Summoning Angels Through Ceremonial Magic | Nikolai
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influenced him in any of these
directions so it's gonna be interesting
to find out so he's gets into ceremonial
magic and we're gonna be talking about
how
his involvement with that where he
started out of and the whole popular
side is like dealing with the demonic
realm and dealing with demons and that's
kind of like the easy way to go so we're
gonna be talking about that a little bit
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Nikolaj Jones what's up my brother
Derrick thank you so much for me onto
your shirt I know that we've got plenty
to talk about tonight well it is tonight
here it is actually past midnight but I
like to get into the subject of
ceremonial magic and talk to your
audience a little bit about my
experience with the angels and a little
bit about my past
now I actually came to this practice so
I think it's getting credible to get
into this and talk to you about it I've
got a um I've got to just ask you
like I said in the intro as far as my
music is concerned has my music played
any type of role in seeking the unknown
maybe encouraging you to do these type
of things and it's okay to say no but I
want to know has that encouraged because
I know I put these angelic experiences
and encounters in my music is that at
all played a role Derek I'm gonna say
one thing okay now one thing that you
understand about spirituality especially
nowadays is that people are tired of
just seeking out information they're
really wanting to have real practical
experiences and something that you you
talk about is really having those
practical experiences and experiencing
what Christ is experiencing the Holy
Spirit and being transformed through
this alchemical process so I definitely
think that your music has had that
influence upon me you know while I was
you know a bit of an aunt or a cultist
for some time you know just studying
researching but I definitely think that
your music influenced me to to go to the
next level yeah because I want to I want
to keep that in mind because I get a lot
of the church people who say you know
you're influencing people to do this and
it's bad stuff and I don't know if you
we're gonna we're gonna go into your
story a little bit but you did start off
messin with some of the the negative
entities is that correct yes sir that's
correct okay awesome okay I'm sorry
before I do begin there I will briefly
just say what I practice and what I do
just so your audience can kind of get an
idea of who I am so basically I practice
Cermak magic I practice in our Betar
tradition and also in the drawing
spirits into crystal system now both of
the Tipton's very well together I also
create planetary talismans that I work
through the guidance of the spirits and
the angels to create and to infuse with
country energies whether it's for
business finance whatever or protection
I also work privately with clients to
help them defeat black magic that has
been done over their lives as well as
just protection and justice rich
through the Angels now that's a bit
about where I'm at right now but let's
get to where I was and how I got here
so basically in my teenage years I hit a
point where you know I had many doors
that were close to me in finances in
relationships I had very toxic
friendships and it seemed like almost
all my spiritual rows were closed and at
this point I really needed a practical
solution especially coming from an
interest in the spiritual realms and so
because of this stagnation I was
introduced to a secret society that went
public for a small amount of time and I
am blessed to have had a mentor that
have taught me a lot from that secret
society but basically this magical order
taught us Kabbalistic and planetary
magic as soon as I started learning that
and doing daily rituals my life changed
I you know I got a job I you know toxic
friendships started to fall apart but
there was one thing that really kept me
down with all of this is that as I
started to gain power I didn't go
through much of an alchemical process
through nor how to hold this power to
myself so I ended up you know spending
thousands of dollars and occult books
wanting to jump from room more to grow
more just embrace all this power but
this made me so miserable in the process
yes I had control over my life I had
power but I didn't have that spiritual
stability but basically just to not get
off track again this order taught us
planetary and Kabbalistic magic and it
changed my life forever so I ended up
working with you know different spirits
Saints and you know I think started to
manifest now I've actually got a paper
of notes here just to make sure I don't
actually go off tracking and to make
sure that you view was get as much out
of the out of this whole show so I will
sort basically sorry
yeah this resulted in financial
transformations
and I'm really grateful that I was
introduced to this because it led me to
other things but as I said the the
issues here with that because of my lack
of knowledge on the hierarchy of spirits
yes I understood that they had plant
tree qualities I understood that they
could achieve certain things but I
didn't really understand how angels work
I didn't really understand how demons
work I just knew that they could get me
results they did get me results but they
also brought me many little different
issues that came back at me so it was a
very tough journey so ultimately this
really resulted in a lack of spiritual
connection with Christ the creator
because of my crave for power okay it
really it really started to defeat on me
and basically I was in a very miserable
place very miserable place and a
well-known youtuber cultist had asked me
to help his client with black magical
removal he asked he told me this client
had financial issues he had relationship
issues as well as health issues so I
thought okay I'm gonna help this guy
okay I'm gonna help him out with my
magical abilities but I thought to
myself you know what I'm not gonna
introduce him to my magic you like
complete responsibility over myself my
real life but I don't want to take
responsibility over other people's lives
you know when you're messing with
spiritual forces it's like my biggest
concern is how that can influence other
people around me and so basically I told
him under my mentorship I'm like look
dude let's let's look at the angelic
rumors let's look at Angelica vocation I
haven't done much of this but you know I
know that magic works I know that you
can get results with this so let's start
working with annuals and the rest is
history
you know at this point in my life
Derrick I have the best set of friends
that I've ever had people that I can
spiritually and mentally relate my life
is going amazing I and you know what
when I work with a new person in the
systems that I work in I'm actually for
instance
during the circle dedicated to Christ
the holy spirit of the creator I start
the rituals with prayers to God and end
the rituals word prayers to God and
through angelic contact it's such a it
changes who you are it changes
everything and it's true when people say
that who you hang around with it is who
you end up becoming and this is the same
with demonic influence mm-hmm you hang
around demonic spirits you know you're
gonna stop think like they do you're
gonna start to react like they do and
your life is going to be a bit of
suffering and pain and and look I don't
want to speak on behalf of other people
there are professionals in the field of
Solomonic magic and they know how to
work demons that's fine but I'm just
saying that there's a huge difference in
the nature of spirits you've got into
your elementals you've got the Galatia
demons and in my life I choose to work
with annuals I choose to devote myself
to Christ to God to source whatever you
want to call it and in this process help
others through the Angels and become a
better person you know through this
process um and you know I'm so happy
that my friend had introduced me to his
client because he me and him were both
in the same level of depression even
though I was well equipped with power
and manifestation um there was still
lacking of soul connection with God I
guess I was just miserable you know
sorry um
well moving in with angels everything
changed everything to me and life right
mom's making more money is in a good
relationship
he's just feels more freed up and when
you work with it with angels over time
especially aggressive angels which you
know can bring Gustus they're gonna kick
the demons out of your your house
they're gonna kick them out of your
lives especially when you petition that
protection and you know what at the end
of the day it is about honoring God and
as the Abba tell tradition teaches it's
it's ultimately about honoring the
Creator and listening to God's guidance
and hearing the Holy Spirit and being
guided in the process of learning that
there is an
that Christians mystics can actually do
that there really is you can work with
angels you can achieve results in
business in your relationships there's
nothing wrong with that
you know you honor God in the process
but really it comes down to internal
intuition and and and you really have to
assess your personal models and who you
want to be around in terms of the
spiritual well what were some of the
negative things that you've seen when
dealing with the demons as far as what
well like like what kind of toll it took
on you or maybe would you see it doing
to others as well yeah the biggest a lot
of things happened one of the biggest
influences upon me was okay two things
when you conjure up demons gotta have a
lot of strong willpower what I mean by
that is they influence your mind and how
you think if they see a point of
weakness in your mind they will take
that and abuse it for their own agendas
now if you're strong enough then maybe
you might be able to just investigate
them and then banish them and get you
know just don't you know but um but yeah
they had a psychological effect on me
where I had more anger or hate in my
life I wanted to you know do black magic
I wanted to attack my enemies and
dominate them but really I'm a point of
ego it didn't come from a point of
sincerity because right now if I have
competition I want my enemies to see the
light of God in their heart I want them
to see the truth and then be transformed
in the process to be better people as
well as as well as you know like the
Angels even have to correct me Derek
when I'm out of line and I conjure them
they're like hey take a look at this a
us take a look take a look how you're
behaving here and after taking their
device and having that psychological
change because if frequent is affect you
on a multi-dimensional level like and
you're in their presence but getting
back to demons I also had a lower back
injury because of I believe because of
the demon work I've dug me to research
that you know some lower back injuries
in terms of spiritual a symbol
also represent being out of harmony with
yourself with the divine and so you lit
two physical injuries anger depression
hate you know and just crave for more
power Derek I spent thousands of dollars
on books but now I realized that you
know what I didn't have to spend those
thousands all I had to do is commit to
one what true angelic room was and came
in a lifetime to that and actually
listen to the Creator because recently
like God's been like to me ain't look
you have everything you need in terms of
magical art and and you will expend him
but you don't need to go seeking out
other things other books you have what
you need now use it and use it to help
others um sir yeah you know
psychological impact physical injuries
anger Heights and also a lot of family
issues in our family members getting
sick and you found my god it went all of
that was fixed with that you felt like
it was because of what you were doing
that's an interesting topic so yeah a
lot of times when see when people enter
magic they think that it's just
imagination and fun and games it is part
of the imagination but when you are
dealing with interdimensional beings you
have to learn the protocols you have to
learn how to cleanse banish [Â __Â ] why do
the Angela traumas have protocols where
you have to be humble before God because
you have to test the spirits if you're
not humble
you can also fall because of that and
that's what happened to me in the
beginning it was one of the hardest
lessons of my life there and you know
I'm only 22 years old but there is three
years of hell I learned a lifetime okay
it destroyed me but you know I came from
the lowest point and you know what I
thought to myself that there was no way
out I thought that's it I'm you know I'm
gone my soul was gone I felt like I
didn't have my soul because there's no
more joy what actually kind of also led
me to the angelic work in conjunction
with the client that came to me that I
really wanted to help sincerely was
reading some of the
stick scriptures and reading the words
of Christ in the secret in the Gnostic
scriptures like Thomas it gave me a
piece of my heart and I actually fell
down in tears I'm like wow like I
haven't felt this for years so it's
truly emotional man it really is it's
almost like when you're dealing with the
demons you're you're like working with
the opposite of Christ right and it's
like this it's like you don't want to
fit into the norm of Christianity you
got to find something different
your your heart is for the spirit world
you know God exists but you kind of want
to find an alternate route to access
those realms without the Holy Spirit
without Christ that positive energy
right and that's the secret people think
that you have to be a Christian or a
jehovah's witness to experience the holy
spirit but as you know your Derek like
how the Holy Spirit works through you is
your music right like through music
through expressing your passions and you
know and your and just a love that you
have for what you do and to just give
that out to others that's how the Holy
Spirit seems to work through a year and
what I'm getting at is that when you do
connect with the Holy Spirit you will
find peace and you will also find your
passion and your purpose in this life I
I've found who I am I'm in joy like you
know I a lot of people are afraid of
what I do but coming from experienced
demons and angels I can really tell
difference whisper twenties now that's
that's the crazy thing man let me ask
you this when you were at your lowest
was there any type of paranoia that came
with that as well with dealing with the
demons did they try to mess with your
mind or maybe some schizophrenia or
something like that going on as well you
know daring thinking about that thought
kind of brings me back to that state
there was yeah I remember one night okay
and this is pretty pathetic of me but
you know these these are my experiences
you know as I told you you know I spent
thousands on books and I was looking
upon my bookshelf with all these books
of wisdom and power and spiritual you
know magical work and I'm like you know
I'm gonna learn the next powerful thing
to dominate my
but it was a psychological hell because
it felt like insanity you know it felt
like there was no way out and to have
that peace once again to wreak right
sweat it's really you're through that
and it's just so emotional because it's
like brings you back into alignment yeah
and um but that schizophrenia yeah like
that it was a possession you know and I
think that God really yeah you know I
think that God had to work through such
a way where I was at my lowest and then
this client was at his lowest that my
sincere heart was like I'm not that
peaked client how to work with lower
spirits I've metal work with angelic
magic even though my stuff I haven't
actually done it yet and that's um to in
tension we both and we're like best
friends now you know like we've grown
together with the Angels from depression
hate fear poor health yeah - now where
it's just turned around um
do the weird thing with dealing with I
say demons but maybe the Angels as well
maybe maybe you can give me some info on
this but definitely dealing with with
the demons and just dealing with spirits
let's just say that they usually want
something right and they're not upfront
about it
I find that and and maybe if you get
into some of the crazy stuff maybe you
know they want blood sacrifices they
want blood oaths they want a picture
hung up in your home or whatever but I
found what with demons they want a piece
of your mind like they want to live in
your cerebral they you know say they
want to become a part of your everyday
life where you're giving them attention
and they're living through you and but
they don't tell you that when you when
you get involved with them you know what
I'm saying it's just something that
comes and like if you want to continue
the contact or whatever like they they
want to be a part of your life and and
it's usually in weird scenarios and
they're like it's just it's like someone
else living in you it's like possession
you know what I'm saying that's how
these these demons operate but dealing
with the
the other talked about the difference in
and how you know some of the things that
they want to be to be seen or they want
to be noticed or or maybe a picture or a
statue or a candle or something like
that that that that they want you to put
up because they all want to be seen
right the in and so the demons want to
black be ones ahead and that's that's a
crazy part of it you know what I admire
Derrick when we look at some of the
solomon ingram was especially when it
comes to working the demons what what
really surprises me is that the priests
and Maguy that did plunger these demons
true how can I put this to investigate
them I guess to do certain tasks under
God's will they had to be pure so humble
because if they didn't have a piece of
their mind so has to be incredibly
strong with God really doing now with
demons what I usually want in terms of
what I know and what I know other people
that do work with them and there's no
judgement in that it's just where people
are at and and what you know where
they're at so but usually they want
candles sometimes blood as well human
blood your own blood
animal sacrifices absolutely but I will
tell you what angels want and this is
the most incredible thing they don't
actually anything except what they want
Derek is when they give you sets of
wisdom and knowledge and blessing they
want you to bless others with that
that's what that's all they want that's
how you honor God in the end can light
candles from you complain incense to him
and I do that um but in the process I'm
also thanking the Creator to be blessed
to actually speak to one of his angels
to be able to search and do this holy
work because Derek if I get out of line
if I trip and go back to all the ways
I'm no longer going to be effective with
my angelic work I just won't be it won't
be the same and that's why for me to
have a foundation in source and in God
and in the Holy Spirit and with
angels that leading me further to my
true destiny and you know and and I
don't know how to really put this - well
that's what life has been completely
transformed and and to your viewers out
there if you've been brave you know
getting into that all that just know are
the difference between black and white
people say that the same thing together
but I wish to disagree on that this from
our own experience and and and and if
you really want to get into it study the
ABBA tell because that's the tradition
that I mean um I had a friend and I
talked to you briefly about this I had a
friend who hit me up and they are into
some pretty deep esoteric stuff and it
was about working with demons and they
were showing like the the person who was
teaching this guy he said that his
teacher told him that Jesus worked with
demons and not just banished him and
dispelled them but Jesus worked with
them and particularly the demon Mammon
oh this scripture talks about you can't
serve God and Mammon and there was some
obscure scripture that he sent me and it
was pretty interesting but he was
talking about that he works with demons
because it's the easy way out his life
is too busy to help too hectic he's
working a job he only has so many hours
per day and it was too hard to walk that
straight and narrow path with Christ and
the Holy Spirit which he wants to but
he's just telling you straight up
there's no way I can do it the demand to
stay upon the narrow path is too hard
for me right now so I work with lesser
level entities that don't require these
some things that may seem hard you know
to keep contact of
yeah here's something that I do want to
mention there is when we talk about the
natural dispositions between angels and
demons demons they were aggressive and
very quickly because they're very close
to our world but they're not so accurate
I'll explain and what I mean the Angels
work in measured precision so they're
not gonna manifest something into your
life that's gonna hurt your family or
your friends and let's say that you do
have a goal to become a millionaire like
okay they will be like okay you want to
do that learn these skills learn how to
do this you know our work truthfully in
your art um but first this wean really
harming others now I think that I don't
know it but your friend
I guess he's really attached to the
results in his manifestations now as
things manifest for him wandah does it
come with issues does it come with any
problems that come with psychological is
looking from the demonic influence of is
he you know is his work just as much as
he could redeem what yes demons can get
things quicker but they're not so
accurate they do leave issues that's all
that I can really say on that yeah
mm-hmm yes it's crazy I could see what
he's talking about though cuz like
walking the straight and narrow can be
hard and it's easy to get all right I
mean it's not like we're often in God
forsake us or we're just doing negative
but this is this is my philosophy since
you know because of my astrological
blueprints and as a Lear sometimes I'll
say that is that even though I'm still
attracted to self-development in
personal empowerment I'll explain that I
am committed to one tradition no I don't
know what what tradition your friend
works in but if he's jumping from book
to book with different demonic work he
will get certain results but I will I
will say this
if you commit yourself to one magical
text and you master it you're gonna be
above everyone else that's just touch to
the little bit played around with it and
then left so what I'm getting back in
what that if you commit yourself to one
path path with the Angels past with
Christ path with being humble before God
and of us of love you can still attain
the goals that you want in your life and
and I think these are Jeremiah say that
you can achieve business goals you can
achieve relationship goals you can learn
the mysteries about astrology and
astronomy and medicine they will teach
you these secrets but all requires the
mind in a heart but if your friend knew
that he can achieve the things that he
wants to achieve but also regain his
sure I don't know a spiritual connecting
with the Most High in this narrow
alignment you know this can happen but
you know it is about personal decision
and it's also about self honesty and
that's a hard thing for all of us
you know like I'm sure that there's
there are times when we we have issues
with you know being self honest to me
like you know I could have done this
better or yeah I should have you know
what I mean it helps me now because like
I guess we kind of have a similar story
because I come from the negative
background first like when I got into it
I got into the demonic stuff like
contacting demons and getting I got
possessed man messing with those realms
and it I was straight up trying to
contact demons I was trying to contact
any spirit that would show up honestly
and I was doing all that was doing
different enchantments from different
books different meditations I didn't
care what it was I just wanted to see
something because I knew it was real
from having experiences with elementals
that someone I stole is I stole
something from a warlock and an
elemental came and got the item back and
showed up to kind of scare us you know
what I'm saying I physically seen that
representation of that that entity and
you would think that that would scare me
and keep me away but it built my
intrigue for it and I was like okay
these are these things are real okay
maybe
learn how to summon elements or to get
my belongings back or to go out there
and get my enemies you know what I'm
saying
but in the midst of that man I don't
know if I was doing it wrong or what I
definitely was but um I got possessed
and it's nog I almost died and I almost
went crazy I was gonna have to go to the
crazy house and all types of stuff right
so our stories are similar with dealing
with the demonic realms first and making
it out of that so now we're like walking
with in the light of Christ we're
dealing feel God almost kind of called
you back to that same realm but with the
knowledge and information about what not
to do okay don't do that whatever you do
so when I'm dealing with the prophetic
realms of hearing from God or a
contacting spirits or having these
fastings and prayers and even
psychedelic encounters or whatever I
only approach it if and you only hear me
talking about it if I'm walking on that
straight and narrow like really good
like I don't play with it at all just
because I know how real the other side
is with the demonic entities and
whatever you're entertaining whatever
level that you're vibrating at you're
gonna attract those spirits so if you're
just a negative person and you're like
me I was robbing people breaking in the
house is stealing all kinds of crazy
stuff and then I would try to do
witchcraft and contact demons and dude
they came you know what I'm saying so it
is it's nothing to play with let's say
that none of this has anything to play
with the Holy Spirit God Jesus even the
good stuff it's nothing to play with
there's serious repercussions when you
turn away from it the demons and Jesus
right and I it was a long hard road out
of that stuff man so it's definitely
nothing to play with but if it's calling
you if you if you're intrigued by these
things then definitely pursue it but do
it in the white light of Christ exactly
exactly and you know something that all
the TEL teaches is after you do your
angelic operations you're you pray to
the Holy Spirit for God to bless you in
what you just did in the ritual for God
to bless you
the wisdom that you're seeking and for
God to really give authority and
blessing upon this fruit which will work
between you and the angel so you know
you're you're 100% right and I also
think that with now you having this
strong root under chin in Christ in the
hallways you're not afraid to really you
know you will just talk a little bit
because you have that foundation you
have those protection barriers you know
how much you connect with Christ like
you know like you know this is highly
unlikely but if a demon did manifest in
your house you'd be like I'm like I'm
strong for this and cut like I know how
to defend my mind my heart yeah but
people coming from mostly coming in with
not internally cleansing themselves and
still having psychological that's where
it really hits you and I think that you
know magic will either break here or it
will make that is a truth I do find it
weird let me let me just interject this
okay
I guess it comes down for me just
because like I said obviously if a from
a child I was just intrigued by the
spirit world and I've kind of coin I
give my life to understand how it works
and how it operates in every aspect of
it the spirit realm and how it affects
our lives and how we affect it and how
we can be used to help us and and hurt
us as well right I'm just into that
that's where my heart is I think that's
a good thing I think God placed that
within me that to sing that out and
understand that and we can use it for
manifestation we can use it for the law
of attraction speaking when we're
talking about demons and in general and
the way the Bible refers to these
different demons as they call them
strongholds and they've been they've
come to live in your mind they want to
be vibrations and thought patterns and
things like that so it's no it's not so
far-fetched to say that these demons
want to take place in your mind I mean
the Bible talks so much about these
these thought patterns that come to live
there and these while share they are a
meme the other day about this term
called a Tulpa and it's a spirit that
exists off of a thought pattern in there
created these entities that are created
from your imagination and so but what
what I want to interject is this though
so we're into that to rule every aspect
of our life our job situation and help
us get a job where we're going what
about the people who are successful
within all these areas who don't deal
with those realms like what is it that
that leads eat you know I'm saying even
you to look into this stuff and have the
need to work with angels to get a good
job versus filling out a resume going
out there being the best you and doing
that like where's the connection there
because there's millions of people who
don't work with spirits and they're
successful and all that stuff already
you know Derek that's fantastic and
there are so many implications involved
one of the things with I'll just quickly
say this before I move into the next
thing as you said you know demons are
attracted to lower frequencies and
especially when people are unclean and
they have thoughts as well but people
need ask them that the question why do
we have to cleanse before speaking with
angels or fast or be abstinent because
we're aligning with their frequencies
and vibrations know what I'm to say
sorry Jerry what was the question again
I kind of got off-track Yeah right I
remember okay sir Derek when you come to
a crossroad in your life and you need a
strategy you need a solution you have to
somehow spiritually tap into that
solution right like you have to find the
answers now those successful people
Derek they're still receiving answers
internally whether they know it or not
yeah it still coming - um yep but I
think the question is is what are they
tapping insert okay now
yeah I mean and all the other things
myself they're not all are gonna be born
to beat magicians but it is the beauty
of creator of this creation is that you
can be a shaman you can be a Roman
Catholic as long as you're connecting
with the holy and you're not pushing
over others or just providers and
putting your authority over them and
allowing people to genuinely connect
that's where glorify God we don't need
to step on a real will feel it may
change but getting back to successful
people they tap into that power somehow
if you look at a lot of successful
people that speak on YouTube and their
motivational speeches yeah they have
been of that internally so from from
somewhere but it's coming coming common
in total well you're an astral world I
might not be aware of it but it could be
their ancestor is adding them to their
ancestors could have really good karma
in hey you know looking to the stock
market invest here people have those
types of drinks yep yep well brother um
coming up on the end of the hour I want
to thank you for coming on go ahead and
share out your links manner what you do
if somebody wants to work with you I
know you do private consultations and
things like that let people know how
they can get in contact with you okay
fantastic Derek and again thank you for
having me on your show and um it's been
amazing speaking about these things and
yeah truly man thank you I'm sir at the
moment I have a blog any truth that's it
in the future I will have courses out
there I will have private counseling and
the private consultations that I do
reader I can't deal with like hundreds
of people I just don't have energy to do
that many rituals for justice and like
do a removal on whatever but you can
find me at this.look versus on YouTube
and on my blog at blogspot.com a year
awesome bro I'll put all those links in
the description as well for people who
can contact you that way brother
thanks for coming on hanging out with me
man thanks for all the support over the
years - brother it means a lot man
thank you for all the work that you've
done and all the music that you've put
out there and the many hearts that it's
touched sir you know thank you for your
work our brother we'll do it again soon
brother I like to have you back on
awesome Derek thank you she is our blood
salam/peace all right
Nikolai Jones good brother yeah he's
been supporting for a very long time and
that's why I wanted to know like when we
get into the the angelic realms and in
dealing with spirits and things like
that
how much has my work influenced him for
the good or the bad because I get I get
accused of that all the time right
influencing people to get into those
realms and he got into some stuff and
and I guess he got in over his head I
did two very very similar story to mine
and dealing with those realms and things
but I always put the disclaimer out
there too though so be careful and I
don't I don't promote anything honestly
I share my story and if it's calling you
it's calling you when we're talking
about dealing with the psychedelic
experiences and encounters even though
it sounds fun right it is fun but I
don't I don't encourage people do it to
do it for fun but I will say if it calls
you it calls you and there's nothing
that you can do to stop it if it's
calling you you have to do it and so
dealing with whatever path you choose in
life that's between you and God and if
so if if you've been influenced by my
work I hope that it's in it's in a good
way because I don't promote dealing with
demons promote casting out demons and in
learning from demons as well but I
definitely don't promote contacting them
but but you learn from them you
definitely have to learn from them
because the whole thing about it is
getting getting your relationship right
with God with
with the Creator because you can get in
and you can get in over your head and
when you do that sometimes it's it's
hard to get out of it there's a lyric by
Marilyn Manson and it's just says I want
to live I want to love but it's a long
hard road out of hell and so once you
open up those doors to Pandora's box man
sometimes it's hard to close it when
we're talking about dealing with these
these entities dealing with with demons
talking about magic Solomonic magic at
that the story of solomon written of in
saw the testament of Solomon it talks
about how Solomon received this ring
from God that the Archangel Michael
brought a ring with a pentagram on it
and brought it to Solomon and it gave
him authority over all the demons and so
these demons would present themselves to
Solomon and he would ask them questions
he would take authority over them ask
them questions and they would tell which
planetary sphere that they were aligned
to that that that bound them and which
angel that they correlated with and
these angels that that bound them as
well and that's where we get the story
of bezel bub from this where we get this
story the stories of the Incubus and the
succubus spirits I mean we've heard
about them but we don't know where they
come from they come from the testament
of Solomon so Solomon dealing with these
these entities they were mad at him
right because he had authority over them
he was making them tell him their
secrets and he had a pact with with God
like he worship Yahweh and God had him
protected with the ring and but there
was an instance where his he was after a
woman and they wanted to be together and
in order to do that
to have this woman's hand in marriage
Solomon had to go through the ceremonies
and worship the gods of her father which
was Moloch which was a ended up becoming
an enemy of Yahweh and a God of the
other nations that kind of rebelled in
the divine counsel of the Elohim and so
our family worship Moloch and she tried
to get Solomon to do it and he wouldn't
do it he knew that God his hand would
would would leave his hand of protection
and all of these things would leave
whenever if he ever did that so he
wouldn't do it so she kept bothering him
they wanted to be together and he would
do it he would not serve another God he
would not serve Moloch he would not
sacrifice to other gods and so one night
there was some grasshoppers at his feet
and she looked at him and said look just
do this small sacrifice just step on
these grasshoppers and in sacrifice
these grasshoppers to Moloch and my
father will give me to you for marriage
he would he will give you my hand and he
said okay Solomon did it those
grasshoppers that were on the ground
Solomon stepped on them and he
sacrificed them unto Moloch and the
second that he did the Holy Spirit left
him the God's protection God's hand left
him in those same spirits that he had
authority over those same spirits that
he was binding and getting to know the
information in their secrets those
spirits came back to torment him
immediately they came back for vengeance
and his state was worse than it was
before and if we read in the book of
Ecclesiastes it talks about how Solomon
was just seeking out all of this stuff
and how he found that in the end it was
all vexation of spirit to know all of
this knowledge and to know all of this
information in the end it didn't get him
anywhere it was all vexation of spirit
you got to understand when you know
these things and nobody else does like
who do you talk to so it's awesome that
I have a podcast it's awesome that I
have a YouTube channel that we can go
live and discuss these things and we
kind of find the others right it's like
a beacon of light if you're into these
things we can we can sit now we can
dialogue we can talk about our
experiences and share what works right
and what doesn't work as well the good
experiences in the bad ones and so many
people want to know how these these
lines crossed how the other realm
pierced through I've reached into the
other realm and something reached back
like I've dealt with those entities and
they'd they do show up in physical
manifestation or they can but like I
said they want a place in your mind they
want a place to live and it's and it
ends up being possession don't deal with
demons I'm tell you that don't don't do
it I can't tell you to I I have to warn
you and I will say this too about about
the books and things like that I don't
really get into a lot of the books like
the grim wars and some of the books
about summoning demons or whatever and
there's a bunch of invocations and stuff
like that and in its they're to do I
have done them as far as contacting the
angels and the angelic realm some of
those but definitely not the demons and
things like that and they're different
magic and stuff like that magic is very
practical when we're talking about this
stuff it's like I'm saying ceremonial
magic spirits are like I said they're
there patterns in in their thought forms
that exist in your mind so they're not
that far away so with the thoughts that
you entertain you're entertaining angels
unaware and don't even know it
and they can come to give you vision
insight memories but I'm telling you
possession you do not want to be
possessed man you do not want to go
there
and so I think it's
X 19 X 19 19 it talks about how the
sorceress came and heard the preaching
of the Apostle Paul and it says that
they laid all of their curious books
down they had all these magical books
and they brought them all all the
witches and they came and they laid
their books down at Paul's feet and they
burned him and I think it says that the
Sun was over fifty fifty thousand
dollars worth in their in their monetary
system and they laid them down at the
feet of of Paul and burnt them one state
once they heard the gospel preached and
so there's a fine line there there's a
fine line when it comes to what are you
teaching true seeker what are you doing
are you promoting witchcraft are you
promoting are you enticing people to get
into the things that God saved you from
right I came out of that stuff and it
was it wasn't pretty man it definitely
it took me a long time and and those
demons are smart they don't play fair
they've been here a lot longer than we
have
they've been here for thousands of years
people die spirits don't die I've been
dealing with these same spirits and
Jesus talks about that when he's dealing
with the Pharisees and Sadducees and
he's like talking about how Moses dealt
with them and the people who came before
them like they all dealt with these same
type of spirits that are just there
through different people and we're
dealing with them - through the
religious system and through the
political systems as well these are
ancient spirits men spirits don't die
people do so when it comes to that it is
it is very practical and there's what
would ever you anything that you do in
the physical realm has spiritual
implications anything that anything that
you do and through Christ we talked
about mysticism and I get accused of
mysticism or occultism as it's a bad
thing from some of my Christian brothers
you're promoting mysticism and then my
response is what is mysticism what are
you talking about I thought I talked
with some brothers who are who are
Christians or or just who believe in
Jesus I don't think that they would even
call themselves Christian I don't I
don't even know if I call myself a
Christian or only thing I believe as far
as a Christian is is I have a I have
faith in Jesus in and in I have a
relationship with Jesus and God in the
Holy Spirit but other than that the the
dogma and all that something that goes
along with Christendom I I do not
identify with it so but dealing with
Christians and I've talked about this
before before is that they're very um
they they like to accuse you of things
and they accuse you of mysticism or
accuse you of occultism and you have to
break it down and find out what are they
talking about like we got a we got a you
got to be sure like what is missus ISM
what do you mean when you say that what
do you mean when you say that I'm into
occultism
when we go back to the the root words
and what these words mean I'm into it
you know I'm totally into occultism the
word occult means that which is hidden
and if I'm not mistaken the scriptures
say that that God will show you hidden
knowledge if you fellowship with him and
you pray and you see God the Holy Spirit
will reveal to you things he's never
shown anyone else that secret knowledge
ladies and gentlemen if the god of the
universe can deal with you and show you
things that he's never shown another
soul ever that's that's a cult Jesus
would break down his teachings into
parables and dark sayings that had
hidden knowledge in them and you could
only get them you can only get the
meaning if you broke it down and you
knew how to do that or if you was in his
his crew he would break it down for you
right he would tell you the meanings but
the masses would come and they would
they were here Jesus teach and hear him
and they would be with them when he
talked about all the good stuff where he
was feeding them feeding the 5,000 but
when he would break down knowledge to
him they said oh man that's we gone now
see you later and like the masses would
would quit following him when
he would try to share wisdom and
knowledge with them so it's the same
thing with us man whenever you're being
accused of being a witch or you're
accused of promoting this or promoting
that make these people break it down to
you make these people still tell you
what they mean I'll let them just put a
term on you a blanket statement true
secrets into witchcraft Oh everybody
what do you mean what does that mean I
give me an example what am i doing
that's that's what's crap and I'm and I
say that because I've been able to win
all of my brothers and sisters over
throughout the years who have heard
things or I'm in the Illuminati or I'm a
Mason or we're just all kind of weird
accusations or whatever but when they
come to me one-on-one I'm able to show
them I'm able to show them in the Bible
for the most part or about you know I'm
saying what I'm talking about what I
mean where these symbols come from where
these signs come from so you're able to
kind of win them over so don't don't let
anybody just put a blanket statement on
you and I've a best wisdom don't just
you know make them give you examples and
so you can actually defend yourself when
it comes to that your character but
dealing with the spirit realm dealing
with angels like I said at the beginning
I believe it gets into I believe that
you can't study the angelic realm even
in the Bible without eventually getting
into UFOs and aliens and that's what's
studying angels or demons the Christian
realm you're going to get into the Book
of Enoch most Christians believe that
what we call aliens or extra
interdimensional beams or
extraterrestrials they believe they're
demons that demons live out in outer
space on faraway planets or that they
come through and they act like they're
angels of lights or whatever the case is
there's that as well that's totally not
the case when it when it comes to the
demons there is a difference between
angels and demons in aliens that there
they are what they are and there there
are neutral spirits as well so
when it comes down to to breaking down
the angelic encounters it comes back to
UFOs when you can go outside and this is
just my story go outside in the night
sky having a relationship with God the
Creator asking him to show you the
eloheem that's what they're called in
the Bible de l'eau his race of angelic
beings the Seraphim the cherubim the
wrath I mean the Molokini all of these
angels had a mention of in the Bible and
you go out there and you spend enough
time under the night sky you begin to
see things man you begin to see things
moving um you got to be patient with it
but that that's where all this stuff
started for me it was a call to it I
just started having dreams and started
seeing all the types of things in my
dreams and it led to certain websites
the work of Patrick Cooke which had by
the Bible UFO comm which I'm trying to
back up a lot of that work because his
what he recently passed away and his
wife like deleted the website and stuff
which sucks and that site was chocked
full of information in the Bible and
historical accounts of UFOs and aliens
like back in like in the 1800s and like
the times of Jesus and early days man
crazy historic accounts of of these
different aerial phenomena going on and
how it relates to the Bible which is
really cool so I'm trying to back up a
lot of that stuff but led to his work
and then I started finding out these
watching these different videos of
people talking about summoning UFOs
summoning UFOs right so I got into that
so that was part of me going out and
under the night sky and trying to summon
a UFO and guess what it worked it worked
I would go out there and I would make
contact and see all types of stuff man
not just not just what you would think
would be a UFO is or an angel like I
would see all kinds of weird stuff out
there in the night sky stuff that would
be way outside the atmosphere and in
something right in front of me right
above the tree lines like
spirits that you can see through all
types of weird stuff man
so that right there those encounters and
note those experiences man I would have
them night after night I would go out at
like 4:00 in the morning the job that I
was working provided time for me to go
out at like rest areas and truck stops
at 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning and it's
funny because it makes sense in it you
go at these celebrities like Muhammad
Ali he says that he would get up and he
would go jogging at like 4:00 and 5:00
in the morning and he says that you
would be able to cease there's a quote
that says that you would be able to see
them playing look like they were playing
tag with the stars in the morning sky
and I've seen that many of you guys that
have seen that going outside staring at
the stars and they start moving or one
star will go and have tagged another
star and it'll go in a different
direction and they'll change positions
like I've seen that outside of the
atmosphere a star will be sitting still
you're sitting there looking and then
they flied and they stopped on a dime
and then they changed directions
what's up Nick Nick Peron what's up my
brother
hey quick quick question Nick are you
related to Marguerite Peron man I met
her a couple years ago and I had her on
my show a couple months ago awesome lady
I figured you you'd probably be related
to her
Nick Peron but yeah getting into that as
a lot of people were talking about the
Mojave Desert
he said he he said he is the place
definitely he said he because he said he
that was when I was having my
experiences in my encounters man I went
to the work of James Gilliland where
they were going out there and they were
they were making contact with with ETS
and in the night sky and stuff too they
would go outside and have all these
people who worked at the base of the
mountain stargazing and watching all of
these crazy things go on under the night
sky and and they would see stuff moving
around and stuff
stop on a dime and shine at them and
it's crazy man it gets into a lot of
crazy stuff brother it gets into like
telepathy communicating telepathically
they say that's how ETS and angels
communicate anyway but then when you
start seeing a craft and then it starts
sending you signals and messages it gets
into some deep stuff and it's not for
everybody but if if it's for you then I
encourage it I encourage you to go out
there and do that stuff and it's uh it
opens up a lot of doors it opens up a
lot of a lot of questions and just
stargazing under the night sky that
there's quotes by some of the ancient
philosophers who talked about just
simply stargazing made you smarter by
stargazing you were you would get down
loads of information about yourself and
about the cosmos and that things would
send you information man do you know
what I'm saying so when we talk about
seeing angels and praying to see angels
there's a story in the Bible where
Elijah is called Elijah and the young
man it talks about it so people are
asking can they talk to me and things
like that the phone lines are open if
you guys want to call in I do have the
phone lines open a number streaming
across the top and the bottom of the
platform so you guys can call in I'll be
on for just a few more minutes so Elijah
goes out he's with the young man and
they have some enemies that are coming
against them that are gonna try to
overthrow them things like that and the
guys fearing for his life so Elijah said
look if you knew what was going on there
would be no reason for you to be to be
afraid at all it would be there'd be no
reason to be scared and so Elijah put
his hands on him and he prayed for him
he prayed that he would see the angels
that are encamped around him and so
Elijah prayed for the young man for his
eyes of his understanding to be open and
when he opened his eyes he was able to
see would assess horses and chariots all
throughout the mountains everywhere
these are angelic armies or the the
heavenly host is another word for it and
he was able to see him through prayer he
was able to see in the spirit round what
what was actually watching over them and
protecting them so that's the same with
us going out there having these
experiences and in prayer under the
night sky having the eyes of your
understanding opened to see this stuff
when we talking about chariots horses
and chariots that's symbolic that's what
we get to term chariots of fire right it
says that as the Israelites were
following God through the desert they
were able to see a cloud by day and a
flame of fire by night and what does
that sound like what the UFOs looked
like at night they were like a flame of
fire and during the day there you see a
lot of crafts that are gray or silver
hazy at times so you got the cloud by
day and there's also what's known as
cloud ships as well cloud by day fire by
night and able to see that the word
chariot to kind of break that down is
where when you break it down into Hebrew
that's what you get the term Makabe
or the term Merkabah if you see that
painting behind me you guys are watching
on video and so it looks like the star
David's spinning
it's the Makabe and it's a chariot
Merkabah it means vehicle in the Hebrew
so the word chariot of fire just means
vehicle and obviously not obviously
because not everybody knows this but to
do prayer meditation the Egyptians
believe that they can align their
chakras and not leave their body but
turn their body into a vehicle of light
and to travel and this is probably where
Jesus was able to do Jesus and Peter I
believe it was was able to do by
location to be able to travel and people
have talked about being able to see
people as they're leaving their body and
in some of the the Hindu and Buddhist
monks have been able to
reportedly do this and turn in their
body into light that's what you get
rainbow body diamond body and these
different meditations that are able to
to do that you can leave your body but
then you turn your body into a vehicle
and travel as well and these are like
really advanced states of meditation I'm
gonna try to get back here in the
comments a little bit so Nick Perrin
says do you believe do you believe in
mediums or believe man and woman on
earth have that ability if you have time
to answer yeah I totally totally believe
I believe that many of us are born with
with this Sixth Sense and we're able to
pick up on things and and you don't even
have to be into this stuff to kind of
know about it you just we call it Bob's
you're at a party you go to a court room
whatever the case is you're somewhere
and someone looks at you and you just
pick up a bad vibe from that person you
pick up a bad vibe and and it's as easy
as that but it gets interesting because
when we're able to play play off of that
to bring healing to people or people who
are going through stuff that's when it
gets interesting where we can we feel in
our body what someone else is feeling
somebody gets sick we feel like we're
sick we're not really sick but we had
that sick feeling I remember it was
there was a story of a guy who I studied
under some of his work Steve Thompson
and he talked about like coming home
from work and what soon as he pulled in
this driveway he smelt this overwhelming
gagging smell of a vomit and it was just
so strong and nasty and then when he
goes inside he finds out that his whole
family sick with the flu but none of
them have have thrown up but that was
just a smell like you can you can smell
it it works with up with all of your
senses to be sensitive to the spirit
realm and what's going on I've been
around people who were sick in their
body or had pain in their back or pain
in their neck and then all of a sudden
you get that pain so you're just
randomly
live in life you go to somebody's house
or a meeting or something like that and
you get a crazy pain in your body out of
nowhere and you have to learn how to
respond to that stuff because if you
don't then you're just gonna think like
oh what'd I do to my neck and you'll
just leave and not even know about it be
like hold on that's that's weird I was I
felt perfectly fine five minutes ago and
now I got this excruciating pain in my
neck so I had that happen to me I had a
meeting and I and I stepped out in faith
first of all I prayed against it like
it's the devil trying to attack me or
something that's what most of us do we
start rebuking the devil if there's you
know asking God please heal me please
touch me take this pain away and it
doesn't go away so it's okay it's got to
be something so let me see if it's
anybody else that's here so that's what
I did I just asked is anybody here
having neck pain and a young man stood
up and said that he had just been to the
doctor that day for pain in his neck not
being able to move his neck so whenever
you you whenever you feel that it's not
just about oh cool I felt it so we move
forward and the giftings and abilities
of the Holy Spirit and say okay I
believe God wants to heal you can we
pray for you and then you have the
giftings and abilities of laying on of
hands or with some other cultures called
Reiki or the gift of healing so we
prayed for him put our hand on his neck
and prayed and commanded that spirit of
infirmity to leave and spoke peace and
healing and he felt better instantly I
was in another meeting at a church
meeting and we were listening to they
were playing the worship music and I
went death in my right ear while we were
listening to the music praying singing I
couldn't hear anything in my right ear
and so the Saint same protocol start
start rebuking it god I ask you to heal
my ear what's going on with my ear and
you think it's you it's like man what
the heck is going on but then through
practical experiences you're like you
know what
let me let me let me uh let me just
speak this out it worked the last time
let's see if it works again and I did
but I was able to it was you know I'm
saying luckily it was a church while I
knew the pastor he let me go I told the
pastor what was going on he let me go up
on the platform and use the microphone
and call it out and sure enough there
was an old man who was death in his
right right ear and uh I seen buddy come
come forth that they were they weren't
able to hear out there right here he
came forth we prayed for him asked him
if it was better he said us a little bit
better we continued to pray again said
no we want a hundred percent healing put
my hand on his ear command to his ear
his ear popped open he was able to hear
and all of a sudden I was able to hear
out of my ear as well so that's how it
works we have we're able to feel the
scripture says that we are moved by
their infirmities Jesus could feel this
stuff going on in his body Jesus would
go up to a crowd of people he knew they
were trying to kill him a random crowd
of people he didn't know them but he
always all of a sudden would he
understood that hey these people are
about to try to kill me I got to get up
out of here so Zach says so you saying
you're a medium I'm saying I believe
we're all mediums I believe that we're
all influenced by spirits and we're all
able to sense them it's called the gift
of discernment other people are better
at recognizing and other people are
moved and they pursue it a little bit
more so they find out how to use it but
I believe this is a I believe these are
just tools that we all have access to
but you can you can focus on how to how
to here you can focus on how to use
these abilities these these muscles that
we have if you want to call them that
and the more you use it the more you get
in tune with it the more you're able to
recognize it and greater things happen
you're able to hear the voice of God
you're able to hear the voice of the
Holy Spirit so it's far but I don't go I
don't go around promoting myself like as
a title as a psychic medium anything but
I have friends who are so nick says true
seeker answered it great helps being
more aware knowing one can be things
yeah brother I know
no you know what's up man I know you've
you've seen some dark stuff in your life
too brother and you you can recognize it
once you dealt with certain type in it
it's also what we call personas as well
so people who have the same persona and
they remind you of other people like man
I know so you know how these type of
people operate right you started to
learn ok I've dealt with people like
this I got to watch this guy I can't
leave my wallet on the counter around
him I don't know him but just from his
persona the way he's acting all of this
stuff comes into play I can't leave my
wallet on the counter cuz if I turn my
back he's gonna he's gonna try to take
it or I can't you can pick up on stuff I
can't leave my wife around this guy cuz
I know he's gonna try to hit on her
uh-uh that's the persona that these
people you don't have to have any proof
of this stuff but you have to be careful
because it also comes with a sense of
paranoia oh you're just paranoid you
don't trust anybody or whatever the case
is so you got to be able to balance it
and make sure that you're not freaking
out over it and that's the thing people
do get into paranoid people do get into
schizophrenia because they are
influenced by the spirit realm they're
influenced by the things that are going
on around them and they don't know how
to they don't know how to deal with it
so just saying if you're a kid and this
is happening to kids you're a kid you
come into a room and you're able to
sense spirits on people and to you it's
just in your imagination and I'll tell
you the first time for me when I was
getting into all this stuff and it just
began to happen a lot more in my life
and I had no idea what it was and Nick
can probably bear witness with this I
went to because he knows my brother I
went to visit my brother in prison I
went to visit my brother and when I went
there where I'm having a meeting with my
brother but every person that I looked
at who was in this mess hall meeting
with their families I knew why they were
in jail like I would look at somebody
said he molested his daughter he
molested or maybe not the reason that
they were in jail but I knew like dirt
on all these people and it was freaking
me out and I was like I
I was just a judge in these people and
I'm trying I'm like talking to myself
man good what are you doing like I'm
trying to have a meeting with my brother
and I'm I know all of this stuff about
these people and it was hard to focus so
you got to be able to like that stuff
can drive you crazy you go to what and
so they say it's a joke now and it's
coming out more and more they don't call
it prophetic anymore they you know when
it's just like a universal term they say
you're very empathic I'm an empath is
that is the new term for it and there's
jokes they say they say you know I'm
saying empaths don't go to Walmart we
can't go out
because they're able to pick up on
everybody's energy so this is a
universal thing and it's it's it's
become a more in the mainstream people
are recognizing I'm an empath I'm able
to pick up on other people's emotions it
gets in the schizophrenia man you have
to learn how to balance the energy
because if you're having a conversation
with a random stranger and you know what
they're thinking
during the conversation that stuff's
overwhelming that stuff is overwhelming
you got to be able to know when to tune
into it if you're supposed to approach
it when to turn it off or turn it on it
can be overwhelming and so a lot of
times people do turn to drugs and
alcohol at to suppress these feelings
and emotions but it's a god-given
feeling you were born with it but
nobody's ever showed you how to access
it nobody's that bit been able to show
you how to deal with the information and
in it it shows results if it was just
there and it was all in your imagination
then it would just be your imagination
but we got to understand the way God
works is he works with our imagination
and so that's the thing we have to get
over we think it's our mind is playing
tricks on us and we call it that my
mind's just playing tricks on me right
but that's how it works it works in your
mind's eye you'll start seeing scenarios
in your head that that that you're
familiar with and I remember and I told
this story many times and this was early
on man died probably I was like 17 17 18
when this happened but me and it was
after a church service me my wife and a
friend we went to
we went to Walmart we had to pick up a
few groceries but when we left whenever
we left well we picked up the group
we're getting the groceries and but when
we were gonna leave where we're gonna go
to Sonic and get something to eat and we
only had enough money to all get
cheeseburgers and get a meal or whatever
so to get what we're gonna get at the
store and get the meal so we're in line
about to checkout and and I felt that
voice that impression which is the voice
of the Holy Spirit right and it says pay
for that lady's groceries in front of
you and this is what the impression that
I got and I'm like I only have enough
money to to buy my uh my meal that we're
going out to eat and I'm not gonna
that's all the money I have an
impression was like use that money to
pay for her stuff and I felt like it was
the voice of the Holy Spirit like I knew
it was a legit thing and uh and I'm
sitting there rationalizing in my head
with that voice no no no I know this is
I haven't ate I didn't eat you know I
all I had was lunch I'm not gonna have
money for dinner if I do that and a
voice was persistent pay for that lady's
groceries and I'm making up all these
excuses in my head why I shouldn't do it
okay well the lady goes she they ring
her up she goes to checkout they tell
her how much it is and if she only had
just like she had bananas and like three
or four canned goods which was probably
only like four dollars worth of stuff
and that voice was telling me to pay for
four dollars man and uh it's a it's kind
of emotional but I rationalized with
that voice and I didn't and she had to
pay for her food and uh she didn't have
enough money and I stood I sat there
it's emotional man i sat there and uh
and watched her put some of those canned
goods back
and I didn't say nothing and uh so she
she had to put like two candy so she
only got like bananas and two canned
goods or whatever they put some of it
back because she couldn't afford it and
then she walks off and we pay for our
food and we go to walk off and I feel
this really strong guilt in my spirit
because we always ask God to use us
right we always ask him to use us and uh
we wonder if we want to be used in great
and mighty ways but he says if you're
not faithful with the small things I'm
not gonna trust you with big things if
you're not gonna be faithful with paying
for this lady's four dollars worth of
groceries and in a supernatural
encounter just to show my love to her
then how could how am I gonna trust you
for big miracles in in places and stuff
so I felt this really big guilt man and
it's what they call in the Bible um
grieving the Holy Spirit you grieve the
Holy Spirit and I never I said something
to my wife when we love us a man I feel
like I should have paid for that woman's
stuff and my wife's like yeah I felt
like that too but we didn't and so just
big grief like I failed God I let God
down I let that lady down you know
because y'all we're always asking to be
used and so it's a learning experience
right so next time you hear that voice
next time you have that feeling to do
something guess what you better do it
you better do it because you don't want
to you don't want to feel that way
anymore you don't want to grieve the
Holy Spirit and it's a learning curve I
don't we didn't have like people to sit
down and teach us about this stuff this
is straight learning through the Holy
Spirit one of the names of the of the
the Holy Spirit that goes by is is the
teacher it will lead you and teach you
and guide you into all truth so it's a
spiritual connection with God that
teaches you through life through
scenario through situation through
people through the television you use
everything in your life through your
imagination to teach you things that
nobody else has taught you and so that's
great I'm glad he does that but there
should be people in place like myself
and I'm just
Sharon I'm just sharing cuz many of you
guys are resonating with those stories
and you're like man I feel that or when
you get into that situation or you get
into the marketplace or you're out to
eat with your spouse or something and
you feel like you should pay for
somebody's dinner and you don't know why
you won't argue with that voice you know
what I'm saying you just go ahead and do
it and see the fruit of it and and and
you won't pass up a blessing and so I've
had other times like that that have
happened of little things to do and it's
been a bunch of little things little
things little things and then eventually
they get bigger and bigger and in the
scriptures is true when God says if I
can trust you with the few I'll make you
ruler over more he'll send bigger things
your way he'll trust you with more
there's no way I can trust you with a
platform right now you're still bitter
you're still heartbroken you're still
angry at church people there's no way I
can give you a platform excuse my
language but you'll [Â __Â ] it up I can't
why would I give you authority and power
right now you'll mess it up because
you're bitter you don't have healing you
don't you don't know how to respond and
so that's that that's did the process
man and we talked about trusting the
process that's the process you have to
trust it that he'll complete that work
in you in which he started that's that's
who God is man faithful and just to
finish the work which he started and
some of us have had had to had to go
down hard roads man and hard lessons
learned but you know what I learned to
never do this stuff again you know I'm
saying some of the things I messed up at
and in life and then when it comes to
learning from my mistakes that's one of
the greatest lessons but then it comes
to learning from other people's mistakes
as well I'll go back to my brother he
was I looked up to my brother coming up
but he got into some things that uh that
wasn't good for him right and I was able
to see him and see what it did to him
and I learnt from it okay don't do that
that's not working the subtle stuff
works it's working out good for him but
that stuff what he's doing don't mess
with that and I've been able to just
learn from
from from other people's situations man
you're able to save yourself a lot of
heartache and that's why I go love and I
talk about this stuff in the open
because maybe it'll it'll save you some
heartache and so when with discipleship
and passing down mantels and our spirit
and what we've been through and what
we've learned you guys have a heads up
because I'm giving you what we call
giving you the game I'm letting you know
how it works we didn't have that I mean
we had people who were watching over us
and they would share things with us and
it worked they're like the people who
discipled us we got a lot of it it works
faster Slyke the cycles worked faster so
that the stuff that they taught us I
didn't have to go through it personally
to get the revelation and find out how
it works because they would teach us
they would say hey this happened don't
do this do that
when this happens do this and then so I
didn't have to actually take those tests
I was able to kind of get the knowledge
get the information apply it and it
works so that I can be trusted with more
so I can take the torts that they left
me and be a lot more further down the
road nick says discipleship is so
powerful iron sharpens iron yep and
that's legit too like the iron is rough
it's you know it's rough around the
edges the iron hitting the iron you get
these two rusty uh or jagged knives man
machetes and you sitting there rubbing
them back and forth and eventually they
both become sharp as a razor blade and
that's how we're supposed to be man iron
sharpens iron and it's it's a that's
part of the process so with that I'm
gonna go ahead and jump off of here man
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that's that's another one that just I'm
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I've been funny like I have some crazy
memories of you man and and I'll tell
you this that I'm into corn right now
right now like I was a huge corn corn
fan growing up because of you you let me
borrow your corn CD I came down to visit
my
in Louisiana and you let me borrow the
corn album and I went home and man I
just fell in love with corn and
everything that they were doing it that
that early stages man so yep
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