled my wife
to the side and i'm like hey i feel like
the lord's telling me to give him this
hundred dollars and um
she's like well if you feel like it's
god then then do it and so
he's praying for somebody and i just
kind of fold it up and just kind of
stick it in his pocket without him
noticing or whatever a bunch of people
around i get close to him and
wedging in there and so okay it's the
lord i was obedient obedience is better
than sacrifice
so this was like in september come
december
uh coming upon christmas time you know
we were
uh paying our bills and all that and we
come up
short on our rent we come up short
on our rent and it was a hundred dollars
short and so we're we're praying we're
believing that god's going to show up
we're asking him to meet our needs and
those kind of things and we're believing
we don't know how he's going to do it
and so um
come uh i got home from work late and
went
like uh i went mud riding with some guys
here in the country who just went mud
riding
and i come home a little bit late and i
walk inside
and my wife's on her knees uh with the
lights down low crying and i thought
like i didn't know what was going on i
thought she was just upset that i i was
late or something i come in i said
what's wrong she's got worship music
playing on and i said what's that what's
wrong she said
she handed me a a note and it was a
folded-up envelope
that just said merry christmas derek and
aaron and it had a hundred dollars in it
and we were a hundred dollars short on
our rent we didn't tell nobody nobody
knew that we needed
a hundred dollars to to pay our rent for
the month
and um somebody just wrote merry
christmas it made it look like a little
kid wrote it they didn't have no name no
return address
and it was in our mailbox we got it and
it was enough to pay our rent so
i'm i believe that because i stepped out
in faith and i sowed into
you know my elder's life that god
took it as an investment and gave it
back to me when i needed it
you know what i'm saying and that was
like early on we would see god continue
to do that in these miracles and show up
financially and
unexpected checks you know you quit a
job and
like a job that you hadn't been working
at for four months and then you get
another check
oh here's your your pay that we forgot
to pay you it's like
four hundred dollars of crazy stuff you
know god was always showing up
financially but it was always a miracle
it was always like hope he does it
versus expecting him versus our
relationship
with scarcity or our relationship with
money to change to know that
i don't believe that god wants to show
up and keep us
begging for him to pay our bills he
doesn't want us to he don't want to keep
us at this place financially
where we're just living from paycheck to
paycheck hoping that we get a blessing
hoping that we get a a check in the mail
with a hundred dollars so that we can
pay our bills
he'll lead us and he guides us and he
takes care of us because you'll never
see the righteous forsaken
you'll never see the godly begging for
bread so he does that he makes sure that
we
make sure that we're okay but he wants
to impart to us the wisdom
to be able to uh create and generate
wealth on our own
the scripture says that i have given you
the ability to create wealth to gain
wealth
and it says that he will use your gifts
to put you in front of great people
and your gifts will make room for you
and you already have the things within
you that the lord
wants to bring out so that you can make
a great living
not to be begging people or barely
getting by or
wondering if the lights are going to be
cut off listen early on if that's where
your faith is he'll meet you there
but the same faith that takes this to
step out it's just a mustard seed
to step out to generate wealth for
yourself to know that god's going to
show up
whether that's working with the angelic
because they are the ones who who
orchestrate this stuff the lord says it
from his throne
he's already said it in his word so you
don't have to read you have to ask him
see if he's going to re-say it
he's already said it but it's the angels
who go about and do it and he wants us
to work with them and to see them out
there doing it and it gives the glory
back to the father
because it's his will he says the word
they do it it's what happens
but he's already said the word so we're
here to
release them to work with them to see
them out there doing it man and i just
pray that that's a
a testimony for somebody man that god's
going to meet your needs don't worry
about that
that's that should be the the last thing
on your mind but
but but being at a place where he you
don't have to beg
you don't have to be broke you don't
have to be you don't have to wonder
and so there's a spirit behind that too
with that poverty thing is that
a lot of people that's their trust in
god like
that that's how they trust them is that
he meets their needs because they don't
have anything
and so he continues to give them a
hundred dollars every month
or three hundred dollars whatever it is
and so for some people to step
out on their own the fear there is that
i don't have to trust the lord anymore
because he has now
taught me and trained me in
righteousness where i can go out and get
wealth on my own
but i'll tell you he's going to blow
your mind he's going to you're going to
have to start trusting them in
bigger and bigger and bigger things
and so that's a testimony for me in my
life and
wealth and money and your relationship
with it changes and
um god is for you man if god is for you
who can be against you
lack you know nothing could be
nothing nothing could be against you so
completely i i completely in this uh
since this corona issue has been going
on
uh churches are close i also teach music
apart from uh having my church services
and leading a church so the music
institute has been closed
so there has been no no financial
uh flow you know
but in this around six three four months
time trust me i did not
beg anybody any amount
but trust me like i would get like so
much of financial inflow
into my life like crazy people from
singapore
people from uh gulf countries
like people whom i have never seen in my
life
glory just come and put
money in the account sometimes like
miracle money comes in
yeah like we i've seen crazy miracle
money
coming in people getting money into the
accounts
into their accounts and when they go to
the bank and try to
verify uh from where it has come the
the people cannot find out the bank
people cannot find out from where the
money has come
so crazy stuff like that there was one
lady
india had a change of
um you know the notes the currency notes
and people were
would stand in line in a queue
to to get the money the new currency
note
but i know that one lady got this new
currency note
in her cupboard just like that
so crazy stuff happened and i believe
that
the angels would would assist us to get
this miracle done
in our life like stuff that happens in
our church
you know sometimes i have no worries at
all when there is a when i see a lag
when i face a lag because i know the
next moment
my lack is going to be no more so
i've seen fuel increasing people
uh fuel starts increasing
you know crazy stuff crazy stuff there
was once
even people who would go and buy
vegetables
they would put it in the refrigerator
and they would close and open it again
and they were double
uh what like i have a testimony a person
buys a broccoli
puts it in the refrigerator close it
down then opens it back again the
broccoli now there are two broccolis
so crazy stuff have happened so uh
yeah the reason we are speaking about
this is so that everyone who is watching
us
you may experience the same because we
live
in a crazy world uh in a blessed world
you and i are really blessed to be in
this age actually
yeah it's awesome and again god meeting
you where you are
your faith it's the same faith though
that's what people need to understand
it's not a big exuberant faith it's not
a next level
the same faith that god you know
paid your little hundred dollar bill
he's gonna pay the you know the five
thousand dollar house note like whatever
it is like
it's the same faith there's nothing else
it's a faith as small as a mustard seed
you just got to believe yes and then
believing is one thing but
start confessing it my prayer time
is uh is i pray and i commune with the
father but there
is a and i'm i'm doing a huge teaching
on this i'm getting all the notes but
uh if there's a prophetic release in my
prayer life there is not a
i ask the father i get his heart i see
what it is for my life for my future the
download of what where i'm supposed to
go and then i begin releasing it
then i begin to work with the angels i
begin to speak to the wind
the breath and i begin to work with the
father so my prayer life is communion
with him
and then he shows me what it is that i
need where we're going and then i begin
to release it
i begin to release it over to my podcast
i begin to release it over people that
people's lives are going to be changed
and you step into this flow with the
father where you're just releasing
the flow of heaven you're seeing it's
only it's on earth as it is in heaven
you see what it looks like in heaven you
get his heart it's all love
it's all beautiful it's all prosperity
it's all peace
it's all mercy it's all justice and you
just release that into the earth
speak it and it shows itself to you as
you
just having a belief is one thing but
you know this Romans 10 9 was huge for
me
where it's like the and it talks about
it on salvation but it is a universal
principle
you believe in your heart or in your
mind they're connected
they're both minds the heart is a mind
as well you know that
but then that's one thing to walk around
knowing something
but it's another thing when they connect
with the tongue and with vibration and
you release it you can believe whatever
you want to believe
but unless you speak it out but unless
you ask
unless you confess it you're not going
to see it so it's having those those
inner desires and thoughts and not just
holding them in but confessing them
doing that in a a state of of of
of prophesying declaring as the oracles
of god
um as he's already said and
i started seeing breakthrough i start
working with the angels i start stepping
out
and seeing it and i'll tell you i mean i
got so many miracles with this man so
many that i even forget
there was one time where i hadn't done
any concerts in a long time because i
you know i do spiritual hip hop so
i was like you know what i want to start
doing some more concerts and let me just
get before the lord let me ask him
and let me call it and i spoke it out
lord i'm
asking for this and then right now the
concert
to open up whoever needs me wherever i'm
the most
effective with doing a concert father
i'm asking for this and then i'm calling
it to me
within an hour uh one of the biggest
concerts i've ever did somebody messaged
me
on an email and said hey would do you
mind opening up for this artist
a major recording artist they wanted
like and i hadn't done shows in months
hadn't done anything in a long time and
i was like you know what i want one let
me call it let me ask my father
and then let me speak it into existence
and he's like okay i got you
he whoever this person was whether it's
a he person wasn't even a believer it
don't matter
he puts he puts it in front of them
whether it's my music or a thought hey
let me call
let me send him a message and set it up
so so many so many when it comes to
i can i can just think about it that's
one thing but when you when it joins
with the tongue and you confess it you
create it
you know the uh mystical uh verbiage for
abracadabra
i create it as i speak it that's what
the word abracadabra when you would see
a magician who would
pull a rabbit out of a hat the essence
is there is no rabbit in the hat
and then abracadabra and here it is boom
there it goes
that comes from i created as i speak it
and that's really what we do as like we
create our reality
as we confess it absolutely absolutely i
feel
and i believe you know the whole whole
realms of the miracle
is more into tuning into the frequency
of god so and there are
so many ways out there the more higher
is your frequency
the more you will see things manifesting
in your life
so uh it's so important sometimes to
uh spray in tongues uh it's so important
to
spend time in fasting and increasing
that frequency of yours
uh it's so important you know to have
joy i and you know joy is so important
for that frequency to be there so
the more you are always high frequency
you are tuning into the angelic you're
tuning into the miracle realm
you're tuning into healing realm because
now
and it becomes so easy later on you know
easy later on elect
even now i'm seeing some of the comments
right now
uh on the youtube people are just
putting in somebody is getting oil
somebody is getting gold ass silver dust
angel feather all that stuff this is
because
right now we are talking about it we are
raising a frequency and i literally feel
you know sometimes when i feel that i
feel my tingling sensation in my hand
tingling in my body and i believe it's
happening it's going to increase
things are just going to happen now
miracle money
gold as gemstones uh healing it's going
to take place right now as people watch
us
and listen to this because you are
literally getting
something called as quantum entangled to
what we are sharing right now you are
literally getting
quantum entangled together and i love
the what what what you said
for anything to manifest the heart and
the mind has to be one
your subconscious and your conscious has
to align together
and has to be as to be shown through an
action
by speaking and declaring into into it
so when your subconscious your heart and
your mind
is aligned that's why it says uh
believe in jesus uh and
confess with your mouth believe in your
heart
and confess with your mouth so your
subconscious your
conscious has to align to what you are
uh what you want to manifest in your
life and when you speak it it will
happen
what's the uh i'm trying to find a
scripture uh but without faith it is
impossible
to please him for he who comes to god
must believe that he is a rewarder
to those that diligently seek him
it ain't that you have to kind of
believe it
or it's an option to believe it it says
that you
must believe that he is a rewarder
for those that diligently seek him what
is those rewards
for me it's more of his presence for me
it's ever-increasing joy
it's more peace for me it is financial
blessing it's a reward of a financial
blessing that he's going to meet my
needs i don't have to beg
him you know he's not a sugar daddy he
doesn't like want us begging
he knows that we trust him but it's that
you must believe
that you kind of believe that because
this is what kind of a god he is
he ain't a god where you have to go out
and and toil and
and beg and all that kind of stuff you
must believe that he is
a diligent rewarder for those who seek
seek after him
and and his reward is peace it's his
presence
his reward is miracles his his reward is
authority it is renowned in the earth
it is platform it is prestige so that
you carry influence and your words carry
power
your words carry weight because you've
been faithful
with what you've been given all of that
stuff works out together but
so it's not that like i'd say the
majority of of christians would
in the christian church or have this
gnostic idea
that they are suffering servants that i
have to do without
that that um you know the wealth you
know
you know money equals
hard work that money equals wickedness
that the love of money is the
root of all evil or that money is the
root of all evil when that's not what
that scripture teaches right
we have this bad view when it comes to
god's hand
his provision and his blessings on our
lives and we got to work to undo that
stuff
for sure he wants to reward you he loves
it
he's already rewarded you the thing is
you can't see it
you can't see it you have to you have to
go comb through your life
and see where he's blessing me you can't
see it
take it take a deep breath you still got
breath in your lungs
put your hand over your heart
your heart's still beating come on now
listen
uh attitude of gratitude and honor and
he steps into that and god is able to
work in that
because he's because he's blessing you
he is a rewarder
you're still here you can still claim
yourself on the earth
absolutely i i love what you're saying
and
this is so true because if you
understand what is love
you have you you even if you are not a
christian
if you know what is love you know who is
jesus
yeah you know who is god yeah
if you know what is love you know who is
god
so you you need to understand god
is love so wherever you see goodness
love you if
you know i believe you in this world
there cannot be an atheist
because everybody at some point believes
in love
if you believe in love you cannot say
you are an atheist
you are believing in god
yep and that's what it means because
people get caught up on
on the christianese and the religious
aspect of it
god transcends religion he's he has he's
not concerned with
you know what's going on in politics and
in the christian church and what they
think god is listen god is so far
removed
we got to look to the east that's why i
love you that's why i love your culture
as well because when we talk about
meditation
and prayer and healing and going into
trance like
that christianity came from the east
true christianity comes from the east
we've we've turned it into a monopoly
in the west and that's not what it's
supposed to be so when you're trying to
get a vision
of what jesus looks like we got to look
to the east we we have to
and so um what what does that look like
for the individual like
it transcends religion god is love like
you said like whatever that is to you
un loving without conditions and he
shows up his name isn't jesus ladies and
gentlemen
he answers by that name yeah for sure
because when we're calling
upon that name we're calling upon the
character we're calling upon his
character
and his character is love his character
is peace his character is joy that's
who he is he's a provider he's a strong
tower he's a shelter of defense he's
he's what he's i am that i am i am
whatever you need me to be
if you need me to pay your bills listen
i'm your bill player that's who i am i'm
showing up as
it if you need him to fight your enemies
and to take up for you
guess what he shows up at a as a as a
brother you know what i'm saying to step
up hey man quit quit messing with my
friends you know what i'm saying
he's that mother bear robbed of his cub
he is possessive
he is jealous of us man he's jealous for
us man i'll say that not of us but for
us
um just like we are with with our wives
and our our
you know spouses you know you're jealous
you want to spend time with them you get
upset when they're spending too much
time with other people and not paying
attention
the same way it is it's a relationship
with the creator
of the universe which is true
christianity it is not a workspace
religion
it is that god became a man to seek
after us to seek after that which was
lost which was us
most other religions are you have to do
things to be accepted by god
but god has sought after you and he has
made provisions to call you righteous to
call you just
in his eyes and that's where grace is
imputed every for everyone
just believe yeah let's step into it
it's
it's so important you know that's the
reason it's so important
even when you're reading the scriptures
you need to read it with the lenses of
love
and you need to interpret the scriptures
with love
because what many christians do is they
take the scriptures and they want to say
i want to
release the truth but and and
and they want to convert somebody they
want to
try to change somebody without love
but with the scriptures so the letter
kills
but the spirit the love the spirit which
is love
gives life so uh scriptures
is important but if you're missing the
love part of it
you're missing the scriptures you're
really not understanding the heart of
god
so it's so important to to to
read the scriptures uh through through
real
heart of uh knowing that knowing the
character of god
uh and yeah so as you said
christianity is actually eastern eastern
religious philosophy it has come from
the east
not from the west but uh if you really
look into the future the missionaries
and all the stuff
the whole whole thing was manipulated to
bring religion to create a monopoly
saying this is right and all other
things are wrong
all other things are demonic that's why
now people
are seeing more demons why because
we've been preaching people that
everything out there is demonic
and if you want to see everything
demonic then let me tell you
everything is demonic the clothes you
wear is demonic
the breath you breathe is demonic if you
say
because the bible will say uh the the
prince of the world is the devil so
the world is demonic you will say but
the same bible will say
that you are kings and priests
on this earth the same bible will say
that
god is the king of this earth
so it it is so important to read the
scriptures with the right attitude
and the right heart and that's where
you will start experiencing benefits of
the scripture
or else the scripture just becomes
a kind of a theological book and you
will never experience
the experiences in your life so
uh you know i submit to people
go ahead and have a life of experience
not just theoretical theoretically
having scriptures and knowledge inside
of you
but a lot of experiences you know that's
why i i
i have i try to integrate i try to
integrate
uh different technology prayer
technology
i try to integrate from different
philosophies like via
icu we we try to integrate it
like meditations breath work
uh picking up stuff that the catholics
were using
picking up stuff uh that the hindus were
using
like praying with the beads all this
technology
is wonderful it's beautiful if you
take it to connect with the divine
source
your life can really be more beautiful
let me tell you let me tell you people
in the new age
people who are non-christians
let me tell you they they live more
experiential life they live more
god kind of life than christians
you see what do i mean is
uh you will see they will carry more
love for you
and for people around than christians
out here
because we want to live by the letter we
don't want to live by the spirit
we want to demonize it oh he is from
another religion
that guy is from another denomination
that guy is not from another church
so we don't want to mix with that guy
because now
our views are different and the theology
i follow is different
and that guy is following different
theology so we are not having love
you see christians are the most uh
lonely people on earth
why because they cannot really love
those those are all conditions right the
conditions
they have all conditions they have all
theology in their mind
and they have all they have all the
reasons to uh
point out differences yeah
you see they have all the reason to
point out different
because they look better but but when
your consciousness change to look for
what makes us the same
what makes us the same as the hindu
as the jehovah's witness as the muslim
what makes us the same there's a lot of
similarities that you're not you're not
looking at there are things that
that make you different for sure but if
you keep looking you're looking for
reasons to
separate yourself because first of all
you feel like you're more accepted that
god loves you more
than the hindu god loves you more than
the muslim
you're sadly mistaken you're sadly
mistaken
uh you know uh if you really go to
com really in depth read the bible
you will see uh heger
left abraham and she was running
from abraham and you will see
an angel coming and helping higa
two times she was running from sarah and
abraham
now heka he was not a jew she was not
a so-called uh in that circle
but she experienced angel two times
that is what god is he
does not look and that is what spirit
realm is
the angelic god is not looking
who you are or who
what kind of spiritual circle you follow
it just it just releases love over your
life and if you can accept that love
you are a beneficiary yeah
Psalm 103 2 bless the lord
o my soul and forget not
all of his benefits for getting out all
his benefits hey the script
why you guys are only talking about
blessings why what about his judgment
what about
destruction what about listen he said
forget forget not all his benefits man
there are benefits to serving the lord
and if that's true yeah there's the
opposite there
are um what would you call it there
are um what's not a benefit
there are consequences for not serving
him
right if there are benefits for serving
him there are consequences for not
serving him
you got to deal you got to deal you got
to atone for your own sin
you have you have a con a consciousness
or conscious that is
that is uh not washed in the blood or
the river
of love because there's you have to
prove yourself
you're you are judged about what you do
and not who you are or who you are
there's so much you know uh that
there's benefits to serving the lord and
so that's why we want to talk about this
that's why we want to talk about
the authority and the renown and the
love and the peace and the angelic and
you know you're just kind of thrown
around you don't know you're trying to
figure it out
all of it it's good it's part of your
story but there are benefits
to serving the lord for sure and we can
go on for days and days and days and
days
and and talk about them hey let's do
this man we only got a few minutes left
let's um put on put on some some higher
frequency music let me know if you can
you can hear this music there let me go
ahead and share it with you brother
let's uh there's people who are who are
hurting man there's people who have
questions there's people whose faith is
increased already from listening to this
and
i'm reading in the comments for those
who are listening live and then for
those who are listening on the
podcasting apps too they want more they
want to experience this stuff it's not
real
it's not real for them yet you know they
want to
tap into it so let's release that over
them
um come on however you want to do it i
know you i know
we've and and the key is we've been
releasing it over them let's just say
that
and teaching it and exalting the lord
because how good he is we're releasing
it but let's do that just for a few
minutes man for those people who just
want to
feel that tangible peace feel that
tangible presence and that increase in
their life
come on
all those who are watching just you can
just as an act of faith can just raise
your hands
or just touch the screen right now
and i want you to be partaking
into what we experience we just release
it over your life right now
you guys are gonna experience come on
that the frequency of heaven
hallelujah
thank you yahweh we bless you right now
god i thank you for everyone listening
thank you for everyone watching god lord
you know exactly where they are
you know exactly how many hairs are on
the top of their heads
you knew them before they were formed
and knitted within their mother's womb
father you know exactly where they are
father i pray that you will use them for
your glory
i pray that even now that your tangible
love just begin to fill up their bodies
let them feel how much you love them
lord wrap your
loving arms around them so that they
feel the weighty presence of your warmth
lord turning the hearts of stone and
turning the cold hearts
that they're now burning within them
for the things of god lord that you just
give them a peaceful spirit father those
who are looking for rest i pray you give
them rest right now god
in jesus name rest for the weary
peace for the traveler in jesus name god
right now just send it to him lord more
more more more increase increase
increase
love peace joy now in jesus
mighty amen amen release release angels
release miracles early signs
release wonders right now
let there be more manifestation to show
you
signs that the angels are around you
right now many of you are going to see
miracles as a sign that god loves you
as a sign that he is madly in love with
you
you will see cold dust
feathers gemstones oil coming from your
hand
angelic lights orbs at the
side of your eyes you will see light
shining
these are signs of god's love for you
we don't run after science but signs
follow us because he loves us
he loves us right now we release
release it be filled come on
take that frequency drink from this
drink from this drink from this
your whole room is filled with angels
now
your whole food room is filled with the
frequency of god's love in jesus name
come on yes god i speak financial
increase for those who are struggling
just so that they would know that it's a
miracle father god that they know that
you show up in that way that you care
about their finances you care
about their provisions father lord one
of your names is jehovah
jireh you are our provider god i'm
asking you to show up in your life
as the provider right now lord whatever
it is father first of all give them that
peace
to stop doubting father but show them a
tangible miracle lord
tangible miracle whatever it is if it's
that unexpected check
whatever it is father increase in jesus
name lord
that the promises of god are yes and
amen
father we speak as the oracles of god
lord we release your blessings
your grace and your peace lord just to
go down to the deepest parts of their
soul to be able to
stand in that peace when the world is
going
left and right and confusion and chaos
in babylon father god right now they can
stand upon a solid rock which is a firm
foundation in christ
jesus mighty name and i just again we've
talked about the scriptures i just want
to encourage you
if you've never opened the bible before
i want to encourage you i've been
releasing this and i just see it again
opening it start in matthew chapter 5
and don't read it as you're reading a
book read it
and ask the father to reveal himself to
you reveal his heart to you
open the scriptures as it's a mystical
experience with him and i guarantee you
he will speak to your heart
and he will reveal himself to you if
you've never done it if you've never
read the scriptures even if you haven't
it's been a long time
matthew chapter five open it up begin to
read and ask the father to reveal
himself to you
father god invade their lives more of
your presence more of your glory in
jesus
mighty name thank you lord amen and amen
amen amen
i feel the presence man i feel the
frequency holy ghost
holy ghost holy ghost holy ghost
so good peace peace peace peace
that's awesome you're doing that buzzing
the buzzing sound we've been doing that
as well with the uh with the release
with the breath work
now release the buzzing noise just uh
being vocal releasing it
the one who is the man the one who was
and the one who is to come
to receive all glory in all honor
lord we just lay our idols down before
you lord that you would search our heart
father into anything that is not of you
that's clogging up our vision if we're
beholding things that you're not in
father we lay them down right now
lord we repent of any wickedness father
god any secret way in our heart lord
that we're
holding from you father even as our
heart is an altar we lay it down
that your fire would consume it we
freely give
we freely give you the burdens we freely
give you the doubt
the worry the insecurity the addictions
we lay them down
at your altar right now father that you
would receive them that you would
consume them as a sacrifice
and send forth your fire lord more of
your fire more of your grace god as we
come to the end of ourselves and we step
into who you say
we are our true identity seated in the
heavens
with christ god where all is perfect
where
all is love where there is an ever
increasing abundance in that river and
that flow of love
from heaven to earth to my friend right
now jesus name
more lord amen amen
amen hallelujah
i'm drunk
i'm drunk in his presence soaked
completely
i believe people are being drunk
we pray for healings right now healing
of
mind body soul your emotions
now people who are having sadness in
your heart
you will burst out with laughter all
your emotions
some of you will have tears in your eyes
all your emotions are going to just come
out
because the love of god is gonna touch
you right now
it's gonna overwhelm you right now
right now some will burst out with
laughter
the angels are gonna tickle you right
now
jesus name
relieve release love
the purest form of love over you right
now
if you have feel abandoned rejected
lonely let that love fill you
right now
let your cup overflow
yes
thank you thank you thank you
thank you father
hallelujah thank you it's not coming
it's not coming it's already there
amen just shift your awareness of what
already is for you he's not going to
give you
he's not going to forgive you he already
has and so just by faith i want you to
close your eyes
close your eyes and i want you to
receive it see yourself stepping into it
by faith step into what already is it's
just
one step boom right
you didn't have to there anything you
didn't have to go anywhere
it already is it's a it's a truth that
is now imparted
in jesus name amen
healing in your body right now if you
have pain in your body
right now you will be healed
right now place your hand in a place
where you have pain in your body place
your hand
in a place where you have pain in the
body right now
you will be healed in jesus name
be healed be healed the love of god the
father
your body pain is going to go away now
now now
thank you thank you just receive it it's
there right now
just receive it receive it
without any judgment without any
condemnation
without any second thought just receive
it
just receive it he loves you receive his
love
if you receive his love you receive your
miracle you receive
his healing you receive everything that
you require
he loves you
jesus
amen amen and amen thank you guys for
hanging out with us for this
this long um man prophet i
uh i always love connecting with you man
and uh thank you save me here hanging
out with me
and uh working with you i see see what
you're doing man you're doing
it's increasing you know and uh you're
making it real you're making it
uh applicable for people it's not it's
not a theory
they can step into it they can weigh it
and that's the beautiful thing it
becomes real
you know it's not just a theory just for
some people it's for everyone
who would believe so thank you for your
work bro if people want to follow you
people want to check out your work your
podcast everything that you got going on
what's the best place that they can
follow you at
yeah so uh you can follow me on facebook
vernell sicura and you can follow me
on my youtube channel it's called
sciencegate
church so you can just search it on
you youtube and you can follow me there
and also if you want to be part of any
activities we have every morning
meditations and all that stuff
you can just drop in a message on my
facebook
and get connected to us thank you god
bless you
and i appreciate you derek i love you so
much honestly
i'm not just uh buttering you up
but uh feelings mutual man we gotta do
more together we gotta do we have to do
more teachings
more glory encounters i wanna come see
you like
we're gonna we're gonna make it happen
bro i wanna do more with you and i'm
aligned with your work
too so sure sure we hopefully we're
going to see you here in india and goa
and we're going to have you here uh you
know
looking forward for uh spending time
with you
so yeah love you man all right brother
i'll talk with you soon many blessings
thanks again
samia bye shalom shalom goodbye everyone
we'll do it again very soon peace peace
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