The Nephilim  Fallen Angels and Demons of the Bible  Gary Wayne
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the show unless I have somebody who I
consider being an expert in the field so
man thank you so much for coming on here
hanging out with me for a little bit
welcome to the show well thank you for
inviting me and extremely happy to be
here with you tonight and very much
looking forward to the conversation and
I think what we're going to talk about
is going to raise a lot of curiosity
with the audience and we're prepared to
talk about it in detail Genesis 6 we can
we can start there but I will I want to
skip it really quick and go just talk
about Enoch for a minute because we
can't really talk about Genesis 6
without talking about the Book of Enoch
one thing that I will say that it's
definitely a resurgence of that book and
now it's starting to be accepted in many
churches and church circles and and and
and those realms now where it was really
taboo even 10 years ago 10-15 years ago
it was taboo to bring up that book now
pastors are preaching out of it and
they're referencing back scriptures and
stuff talk a little bit about the Book
of Enoch coming back into light well it
is extremely popular because it provides
a lot of detail in terms of prehistory
in quantity and volume and in detail
that is unprecedented in really any
other book on pre
three about the Giants and so it runs
fairly consistent with biblical
scripture not 100% scripture it is
apocryphal it probably doesn't come from
one writer it may or may not be the
original book of Enoch we're not
convinced of that or not sure of that
and it does have some corruptions in
there because it was you know found and
translated by the Gnostics so there's
basically two different translations
that are coming down one is the
Ethiopian one and one is the Aramaic one
and they're fairly similar but
traditionally there's just a few
differences between it in a few verses
missing here or there but there are some
corruptions in there and there are some
markers in there because Alexander Bruce
who is the one who founded found and
translated the first book of Enoch he
was a gnostic and a freemason so you
know there's going to be some
corruptions in there so there's some
small things in there like angels going
to know what to warn them of the flood
which and building the ark for Noah that
doesn't happen in the biblical account
that's that's a gnostic overlay as an
example and it will also put the age of
enoch in there at between 500 and 550
depending on which verse that you're
reading in the Book of Enoch and we know
that that's not accurate that that is
that Enoch son of Seth as opposed the
Enoch son of Cain and people need to
understand there's two Enochs and just
as there's two lamb X and the names are
so very similar in the two genealogies
that that would be what I would call a
Masonic and a Gnostic marker but they've
corrupted it because they follow the
ways of Enoch son of Cain and is one of
their greatest patriarchs yeah just as
to volcanoes as nom as as you Galen
jebal is and all the way through and
Lamech of course of the of the South
line so they just I think what they've
done with that book is they've corrupted
it but it is apocryphal but if you want
to have an eye-opening read and have
something that runs very very close to
Scripture it will provide details of
Genesis
we'll just sort of blow your mind to
places we could go from there that I
would love to interject first of all do
you think that Jesus had knowledge of
the info that's in this book not just
Jesus but the prophets and apostles had
had some of the knowledge of these books
and they had it they were passed around
and read as well yeah there was
obviously there's a reference
particularly in Jude where it references
the Book of Enoch and so we know there
was legitimately an uncorrupted book and
is this the one we don't were not sure
but what we do know what I do know is is
that certainly Jesus as being the Word
of God and being the Alpha Omega and the
first creation of God he would be very
well aware of all of this information
that would be in the Book of Enoch and
whatever else may not be in there or
whatever may be not quite right so
certainly he would I think many of the
prophets would have had access to the
Book of Enoch as well whether or not it
was part of the you know the the
hagiography that was part of the ancient
scrolls in Jerusalem or even before that
we're not sure and there's so many books
that were lost the Old Testament was
sort of built upon so I think at some
point in time they had it we don't know
exactly when they lost it but I'm pretty
sure that most of the prophets would be
aware of it based on the history of
they'll sort of the ancient ecology of
how far the prophets go back and great
so I would think they were aware but it
definitely gives you a look into the
spirit realm and the weird thing is a
lot of those books that were taken out
or apocryphal books they deal with the
spirit world and and how they operate
and how they affect mankind and humanity
and things like that that's very
interesting that that's something that
most of these books had in common I have
a friend of mine who's a scholar in the
in the area as well he made this
statement it's kind of a bold statement
but I tend to believe it he says that
you can't fully understand the Bible
without the Book of Enoch would you
agree with that no I would disagree with
that I think it's it's a good companion
book but I think there's so much that's
in the Bible that people overlook and
it's not their it but I think after you
read Enoch if you will host it fills in
the holes and it will help you flag
verses and passages and it'll just all
of a sudden pop out to you so certainly
you know not so sure I would go quite
that far but it will really help you
understand you know the so you think you
think that there's a lot in Genesis 6
that would kind of fill in those gaps to
write oh absolutely I mean when it comes
to the Giants I mean we get very stingy
details before the flood we get more
details of them after the flood at least
the more tribes and how they affected
the early post diluvian epoch to a
certain degree but Enoch I mean it is I
mean it's just it's a large book that is
basically devoted to the antediluvian
age there's so many this is just so many
places we can go with this and I want to
go with you but probably just started
let's start from the beginning let's go
let's set the framework for somebody who
has no idea what the Genesis 6
conspiracy is you wrote a book by that
title Genesis 6 is a key chapter when
we're understanding the Giants that
Nephilim the fallen angels and that so
let's go to the beginning where you
would lay the framework for what that is
yeah so let me just lay a quick sort of
summary of what the book is all about so
that people understand what we're
talking about here so the book begins in
in Genesis 6 and then it'll work its way
back but it's about how the sons of God
go to the human females the sons of the
daughters of men and copulate with them
marry them have introduced giants which
are if you look in the King James Bible
it'll say Giants but
to take that back to Hebrew it'll say
Nephilim unless we're nepheline will
come from so it's it's about how that
takes place but it's also about how
these giants will partner with the
descendants of Cain and with fallen
angels and how they will conspire to
develop the knowledge and the mystical
religions and create secret societies to
usurp the antediluvian world and rebel
against God which brings on the flood
and how these groups and organizations
cross the flood how they affected their
early post diluvian epoch how they
affected our history what they're doing
today and how they bring plan to bring
about the end time and Antichrist so
it's literally a 6,000 year
investigation into what I call the house
of Dragon and connecting the dots and
all the different organizations and and
religious groups from around the world
how they're working together to bring
this about so that we kind of tie in to
the 13 bloodlines and things like that
yes but maybe not quite as people may
understand the 13 bloodlines there I
mean it's quite famous the 13 bloodlines
and whether or not it's a European 13
bloodline there's also a meet those of
the 13 American bloodlines I look at it
as those are part but it's about the
worldwide bloodlines because the
bloodlines of these giants go to all
parts of the world and when I talked
about in in sort of the preface what the
book is about that they use serve the
kingship so usurp the king ships after
the flood again and they create all of
the dynasties that will go down
throughout the ages whether or not it is
in China with the Lee dynasty or with
with the Yamamoto dynasty or the
dynasties and in Central America or the
European dynasties or the Middle East
dynasties they all have this route with
the Nephilim usurping kingships very
close
after the you know after the flood is
over would you tie these in and I don't
know how studied you are on this topic
but I'm sure you are would you tie the
Fallen Angels in with the gods of the
Old Testament the ones pretty much the
the divine council who were ruling over
different regions and parts of the earth
or would there be a distinction between
those gods and the Fallen Angels as some
some deities who are being worshipped
and actually have a physical
manifestation on the earth yes so in the
antediluvian epoch you've got a minimum
of seven major Watchers as what they're
called in Enoch or the grigory or
Seraphim angels as we we'll know them in
the Bible and under them they've got
many other angels and you know you have
a consensus that there was maybe 70
different cult centers overseen by
various fallen angels and a lot of
people use that by the number of
languages you know people's that are
after the flood with Babylon but you
certainly do know that there's a Council
of gods that's spoken of in Psalms 82
and you also know and Deuteronomy that
before Israel and and if you look at
other translations spending which when
you're looking at it'll say sons of God
that the world was split by God up into
certain aspects or regions or realms in
the earth so I think that those these
were the the governors of of the
antediluvian epoch and again whether or
not there was replacement once after the
flood because a lot of these compassion
to angels at least all the impassioned
angels would have been imprisoned into
the abyss for the for creating Nephilim
in the first place and so there may have
been some replacements after the flood
but certainly there is no doubt that
these were what I would call the
celestial mafia and they were setting up
rebellious cult centers that were all
polytheists and were inciting humans to
rebel against
which is one of the key causes of the
flood and of course they were over seen
by the Nephilim as their representatives
on earth and as demigods or kings of the
had to do in the world and then again in
the post eluvian were talking about
those gods those angels that ruled over
certain regions and parts of the earth
do you think that those principalities
as we're told in the scriptures and
powers and rulers of the air do they
still hold authority or rulership over
the certain regions on the earth now and
I know that it's weird because a lot of
times what we just seen I'm just
practical experience driving from state
to state and crossing a state line and
feeling like a change and you're what
you're sensing when you cross the state
line definitely down here in the South
even as a kid without knowing any of the
stuff crossing from Alabama Mississippi
into Louisiana and that's where I'm from
but I would notice a change and then
getting to Florida and then getting back
to Louisiana and a weird heaviness and
and things even now what do you think
that that still exists these
principalities over the different
regions yeah I think so and I think we
look to some new testament brest
references and you're you you bait some
with the principalities and there's a
few other ones but the big finger to
remember from my perspective is that
Satan is still the Prince of this world
he's still a prince in the power of this
world because it hasn't been resolved
yet this whole issue that's what we're
going to go through at the end time and
so not all of the angels were
impassioned so they didn't all have sex
and was only the impassioned ones and
the worst the demons uh my understanding
is that were sentenced to the abyss for
those for those crimes of the violation
against the laws of creation so that
means there's many other unimpassioned
angels that are still out there and you
still have the dividing up of the earth
that we have no scripture to say that it
was read avoided or canceled or anything
like that so one presumes and
that either those were consolidated and
into smaller ones that weren't sentence
to the abyss or they're just replaced
with other angels and we know there's a
lot of angels that were actually
rebelled because in Revelations where
we're told that there's ten thousand
times ten thousand that's 100 million
right and in Revelation 12 either a
third rebelled all at once or by the
time at the end time a third will repel
so there's like thirty three million not
just the two hundred that Enoch talks
about going to Mount Hermon so and
there's a hierarchy to these angels as
well so yeah I think there's still there
governing the various regions and will
do so until the end time and I think
that's part of what helps bring the end
time on what's the restrainer is removed
I think I think it's cool too because it
kind of gives some credence to this
where believers Jesus says they that uh
says do you not know that you shall
judge the Angels yes which angels is he
talking about the angels that sinned and
left their first estate and came down
and and uh you know did what they did
with mankind and that's what Jesus is
talking about you got a little info on
that yeah and I actually will cover that
off in a specific chapter in the book
and I call it Satan's revenge and so my
take on on this whole thing is is that
there is a rebellion before the creation
of humankind and there's many theories
as to when that would take place but I
place that certainly before the creation
of humankind and Adam is created - in
the future time to have him in his
descendants raised above angels right
because angels rebelled they had no free
choice in terms of being created
immortal but they did obviously have a
free choice to follow God or not because
many of them chose not to but with the
creation of humankind and Adam in
particular with his Great Commission is
that the the Fallen Angels were jealous
of this they were wanting to make sure
that this was not going to happen so
they were going to try and bring down
Adam and humankind to prevent them from
being raised higher than angels in the
future time and that's being able to
judge these angels and the rebellion
so we're intricately and intimately
connected to what happened in prehistory
with the rebellion and so what is
playing out is the resolution to that
and because we have free choice before
immortality that's going to have a
higher sort of presence given to it in
in the future time and so in Eden you
have Satan taking possession or avatar
aang or coaching the serpent to bring
Adam and Eve down for his first revenge
Genesis six would be the second revenge
and all throughout history he's trying
to prevent humankind from achieving
their destiny and from Israel being
created and enabling Israel to bring
about the Messiah and that the Messiah
will bring about the redemption of
humankind and I think where they what
they're angels miscalculated was as they
did not anticipate the resurrection so
when we hear about Jesus in first Peter
going into the grave at the time of the
resurrection or a time of the
crucifixion I'm sorry
before the resurrection just before he's
talking to these rebellious angels and
saying it's over your rebellion has
officially failed and when I rise on
Sunday morning means humankind will be
raised in the future time and they will
judge you for the crimes that you've
done against them that's a very powerful
book when it when it comes to talking
about Enoch and talking in it kind of it
kind of brings me to another scripture
but I want to go back and just ask you
about it because what is the deal with
the hair okay because it talks about in
Enoch that they're looking down at these
women who don't have their heads covered
in their hair is what attracts them like
the beauty of their hair and then we see
on into the new test
it says you know to cover your heads
women to cover your heads because of the
Angels it just throws that in there and
we we have to give a reference yes first
print first Corinthians 11 yeah and then
it didn't says men not - it says that
women are to pray and make that
connection with their head covered and
men with their heads uncovered what
what's the deal with with the hair and
the angels well it would seem that when
the angels come into the physical world
from the spiritual world and take on the
form a body that they take on in the
physical world that they seemingly are
subject to physical rules and
regulations or in this case temptations
and so I think they find that the women
are beautiful and just as a human male
would find women beautiful and I think
it's the same sort of things that are
going on and you know they left there as
Jude 1:6 as they left their habitat and
habitat goes back to the word like a
carrion in Greek and that is defined as
a dwelling place for the spirit so I
think they put on the clothes of the
physical world to have a dwelling place
for their spirit here and then that
becomes affected by of the physical
world very very controversial point here
I want to I want to ask you talking
about dinosaurs so when we read Enoch he
talks about the angels mixing DNA and
and mixing with the animals and things
like that and some people think that's
where we get the movie the island of dr.
Moreau mixing that the genetics they're
dinosaurs some people believe that the
dinosaurs are the offspring of the
fallen angels mixing with animals or
some kind of monsters because it talks
about the Titans you know these big
beasts that were formed out of the child
and they're fighting each other they're
at war or the you do you tie the
dinosaurs into that at all
yeah let me see whether I can explain
this in a fairly quick way that people
can follow and understand in and also
keep it biblically based so in in Isaiah
6 you hear the term Seraphim and we've
mentioned it earlier it's serif M or
serif I am stands for one so it's fiery
serpent ones is how serif is defined and
so these are the angels that are walking
amongst the the throne of God in the
fiery stones and so they're a very high
level of angel and part of the watcher
group that we're governing the
antediluvian epochs so you have this
this reptilian snake-like being and this
being has a face of a snake face of a
Viper and when it has its wings out now
you have a dragon dragon and serpent are
the same sort of understanding in in
antiquity after or before Eden after
Eden we we look at the serpent as a
slimy thing that crawls on the ground
but it had its limbs taken off and it
had its voice taken away it had telogen
taken away and so we have to understand
that these were angels that look like
reptilians just as they're depicted as
in God's around the world so whether
when you hear about what's equate allure
any of the Central American feathered
serpents this is what they're describing
or when you see the the gods of Olympus
or the gods of the Anunnaki described as
serpents that's why or the Nagas and in
India it's so it's a worldwide
commonality now also in the antediluvian
age whether or not it's before as in the
gap theory that some people like to
place the dinosaurs at ordering the you
know the time before the flood you have
the creation of
the Nephilim who also are going to look
like their parents right they're going
to have the snake-like look and that's
why the kings of prehistory are depicted
as serpents and with elongated skulls
and glowing eyes and high cheekbones and
the extended chins so we have this sort
of reptilian thing carrying on just as
they eat the serpent in Eden is a snake
so there's a reptilian thing going on
here now if you go back and understand
that in the antediluvian age the seven
sacred sciences and the mysticism being
developed by Enoch and Enoch son of
Cain's descendants is going to be
developed to a significant level up to
the level of DNA manipulation and
technology beyond what we have today
because if you look at what Jesus says
he says the days of Noah that his second
coming or the end time will be like the
days of Noah we're not in the end time
yeah we're getting maybe close but we're
not there yet
so then that means if it's going to be
like the days of Noah than that
technology that they developed was even
greater than what we have today so they
could do DNA manipulation and also you
have this understanding that the
dinosaurs were like a giant creature so
very similar to the understanding of
enough limb being a giant creature and
so is it DNA manipulation or is it
appropriation with reptilian animals to
create reptilian giants in the animal
form could be either or we don't know
but what we do know is is before the
name dinosaur was created a couple
hundred years ago by the people in
science of the Royal Society which is
another rabbit hole to go down to but
understand that that's backed by
polytheistic religion dinosaurs were
known as dragons right and we also have
description of Leviathan which is a
serpent like dragon in the Bible as well
that is certainly in in and around in
the antediluvian epochs at some point in
time so I think it's probably both that
was going on and it's not just by the
Fallen Angels but
by these humans who are following these
Watchers and developing their own
technology so I think you've got several
different groups messing with creation
and although and violating the laws of
creation to a level that we haven't even
reached yet and when it says the earth
was corrupted it means the whole earth
was corrupted and that includes the
plants and all of the animals the
genomes everything I think was being
corrupted to be a different thing than
what God had originally created and I
think that's part of what they were
doing as part of their rebellion just to
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time to do it okay so I was just going
to just add if I could is that corrupted
goes back to the Hebrew word Shekhar
that's defined as you know to ruin to
decay or to spoil so it's not just that
there was violence on the earth and it
says the whole earth was corrupted the
whole earth was spoiled and I think
that's what it's referring to in a
larger context than the standard Dogma
so okay so with with the standard Dogma
definitely we can approach that Z what
is it 120 years is that the lifespan of
man or in a hundred and twenty years is
what you have until we destroy the earth
what do you have on that when it comes
to Enoch as well it kind of brings
another perspective sure my
understanding of that 120 years in
Genesis 6 is that that's to restrict the
lifespan of humans and the Giants and
God intercedes and you look where
it's positioned in the Genesis six
account and it's right in there with the
creation of the Giants and that's no
coincidence it's not 120 years to the
flood which some people will say because
the math doesn't add up right it's only
a hundred hundred years or 98 years
depending on how you want to calculate
that so it's not that but what happens
when the Fallen Angels procreate with
human females they are passing on what
Enoch will call a counterfeit spirit so
somehow their spirit is being passed on
and they're creating gods or demigods in
the physical realm let's say gods at
this point they're created immortal and
God steps in and says no I'm not going
to have a month immortal spirit in the
physical body in the physical world and
I'm going to move to stop that now that
takes a few generations to take place
what happens with these giants who have
the immortal spirit is is that they're
spiritism is immortal but their body is
not so at some point in time they're
going to die or their body is going to
wear out but their spirit because it's
immortal is not permitted to go to sleep
and it's not permitted to go to heaven
and it's going to roam the earth these
are the demons and this is why when we
see Jesus dealing with Legion in the New
Testament and they're afraid that
they're going to send them to either to
judgment for before their time or to the
abyss with their you know the worst of
their co-conspirators they're still
roaming the earth today as bodily
spirits and this is where you get hero
worship from in the ancient Greek
tradition where the ruler would die the
spirit would come back and the and haunt
that village and the people would do
rituals and sacrifices to appease this
this horribly upset demon because it no
longer has a body and the same thing in
in Taoism they call them bag of awe and
go spirits I was even just watching a
documentary last night about free speech
and a free and a free press and
somebody's name who came up Peter Thiel
I believe it is and he's a tech
billionaire and he's even talking about
researching in and a lot of people are
now but he's one of the billionaire's
behind it about shooting up or putting
into themselves the blood of younger
people or children to stay alive and be
and be more healthy and almost feel at
youth and stuff and people are are
swearing or swearing by this I know Joe
Rogan even talks about it a little bit
some of these millionaires who were like
trying to have this longevity and it's
having to deal with weird blood rituals
you know well blood and blood rituals
are all part of the religion that grew
up around the giants and the Nephilim
and after they lost their immortality
and God stepped in they start to
actually drink blood
it was a common violation for the
Nephilim and it's re researches after
the flood with Nimrod according to
Freemasonry legends and again they're
taught they're trying to do is with with
drinking of the blood is extend their
life
because they believe the life is in the
blood and then we extend it and also to
give them better cognitive abilities
they believe it does both and these
blood rituals and blood drinking rituals
didn't die out in the ancient past
they're still part of what they do at
the adept level in the secret societies
and the high level of depths of the
polytheist religions today what about
stem cells where does that play into
that is that kind of crossing the line a
little bit too when it when it comes
into this stuff yeah because the stem
cells allows you to more easily
manipulate DNA and genomes and things
like that right so this is this is
crossing over the threshold with what
they're doing with it into violating the
laws of creation which is what
essentially brought on the first
apocalypse and so we're starting to
repeat what was going on in the end time
and it's all about how do we create
immortality in this world yeah right not
about because this is the bottom or this
is there anymore exactly not about
immortality in heaven but in the
physical realm right and so whether or
not it's it's being able to do it
through transhumanism or Bionic parts or
clones or cloning body parts to replace
ai ai it's all about that creating that
demigod in the physical realm that was
was you know before the flood and some
people actually think that they're
trying to actually create vessels
ultimately for the demon spirits because
they need a body they need a dwelling
place for their spirit yeah some
interesting stuff but then it goes back
to it goes back to because we didn't
cover a lot of this but we talked about
the children of the Fallen Angels when
they came down then when they died those
spirits are sent to roam the earth to
and fro and not finding rest and they
are tormenting men and women on the
earth in using our bodies as vessel when
we yield to temptation and lust and
things like that the things that they
were into and I think enoch talks about
that there when they have a body when
they have a host that they're able to
sense what it is to love of again again
to you know to make love to commit
murder to eat food and taste it when
they have a host so is that there's some
info on that as well these these are
disembodied spirits riding on the back
or leeching off of your energy or
something like that of men and women
yeah I think that's been their goal from
day one since they've died is is how do
we manipulate humankind
in conjunction with the fallen angels
but the demons are a big part of you
know the gods of gods of polytheism was
to go through history they seemed to be
very much related or part of the
celestial masters or the white
Brotherhood or aliens or guardian
spirits or whoever you they say they
want to channel to because the knowledge
is coming from them to continue to make
the advancements and even more in the
last hundred years I think more of this
channeling is going on and getting this
information because we're seeing
technology advanced so quickly it's in
their interest to pass on the knowledge
that they had before the flood to humans
to develop to hopefully in with their
endgame - you don't have a body - to
once again live it and there's so much
stuff in Hollywood as far as like we're
talking about the occultism like the
deep dark occultism about the stuff
they're they're writing in the scripts
of these movies they're plagiarizing the
Book of Enoch they're plagiarizing some
of these these stuff that I guess the
majority of the lay people have no idea
exists but when we watch for instance
one one was the Transformers movie rise
of the Fallen were these spirits from
from outer space came and went to the
depths of the earth of this earth into
the bottom of the sea and went to these
robots or the which were the Fallen
Angels in Chains and they broke loose
all out of the chains they came out of
caves and out of crevasses and they came
back to rule and reign and it's called
the rise of the fallen and it says I he
put it out there blatantly but for me
that's like plagiarism from straight
from the Book of Enoch well and whether
or not it's the Book of Enoch or other
accounts of religions and mythologies
around the world they tell that same
type of story over and over and over and
over and over for your audience
understand that when they're seeing all
of these superhero movies
today yeah this is a reflection of the
nephilim of the ancient times and hero
was understood differently in the
ancient times and it is today it was
understood as the offspring of gods and
humans female to create a demigod heroes
of renown heroes of renown absolutely or
the mighty ones of old these were these
are reflections of it and you can see it
the best analogy I can give you for them
doing this is is probably the most
famous superhero which is Superman yeah
right so he is obviously a super human
being with super powers and he has this
almost pyramid like sort of emblem that
you have this s that looks like a snake
on it and he comes from the house of L
and L is a God and he is the son of L
and he is basically you know a Nephilim
in a cartoon sort of character J and all
of those characters that are developed
from the superheroes of the ancient
epoch this is this is just going on
continually in all kinds of
entertainment that they continually tell
us about their history their religion
and their genealogies encoded into all
of this entertainment the epic of
gilgamesh was another big one that's
just telling the stories of possibly a
fallen angel and an actual burial site
where they they found recently the epic
of gilgamesh is kind of along the same
lines what they ask you to see if you've
done any research on this but there's a
prophecy and I remember when we first
heard about this I was blown away but
there's a prophecy in the Book of Enoch
that says that two hundred generations
after the flood are you familiar with
that
two hundred generations after the flood
that these spirits would be loosed to
judge mankind into to do torments on the
earth and I know they did the breakdown
on on the
year that was 200 and I think they two
hundred generations and I think it was
eighty years around 80 years or so and
it was right at 2012 are you familiar
with that prophecy at all I'm familiar
with that prophecy again I take anything
that's outside the Bible with a grain of
salt and I measure everything against
what the Bible says devoured water with
a date hell in a day yeah yeah exactly
so I think it all it does is sort of
zeroes in to what I said earlier that
you know we're not in the end time yet
but we're certainly very close we may be
sitting on the edge of it the way things
are going but Joe the restrainer is
removed it's going to move you know at a
very very sort of set pace I think so I
you know so do I think there is it there
is a set time I think there is a set
time I just don't know whether or not
that is accurate in Enoch or not because
all you have to do is be out 20 years
and you're going to be yeah in trouble
right so even one year yeah that'd be
later on you definitely can't go with it
with a date on that but it's very very
interesting very interesting and to see
what's going on on the earth earth now
and and to see all of it coming out of
Hollywood man it just blatantly putting
stuff out there that would have never
passed 30 years ago and stuff that's
passing and what's going on in Hollywood
itself man and there's some really
d'oeuvres in I know I said transformers
but there's tons of movies out there
that are talking about these these
spirits and these entities and having
hosts and bodies and they just they're
just retelling those stories so do you
think is this God is this just how it's
just playing out naturally like this is
just these stories that are recycled or
do the people in Hollywood know
something that we don't and they're just
little pieces through I think they are
working in all aspects whether it's
education media entertainment whether or
not it's literature movies television
they're preparing us to X
cept what they're going to tell us and
try and deceive us within a very short
period of time so that they'll go back
and say hey we told you in advance like
this should not be a surprise it all
makes sense they're they're preparing us
to accept the great delusion and I think
it's a brainwashing propaganda thing
that is going on that will only
intensify as we get closer to the end
time yeah
and it almost passes by I know a lot of
people kind of run into this when they
do their research and then they start
seeing it in the movies and then they
start talking about it and people are
like oh you just got that from a movie
you watch too many movies and they can
kind of pinpoint the movies that go
inside with your philosophy because it's
all out there you know so it's almost a
way of just watering it down like you
said you know that you came up with are
you read it in an ancient manuscript no
you just seen it on television you know
mm-hmm yeah so and it doesn't matter
whether or not it's in science fiction
we get to religion we get the alien
deception that's going to be coming at
us if it's in fairy tales that's
preparation for the kids and it's
encoded with the allegories of
the the matriarchal bloodline and the
classifications of different fairies so
it can be in other sort of genre like
the vampires again the vampire whole
thing is just another allegory talking
about the genealogy and the imagery of
the Nephilim and the genealogies coming
down everything the drinking of blood to
the Cobra fangs on a on a drunk on a
person called Dracula which is son of a
dragon in the imagery and they drink
blood for immortality and cognitive
abilities he's based on Vlad the Impaler
and Nephilim who had pale skin hazel
eyes red hair as one of different colors
I mean just sort of goes on and on and
on if I want more of the whole audience
but all of the allegories encoded into
the dracula tales but understand you
know it is that is the side that is
against Christianity and that's the
ultimate thing that they're telling you
yeah that's that's um somebody said it
recently in a couple people is talking
about Hollywood and the the right lost
in in in in there in that realm and so
it's like oh it's mostly godless people
there are people who are anti God or
just pro-pro laughs and just everything
it's like super far left not just in in
political views but the super leftist
agenda and and we talk about the funding
and when somebody comes out as a
Christian in the media they're heckled
they're made fun of they try to dig up
dirt on them about their past or things
that they've done wrong in the throat in
their face and if you if you just say in
in the time that we're living in that
you believe in Jesus you laugh that you
know even in Hollywood and you lose
roles all kinds of weird stuff goes on
you know what we see happening but I
want to go ahead and jump to the phone
lines I got some more questions I want
to ask you but we do have a caller here
I'm gonna take this call here in South
Alabama Corleone there who we speak away
hey Derrick it's Kenny hey man you are
called in to a good show brother you got
a question for Gary yeah well I got a
few um actually I'm not surprised I've
been doing a lot of research and the the
same kind of thing and it's led me in a
lot of different directions I used to
believe that the dinosaurs especially
the flesh-eating ones were probably part
of the Nephilim or whatever but I kind
of went away from that now because I've
also seen things like there's a swamp in
the Congo or along the Congo River that
locals say that there is broader sources
that live there they're just not nearly
as big as they were before the flood so
I mean you know it's little
legends like that and then also
pterodactyls have been sighted in this
century on every continent just not very
many of them anymore and they're a lot
smaller than they used to be so I I just
I am may I I've come to the conclusion
that mostly all the fossils that you
find everything that was all pre-flood
so like the world was different back
then right so who's to say especially
with reptiles reptiles keep growing
their whole life so what if those are
thousand-year-old dinosaurs like you
know because they were the first thing
created and they just floods what killed
them nothing else was a threat to him
and you know that's just part of God's
creation that's gone extinct over the
years and wonder what about that yeah
it's one of those things that I think
when people start digging into this
aspect of it you end up going back and
forth on how does that sort of fit and
there's you know to me it's it's it
could could be either/or I'm open I'm
open to both and so when I look at you
know what science is telling us eh
I don't trust science because I know you
know that you know modern science was
created by the Royal Society which was
created by Freemasons and Rosicrucians
and their whole ideology is is the same
as it was in the antediluvian epochs
it's just to lead people away from God
not give God credit for anything and to
honor their own pantheon of gods so you
can't trust anything that they say and
I'm not even sure there is one complete
set of dinosaur at one complete skeleton
of dinosaur in the whole world I think
they're taking pieces and they then they
kind of ad-lib as to what they think
they may look like so we don't know for
sure whether or not there were as big or
as men
as what they what they're saying
possible I leave myself open to that but
when they they they live they it could
have been you know just before the
flutter could have been back into
antiquity because again you can look at
Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 and translate that
out of Hebrew that the earth became void
and that the earth was renewed just as
Psalms 104 30 says when God sends the
spirit earth is renewed so there's a
possibility that dinosaurs lived and and
the rebellion is what caused the
destruction of the world and then you
have the renewal of the earth I think
some people will call that the gap 3 I
have a blow-by-blow on that if somebody
wants it it's not constitutive to my
faith but I leave that open as a
possibility and certainly the angelic
rebellion for me fits a little bit
better there but again it's not
constitutive and yet I also know that
with everything that's going on with
science and how they're trying to
deceive us for their own agenda is it
could just be just pre-flood panels and
they may not be quite as big or quite as
numerous as but people would lead us to
believe are as old ok yeah they might
not have had the same diet that we think
they do none of us are deep so this is
yeah right I've also seen where one guy
compared a kangaroo skeleton to a t-rex
skeleton and they are remarkably similar
so we we might just not even know what
they look like maybe I was just a tiny
kangaroo and I can't imagine what those
chasing after me
yeah and we're just we're just now
having them come around the idea that
you know some of these animals actually
had feathers on them right they just
weren't totally sort of reptilians so
yeah they really they're guessing we
don't even know what again would look
like after 4,000 years maybe they were
mammals and it just looks like a reptile
now is it so degraded yeah certainly
possible there's a weird there's weird
Frank French Christian groups out there
that believe
that the whole dinosaur thing is a hoax
like that will never exist in there's
people who will like fight you on it
they think it's a hoax have you ran into
any of those people about yeah I mean
that's that's quite a common view that
the but then certainly within the
Christian a movement that I'm part of is
is that it is a hoax I'm not I'm not
quite there that it is but again I don't
I don't consider that anything is out of
the possibility when it talks about how
they're going just deceive us for the
end time I mean we're talking about the
greatest deceptions ever so this could
be part of it there's yeah yeah
just what you want to be is is is not
too dogmatic and you want to be able to
discern the information as you go
through and again as long as it doesn't
you know upset what what the Bible says
then I'm fine with it I'm not I mean so
like in all my studying because I've
studied like the secret societies and
all that stuff and just blown away like
oh my god do you know they they have
this in order all man they're passing
this do you know so-and-so did that and
finally got to a place is like okay that
stuff doesn't move me anymore there's
nothing you can tell me that's gonna
make me like oh really like anything you
could tell I understand the spirit
behind it and what what they're doing
they're trying to live forever they're
like drinking blood and putting other
people's blood in their bodies not
because like they need a infusion but
they're doing it to feel better and feel
younger and maybe live forever just
weird stuff that's going on and it
really does get weird when you start
looking into the the transhumanism and
everything that they're doing with that
so nothing blows my mind with that so if
it came out to be a fact that hey the
government admitted dinosaurs never
existed it was a hoax that they did to
push an agenda or somebody started it as
a joke and they never stopped it I II
wouldn't blow my mind I wouldn't you
know just because everything that I've
seen up to this point is there's just so
much state
into what you're talking about in
Hollywood and the left and all of these
agendas and that the whole
desensitization that goes on through
film and theater and stuff like that man
is crazy so did you have another
question for Gary brother yeah I was
since we're talking about the gene
splicing or what they're trying to do
these days and trying to like you're
saying and humanize our DNA and mixing
it with like Eagles so we have better
site or you know with her whatever
people mentioned that that might have
been what they were doing before the
flood anyway that caused the corruption
of all flesh because all flesh would be
you know all flesh so animals and
mankind alike and maybe just like in the
days of Noah so is it going to be in our
days and I think we might be starting to
see some that we thought about that yeah
and there's such a host of creatures
that are in other religions and
mythologies around the world that were
somehow created whether or not it's a
sent our being which is you know
half-human half-horse or it's Pegasus it
just Chamara
and just on and on and on and on it of
all of these different creatures
something was going on there either you
know sex was going on to create them or
they were doing some you know gene
manipulation to create this and again
when we understand that all of the earth
was corrupt then you understand that it
had spread right throughout the whole
animal kingdom and probably the plant
kingdom and it also maybe perhaps gives
more meaning to why God called the
animals to the ark because he knew the
ones that were still pure and weren't
corrupted yeah right and took you know
and most people say well I don't believe
in New York because you couldn't get all
the different kinds of animals on the
ark well they miss understand what
what's being said they're kind
in the bible is used in the application
as in species so representative species
two of each for unclean and seven of
each for clean animals were taken so all
the animals are taking just
representative species to pre-populate
afterwards and ones that weren't
corrupted with whatever was going on in
the anthony levine epoch whether or not
it was DNA manipulation or whatever yeah
oh hey candy hey can you bro thanks for
calling man I'm gonna put you on hold
I'll bring you back here on in a minute
okay
all right my brother it's a good brother
right there man I wanted to ask you to
this is something I don't know if you've
seen this but um and I may lose a bunch
of fans after I admit this but I will
admit it because that's who I am I'm a
big fan of Benny Hinn I'm a big vent
Vinny and fan and some people make fun
of me and quote why why why but I'm a
big fan of Benny Hinn especially his
early work put it that way
Benny Hinn knows some stuff I'll say
that he was on this is your day or
whatever with what's-his-name Paul
Crouch before he passed and it was a
late night show and I'm laying in bed
and I'm just have it on I appreciate
Benny Han and he starts talking about
angels and demons and he's answering
some questions and stuff and he's
talking about some brochures that he's
put together and some teachings and
stuff and he starts talking about these
angels and he's given them this extra
knowledge about these angels and and in
in the audience their eyes are wide open
even Paul Crouch was like Benny I've
never heard this I've I've been a
Christian serving the Lord for seventy
years I've never heard this information
oh yes brother these angels they you
know the Fallen Angels in the demon
spirits and they get on you and it says
that here and then he goes back and he
starts quoting the Book of Enoch
so he's TVN dropping all of this wisdom
from the Book of Enoch and everybody's
jaws are drop
they've never heard it and they trust it
if it comes from from somebody of that
stature right they
trust that if I come out and start
talking about the book in me Enoch here
maybe another scenario yeah but when he
said it was like an authority figure and
even seems to see Paul Crouch his face
Benny Benny I'm just a loss of words you
have to come back and he was just so
blown away but I was in bed and I looked
over at TV I was like okay okay Benny I
feel you dropping some knowledge on the
Book of Enoch on there and all the
peoples it was just funny I see it
coming out in the light you didn't see
that by any chance - no I did pretty
pretty interesting but um I wanted to
ask you just before we go here for a
minute I want to give a shout out to
Alonzo Pichardo he's a friend of mine
who sent me your work and he works with
with Freeman Freeman TV he works with
Freeman a lot so he sent me he
definitely name-dropped you a bunch of
times about having you one as a guest
and for me to to look into your work so
thank you Alonzo Pichardo for doing that
and then oh there was a podcast and this
was out of the blue so Alonzo mentions
your name and then as a podcast that I
listened to called the bad Christian
podcast yeah I download an episode and
you're on as a guest and you know I kind
of like those guys I don't know how you
got on there how if they reached out to
you because I know some of them are into
some conspiracies and things like that I
don't know how that happened but I was
listening and I was kind of upset
because I heard Matt Carter just trying
to like they have you on as a guest and
then they're trying to like disprove
everything you're saying or doing the
whole nah nah that's not true now I
don't believe it as you're sharing as a
guest talk a little bit about your
appearance on that show because I'm you
know I'm I'm fans of those guys but it
was just kind of awkward to hear that
conversation kind of picked those little
jabs and turns and stuff yeah it was
rather interesting it would they had
reached out to me to come on and what
they wanted to do was have myself and
somebody else that they would have their
and the two of us would to be two of
them about giants and as it turned out
it was you know went against two but it
was rather odd that we're debating
giants and they're disputing what
scripture says yeah I mean there
and it was absolutely kind of bizarre so
I mean all you can do is is just
continue to say well that's not what it
says here's what it says you know
verbatim and you can choose to believe
it or not but that's what it says and so
you know they and if you got into
something in phases and they were
talking about walk do you have any proof
of any giant so you start talking about
yeah then they then they shut you down
because they know you're armed with
whether or not it's recent or ancient
and they don't want to hear that either
so I think I think what happened was is
is they were surprised that I could
argue or I could present the information
against what they thought they were
probably just shooting me down I suppose
because it seemed like rather
interesting sort of set up for the
debate so kind of was really a debate it
wasn't supposed to be a debate when you
went ando right he was just kind of to
show you info well it was but it was to
be but there were supposed to be two on
each side oh really so they wanted to
kind of have a back-and-forth about pros
yeah okay so but what I wasn't prepared
for that they weren't as familiar with
the Bible as I would have thought so
it's hard to have that conversation with
somebody arguing for the Christian who
doesn't know that things are in the
Bible or what it says yeah so it's so
awesome but I was like you tell my Gary
Wayne hey Gary Wayne's on this episode
I'm definitely gonna listen and I was is
getting good then at the end it got kind
of weird I was like oh why are they
doing that it's like I get a lot of
guests on here I know and I don't agree
and with everything people say and I'll
let them speak on on the on the platform
and stuff and and some people in the
chatroom section over here they're just
like correct him correct him debate him
I'm like I'm not asking the guests to
come on here truck and debate them and
prove him wrong and and get into like a
shouting match which happens and
contingent and get this shaking and all
that kind of stuff
I'm here because I've studied enough of
what you bring to the table that there's
some things that we can build upon to
share verses like you know what you
believe this and I don't think it's
right like it's isn't that weird to kind
of go on a sowed of somebody show and do
that as again
you know yeah well I don't mind having a
discussion on different points of view
because nobody is ever going to agree
with anybody 100% of the time so the I
think it's fair ball and I think I
should be able to come prepared to
defend my perspectives on things that I
do I'll back it up script really all of
the time I also use outside sources but
I'll measure everything in terms of what
I wrote in my book against what it says
in the Bible and I think it's important
that you come prepared to be able to
discuss about these things that was a
little more than I would have
anticipated but what was really nice was
is how many people who got a hold of me
afterwards and said it was so refreshing
to see somebody defend the Bible there
you go there you go cuz they're because
they're kind of all over the place on
that show here here a little there
little but at least they're open about
it though and they're open about you
know actually discussing that and that's
needed to that's one of the shows doing
so well it's because they're open about
it about hey I have some questions about
my own spirituality in my own faith and
what the Bible means so they're there
they're like really flourishing right
now because they're open so kudos to
those guys too bad Christian podcast I
wanted I wanted to ask you as well about
some of the other books that are
mentioned because they because they
piqued my interest and I think and
there's a lot of them we can't find but
like you were saying the Old Testament
is built upon a lot of other books and
and they start quoting these other
prophets so we never heard of in the Old
Testament shamaya the prophet of you or
you have you heard of that no I'm not
familiar with Shivaya I know that's the
thing it's like quote they quote it but
I don't think you can find it anywhere
just like that knock as it is written in
the Book of Enoch as it is written in
the book of Jasher if you do it if you
just do a word study on this like pull
up the Strong's Concordance with the
East sword I'm I'll show you familiar
with that program and there's a bunch
like it but as it is written or in the
book of and then there's all these
scriptures that come up
there's one called aam II do the profit
have you heard of that nope
this look of either the problem and in
there and they'll just be a quote and I
hold on and like so mean the way mama an
works and like hold on who is Shania the
profit and where's this book you know
and just little stuff like that and
there's so many of them mentioned but
there's some of them that we can find or
something close like the book of Jasher
the book of giants the book of Jubilees
Adam and Eve when it gets into some of
the Gnostic stuff like that I don't
really vouch for it for much of that I
just I don't feel like it lines up I
feel like it's like put um I can feel
when I read that that it was put here to
throw people off like it's something new
they're trying to word it to sound like
Old English you know and things like
that but um what are some of the other
books that are mention of in the Bible
or kind of go hand-in-hand a big one for
me was to test them in a Solomon and I
think that kind of fits in a lot when
it's talking about the demons and
understanding the spirit realm and how
it operates was there any more books
that are mentioned of in the scriptures
that that kind of kind of stuck out to
you that there you go - well there's a
lot of them out there that rebel is
they're mostly Gnostic scriptures and
Dead Sea Scrolls pictures and and their
night neg come out either but they're
all Gnostic so and there's certain
aspects that is good for context and
I've read most of those Gospels and some
of it lines up really really nice but
you know there's the other 75% or 80% is
is just all wrong yeah just to put it
nicely
so and I think if you're going to read
explore a lot of these different
apocryphal books to put it in in the
most youthful mystic Manor you better be
very very centered in in Scripture
yourself and in your faith because it
can it could have a have a an effect
that you weren't expecting so yeah but I
you know again all of those I haven't
really found anything other than the
Book of Enoch that runs very very close
to the Bible and it has some
options as I say and as you say and I
put out posts on the book of Jasher in
the book of Jubilees and other ones and
they're just there their counter they
are counter biblical there's no doubt
about it what about the testament of
Solomon have you yeah I'm okay with that
one but again I don't I will I don't
generally quote it out of the testament
of Solomon because I don't know it's
it's true source because you have to
understand that that Solomon is a
considered a Magi in secret society yeah
he is one of their significant
patriarchs some of those issues and
black magicians so keys of Solomon
definitely don't don't mix those books
up guys we're talking about the
testament of Solomon
there's the testament of Solomon I think
there's the book of Solomon which is in
which is in the Apocrypha and didn't
have the keys of Solomon the caves of
Solomon's totally in there like crazy
crazy stuff so don't mix yeah and in the
the Apocrypha that was in the original
King James and as part of the Catholic
Bible and today I don't have a problem
with those scriptures yeah but there's
so many other ones out there and there's
more seemingly coming to the surface all
at the time so yeah you see we're like
you're saying be careful i beef be be
definitely definitely be grounded in the
word and in the scriptures that we do
have the 66 before you kind of venture
out definitely definitely do that you
know we talked about these books we kind
of we kind of weave them we quote them
here and there but I'm definitely be
grounded before you try to venture
outside to something else to kind of
have that foundation of what already
exists in a can and for good reason and
for good reason being I had I had some
groups that I was studying under years
ago and one of the brothers was into
even just the Apocrypha and reading I
think it was in the book of address and
reading about how you were given so many
days to travel once you die to heaven
and we're to help pray these people
through and I think that's a Catholic
doctrine because the Catholic Bible
still has those scriptures in and they
still go by them and there's some
beautiful things in there but he went to
it he got invited
preach out a revival and he started
teaching that at a revival and they
actually ran him out he's like yeah
let's go to book a second edgers and
they're like what second yes preaching
about like somebody who passed away that
we can pray and get him there and it's
just yeah you got to be careful
definitely got to be careful and be
well-seasoned didn't that man second
destra has some great prophecies in
there too yeah but even so I don't rely
on it as much you know I will
I will use it sort of as a backup yeah
but not as a source yeah there's some
beautiful stuff in there man I've
actually got a tattoo on my chest
it's a scripture from the book of Sirach
and it says strive for the truth unto
death and the Lord shall fight for thee
that's a that's a beautiful truth and I
think the scriptures back that up so I
got that tattooed and it was funny I had
a I had a Jehovah's Witness come by the
other day and and I didn't know who it
was and I went outside with my shirt off
and he's like looking at all my tattoos
and stuff and he's seen the one who
talked to you about that one that book
yeah
I'm not sure I'm not gonna fight you
about this book like he's like that
books not in the Bible for a reason he's
lecturing me on it I said it's a
beautiful book there's some beautiful
things in it I'm not gonna hold it over
the canon those type of things you know
but he just wouldn't leave the he
wouldn't leave that alone hey it's not
about that book interesting you know
yeah but it was in the Bible for over
200 yeah but it's not anymore I'm gonna
tell you about Jehovah and what you know
and I was like okay hey we had a good
conversation but I wasn't looking to win
him over and he was trying to win me so
I got kind of awkward a little bit I
think we have time for one more call
absolutely I got this call we got a
caller from South East Texas colleague
on air who we speaking with oh hey
what's up Dee its Larson all right
what's going on man dude just just tune
into your show man we're mean any we're
really encouraged with how you stepped
into the role that the yah but you
after after moving you to the next step
you know after your job amen thank you
man I got chills you just confirming
them and thank you so much I appreciate
that for sure absolutely man
well um love you Gary I've got your
books in right Nick here next to me on
my bedside table my dad got it for me
for uh for my 30th birthday so love it
love you one of the things said I am
making aware to people is that is that
we're a lot closer to events transpiring
and the end the the day of the Lord then
a lot of people realize and one of the
things that keeps being brought to my
attention is that the that the book of
Revelation that it's the revelation of
yahushua it's the revelation of the
messiah um and so it's been occurring to
me slowly but surely that perhaps the
way that the ruling elites are going
about this is they are planning for the
for the reign of their god which they
think is ushering a new golden age they
might think that the millennium reign
applies to them and so they don't have
an idea of the sense of of the sense of
urgency that we're in in this timeline
hence why it seems like they can kind of
slow play some things or they think they
can set all this up and execute this
this and this and this and the thing is
they're being allowed to do that because
the the book of Revelation isn't meant
for those who are who are like them it's
meant for us it's meant for us under
and the Scriptures talk about that
they'll that they'll uh that they'll see
not understand you know and they won't
be able to comprehend
um it's interesting to me because I'm
just trying to make people aware that
this might not look like how we've all
been taught that it's going to look like
and one of the things that's happening
right now is the hive mind is getting is
getting ready is getting prepared across
I mean across the globe and with 5g that
might accelerate to their ultimate zenus
or whatever but the thing is it's like
what you were saying 'die is they they
those things we used to find out the
things that the other side is doing and
you know and report on that and get
excited about that or whatever nowadays
it doesn't it doesn't matter you know
we're we pay attention yes but we're not
focused on it and then the point is to
be Kingdom focus me Kingdom minded and
while they have their hive mind going
which is trying to simulate how the Holy
Spirit how the ruach ha'qodesh speaks to
the speech to the bride the bride is
coming into the same kind of
realizations and connections almost
seemingly telepathically but through you
know through the Ruach um that they're
trying to experience on their side in
linking everybody up um and one of the
things that has been playing on my mind
is Matthew 20 hold up a dosa had pulled
up 28 24 38 or it says 4 as in 4 in
those days that they were marrying and
being given in marriage and eating and
drinking until the day they know when it
went on the arch and to mean what that
sounds like is that they're not just
like in the flood they're not prepared
for what is about to happen and it
befalls them in an instant
um so I'm letting people know you know
like
that there there doesn't necessarily
have to be um this like this moment
where you're just like oh that see you
know if you're not being led by the
ReWalk I think you're going to I think
you're going to be deceived and you're
gonna be you're gonna miss it you know
yeah uh I guess it's just more more
comments on that but but the thing is is
like I I feel that we're that were
actually into the seals we're obviously
not through the sixth seal because
there's a ton of stuff that goes on then
um but you know I'm letting people know
we don't have we don't have the time
they don't think you know that a lot of
people think that we do so today how
important is it to be in tune with the
holy spirit and kind of moving forward
with this whole endtime thing and
there's so many theories to that it can
kind of get overwhelming oh this is
happening and like we're saying being in
tune with what the government is doing
or the King Alfred plan and all these
agenda21 and things like that and being
concerned with that versus like the
scriptures that is where I'm at is the
Scriptures about whatsoever is good
whatsoever things are lovely whatsoever
things are pure like think on these
things that's where I'm at
so where did what does that play in as
far as walking in the spirit being in
the spirit of Christ and then all of the
fake news and all of the media and all
of the crazy stuff out there you know
yeah I think you have to you know watch
what's going on in the media and stuff
like that but you have to be able to
discern and as the last caller was
talking about you know revelation and
prophecy in itself doesn't tend to
happen the way people think it's going
to happen and people are always
surprised whether or not it was with the
first coming of Jesus with the Judean
people they were absolutely surprised at
the way he appeared yeah they weren't
ready for and I also like what the
caller had said about revelation and
that you know it's the revelation of
Jesus and so
if you're going to understand revelation
you need to go and listen to a Jesus
first yeah I think you should do that on
all prophecy and all doctrine and then
place everything else around it so
squirting from Matthew 24 I mean you
have to go to that to understand what's
being talked about in the Bible so as to
not in the revelation so as not to be
saved and the whole point of the matter
is is that we will not be able to trust
the information that's coming at us
we'll have to be grounded in Scripture
and the Holy Spirit so that we can
discern what is happening and what is
coming at us because even the elect will
be deceived if that were possible and
just by saying that that is what is
going to happen yeah anything else
Lawson you want to add yeah
no man um just uh just loving just
loving it you know we I got to show you
this I got you this really encouraging
video that came to us the other day D
and I a lot of a lot of people that we
talked to and that were associated with
and connected with have felt like we're
in a we're in a waiting period and we've
been in our secret chambers so to speak
seeking after him and you know if if
we've learned anything in our walk it's
not to run off because we think we know
where we're going or what the plan is
and you know to him and I mean I can't
you know like I think we've all been
there you know we were like oh yeah no I
got this you know all right well okay
I'm gonna let you go ahead and do that
um but yeah the the time is the time is
coming a lot of what one of the things
you know I'm involved with army god
music also and we are growing into one
of the largest
labels of in in music in Christian music
and we've got everything from from rap -
rock - heavy metal to the country music
you know and anyways what what we've
understood is that the kingdom is
starting here on earth and that we are
preparing the way for the Messiah to
return you know but but it's being done
right now it's not something that we're
looking forward to in the future you
know like I understand it might not have
accelerated to the point where you know
but but it starts out humble you know it
starts out as a seat and we're just just
looking forward and bawling you guys and
you know just just teaching various
individuals around us you know I there's
definitely definitely people that we
keep getting put in contact to who are
learning the truth and in these days
okay so real quick last saying something
super interesting the day of the Eclipse
um my my girlfriend Amy future wife she
she got this verse in her head
Amos 8 8 where it talks about that this
in that day that the Lord will cause the
Sun to go dark at noon and then the rest
of the chapter talks about how that he's
going to be sending a famine on the land
not one of bread or water but one of
hearing and understanding the word in
the truth of the Most High and what was
crazy is that that it had was on the day
of the Eclipse well a couple days later
we were talking to somebody and she said
well you know what like me and my
husband got a message from the Holy
Spirit to look up in Amos 8 on the day
of the Eclipse and we're just sitting
there and you know we'd be surprised by
these things but it doesn't surprise us
anymore it's just how things are unfold
things are going um but the thing is is
that this this famine
that is coming on the land doesn't
necessarily have to be one of food and
it doesn't have to be one of water and
it can be spiritual food and spiritual
water and so that's one is another part
of you know making people aware if the
time that were in because it doesn't it
it doesn't have to go down like you
think it does you know but but that's
just another cool thing you know about
messages from the rooaarr so dude yeah
man dude I gotta have you on as a guest
man yeah we will do it soon my brother
thank you for calling man absolutely
love you got love you bro that's it
that's a big thing as far as people
waiting for God I know there's a time
that we wait I know there's a time for
us to be there we have to be sin but
like you said that there is people out
there who are hungry even as we look and
see people homeless people and people
famished for food there's a hunger and
thirst for the truth and for the word of
God those who hunger and thirst for
righteousness shall be filled
so just wherever you are know if you own
the job site yeah Walmart wherever you
are wherever God has you don't be afraid
to speak the truth to speak the truth in
love
and to share with them people are
waiting for you the earth is groaning
for the manifestations of the sons of
God for you to be an expression of God's
love so anybody out there waiting to be
sent you have my permission you go you
just simply simply give what has been
given to you no more no less
have you received the grace of God upon
your life and he's shown you grace and
mercy show that to others freely you
have received freely give do it man
because it like you said the time is
short people are hungry people are they
want the truth and so if we don't if we
don't tell them the truth if we don't
give them if we don't answer their
questions they're gonna go they're gonna
go to other people and some of those
people who in in many of our cases they
go to like the New Agers and stuff like
that who would totally answer their
questions totally give them their truth
so it's time for us who in a movement
truths a truth movement this is the true
seeker podcast if we have the truth why
not share it why not be vocal about it
if we have what they're looking for and
that's for every believer everybody who
has a spirit and love of the truth of
the manifestation be that manifestation
of Christ in you the hope of glory
Christ out of you the manifestation of
that hope
one more question before we end it I
appreciate you hanging out with me on
here brother
we they're so mainly what where I'm at
now studying in the scriptures is the
esoteric breakdowns of the Bible as far
as like the spiritual meanings of the
Old Testament I know we have you know
the physical way of looking at it like
it's a history book and things me now
I'm when I read about the Israelites
when I read about Egypt those represent
different things in my life my land of
sin and when I was in the land of
bondage and it represents a part of my
life and I can't help but read the Bible
and not see these pictures any more
about it telling about my spiritual path
and spiritual life so when I see the
when I see the Israelites coming in is
realized meaning children of God a child
of God coming into battle with these
other nations and doing war and killing
everyone that's in the other nations I
see it as different strongholds
different ideologies and thought
patterns and and idolatry that I've
given myself over to and just as they
fought with them I have to fight with
those spiritual entities essentially and
we overcome through Christ in the same
way they overcome we overcome that's how
I look at it now but when we're talking
about the killing of the other nations
and especially I'm sure joining it and
with Genesis 6 a lot of people are
talking about how they are the
Israelites are justified with
slaughtering entire nations of women and
children and not letting any of them get
out because that these were nations of
Nephilim and Giants and that they have
this call to
eradicate them off the face of the
planet to do to do war with them with
that being I'm pretty sure we can agree
with the you you've heard of that right
oh absolutely I mean they they I mean
the promised land was absolutely
overflowing with Raphael and Anna came
and the interbred hybrids like the
amorite s-- would have intermarried with
them that so they had gone there laying
in wait for israel to come as part of
that revenge were talking about earlier
to wipe them from the face of the earth
so the Messiah wouldn't come so yes is
about the Giants and who were violating
and corrupting the land is that okay
here's the tricky thing because many
people still believe you know that these
bloodlines are still ruling now right
in it I feel like it's very very similar
to like the genocide with even like
Hitler believing that they was a pure
race and that they had to eradicate the
other nations that were weaker we can't
mix with them we can't enter marry and
stuff like that where does that tie in
do you see the could you see the
connection there definitely but weren't
sure it i and in and in the book in case
anybody's interested I have a chapter
devoted to the Nazis and the
relationship to the Nephilim and the
belief systems so in a nutshell what is
going on with the Nazis as they believe
that they were part of the Aryan race
and persevering race or blond-haired
blue-eyed Nephilim who escaped through
Tartarus after the flood and Tartarus
for people who are familiar with Greek
mythology is the prison that the Titans
or the Giants who rebelled were
imprisoned it right and that part of the
organizing societies to create the Nazis
was the Thule Society fool is the
ancient Atlantis it's either one or the
same or just sort of a real or roguish
slant to it or it's just different one
different civilization of one of those
seven in the ancient world but it sounds
like it's the area at
just anyways it could be Asgard for
example and so this is the the type of
organization that is putting the Nazi
religion together which is theosophy
mixed with real and völkisch ideology
and real is about the bloodlines of the
bloodlines of the Aryans and creating a
new super race through it which they
want to create the new man which is the
Nephilim concept and it's the
blond-haired blue-eyed version that
they're trying to recreate and it all
goes back to their belief system that is
polytheism and they call this religion
area sofy and in 1933 he set up the
rights Church which is the same type of
religion that's willing to come in the
end time nothing is new Under the Sun
everything is being played over and over
and over and over and just as they
reduced Jesus back to a mortal prophet
status in that belief system they will
do the same in the end time and so you
want to look at an analogy and occultism
research the Nazis because I think
that's a very good apparel L for the end
time complete with a maze Yannick figure
like Hitler and the Holocaust there's
something with a Larsson brought to the
table talking about they're all waiting
for this Messiah to come and it's not
Jesus and I think that we're talking
about this Antichrist figure to rise
into to unify the nations it won't be
something holy won't be something
beautiful but it will fulfill everything
in their holy books that they're waiting
for they're waiting for this Maitreya
type figure yes and all religions around
the world in societies that are
polytheists are waiting for their own
Messiah so it could be a Buddha it could
be Lord Maitreya as I like to call them
and there's many a recreation of this
Vishnu is the other sort of aspect that
goes along with that Eastern mysticism
and Jesus said that there would be many
false Christ's come in the end time so
there's going to be a lot of counterfeit
messiahs the floor
before the true one steps forward which
is again why people are going to be
getting ahead of themselves in so many
ways and being disillusioned and then
when the Antichrist does come after what
seems to be the full you know the bowl
judgments but it's just the trumpet and
the seal being open they're going to say
hey that's the true Messiah when he
comes all right yeah people have to be
able to discern so this idea of false
messiahs they're coming just as the
false prophets are coming we haven't
seen them yet but I think we're gonna
start seeing them soon yeah definitely
well Gary Wayne I appreciate you coming
on the podcast hanging out with me I got
to pick your brain for a little while
and I asked you a bunch of questions
that I that I had for you and a really
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well Gary Wayne thank you so much for
hanging out with me man I appreciate you
man
well thank you for having me it's been
very fun and invite me back any time
will do brother thank you so much thank
you all right god bless awesome show
awesome show I've done so much research
on Genesis six and the Fallen Angels and
then in the Nephilim and there was just
a period of time where I would just
consumed with that stuff man and and I
think everybody goes through that season
right and lets to have questions that
selector revisit it and there's a lot of
truth to hold on through it though a lot
of truths especially where I'm at now as
far as like I've given myself over to
study in the spirit realm how it
operates and how it moves around and if
you want to if you want to know that you
have to go to Enoch like you have to
pick up Enoch so Kenny you there brother
yes all right man what'd you think of
the show bro you probably got to get up
work early to know - oh yeah yeah I
think a lot of things that have been you
know researching myself trying to find
centers trying to find the truth man
always trying to find the truth yeah my
simplistic reach for it has always gone
back to and this has led me many places
but my simplistically she's always going
back like did Jesus have it you know did
the disciples have it did they know it
so when we're talking about Enoch when
we talked about Solomon and some of
these other books was that something
that they referenced a lot you know and
the more stuff you do you find out yeah
because there there are what is called
dark sayings and
obscure verses and esoteric and stuff
that seems occultic because you you read
it one time and you keep reading like I
said about the you know the women
covering their hair you read that in the
New Testament and Corinthians and I
believe it's in Peter as well
and you just keep reading you don't
really go into that but just doing the
breakdown of some of these other books
you find out how they fit because they
give you some more info on that stuff
you know yeah I mean I can't agree with
you more I remember the first time I
read the book Enoch and it just blew my
mind I was like what is all this why
didn't this doing about what I said that
there's some some things that are
inconsistent there's some things that
may seem far out as doctrinal wise but
hey nothing more this doesn't have in
the Bible right you know it I think it
only became inconvenient because people
forgot how to explain it to the
scientist yeah they definitely are
explaining away the spirituality right
and that the demons and stuff like that
and stuff that you know the ailments and
stuff man Jesus in the early church they
believed and this gets into some team
there's some deep stuff because there's
a lot of stuff when you look into the
medieval writings they believed that
germs were demons and the little
microscopic organisms what we're talking
about these dragons and these monsters
in these beasts when you look at the
microscopic organisms what do they look
like did they look like these weird
beasts and Dragons and stuff and when
they get in your body they cause
ailments and sickness and things like
that so there's a lot of stuff about
those being the actual demons or the
entities on a microscopic level so I
wouldn't say that essentially science is
explaining in a way but if we look at it
with with a trained eye for me it it's
helping it make even more sense you know
and there's prayers from the medieval
time of them
banishing the worms and the dragons in
there talking about these these
parasites you know and if we look at how
demons operate in the spirit realm they
operate exactly like parasites they get
on you
they suck your energy out they leech
onto you and you have to be rid of them
the same way it gets into some deep
breakdown man yeah yeah man I'm just all
over the place my mind right now trying
to yeah yeah I remember when I was like
ten years old I remember when I was like
10 or 12 years old I was playing
basketball in the driveway with my
friend and I look up in the sky and I
see a UFO like what the heck is that and
I see a helicopter chasing it I'm like
okay yeah well I guess when I'm playing
basketball I don't know what to think
about that that is my face
you know ya know when I when I really
got into studying that stuff I was led
to a lot of the Christian work when I
started studying about aliens and angels
and fallen angels that's cuz if you if
you're a Christian and you and that's
what I'm kind of glad we didn't go down
this road he'd touched on it for a
second but I didn't want to spend I
didn't want to spend a lot of time there
and I wasn't gonna debate him about it
but with your Christian and you're
looking up the Fallen Angels you're
eventually gonna be led to the alien
stuff and the alien and so all the
Christian realm says that aliens or ETS
are fallen angels they're they want to
abduct you and and beat you up and take
your body and kidnap you and stuff like
that and all like look at me they they
definitely could be but all of the
Christians stuff that you look up
they're definitely gonna tell you that
it's demonic demonic all the way and so
I started studying that under all the
big names Lynn Marzulli Steve quale
Tom Horn and just so many other people
who's like these are demons and then I'm
going out and I'm having my own
encounters under the stars and I'm
praying to God I'm fasting I'm praying
I'm praying clean conscious and I say
God let me see the Seraphim
let me see the Elohim the Elohim who are
traveling back and forth from heaven to
earth as your scripture says that are
doing war over humanity if they if they
are out there and they are of you would
you please let me see them and I and I
devil's my prayer with the purest of
intentions and after studying all the
demonic stand and being scared of aliens
my whole life as a kid you know watching
horror movies and fire in the sky and
all these movies and I started to have
encounters man and I started to see what
we would call craft but then I started
to see what seemed to be living entities
flying in outer space not that they were
a ship with I don't even know if they
were ships with beings in them but these
lights and these orbs seem to be alive
and I'm praying to the Most High God and
I understand the scripture says that
you're dead if you pray and you ask for
bread your father's not gonna give you a
stone if you pray and ask for a fish
your father's not gonna give you a
serpent so there was a lot of people say
hey man be careful with that you may be
callin forth UFOs dude maybe talking the
demons out there something if my
intentions are pure and I am one with
Christ and the Holy Spirit lives within
me and my intentions upon I asked my
Heavenly Father Lord if these are of you
would you please show them to me let let
one pass by and then I start having all
these crazy encounters man that's how
that's how the stuff went to the next
level because I wondered myself dude
that's how everything started for me it
really is of doing the studying and went
going out there under this under the sky
so
and and now so I play with a lot of the
names and turns and stuff like that but
I believe that they're the angels of the
Most High we're talking about Enoch when
Enoch says that while the one they are
in heaven let's go let's go to what is
heaven what does the Bible say heaven is
heaven is the sky it's the same Hebrew
word when he says I looked up into the
sky and I beheld this I looked up into
the heavens it's the same Hebrew word so
looking up into this when we gaze into
outer space we're gazing into the
heavens and so these angels are
traveling back and forth Enoch says that
these angels travel heaven back and
forth and they are made out of fire like
Gary Wayne said the Seraphim the word
Seraphim means the fiery ones the ones
who are made out of fire Enoch
reiterates it and says yes they are the
fiery ones that when they travel at the
speed of light they look like fire and
then when they come to earth they have
the ability to take on the bodies of men
and look like men when they come to
earth and so these are the angels and
it's it's it's even mention of in Psalms
the book of Psalm says he maketh his
ministering angels as a flame of fire is
reiterated in Hebrews that same
scripture he maketh his ministering
angels as finishing spirits as a flame
of fire and and to go end it and so to
have these visions under than the night
sky or the morning sky and see these
things man it opened it up and I've
talked about this because many people
will say okay it makes it to where okay
then there's something else going on and
for some people it would weaken their
faith they're like hey if aliens are
real then I was not real you know weird
stuff like that but for me it's like no
it becomes even more real because it's
not like we're heaven as an imaginary
place when you go when you die and
angels or these beings who exist in
another realm but know this stuff is
taken place right above our heads
even now Edgar Cayce says that the
Battle of Armageddon will be fought in
the heavens in outer space
it opens up so much stuff man yeah yeah
I remember man when I first started
looking into this stuff there's a couple
years where I meant to probably but me
and my wife we watched ghost town and
reason watched whatever that other one
was with the chick I can't learn the
name of that show but I'm sure you know
I'm talking about and just started
realizing you know I believe in God just
started realizing they were wondering
what is this I'm trying to looking for
answers in the Bible I'm looking for
answers from God and here in alley talk
about her experiences and everything and
I've never gone into witchcraft or
anything I had dated girls that did a
lot but I never said okay yeah whatever
girl have fun didn't really believe in
any of it but uh to come to find out
that really I mean that that's ever real
it's true it does have power there is
real there were real magicians that
could turn a staff into a snake there
were real magicians that could turn
water into blood I mean you know that
stuff was real so why are we so scared
of it you know I just just levee down
you know path and two years later I
hooked up with you and we're still
traveling the whole thing about that is
to for one thing to be real so if there
was magicians who could turn you know
staff into a or whatever they did I
forgot what that with the the evil
musicians did but uh okay they start
turned into a serpent or Moses through
his to the ground turn his into a
serpent and his item right I believe it
was and so right yeah so so for for one
thing to be true the opposite has to be
true as well so as far as like black
magic is concerned or evil occultism
well there's white magic and I believe
that's the practice of Jesus and
understanding demon
and how to cast them out that gives an
art to it you have to study this stuff
like I've given my life to understand
this stuff and then it gets into some
very interesting stuff but we just know
from like trial and error and then like
I said get back to the Pearson tensions
like what did Jesus know I and so I look
at exactly and not him being a son of
God but just him into the disciples I
guess that's why I bring up the
disciples look at the disciples well you
know saying what the day no and you know
they were well well versed in in Enoch
and they were well versed in lots of
books that would that weren't included
in the Canon and even the testament of
Solomon for one cuz Jesus talks so
Marissa hey we're talking about demons
you got one greater than Solomon
standing before you right now and they
were talking about veganism and
spiritism and casting out demons so I
said hold on why they why these people
mentioned in Solomon and why is Jesus
venerating Solomon about about demons
because that's not in the Bible like it
doesn't it doesn't bring up anything not
in the scriptures you have to go into
the testament of Solomon to find out
even like you know I'm saying like what
is it arm be so bob was what's mentioned
of to only one time and so the
Christians will tell you well that's
just that's just Satan
Beelzebub is Satan no be Zebub is a
separate entity and there's ancient
texts that talk about him and the
different legions that are under him and
so like I fully believe that you have to
really go into these books to understand
like the spirit realm and how these
demons operate and to fully understand
the Bible that's why I say that because
there's no way there's no way you
understand who Beelzebub orbeez above is
if you've not read Solomon there's no
way people think that's sacred that's
portable Azazel yeah it's the only thing
in the Old Testament about it is you
send the goat out to Azazel and they
just put a name as they wanted desert in
the map and they said oh well that's
just because they're talking about the
desert and then you read The Book of
Enoch
find out that God scribed all sin Azazel
so that's why they're telling the and
then and then you wonder why I think
what is it Paramount Pictures you when
you're watching a movie you're watching
Paramount Pictures I believe it is and
there's there's the big mountain and all
these stars come around I think of seven
stars or thirteen stars they come out of
sky these stars and the stars are
symbolic for the Angels Enoch tells you
that the stars of the stars are angels
and these stars come down and gather
around the top of the mountain and
that's that's what enoch talks about
that the stars came down from heaven or
the watchers and he gathered around the
top of the mountain and and that's what
they despise they started plant plotting
out to go down and take wives and women
to go down and do all types of
destruction upon the earth it's kind of
funny we had our mutual friend anthony
he's a good friend of ours but uh he
mentioned he that was the thing he
started reading enoch and he couldn't
get past that the stars are angels bro
the stars ain't really really bro oh
yeah
he comes from a belief that there
follows a fire that are billions of
miles away that we could never get to
sure are you a scientist right about
anything so why should they be right
about that yeah that was his hang-up and
I remember um giving another friend of
mine when I was in the Anaka a friend of
mine ah Samuel Samuel McCray good friend
of mine you guys know him yeah I
actually gave him my my testament of
Solomon to read and he was reading it
his dad found it and his dad brought it
up to the church that I went to and he
brought it up to the cave and I put it
in the envelope and wrote my name on he
gave it to the pastor he was like his
dad found the book and gave it back to
me I was like man it's what your son man
you know and he just watching over his
son and stuff not wanting to get into
anything crazy like that it's kind of
funny you know my dad kind of looked at
me funny when I told him I read the book
Enoch and I believed it with many
preachers it's funny they learn about it
in
but then they're also taught that it's
not true but they have to read it and
know it anyway yeah it's it's funny that
there is a resurgence of it now and so
it's even more accepted like oh you
haven't ready not so you're kind of like
on that you're kind of like on the
fringe if you haven't read it you know
that's like an elementary book you know
I'm saying so and like I say passed
everything out of it now and stuff and
they like making mention and reference I
learned about the book a narc on ancient
aliens and then I looked it up at night
I read it I mean I was about the same
time every shows I was watching I was
like the beginning of my life thinking I
was crazy and then not thinking now it's
crazy anymore cuz I believe in it dude
you know you know the backlash I got bro
going into you know over line and doing
interviews and talking about aliens and
interviewing people and then but like it
was a real deal and I had to I had to
reconcile that with my wife and I didn't
want to tell her and like I feel like I
lost a lot of friends over that stuff
you know over just living my truth and
what I believe in and my wife and I
member sitting her down at dinner
cuz she knew I was into it but to sit
down and be like hey hey this whole
alien thing and just like have
discussion with my wife about the alien
thing you know I went outside you know
what it took it went out we went in my
backyard and we prayed and I showed her
I said father will you show my wife if
these are you and and these are the the
angelic heavenly hosts the Elohim the
Seraphim the cherubim the fiery serpents
will you show her and he showed her they
they they lit up the night sky man and
it's it's it's it sparks so much awe and
Wonder within you when you have those
type of experiences I had so many like
not even on like I talked about like
when we would go out like MP
would want a drink or smoke pot or
something I'm like no we're not doing
that like if we're gonna go out and
we're gonna make contact we're gonna see
something I don't want anybody to say oh
you were drunk oh you guys were drinking
or whatever and I I don't I don't smoke
pot but some of my friends were and I
bet y'all can't do it if y'all do it
we're not going and we'd go out and we'd
take blankets and we lay out under the
stars all night and we've gazed into the
heavens dude until we seen something
move and you just be gazing at stars and
all of a sudden one of them would move
and it would take off and fly the other
direction you would think it was a star
but it was something that was just
sitting there outside of the atmosphere
sitting there pose for like an hour
don't so then it takes off moving or you
see one flying across the sky and then
stop and then go the other direction
like in two or three of them just crazy
stuff I was seeing out there man and it
was blowing I thought I was going crazy
I'm trying to reconcile it then I sort
of seeing him during the day you know
what I'm saying so it turned it got got
really weird for me and that's that
that's how adamant it was for me to kind
of put my neck out there to say hey like
I'm gonna talk about this I need to
first of all I need to find out what's
going on cuz something's going on and
whether it's demons who are deceiving me
messing with me but I totally didn't
believe that but um just trying to
trying to reconcile what was happening
and seeing crazy stuff out there but it
became more real to me like the
Scriptures did it might pique my
interest like hey this stuff is real
there Seraphim are real you know they're
not fake they're not in a theory or
theology or whatever these dudes are out
there you know what I'm saying and it's
awesome yeah you know yeah I mean I've
always well kind of felt like there was
something watching over me you know I've
never seen anything like that other than
the ones I'm I saw the UFO I did see
that I swear I saw it I can't get that
why not yeah it kind of blew my mind
because it was such a a thing that was
so easy and I'm like man weird
living in it was almost symbolic for
like like paying attention to the things
above we focused on the things about
because we live our lives and we don't
even look up and this stuff is taking
place above our heads like every day
like all I would do is just look up and
see all this stuff and I was like man
but in the midst of that was a spiritual
moment for me though because I'm praying
the whole time I'm talking to God and
singing worship songs and like
connecting with the father and then
start seeing crazy stuff in the night
sky you know and but it's like you know
what this has been here the whole time
and I've been too busy and worried about
myself and my whatever my music or
whatever the case is my life making
money functioning as a member of society
and all we had do is stop and look up
and the truth is right above our heads
you know any I believe anybody don't
have those experiences I don't think
that that's like oh I'm chosen to see
them because I prayed and fasted like
that's what I did but I believe anybody
can theirs dude there's people who
aren't who like having all kinds of
experiences out there people are going
out there with night-vision goggles and
seeing stuff out there in the night sky
that you can't see with the naked eye
you have to have like night-vision
goggles or even regular binoculars you
can see so much more out there and once
the weather cools down dude it's been so
long since I've had an encounter or went
out there and done that because once you
have seen so much it kind of gets old
for you or you figure out what do you do
with this info like what's the next step
you know and it gets you it gets insane
man it gets crazy and you have to be
able to be able to put the info apply to
your life like whatever you're getting
what's the point of it are you learning
anything from it or it's just vanity or
you just want to know part of its that I
want to know how the universe operates
man you know I want to know what's going
on I want the truth and that's part of
it
something's going on whether it's not
whether it's advanced technology from
the government or if it's really the
angelic realms above our heads with
which I believe you know
oh yeah oh yeah it's all part of his
creation we're just trying to figure out
a little to explain it and we can't yeah
because it's - its unfathomable we don't
have the brain capacity to understand
how it really works
latronnik we decided to make our little
reason that it doesn't doesn't work yeah
I've been trying to look down on not
like trying to imagine myself looking
down on the world and seeing everything
that's going on all at the same time you
know I would like it's just allowing
either demonic influence everywhere like
in the whole world at the same time you
can see just things happening we're
looking at when we're talking about
cancer and growth and stuff like that
and like algae and stuff like yeah when
you look there's a snippet of Joe Rogan
talking about flying into LA from like
coming through like Colorado and stuff
and how beautiful how green and lush it
is and into flying into LA and then even
in like like flying through New York and
just it's a brown smoke it's a smog
above the city and in the air tastes
different and it smells different it
feels different and even like from from
the satellites and seeing like the you
know saying the woods are changing
colors from lush greens to brown and all
the pollutions and stuff like that
seeing it from like an organism
perspective of the planet being a living
entity and if you do backup you you see
us as like almost as a cancer to the
earth and killing the earth and building
machines and technology and and taking
the blood from the earth to oil and
depleting it from olives all of its
minerals and things like that and when
you step away from it
from outer space and you look at it and
how cities look different forest looks
different lakes look different now have
you seen some of the picture they got
pictures of like 10-year gaps on like
some big lakes and in rivers and forests
and it all looked totally different it
Badman it looks sick and so it's almost
like like the planet of mother earth
it's just got a bunch of fleas on her
and she's eventually you know these
hurricanes like shake trying to shake
the fleas off you know I'm saying you
get some of the black jew-jew out of it
you know I'm saying trying to breathe
shake shake the fleas off of her you
know it's crazy man it's anguish you
know coming closer and closer to the end
times like Jesus says you know gonna be
tribulations all over and yeah normally
for more volcanoes eruptions every year
everything's just the earth is trying to
tell that reflect that it's about time
and you know I attained that's what the
Scriptures talk about and I'm up said
that it's not cold yeah man supposed to
be cold right remember when I was a kid
dude I hate on Halloween Thanksgiving
and Christmas it not being cold out I
hate it being hot like sweating hot and
humid on Christmas morning or yeah or
Thanksgiving like I know that's part of
the memories the cool air and stuff and
we do we haven't been getting it every
year that's what I look for I look
forward to that if it's gonna be if it's
gonna be hot or cold on Christmas I look
for it to be cold and just that winter
spirit you know I'm saying and it's just
like each year it's getting hotter and
hotter and hotter and whether that's a
natural a natural thing that happens I
don't know but I don't like it whatever
it is you know we had like three days
out of winter
yeah sure dude you know I think it's a
localized thing though cuz there was
other places it had the worst one other
there at you know the weather one
unpredictable or following less and less
of the patterns I think just because
another way guys just trying to say hey
look you don't really know what you're
talking about yeah just a couple just a
couple states up it's freezing cold
right now
you know we
down here the humidity in the south man
the mosquitoes bro man it's like I don't
like being outside I don't like going
out now I'm like preoccupied but being
out there and we're in the woods too
like come on man it's crazy go ahead and
jump off of here man thank you for
hanging out with me brother calling in
and just hanging out for a little while
yeah thank you guys for coming over last
night have fun with y'all yeah yeah yeah
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